#📨・meta-help
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nice, i usually just do 12 shot bullet ult on wanshi start, then swap to luna
i did not use that core passive talent/skill of vera, if you mean that. i did not equipp it on char screen
actually i want them to ease to to 4 ults and less as opposed to 2 and below
damn
alright I will try again
it boosts your score though
i know, but i think core passive should be included by default in a challenge
the video i sent you was just demonstration
is there much of a difference?
not a super skillful stylish flex on how high i can get 
wai, the main quyestion is
i could send you a reference run if you want
i think its fine as it, since you still need to learn the attack pattern.
the goal with that mode is to punish invincibilty gaming
and way less out of your way than spamming one move(asides from hanying)

another simulacrum w
mide def needs improvements ofc
like in the old PGR days we needed to pay attention to not get hit - now in all the WZ / PPC / norman runs we just spam ult with cottie and we just press our buttons as fast as we can
i don't even know what ballards moveset is
so what do i tell the peeps who yell at me that you can spam one move and get s+ 
"go ahead"?
it is alr harder to t=do that than to just play normally anyways
yes pls
and i completely ignored veronica's moveset too 
so can someone explain why that other guy got so mad at me 
well, if you play CW in simulacrum how most ppl are used to, you will get punished.
she just parries your big jump attack and you will get staggered, kek
So I am technically able to grab Wata's weapon since I have 3 weapons I don't use.. Lee's Noan's and Rosetta's should I or save for Nanami's?
This
I kinda wish I can experience that part of PGR.
But im just starting this late, oh well...
play simulacrum
i was getting super tired of cw then simulcrum dropped and made her fun again yata 
If its 6* , its better to use them as reso mats
we never use them otherwise
@mighty tusk so the conclusion is, yeah you can spam one move and get s+ but why not enjoy it 
Really? aight
ok i sent it in dms
exceot for hanying smh
it's going away next patch
so what's the point of optimizing
Wait, where is that?
Is it part of story?
fun?
hello everyone im back and here to announce that i decided that ill pull for shukra so then i get lucid dreamer and the pink haired one for free and have the full team

One extra 6* weapon can be used for one resonance
good job 
Also do full teams of the same element have a buff to them? or? why does everyone choose their teams by elements
i love that mode way too much, ngl
4 patton or 2 cath 2 signa on balter now?
Ah yea you mean just the stylish mode this time right?
What I mean is for all units and outside of the stylish mode
Part of why I like using A ranks and tried to do story with mid lvl A ranks are those
oh okay
a ranks arent all included quite yet 
yeah that mode is not really stylish mode, its "learn the attack pattern and never get hit while not dropping combo and not spamming ult" mode
Tempted to max reso Lucia's weapon...
this is the first run of the mode
do i call it skillful mode
i havent quite got a name for it cause "simulacrum" means like 5 different event modes in this game
I tried Bambi these past weeks and pretty fun for story stages
so true
bambi is quite fun 
once i learnt how to play her meta wise she becam slightly less fun 
Same as bridget 
Meta is just spamming lmao
am i about to turn into an meta gameplay hater cause of simulacrum 
2cath2signa
lmao i still like both, meta(warzone) for my optimisation and perfection kink and simulacrum for boss fights
and ppc just sucks alltogether
Endgame are mono element required
ik if i call simulacrum skillful mode the sweats will lynch me cause "its not that hard"

Buffs are according to their element usually
pgr: good bossfights edition
kinda like in tower of fantasy?
ill call it that
-> Should I though...
Yeah lol I asked how I can get those titles in a more easier way and all I got was "skill issue", I just wanted a little help like rotations maybe
@arctic lynx rather insightful and fun conversation thank you 
LMAO
With Oblivion, you can have lucid dream and the pink haired one as a team also
Luna Oblivion can use different element (non phys) as her teammate

Depends on who's answering you
if you have any questions, just ask
you wouldnt use rotation during simularum tho! ya gotta memorise that boss 
? no it doesnt all of you would do the exact same
You don't use rotations there
Memorise one skill, that's doable
whaat thats so cool tho then should i go for shukra or her?
myself included probably
Dunno I dont play that lmao
Endgame modes are either boost correct element dmg x2, or penalize wrong element dmg into 0.3 iirc
Oblivion obviously
Also there will be free S rank selector not too far where you can pick Shukra
thanks sorry for asking such stupid questions im just clueless
one? 
No its the correct place to asks questions
spam basic attacks while never using ult and never getting hit, memorize the attack patterns, thats basically it
there are no stupid questions so long as aether/dazzal/chaos arent online!
It's pretty easy tbh
haha get it, thats "basically it", because you only spam basic attacks, ha ha ha
LMAO
@ Dazzal @ Aethervoid
Ishmael for one has one of the slowest attacks getting SSS hell on her was extremely easy
a pgr player simply cant resist using ult at least once 
If only its like gen1 ult
Thats still stylish
lmao one of them has me blocked im immune
pls no
What did you even do to aether to have you get blocked
Barely had to try for her
Who lol
Aether gone to GFL2 tho
A clearly better go-n game
I TROLLED HIM A LITTLE FOR JUST LIKE 5 MINS AND HE WAS HAVING NONE OF IT
Not like pgr which still kinda looks confused as of now
what's that??
G--n frontlines 2 
he mustve been in a bad mood or i mustve been in the zone cause it did not take much for me to be blocked forever 
aether ofc 
dazzal tolerates me
I think I kinda enjoy pissing aether off
@mighty tusk remember that 1.6m 3s CW guy? 
rydle my goat

Wut happened?
no i got that score and it reminded me of em 
wtf
Wait that's yours right?
yea
You sss cw
i told u i would 
thats me 
Also imagine needing sss on boss zone just to rival fire in mob
reminder that i willingly ignored going for 3s daren
but i did 3s cw and am going to 3s balter as well
massive self brick 
K SSS4 CW
Imma aim for sss alisa
Lilith can stay at ss
need r3 for dlt as well 
ss4

me when i lie
also new fire rot is rllly good
i already got my old score first try
Oh with 3 6?
is it necessary to resonance supports memory?
It’s extra damage boost if you reso tank/amp class skills
i see, tysm
But for supports like Teddy, Rozen it’s useless
yar
first swap 3 > 3p >swap
2nd > 46 >swap
3rd onwards is 36> swap til last rot 4 > end
resonace on sig for lucia or luna or equal value
all this talk about simulacrum being easy or not and my brother cant even get ss 
Maybe the extra QTE proc helps a lot with Pyroath’s QTE damage + DV buff
Both want DLT to have smooth rotation but you can prioritise Pyroath
What is the good way to learn rotation for newbie?
practise and guides
I’m learning hyaying but keep failing 6obs 4 ult
Maybe mobile is not the way to go?
how about hypertuning it? is it necessary?
Lots of us play on mobiles
Practice a lot
If its about hard to press button, just customize your UI button placement
I see will try that. I’m counting while pressing the button but keep missing… count 6 but only press 5 lol
yup i play on pc and i feel like mobile is easier actually
more comfortable in a way
Originally made for mobile anyway
PC is the new port
I play on Mobile, there are things that cannot be done but that doesn't stop you from achieving very high scores
Wuwa also made for mobile but pc play is much smoother
Helep,serumku habis

Habis


No way, WuWa isnt for mobile 
Unreal engine isnt really mobile friendly
Its just Kuro is crazy skilled on optimization
PGR is this light
While similar one like Hi3 or AG is heavy
Brotha my wuwa update on mobile is 17 GIGS that is not for mobile
Most phone start at 128g
For the graphic I would say 17gb is small compared to other game
real, back when i play genshin it's around 25gb same with hsr and zzz
it's just the graphics is really heavy for some devices
For an update?
The game itself is 31 gb
Genshin is 32
Genshiet updates are like 30gigs bro 
And only unity
Wuwa is UE
Yes to everything
Ishmael save us
Why did they made Luna su fkng slippery like holy sht
Surely she makes it better 
I think there is one in pings
If there isn't, ask Fabio 
It’s always the bears
At least it isn't Alpha and her tendency of dodging and running to the corner of the map
I malded for like 2 hours just for me to get my ass rped by a bear or those spear guys 
7th kurai 
Why does S pyroath (not ss) feel so crappy to play like the bar barely fills and stuff comared to trial
Like luna at s still is funcitonally the same
Waza
True tho
Probably because we have so many things to do with her kit
Nebular Composition
Casting Incipient Retribution/Final Retribution, Signature - Finality, or Signature - Lunar Downfall will activate all available QTEs.
Casting Signature - Main Sequence or Signature - Finality will trigger Matrix if it is not on cooldown. In Main Sequence, every 10 Eclipse Points amplify the Base DMG of Incipient Retribution by 4%. When exiting the battlefield in Finality, the Chakram will attack once to deal 2000% Nihil DMG.
should i prioritize ss lucia over ss luna in ppc?

Of course why not
Pale Blade
Casting Basic Attack - Aura Blast / Basic Attack - Aura Dance / Signature - Crowd Slash/Signature - Eclipse Daybreak will activate all available QTEs.
Gains a 25% Extra DMG Bonus during the Fire Thunder Form or when airborne. Immediately gains 120 Aura Value upon becoming airborne. When exiting the battlefield after casting Signature: Eclipse Daybreak, Lucia will enter the Flickering Ember status and launch an attack at nearby enemies every 2s, dealing 4000% Fire DMG. Lucia will exit the Flickering Ember status after 4 attacks.
nah this must still be phys for sure, doing ts moves did very little dmg
Yes
Unless you wanna do sword rain 4 times for the eclipse ult 
O_O
theres only one for derived matrix and tundra 
Idk if you can pre farm the golden gauge tho
Only if they go on field as DPS, otherwise don’t waste HT mats
But if i don’t ht my feral’s dv her bp will be low
Try on search if someone has asked for it and got replied
Yea I'm still not used to trueslash rot
wats the sword rain move? Also is it just me or am i unable to spam red orb after first hold ult
I might use phy for next week's mixed zone instead of trueslasg
do difficulties matter when achievement hunting?
Yata is a DPS?!
well, a cope dps if u don't have cw
But Nanaknight will be coming anyways so... 
For one day 
Basic atk during empty gauge on eclipse ult
i love liv shes so cunty

She does forward and summons 4 swords at the enemy
But it's slower than Luna's hold atk without gauge 
But but...Yata is attacker...
Nana can't be better than her, she's just a filthy no dmg tank...
Oh ur right mb... Let me just Yata solo 

how do I do fire wz without liv
Who needs Nanaknight when I can have Yata as the main damage dealer anyways 
i have ss0 wata and pyroath with reso but no liv
does she outdamge noctis tho?
What difficulty should I choose to get the reward faster in deprived from matrix?
The hardest one
Ok, so um what's the strategy to clear the stage faster?
??????????

Even the hardest only got me 5 point of progress 😂
Did you finish all the routes/endings
Should I build yata or just wait for cw?
finishing a route gives u a few levels
yata
Currently doing it, I just finished jetavie, normal, and beyond ending
Sure. Might as well
Neither
Go double qte bot on Nana 
I'm just doing the rabbit hole ending rn

what would tank qte even do when nana is solo
I never said tank qte 
Do I need 7,5k char to start the hardest difficulty?
liv lux and feral?
I prob should start grinding for Nana pulls. 0 pity, 200 BC and a dream
No
you can get her just from weeklies,just not day 1
You can use trial chars
Okay thanks
Is it better to just do coop solo? I get stuck waiting for others to load into the mission
but u should try to get her as soon as possible so u don't miss out on ppc skulls
don't do coop
Should be able to. Got broke due to pyro
Wait for nanami
Feral Alisa is preferable, but in cases where Alisa is busy yeah you can go feral lux (or arclight, garnet in this slot too, at the end of the day it's just for the memories)
Lol yea just go solo
If having connection issue like those
Wait it brings another question, does trial char have higher bp or no?
my non harmo alisa will work?

Not always
Uhhhh, I think
No, but they usually are SS and have sig weapon, better than f2p players atleast
Depends on you tbh. Sometimes they do but mostly they don't if you build the character well
I honestly just want to get rid of the tokens from the email
hii,i downloaded 30% of pgr,what happen if i shutdown now?can i resume or download form the start again
Yea just solo then
Should be able to
Should be resume
Thats been my experience at least
Smaller file size needed later on
it saves the amount u downloaded
Still have no idea how to get the other 2
So ul only download the 70% remaining
I guess you could go like
4guin 2eins 2gloria Feral
4dv 2sam/lantern Alisa (?
oh ok
how does one keep up with the story
I still have to play 3 story chapters man i hate this about sync patch
Welp okay, I just better use my luna oblivion with sig(also reso) and harmonized build
who said I have harmo feral
Stacking story chapters for me im lazy
Welp. This is fun. Need funding for nana, pyros wep, and the next patch as well
the only feral I will have is the free one from next patch,liv lux till then
4guin 2eins
4dv 2gloria
I think
You might have to skip a sig in that case
Bruh this patch is quite insane that im struggling to get nanami before she releases
Samee 
Am going to cuz new characters are more valuable. But I still need to somehow get it eventually
Yeah, unless ur chars are SS + sig youre better off using trial chars
Okay, thanks for the help!
Also alpha gacha is here bruh
Is it possible to get 30 weapon cloating blueprint from dorm within 1 month? Need 135.000 dispatch coin.
whos stronger in neutral content luna or lucia
How can I breath a little on this patch
Luna ig
Indeed. Speaking of which... I need to save up for Lunas coating (the one that comes later) 
Probably yeah
That's the neat part. You don't
Should be lucia
Grind irl for that one
Buy packs or 
Welp good luck brother, im just gonna skip that coating then get lucia wed coating
I'll have to test it later
wats the rotation on S lucia with sig?
Fair enough. How much is Lucia's wed coating btw?
17,5k
S Lucia is painful
Ah. Gl
Don't bother. Get her to ss
yeah every rotation i tried for ss DOES NOT WORK with S
Thanks lol
You dont say? 😂
Ofc 
Might as well try Luna then
iirc she isnt THAT crippled at base S
S luna rotation is same as ss suprisingly and is ez to learn
ping dodge ping dodge hold m1 ult ping dodge ping dodge hold m1 ult
why did i read it as ambatu... 
The one rotation where you do, red orb 1x then yellow orb 1x and then basic atk until the gauge is full
That's the rot for S rank lucia
Cope with it
Lol
Now that I think about it, Lunas rot is just all animation canceling side form the ult hold attack and final ult
Yeah
She's the easiest char aside from alpha
Hence pretty much always recommended for newbie
Also have auto dodge while hold basic atk
nobody knows man
noone wants to bother with base S
no one's psychopathic enough to do base s rotations when everyone's gonna get ss some day anyways
btw all the dodge cancels on luna is just on teh 3pings right? u dont cancel the hold m1s?
mf u have sss stfu
no

who tf told kuro its a good idea to add another roguelike
...they did?

@analog cargo gato gordo

El gato!
Do border pact bonuses apply to only those meeting the stages required conditions?
It says all members so that may not be the case but idk
all members
not sure how i can be much faster on ballard lucia start up time is kinda long but her damage is crazy
Wait what invest
333 133 111
Oh ok nice
Gato gordo
Yay
I already know the response Im gonna get
But
Do I pull Tsubricki 
yes
333 333 111 is like 10 s
lucia is only r1 im poor
so, try 12
SSS on hell
Gotta make that SSS+
im messing just being selective on reso gonna see how nanaknight pulls go
gotta get at least 10k

are u killing ballard just with Lucia??
baller
just hell
Yes!! I clapped him in clash and PPC finally
the lower difficulties i find it quicker using wata
Try fast eclipse ult + switch to Wata, Lucia qte SSS is a super nuke

Similar to Luna
i just barely learned lucia next time i probably will be faster plus your suggested rot
How to get blast wrench, fin fantastic friend, white sale artifact?
In deprived from matrix
i still need to wz holy slac
fire wz lucia is pretty much on rails strictly following the general rot if i try to do any adjustment according to the waves it falls apart because i dont know what to do next 
i just need more practice
why kuro making me work for bc

my lucia is all about adjustment lol
is ER09 Crescent sun in event page temprorary? or is it just temp access.
You can skip work
Just pay 
of course i am not using my fire team to its full potential but that will come with time it was the same with void but now im pretty strong with void
Idk how SSS fire team works on WZ, but yeah, it's just a matter of adapting to the gameplay
im doin eclipes ult on waves that have only 1 bar of health left 
i have a vid of my wz but ive since bested it by 250k points
https://youtu.be/N4irHXMm9Ks?si=96OWM6MuGQUneQzF if anyones curious
Legend WZ in Punishing: Gray Raven
SSS Pyroath: 4sig 4cottie
SSS Epitaph: 4sig 4shakespeare
SSS Empyrea: 4dv 2guinevere 2einsteina
lol, overkill waves are very easy with sss, so yes I think you need to make micro adjustments to the rotation
could be tiny things like extra red or extra slash before eclipse
they make a big difference
does CW actually want to use her super leap in lightning wz or does it replace the damage type?
with her leap she is a bit faster
You gotta fund me then
it makes her quite a bit faster imo
how
you dont need to sword wave at all
if you did sp delay a lot then sure its not that much different
you didn't need to sword wave to begin with
if you didn't learn how to sp delay already what were ud oin
sp delay doesn't feel inconsistent to me
good for u
if youre telling me you could do it every time over a mald session then congrats
i never learned to do sp delay
just wantap
i never managed to make it that consistent
damn that's crazy i'm being attacked for this
I can somehow do cw sp delay 1/3 of the time
Getting flamed for being too good 💔
Aint got time to mald for the best score in history, take the highest score and sleep
its not even an attack its impressive but like
Yee solo alpha 3 million was easy to reach anyway be4 wz revamp
sp delay is like mostly relevant for cw 2nd rot
Can I do better? Chaos 16s
Storm
there are so many other techniques that feel infinitely harder to get consistent
to this day i still can't reliably nail lamia dive cancel
nah u are right, Claire showed me how to do it and I managed to do it in one whole game, but I was too lazy to do it again because I have to use 5 fingers on the screen 
Me neither lmao
did you know you can dive cancel even when lamia is doing basic atk?
U can dive with lamia?
kind of my experience, i learned about it while watching trs one day, he explained the concept to me and i nailed it that same day
dive cancel? nope i'm out 
ive done dive cancel maybe 4 times in my entire time playing pgr
I know kevin will dive into lamia 100%
i accidentally did it like 2-3 times maybe
Does anyone have a super easy guide for Lucia Pain cage for 5 year olds
@carmine reef btw regarding that video of my wz
Even with those few times i stalled chars for 1 or 2 seconds it shouldnt add up to a 1.5mil score loss no? Since people r saying i should have >4mil easily with my invest 
easy and lucia in the same sentence? 
sp delay i could do at like 70% success rate only 
I don't think I have ever done SP delay intentionally
I only do each technique superhard once, to experience the pain of all the PPC players and then I do one tap afterwards
low enough to make leap impactful
@unborn ivy Hiiiiiiiiii
imagine doing paint dupe/color bug 3x in 1 run in ppc
please don't remind me
i blame you for this
I just remembered it
Color bug wasn't that bad actually
Imagine ppc mattered
I would much prefer it to dive cancel
3x in a row?
anyway i do understand your point that it can make it more consistent but i would rather just stay that from the start, calling it faster is just not true and i still hold to that
Yes color bug is pretty easy to time ngl
paint dupe is kinda the same thing as sp delay but like, for some reason it "feels" easier than sp delay with cw for me? don't get why
i did it, was frustrating, but was my better score on Madorea pre Qu XD
now try that with 2 darwin 5* kaleido
1.8m to get into IB, wantap IB and sleep
i think thats where we'll just fundamentally disagree then but im wz brained so im thinking on the entire run idk if this is some ppc application too
i wished i recorded my vid with hell ss3 5* kale
Color bug isnt harder to do at that invest, it's the same input
i got into ib today for the first time and that shi is hopeless af
? i'm talking about in wz too
same tbh, I never thought I can 580k with my invest at that time
yeah then agree to disagree
IB is just another warzone
remembered when i was being gatekept by my resos on chaos : maocry:
Shut whel
i mean if you were doing sp delay its literally not faster, and sp delay isn't some crazy niche tech
call it more consistent if you want, but it makes no sense to call it faster when you can only say that from the perspective of somebody not doing a common technique
Does CW and Balter leaps affect standard phy / lightning main dps scores?
makes it worse yes
Like should I hold off on CW leap until Nanami
for phy, not really,
for lightning, just don't do her new slam
their leaps is fundamentally for affixes content only
My hanying is ss only rn
False
saving time over a non perfect run does mean its faster yes


I'm not trying to get perfect score. Just trying to take less time than Hyperreal, who's doing more rn cuz I don't kno how to use Lucia xD
??
what
after some spellunking with my wallet, i got PyroOath at pity, now at 2000 BC left over. save for Starrail Nanami or Get Mafia Weave then Starrail Nanami?
what zaza are you making
Well it gives minor buffs to both balters phys output and cw light output
save for nanami obviously
So yeah should raise score by a bit
Nanami
Hyperreal 
Nanami it is
Coating does not improve gameplay
hmmm
False
Rosetta does more dmg than hanying. It's def cuz the coating
depends on what you mean by improve
cw coat is useless anyway when you don't have her at sss :lmaocry:
Improve score
damn, got me there
@carmine reef i got to 2.9m on fire btw with the team i mentioned yday, gonna try to hit 3m like u said
not even on the team
gl
better coating = more morale = higher mald capacity = higher score
I mean... there was outfits in HI3 that you would actually lose 1 second because of certain animation lag
So 0second kills impossible
Let Hi3 stay in it's own decrepit and cursed world
how long to to SSS units, a week?

less than a month hehe
from what resources
A week of working 9-5 yes
I do not need PGR to become anymore like Hi3 than it already has
🐳
indeed, them tariffs aint gonna stop me
A ranks?
3 months
voucher S ranks?
a year (normally without sync)

S-ranks? A-ranks?
A ranks first
bro thats some slave labor level wage
Depends if they are new or not
A ranks take like 2 days with sync
Meh more like a week
ok sss your bridget
damn
Anyway, no super technique will help you at all if you're doing something wrong. Something another player told me (why did I have a better score than him in physical if I didn't use x3 helicopter in Balter) 
Non-sync ones take like mb 3 months
Slavery has never been abolished
Only change form 
but bridget was easy to SSS+
from 2 shards daily from interludes
Is yata any good
Yata is already sss tho. After 1 day lol
who knows
I don't play A ranks
Sync is crazy
damn
welll anyways anyone think yata+feral+echo could get >1mil in light zkne
so sync week, no sync = 3 months. damn s ranks are worse then
I play A ranks because Guild boss A rank is the best content in the game
yeah because theres event that give NEW s ranks shards to sss+
now how about older A ranks?
Good damage for an A-rank but she has some really bad stagger issues
mr incest everytime i watch him play wuwa and he's somehow figured out the exact worst way to play every character:
LMAO
huhhh
and that sh*t isnt scaled on sync
Who tf is Mr Incest
ooh
it's hardlocked 2 shard daily
iykyk
Rexlent?
you dont wana know
You can buy the shards from the shop
Yikes
2 shards and you need 90 right, for A ranks
If you have been playing for longer than a year, you should be able to day 1 SSS+ new A ranks with excess shard conversion
1 random character shard daily
Im curious now 
From the conversion shop
break ur shackles, join a circus and clown the world
wait
ok buddy
you don't even know how pgr works
?
actually just stfu and stay quiet : lmaocry:
this is not the case but lol
conversion shop??
spewing bs from ass
Pretty sure I've gotten every A rank pre sync just like that.
So guess idk how it works.
You just don't pull enough maybe
that's crazy
most of my SSS a ranks are from pulls ngl
first this chat had skill issue for too much skill and now we got skill issue for too poor
are you stupid
Do u mean the shard shop? You can do that but I highly doubt a new player even has an S+ characetr already and happens to already be getting dupes of said character
actually im not going to bother
yea i was gonna say that sounds like hidden whel
too poor from outside bosses
lee replacement eh??
I didnt say a new player. I said an account that is over a year old with multiple prior A ranks.
yes
yup
Yep

i've been playing for a year and i didn't even have a single s+ until sync gave them for free
too poor to breathe air
how much better is she?
Yes
my boy lee gonna need to hit galaxy numbers if he wants to catch up
Every sync patch so far we get free S+ tho
Teddy and bridget were easy S+, and my yata is already SSS4 without shard conversions
100x fold
the reason is quite simple: it would be such a colossal waste of serum to s+ those a ranks just for overflow shop just to s+ more a ranks
If we are gonna go down that rot tho then theoretically you can S+ a unit instantly
we weren't exactly drowning in serum before sync like we are now
i finally sss+ my bambi
after 1.5 years
i had to use entire patches to perfect reso a character bro
serum was scarce before fr fr
do you know how long that take
i'm not blowing serum on fkn overflow shards for a ranks
I have NOTHING to do with serum anymore after you build everyone to a minimum degree.
and i intentionally use standard banenr for it too
im not even gonna rank up yata, that hoe can stay A rank forever
that's how we know you're clueless lol
waiit, i forgot about my overflow shards
What does minimal degree even mean
hold on
HyperLee already gets outdps'ed by Watank
Pyro is outdpsing Watank
So yeah 
Cogs and serum are a major funnel for accounts less than a year old. The second you build your main teams you start hoarding resources at an exponential rate.
either you're a sync player that doesn't know what it was like before, or you're just clueless to what you actually need to build
So anyways since i dont have 100 merits i cant promote
But
I did a funny where the 2nd place dude in my bracket COULD promote
So I beat his score and now nobody promotes >:D
I started playing at A vera.
You dont fancy those 6 hands? 
Nuh uh 0.000000000001°
thats insane, serum bundles and pass is a must during normal times
technically u could just use minute
Not even those 6 hands could beat what Jetavie's tail would do 
LMAOOOOOOO
i can't with this chat 
i think thats a bit smaller than an arcminute
serum bundle a must

literal spawn of satan
meth
I did calc and thats one of the worst value for money bundles
it is
I think only the 30/rc and 25/rc bundles are below it
just pay bc to serums
Wtf
very good trust
Wtf cryo
better than serum pass
Be that guy on facebook who emptied out the shop first day of oblivion patch and u will beat the game 
yall can whel all you want but it is pretty crazy to be so whel you call serum bundle a must in gph
the casual bundle
this time, surely, 6* weapon
How much serum did yall have before sync. Then how much serum did you have post sync?
100%, trust me guys
i diagnose you with 3*
or what i would do to jetavies tail 
SHUT.
xD she uses this?
imho MPA is the only stuff a very light spender should buy
i have never hit above 10 pity in weapon banner standsrd
no comment
Because pre sync I was sitting on 40 at least, needing to blow through all of it before the patch update. Now it's in the hundreds of pots.
Like 300 per day, rn is like 900
i think cub bp is actually better value than mpa during sync but otherwise ye
Assuming a patch is 6 weeks then 168 serum bottles from dailies
Mmm but during sync the costs of buying the BPs go up exponentially too
? no it doesn't?
Theres just no where to use serum outside building memories or gathering cogs. Once you have memories built, serum is redundant.
wtf are you on about
I mean why would u buy just 1
nah, just buy x2 or x3
wouldnt u want to buy all 3
perfect memory resos on dv tanks and amps?
...you could say the same for mpa?
I did it, then quit
What is happening rn

Yeah. It's all used on memory reroll rn.
idk
hence why i said very light spender kek ¯_(ツ)_/¯
anyway i have a simple answer: i'm gonna buy just 1 cause i'm not gonna triple my spending just cuz kuro wants me to
chat is spicy today
whel talk
Serum pass is like 32 RC to BC value, not the worst if ur in need of serum
Is there any investment level to get a character unpowercreepable? like it wont be replaced by ss of same role and element
you guys are honestly insane you're genuinely so whel you don't know how to not think like a whel
No
lmfao
SSS Karen
mpa is like 108
like actually no flame you can't even imagine what it's like to be a light spender
totally not biased
so don't try and theorize in that direction if you can't even comprehend it
which karenina?
I played f2p for the first year and half
i mean ofc im talking about this with the assumption that u already cleared all the above 35 value stuff in the shop
Bro I remember stressing over affording all necessary gears and ransk and sht even when I was spending money
Man, shes meta tank: tank for Nanameme, tank for SSS wanshi, Tank for Hanying, Tank for Watanabe
that's literally hundreds of dollars
e a r
u forgot tank for umbra too
wats so special about her sss that makes her unpowercreepable compared to others
and honestly one of the unique tanks since I don't think anyone will have extra 5% edr 
He's trolling
then at that point you'd have spent over 1k RC its not good value unless ur whaling a ton 
uncle leap
10% edr on sss
isn't ishmael the closest to "unpowercreepable" the game has?
not even close
lmfao
No Ishmael is actually garbage
who is clearing all the >35 stuff in sync is my question
Lmao, Karen Best Girl 
Fraudmael
nah, at some point everyone is gonna be easily powercrept
*second best girl
she can fill any role, poorly
i spent 1k rc this patch so that I can SSS pyroath and nanaknight 
she's already powercrept in all of those roles except void
she's VERY restrictive in that department
Thanks for supporting the game

oh
More 5% Class Skill + 8% reso shred
Will have to wait till next patch to SSS though since i can only afford 3 copies each
Ishmael filling any non-void role only applies to people that are missing team members pretty much and/or u have her at higher invest
i kinda have to in order to catch up


||i will be replacing my empy and potentially kaleido with ish though||
have you ever heard of a tank-tank-amp setup ? or amp-tank-amp setup? yea ishmael is classless if you put her in that kind of setup
i dont think even i did clear all that in luna patch
why tho
base s empy iirc
oh lol
because my empy and kale are ss 5* and my ish will be r2
yeah i was talking about our situation basically man, if ur gonna be hitting the spending reward limit of 1k, if there are no other good packs or packs that benefit u, could consider the serum
what if sss 5*, will sss r1 ish be better 
oh then it's kinda a pointless passive endgame lol
ish is meta fire amp tho apparently
so yes?
IF they don't "fix" vera
That's been fixed Im pretty sure
better than empy yes better than empy no and only bc my wata is r1
only if kuro is stupid and make ish copies vera
i dont know what thats about
the thing is, right, since ish can hold shred reso, and my wata is only r1 so can only hold dlt
that's why ish is pretty easily an upgrade for me over empy in fire
top scorers using ish
u said empy twice
it's a harder ask for ice bc wanshi has shred reso on
kuro fcked up making ish copy beta vera on live servers
because they are abusing a bug
ohh
DV was bugged on Geiravor for some reason so people were just using Ish cause she copies her passive
ish copies vera
so if i have sss 5* kale and empy who would i wanna replace with sss r1 ish
idk what i meant to say but anyway you get the point
kuso back at it again
it happened on the day ranks changed
ish with shred reso and harmo is already better than empy with eins
considering my wata holding dlt
vera skippable?
Isnt shred reso tank exclusive
don't tell rydle that
true and real
you'll never guess what ish has access to
observer class
yea, but i heard is because she is bugged, If the bug is fixed before reaching global, we will not see those scores
yes
something tells me it might not be
and amp reso too
kuso likes to copy paste
Wait I was told she couldnt
so i can throw my empy and kale out the window next patch?
i'll have r1 from norman and i have rose sig banked up for the r2
so i can put shred reso and SAR/GS on
she can't the other way around iirc
This is so retarted
the amp resos don't work on tank
one requires healing, and the other doesn't activate for some reason
and since she'll have harmo
Ok i wont invest in kale or empy anymore then
... But corriosion works?
yeah ofc
and tank reso??
Ill just SSS ishmael and use her in fire and ice
2guin 8% shred 10% atk should outweigh 15% shred, esp given empy's awful qte that isn't reliable anyway
god bless her
Why does Corrosion work but SAR doesn't that makes literally zero sense
why wouldn't corrosion work
corrosion?
amp ish can hold the 2 amp resos and the shred reso
but tank ish can only activate shred reso
noted
I think it includes SAR for tank ish?
Looking at his previous messages i think what he means is "why does tank reso work while copying amp but amp reso doesnt work for tank"
the one amp reso doesn't work because it requires healing to activate
ish can hold all the resos regardless of what role she is
the other one should work
I was told it didn't, but no clear idea
theyll all work as long as the conditions are right
Oh so Zeru is just misinfoing
as usual
Noted 
💀
i can test myself
glorious spear definitely does not work
but not rn
we pull for mommy
as usual
said the one who believed feral daren was better than nana daren

Uh oh
chat so spicy
should i prioritize invershards for phys team (echo) or resonacne shards with couchers?
neither lol
for lilith
and Wanshi maybe
well before lilith, do you have wanshi sss lol
lets spice you up too
Investing in Echo now is a bad idea tbh unless u have a shitton of vouchers to spare
what

surely she survives longer than cockroach leap
oh ok
i dont think lilith is in teh game yet
does he know
She's not but u should prepare for her
does he know...
Who's cockroach again?
Daren?
I think he means CW
but you will need SSS her day 1
it's definitely daren
yes
oh
oh

Why’s everyone slandering everyone?
wait why? does she work with nihil?
k whale

Man all this brainrot made me lose braincells too 
you didn't have those to begin with
Bih I just got here
Nuh uh yes I did
Then it succeeded 
That means you missed the fish slander
Oh hell no
It's not slander if it's right

Dark, Plasma and prob Nihil
the darn delivery driver for my package dmed me at 8am when i was sleeping cause some dumbass forgot to put the actual address to my house
it's now 11am wtf
Is DLT or Glorious afterglow more important for pyroath weapon reso?
DLT by far
btw after seeing ur insane fate pulls, i went to pull pyro on fate and ended up going +90 pulls x 3 in a row, went back to normal 60 banner to finish it off, literally lost sss nana due to going fate lol
Bricked
standard fate experience
Didn’t have kev luck
Uhhhhh cry about it 
pull nana next on fate and u will be blessed
Got pyroath in 23 pulls in fate
you mean
KURAI ABOUT IT
it always looks worse before it looks better
99% of gamblers quit right before they win big
how do u guys know lilith can be bought by invershards in the first place? it doesnt show the future patch notes in gray raven.com
And invershards only lets u get 50? sss u need 120 shards...
it always looks worse before it looks evenw orse
- cause CN server
- gray raven site sucks
does ml even work on empyrea
Because i play TW server
tf people use that site
Yeah thats what I was referencing 
bro i am legit traumatized idk if ill go back to it, lost like 100 pulls
thats how they get you
if you dont pull more, youre forever at a loss
Luck better
Any tips to get black cards faster
where do u go to view CN content? just random sites like bilibili and yt? or is tehre a specific channel or website u go to
And how do u get enough for sss... vouchers only give u 50 max

thats actually also true, in the long run it should equalize, atleast break even
well you CAN use those sites but mostly it's just being in this chat lol
Nah bruh they PLAY on that server
you get enough for sss from vouchers
breaking even is also winning
the lost sheep achievement is bugged right?
u get 60, according to wiki u need 120 total shards for sss

the most fked thing is that, i looked the Gins fate pull records, of like 70 copies and namelesses S+ pyro pulls so 10 copes, none of them had a streak as fked as i had, this is what made me so sad and discouraged
no i dont think so
no?
that's 60 per month, and also you will only need 70 to sss lilith since you get base copy plus 20 shards plus 30 from ppc
I already did it
Play faster 
Play the story, the rogue like modes, stronghold, warzone, ppc, etc
Do dailies, weeklies, play events, do main story, clear everything in challenges tab
idk
i haven't played dfm for a hot minute
wait how to get it then? i got unknown gospel iv but it didn't clear
2 months of discount vouchers for sss lilith
So still using skulls on her
ah so i still need to save black cards? and where does the plus 20 come from
yeah you need to look at fate on the long run, before my pyroath pulls i was at 99/80 back from hanying pulls on fate
hey guys look its cash cow
i mean you can skip the skulls if...you wanted to pay ane xtra 24k voucher
so im now up when i was originally way down
no you don't need to save bc

shes not even a cow 
Get skulled get skulled get skulled
her base copy plus her sig plus the 20 extra shards are free from a permanent event banner thing
There's Gospel Fragment IV if you do the events on alpha route but Unknown Gospel IV if you do them on beta route, the achievement guide in pins has the correct sequence
Mid skin
should I try rolling 10 for a usb
tbf with how the economy is going that doesn't sound as horrible
you got 10k extra bc you wanna donate?
Glad I spent it all on feesh skin
remember the last time I rolled 10 for a usb..
U won't get it
60 voucher
30 from ppc and where r the other 30?
Not my fault
yes it does
you following this?
watch, 5 pulls
"I would like to NOT see anything", the skin
i guess it really do be like that, i actaully also have 25 pulls in fate already, u reckon i should legit continute from there for nana? i will only have enough for ss3 by the time she rolls around so if i get bad luck again ill be doomed
70 voucher bro
is fulgor worth using like decryptor?
20 u get from her exclusive shop so only 70 from vouchers
The same event gives you some coins (200), you exchange those coins for 20 shards (100) and her pet (100)
this one from Ko's guide
please just read my messages properly the first time
my advice is yes, but you have to be prepared that you may also lose again
oooh
wait ima check event shop
That one's wrong, it gets you Gospel Fragment IV instead of Unknown Gospel IV
Doesn’t Lilith second banner gives another Lilith copy?

all it takes is like one double pull from fate and ur way up
second banner isn't entirely free
Solidifies the fact I'm not gonna go fate banner in selena
Isn't that the paid one
You can pull as many times as u want on that
i am talking about Lilith (next patch)
iirc
But it costs BC
follow the one I sent
yeah... maybe better to continue fate on Ish patch when ill be more loaded on pulls unlike now, hedge the risk abit, idk
damn it
I know. I intend to
thats also a valid option
that is false, you can't get that achievement on the alpha side
the missions clearly states you need to do it on the beta side
I followed it and got all achievements
99% of gambles quit b4 they win big aahhh advice 
srry i just didnt know where the base copy and 20 shards from ur message came from so i was double checking whether i needed to save anything else
bro wants to replace his feesh 
oh damn it you're right
.
Yeah I went through the exact same thing trying to get all the achievements 
Damn I'm late to the party
Im extremely worried about how they are gonna handle Lilith banner
Why
worried how
ok i just didnt c that lol, sorry
Cause iirc it takes like 3 weeks to get her for free
yeah






