📨・meta-help

[frozen creek]

Observer but you’d be playing her as tank in void team

[waxen vine]

what does that do?

[cyan pollen]

bruh i got alisa and now im stuck she seems to need her sig and harmonization

[waxen vine]

so observer is tank?

[frozen creek]

She fills in amp/tank role depending on what the team is missing

It’s tank or amp depending on what your team doesn’t have

[unborn hound]

depending if you have a another tank or amp she will change her class to what class is missing

[zenith kernel]

Do you have the old sig selector?

[waxen vine]

woah that is good

[unborn hound]

.

[waxen vine]

WAIT she changes her own class depending on what is missing?

[cyan pollen]

if youre talking about tonitrus then yeah

[zenith kernel]

Give that to her

[unborn hound]

that's why she is insane noobies or dudes that dont have their whole team filled

[zenith kernel]

And harmo it

[cyan pollen]

is it as good?

[peak crater]

Which one do you think is the best? I can only get one right now

[unborn hound]

yes

[frozen creek]

Nanami

[waxen vine]

so wait if i put together oblivion teddy and ishamel than ishamel changes into a tank?

[zenith kernel]

Damage wise no
But utility wise yes

[unborn hound]

she also works with other elements for example if i put her on ice she does 25% ice shred

[unborn hound]

yes

[zenith kernel]

What you want is 4dv 4 signa

[waxen vine]

wait that is a good amount of shred is it not?

[unborn hound]

if you put luna and wnshi she will change to amp

[zenith kernel]

Wrong tag

Brickscord

[frozen creek]

Not good enough to justify using her over wanshi

She also still has off element penalty

[unborn hound]

yes

[waxen vine]

wait ishamel is a God send construct she is basically what ever you need than

[frozen creek]

No matter what team you use her in her damage type will always be void

[hardy crater]

Wait she works for every element??

[waxen vine]

but she does that team element shred so that is good

[hardy crater]

Then why is she garbage without Luna?

[unborn hound]

her sig also increases her shred by 10% if tank and if she is amp her sig increases the buff damage by 10%

[zenith kernel]

For qte bot only
Her element is still void so she cant hold Einsteina

[hardy crater]

She should be the best tank/amp in the game if that's the case

[unborn hound]

yes

[unborn hound]

no

[waxen vine]

why she cant hold einsteina?

[frozen creek]

Luna is the only other void unit

[waxen vine]

so that is 35% shred than

[zenith kernel]

Her qte does void damage

[frozen creek]

Lunas class passive converts buffs and debuffs to be omni elemental

[zenith kernel]

She doest change element

[unborn hound]

she only does buffs and shred with different elements her damage is still nihil

[frozen creek]

Without Luna there’s no conversion and no buff to Ishmael

[waxen vine]

so where is the other element shred coming from?

[frozen creek]

Also every single unit in the game is rubbish without their team

It’s not exclusive to Ishmael

[cyan pollen]

is there a sheet or something that explains how QTE works

[frozen creek]

Pyroath without watanabe = terrible

[unborn hound]

i know this very well

i have no wata

[flint igloo]

She becomes the tank according to the amp's element and becomes amp according to tank's element. When she is without luna, she can't shred nihil or buff nihil. Luna converts her shred or buff into Omni elemental, hence if she is without luna she won't be doing good in nihil at all

[frozen creek]

But you’re new I’m guessing

[dapper skiff]

Just

[zenith kernel]

Her class change doesn't change her inherent element, it just makes her buff and debuff for certain elements depending on how she's placed
Ergo she still does void

[frozen creek]

If you’ve never had the opportunity to pull him there’s no issue

[unborn hound]

yeah i started in stars ensnared

[frozen creek]

That comes with time

[raw swift]

Just use Nonomi

[cyan pollen]

can i delete these?

[frozen creek]

You zaza

[raw swift]

U can replace them

[unborn hound]

i love every time ishmael is mentioned in this channel some minds get blown

[frozen creek]

I was wondering the same thing

[waxen vine]

okay but i dont understand does she or does she not do the team element shred like if she is in fire team does she does fire shred or no?

[dapper skiff]

Still better than solo pyro btw

[frozen creek]

Fund me s+

[cyan pollen]

no delete?

[orchid owl]

why is she?

[raw swift]

no just replace

[zenith kernel]

Azriel got 511w with it
3s nana though

[frozen creek]

Not better than solo cw

[frozen creek]

That’s good enough but with wata you’d be hitting 8m plus

[flint igloo]

Yes, you can atleast keep 1 chief assistant at once tho

[waxen vine]

bro dont go down that dark road that not you and i want to go to

[raw swift]

but am broke

[frozen creek]

3m is massive

[unborn hound]

yes

[cyan pollen]

how can i delete them

[zenith kernel]

She does
But her element doesn't become fire is the thing

[raw swift]

U know what else is massive?

[orchid owl]

I want to know

[flint igloo]

Let me open the game

[frozen creek]

You lying skin pulling whel

[cyan pollen]

okay sorry for bothering

[waxen vine]

okay her actual element does not change but she does that element damage so it works right

[orchid owl]

she looked better than empyrea so why is she brick

[zenith kernel]

To trigger einsteina for fire you need fire damage

[limber yoke]

did u see the vid i sent u

[waxen vine]

crimson weaves odachi?

[raw swift]

smh I didn't even pull for Tsubricki

[frozen creek]

[raw swift]

https://tenor.com/view/low-taper-fade-ninja-massive-the-meme-is-still-massive-yeah-no-massive-gif-9995754776955392143

[unborn hound]

also another good thing about ishmael is that the observer role keeps up with meta for example she gets lilith's 20% atk and damage buff class passive unlike older amps which are only 10%

[unborn hound]

yellow row

[zenith kernel]

No, her qte needs to deal fire damage
Correlation and causality

Qte does fire shred but doesn't do fire damage =no einsteina since effect of shred doesn't affect result of fire damage

[waxen vine]

i mean if you try to meassure it she is legit holding it with both her hand and its exceeding her body width so i would assume its massive

[zenith kernel]

Lemme check

[frozen creek]

That’s why harmo amp carry eins

[raw swift]

[hardy crater]

Guys would it be better to pull for a pyroath dupe or Nanami's sig?

[cyan pollen]

bruh its my first time ever running out of serup someone help

[frozen creek]

Taken from my account

[zenith kernel]

Actually resend

[unborn hound]

sig

[raw swift]

[waxen vine]

and what if i give her einstina?

[hardy crater]

Isn't ss3 her like the highest priority in the game?

[raw swift]

yea but as well as the low taper fade meme. It's still massive

Like so massive

[limber yoke]

https://youtu.be/V-Rh6g1RIZE?si=hqeOmZMERutUm5QP

[orchid owl]

sig is usually better but in case of nanami it's only a damage boost
maybe save for other character's weapon?

[zenith kernel]

Itll shred void and nothing else

[rare anvil]

whats the easiest char to do the challenges with on the trial of simulacrums event?

hanying?

[zenith kernel]

[unborn hound]

yes but wasting 15000bc on a copy isnt smart especially since startrail is the entire lightning team

[orchid owl]

yeah hanying, just hold shift to auto parry everything
you can also spam her orbs sometimes

[waxen vine]

okay sorry if i am being stupid right now but its like 4 in the morning so humor me on this does this mean her ability to change element for shred is than useless cus she does not actually do the shred?

[flint igloo]

I am sorry, now I added teddy as assistant and can't figure out how to remove now. Somebody help me too

[rare anvil]

"shift" being?

[orchid owl]

hold dodge my bad

[rare anvil]

sorry, im on mobile

[raw swift]

Invest?

[rare anvil]

do i literally have to do nothing else?

[hardy crater]

But after I get her, can I go pull for the dupe?

[orchid owl]

you might have to dodge manually, idk about that part but she will start floating and non-stop sending flying notes to the enemy

[cyan pollen]

dang im really sorry i got you into that its so annoying having to see more than 1 person

[unborn hound]

no you should save for ishmael or another character's sig

[rare anvil]

but veronica's perfect parries needs u to use different moves in order to do them each time, right? unless i got it wrong

[orchid owl]

yeah but hanying is still the easiest character to use

she has multi hit attacks mostly

[rare anvil]

well, alr thanks

[orchid owl]

you can also trigger her 1st ult and spam blue orbs + ba

[rare anvil]

whats the best buff for her btw?

the 3 u can choose with points

[orchid owl]

[rare anvil]

i c, alr thanks! that should be all

[orchid owl]

I don't think it matters too much, most buffs are either straight forward or too situational either way

[cyan pollen]

bro what am i missing

[zenith kernel]

She does do the shred
She just doesn't trigger the shred from Einsteina

Einsteina:does 15% shred from damage/Qte of the corresponding element
If the corresponding element damage is Ice it does ice but cannot do fire and vice vera
Her qte and damage is void irregardless of what she can shred via class passive hence she doesn't fit the criterion to activate einsteina for other elements besides void

[hardy crater]

I see, so that would mean after the weapon, I'm done pulling for this patch since I have pyroath's cub and sig then

[orchid owl]

lmao
how about cogs and weapon mats? maybe

[raw swift]

The 4 star material construct

[cyan pollen]

what even is that

[flint igloo]

Okay yes I figured it out, I will stream

[hardy crater]

So that means her overall shred would be less than an on-element tank right?

[unborn hound]

i only recommend ss3 her if you can gurantee ishmael but since ishmael is the best units for newbies maybe you should pull her sig also

[zenith kernel]

Lemme watch
Im gonna mald later so might need the reference

[limber yoke]

2.3
amps is 3.0

[waxen vine]

oh i get it now so what you trying to say is she cant benefit from einstina which is a 15% boost to her shred but since her original element is void einstina is gonna proc only void so with out the einstina she is gonna have 15% less shred being proc'ed by her passive that changes the element of the shred like ice or fire

[unborn hound]

@hardy crater here is how many tickets you get this patch https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r8iFS0PIB6KDwWg35MxwjZ0MBaIOjW1GYO5_qcvOYR4/edit?gid=1623362692#gid=1623362692

[zenith kernel]

Bingo
Unless she's SSS and they aren't she would always shred less
Which is the point
She isn't made to replace
Just be an alternative

[flint igloo]

And that's how @cyan pollen

[cyan pollen]

ohhhh tysm dude 🙏

how can anyone figure that out lol

[flint igloo]

Just tap and unselect the character

[hardy crater]

tbh I'm already in love with Ishmael and her insane visuals so I think I'll just save

[zenith kernel]

Righto

[cyan pollen]

tysm

[raw swift]

[cyan pollen]

aint gonna lie luna looks like a midnight snack with this background

[waxen vine]

but kurai tag 35 mentioned cus of her some skills she can proc 35% shred so is that not gonna be good enough of shred regardless of not having einstina

[raw swift]

this

[orchid owl]

he needs this tho

he be upgrading weapon

[raw swift]

oh sht

[orchid owl]

wait nvm

it's most definitely not a weapon

[cyan pollen]

it is...

[orchid owl]

[unborn hound]

also here is how many 1 time bc and tickets you get (these are permanent not tied to the patch kinda)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nNauBXGcHv_7AepLWBLo4ykl3V_EhxpK/edit?gid=224598720#gid=224598720

[cyan pollen]

ngl i forgot i just pressed a number with a 5 star on it and it was solved

[hardy crater]

I see, that makes her a must have for new players and even unstacked accounts, how's her damage dealing though?

[zenith kernel]

Damn, much better early bear placement imo
Eu has w5 bear which makes it annoying to chain from w5 /6 to 7 ult hit

[echo current]

[hardy crater]

Thanks so much bro

[zenith kernel]

She deals no damage on other teams
For void she deals alot of damage but needs Luna to comvert buffs for her

[echo current]

[waxen vine]

wait let me rephrase that @zenith kernel what kurai tag 35 mentioned is ishamel base has 25% shred but with her sig weapon she gets a boost of 15% shred that makes up 40% shred so my question is will this be good enough of shred to work with out einstina?

[echo current]

The game keeps refusing me wata cub grrrr

[zenith kernel]

She'd still deal no damage since she does void hence slotting her in outside solo is useless

[zenith kernel]

She does not have that much kek

Can somebody bring up ishmael class

[hardy crater]

Thanks a lot

[waxen vine]

oh so being on field she will be able to proc the other element but not as a qte bot is that what you trying to tell me?

[zenith kernel]

No
She literally only buffs and debuffs
She cannot do sht in other teams otherwise
Shes just a qte bot

[cyan pollen]

is it just me or english voice acting is bad

[waxen vine]

why this has to be confusing cus than whats the point of her to change element like its useless than

[unborn hound]

10%

[waxen vine]

base 10%?

[zenith kernel]

I like balter's EN VA

[unborn hound]

this she is just a qte bot

[zenith kernel]

15

[brave prism]

Hey, is thunderous research coming in the next patch?

[unborn hound]

her sig increases shred by 10%

[cyan pollen]

who yall talkinga bout

[zenith kernel]

It's 25 with sig+SS0

35 at SS3

[waxen vine]

oh so that is 25% with sig than

[waxen vine]

ah 25 with sig than

[unborn hound]

ishmael

[zenith kernel]

Somebody use celica to bring up her class
Can't do that on web for some reason

[formal void]

Nihao fine shyts

[unborn hound]

@waxen vine i messed up her shred 20% not 25

with sig it's 30%

[waxen vine]

dont worry bro it happens to all of us

[cyan pollen]

yall saying shes useless?

[unborn hound]

no

[formal void]

Ishmaels?

[unborn hound]

yes

[waxen vine]

oh that is the original % you told me so you were right behind

[formal void]

[unborn hound]

actually i might be triiping balls and messed up again

[formal void]

What’s wata/wanshi/nanamis shred with sig?

[unborn hound]

@zenith kernel

[waxen vine]

i'm just confused to what is the use of her passive of changing element shred if she cant proc that element damage

[quaint shore]

will we get another S rank selector on the basic banner, like a refresh of sorts?

[deft apex]

Yes, next patch

[waxen vine]

ishamel patch

[quaint shore]

Oh wow

[zenith kernel]

Use /class ishmael

[quaint shore]

I can get oblivion, so ill have the whole team, very based

[vale raft]

Ishmael: Parhelion

Skill - Class Passive (Lv. 18)

Observer

Gain different abilities based on the Observation Chronicle:

• When Tank: Attacks reduce the target's Extra DMG Reduction by 20.0% for 5s.
• When Amplifier: All switched-in members gain an extra 20.0% ATK and 20.0% Elemental DMG Bonus of Ishmael: Parhelion's element for 10s.
• When Other Elemental Amplifier: All switched-in members gain an extra 10.0% ATK and 10.0% Elemental DMG Bonus of Ishmael: Parhelion's element for 10s.

[zenith kernel]

Yeah 20

[unborn hound]

ok im not trpping balls

[formal void]

Is her dark amp passive higher cuz of lilith?

[waxen vine]

so 35 with sig

[unborn hound]

i should go to sleep

[deft apex]

20% is supposed to be fire/dark amp btw

[unborn hound]

no 30

her sig is only 10

[deft apex]

Thats just missing a word there

[waxen vine]

ah yeah its 10% from sig

[formal void]

So it’s only for the elements that have new gen amps?

[waxen vine]

wait so she does not change element for shred than

[deft apex]

Yes

[unborn hound]

no she does

[formal void]

Oh, kinda lame ngl

[zenith kernel]

Nope
She can't

[unborn hound]

.

[unborn hound]

wait wha

[waxen vine]

facepalm

[deft apex]

Not really? She'd be better than the current best amps for the respective element otherwise

[zenith kernel]

Nah
Class change for a specific element
Not element change

[deft apex]

Its what happened when cn got vera buffs before vera released lmao

[formal void]

Yea thats true, nvm what i said

[unborn hound]

yeah but she still shreds for that element?

[formal void]

Ye

[zenith kernel]

Yep but
She can't do that elements damage
Is the main issue here

[formal void]

Liv got early powercreep

[formal void]

So will ish be better than s0 sigless daren for dark?

[waxen vine]

she has to be the amp of the element team to change element

[unborn hound]

that's amp

[waxen vine]

class does not mention changing element for shred

[deft apex]

Bro what's so hard to understand

[slate gull]

does the element even matter?

[formal void]

[waxen vine]

facepalm i dont know what is what vera chair says she does nto change element and even if she does she does not proc that element damage cus she is void but the class bot here says she does not change element for tank only for amp than kurai tag 35 shows other proof i'm like i dont understand what she does or does not

[unborn hound]

depends if you have her sig or ss3+

[formal void]

I’ll be getting ish’s sig

Probably not ss3 tho

[deft apex]

Brother

[unborn hound]

my proof is from the bot

[unborn hound]

innate bufs

[vale raft]

Ishmael: Parhelion

Epochal Authority ★★★★★★

Ubiquitous Full Moon

ATK increases by 10%. Upon casting Signature - Primordial True Form, immediately gain 3 Signal Orbs, up to 6 orbs per entry onto the field. The elemental resistance reduction/damage increase effects triggered by the Observation Chronicle increase by 10%.

ATK

436

CRIT

249

Keystaff

[unborn hound]

i love ishmael discourse

[deft apex]

Ishmael does not change element
She will ALWAYS deal nihil dmg, regardless of the element she is "observing" currently and applying the specific elemental debuff of said element she is observing

[unborn hound]

10%

[cyan pollen]

someone explain to me what this mode is

[unborn hound]

there isn't really something to explain you just do 1 blue 1 red and the boss and get guild currency to spend on mats

[waxen vine]

so if she is in ice team as ice tank she does ice shred debuff as qte ?

[deft apex]

Yes

[unborn hound]

YES

[vale raft]

Ishmael: Parhelion

Skill - SSS

Churning Wheel of Fate

Level 1 - Unlocked at SS3

Upon casting Afterglow of Worlds for the first time upon entering the battlefield, gain 180 Gravitational Collapse Points and a Mark of Collapse. Base DMG of Signature - Extinction Sentence increases by 60%. While the Incorporeal Inhibition Domain is active, every Phantom Abysm generates an extra 3 Signature Energy. Enhances the special abilities triggered based on the Observation Chronicle.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SSS

Gravitational Collapse Points' damage amplification effect increases by 50%. During the 5th hit of Phantom Abysm, you can input one 3-Ping to deal an additional 1000% Nihil DMG and gain 180 Gravitational Collapse Points. Enhances the special abilities triggered based on the Observation Chronicle. Base DMG efficiency increase against Equilibrium Fields increases to 150%.

Tank State
Fire: Unlocked at SS3: Scorching Invasion and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%.
Unlocked at SSS: Scorching Invasion and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%. Switch cooldown of all members in the team is reduced by 3s; this effect does not stack with others of the same type.
Ice: Unlocked at SS3: Frost Corrosion and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%.
Unlocked at SSS: Frost Corrosion and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%. Switch cooldown of all members in the team is reduced by 3s; this effect does not stack with others of the same type.

Lightning:Unlocked at SS3: Turbulence Interference and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%.
Unlocked at SSS: Turbulence Interference and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%. Switch cooldown of all members in the team is reduced by 3s; this effect does not stack with others of the same type.
Dark: Unlocked at SSS: Chain Fusion and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%.

Amplfier State
Fire: Unlocked at SSS: Amplifier Class Skill effect increases by 100%.
Ice: Unlocked at SSS: Amplifier Class Skill effect increases by 100%.
Lightning: Unlocked at SSS: Amplifier Class Skill effect increases by 100%.
Dark: Unlocked at SS3: Dark Radiation and Void Disintegration effects increase by 10%.
Unlocked at SSS: Dark Radiation and Void Disintegration effects increase by 10%. All member switch-ins reset the cooldown of QTE skills.

[deft apex]

But doesnt deal ice dmg

Only nihil

Hence her being a qte bot for every element for nihil itself

[vale raft]

Ishmael: Parhelion

Skill - QTE (Lv. 18)

Prayer for Refuge

Kicks the Keystaff at the target, dealing Nihil DMG. Triggers a special ability based on the Observation Chronicle after casting.

• Deals 600.0% Nihil DMG.
• Applies different effects depending on the Observation Chronicle.

**Tank State**

Fire: Applies the Scorching Invasion effect that reduces Fire Resistance by 15% and Collapse Singularity effect that reduces Nihil Resistance by 15% to targets hit for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Ice: Applies the Frost Corrosion effect that reduces Ice Resistance by 15% and Collapse Singularity effect that reduces Nihil Resistance by 15% to targets hit for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Lightning: Applies the Turbulence Interference effect that reduces Lightning Resistance by 15% and Collapse Singularity effect that reduces Nihil Resistance by 15% to targets hit for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Dark: Applies the Chain Fusion effect that reduces Dark Resistance by 15% and Collapse Singularity effect that reduces Nihil Resistance by 15% to targets hit for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

**Amplifier State**

Fire: Heals allies for 100% of ATK, grant the Fire Tempered effect that increases Fire DMG by 10% and the Disintegration effect that increases Nihil DMG by 10% to allies for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Ice: Heals allies for 100% of ATK, grant the Frost Crystal effect that increases Ice DMG by 10% and the Disintegration effect that increases Nihil DMG by 10% to allies for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Lightning: Heals allies for 100% of ATK, grant the ** Lightning Surge** effect that increases Lightning DMG by 10% and the Disintegration effect that increases Nihil DMG by 10% to allies for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Dark: Heals allies for 100% of ATK, grant the Dark Radiation effect that increases Dark DMG by 10% and the Disintegration effect that increases Nihil DMG by 10% to allies for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

[waxen vine]

That is what i was trying to ask this whole time vera chair been rolling me around like bro

[formal void]

So, would lilith ishmael and teddy(?) be a good cope dark team, I don’t have lamia and my daren is ass

[zenith kernel]

@waxen vine

[unborn hound]

no

[zenith kernel]

Here you go

[slate gull]

is she still a QTE bot at 3S?

[unborn hound]

because 2 amps she wontt get a class

[unborn hound]

yes

[formal void]

won’t she get tank class?

[slate gull]

is her nihil damage like non existent at all? lol

why we even pulling her then?

[formal void]

Better than luna

[unborn hound]

because she will do damage in nihil content

[waxen vine]

oh thanks so she does total of 30 shred but divides into 50% 15 to the said element she is observing and 15 to her own element

[formal void]

But thats 1 tank 1 amp and ishmael

[night locust]

Is weapon reso common? Or is it a whale-ish feature?

[unborn hound]

read the no class one

[cyan pollen]

what in the coating is this shi

[slate gull]

okay then she definitely isnt a QTE bot in nihil

[unborn hound]

yes

[zenith kernel]

25 still of corresponding shred if we add sig

The 20 in class is actually the normal tank class skill every tank has

[ruby minnow]

in void she's main dps

[formal void]

The “more than 1 tank/amp”?

[unborn hound]

yes

[slate gull]

alrighty

[formal void]

Is that not including her as one of the tanks/amps?

[vocal fulcrum]

are floating records playable in the main story?

[vocal fulcrum]

oh nvm found it

[vale raft]

Watanabe: Epitaph <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:tank:1290614106520555571><:fire_element:1290613867365273630>

Main Tank Set

Usage

Main Tank/Sub-DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
Requires DLT weapon resonance and Harmony.
Harmony Set (Requires Harmony on Signature 6 Weapon)*

Memories

4x Alphonse
2x Shakespeare
2x Shakespeare (Harmony)

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Red Orb
Bottom Slot: 6x Class Skill

[formal void]

Her og debut coating

[zenith kernel]

"+ sig"

15 base
10 sig
25 total

[waxen vine]

with sig her total shred is 30 right? so she than divides it 50 50 hence 15 15

nvm

[unborn hound]

you dont get pick what class she does, it depends on what teamates you put with her

[zenith kernel]

No
Qte says 15
Tank class passive is not elemental shred

[unborn hound]

if 2 amps or 2 tank she wont have a class

[formal void]

I know

[formal void]

Was that tested?

[hollow valve]

Does Memory placement matter? Like if I switch the memory 1,3 to 4,6 does it make an impact or anything

[unborn hound]

yes

[formal void]

Damn

[waxen vine]

so qte and being on field shred are two different instances?

[visual topaz]

not that much

[formal void]

So i’ll have to use laurel(?)

Or an attacker that isnt dark

[visual topaz]

placement can matter when building multiple sets to optimize cost/placements

or HT saving

[unborn hound]

rydle tested her #📨・meta-help message

#📨・meta-help message

[slate gull]

what class is ishmael most effective in off element? tank or amp?

[unborn hound]

yes

[slate gull]

im guessing amp?

[unborn hound]

it depends on what you're missing in those teams

[formal void]

Ooooh ok, ty

[formal void]

Tank i think

[visual topaz]

Example : you build 4 DV 2 Ein and 4 CJY 2 Ein
with minmax command they recommend having bottom DV and bottom CJY
and have top ein

HT wise you'd buy 6 mem worth of HT doing those 2 sets

if you revert it and have bottom Einsteina you have them share the 2P bottom slot + HT bottom 1p DV and 1P CJY

Result sightly less atk mem stat but you saved 2 HT worth of mem

[formal void]

Oh wait for off ele idk

[slate gull]

i think off element since she just turns into qte bot, no?

[formal void]

Qte bot laurel boutta go crazy

[slate gull]

i mean amp

[unborn hound]

@formal void

[unborn hound]

she is qte bot off element in both tank and amp

[hollow valve]

Ohh thanks for explaining

[formal void]

Alr, a support laurel would still be better than 2 team mates tho

[deft apex]

Yes? Why would that change, she still only deals nihil dmg

[visual topaz]

minmaxing atk stat only isn't necessary if it ends up costing too much hypertune as the ressource is hard timegated

[slate gull]

okay, so in dark team, she's better off replacing daren. is that right

[unborn hound]

ishmael discourse managed to distract me from my illness's pain nice

[formal void]

How good/bad is solo lilith?

[deft apex]

Runs out of orbs

[formal void]

[unborn hound]

what about with dlt

[deft apex]

.

[formal void]

My dark is lowk cooked

[unborn hound]

real and same

[onyx palm]

is rigor or stigmata better to run with alisa and hanying?

stigmata has no sig

[formal void]

Stigmata if ss or higher

[unborn hound]

there is the base banner selector next patch you could get lamia

[onyx palm]

even with no sig?

[formal void]

Rigor if stigmata is s

[formal void]

I think so

[onyx palm]

why?

[vale raft]

Hecate ★★★★★★

Deep Scar

CRIT DMG increases by 30%. Upon entering the Sword Form, immediately gains 20 stacks of Stigmata Will and activate the Resolution status.

ATK

471

CRIT

249

Swordstaff

[visual topaz]

doesn't change much

[formal void]

I kinda wanna use it for nana or han ss3

[visual topaz]

less ult stacks and crit dmg

doesn't change much of her gameplay

[formal void]

Her sig doesn’t add much other than harmo

[onyx palm]

what benefits does SS bring that makes stigmata worth bringing over rigor?

[visual topaz]

she does dmg compared to Rosetta

[formal void]

Lamia gonna be powercrept soon

[deft apex]

Ppc rigor, otherwise probably stig

[onyx palm]

does Rigor's qte not shred?

[visual topaz]

you have hanying

[unborn hound]

there is the selector in selena patch

[formal void]

Ss makes stigmata usable

[visual topaz]

just run catherine stigmata

[onyx palm]

don't think it's worth using my vouchers this late in the game

[formal void]

I was gonna use that for wata ss3

[onyx palm]

since she's gonna be replaced in a few months anyways

[onyx palm]

Is it a selector banner or an item?

[slate gull]

just wait then, stigmata isnt a priority

[formal void]

My dark will be garbage but my other teams will be thriving

[unborn hound]

item up to shukra

[onyx palm]

oh nice

[zenith thorn]

need her ss

[onyx palm]

yeah I'm gonna SS3 Wata then

[formal void]

I could use the blue banner reset for lamia that’s probably more wasteful than using the nana selector tho

I kinda just don’t care for lamia tho

[onyx palm]

blue banner reset for Pyroath SS3

[formal void]

And my dark rn is only 3 quarters as bad as a good team

[deft apex]

Selecting lamia while she's bordering getting replaced is crazy

[formal void]

I got it early

[deft apex]

• ss lilith would deal more dmg

[onyx palm]

nice

[onyx palm]

I got Startrail dupe early

[visual topaz]

wait who's actaully in the chopping block in cn

[formal void]

Yea that’s why ima cope with no lamia while getting ss3’s

[unborn hound]

dark tank?

[formal void]

Daren

[visual topaz]

Scire Kaleido Lost Lullaby and CW?

[slate gull]

maybe daren

[formal void]

Darens the oldest

[visual topaz]

ye

[unborn hound]

hopefully shukra

[visual topaz]

livespan i think Kaleido just behind

[formal void]

I thought you loved ice

[unborn hound]

i love wanshi

[formal void]

I’m hoping its daren then cw

[deft apex]

Scire kaleido cw

Feral, alisa and lamia are also quite old

[unborn hound]

also i wanna be reverse kurai

[deft apex]

But alisa just got a Leap, and cw a skin

[visual topaz]

hm

[slate gull]

damn, this synchro makes aging faster fr

[visual topaz]

cw getting benched anytime soon

[formal void]

They’ve probably got another 4-6 months if i had to guess

[deft apex]

6 months

[visual topaz]

happened to stigmata getting retirement skin

[onyx palm]

doesn't getting a leap usually mean they're dead soon?

[visual topaz]

then poof a few months later

[deft apex]

She's getting a skin on dmc collab though

[formal void]

Depends on how many free s ranks they give

[deft apex]

So that's 6+ months

[formal void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1275683059122966601.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=CatWater~1

[rocky wedge]

i have ss empy

[ruby minnow]

fr slandering snazz as whale

[deft apex]

R2 r3 is still crazy though

[formal void]

Ye, unfortunate side effect of catching up

[visual topaz]

When does sNazz try S+ trueslash

[ruby minnow]

fund him

[formal void]

I assume pyroath and nanami still have about 1.5-2 years

[river nymph]

[rocky wedge]

im f2p

https://tenor.com/view/powerful-head-slap-anime-death-tragic-gif-14358509

[formal void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/918317398745042965/1358887937009520815/tydkf.gif

[dapper skiff]

Damn

Can't see my score

[raw swift]

[dapper skiff]

*3

[formal void]

Washed

[formal void]

Even pyroath?

[dapper skiff]

Pyro need to get replaced both fire and ion entirely to be actually powercrept

Same nanami

Tank lasts for years

[formal void]

Well i guess the affix increases lifespans

[spiral merlin]

not balter tho lmao

[formal void]

Good point I didn’t think about affix

[dapper skiff]

We need a:

• new lightning attacker
• new lightning tank
• new ion tank
• new burn enabler/tank

To make Nanami out from the game

Entirely

[formal void]

Damn that’s more like 4 years

Unless another epitaph happens

[raw swift]

Oh I was gonna ask where trueslash dps, but then I realized oh u guys are talking about Nonomi

[spiral merlin]

new light tank and new ion tank are essentially the same unless another tank with the ion affix pops up

[formal void]

That makes me like affixes a little more

Ts is still ass tho

[deft apex]

New ion tank? Watch another alisa case

[jolly agate]

Alisa also leaped later 🥀💔🥀

[raw swift]

Alisa glaciation 🥀🥀

[formal void]

?

[raw swift]

wot

[formal void]

I don’t get the alisa reference

[deft apex]

She's cold

🥶

[raw swift]

bing chilling

[formal void]

🍦

[frozen creek]

crazy how we're calling lamia weak

tiem go by so quick

[deft apex]

Lilith already dealing more dmg at same invest

[raw swift]

[hasty bluff]

is there a way to harmonise a character without a 6 star wep?

[spiral merlin]

[river nymph]

[hasty bluff]

[spiral merlin]

no rights

[zenith thorn]

yeah by getting a 6★ weapon

[raw swift]

[dapper skiff]

So you're telling me wata leap will get an ion affix?

[hasty bluff]

nanami won't have harmony then ig

[dapper skiff]

[raw swift]

[hasty bluff]

[river nymph]

[deft apex]

You mean he isn't?

[topaz wren]

Guys how much better is Echo's sig over Bianca zero's sig I have Bianca's bow and I was wondering if I should get echo's sig tho

[deft apex]

That's common sense

[flint igloo]

Harmony is only exclusive to 6* weaps

[flint igloo]

No need

All you need echo's sig is for the harmony

Bianca's bow will do too

[hasty bluff]

Thanks for the info @flint igloo and @zenith thorn

[raw swift]

ur welcome

[river nymph]

someone should stream

[raw swift]

[worthy gulch]

You should

[river nymph]

i already streamed the past two days

[pure fern]

what harmony for nanaknight?

[midnight hinge]

QQ what teams do you find are most helpful in PPC

[raw swift]

heisen

[pure fern]

thanks

[cyan pollen]

can the max number be increased and how

[feral pollen]

lvl up ur acc

max is 240 serum

[raw swift]

dead chat

[onyx palm]

[raw swift]

it's Joeover

eos is coming sooner than we thought

[livid lark]

nice

which boss?

[wispy robin]

filthy whels ruined eos plan

[fringe vapor]

I'm brand new, started today, it has a tutorial thing for beginners, I'm trying to complete a part of it but it doesn't get progression?

completed multiple character trial things but it never progresses past 1

[agile meteor]

recommendations?

[dapper skiff]

Lux

[tacit violet]

using ppc skulls should i get ss star trail or ss stigmata first

i have rest of phys team but no lightning however i want to use star trail with ss oblivion

[half cliff]

star rail

I think at this point it's better to invest in Hanying for phys team

since she's the newest out of the phys meta trio

[noble zinc]

Probably meant doing the whole thing well atleast try

[quaint shore]

if you were to pick between wata and oblivion sig, which one would you pick in a vacuum?

[noble zinc]

Depends on my current acc state

[quaint shore]

let's say you also have pyroath + sig

[noble zinc]

Ofc wata as of now cuz theres ishamel next patch

assuming newbies def won't have liv done

[quaint shore]

https://tenor.com/view/understandable-have-nice-day-have-a-great-day-have-a-good-day-nice-gif-20850110

[rare anvil]

would it be a bigger advantage to use dlt on watanabe so i can use 4p shake (he has his sig and ss, so does pyroath) or on nanami solo (sig + ss too)

wth, idk why i replied to that message

what in the actual world?????

[echo current]

Guys I have a weapon reso sitting around, should I save it for nanaknight weapon? Or use on the characters I have?

https://huaxu.app/ap/players/27812058/characters

[rare anvil]

i was looking through the old advices but wth

sorry for the ping citrom

[noble zinc]

Shakes wata with dlt always 1st prio

[rare anvil]

is it that big of a deal?

im using cottie atm

but no dlt

[noble zinc]

Diff is noticable with shakes

[echo current]

Do you have pyroath?

[rare anvil]

does it work on qtes too?

[rare anvil]

check the first message... but yes

ss+ sig

[noble zinc]

Shakes? Then yes

[echo current]

Cuz you only will really use cottie if hes the main dps

[rare anvil]

both

[echo current]

Switch to shakes

[rare anvil]

just to be sure, no chars in the near future needs dlt, right?

[noble zinc]

[spiral merlin]

[rare anvil]

just how many for u to send that message...

[echo current]

Everyone pretty much benefits from dlt lol

[rare anvil]

no, i mean "need"

[noble zinc]

[rare anvil]

like shukra for example

[noble zinc]

Needs dlt

[rare anvil]

shukra isnt even a thing without dlt, is she?

thats what i mean by need

[noble zinc]

You can use her with quick ult thing+ big ult well that's not that good

Leeme check wait
yes possible throughout the run

[echo current]

Is ishmael even orb hungry?

[rare anvil]

anyways
can u tell me the priority for the future chars that needs dlt in order?

[vale raft]

Ishmael: Parhelion <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:observer:1304039040944705567><:void_element:1285900049909284864><:disorder:1288089672718876787>

Main Support Sub-DPS Set

Usage

Support Sub-DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set
Can be used for both her Tank and Amplifier forms
This unit has not been released on Global yet. Please take these builds with a grain of salt as they are subject to change.

Memories

4x Sothoth
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

Cottie

[rare anvil]

like, wata > nanami and so on

[noble zinc]

I'm not that updated to cn sadly
But considering how it's been for the past few patches yes you better start saving usbs

[rare anvil]

i c
is nanami a need too?

like wata is

[spiral merlin]

if solo yes

[rare anvil]

noticeably so that is

[noble zinc]

Startrail solo needs dlt sitch not

[echo current]

She doesn't even need her sig but if you plan to use her on solo yes she needs dlt

[rare anvil]

who even is her duo anyways?

[feral pollen]

sss cw

[rare anvil]

oh.

[echo current]

Sss + leap cw

[rare anvil]

so... well if i use it on wata + startrail i'll have 20 fragments short of another dlt

is that acceptable to do?

[noble zinc]

Get the 68rc pass next patch

[rare anvil]

f2p

[noble zinc]

...

[echo current]

Is it the one the pack that gives feral's stuff?

[rare anvil]

wdym ...

[noble zinc]

Yes

[rare anvil]

livfish doesnt answer it

if u didnt know, norman defense gives usb fragments

if what u mean is where tf i got them from

but if not, what do u mean? @noble zinc

[noble zinc]

wait I never meant it like that it's just real rough for f2ps

[rare anvil]

yeah, it honestly is

especially vouchers wise

[rare anvil]

anyways, is it?

[sand laurel]

[noble zinc]

upto you if want high damages can go with shakes
Or use cottie for better gameplay experience
shakes wata is pain

[hasty bluff]

dalao

[rare anvil]

why is it pain exactly?

i honestly dont know how it changes his gameplay

[rare anvil]

dear lord ok thats a big rot

[zenith thorn]

4shake isn't that bad tho

[cerulean glade]

im getting so confused with pyroath's rotation, and i'm only just following key presses, so i'm not sure what's going on. after holding 2nd ult, i hold BA and nothing happens, so i can't go into the rest of the fire rotation. which part of the meter should i be looking at/what should it be? she's only base s rank if that's something important

[spiral merlin]

Instead of being 3 blaze min for ult it’s 3 and 5 for first and 2nd ult with shakes

[noble zinc]

Indeed high numbers always looks good

[zenith thorn]

can you send a vid?
i have a guess

you probably ran out of yellow gauge

that is required for the hold ba

the only way to diminsh was the hold ba
so you probably did 3r hold ba hold ult

instead of 3r ba hold ult

[cerulean glade]

yes i noticed after the 3r press BA i only had half a gauge

[spiral merlin]

Base s oh no

[cerulean glade]

do i need more copies to get this rotation smooth

[zenith thorn]

base S lucia?

[zenith thorn]

base S uses the ingame rotation

[sand laurel]

my lucia is S on my f2p account, is so

[zenith thorn]

ss have a more optimised rotation

[cerulean glade]

ah i just see guides saying <ss3 so i assumed

[zenith thorn]

yeah
they all assume you have ss at minimum

[spiral merlin]

Everyone assumes ss min because ss is free

[cerulean glade]

its a wip haha i'm short skulls

didn't grind v hard recently

[zenith thorn]

yeah don't worry
for the moment,just use the ingame rotation

[hollow valve]

What's Empyrea's build? Is it 4x Da Vinci and 2x Guin or 4x Da Vinci and 2x Eins

[zenith thorn]

4dv2ein
assuming wata is 4shakes

[cerulean glade]

is ss3 lucia or nanami more useful? i might be able to roll 2 copies of one

[zenith thorn]

ss3 lucia

[spiral merlin]

Lucia

[cerulean glade]

ok thx all

[sand laurel]

[noble zinc]

legend ion tomorrow with this

[foggy ridge]

forgot how good ss3 pyro is outside of qte nuke but its probably good

[spiral merlin]

Pretty much the best ss3 to get rn

[foggy ridge]

godspeed soldier 🫡

oh right i forgot its able to make ss3 rot possible :v

[still bolt]

Smoother rotation too apparently

[foggy ridge]

i keep forgetting about that bar regen

[rare anvil]

just to be sure, this is ss0, right?

[zenith thorn]

ye

[spiral merlin]

Wata shakes intrinsically remains the same

3+5 stack ult

can also be 4+5

[zenith thorn]

can we kill off 2rot already

[rare anvil]

i c
well, guess ill do dlt on wata and nanami and have 20 shards left for a leftover dlt then ig

[zenith thorn]

even after veta ss0 team still uses 2rot

[spiral merlin]

Or 3+6 or 4+6 even

My advice is just don’t worry about memorising a set rotation with wata and figure out smth that works for you

[rare anvil]

i didnt even know about the hold dodge into blaze orb triggers matrix lmao

so it was good to know regardless

[spiral merlin]

But that’s his main thing

[rare anvil]

i never bother to read the skills descriptions since the tutorial stages explain basically everything but if it does cover hold dodge into blaze orb i apparently just forgot

i knew about the blaze orb parrying triggers matrix tho

[spiral merlin]

It does cover that yes

[rare anvil]

yeah, i just forgot then

anyways, thanks! that should be all

[burnt sundial]

what is the method

[river nymph]

reddit strat

[frozen creek]

🍃

[burnt sundial]

...what?

[robust storm]

whats even this

[burnt sundial]

stellar witching hour leaderboards

im tryna farm the stages in the most efficient way possible

[robust storm]

oh that event

[formal void]

In cn

[river nymph]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PunishingGrayRaven/s/z5AmyrkkJa

[formal void]

Wait it does

[river nymph]

reddit strat

[formal void]

Might need to whel so i can 1 rot wata

[shy jackal]

Oh srs?

[spiral merlin]

ah yeah ss0 lucia now using shakes

never thought id see the day

[noble zinc]

[formal void]

I thought pyro and wata stayed the same?

And vera held dv

Did they change it?

[spiral merlin]

lucia shakes wata cottie

switcheroo

[river nymph]

[formal void]

For ss0?

[spiral merlin]

ye

[formal void]

Wadapak

[spiral merlin]

ss3 lucia stays cottie

[formal void]

Oh ok

So i stay cottie

Can you give builds for full ss3 team?

[spiral merlin]

everything the same

[river nymph]

[spiral merlin]

vera on normal amp support set

most standard team setup possible

kinda boring tbh

[formal void]

4Dv 2ein 2guin?

[spiral merlin]

ye

[formal void]

Alr

Ss fire seems weird

[rocky valley]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1358985139295621330/faster.gif

[formal void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/918317398745042965/1358887937009520815/tydkf.gif

[spiral merlin]

ss0 fire will actually be very balanced

[formal void]

Is whel fire balanced or nah?

[spiral merlin]

rn at high ranks its lucia sweep

[formal void]

In cn?

[spiral merlin]

and glb

[formal void]

Damn i want balanced fire

[spiral merlin]

you can assume vera and wata are about the same at ss0

[formal void]

[spiral merlin]

at ss3 both vera will pull ahead

[river nymph]

[gentle elm]

whats the average bp for a max lvl character? (s rank)

[spiral merlin]

at sss both i cant say but probably vera on top still

[frozen creek]

depends on ranks dependson resonance depends on harmony

[formal void]

What’s watas rot at ss3?

[frozen creek]

if you give that i can tell you

[river nymph]

[spiral merlin]

vera now has lucia aid so she appears to do more dmg tho

[formal void]

Like 6k

[gentle elm]

uhh idk 😭

[spiral merlin]

1 ult build as many stacks as you can

[frozen creek]

oh yeah and depends on memories and hypertunes how did i forget

[gentle elm]

ohh ok tyty

[spiral merlin]

oh wait ss3 no stacks beyond 3

[formal void]

Stacks?

[spiral merlin]

just do as many blazes as u can

[frozen creek]

a fully maxed unit can go all the way to 8.2k bp

[river nymph]

stacks

[formal void]

O

[frozen creek]

wait what

[vale raft]

Watanabe: Epitaph

Skill - SSS

Siege Break

Level 1 - Unlocked at SS3

Gains 1 Blaze Orb after casting Scorching Torrent. The effect of Watanabe: Epitaph's Scorching Invasion increases by 10%.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SSS

Acts faster when casting Thermal Erosion consecutively. Thermal Superconductivity can stack up to 6 times, and each stack's bonus on the Base DMG of Signature - Explosive Purge increases by 5%. After entering battle, the first successful Parry grants 1 extra Blaze Orb. The effect of Watanabe: Epitaph's Scorching Invasion increases by 10%. Reduces the cooldown of switching between characters by 3s.

[spiral merlin]

ss3 wata is locked to 3 stacks

sss brings it to 6

[frozen creek]

no way

[formal void]

So wata has a 1 ult rot, from what Ive seen vera is 2 and i assume pyro is slash eclipse slash still(?)

[frozen creek]

i didnt even know that

[spiral merlin]

Vera is 2?

[river nymph]

[frozen creek]

thats rightless

[formal void]

Maybe not

[spiral merlin]

She’s 2 slow ye

[formal void]

O

[spiral merlin]

sss can do 2 rota

[formal void]

I thought it might’ve been 2 first ulta

[spiral merlin]

It is

[formal void]

Oh the gameplay was probably sss

[spiral merlin]

Also look at u whel

Don’t even know the struggle the less fortunate are going thru

[formal void]

[spiral merlin]

Smh

[spiral merlin]

Probably

[river nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-vera-vera-garnet-garnet-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-gif-11497569589538725228

[still moat]

What if ss3 pyro 3S nanami 3S vera

[spiral merlin]

Pyro 2 vera 2

[still moat]

[spiral merlin]

Nanami she’s just forced in between them

[river nymph]

what if s+ pyro sss nanamech s vera

[still moat]

My dream team......

[spiral merlin]

Nothing u can do about that

[still moat]

So sad I can't use Ishmael with pyro and nanami together

[spiral merlin]

Find the 600rc button and give it a few dozen presses

[river nymph]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1358099919684243486.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=worry_tased

[formal void]

Wtf is that invest

[river nymph]

dont judge me

[spiral merlin]

Someone will run that you know

[formal void]

[spiral merlin]

I have no doubts that a wata skipper will run that exact team

[formal void]

Not even ss vera

[fringe vapor]

as a brand new player do I go after nanami startrail or Lycia Pyroath

[spiral merlin]

Both

[river nymph]

need to save skulls for dmc

[fringe vapor]

specific one before the other?

[formal void]

Spending skulls on a ranks smh

[spiral merlin]

Prolly nanami because tanks are far more important

[river nymph]

they will be s

dmc will be uniframes

[spiral merlin]

The atk debuff removal was all in preparation

Kuso playing the long game

[frozen creek]

take a screenshot of this

uniframe gonna become collab class

[river nymph]

[zenith thorn]

dmxii

[chrome sinew]

any suggestion who will be ss from PPC?

[zenith thorn]

pyroath

[river nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-lucia-pgr-lucia-lucia-pgr-punishing-gif-15059347772793680746

[chrome sinew]

Thanks

[spiral merlin]

i finished shapers ripples today

[river nymph]

[stray siren]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-fresh-cat-stare-judge-gif-10257283087416102403

[river nymph]

did you do vonn deathless?

[spiral merlin]

ye

[river nymph]

[spiral merlin]

it wasnt bad

[river nymph]

ok youre just too good

[spiral merlin]

oh definitely not

i just know how to abuse her kit lmfao

[stray siren]

Get nanami star rail, and SS her

[spiral merlin]

i did not play fair with vonn

[river nymph]

[stray siren]

Then ULTIMETO SPEKTAKURU YAAAAAAA all the outlier bosses, so you can rank up to SS Lucia and Wata

[chrome sinew]

Thats old screenshot i forgot, i have startrail

[stray siren]

So her, kill all the outlier bosses with her

[chrome sinew]

Okk

[stray siren]

[river nymph]

[agile meteor]

i noticed coop opened recently, i did the 21 fights so what now? im going to complete the levels once now since im done with 21 fights

[stray siren]

Idk, i never played coop

[normal sierra]

there is no point doing coop if you already done with your 21 runs for the week

[agile meteor]

aight

[tired dew]

hello chat does startrail nanami replace CW as the main dps in lightning team even at base S?

my CW is also only S rank but she has her sig weapon

[tropic sphinx]

yes

[tired dew]

cw now only a qte bot? :((

[stray siren]

U need CW at SSS to be a qte bot

[carmine reef]

S CW doesn't even deserve to be on the team

[tired dew]

zamn

[carmine reef]

Even in swap weather

Why is your CW S

[tropic sphinx]

use 2 amps. u don't wanna use her as qte bot either

[tired dew]

cuz i stopped playing the game temporarily💔💔

[solar pier]

Vergil dark atker

RIP lamia

[tropic sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-spin-sha-gif-26863370

[solar pier]

or cud be Lightning

and Dante fire

[normal sierra]

as if a cring B rank m*le could ever replace our dear fish

[river nymph]

[solar pier]

devil bros vs punishing h*es

[vital nova]

[solar pier]

how friendly

[spiral merlin]

wtf her ult just didnt come out

[river nymph]

[coarse maple]

I buy live shards right ? I know we can get stigmata from the wheel of fortune and I have crimson weave

[river nymph]

prob not

cuz vera soon

but i guess there isnt really a better alternative

[formal void]

Looks cool tho

Ayla?

[formal void]

Liv is power crept

[formal void]

Daren?

[spiral merlin]

ye im messing about with what to do if u dont have lucia for whatever reason

[formal void]

[river nymph]

yeah that’s prob the play

[formal void]

Does pyroath rot change for a full ss3 team?

[spiral merlin]

vera takes her sig set in this case since shes doing more than 1 rota

[spiral merlin]

yes but no

do slash eclipse only

essentialy cut off the part of her rota rn beyond eclipse

so its pretty much the same

just less

[formal void]

O ok

[spiral merlin]

or wait does ss3 do eclipse first

[formal void]

So you just skip the second hold ba and slash

[normal sierra]

it's the same but different

[spiral merlin]

idk how that would work

[spiral merlin]

exactly

[formal void]

I think it does slash eclipse slash

[spiral merlin]

then ye as i described

[formal void]

Unless i’m doing wrong rot

[spiral merlin]

i just remembered that ss3 takes longer to eclipse so i had to double check

[normal sierra]

and there's me who still doesn't know what the fruit slash or eclipse is

[spiral merlin]

hold ult and tap ult

[formal void]

Fruit?

[coarse maple]

Yeah okay but what I do I spend the shards on then

[normal sierra]

🥝 ?

[formal void]

Probably scire

[normal sierra]

[zenith thorn]

nooo dont kiwi ur so cute haha

[formal void]

Replacement f word?

[normal sierra]

see? you get it
using there what everyone is using boring

[formal void]

Ah

Slash is the hold ult eclipse is the tap ult hold ba tap ult

[past thicket]

isnt slash ecl slash only for sss0?

[formal void]

No?

I don’t think

[past thicket]

it goes waaay over amp buff timer
since sss0 has the mark upon basic atking u can get the first hold ult empowered

not saying that u cant do it but its not the most optimal

[formal void]

Oh

Isn’t the amp buff from qte?

[past thicket]

noh its after swapping

[normal sierra]

anyone got a hell shorthalt vid with 233 022 111 invest?

[past thicket]

why is pyro r0

[normal sierra]

cuz you didn't fund me

[formal void]

And ss0 with sss teammates

[normal sierra]

she's actually base S still btw

[formal void]

Wadapak

Bricked

[shy jackal]

Yeah, since that's the only option

Shard selectors from bp don't get updated so they won't have lilith

[normal sierra]

[formal void]

Wha..

[normal sierra]

not in the mood to learn their rota, so me just conveniently dump them into a dorm room and ignore them

[formal void]

Isn’t daren better since livs power crept

[formal void]

Casual whel

[rain anchor]

who to replace daren in flux

[still moat]

No one

If u don't have Daren u don't play ion, or u can cope on ion with solo nanami and get like 3m or so

[rain anchor]

oh ok

[frozen creek]

whel mentality

[rain anchor]

then ill play slash next week

[frozen creek]

you can just ba to beat ss score

[slate gull]

guys, is this gacha? is there a chance you can get the selector earlier? or you need to spend full 15kBC?

[lament walrus]

Why tf Shorthalt is so tanky

[lament walrus]

You can get it early iirc?

[nova forum]

[gaunt drift]

So on the Weapon banner that is the signature weapon does not have a time limit?

[slate gull]

yup. no time limit

[gaunt drift]

Nice

[spiral merlin]

solo vera lmao

[slate gull]

SS?

[spiral merlin]

yes

[brazen igloo]

can we check when our accounts was made or nah?

[slate gull]

does she outdamage wata?

[zenith kernel]

@limber yoke I'm gonna kiwi
Ahhhhh
My 600w

[spiral merlin]

no but its complicated

[broken elk]

they added a fck ton of hp

[karmic anvil]

Yes

[brazen igloo]

how

[karmic anvil]

Huaxu

[spiral merlin]

in a short burst of time, wata does better

[slate gull]

i saw Empress do 1 wata rot, and 2 vera rot. is that optimal and is that applicable for lower invest?

[limber yoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/842387273446326293.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=dalao

[slate gull]

i see

[limber yoke]

u can do it lao

[spiral merlin]

vera has far more capability to keep her dmg going over time and then she easily outdoes wata

ah i should say this is for low ranks

it seems like at high ranks vera outdps wata as expected

[broken elk]

my goat is washed 🥀

[slate gull]

alright

[spiral merlin]

vera in a full team rota also has lucias support

[zenith thorn]

sss only

[spiral merlin]

so she'll techincally do much more than wata there

and ye 2 rota vera is sss only

below that requires sig mem

[zenith thorn]

ss3 and below,wata still 2rot

[slate gull]

thanks

[pine slate]

so ss3 ish > ss0 vera?

[spiral merlin]

vera better

[pine slate]

[cold walrus]

Even if wata is ss0?

[zenith thorn]

i think so ye

keep in mind
im merely parroting

[frozen creek]

look at these whels deciding who to spendmaxx on first

[spiral merlin]

hmm

[pine slate]

why below sss vera 1 rot, she doesnt deal much dmg?

[frozen creek]

youll s+ all anyways

[pine slate]

cuz like

[spiral merlin]

idk abt 2 rota wata tbh

[pine slate]

wata's dmg is already fkin trash

[spiral merlin]

more like she cant

[pine slate]

ah nvm then

[spiral merlin]

2 rota way too slow

[pine slate]

[spiral merlin]

ye 2 rota wata is also slow

eats too much into swap cd

[zenith kernel]

Can't kill w24
It has 12hp even after 3 slash end so it's prob not possible to get your score without the same amount of reso

[frozen creek]

add leap

[zenith kernel]

Also zaza was better for me than normal SES

[pine slate]

time to cottie eins wata

[zenith kernel]

🗣️REPEAT THAT?!

[pine slate]

[frozen creek]

[brazen tangle]

How do i use pyroath in the simulation thingy when her full rotation needs 4 ultimates and we cant do more that 4

[cobalt oyster]

Guys 4 charlotte and 2 cottie is the best for bianca?

[zenith kernel]

No sig?
4 Charlotte 2 Catherine if you have Hanying
Otherwise sure you can use cottie

[cobalt oyster]

Uh i have hanying

So 2 cat

And what reso?

[zenith kernel]

Yep

[zenith kernel]

6 sig 6 attack
But it doesn't matter rn since Bianca is getting replaced soon

[cobalt oyster]

Who s replacing her?

[pine slate]

Just go straight to her eclipse ult ig?

[mighty tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-selena-punishing-gray-raven-selena-selena-pianissimo-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-gif-16587110661852168994

[pine slate]

Instead of doing fast ult

Or just use nanami

[cobalt oyster]

My bc r suffering rn

[pine slate]

Oh wait simulacrum nvm

Ok actually idek which mode ur talking about

[normal sierra]

"stylish" mode

[pine slate]

Just don't use ult then lmao

[normal sierra]

b-but "stylish mode so great, finally a mode where we can use all skills of our characters"

[pine slate]

[mighty tusk]

*incentivizes not moving
*incentivizes not using ult
*still rewards spamming the same move