📨・meta-help

[carmine reef]

Well 4guin cuz

[tame holly]

LOL

[carmine reef]

If your ish isnt at least sig harmo its not good enough to be replacing empy even

[dawn cloak]

Does we know if fire vera can activate 4 guin in one qte proc btw?

[stiff burrow]

when the perma banner selector resets, what units are highest priority

[still moat]

think they made all future amps can proc 4 guin

[dawn cloak]

Ah right.

[still moat]

since feral ?

[carmine reef]

Ish couldn't in beta v1

[valid reef]

Got this from the new player thing what should i pick?

[still moat]

thats crazy

[tame holly]

It resets?

[dawn cloak]

You can also save that also
For future investments
As it keeps getting updated

[unborn hound]

tonitrus

[dawn cloak]

Tonitrus the 6* bow

[unborn hound]

the bow

[tame holly]

Tonitrus not on there

[karmic anvil]

[valid reef]

Thanks!

[shadow atlas]

who uses that?

[unborn hound]

alisa

[tame holly]

Bianca and alisa

[dawn cloak]

Refresh more correctly
It doesnt stack btw

[dawn cloak]

For Alisa Echo

[karmic anvil]

Damn another troll

[tame holly]

I think right?

Is it not?

[dawn cloak]

Its there, he just needs to scroll sideways

[tame holly]

Doesnt bianca use a bow

[karmic anvil]

[still moat]

its bianca's sign yes

[tame holly]

Isnt tonitrus a 6 star bow?

[unborn hound]

yes next patch

[dawn cloak]

Yea but no one sane is using her anymore

[tame holly]

I mean I’m new so Im just tryna get 3 teams for stronghold bro

[carmine reef]

That's a 6* wep selector

[tame holly]

Oh mb, the red and orange look similar to me

[dawn cloak]

We focus on warzone and ppc
And norman, then stronghold will be cleared easily too

[unborn hound]

depends on what character you have

[tame holly]

And font is too small haha

[stiff burrow]

i have all the latest ss

pyroath and hanying were brought up before

[tame holly]

Does pity get saved when the perma banner refreshes?

[carmine reef]

It's all g I'm colorblind anyway i just learned from context and naming

[still moat]

can get pyroath ss3 right away

[kindred forge]

Hey who should i pick up from the selector? i thought about Bianca lightning to make a starting lightning team

[carmine reef]

Pity carries over

[tame holly]

Woohooo Im not gonna get fked overr 🎉

[unborn hound]

pyroath is the highest priority ss3

[tame holly]

Im at like 30 pity rn on the perma banner

[unborn hound]

rigor

[stiff burrow]

how much of a difference is it really

[tame holly]

Isnt rigor the best pick atm

[kindred forge]

I have heard so yeah

[tame holly]

From that selector

[unborn hound]

the lightning team is just nanami startrail im not kidding

[tame holly]

Cause I heard rigor and laurel get thrown around

[still moat]

pyroath ss3 is mostly for ion

[tame holly]

I mean, Fulgor is pretty funny

[still moat]

ss3 is a good upgrade too for fire but i think ion utilizes the qol more

[kindred forge]

Alrighty, Rigor it is then

[tame holly]

My only SSS+ character

[barren plank]

Luna Laurel is the best long term transitionary option
Rosetta Rigor is also an option if u dont have Solacetune, but she's more short term

[kindred forge]

Should i pick up her 6* sig from the beginner weapon selector as well?

[tame holly]

Tonitrus (the bow)

[dawn cloak]

No dont
Shes really cope, will get replaced asap

[tame holly]

You can get her 5star weapon from any of the weapon selectors for it

Thats what I did at least

But idk what Im doing LOL

[still moat]

u are better off doing off ele than using laurel tbh, esp with no sign

and lilith is close too

[glad depot]

which A rank from the blue banner is worth pulling?

[barren plank]

Get Tonitrus bow, it'll be very important for u later on

[carmine reef]

Tbh it's not like Laurel is a better long term pick than Rigor, given that Lilith and Jetavie are both stronger and coming soon

[tame holly]

For Alisa, correct?

[dawn cloak]

Laurel long term kinda wild
Considering Lilith is soon
Or Lilith + Laurel subdps you mean?

[still moat]

dont do that

[barren plank]

Yea Laurel subdps
Tho Jetavie coming is also a good point

[dawn cloak]

Does Lilith Solo not give better score or something?

[still moat]

lilith + wanshi + luna ob is already a good dark team

[barren plank]

Lilith is way too orb hungry to effectively solo even at SSS

[still moat]

no she dual swap with off ele tank

actual dark team is too expensive

[dawn cloak]

Hmmm tho ult ppc might be a problem in the future for dark with that team

[tame holly]

Idk how teams work

[still moat]

ppc lilith surely can solo with qte bot like 21

[tame holly]

Isnt wanshi ice, why does he work well on dark teams? (This is a genuine question haha)

Im clueless about the team building in this game

[kindred forge]

Aight, Tonitrus it is then, thanks for help 🙏

[still moat]

luna oblivion converts wanshi's elemental shred

so lilith can utilize it

[carmine reef]

Zaza strat using luna class passive

[tame holly]

Ohhhhhhhhhhh

[dawn cloak]

Teddy 1 copy, then the rests goes to XXI
Can also get 2 bridget copy inbetween if you want, for fresh newbie

[tame holly]

I forgoet that thats how Luna Ob works

[dawn cloak]

Yep, and lock the sig
Dont scrap or feed it to other sig
Its a treasure

[still moat]

daren is really bad below ss3

[karmic anvil]

[glad depot]

how about the S one? i think a lot of people recoomend qu: shukra???

[still moat]

and wanshi is free so its an option

[carmine reef]

But tbh even though i agree not to get laurel, i really doubt the luna zaza is better for a newbie with broke invest compared to a swap team with s+ teddy or jetavie

[dawn cloak]

Oh so not too big of a problem in uppc you mean

[unborn hound]

@shadow atlas the guide missions give like 3000exp make sure to do them if u want to level up quickly

[dawn cloak]

No no
Its Oblivion or Solacetune

[still moat]

can make an argument for ss0 wanshi

but for the more invested player with sss0 wanshi its not even close

[unborn hound]

did somebody just say qu shukra?

[carmine reef]

The kinds of people we're giving this advice to have s 5* chars bro

Or 4*

[still moat]

im that kind of people though

[tame holly]

How important is getting SS characters as someone who is new to the game

[karmic anvil]

[still moat]

i literally have no usable dark team

[glad depot]

is there any explanation i can get for both of them to help me choose?

[carmine reef]

Important but ss is free from ppc rewards

[visual topaz]

baseline F2P invest

[glad depot]

haha is she that bad?

[dawn cloak]

Very important
Also its free from pain cage skulls

[unborn hound]

without sig yeah

[karmic anvil]

Actually, how bad?
Wz score comparison

[unborn hound]

1sec

[carmine reef]

I'm saying maxed out A ranks (free from sync missions and achievable very quickly) should be better than swapping with an off ele S 4* tank

[karmic anvil]

Wtf

[dawn wharf]

Is Decryptor decent or is Yandere a better healer?

[tame holly]

How does PPC work btw. I did every difficulty of the 2 bosses I have unlocked

[shadow atlas]

yeah I ended up picking some of the worst ones, which is why I haven’t done them yet

[tame holly]

Does it reset or do I need to proceed with the story

[dawn wharf]

U get points to trade

[karmic anvil]

Decyrptor better

[carmine reef]

It's a weekly reset

[unborn hound]

yeah i noticed i tried to change them before u picked but u were faster than me

[carmine reef]

Resets like tomorrow

[spiral merlin]

[glad depot]

how about these? which to choose? I'm a returning player and all of these seems so foreign

[ruby minnow]

anotther legend retain in a row?

[spiral merlin]

potentially

[tame holly]

Got it. And do I have to progress story to get more bosses from Pain cage?

[carmine reef]

No

[tame holly]

Oh

[carmine reef]

You need to level up

[still moat]

does cn like the wedding skin that much

[carmine reef]

To unlock adv

[tame holly]

Damn 😔

[carmine reef]

And then to unlock ult you need to get a minimum score in adv

[spiral merlin]

apparently so

[unborn hound]

i lost the video damnit

[tame holly]

What lvl do I need to be?

[carmine reef]

Unless they changed that

[still moat]

im still considering to buy the current skin cause if i convert 168 rc to bc via monthly its pretty much similar amount

[carmine reef]

Not sure, lv 80?

[tame holly]

Im only getting close to lvl 70 mannn

[still moat]

but i do have a chance to get the skin early and bunch of other stuff so its not exactly 17.5K

[tame holly]

I gotta speedrun

[carmine reef]

Well its sync so you'll get there really fast

[karmic anvil]

What a pain
The active helper couldn't help my poor soul

[tame holly]

Yippeeeee

[carmine reef]

Active helper? Whats that

[tame holly]

What should I do to lvl up fast aside from dailies and weeklies

[carmine reef]

Never heard of it

Wait kirai is here abort abort

[dawn cloak]

This should be good as summary of the arguments
#📨・meta-help message

Follow this if you pick Solacetune
#📨・meta-help message
Solacetune is needed to complete physical team when Selena arrives

[ruby minnow]

i guess you can pick rosetta, all of these are outdated char by now

wtf

lemme read what randall linked

[cold walrus]

canon wife

[hexed hawk]

Hello, how can I select to go to Hero in the next warzone?

[carmine reef]

Yes read it and check for misinfo my active helper king

[visual topaz]

wdym select

yeah no

avoid that

[still moat]

[karmic anvil]

solo piano works?

[ruby minnow]

one links to aether and other to treepy

[still moat]

never heard people mention selena solo

[hexed hawk]

Like choose to go to Hero the next warzone

[dawn cloak]

Ideally you get to lv80 before week changes
Wont change to adv ppc if you leveled up midweek

[still moat]

so i assume it doesnt exist

[visual topaz]

you don't?

[carmine reef]

Oh the convo from earlier today then

[ruby minnow]

yea

[hexed hawk]

Oh damn, ideally I don't want to stay in legend but is there no way?

[tame holly]

Ill try. What ways are there to lvl up fast aside from weeklies and dailies?

[visual topaz]

Either you promote to Hero either you retain from Hero or you demote from legend

[hazy cypress]

@stray siren you aare the best lmfao

[dawn cloak]

Mentor student mission
And just consuming serum

[karmic anvil]

Surely you can make it exist Mr chef

[visual topaz]

Legend is

[tame holly]

Got it

[hexed hawk]

My bracket got very low scores so it was super easy to be 2nd, but like I don't want this XD

[unborn hound]

if unlocked coop you can do that mission at least

[dawn cloak]

Nonono
Asks Kuraisan0 for that
If he gives up then it doesnt exist

[tame holly]

I did all my student missions

[dawn wharf]

Best way to consume serum is on the simulation battles

[still moat]

are u just humble bragging

[visual topaz]

then good for you, getting highest tier rewards

[still moat]

why would u not want more rewards

[hexed hawk]

It's more rewards, but I feel like the enemies are too tanky

[visual topaz]

that's the point of war zone

[still moat]

they are tankier yea

[karmic anvil]

I'm not sigless anymore

[tame holly]

Dw. Ive been using it religiously to build my characters with the 6star memory exchange currency

[hexed hawk]

And score is easier to get in Hero, so I can stay there more consistently

[visual topaz]

you mean legend

[still moat]

well thats false

[visual topaz]

hero score are much lower

[still moat]

they are tankier but u get more scores

[carmine reef]

Strong teams get higher scores in legend

You only get lower in legend if you have a really weak team that can't wave progress at all

[hexed hawk]

Likely cuz my weaker teams do better against the squisher enemies, like my lightning gets 4m in hero but only 2.7m in legend

[carmine reef]

Nahh

[still moat]

thats weird

[carmine reef]

Any team with baseline meta invest should be scoring higher in leg

[still moat]

if u have a functional lightning team, even if u swap with ss0 CW its not gonna be that low

[unborn hound]

im still on team oblivion first

[dawn cloak]

You can delete the bad mission now, and can pick again immediately

[carmine reef]

I only get lower score in leg with dark but I'm lamia solo

[tame holly]

Who is CW?

[carmine reef]

Every other team gets higher in leg, even phys

[karmic anvil]

Isn't hanying more important for ppc?

[unborn hound]

no?

[carmine reef]

Hanying sucks in ppc ngl

[glad depot]

is it because the other one is too far ahead to be useful?

[hexed hawk]

Basically skill issue is what you're telling me

[still moat]

i didnt say that

[karmic anvil]

Uhhh how am I gonna deal with skych in ppc as newbie then? Balter, rose?

[unborn hound]

yes and oblivion can work with any elemental tank and amp + the norman 20% buff + zaza strategies

[carmine reef]

Well 4m in hero to 2.7m in legend is way too drastic. Thats not normal at all

[dawn cloak]

Zexous and Azriel is the veterans here
Better ask their opinion

[still moat]

if u are newbie shouldnt u be in advanced

[ruby minnow]

gtfo of exppc

[dawn cloak]

We are just pleb newbie

[karmic anvil]

[still moat]

i was in advanced a week ago

im a newbie

[tame holly]

Ohhhh

[dawn cloak]

Acct
Not the player

[unborn hound]

balter and alisa go brrr

[carmine reef]

Ofc you need hanying for skych but that's like the only boss you need for her tbh

[unborn hound]

but you are cooked prob

[karmic anvil]

But you don't need loona for any boss

[ruby minnow]

oblivion now and hanying next patch is pretty valid tbf, oblivion is very cope team friendly, also means u dont have to cope w alisaless hanying first

[carmine reef]

Even fu shen can be off ele, and she's really bad against neutral bosses

[still moat]

yea at the end of the day u can pick both from the standard banner

it doesnt matter which is which tbh the reset is close

[carmine reef]

But luna is better for neutral ppc

[karmic anvil]

I see

[stray siren]

[still moat]

wat

[hazy cypress]

thanks for that post on misinfo

https://tenor.com/view/wuthering-waves-phoebe-thinking-interesting-gif-2378383855298051985

[stray siren]

Ohhh

[still moat]

[hazy cypress]

you did what i wanted to do

[carmine reef]

Wait i wanna see this post

[hazy cypress]

its in bot server

zex

[carmine reef]

How far i gotta scroll

[ruby minnow]

2 cm

[karmic anvil]

[hazy cypress]

recent

i just shared it

[carmine reef]

I didn't ask for ur size

[ruby minnow]

i wanted to share anyway

[karmic anvil]

[ruby minnow]

[carmine reef]

[hazy cypress]

if your's also an iceberg

i heard they can increase your size by 2-3 inches by doing an operation

[karmic anvil]

[hazy cypress]

[ruby minnow]

[stray siren]

[unborn hound]

[carmine reef]

I never found this cool post yall referring to

[hazy cypress]

bruh

[carmine reef]

Unless its just shading snazz

[hazy cypress]

go dms

[karmic anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/hu-tao-pranked-genshin-impact-gif-21700830

[dawn cloak]

@glad depot that and scroll down abit

[stark field]

Will be going on ahead, nothing personal comrades

[unborn hound]

what are these baby ass brackets why dont i get these

[still moat]

thats leader

they are all baby brackets

[unborn hound]

im in leader

[karmic anvil]

So many whels in gph

[still moat]

[unborn hound]

my brackets has top 100s dudes

[stark field]

Idk kek

[shy shore]

Leader is considered Whel these days

[karmic anvil]

Yeah

[carmine reef]

by who

[karmic anvil]

I can't get out of vanguard

[shy shore]

Leader is very whel

[unborn hound]

stay there

[shy shore]

can't imagine legend

[unborn hound]

average eu bracket be like

[stark field]

Sirs, I'm not a whale it seems

[karmic anvil]

Top 5%🐳

[shy shore]

Fellow EU player

We suffer togther in the Wheel server

[unborn hound]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[stark field]

Huh, I'm on EU as well

Maybe I got lucky

[karmic anvil]

Dead bricked server

[stark field]

lmao

[still moat]

thats 1 zone score tbh, its baby

[unborn hound]

real

im cooked next week in hero

[shy shore]

At least PPC rankings doesn't matter anymore for me

Just get the scores and you are Gucci

[unborn hound]

ppc rankings never mattered

[shy shore]

it did tho, to an extent, higher ranking more skulls

[unborn hound]

back in the day but now it doesn't

[karmic anvil]

[shy shore]

That is what I meant with "anymore"

[unborn hound]

unless ib maybe?

[carmine reef]

ib skulls basically don't matter

[shy shore]

I don't think I will be concerning myself with IB anytime soon

[carmine reef]

you need top 30% for there to be any change at all in the skull reward, and it's only +1 skull at base, and someone getting top 30% does not need the skulls lmao

[karmic anvil]

K whel

[carmine reef]

i'm a bottom 70% ib

[fluid imp]

Guys will pgr get new features to the gameplay or menu in upcoming patches right?

[hazy cypress]

well ye, ib skulls aint gonna do shyte

[still moat]

i do

[karmic anvil]

because you wouldn't care whel

[hazy cypress]

bruv i am more f2p than you

but 12 skulls dont basically change anything

[still moat]

how am i supposed to ss these characters bruv 💔

[fluid imp]

Don't SS CW

[still moat]

why

[hazy cypress]

you dont

[fluid imp]

She's no longer useful

[cold walrus]

ib is fine this week

[carmine reef]

it's not about the 12 skulls, it's about the difference in skulls based on the ib ranking

[still moat]

does she

[karmic anvil]

Umbra:

[cold walrus]

darkflow

[fluid imp]

Ah

[carmine reef]

all the investment and effort to go from just getting into ib, to getting top 30%, is literally +1 skull

the majority of the reward from ib is just being there at all

so it really is safe to say ranking doesn't really matter

[karmic anvil]

Wait 12 skulls is rewards after synchro or it's 36 now?

[carmine reef]

12 is base

but that's max reward

[karmic anvil]

It didn't change?

[carmine reef]

it did

it's multiplied for sync but nobody here is getting that 36

cause that's the max reward

[karmic anvil]

I see

[cold walrus]

sometimes ib is fun in terms of optimization

[carmine reef]

unless ew is here

30-100% is 6 skulls at base, top 10-30% is 7 skulls at base

[fluid imp]

Wait

Is CW and Feral gonna be free in next patch?

[carmine reef]

yes

[fluid imp]

My CW is already SS3 at this point 💀

[carmine reef]

grats

[fluid imp]

And I dont have Feral xd

[karmic anvil]

And since even you can't reach 30%... Yeah cant

[carmine reef]

i reached 30% like once week and barely

[dawn cloak]

So just another 30 piece from voucher and shes SSS

[still moat]

me when i lie

[carmine reef]

most weeks i am not reaching 30%

[shy shore]

My light team will be 10% better with Feral

[still moat]

this is not fine

[fluid imp]

Same goes for my Nanaknight and CW

[karmic anvil]

You don't bother to or you can't?

[shy shore]

With each passing day my teams are a little bit less cope

[carmine reef]

well both

why bother if it's not possible

[cold walrus]

i hoped to reach 10% this week. alas, cradle+lilith are too tanky for average players

[carmine reef]

ofc i won't have that attitude from the beginning

[karmic anvil]

Expected

[carmine reef]

i'll try seriously first, but if by then i see that it's not possible

then i'll stop trying ofc

[slender aurora]

And even if you could thats too much work for an extra 1 skull

[shy shore]

my CW is like, S no sig, Archlight is better in the team than her for me

[still moat]

yeah this -beach need to die

[slender aurora]

I always just pop one stage and call it a day for ib

[still moat]

im gonna use lilith to kill lilith

[unborn hound]

when your goat is washed💔

[stiff elm]

nanami is atk/signature right?

[cold walrus]

is that s***de propaganda in our 12+ game chat?

[carmine reef]

i think i'm gonna run some 4sam zaza

[karmic anvil]

[still moat]

wym zaza

[shy shore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1164129466218451016.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=ggnoddershyper

[stiff elm]

damn, so close.

was having good rolls too, oh well

[cold walrus]

bro wrong memories

nanami uses herschel, not heraclite

[stiff elm]

fu-

global can't read

[shy shore]

[stiff elm]

oh my lo-

ima go kms

[still moat]

[stark dove]

first time doing iron maiden phantom to get harmony materials. is she supposed to be hard because she keeps grabbing and one shotting me. maybe its me. i beat her after a few tries, but it was sweaty

[stiff elm]

at least I didn't HT it

[karmic anvil]

Shadow slave getting more fun

[thorn creek]

she's not the only thing das hard

[worthy gulch]

hope she feels better to use than it feels to fight

[thorn creek]

but yeah bosses gets harder every patch so das why

stronger units always comes with stronger bosses

[raw swift]

Hi....i've defeated cradle with this score......with S nanami without signature....did i do it...right....?

[stark dove]

good to know. it was strange because i was literally cruising through brainless fights until all of a sudden i didnt

[still moat]

[spiral merlin]

[stiff elm]

there

[still moat]

i think she is pretty straight forward tbh

[stark field]

Worth the SSS3 or should I just SSS Pyroath too?

[stiff elm]

damn, so much fcking clicking.

[still moat]

though i dont spent much time with lilith before i quit

[still moat]

3S pyroath better

can wait for next patch if u are willing to be patience

[stark field]

Yeah I kinda need to get down to building other teams

[thorn creek]

what the wheling

[stiff elm]

how to trueslash bianca rot?

[spiral merlin]

ping orbs ult dodge schwing schwing schwing ult

[raw swift]

Geezus.

[stiff elm]

whats bianca's build

[unborn hound]

wait wait wait. you have sss nanami and you only got 3.6 mil in leader warzone?

[still moat]

tf is flickering ember

[stiff elm]

post hanying for normal and ts

[stark field]

No, I just pushed her to SSS

[stiff elm]

I just run this for trueslash and normal (SSS)

[stark field]

I'll do a rerun in a few

[unborn hound]

scared me there

[stiff elm]

do I keep it like that or change

[stark field]

Wasn't my intention

[feral pollen]

it's going fast already did all endings too

[stiff elm]

I didn't get enough energy.

[sand laurel]

how many runs?

[feral pollen]

8

[sand laurel]

[cold walrus]

ss0 passive

[feral pollen]

i need those wafers for veritas leap

[still moat]

[unborn hound]

so much for you not being a whale tho

[raw swift]

Waffles?

[still moat]

so she does 8000% fire dmg per attack for 4 attacks after exiting the battlefield at 3S ? thats crazy

[stiff elm]

yo how to actually rot bianca ts or is there a mod set im missing

[feral pollen]

baguettes

https://tenor.com/view/kedi-cat-cat-baguette-french-cat-gif-14221264461407307171

[still moat]

dodge > spam ba after ult1

[raw swift]

Fa— 👀

[stark field]

Just supporting the devs so they can keep cooking hopefully

It's the only gacha I play

And there's only bad games nowadays from western devs

[stiff elm]

not enough energy\

[still moat]

did u not upgrade her leap skills

[raw swift]

Hi....is that 6 condelina....?

[still moat]

91 stacks looks weird i regularly got like 120-130 stacks with ss3 balt back then

[stiff elm]

pretty sure I d- BRO

[still moat]

[stiff elm]

how did I do the other two and jut leave one entirely

ohmygaw

hohmygaw ok no comment

[cold walrus]

normally, you need 3x4 pings during balter matrix to fully charge her ts moveset

[still moat]

do u

i thought 3x 3p is enough

[stiff elm]

I see

[cold walrus]

anyways, you need at least 5 ts stacks to deal full damage

[still moat]

thats more on hanying no

can u get 5 stacks on ss0 hanying

[cold walrus]

balter can charge 5 stacks too

[stiff elm]

not enough orbs, time to..?

[clever flare]

Hello is there like a tip to defeat those two haxu

[cold walrus]

not worth anymore

[stiff elm]

I guess not then

so I just orb mald?

[cold walrus]

fk

i still didn't find comprehensive guide for ts on yt

i have only one in chinese

[spiral merlin]

[stiff elm]

im doing everything wrong today

[spiral merlin]

Ts is ez

[cold walrus]

sss solo han

[spiral merlin]

Even swap ts

[cold walrus]

i mean how ts works altogether

[spiral merlin]

The affix itself?

[cold walrus]

yea

[spiral merlin]

That’s secondary

The actual affix is just a means to an end

The end being spending it for dmg

[cold walrus]

hanying is quite interesting case, cuz she both generate and deplete ts stacks and deal good damage, unlike wanshi and daren (nanami too??)

[spiral merlin]

Balter generates and depletes stacks and deals good dmg

Glaciation doesn’t really deplete stacks the same

Nor does ion

Nor does burn

[carmine reef]

Stacks are an active resource during the whole process for ts

For the others it's just enabling the mode

[raw swift]

Should i use Wanshi's dodge hold in ice wz fr or does it do less dmg?

[carmine reef]

It does not do ice dmg so don't lol

[raw swift]

Holding dodge doesn't do ice dmg?

[carmine reef]

correct

[raw swift]

Wth is it for?

[carmine reef]

glaciation

[raw swift]

Oh, i get it.

[carmine reef]

which isn't a team that exists for another couple months

[spiral merlin]

Wanshi hold dodge is high key one of the most jarring changes to adapt to for learning a new team tbh

It shouldn’t be but to me it is

[raw swift]

Is it....alright to use wanshi....as qte bot....?

Wouldn't it make sense to make glaciation into ice wz?

[spiral merlin]

It’s so simple but easy to forget

[spiral merlin]

No

Unless he’s like barely invested

[mild egret]

A game with dodge means dealing damage, and tapping ult means stab stab instead of doing ult

[carmine reef]

it's a different element

[spiral merlin]

And your qu is hyperinvested or smth

[mild egret]

Casual friendly as always

[raw swift]

Damn.

[raw swift]

Mine is.....it's just S, SS, S all without signatures....

[mild egret]

Cant wait cub button to be another weird mechanics

[spiral merlin]

Holy brick

[raw swift]

Time to garden, on that note.

[still moat]

[dawn cloak]

Gliding with cub by holding cub button

[unborn hound]

Time to pull tonitrus

[spiral merlin]

Time to pull tonitrus

[stiff elm]

aint no way my bracket is slacking

is this it? will I finally reach legend wz for the first time??

[buoyant hornet]

@dapper skiff your ion rotation magically solved all my problems lol

It actually allows me to do swordwaves for longer without running out of gauge which is a big plus

[buoyant hornet]

Good luck soldier

@carmine reef what's your ion score so far

[unborn hound]

Do it I believe

[barren plank]

2026 cubs will prolly give 3ping refund every swapin and ult + triple total dmg

[carmine reef]

4.15m

do you want to try

[buoyant hornet]

I do but after I wake up probably (shleepy rn)

Sleepy*

[carmine reef]

[buoyant hornet]

Hope I make it in time before wz shuts down lol

[stiff elm]

surely I won't get sniped

[buoyant hornet]

Live footage of me rn

[buoyant hornet]

Nah you're safe methinks

[stiff elm]

I think the gap is big enough

I pray, my first time reaching legend

but god DAMN.

[buoyant hornet]

You got this :)

[buoyant hornet]

Felt

[stiff elm]

MY WOLLET, I dont even have nanami sig

[buoyant hornet]

I didn't get anything early pity

[unborn hound]

You got this brother believe

[buoyant hornet]

Except a sig offrate ig 😭

[buoyant hornet]

Fun

[stiff elm]

you guys do feral starter right?

[still moat]

no

[stiff elm]

uhhh

cw?

[still moat]

no

i do luna starter

[stiff elm]

.........yk what I can see that making sense.

[still moat]

can u

[stiff elm]

but im just gona save my void team for lilith

[cold walrus]

too many cw pfps

[buoyant hornet]

Wait what

Oh no nanami sig

But still you're better off doing solo nana against cradle

[shadow atlas]

the mission is gone
I’m such a bad student

[stiff elm]

1 minute 💀

[buoyant hornet]

Cw's noodle ass dmg isn't worth it compared to just adding a couple of basics between orb pings to maintain orbs

[stiff elm]

ok solo it is

[buoyant hornet]

Is she cubless too

[stiff elm]

yes

[buoyant hornet]

Ok ouch

[shadow atlas]

wasn’t she super op at some point?

[buoyant hornet]

A bit over a year ago she was insane yeah

[shadow atlas]

wow what happened

[buoyant hornet]

Satan works hard but powercreep works harder

[shadow atlas]

LMAO

[buoyant hornet]

Cw's dmg distribution/multipliers vs. rotation time was just NOT in her favor for long term lol

[stiff elm]

im just gonna off ele lilith with fire

[buoyant hornet]

Only slam does worth dmg, ult 2 was pathetic especially before leap and slam animation takes years

[stiff elm]

I hate this ppc

[floral fable]

Does anybody know why, during Qu 4 stack ult, you get 3 orbs if you do the hold dodge but not if you do the hold basic

Seems so odd

I got a clip just in case

[dawn cloak]

Its 2yr time btw
But sync patch, means multiple patch in one
So every unit dies faster

[carmine reef]

when you enter ult1, you are refunded 3pings equivalent to your inscription count

[floral fable]

Clarification, you get 3 orbs AFTER the ult ends

[carmine reef]

if you complete ult2 with full stacks, you get to keep whatever you have left

if you did not ult2 with full stacks, you lose them

[floral fable]

Ohhhh

Ok thx

Damn so no DLT Qu probably wants to do hold dodge ult more oftwn

Simply because I don't have any god damn orbs

[carmine reef]

r0 yes
5* no

[buoyant hornet]

Btw since you have experience with feral do you think Nanami insta-slam rot is still stronger than a feral rot?

[floral fable]

?

I have her 6 star just no dlt

[buoyant hornet]

5* qu is kinda no rights in terms of double rotation

[carmine reef]

then yes you'd want to use hold dodge first

5* can't even use hold dodge

it's still orb negative

[buoyant hornet]

Thanks kusogames

[floral fable]

Ok cool. Hold basic I just loose all my orbs and my Wanshi ain't built to carry without his 6 star weapin

[carmine reef]

for r0 you'd do one fast ult and one strong ult

[floral fable]

So at least with hold dodge I get to keep some orbs

[floral fable]

Makes sense

[stiff elm]

aaa AAAAAAAAAAAAA

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[carmine reef]

idk which insta slam rot you mean but it's probably stronger than anything feral can do since feral isn't holding fran

[stiff elm]

this gam bro.

if only I had mpa

[buoyant hornet]

Aka enter axe form > instant hold basic into ult

[carmine reef]

i'm doing that regardless other than first rot

[buoyant hornet]

It's the copium us non dlt daren heathens have to do

[cold walrus]

isn't that only for sss?

[carmine reef]

anyone can do that

[stark field]

yeah

[carmine reef]

well any rank from ss0

what i do is prestack 2x3 before swap off

[buoyant hornet]

No it can be used as her first rotation every swap

[carmine reef]

then on swap in i do instant slam and then normal rot and then prestack again

[buoyant hornet]

Wait that's cleevr

[carmine reef]

instant slam+ult is 3 seconds exactly

[buoyant hornet]

Bruh I can't spell for sht today

[carmine reef]

it fits into current weather buff

and it also means second rot fits into amp buff

[buoyant hornet]

Btw real question why do we not usually ping matrix on wanshi before swap off

[carmine reef]

because it doesn't matter

[buoyant hornet]

Like I never see ANYONE do it and I don't wanna do it either because I'm too lazy to see how it bricks

[carmine reef]

it doesn't brick

[buoyant hornet]

Does it get converted into a normal 3p on swap off?

[carmine reef]

it just is a waste of orbs

you don't retain your gauge on next swap

[buoyant hornet]

It doesn't build gauge?

[buoyant hornet]

Ahhhhh ic

[still moat]

I do

If u see my ice wz video I always do

[shadow atlas]

oof

[buoyant hornet]

If you swap off nana while in axe mode does she stay in it

[carmine reef]

don't think so

[cold walrus]

is it useless? i tried that trick but don't remember any benefit from it

[buoyant hornet]

I never tried because why would I swap

[carmine reef]

but she keeps the starlight gauge which is why the prestack works

[still moat]

The benefit is that it doesn't look weird

[plucky yoke]

should i build cw even tho i dont really understand her playstyle

[still moat]

It does nothing else

[plucky yoke]

i should go through her tutorial again

[still moat]

https://youtu.be/SXgQO51e9fs

[buoyant hornet]

Hmmmmm so about that

[buoyant hornet]

I'll watch ty

Purely because I have no damn clue how you can get 6m with that invest

[still moat]

help me hit that 1K views for CC role

[plucky yoke]

??

[buoyant hornet]

Well cw is kiiiiinda not a good pick anymore lol

[cold walrus]

legend. can't use it for current wz cuz my poor ass in hero rn

[buoyant hornet]

We get a free copy next patch + Nanami Startrail solos most lightning content

[plucky yoke]

god dammit i already wasted a bunch of level mats on her

[vernal charm]

Is an account with Nanami+Sig+Lucia Pyro+enough blue cards to get Luna Obv good to continue playing on? My friend gave it to me
Its a starter account

[carmine reef]

very

[buoyant hornet]

Level mats aren't the issue it's really about what you used to GET her lol

[dawn cloak]

If no orb pinged after several seconds, it keeps decreasing steadily iirc even when he is the active character

[vernal charm]

Wont I be limited on teams?

[wise dew]

The text oml, I gotta make it bigger so I can SEEE

[carmine reef]

you'd be even more limited on a new account lol

[dawn cloak]

Blame kuro

[buoyant hornet]

You build more teams over time

[vernal charm]

True... What teams can I make? It has the two selectors

[still moat]

Not much different score between hero and legend this week

Someone on hero got 6.1m with my invest

[plucky yoke]

i wanted hanying i lost my gamble

[carmine reef]

fire, lightning, plasma next patch, a budget phys, a budget ice, and nihil

[still moat]

On legend I think could get 6.4m, I don't see a way for 6.5m

[vernal charm]

So for now I just slap Nanami+Lucia together with some random for now? Since I heard Nanami is good solo

[carmine reef]

not together, except in plasma, which you probably won't do for now unless you have scire

lucia is main dps for fire and nanami is main dps for lightning

[cold walrus]

i could only get 5.9m, but my wanshi is 3.3 and kale doesn't have wep resos. and it is on eu

[vernal charm]

Oh well

[unborn hound]

it's still there though

[cold walrus]

32th wave is worm, i think it is impossible to pass through w32 with my invest

[wise dew]

Can I complain to Megumi to increase text size

[buoyant hornet]

I don't get how I'm getting 5.3m with same invest except SSS r0 ayla + cubless qu

There's no way r1 is that much better than sss amp buff no?

[dawn cloak]

The newbie meta roadmap is simple in this game. Just keep pulling all new non-free S ranks. Thats it
In time your acct will take shape
We do get enough free gacha pull to do that

[wise dew]

Guys I literally cannot read everything without occasionally using a magnifying glass, AND I DON'T EVEN NEED GLASSES

[still moat]

3S amp is better yes

It mostly boils down to ur wanshi rotation so both him and qu doesn't overkill waves

[dawn cloak]

Sure.
Complaining in this channel wont do you anything

[wise dew]

Lmao I know

[lament cedar]

Bros how well does PGR run on a work laptop?

[still moat]

What text size

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah that's what I do I've practiced ice breakpoints more than I've practiced breathing

[lament cedar]

[still moat]

My eyes is -4.75 I can read just fine without my glasses

[dawn cloak]

It runs well enough on 5yr old mobile phone
So why not?

[buoyant hornet]

That's why I'm confused usually my score matches that of some of the best ice players I know at a similar invest lol

[still moat]

PGR optimization is really good on PC it can run on potatoes

[vernal charm]

Oh ok fair enough, well for now then... Any good budget teams I can make for Lucia or Nanami that I can do now with the 2 s selectors/a 40 pulls on the blue select banner for Luna obv+someone else

[lament cedar]

My app keeps crashing on the new event even in minimum graphics

[buoyant hornet]

And I know for certain that with the runs I've tested so far 6m sounds impossible for me lol

[lament cedar]

I reported it once too megumi

[still moat]

If u record the run I can point out maybe a few things

[dawn cloak]

Blue banner pick 1 Teddy, then XXI multiple copies
Can also pick 2 bridget in between them

[vernal charm]

What team does these two form with?

[dawn cloak]

Lucia can be paired with Nanami as cope fire tank, but thats honestly an advanced stuff

[unborn hound]

dark team with luna or lilith when she comes out

[dawn cloak]

Newbie might find bridget qte bots easier as fire tank for Pyro

[vernal charm]

Nanami as in Nanami starail or the pulse version who is fire

[frozen creek]

Pulse in the big 25

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah I'll try after I wake up

[vernal charm]

😭

[dawn cloak]

We dont backpull old unit
Its Startrail
Nanami lightning also have fire shred in her kit, but need to do special rotation to activate it

[vernal charm]

Pls tell me that rotation is not hard, cuz I do like both starrail and Lucia

[carmine reef]

it's very easy

[vernal charm]

but when I looked at Lucia's gameplay I got a headache

[carmine reef]

everything about nanami is braindead

[vernal charm]

Lucia's guide was 50 minute long video 😭

[deft apex]

Which is why I like nanami

[vernal charm]

People say she has 4 stances, and 3 ultimates

Is that true? If so Im cooked learning all that

[carmine reef]

nnnnnno

[dawn cloak]

Just for example
Its not optimized btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t03OXEvWQlY&t=95s

[cold walrus]

nanami is braindead herself as a personality

[buoyant hornet]

Who 😭

[carmine reef]

those are exaggerations for shock factor

realistically you can say lucia has two ults

there are a couple different rotations based on rank and on the mode

[vernal charm]

Man that looks so fun. So instead of Liv I just get Brigte or whatever u said the unit was called?

[carmine reef]

but for a single given rank there's only like two optimal rotations per mode

[buoyant hornet]

Liv is an amplifier and bridget is a tank they are not interchangeable

[vernal charm]

Oh

Any budget buffers?

[carmine reef]

the budget buffer option for fire is so bad she might as well not exist

[vernal charm]

Well its cooked then

[carmine reef]

you'd use a different amp until ishmael next patch

and then until vera the patch after

[vernal charm]

I guess Imma just slap whatever with her then, whatever looks nice

[carmine reef]

you can use alisa or ayla since they are free

and you'd just put dv guin on them

[dawn cloak]

Just for that specific job filling rotation, it can be
But I think using off-ele amp is better
Theres one free from dorm.

[vernal charm]

Wont that take quite a while though? Dont thinkt here is much or any dorm progress on it

[carmine reef]

not really

[shadow atlas]

not for me

[vernal charm]

Anyhow, do I just aim for Lucia's sig with all my BC then?

[carmine reef]

at max level dorm on 3x sync patch those characters took 5 days to get

[dawn cloak]

Really? Try screenshots

[carmine reef]

at level 1 dorm the first character will take 10 days but you will already be leveling up dorm significantly by the time you get to the second character

assuming you're actually paying attention to the dorm upgrades, which you should cause it's like two clicks

[dawn cloak]

How much left?

[vernal charm]

150 , but Im only at chapter 5. So I think its enough time? + Events ofc, havent done any

[shadow atlas]

one second

@dawn cloak

[dawn cloak]

Then sure, pyro really wants her 6* sig
Also do pay attention to what Zexous said there

He is the veteran
Im just a newbie pleb

[carmine reef]

randall such a glazer

[buoyant hornet]

@still moat this was the 1st or 2nd wanshi wz ever but yeah general gameplay stuff applies
https://youtu.be/j87lji5bNjs?si=GF6UGm-JFSQN6f1_

[dawn cloak]

You finished one mission right?
Then deletes mission, so you can pick again

[shadow atlas]

I haven’t done any
that’s the main issue

[dawn cloak]

Whaaa

[buoyant hornet]

Get 7m ion for me zexlao

[dawn cloak]

Did you delete one?

[carmine reef]

[shadow atlas]

I think so

[carmine reef]

damn yall hear sumn?

[buoyant hornet]

Streets saying you can get 8m ion with base S and 4* wep

[thorn creek]

bet

[carmine reef]

[shadow atlas]

okay I’ve unlocked dorm
anything I should know?

[dawn cloak]

Weird, it shouldnt be
Huh okay dunno then

[shadow atlas]

not sure what I should be doing

[buoyant hornet]

Can't wait for your 10m glacio with base S team 3* wep and cubs unequipped

[thorn creek]

ur mainly doing the missions in dorm, like patting characters, building 3 furnitures, etc.

[buoyant hornet]

Is 3* wep even a thing

[carmine reef]

it is but not for any new units

3* is only a thing for release A ranks

[buoyant hornet]

Lmao ancient history

[wise dew]

Hey not bad

[steel karma]

Which S Character should i choose from the blue banner? I am a returning players, returned after a year and my current best dps is crimson weave, i don't have no. 21 feral tho and i am currently building nanami startrail and pyroath.

[shadow atlas]

ah I see

[dawn cloak]

Do dorm commission daily and buy the free Wanshi Lucis Dreamer shards first.
He can solo ice

[thorn creek]

luna oblivion

[wise dew]

Uhhh can dorms give us new characters?

[carmine reef]

3 of them

[thorn creek]

yes via commissions

basically just send units to do missions and they'll complete in in a few hours and gib currency which u can exchange for certain char shards

[steel karma]

Alright. Thanks

[thorn creek]

so far there's ayla kaleido, alisa echo, and wanshi lucid dreamer

they're each helpful for their respective elemental teams

[buoyant hornet]

Hanying solacetune

[wise dew]

How many character shards to get a new charavte r

[thorn creek]

oh and also void except alisa

[stark field]

50

[steel karma]

Hanying solacetune or luna oblivion? I am confused now xD

[chrome river]

is there like a guide on which passive skill to use for certain cubs? specifically for nanaknight and pyroath

[dawn cloak]

Both valid meta pick

[wise dew]

Uhhhh

[raw swift]

50 for new character.
30 if you pull a copy of a character to SS.
Cost 500 phantom pain cage (currency) to SS your unit.
From then on its SS3, SS6, then SSS.

[wise dew]

I WANT WANASHI LUCID DREAMER OML

[steel karma]

I don't have both who should i get first?

[buoyant hornet]

Either or, you can get one now and the other one next patch

[thorn creek]

don't scream at me u peasant

https://tenor.com/view/anime-stop-texting-me-gif-19859303

[wise dew]

I don't care about rank

[barren plank]

Why are we bullying newbies

[dawn cloak]

You'll need both of them in the end
If youre not fresh newbie, you can get Solacetune now
So when Selena comes, physical team is fully set

[wise dew]

But what do I commission :(

[still moat]

It's always the passive 5 and 4 for S rank cubs

[raw swift]

Click disbatch all.

[steel karma]

I am lvl 96 rn. So i should go for solacetune?

[thorn creek]

higher ranks first, but u can just press dispatch all in bottom right

[dawn cloak]

Click Dispatch All

[raw swift]

Check on it in a few hours, you'll be able to claim within the time limit.
Do that daily for dorm coins; buy Wanshi n Ayla.

[exotic thunder]

Hey guys I have Startrail and Garnet lv 1, is it not worth raising vera at all?

[thorn creek]

u can rais vera to support startrail

[raw swift]

Yes. Just watch the time they finish.

[wise dew]

DORM COINS?

[dawn cloak]

imo yes, since you shouldnt struggle too hard like the fresh newbie

[raw swift]

Yes. Click back from that page and click shop. It should take you to the dorm shop.

[exotic thunder]

Fair I dont have a lightning attacker

[wise dew]

This is like the easiest way to get new characters dawg what

[raw swift]

Sadly it's only 2 important characters for your ice team, iirc.

[shadow atlas]

solo?

[steel karma]

Alright thanks

[dawn cloak]

Solo carry, just like Nanaknight

[wise dew]

What can I do with coating sketches?

[wise dew]

Ice team?

[raw swift]

Home screen. Click shop and check that stuff out.

[shadow atlas]

I see

[raw swift]

Different elements. Fire, Ice, Lightning, and one other that i can't remmeber.

[dapper skiff]

I'm in the wrong bracket

[stark field]

Anyone knows if uncle will be in the blue reset next month?

[unborn hound]

@shadow atlas #📨・meta-help message

[unborn hound]

yes

[dawn cloak]

You'll be running big wanshi S rank + smol wanshi A rank

[shadow atlas]

I haven’t unlocked multiple commissions yet

[stark field]

Good, no need to roll on arrival banner then

[shadow atlas]

noted

[dawn cloak]

Legend

[shadow atlas]

also I apologise for being a bricked student

[still moat]

Well wata is free in Selena patch

[dawn cloak]

~~ youre mentor is bricked too dw ~~

[still moat]

U have 3S nanami, she is better than ss0 wata

[dawn cloak]

Just run watananaknight

[stark field]

I suppose I could lol

[dark warren]

someone tell me how to use these
sss karen isnt a total waste right

[shadow atlas]

are guilds important?

[still moat]

5% edr bot is fine Ig

[stark field]

Is Empyrea still in the fire composition or is she gonna get deprecated by Vera?

[dawn cloak]

Find one with active members at least

Me just finding the top 100 and apply to each of em

Usually some are an open guild

Which then youre insta accepted

[shadow atlas]

I see

[still moat]

Empyrea is dead after vera by either vera or ishmael

[dawn cloak]

Guild is just fun content

[stark field]

Yeah, not gonna build fire until Vera then

[dawn cloak]

Is that 45 CW shards?

[dark warren]

i dont know who cw is anymore

[dawn cloak]

Its either CW or Daren replaced first

Make your bet lol

[dark warren]

alternatively

SSS balter

True slash kinda fun

[still moat]

It isnt

[dark warren]

i like it

[cold walrus]

Tf even pre vera?

[still moat]

Ye

[kindred quartz]

Is nanami startrail good (im currently at chapter 3)

[unborn hound]

me when i lie

[still moat]

-3s swap CD + higher fire shred is better than ss0 wata's dmg output

[dawn cloak]

Yes, she can solo lightning

[cold walrus]

How to rot then?

[still moat]

Ignition rot

[unborn hound]

@shadow atlas don't forget to get wanshi first

[kindred quartz]

Should i invest in her or lee?

[still moat]

Hold yellow https://youtu.be/8bc1xJ5FWlc?si=Ei4mNjGX1k00Xlzk

[cold walrus]

I know, i mean rot of entire team

[dawn cloak]

Lee who?

[kindred quartz]

Entropy

[dawn cloak]

Naaaaaaaaaaaah
Hes dead

[cold walrus]

Nanami powercreeping wata is real

[dawn cloak]

Just focus on Nanami now

[kindred quartz]

Is this lucky?

[still moat]

It is

[deft apex]

[kindred quartz]

Oh, i thought it was normal

[dawn cloak]

Yes https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/867784144247193600

[opaque ridge]

Hey wtf why is there flex in gph

[dawn cloak]

Newbie luck is real wadepak

Bro got SS3 without trying

[shadow atlas]

I won’t, thank you

[hollow tulip]

can i flex Cinderella

[unborn hound]

anyone know what other weapons you can get if you off rate ish's sig?

[opaque ridge]

Other weapons

[rigid coyote]

Hello I am new. Are there any recommened guides / videos for getting into pgr in 2025?

[unborn hound]

you don't say?

[unborn hound]

#📨・meta-help message

[raw swift]

How well can nana cope in fire?

[unborn hound]

ezra tested her and said bridget is better

[distant shoal]

where can i find pyroath build

[raw swift]

Damn. So it's either stronger solo lighting or stronger fire team.

[vale raft]

Lucia: Pyroath <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:attacker:1285839106240417803><:fire_element:1290613867365273630><:electroconvergence:1288090218922119181>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

General DPS set
Used at all ranks

Memories

4x Heraclitus
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

Cottie

[kindred quartz]

What should I do first

Get nanami to SSS or get her weapon?

[dawn cloak]

No dont follow ezra

[dawn cloak]

#📨・meta-help message

[dawn cloak]

Wadepak why are you keep using ezra as a meta guidance lol

At least refer to Kuraisan0 pls

He does all kinds of poor invest and cope runs

[unborn hound]

didn't the guy who did the original nanami in wz hero also said something about bridget being better?

[dawn cloak]

Nope

[unborn hound]

ezra will pay for this. time to bring up ishmael's sss as revenge

[vale raft]

Ishmael: Parhelion

Skill - SSS

Churning Wheel of Fate

Level 1 - Unlocked at SS3

Upon casting Afterglow of Worlds for the first time upon entering the battlefield, gain 180 Gravitational Collapse Points and a Mark of Collapse. Base DMG of Signature - Extinction Sentence increases by 60%. While the Incorporeal Inhibition Domain is active, every Phantom Abysm generates an extra 3 Signature Energy. Enhances the special abilities triggered based on the Observation Chronicle.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SSS

Gravitational Collapse Points' damage amplification effect increases by 50%. During the 5th hit of Phantom Abysm, you can input one 3-Ping to deal an additional 1000% Nihil DMG and gain 180 Gravitational Collapse Points. Enhances the special abilities triggered based on the Observation Chronicle. Base DMG efficiency increase against Equilibrium Fields increases to 150%.

Tank State
Fire: Unlocked at SS3: Scorching Invasion and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%.
Unlocked at SSS: Scorching Invasion and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%. Switch cooldown of all members in the team is reduced by 3s; this effect does not stack with others of the same type.
Ice: Unlocked at SS3: Frost Corrosion and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%.
Unlocked at SSS: Frost Corrosion and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%. Switch cooldown of all members in the team is reduced by 3s; this effect does not stack with others of the same type.

Lightning:Unlocked at SS3: Turbulence Interference and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%.
Unlocked at SSS: Turbulence Interference and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%. Switch cooldown of all members in the team is reduced by 3s; this effect does not stack with others of the same type.
Dark: Unlocked at SSS: Chain Fusion and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%.

Amplfier State
Fire: Unlocked at SSS: Amplifier Class Skill effect increases by 100%.
Ice: Unlocked at SSS: Amplifier Class Skill effect increases by 100%.
Lightning: Unlocked at SSS: Amplifier Class Skill effect increases by 100%.
Dark: Unlocked at SS3: Dark Radiation and Void Disintegration effects increase by 10%.
Unlocked at SSS: Dark Radiation and Void Disintegration effects increase by 10%. All member switch-ins reset the cooldown of QTE skills.

[still moat]

Ss0 nanami is slightly worse than ss0 wata

[vale raft]

Ishmael: Parhelion

Skill - QTE (Lv. 18)

Prayer for Refuge

Kicks the Keystaff at the target, dealing Nihil DMG. Triggers a special ability based on the Observation Chronicle after casting.

• Deals 600.0% Nihil DMG.
• Applies different effects depending on the Observation Chronicle.

**Tank State**

Fire: Applies the Scorching Invasion effect that reduces Fire Resistance by 15% and Collapse Singularity effect that reduces Nihil Resistance by 15% to targets hit for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Ice: Applies the Frost Corrosion effect that reduces Ice Resistance by 15% and Collapse Singularity effect that reduces Nihil Resistance by 15% to targets hit for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Lightning: Applies the Turbulence Interference effect that reduces Lightning Resistance by 15% and Collapse Singularity effect that reduces Nihil Resistance by 15% to targets hit for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Dark: Applies the Chain Fusion effect that reduces Dark Resistance by 15% and Collapse Singularity effect that reduces Nihil Resistance by 15% to targets hit for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

**Amplifier State**

Fire: Heals allies for 100% of ATK, grant the Fire Tempered effect that increases Fire DMG by 10% and the Disintegration effect that increases Nihil DMG by 10% to allies for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Ice: Heals allies for 100% of ATK, grant the Frost Crystal effect that increases Ice DMG by 10% and the Disintegration effect that increases Nihil DMG by 10% to allies for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Lightning: Heals allies for 100% of ATK, grant the ** Lightning Surge** effect that increases Lightning DMG by 10% and the Disintegration effect that increases Nihil DMG by 10% to allies for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Dark: Heals allies for 100% of ATK, grant the Dark Radiation effect that increases Dark DMG by 10% and the Disintegration effect that increases Nihil DMG by 10% to allies for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

[still moat]

But 3S wata gapped 3S nanami so bad

[cold walrus]

Why did i give wata 2nd reso

[steady otter]

R3 needed

[wise dew]

What can I do with coating sketches

[steady otter]

Lantern no, u can use 4 guin 4 samantha on kaleido
Eins gloria on luna

[still moat]

Bricked

Now u have to 3S wata

[raw swift]

That's not bad. You got rot for nana and pyro since apparently i was doing it wrong?

[still moat]

Sunk cost

[cold walrus]

I didn't know i will whale for sss nanami

[wise dew]

.

[still moat]

U buy coating with it idk

[wise dew]

Dawg

[raw swift]

Go to home page. Press shop. There's a shop where you can buy skins for frames.

[cold walrus]

At least wata is usable in ppc

[still moat]

Not R2

[cold walrus]

Yea it was brick

The sad thing i wanted to buy skin for him

[peak whale]

Yall watch death note

[cold walrus]

Now i don't even sure about it

His skin is hella good

[wise dew]

Wait if you buy the coating do you get the charscter

[raw swift]

No.

[wise dew]

O

[cold walrus]

Ofc no

[raw swift]

That'd be too easy.

[dawn cloak]

Bro just watch the video for the rot
Also

[still moat]

I learned my lesson from my main account, now my account doesn't have anyone above R1

[raw swift]

I'll try wit them fast ass hands.

[still moat]

I had R3 ploom, R3 balter, R3 CW

[deft apex]

And now r1 everyone

Massive whel

[still moat]

R1 everyone so I can relate

[dawn cloak]

If only those R3 gives some of the mats back

[raw swift]

Sig with one reso?

[still moat]

Yes

[dawn cloak]

When feed to other sig

[cold walrus]

Even amps?

[still moat]

Yes

[foggy ridge]

should i off ele lilith?

[still moat]

R2 amp is a scam

[still moat]

I off ele with fire

[river nymph]

hi :3

[foggy ridge]

hi

[cold walrus]

When i pulled kale sig, i felt i was scammed. Cuz i didn't see score increase in wz but that was pre wanshi

[frail hinge]

What unit after ishmael has a super good ss3

[still moat]

[frail hinge]

Selena or Vera

Lilith is ss3 minimum invest anyways

[river nymph]

[still moat]

Selena

[frail hinge]

Vera ss3 is garbo?

[still moat]

It's only amp stuff

[frail hinge]

Now are we talking pyroath levels of good ss3 or just not ass

[still moat]

Better than pyroath ss3 tbh

[frail hinge]

Even tho pyro's fire and ion wzs still outdo selena's?

[barren plank]

iirc it like quadruples her core damage

Please correct me tho if Im wrong

[frail hinge]

HOLY HELL

[vital rain]

[river nymph]

[frail hinge]

Wait Vera ss3?

[barren plank]

Ye

[still moat]

Fire outdoes phys only after vera, ion outdoes glacio because glacio haven't gotten any boss zone

[frail hinge]

That can't possible be true that's borderline required

[river nymph]

selena is that girl

[barren plank]

She still doesn't outdamage Pyroath tho so there's that

[still moat]

Once Alisa is replaced there is no chance either ion or fire beats glacio and phys

[frail hinge]

Is she another wanshi

[foggy ridge]

my dark stil ldoes better for knight godammit

[river nymph]

are you guys whaling?

[frail hinge]

Huh

[barren plank]

I don't play CN so I can't really say

[frail hinge]

Tbh i was just curious

[vale raft]

Vera: Geiravor

Skill - SSS

Conflagration's Lament

Level 1 - Unlocked at SS3

Effect of Fire Tempered granted to friendly units healed by Vera: Geiravor increases by 10%.

• If there is at least 1 Darkflow stack, friendly units healed by Vera: Geiravor additionally gain 10% of the Ashen Decay effect.
• While Unrivaled Flame is active, Ruinous Cleave deals an additional 1/1/2/2/3/3 instances of DMG when 1/2/3/4/5/6 Yellow Orbs are consumed by Flame-Forged Night.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SSS

All member switch-ins reset the cooldown of QTE skills.

• Effect of Fire Tempered granted to friendly units healed by Vera: Geiravor increases by 10%.
• If there is at least 1 Darkflow stack, friendly units healed by Vera: Geiravor additionally gain 10% of the Ashen Decay effect. Upon initial entry and switch-in, gains an extra 3 Yellow Orbs and 10 Signature Energy, and gains 10 Signature Energy and 30 Rekindled Spark upon entering Deathmatch for the first time.
• Pinging a set of Blue Orbs grants an additional 12 Signature Energy.
• While Unrivaled Flame is active, Base DMG of Hunter's Thrill, Smelted Soul, Bladetwister Stride, and Ruinous Cleave increases by 50%.

[river nymph]

same

[foggy ridge]

if the phys amp does damage that isnt a wet noodle, it will probably boost phys up a good ton

[frail hinge]

Doesn't alisa barely rot tho

[still moat]

And probably the crit buff isn't tied to mem sig

[frail hinge]

She's like empy during wata pyro runs