#📨・meta-help
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Oh damn.
which is why leap coming soon
Oh yea, you buy instead 
You 🐳
but even so alisa one of the most cracked amps lol
Not as old as Kaleido, but still, newer sig is far more demand
wym, im true f2p 
Free 2 Pay 
Is getting Nanami sig weapon with weapon choice ticket a wise decision or should I save it for next patch?
So to get this right, Echo is old so her sig is not recommended whereas Tonitris is (a bit) newer. Her sig is only recommended for later glacio purposes.
Save for later patch imo
Also Pyro wants 6* sig more than Nanami
no, tonitrus even older
Geezus.
tonitrus is free and alisa needs harmo, so that's why it's recommended
Tonitrus is far older
But selectable as free rewards for newbie
Tonitrus is newer??? Huh?
Alright then ill use it for pyroath when I get her right?
Yep sure thing.
it’s a free bow that alisa can use for harmo
I should've gotten her sig.
Tonitrus is the sig for the second gacha S rank ever
Ezra's status 

If you whel just get it then
No need to care much
So its not old
Its ancient 
damn thats prehistorically old
It is what it is, now. It'll just be more chaotic.
Well, Sig for boosting up physical and glacio as well as having that harmo
Is your Alisa with 5* ? 
Or youre gachaing Tonitrus?? 
SS Alisa, Tonitus with harmo.
I was aiming for sig and someone said Tonitrus was better. 😭
hlep, just swiped cause i got bricked on cw coating. is the vid from 1 year ago still viable on what o get from shop?
So you gacha???

Wym? Pull? Yeah.
Alternative universe

I think you missed something.
Was someone misinfo here?
Or are you not clear in your question??
I mean I have tonitrus and I'm thinking about pulling sig
Basically your situation
Ig misinfo here.
Wtf
-Should I pull alisa sig
-no use tonitrus
-aight
Pulls tonitrus
Well you should have read the weapon description also
Its clear enough to understand which is better
Yall can't read?
RIP in pieces better luck next time bozo
Please keep swear words to a minimum
I'm not that worried.

How does cw as a qte bot work, and is vera just better assuming both at ss and vera withou sig
R||espon||ded.


ult on cw then dont swap her in
her qte does a respectable amount of dmg
chat, between Wanshi, the new Vera, and Echo, who needs the first reso the most?
Snowveil cub right for s rank cub
So whats her qte bot build
thats a good question
Yes, thats wanshi cub
Big boost for him

I don't have wanshi LD unfortunately
You have
He is in dorm for free
bully jeremey to play more light pls
Bet

I have like 11k of the dorm currency so I won't have must to get him so I'll save for rn
i think bro is done
And he can solo ice dps if no Qu
3x patch right now, should take about a week for 100k
I remember being on when qu was released and then took a 67 day break after that

damn... i guess i am the undisputed lightning king now

Alrighty then, I'll focus on getting that done and get memories underway ahead of time before the week is over
O yea, dump all your serum in this stage #📨・meta-help message
To buy memory and any mats you need
I hace ss empy, s kalaido, and ss3 wanshi. Who should i dump bp vouchers into
maybe alex will mald light
chat does the new Vera frame need dlt?
helper
Alrighty then, for now I'll do that and grind events so I can get startrail and use event currency to build her shortly after
Are you sure?
Yep. This week warzone is ice and lightning
And next week also the same iirc
So both Nanami and Wanshi will help you
?
helper 
I can always save a good chunk of serum just incase or just stocking up on serum and dumping it all on event without using too much reserves
Helper 
i kneel to dalao
Does anyone have recomendations?

Just dont let it expire into cogs 
wanshi sss/save for lilith
My lightning characters are all at SS investment, should I run solo nanami (w/ garnet and 21) or nanami cw 21? I've been getting conflicting information on this
does she need dlt or nah
Save for Lilith
How much you have now?
I wont, since I'm getting into the game again that's the last thing I want to do
Is next patch going to have Startrail in the a rank banner?
nanami got sig?
She will at some point
<@&595893856554319873>
Fake don't click
@ripe stag mod payment 
Yeet this bish
anyone knows?
Are you sure?

👍

She will eventually I think
@stiff burrow

Mods working extra fast today 
bro my browser just saved me lmao
so you'd often just run swap
So if nanami has sig then no swap?
stellar supply not worth it correct? or no
sig and r1
Damn
Idk if its next patch or the patch after that
Feral now uses DV with guiv set for now on with Nanaknight right?
yes
does nobody know abt this?
so weird they changed the reso icon
ask when magma or other cn players are on
yes it's a scam/bait
@stiff burrow as Kirai said
And that message 
noted
So whats ss3 cw qte bot build
who are the other cn players
What is swap weather
@crystal breach dark wz hate is real I'm right there with you on this
@stiff burrow click that msg
Does cw qte bot build even exist or should i just stick with vera
btw is startrail CUB a big deal for her or can i skip it
Still no idea what this is. Is it warzone?
vera x6 tank reso
You always get a cub only when u can afford it


@ruby minnow do you think sss feral is mandatory for swapping if nanami is sss or nah
Nah idc

Yes warzone
not sure, but i think if both cw and nanami are sss ur likely better off swapping
can try asking magma, he played on an like this recently
That's garnet's 

whos joe
tht would be cool
the entity on lane can also step up if they want to, im open to any challenge

Is echo still good?
I need liv empyrea for flame team...or at least watanabe. JUST SOMEONE TO AT LEAST SUPPORT LUCIA. PLEASE!?! WHO CAN AT HELP THIS LADY!?!
Yes
dont pull this scam
playing current light is the equivalent of playing dark
boring ass team
U can cope with Ishmael next patch
Uh you could finesse it with bridget
Then ill get her after Wanshi in dorm shop
0 thought process required
But...but...how do i get empyrea😭
Is she...a flame type?
dont care
come play pookie
:(
only reason to play light is to play the remains of cw
she is unique, she is basically all elements except physical
Jinshi pfp?
ya
Oh. Nihil like luna?
exactly
so long as cw exists i will play lightning
Its soo cute
I think myngame crahpshed from my amazing ppc run i have been stuck on lucias exit screen for 5 minutes now
she can work as either amplifier or tank in any elemental team
dlt luna or pyroath
Am i drunk
But...does she heal?
I need hp...lucia needs hp...understand?
only if shes an amplifier
js use bridget and sophia
Hmmm. Okie

pull wata next patch from basic and use ishamel as copium
i mean, she doesnt need hp, just dodge 
Dont use sophia
just don't get hit lmao 
is it fate banner?
themed
oh ok I was worried for you for a second

i might try fate 
you beast...this woman has a 9 hit combo just to activate her effect. And you want me t-t...to...dodge!?!
ok i cringed
yes 
as long as your character doesnt flinch its all good
if they're not real they're not real
~~ A Heresy~~
Dead enemies can't hit you lock in
Chat brick this man above me
hit them until they die 
just use glacio pyroath and stun them
Ishmael will become amp/healer if theres tank
Will become tank if theres amp
If theres 2 amp or 2 tanks, she have no class 

hyper is real
real trash
Hyperfake 
Dang he got powercrept too?!
I pull this woman then....to support pyroath.

hyper is like two powercreeps out
dlt better for luna or pyroath
yo is solo wanshi in wz without dlt playable or nah?

i have no clue
solo wanshi is something i dare not touch with a 10 ft pole
Ew solo wanshi
i do bcs im a newbie with no qukra lmao 🧱
yeah it's understandable
solo wanshi is more comfy with dlt
i am just not the person to ask 
You probably wouldn't need dlt on wanshi as doing basic with him a bit would get you just enough time to have qte time up for each of him ult
but technically not necessary
Wanshi rot is fast
how do i get the achievement "I dont need your help" in Lucia Pyro's story
Half of your ult won't get buffed if you were playing solo with him with the usual rotation
Hmm what do you guys think
Malded my way to 3rd place in wz. I'm done.
wait isnt solo wanshi rot just spamming drone ults?
mann cant figure out what i used to log in so i cant even count myself as a returnee now..
- asserting daunting essence over my assumumption Qu shukra was a basic s rank only to earn her by accident in my few days of starting.* 🫠
Pretty accurate imo
like one wise person said if something is a counterfeit, a fake, a copy it does not mean they can not rival the genuine piece
Quite accurate
I mean I did both for my solo run for more efficient stacks
Emiya my goat 🔥
It's embarrassing ngl it's like 3rd worst female to male to ratio
Ahem... marvel rivals
Emma frost lmao
emiya shirou is too much wise for us normal people to understand
thing is, I usually lack orbs after using the 12 ult
how long does it take to get to chapter 8 and get enough for 40 pulls on standard banner?
Even witch doctors can't comprehend his prowess. He is one above all
A portion of your lifetime, please.
I mean...sanity
for real i still to this day cant comprehend the wise words he once spoke "People die when they are killed" ~ Shirou Emiya
im assuming 1 week or something
This generated a loophole in the magia system. It should have been unsaid!
how do i get the achievement "i don't need your help" in Homecoming Butterfly in Lucia's pyro story
Fake
R1999 isnt dominated by women
Else they will often release husbando thats also meta
Alas...
It is
Hi rand
Valid source where?
Im sure the 3 people that play r1999 will appreciate yo standing up for the game
We literally on waifu rush lol
shamane trust
The last meta husbando was 6 😭
The server, a bunch of girl coomers everywhere
my p2 shamane on there is soooo useful (ion even play anymore i quit after 1.3 orsomething)
ShamaneKEK 
Waiting for daily dose of lesbian girl on girl action
God damn.. even the girls at my school know of r1999, no dude knows
Bro Im in that server
No, still dominated by men
Just more women, but not outnumbered lol

still more women bruh, that literally supports the graph already
Graph said 60% women 40% men
False
If its correct, meta husbando will be coming constantly 
Let alone husbando in itself
You know girls aren't only there for the men right?
Everyone down bad for tenant for no god damn reason week 1 of the game
When new beta?
Baked ahh server
Anyway its written source: tiktok lol
So yeah, no way Im taking it seriously 
do u guys have any good video guide to suggest for this game or no? i think my PGR knowledge is really outdated
Just do your dailies
For those looking this tag for questions and they're confused about the ongoing conversation.
Yes, you aren't mistaken. this is gameplay help. How can we assist you?
Is it worth to use plume sig as fodder to echo r2 ?
PtN having more female players than male players shows that women are more balanced
Lots of characters are doing absolutely nothing these days...
Dunno, I never follow YT vids
Famous one sometimes tell bricks advice
They like LaD and PtN
DADDIES AND MOMMIES
Wait
Im in the 11% of LaD male players

So when is your next period? 
I heard they track those
its called being gay
I saw an infinity nikki player at school the other week, the whole class hoarded around her gameplay bro
Is that shi even a gacha game
Yes.
Have you seen Infinity Nikki pvp?? 
Yes it is....
Its oneshot stick right?
I overheard them talking
Ewww stalker 
The combat was like, tap the enemy once with a stick boom evaporated
I hate the oversaturation of female characters in gacha
Need to balance it with LaD

Eavesdropping girls group convo
Its the whole class hoarding to see bro
I mostly have female friends anyways so I know what they usually talk about
Ok
There were more dudes there than girls watching this girl play dressup
Wtf

Ezra geh 
And then im over here blitzing waves in trueslash warzone, and then some dude goes over to see what infinity nikki was and looks at my screen for half a second "what the fcking dmc is this"
You think someone who plays Otome Games cuz he's bored will not try LaD?
Sums up pgr ig

Truly cooked
Yes.. play the nonexistence of you and me
Will Ismael and Lilith need a reso to not be clunky
Sss or rightlesd
Highly

Lilith needs DLT
Ishmael needs DLT
I hope not.
Oh

I will have to choose who gonna get that
Like a week if you're playing 6 hrs a day
Just don't play the story
I only have one reso
I didn't play since chapter 17
If this ishmael promotion is getting overhead because she needs like SSS to make worth her worth it. I'm not itnerested
Rush as in skip?
i need to unlock mechanics and bc though
yes, just clear everything asap
She works just fine at SS0 + R1 sig bruh
SSS is not for F2Ps
do you want to have nausea
19 hrs(with battling estimate of 4 mins per match.
Multiple hours, alot of it will be just skipping nodes though
Both do need reso lol
ehh
This is like not even close to true
Amen. Thank goodness.
yeah fair how long would it take to just get through chapter 8
like from begin all the way to 8
F**k
Oh
Idk
3 hours?
just skip the story
mann this progression is ass
yeah i am gonna but i still need basic mechanics
Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup.
so SOME story is a must
But it's kuro.
What about me who's spent 4 hours on qu's chapter
DLT is extra orb
So just play them 1st
If you feel lacking, then get reso DLT
story skippers have no rights
They didn't have big bucks like now.
I read the story though
5yr old gacha game 
Story aint gonna help u with that, u dont learn much until you get SS units as a new player because until then most S ranks are dysfunctional
I'm still only 75% through
Base S no sig is like th copest of the cope
no like. i LITERALLY need to unlock mechanics
S units are like trial units, a teaser for what you could have
story doesn't even give you the best build an S rank could do
never forget S plume with no hanna in fake ascension
Base S, 4*
You can get that even if u skip
oooooh
this tho
i know im gonna skip
im skipping the story im just asking how long it would take to like rush it
And also cw not having cottie in her story
Several hours
idk, i got to chap 8 in like a day or so
but I also did a lot of other stuff so yeah
Not much just got ss3 wanshi
From beginning to end? That's like a good 1-3 hours give or take if u skip every single one
If ur reading though...
That's atleast 2 days
" I'll put some dirt in your eye"
Limbus would like to disagree 
Save for Lilith then
Not really. It's just. There's no point. It's always either niche/cliche stuff. It has an effect usually but it's not worth spending time. I'd rather they made a novel elsewhere than the game itself...cuz they make really rad cutscenes.
its a rite of passage
Mostly it's world building
not many are gonna force their eyes to read like they're on a pilgrimage....
I will
Ohh qu have mercy on me I don't wanna read the entire history of the world ffs
I get it Villier is a smart guy pleaseee i don't waanna REAAAAAD
Damn bruh after playing black bacon I've come to release how much of a blessing it is that you're guaranteed a new char every patch here
Why what's on bb
Shthole
Hot garbage
Dumpster fire
I could go til morning about all the char bugs the boss bugs the buff bugs
But ima just mention that their event banner is 70/30
@spiral merlin do you think sss feral is mandatory for swapping if nanami is sss? or nah
And don't even think about bringing genshin's god awful 50/50 at hard pity here
there r story recaps anw
most likely if not swap weather
as always test yourself tho
I love how an amp char there got her entire kit bugged and does absolutely nothing
Hows the pull economy tho?
Is it generous to bruteforce the 70/30?
On paper her amps are goated but noodle coding made it less useful than s0 cw
Nah the income is ass
I had to blaze through 4 chaps to get enough pulls
There are only 6 chaps rn
This shi is crazy
Daily weekly monthly gain is bad?
I love how the global version is released like 2 weeks b4 the cn version so that we can be their lab rats
LMAO
Yea no way Im playing black bacon then
It's only been a week since launch
Also no JP voice
Already brick in my eyes
Yeah give it another month at least cuz the bug report channel has 250+ reports lmfao
They have JP voice for one trailer tho
Like why? 
Wdym bro there is jp voice

I'm literally playing in jp
Isnt only EN and CN selectable?
I think thats what ppl sayin on day1
JP server only?
Or not
No I'm much better than this
Nah global
Ooh, ok. Dunno the YT stream I watch shows theres only EN and CN voice
Source?
Hold on
I think they added it like a day later?
Show proof
For some reason?
But with these many bugs, it kinda seems like another PGR 
Skip for me then
Comparing that slop fest to pgr is insulting bro
Ooo okay lmao
Guess on day1 there isnt
Probably ppl complaining
And they scared to lose player
Its a little bit undercooked but I was experimenting
Isnt pgr launch also bad?
PGR launch wasn't much better
Oh mb i wasn't there

Every kuro game faced hardship on release
Was gonna play pgr at launch
But heard its a mess
On EACH server btw 
So not just once
I have better pictures probably
Why is ur bacon all broken up
Pardon my language but wtf am I looking at here
Then I give up and keep playing Arknights 
Lol
Wait this was my first time cooking it let me find a more recent image
@dawn cloak the story is kinda interesting actually
Unlike how slow pgr starts, bb opens with one of our acquaintances dying 
I have like 5000 images im not gonna bother just take my word for it that I've gotten better
I guess they learned well
Theyre ex-pgr early devs after all
I'm not gonna spoil too much but basically we got familiarized with this 1 character for no more than 2 secs and she's already dead
Pls trust
Rent me as a chef
LOL
How is that better tho?
Oke but I still don't know what it's supposed to be lol
Uhhh it's exciting?
I guess the story telling
Rather than the story itself
It's broken up bacon
It's animated (a bit) with full va btw
Thats like almost all famous gacha no?
Climax from the start type of story?
Idk why it's broken
Yea they got the budget alr
Did you check up on it to make sure it was fine
Unlike us lmao
No rice
1/10

~~ pgr isnt famous frfr ~~ 
Ngl it keeps at 1mill download from 2020 until 2024 lmao
Only recently 2025 it became 5mill download lol
ZZZ didn't start with much at stake too
Im talking about the story
only on glb. china has like 90% of all pgr audience
Out of all china tho??
If we wanna talk percentage
Yknow what's funny about this one unit in bb
She's supposed to be a healer and off field dps hybrid
just look how many people in legend on chinese server and on the rest. and there're several cn servers, not only 1
Ooh dunno then. I only watch the jp stream and the idea is genius af imo
Turns out her heal is ass and locked behind her sig
While there's already a 4 star healer that heals triples this 5star
No sig btw
No I mean out of all china, how famous is PGR?
Cant speak number, china has massive population already
Meta looks like a mess
Ez skip then.
i checked some chinese market app several months ago and iirc pgr was on 20-25th place. but again, there're more than one market apps in china
Yea so PGR has always been on the niche side, among the famous one
Still famous in general
But not as big as arknights, or maybe even R1999.
WuWa is their biggest breakthrough ngl
In terms of business success side
but kuro somehow could grab $150 mln for wuwa development 
and pgr was their only game that time
Borrowing money exist
tencent
Gaming
Thats from before or only after?
I know after playing PGR, this game adheres to CN gov regulations alot much
Than any other famous gacha games
R2 SS ishmael would be a better amplifier than 2s Ayla or 2s feral both with no sig, for their respective teams right? since it's not like their QTEs even do that much dmg to begin with
is one significantly better than the other ?
Nanami biggest buff to self
Lucia cub is mainly because hers buff both fire and plasmabeam element
I think most ppl pulling nanami cub 1st
thanks 🙏
I dont have the knowledge, sorry 
Only have this #📨・meta-help message
When is alisa leap yall
in my opinion, it should be since I barely even notice my Ayla's qte dmg. Take it with a grain of salt bcs I dont have the knowledge
Selena patch
Next to next patch
Noice
Yeah I feel like she'd be better...18% increase atk from the R2...and 10% more elemental dmg cause of the sig....and I'll have harmony on the sig too
Who is the best 4 star healer?
woah didn't know Alisa gets a leap...is it good?
Id say teddy
Im getting close to getting my first limited s rank!
A rank? Teddy for now
Thx
Glacio leap

Nanami chaaan
boooorinnggg...okay nice I guess
It's absolutely goated
Her glacio leap is insane
Do you not see this img? 
#📨・meta-help message
Hi....can you give me the picture of thunder team single nanami with luna and ayla qte....?
up till now all affix leaps SUCKED...I hope this one is better
@ripe stag
Ezra ded 
I see....sorry....
wait so does this mean that glacio is the best team for f2p investment?
I'm pretty sure he posted his lightning phantom pain cage runs on his Shi-Yori youtube account
EN doesnt read strikes again 
Saying glacio is bad
I already linked the img twice
Its all depends on each element still
cuz I heard ion was strongest team in cn
Pretty sure off ele with glacio wont give better score
At sss+ whale invest
Don't judge me I know nothing about CN 😔
all I know is what we have rn and all affix leaps have been sub par
There were other choices if i don't have gloria or samantha right.....? Were they einstenia.....and.....
I'll post again. Fk it
What did you not understand from it 
Chinese

why is empyrea being used for the fire team? is this not updated to vera patch?
This whale S+ maxed
Not yet.
haha thanks
Hi...when will this very kind and precious ezra be available....?
I don't understand what the subs are but....

Chinese
Chinese
Never know picture doesnt trancend language barrier 
ts is so cooked 💀

TS = True Shieeet
Just kidding
It's way past midnight for him, come back tomorrow

Ah....timezone....sorry....
He's sleeping
Mandatory brick
You bricked cause your fish isn’t s+
Fasssssshhhhhheeeeeeeeeesees

Help unbricked
By feesh giveaway 
Fish Tsu, the art of Fishing
It's just i have to do cradle ppc....but i don't have gloria and samantha....i forgot what the alternative memorias were.....
so everyone in cn owns 3s r2/3 amps 
Too late all my money already went into the 340 rc I’ve spent


Anybody else has an idea......?
wait how do u not have them, do u not have 5 star memory shards?
I didn't even know they were 5*
They were probably scrapped in 2020...
Why need 5 star when u have 6 star
u can now buy 5 star mem shards in the simulated battlefield shop
passives
@raw swift just use those to buy the samantha and gloria memos
What is that.....?
Gloria. Samantha.
A permanent mode. Look in your battle tabs.
I know

Tired not wanna be serious so being stupid
No need anyway
Its bricks hour 
🧱 🧱 🧱
🧱 🧱 🧱 I love bricks
Thank you so much.....
Einstenia gives different effect with Gloria....?
iirc, Eins is mostly better than Gloria but using both gives more shred + stated effects.
yeah they stack together iirc
But why's this picture showing this.....?
You're using a dv memory that you previously set a hypertune to another character.
Ah....so....einstenia...memory effect still belongs to Luna once the memory is harmonised.....Although luna's not using it....?
Use 4 Cleopatra. Luna is not a complete qte bot.
yup, the 2pc effect still applies
4 cleo, 2 eins, and 2 gloria will work well.
I have to use her in field too...?
I have seen someone use her with dv for a nanami ppc clear and it worked pretty well, pretty niche scenario ig
how's wanshi's dmg output at sss compared to ss0 qu?
She's an in field character. Mostly for dps and buff/debuff convertion.
ss0 qu becomes sub-dps at that point imo
Although It's for cradle ppc....?
main dps or sub dps doesn't matter in that team for wz
so how many rots on wanshi b4 swapping off?
Probably using Luna as QTE and convertions.
you're not going to change how you play either
The pro is here. Help.
they're just both the dps
wb for ppc? do i just drop qu for like another amp or something?
Who all are you using?
Just like SS cw with sss nanaknight
i tend to use my sss r1 wanshi over ss0 qu for ppc
Nanami.....cradle....and luna.....
Wym you're using Cradle?
who do you use for 3rd slot for knight/chaos?
Sorry.....i did mean Feral.....
i actually didn't use qu at all this week lol
Oh. QTE should be feral.
wanshi's third slot was himself 
So should i get qu?
idk what the context of this is
I have Wanshi ss, ayla s, and Luna ss.
free selector? pulling arrival? something else?
Just in general for ice.
like where are you getting her from
Maybe free selector.
the standard? or the selena patch one?
yeah so basically qu is only worth putting in the team at that point if its for ice wz huh
This next one.
this channel never rests, jezz!
so standard then
Standard banner.
are you missinga nyone else
well no you'll use her for ppc too if ib or for tanky boi like emperor
but there's nothing crazy like that this week
yeah makes sense
for fast kill sss wanshi > ss qu
Damn.
i just did wanshi with kaleido and hypnos for black shark and it was just
ult1 each diff
11/13/13 smth i think
Sync patch actually makes it more alive 
So....i have to harmonise luna.....with einstenia...and use 4 davinci with gloria....? while feral wirh 4 guinevere with 2 samantha....? Feral doesn't neee Da Vinci at al.....?
i think I got pretty similar results 
I might pull Wanshi next patch.
what builds for ayla/hypnos?
but he's free?????
it's fine then i suppose, you can get qu, but i do still want you to consider that selena patch has a free selector that goes up to qu
Ik. I have him SS already.
Yes, that way you can take advantage of 3 sets of memory support: 4 DV, 2 Gloria 2 Einsteina
While with a Lightning character you could only use 4 DV 2 Einsteina
bruh just use vouchers then
That's blue tix?
no like literally free
unfortunately couldnt save the runs since I needed wanshi for lilith boos (no dark dps 🧱 )
Saving that for Lilith.
an actual free selector item
pulling a copy only worth if it's the first copy before you use shards.
bro gotta be swimming in bc then
Oh, I'll wait for that then and focus sss wanshi.
hypnos 4dv 2eins
ayla 4guin 2glo
(i have 5* on both)
in the video they used 2 lantern instead of 2 gloria, didnt even know that memo set existed
Oh lantern user 
requires double qte on ayla for 4guin, which there isn't enough time for on knight, so you could do 2guin 2glo 2sam for knight if you wanted, but it kinda just dies anyway so
Lantern rights 
What does this mean.
apparently its an old limited time 5* memory set
Old player
Lmfao.
Memories were given as gifts during Chinese New Year, I think they were only given for two consecutive Chinese years
Which is better atk or dmg inc.
- DEF/Phys DEF Down(only up to 100%)
- Physical Resist Down
- Extra DMG Reduction Down
- Crit DMG
- Extra DMG Boost (EDB)
- Base DMG % Up
- ATK % Up
- Final ATK Up (Cub ATK Boost)
- Elemental Resist Down
- Extra DMG Reduction Down
- Extra DMG Boost (EDB)
- Elemental DMG % Up
- Base DMG % Up
- ATK % Up
- Final ATK Up (Cub ATK Boost)
I didn't know the bot had this command
Ong.
- Lucia: Pyroath
- Selena: Pianissimo
- Ishmael: Parhelion
- Nanami: Startrail
- Hanying: Solacetune
- Vera: Geivaror
by and far the best new command
those equivalences can shift a LOT depending on the character
Yes but qol because it gets asked for the 999th time here 
it doesn't really make sense to have a generic ordering like that
i will never hit 1.85 mil 
And the role ig

like i remember when me and magma and aether were theorycrafting teddy dps optimizations
You can do it.
and we concluded that teddy actually wanted atk more than edb and dark dmg
cuz her edb and dark% are so inflated
my acc is prob good enough, but i am skill issue
Yes
Main Sub-DPS Set
Main Sub-DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Sub-DPS set all ranks, used in Solacetune team as secondary dps after Solacetune.
Side Note: For SSS rank and higher Stigmata, the recommended Harmony set for the Sub-DPS build is Darwin.
4x Charlotte
2x Catherine
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
Signa

what u need to hit 1.85 mil is 3s r2 amp 
yeah like ss3 ishmael over ss3 nanami is weird considering nana is meta in two (eventually 3 teams) in CN while ishmael is only meta in one. even if it allows her to rotate better, I dont really get it tbh
speaking of balter, phys dmg is worth way less on her than ele dmg on other chars cause phys team's phys dmg% buffs are crazy high
This week is some ass
i have a few of those
👀
i was talking about the other list
Explore the 61 characters of Seltonik from the North America server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
the stat priorities
dam. just practice then u will do it ez clap
anyway i do actually agree with ish ss3 over nanami
only 2 of those teams exist rn and she's only main dps in one of them, and her ss3 is less of a gain than ish's is to that one team
my score 💀
Ill ish SS3 after i SSS Lilith
Slash Sub-DPS Set
Slash DPS
Warzone, Intensive Battle
Requires Leap
Slash Team Sub-DPS
4x Patton
2x Catherine
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
None
I have Balter on ult reso.
im not even gonna try to argue since I dont know what ish SS3 does apart from extra shred and buffs lmao 
ill just take ur word for it
i heard she can 4 ults with that SS3
ah fk
in one rot
i forgot it did this

holy wall of text loool
anyway her rotation completely changes
she gets to do way more attacks
nanami's ss3 is just bigger numbers
hmm I see, kinda like pyro ss3 then
well no
cause pyro ss3 is also rotation changing LOL
idk where you got the idea to compare those
pryoath ss3 absolutely changes her rot 
nanami ss3 is more like qu
yeah I mean, ish ss3 and pyro ss3 are similar in that regard
I was referencing those 2 
yeah yeah
Fire scores boutta boom with this
fwiw nanami ss3 should actually be extremely relevant if burn team actually starts existing
cause it stacks a lot faster, so perhaps the same utility to that team as hanying ss3 is to ts
but...well, it doesn't exist, so
now have a debate on oatmeal and ishmael 
Sir, get off my airline.


RISE BLOSSOMS OF DAWN
Except trueslash exist but the score is....... 
A waste of tix.
hopefully burn will actually be decent 
what she do to u?
everything
as in, everything thats bad?
Ask yourself
Hows Hanying gameplay been treating you? 
Even with ss3 r1 one mistake on each first rot will ruin my run
hanying poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and delivered a plague unto our houses
Allegedly
Me with qu
eeeeeh, I guess not that bad 
you're mad bc you're missing invest
but no amount of invest fixes hanying's issues
what issues especifically (apart from being physical)
her inputs are unresponsive, she has absolutely no flexibility in her playstyle nor qte usage, her dmg distribution is completely cancer
and she's kinda fkn WEAK
We're forced to pull hanying because Selena 
For damage distribution what's the best kind
idrk abt that first part, but the other stuff I can see
Her orbs are a pain to ping especially in ppc
Do Lilith or ish need dlt?
imo, the best is something like luna ult2
two strong ticks of dmg with enough gap in-between for a wave to spawn
it's sooooooo nice
Both
I had to put 500 electricity on the phys team while also borrowing an ss3 hanying with sig and harmony r1 and even then she was still ass
So like CW's... But relevant amounts of damage, got it
really? how so? never had an issue with that myself
Meanwhile nanami with 5 star weapons and no electricity can clap lilith
well no not really
cause cw's highest peak is on the slam which is before the ult
so you're actually likelier to overkill with the slam and then underkill with the ult

It's more so just a skill issue cause of her startup
luna's dmg distribution is nice cause hold atk, ult2 first tick, ult2 second tick, all are pretty strong nukes, and you can move your qte usage around as needed to focus on any of them
you can't do that on cw nor on hanying
oh u mean the initial animation she does when u swap her in?
It just throws me off sometimes she feels slower to tap the first orb than other units
I never felt that, I personally just dont like how its possible to tap her 2nd ult an extra time and lose ur orbs
for some reason they coded hanying's inputs with a buffer system, so if you're tapping one button it will eat the inputs on the others
if i am tapping ult i can't cast qtes, i have to actually wait awkwardly to cast qtes first before starting tap ults
similar case with blue orb, i can't go fluidly 3b qte tap at the same time, i have to slow my fingers down to do 3b, then qte, then taps
Maybe I'm stupid but how do I read this graph? Why is there ending 3 in there? And what to the diagonal arrows point at?
oh also we forgot to mention another part of why hanying sucks
the fact that matrix at the wrong time bricks her whole rot, AND SHE HAS AN AUTODODGE THAT AUTO MATRIXES YOU
waaaaat the faq
Dudes crashin' out. 💀
just another friday evening hanying rant
IT'S SO ANNOYING
hanying just sux
I COULD HAVE SAVED SO MUCH TIME
how come I never noticed that lmao 
i'm really surprised that you havne't, it's on yellow orb, it causes so many restarts
I have no issues with hanying whatsoever…
ig I never malded enough with hanying to hate her this much lol
From what I've noticed it's better if she automatrixes after you're finished pinging your blue orbs
you do that in order of left to right, top to bottom
and yes, you need to do 2 runs for that ending the 1st time you are doing it
cuz u dont mald enough
Phys really needs selena
I’ve wheled hanying so much to the point I have no issues with her
well yeah but autododge is on yellow
Oh. Interesting, thanks
I think its intentional decision because shes dancer with that guitar (pipa)
They goin with musical tempo theme, so need to get rythmic is what I feel after playing Hanying.
oooooh that, i just never got attacked while doing it so I didnt see it
so if you're pinging yellows it's before your blues
Aha, phys and ts wz next week 

nah thats reaching
sounds like copium tbh
What am I supposed to feel frustrated with, in using her?
i wrote out all my reasons above
i like hanying's design and concept, but the little icks in her gameplay ruins what could have been a great unit
What copium?
Thats how it feels playing her
plus the automatrix cuckery
I mald with ice more than phys
Does it apply to all investment ranks?
yes that's how the convo began

Phys I just cope with whatever I get from onetap
invest does not fix these issues
Same tbh
phys doomed forever
Phys float 
What about selena?
ice is fluid ever since u didnt have to cope with solo qu
the only ick with ice is being interrupted
ice was fluid with solo qu too
Idk I dont think it justifies her being this clunky, maybe a more elaborate ryhthm system would be better, not just some weird hidden input stuff
you don't get staggered if you know how to play
Bears.
on qu at least
NO
learn how to do dodge cancels and you will never get staggered again
well yea the ick with solo qu was more with just orb rng
i mean it kinda still happens
orb rng shouldn't happen anymore if you have dlt at least
but less now
I've never experienced problems with qu tho, managing the staggers wasn't too hard
i hate shukra
hate shukra
hate shukra
hate shukra 
Funny enough, i didn't run into it with this weeks ice.
whhhhaaa, the bears didnt annoy u?
My point is the coding isnt accidental
Its intentional design
Because no other unit feels like that.
With fast enough rots and strong wanshi, i wasn't taking chances.
I even malded to third place.
intentional or not, does it matter, she's ass to play 
Gotta learn wanshi double rot, it's helpful.
Yah I’m stuck at 5+m don’t know how to get 7
ngl shukra is the first unit i malded with and 3s'd so i cant deny i actually like how she plays after all
mine is that if shes meant to be different from other units, they would have done so in a less discrete manner, like a ryhthm mini-game for her rotation or smth like that, thus I dont think its intentional
Hi...is qu shuka...still useful....?
I feel like hanying just lacks damage
Either mald, accept demotion, or see what you can improve on your frames (characters).
True. Kuro done goof in that im not denying
I myself regret pulling Hanying as newbie
She done nothing to help the newbie me 
Luckily plasma and lightning will retain me
hmm I see, I had to do solo wanshi so I couldnt escape the mald
Thats on Selena I think 
Enjoy
And new WuWa unit
She's still meta and decently far away from being powercrept
I think I'm getting promoted to legend or something. Hopefully i don't have those zones. 😭
So....everyone has been feeling the same...?
I used Ayla, Wanshi, Luna.
leeeeets goooo ( I suck at ryhthm games Im so cooked)
hanying is still undeniably necessary to have
I’ve been retaining for 4 weeks already. Maybe see you next week
this conversation isn't so delusional that you should be telling people otherwise
she's meta and necessary. she just also has a lot of problems
that make her feel really bad to play
"Decently far away from being powercrept"
Shame
wait Luna? what score did u get? I used A-rank wanshi instead
Lamia....wanatabe...and Qu are the last generation 2 standind....yes....?
Ye
I'm in NA. currently, I'm looking at two people above me; Aliez and Synthetik.

Yes but I can get her from other source, like maybe the blue banner reset, or the special banner on ish patch, cuz physical only have shapes after new Selena for newbie anyway
Is what I feel
Bruh you don't have her 
I mean my team was Wanshi (S-rank), Ayla and Wanshi (A-rank)
@crystal breach
Randall you actually have 80k bc
I spent full 60 pulls bro 
And lowkey kinda regret
There is no way
the screen looks so empty
That’s cute
oh wait u are in leader nvm, the comparision is worthless
Told you, lmao.
Don't tell me u used fate?
all wz should have 3 nodes real
What rank do i get more zones?
hero and above
I thought u had some hidden tech with Luna or smth, mb 
Hero and legend
I'm in third place rn. Hope i keep it.
Im so cooked
U in leader?
Nah, i was motivated and determined.
Hanying is bad.....but it's still the best physcal damage now just because anyone else has no functions anymore....yes...? I wonder why is physical team very left behind...until the new Selena....?
i have been malding ice wz for so long with so little improvement Im willing to take any suggestion atp 😭
even with selena phys is doomed
Phys was alive?
phys is just fundamentally doomed because of the def and crit mechanics
...really....?
....why
Float harder
Are we supposed to 2 rotation wanshi or focus on qu this wz?
wanshi is 2 or 3 rots
no idea, I only have wanshi
3? Feels like a drop in dps for 3 wanshi
nope
I see....i always feel the same...
relatable
you can fit 3 rots into your swap timer
wait so def stats only matter for phys?
correct
Do you do like an 18 30 12 wanshi?
Spin + snipe + snipe?
whhhhhat. the. fk.
that is one option for 3 rot yes
Phys score gets big buff after Selena iirc
But gameplay still bad 
Da....
you can also do 18 30 6 which fits into sss swap timer, but you should be alternating with 2 rot the next swap if you want to maintain 30 stack buff on the next ult2
ofc, it all depends on how much dmg you actually need
omg so we are really playing hanying + a rhythm mini-game character in one team?
Look at the ss. ||i honestly don't know.||
I just spam all bullets f..
i dont think selena counts as a rhythm mini game character
Wdym you don't know💀
if you're confused just take this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnZpPkgpXws
0:00 Intro
0:22 Calibration (Gauge)
0:41 Ultimates
2:00 Stacks
2:55 Swapping Basics
3:20 Multirot Basics
3:51 Full Rotations
4:14 2 Rot (Double Ult Rotation)
4:50 3 Rot (Triple Ult Rotation)
5:21 Pros & Cons of SS 3 Rot
7:52 Pros & Cons of SSS 3 Rot
9:27 When to 3 Rot
I just started genuinely focusing rank on wz, man. 💀
☠️
i wouldnt know Im just going off whats being told, I havent seen her gameplay at all 




