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[carmine reef]

pandemic hours fr

[waxen kindle]

brb ima check sth

[worthy gulch]

worth, ur at 826 already

go for it 100%

[lament yoke]

~~Posts the build on reddit ~~

[boreal lynx]

wht do i buy tho

[lament yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-cat-explosion-gif-17905284344545073180

[worthy gulch]

show shop, did u get all BP?

[boreal lynx]

yeah

[simple dew]

offrate noctis sig

[simple dew]

free reso ig at 3rd pull

[stray siren]

@carmine reef what is your score in fire??

[carmine reef]

i just posted the video of my run a little up

[stray siren]

Ok ok

[ripe stag]

Compared to how the games show SDT trigger works
The Netflix adaptation made it look so peaceful

[cinder mango]

no my device can't handle wz recording

[lament yoke]

https://youtu.be/GYU_odto7WU?si=mjqsIyjRda1cyvFE

[carmine reef]

@stray siren

[simple dew]

potato

[waxen kindle]

it was a spider2b vid and yes i did mistake it for >=ss3 instead of <=ss3

[carmine reef]

💀

[simple dew]

spider2b has ass builds

[worthy gulch]

my reccomendations are wep monthly pass, construct discoiunt rnd ticket, embracing dawn if u need HT mats and weapon 10x rnd bundle

[waxen kindle]

U GUYS SAID THIS ONE WAS RELIABLE AHHH

[lament yoke]

Top reso gonna be basic atk
And
Bottom reso gonna be ult?

[carmine reef]

not like this...

[keen meteor]

Bruh
Maybe u can review my footage and gimme some pointers?

[cold walrus]

Wata skin

[lament yoke]

Interesting

[carmine reef]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-gif-15190379

[cinder mango]

maybe tomorrow cause it's 3 am rn for me

also i'm kinda stupid lmao

[lament yoke]

Haven't seen any char who doesn't use atk reso yet so

[carmine reef]

huh? there are several

[lament yoke]

Like?

[carmine reef]

cw, wata

[lament yoke]

[keen meteor]

Dont matter if you know how to get 3m

[worthy gulch]

actually not a bad idea lmao

[lament yoke]

Oh ofc I forgot about wata

[vale raft]

This character does not exist. Please try again.
You may be searching for a character with multiple frames as well.

[waxen kindle]

"yeah yeah watch spider's guide he redeemed himself hes reliable now"
well

[simple dew]

"brick"

[keen meteor]

I can DM you it if you want and u can take a look later

[cinder mango]

sure

[lament yoke]

Anymore ?

[simple dew]

spider abd redeem in 1 sentence

[keen meteor]

Add me or open DMs

[stray siren]

Thanks, I definitely don't know how to play Wata Shakes

[waxen kindle]

[carmine reef]

i had to change how i play wata for this too lol

[cinder mango]

ok added

[carmine reef]

cause i didn't have a functional team rotation before since no hyper

had to relearn a couple things to accommodate how fast he has to swap with lucia

[waxen kindle]

[cinder mango]

what part of pyroath's kit does basic scaling affect?

[carmine reef]

swordwaves

[simple dew]

anything with j

[carmine reef]

presumably

[keen meteor]

Thanku thanku

[lament yoke]

[cinder mango]

what about the other hold atk move, idk what it's called

[half steeple]

are all uniframes just waste of resources for new player?

[carmine reef]

it probably affects them but their dmg is irrelevant

[river nymph]

[half steeple]

is roland good or no

[carmine reef]

the only relevant part of the rotation whose dmg you'd want to consider boosting is swordwaves

which are 2000% per tick

[carmine reef]

yes

[carmine reef]

no

[half steeple]

kk tysm

[carmine reef]

also it's not just for new players, uniframes are irrelevant for everyone

[lament yoke]

Bad

[foggy ridge]

i just accidentally used watas hold ba on his assault form and that somehow got me to w31 wtf

[half steeple]

he looks so cool i wanted him lol

but i don’t have resources to waste

[simple dew]

maybe if youre omega whel and want extra 10k in ss

[quaint elk]

who will be added to standard banner on next update? both Lucia and Nanami?

[boreal lynx]

what wata skin

[carmine reef]

lucia yes nanami no

[foggy ridge]

this hero bracket hard

[ripe stag]

I have a question

To how much Elemental buff can 5% EDB compare to

[cold walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/watanabe-pgr-watanabe-pgr-pgr-watanabe-punishing-gray-raven-gif-14263186118186818882

[carmine reef]

hero forever a joke now

every single week it's a joke

[river nymph]

[foggy ridge]

i dont remember hero being this slack nowadays

[carmine reef]

it's been like this since the rework

because reputation change means less people demote

so there's more noobs inflating hero population

[foggy ridge]

oh it changed?

[ripe stag]

Won't even try

[foggy ridge]

i didnt pay attention to it

[ripe stag]

There's no use trying

[carmine reef]

where have u been bruh

[stray siren]

Well, that's a discussion that's been going on these days, top reso is atk in all ranks

[lean pulsar]

I'm currently retaining in hero, f2p that started in qu patch

[worthy gulch]

it almost looks identical to mine

[lean pulsar]

I don't think that's the intended design

But also sync

[carmine reef]

i'm like top 1 or 2 every single week as an ss0 player who isn't that old and doesn't even have all sigs

[river nymph]

[cold walrus]

why did they even change wz

[quaint elk]

okay, that's still great, from up to Lucia who's most worth making SS3 then? and my pity won't reset on next update, right?

[cold walrus]

i don' think it was a big problem for cn

[worthy gulch]

1 person gapping on everyone else by like 5m points and the rest dwelling

[ripe stag]

Back in old days
I had to wait till Nanamech patch to continuously retain hero and sometimes demote. Started during Kowloong metropolis (Plume patch)

[carmine reef]

pity doesn't reset BUT the standard banner S rank selection does so you really would want to use it now because it won't stack

[foggy ridge]

'"hows the 'just ult spam' mentality going for ya "

[lean pulsar]

That's crazy. That's like 2 years

[short surge]

Whel

[carmine reef]

like, if you haven't used the S rank selection on base banner yet, you really want to use that this patch

[ripe stag]

Hero wasn't this easy

[quaint elk]

I used selection long time ago already, for scire

[carmine reef]

because we get another one next patch but it will overwrite the current one if you didn't use it

[lean pulsar]

Hero is red lotus now

[carmine reef]

oh ok then you're chillin

[foggy ridge]

i think i started on garnet patch but didnt touch it fully till i think nanaknight patch

[ripe stag]

Now my one tap lets me retain hero

[carmine reef]

i would say lucia most worth ss3 then

[ripe stag]

Well I have improved a lot as well

[simple dew]

unc

[foggy ridge]

so many uncs here fr

[lean pulsar]

UNC these nuts

[carmine reef]

fkn boomers

[foggy ridge]

sign me right up

[ripe stag]

Wait

[stray siren]

In my time I used to retain Hero with base S characters aka Luna, ploom, Veritrash

[lean pulsar]

I have 1600 days in hi3 👴

[foggy ridge]

ok grandma lets get you to bed

[broken wadi]

when im using l ucia and i enter in fly mode i cannot do sword slashes and bar is empty :/ what am i doing wrong?? im still filling up the bar and hold basic right before flying

[ripe stag]

Oh wait

[lean pulsar]

What's your rank

That's S0 issue no?

[broken wadi]

salguther hosue

[carmine reef]

there's two bars

[lament yoke]

Wtf

[lean pulsar]

Ok yeah the trial Lucia is s0

[broken wadi]

bruh

[ripe stag]

I STARTED DURING VERA ROZEN

How can I forget

[lean pulsar]

Full bar on fly comes at ss0

[ripe stag]

The reason I started was Vera

[thorn creek]

Smh so many younglings

[ripe stag]

[broken wadi]

ok ty

[lean pulsar]

Full circle

[foggy ridge]

good lord that is dinasour era

[carmine reef]

i mean it could also be a rotation issue?

you want to hold basic after the first ult, then do 3x3 red

[lean pulsar]

I know trial chars are s0

And SS skill gives the bar

[broken wadi]

is 31 shapers ripples a temproary story or is it temp access to it in events page?

[ripe stag]

Just after Plume patch
I actually played 2 days in Plume patch

[lean pulsar]

Temp early Access

Don't do it tho you'll be lost

[half steeple]

is it worth building bianca when i get her?

https://huaxu.app/na/players/26257627/characters

[lean pulsar]

The story is great but it has 40+ chapters of buildup

[broken wadi]

💀 at least ive been paying attention to story so far... t

[carmine reef]

i've checked the kit

[lean pulsar]

I'm in a similar spot and I'm gonna build her because triple resource patch. That being said I probably won't use her at all because 5* weapons are unusable for the most part

[carmine reef]

s0 should still be able to do swordwaves using the ss0 rotation

it just won't be full bar, it'll be 3/4

so it is a rotation issue

[lean pulsar]

Yes, but if you can't it's 100% s0

[carmine reef]

user error rotation issue i mean

wdym

[lean pulsar]

Because ss0 gives you the bar even if you do dumb sheet

[carmine reef]

no but like

[lament yoke]

What a nice way to start wz

[carmine reef]

they're saying they can't do ANY swordwaves

[broken wadi]

so ive swap then hold r then spam stuff until full bar hold m1 to do the special atk then fly

[carmine reef]

that means they're doing hold basic right before fly

[worthy gulch]

wondering about the same, leaning more towards just coping till selena tho

[carmine reef]

which is incorrect rotation

[lean pulsar]

incorrect rotation and ss0

[carmine reef]

yea see they confirmed it they're doing it wrong

[lean pulsar]

That's just trial boss stage

[half steeple]

i googled who does more dmg it says new hanying hits harder than bianca so idk if it’s really worth it for me to build bianca bc im already building hanying, alisa, wanshi, pyroath, and new nanami

[carmine reef]

you have no gauge because you're doing hold atk right before fly

[broken wadi]

bruh i followed the spider ss 2b vid tho ;-;

[half steeple]

so much to build but it’ll be okay bc everything will slow down once we r caught up with cn

[carmine reef]

you did not follow it correctly clearly

[lean pulsar]

Slaughterhouse is the vonngut boss event. People usually just do cool looking stuff there I assume

[shy shore]

Honestly, coping for two patches isn't really too difficult in my eyes

[broken wadi]

hold basic right before ult

[half steeple]

when do we catch up with cn?? is it after new vera patch?

[carmine reef]

lmao this is spider2b's opener rot? it's garbage

he's using yellows? LOL

[lament yoke]

Google for pgr

[carmine reef]

alright chief imma be real just don't use that video

[lament yoke]

[broken wadi]

wat vid u reccomend?

[half steeple]

yes google it helps :)

[carmine reef]

idk i don't watch other people's videos

there'a a screenshot floating around somewhere let me try and find that

[quaint elk]

stigmata needs signature to do "helicopter" attack right after casting first ult, without sig you first need to do couple basic attack and then hold afaik

[deft apex]

even empress rot kinda sucks this time 😭

[worthy gulch]

prob by October

[carmine reef]

you want to do that anyway though

[lament yoke]

Last time I asked Google for help about pgr it recommended me to build astral and vera so idk

[carmine reef]

only sss goes straight into helicopter

ss0 and ss3 want to do basic chain even with sig

[lament yoke]

(rozen)

[half steeple]

so she has to have 6 star weapon? i’m not building her then

[lean pulsar]

Ss0 no dlt flies here in 2b vid

Which is 1 sword wave probably

[half steeple]

isn’t new selena supposed to be with hanying and alisa?

[foggy ridge]

yeh

[half steeple]

idk i thought so bc it says she’s physical so wouldn’t it be waste to do bianca rn?

kk i wait for new selena

[river nymph]

[half steeple]

bianca too expensive to be benched in a patch

[lean pulsar]

Yeah that's it

Honestly you can build her

She won't do much damage but also won't cost anything

[carmine reef]

ss 5* balter is usable

[lean pulsar]

She can sit there and be pretty

[lean pulsar]

Scars...

[carmine reef]

oh

seethe and cope i guess

[lean pulsar]

Basically

[boreal lynx]

wht should i get from this or just use it as a reso

[foggy ridge]

i tell myself that everyday on wz

[carmine reef]

what the whel

[lean pulsar]

What the whel

[carmine reef]

wait does this selector not show what you own

or do you actually not own any of those

[lament yoke]

Rigidity is so good aahhhhhh

[broken wadi]

ok after testing in tutotiral she does not gain any sword wave after ulting and doing this

[worthy gulch]

Depends who u got and if they have sig, if all got sig then use for fodder

[naive apex]

wow holy crap, I actually managed to pull off the Lucia WZ rotation properly. That's crazy

[carmine reef]

you gain swordwave energy from 9r

[lean pulsar]

Yeah starting rot doesn't gain any

[broken wadi]

whats 9r

[lean pulsar]

Oh it does

[carmine reef]

9 reds
in the 2nd swap rot onward

[boreal lynx]

doesnt show

[carmine reef]

the opener rot yes you won't be able to do any because the opener relies on ss0 passive

but after that you can still go into the air with 90/120 energy from 9 reds

[boreal lynx]

cw coating made me do this 😭

[coarse gorge]

For some reason past me used usb for basic attack on top reso for ss Lucia... How cooked am i

[carmine reef]

cringe

[lean pulsar]

I have 40+

[quaint elk]

I have SS balter with sig, I do helicopter first and then basic attacks, so it's practically same, just different order

[lean pulsar]

So not cooked at all

[boreal lynx]

only relevant chars i have without sig are wanshi, liv empe, and alisa

[lean pulsar]

Those aren't a rare valuable resource

[half steeple]

if i had these teams would i be able to clear everything in PGR?
should i prioritize getting watanabe from selector reset and qu shu from selena patch selector?

Fire - Lucia: Pyroath, Watanabe: Epitaph
Lightning - Nanami: Startrail, Lucia: Crimson Weave
Physical - Hanying: Solacetune, Alisa: Echo, Selena: Pianissimo
Ice - Ayla: Kaleido, Wanshi: Lucid Dreamer, Qu: Shukra
Dark - Lamia: Lost Lullaby, Teddy: Decryptor, Vera: Rozen
Nihil - Luna: Oblivion, Ishmael: Parhelion, Teddy: Decryptor

https://huaxu.app/na/players/26257627/characters

[lean pulsar]

What's that dark

[lament yoke]

Is it a good idea to do bullet ult at 6 stack by wanshi on first wave? For saving few secs

[naive apex]

wtf is teddy doing there?

[half steeple]

bc she’s all i got homie

[coarse gorge]

The dark team

[half steeple]

i have like nothing i joined during new luna patch

[lean pulsar]

Ok bro this is chat gpt

[naive apex]

you have amps dude

[lean pulsar]

This is like 10/10 AI prompt ahh

[half steeple]

i’m trying to figure out how to make teams

[carmine reef]

theoretically there might be, but in practice that has never given me a better result when i try it

[boreal lynx]

twins

[half steeple]

i’m so late to start

[lean pulsar]

Use this

[coarse gorge]

No 21 and teddy works imo not teddy and rozen

[broken wadi]

wait wat lucia can ult in neutral state?

[lament yoke]

I see, I guess I gotta do a whole run huh

[lean pulsar]

Does a little cute bunny hop

[lament yoke]

Thanks

[carmine reef]

lucia has like 4 ults

[shy shore]

tbh, due to how powercreep works in this game, it kinda works towards newbies favor in some way

[carmine reef]

which one do you mean

[carmine reef]

(it doesn't but go off)

[quaint elk]

dark needs either karenina scire or you can cope for now with dark 21

[coarse gorge]

Anyways. So atk really over basic for ss lucia?

[carmine reef]

yes atk

[river nymph]

[lean pulsar]

Powercreep always works in favour of newbies. That's how it works by definition. in pgr it's less in favour of newbies due to the abundance of teams

[coarse gorge]

The diff noticeable?

[broken wadi]

in 2nd rot the first one after swap

[coarse gorge]

[formal void]

My alt acc older than bro💔🥀

[river nymph]

[carmine reef]

powercreep does not work in favor of newbies if you're comparing to active players

[lean pulsar]

Rolling atk X6 is about 1 day's worth of stamina if not less

[shy shore]

With or without powercreep, you will need full teams anyways no?

[carmine reef]

it's only in favor of newbies if you're comparing against people that took a break

otherwise pgr favors veterans always

[lean pulsar]

Yeah but with these many teams there are 2 yo characters you need

[half steeple]

wait so bc i have wanshi i don’t need qu??

[keen meteor]

U need both

[coarse gorge]

But it's still not perfect.. My brain won't stop until it's perfect for my rank... Fk it Imma use my usbs again

[quaint elk]

wanshi is tank, qu attacker

[carmine reef]

even if a new character comes out that replaces an old one, the veteran can use old sigs as reso or even use old units as subs in specific situations like saving ap in ppc

[lean pulsar]

if you don't have qu you REALLY need wanshi

[broken wadi]

Also ive noticed that if u accumulate the white number stacks before enterring solar flare state the number is still there but u cannot turn it into the yellow bar with basic??

[lament yoke]

Starting to get hold ult on luna now

[worthy gulch]

u can go for wanshi or alisa sig with the selector then,

[half steeple]

this thingy made me think i might not need her but nvm ig i do

[naive apex]

your dark team has 0 tanks, and also both supports you listed are worse than Selena who's free. And then Nihil team is using teddy despite you listing multiple tanks and amps you could toss in that slot instead to get better buffs

[half steeple]

so i use selectors for qu & watanabe?

[lean pulsar]

These team ARE NOT pick and choose. You NEED all of them

[half steeple]

oh

kk tysm

[carmine reef]

the first "ult" that you press immediately on swap puts you into a general ult mode that you stay in for the whole rot
the second "ult" is hold ult which can be triggered as soon as you have the energy
the third "ult" is tap ult which puts you into fly to do swordwaves
the fourth "ult" is eclipse ult which requires you to be in fly

[coarse gorge]

Realistically how much diff can i see between basic abd atk on top reso for ss Lucia

[lean pulsar]

Not all of them have to be perfect but you need some of each team basically

[coarse gorge]

[lean pulsar]

Except the affix ones, those have no replacements

[boreal lynx]

alr

[naive apex]

not a lot, but also atk resos are piss easy to get because it's, I think, 3/8 rolls?

[half steeple]

is teddy that bad?

[coarse gorge]

Tru

[carmine reef]

it actually should be pretty big lol

[lean pulsar]

Not a tank

Use 21

[broken wadi]

btw is the hold out where u fly arround and shoot enemies ever used lol?

[naive apex]

well for your dark team not having a tank is a massive mistake, no matter who you're booting out. and dark selena is free and should be better than either A rank

[river nymph]

who is your guys fav in the stylish mode?

[boreal lynx]

between wanshis and alisa's sig whos should i get

[hazy cypress]

any of the usual billi billi people awake rn?

[half steeple]

where do i use teddy i wanted to use her somewhere bc she’s my only SSS+

[still bolt]

Palefire

[hazy cypress]

palefire

[carmine reef]

yes dude it's in the rotation

[lean pulsar]

21, can you do something for me? Can you tank the dark team for me

[river nymph]

lee do be cooking

[lean pulsar]

Can you shred the opps for me

[half steeple]

is she just ass is that why i was given SSS+ for free?

[hazy cypress]

so much fun to play

[river nymph]

[still bolt]

[worthy gulch]

lmao

[carmine reef]

if you have qu harmo already then prolly alisa

[shy shore]

Well, I am talking mostly in the form of the fundamental investment, I don't really believe Vets have that much over new players, heck because the game now has more 1st BC rewards, you have more opportunities to pull for more sigs for example, and eventually the teams will create themselves, albeit it will take time.

[river nymph]

i feel like him and vera are the most fun

[half steeple]

kk i get dark selena then

[keen meteor]

Where is xenolao's wz stream

[hazy cypress]

yep

[naive apex]

and then in the nihil team, Luna's gimmick is that you ignore elements so you just toss in the strongest (non-physical) tank/amp debuff you've got. Teddy is bait

[carmine reef]

nope. veterans have more time to accumulate excess bc, plus they can use old sigs as reso fodders

[river nymph]

im an event player now

[keen meteor]

[lean pulsar]

This game's backlog of permanent BC sources are a little slim

[carmine reef]

and everyone got the new player rewards when they were reworked

[river nymph]

they should remove wz and put the stylish mode instead

[half steeple]

so should i use luna with ayla and who else?

[naive apex]

I haven't played with Ishmael who copies the role of the missing team member so I don't know who's the strongest pair you've got. But I wouldn't be surprised if it was Wata or Wanshi.

[carmine reef]

not to mention old players also get lots of time-limited rewards

there's literally no aspect of this game in which a new player is better than a long term player that is active

[still bolt]

That'd be so freaking good

[boreal lynx]

oki ty

[still bolt]

Forcing people to actually learn boss moves

[meager iris]

you malding stylish mode? '

[keen meteor]

The bald will still be there

[carmine reef]

ish takes tank slot in void

[river nymph]

its pretty fun ngl

[naive apex]

well if you had ishmael it would be ishmael + somebody. (don't know who's strongest). With current global patch no ishmael it's your strongest tank + strongest amp. Which would be Watanabe/Wanshi + Kaleido/Empyrea depending on investment. But for you it's pretty guaranteed it's Kaleido

[meager iris]

nah I don't like it

[lean pulsar]

NGL this primal projection has moves

[worthy gulch]

"parry 200 times" = fun

[lean pulsar]

You dodge when it flashes

[naive apex]

didn't know that, and doesn't it also depend on who you own and the char investment? If you've got strong tanks and garbo amps, couldn't that change things?

[half steeple]

https://huaxu.app/na/players/26257627/characters

i have like no characters lol i joined during new luna’s patch im trying not to miss any new units

[carmine reef]

for most people their void team next patch is pretty clear cut

[river nymph]

why not

[carmine reef]

it will be luna ish lilith

[naive apex]

well if you're talking about global then you won't have ishmael obviously. but you mentioned so I wasn't sure

[carmine reef]

nope it doesn't

[lean pulsar]

Lee run is about 50 parries in 1 run

[carmine reef]

do you want the full explanation as to why

[half steeple]

i will use wanshi and ayla with luna bc that’s the best i got rn lol

[quaint elk]

lilith will be free S rank, right?

[naive apex]

just a quick one is fine

[still bolt]

• it's the leap palefire allowing you to still be on shooting mode while dodging

Fun as hell

[broken wadi]

why is the hold ult used in 2nd rot? but not first?

[naive apex]

Oh, is it because Lilith is right next to her patch?

[half steeple]

is lilith free?

[carmine reef]

okay, tl;dr ish is dps no matter what so she needs her sig mem in void no matter what, if she's the amp then nobody can hold the support mems because the tank also needs to hold sig mem for off field shred

[vague nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-memes-guh-gif-14088075795709590703

[naive apex]

so because nobody has room for the random support memories if she's taking amp slot?

[carmine reef]

correct

[naive apex]

makes sense

[lament yoke]

It must be nice to have wata.... These Bears in void wz aaahhhh

[carmine reef]

cause all the tanks' off field shred is tied to their 4pc sig mem

[lament yoke]

Wanshi

[half steeple]

will lilith replace dark selena??

[naive apex]

didn't notice that about the gen2/3

[carmine reef]

yes

[still bolt]

Yes

[half steeple]

or karineina

[naive apex]

yep

[lean pulsar]

Yeah wata fixes that issue :clueless:

[carmine reef]

it's not the case for karenina

[half steeple]

so should i get karenina not dark selena?

[naive apex]

no, all your teams want 1 tank and 1 support/amp. (amps better)

[raw swift]

Is this score bad for SSS pyro? Or am I able to go higher?
322 120 111

[carmine reef]

cause hers is even less accessible

scire's off field shred is tied to ss3 instead of to sig mem

[half steeple]

kk

[lean pulsar]

Damn thats good for ss pyro

[naive apex]

dark selena is literally free. you play the recitativo game mode and get her

[raw swift]

Ok time to mald again

[naive apex]

if you don't have Karenina tank, you can use 21 who's A rank

[carmine reef]

that's my score with 222 115 110

[meager iris]

idk didn't play it for long ig I don't know what to do

[naive apex]

but you want a tank and amplifier/support on the team because of the buffs/debuffs.

[half steeple]

kk tysm

[stray siren]

Higher

[river nymph]

[half steeple]

so just collect these guys and all new units that come??

[carmine reef]

ye

[raw swift]

So I definitely can get higher

[carmine reef]

i mean you won't have all of them

[raw swift]

Back to malding I go

[carmine reef]

just keep pulling the new units and eventually the old units you don't have will get replaced

or you'll get some of them for free here and there

[half steeple]

kk

[nimble turtle]

hi I'm new, does thje game doesn't allow using left click to auto atk? only J?

[naive apex]

if you aren't spending money you'll only be able to get all the new ones and the rest is free stuff/budget A-ranks

[lament yoke]

[naive apex]

but like now we have some free amps and also Wanshi tank.

[stray siren]

Good luck, i just unlocked Lucia, so i need to learn wata shakes

[raw swift]

like around 4m?

[turbid depot]

I pulled Cw and I got stigmata on Standard ig I'm bricked

[carmine reef]

oh i just realized i didn't answer something

[naive apex]

oh also pretty good time because Stigmata is free from event this patch and later Alpha and 21 Feral free too.

[night plank]

Who should I get? I already have lee entropy

[half steeple]

should i be using my selector on watanabe and my selena patch selector on qu?

[naive apex]

Wanshi is free from dorm so absolutely not

[lament yoke]

Oh that's not a problem, I got cw too
Now we homies

[carmine reef]

hold ult is used every other swap starting from 2nd bc it generates 3 orbs
it isnt' used in the opener because it's weaker

[half steeple]

i mean the fire tank man

i typed wrong one

[night plank]

Wdym whale 😭

[stray siren]

4/4.2 maybe

[raw swift]

Thank youuu, and I kinda know how to shakes Wata now... But problem is, I sometimes accidentally do hold basic instead of hold dodge

[raw swift]

[carmine reef]

but YOU should probably use hold ult in your opener since you're not ss0 @broken wadi

[half steeple]

bc we get selector reset soon & then another selector so i could get watanabe and qu

[naive apex]

I do not know the current recommendations for the selectors. I know Watanabe is good but I don't know how high priority he is now that Lucia is taking the main dps role, so ask others.

[half steeple]

but idk what to get bc im missing so much

[turbid depot]

Standard selector?

[river nymph]

[carmine reef]

wata is still pretty important cause lucia solo sucks

[raw swift]

lag

[vague nebula]

this is oldge

[turbid depot]

Iirc I picked stigmata there

Did got her on first multi

[half steeple]

yes standard selector resets on ishmael and then during selena patch we get selector up to qu in global

[stray siren]

Lucia SSS allows you to be much faster, so, you should achieve it

[half steeple]

i’m tryna plan how to use it

[lean pulsar]

it's not old its global

[half steeple]

idk what to get bc im missing so much

[carmine reef]

sss should be much much higher than 4.2 no?

4.2 is like ss3 score

[stray siren]

But, SS Wata and Liv

[lament yoke]

Why this week void feel shitttier aaahhh

[raw swift]

My unc is like 2s

[stray siren]

[carmine reef]

yeah, 4.2 is 2.322 score lol

[vague nebula]

who's the best ss3 pyroath, geiravor, piano, ishmael?

[carmine reef]

if my liv had sig i would already be like 3.7 with full ss0 team lol

[turbid depot]

Am I bricced or I can manage somehow?

[stray siren]

Lmao, so yes

[raw swift]

Ok back to malding I goooo

[worthy gulch]

what was the command to show the sheet that describes the invest numbers ?

[carmine reef]

yeah so sss lucia should be way higher

[vague nebula]

[worthy gulch]

cheeers tomodachi

[carmine reef]

actually 4.2 is even an ss0 score too if you have high resos and 3s empy like dazzal does

[stray siren]

Sss brick

[lean pulsar]

Pyro > selena > ishy > vera from what Ive gathered in this channel

[naive apex]

I guess Watanabe or Qu would be decent selector choices? But please don't take that as actual advice. You've already got Lamia, Hanying and Luna so that's 3 elements dealt with, and this patch we're getting fire and lightning main from the banner

[lament yoke]

Tf tomodachi

[carmine reef]

cause dazzal said he got 4.3m with 223 222

[lament yoke]

Friendship

Oh damn

[river nymph]

does yata need dlt?

[stray siren]

So yea, SSS lu should be 4.8/5 at least

[carmine reef]

yeah for sure

[stray siren]

Only Crimson knows

[half steeple]

so all i really need is qu shu?

[river nymph]

[naive apex]

and Watanabe

[half steeple]

kk tysm

so follow this?

[lean pulsar]

Qu is lower prio than watanabe or luna. But still needed

[naive apex]

I think that seems fine advice

[boreal lynx]

can ss3 hanying solo with 4x patton and dlt

[raw swift]

Pyroath SS3
or
SS Nanami and SS Pyroath?

[lean pulsar]

New chars

always new chars

[naive apex]

Note all the free characters available in the dorm shop + Selena Capriccio in the Recitativo game mode

[raw swift]

They're both new.

[stray siren]

SS both

[raw swift]

Say less.

[lean pulsar]

2nd one isnt new its a dupe

[naive apex]

If you don't pull every new S-rank that gets released you get bricked

[half steeple]

i just got everyone from the dorm i didn’t know we could get selena from that game mode

[raw swift]

NanaKnight.

[raw swift]

I intend on pulling them both already.

[naive apex]

Okay but you only listed Pyro in the SS3 implying you aren't getting the other one...

SS you'll get with skulls anyway

[worthy gulch]

das crazy i gotta game my game up then, i got 2.2m ony my first try with 321 110 111 but i got echo and not empy, still should be able to atleast 4m tho ig ?

[turbid depot]

Should I skull SS pyrooath or pull dupli?

Story kinna gives few bc knowing my poop luck I'm cooked

[naive apex]

never pull duplicates unless you spend money

[lament yoke]

Lesgoooooooo

[naive apex]

So pull one copy of new S-ranks and then slowly use your skulls to get them to SS in whatever the priority is

[turbid depot]

I pulled SS luna

• 6s weap

[carmine reef]

yikes

[naive apex]

If you spend money then you can think about getting the weapons or SS3

[carmine reef]

luna has to be the worst choice for that too lmao

[stray siren]

Hard to say, just try to make the rotation based on Lu + Wata, without time for Alisa to touch the battlefield

[turbid depot]

Luna the red one

[carmine reef]

i know

[turbid depot]

[carmine reef]

luna is the worst choice to pull a single dupe for

[naive apex]

well I went SS3 Luna because I like her, but I thought the SS3 was gonna be bigger kekw

[carmine reef]

cause her ss3 is dogwater

[burnt sundial]

what on earth
why

[naive apex]

money unwell spent

[carmine reef]

it's like the least impactful ss3 of any new unit

[burnt sundial]

why are there random ahh numbers

[naive apex]

TBF I didn't get punished because I got the second copy at 20, which was my 2nd ever early pull.

[turbid depot]

Same

[carmine reef]

it's always the bad decisions that get rewarded

[turbid depot]

I used about 60 pulls SS + weap

[carmine reef]

i've yet to hit a single early on themed banner in my life

[naive apex]

or just weird luck, because in the basic weapon banner, last 10 pulls I've gotten 3 random 6*

[boreal lynx]

anyone

[lament yoke]

~~God trying to make us equal ~~

[carmine reef]

even ss0 can solo so yes

[quaint elk]

SS you have guaranteed as f2p from PPC skulls, it'll take just a little time to collect them

[burnt sundial]

do thirty pulls if no early then wait

[turbid depot]

You're lucky and unlucky ig since you lost the 80/20 was it

[boreal lynx]

i just wanted to know before i switched from cottie

[buoyant hornet]

Hanying can never solo without cottie

[carmine reef]

i don't think it would be better though

she can solo with patton but it's a lot slower

[lean pulsar]

She can. Just attack for 15 seconds

[carmine reef]

which i guess is basically the same as not being able to do it

[naive apex]

I don't even know how to do double ult without running out of orbs so I can't imagine how much basic attacing you have to do for solo

[carmine reef]

you don't even know how to double ult?

[lean pulsar]

Probably on par with alissa dps

[naive apex]

Well TBF solo Hanying is probably still more dps than gen1 units

[carmine reef]

you wish
dysfunctional hanying still twice as much dmg as alisa

[barren wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-punishing-gray-raven-pgr-lucia-gif-16913258658160208122

[lean pulsar]

So I should SS alissa from ppc?

[lean pulsar]

noted

[carmine reef]

that's cool that you took the opposite of what i said

[lean pulsar]

Too late nanaknight stuck at S0 now

I mean I have 1000 scars it's either her or balter

[naive apex]

I'm so used to Cottie Watanabe that I'm derping the non-Cottie rotation

[naive apex]

Damn, I can't even pull Nanami yet! You're ahead of the curve!

[boreal lynx]

i should of finished reading before switching her harmo

[broken wadi]

can lucia even qte? like i dont think she has a way to 3ping

oh yeah ty for prev resopnse zexous

[left fern]

Why is Voodoo in CR (Via past CR function) such a BS fight?
SHe oneshots every char, is able to do 3-6K damage in one hits and is much faster and more agressive than in PPC or even Stronghold

[carmine reef]

it was kind of my fault too tbh

[buoyant hornet]

Gonna be an energy disaster

[carmine reef]

i focused on the rank part and not on the patton part

[carmine reef]

idk i'm trying it rn it's not the worst

[quaint elk]

ah, one question, which cub is most worth SS, corvus, guardrake or dreamwing? I finally got enough ore for 60 shards

[naive apex]

all the new characters have auto-triggering qtes lol

often on S5

[broken wadi]

damn

[worthy gulch]

how many ores is that ?

[naive apex]

Lucia's S5 says FOUR different things activate QTEs lol

[river nymph]

[quaint elk]

6 million lol

[carmine reef]

all the sig cubs ss unlock the same passives

so just decide whichever character you want to make stronger

they'll be receiving the same buff

[naive apex]

What's the third strongest CUB after Nanami/Wanshi?

including near future

[carmine reef]

idk but i think lucia is a good pick cause she's in two teams and those two teams are some of the highest scoring

like i said, ss unlocks the same passives

[naive apex]

You know, honestly it might be Qu just so I can stop hearing Seeshell noises 24/7

[carmine reef]

so there is no "strongest cub" or not

[lean pulsar]

ideally the ones that do the highest damage in their teams

[carmine reef]

it's just about who you want to give the boost

[naive apex]

Not the most damage, but preventing the most eardrum damage

[lean pulsar]

their cubs are usually worth thr most

[quaint elk]

okay, thanks

[buoyant hornet]

If you're f2p you might wanna save to get 3 copies of a cub and recycle it into another cub you don't have

[naive apex]

You try playing Qu with Seeshell and all you hear is <bwabwabwabwa pew pew pew pew pew bwabwabwabwa pew pew pew pew pes>

[carmine reef]

i had never used seeshell on my own account before so i never heard it until i was playing ice on someone else's account

i was so insanely confused

[lean pulsar]

Wtf

[buoyant hornet]

Mine lol

[carmine reef]

YES

[lean pulsar]

I need to try it now

[boreal lynx]

its actually not tht bad so ima keep it

[carmine reef]

it was yours you're right

[buoyant hornet]

You were so weirded out by it I remember LMAO

[quaint elk]

oh, thanks, that would be awesome

[naive apex]

Another really funny one is Nitor the cat which I randomly pulled on a fail. It's not obnoxious but the loud "Meow!" while somebody is busy ulting is funny

[buoyant hornet]

You didn't know where the sound was coming from

[carmine reef]

i was like DAMN this guy got some video game skin or something

[naive apex]

Seeshell is so obnoxious

And you overcap all the charges because the skill takes 300 years to finish

[buoyant hornet]

Ye but make sure to buy within the maximum discount (for each cub in ore shop, after you buy 60 shards the discount value gets reduced)

So for example get 60 shards of one cub and 30 of another one

[lean pulsar]

Yo wtf is this cub

[burnt sundial]

funny idea (I would hate for this to work)
would playing ion Pyroath in a normal lighting team work bc of how high the multipliyers for Pyroath is

[lean pulsar]

seashell lmao

[broken wadi]

do weapons matter for qte botsd

[burnt sundial]

compared to cw

[dapper lotus]

Is there such a thing like "invite a friend" in PGR?

[naive apex]

make sure you pick the second skill

[lean pulsar]

Lemme try

[buoyant hornet]

It's actually the best A rank cub after Lingya

[carmine reef]

i just checked the shop bc of this and realized kuro completely miswrote the discounts

[lean pulsar]

I pulled it just yesterday

[buoyant hornet]

On characters like qu and ayla especially, they easily proc its max edb buff

[naive apex]

Seeshell deals the most damage. Just to eardrums, not enemies

[buoyant hornet]

Ore shop?

[carmine reef]

they wrote 65% off but it's 65% of the price, aka 35% off lmao

fkn scammers

[lean pulsar]

yeah thats how much is left

not how much it's off

standard kuro. Domain of forgery core

[naive apex]

The most Kuro thing is Data Attack

[lean pulsar]

wuwa mat stages are still called domain of forgery

I'm waiting for someone to look up what forgery is

[buoyant hornet]

LMAOOO

[naive apex]

That's when you hire that woman from Spyx family, obviously

[carmine reef]

fr dude i was staring at it trying to figure out how it lined up with what you said

[buoyant hornet]

I STILL need to understand wtf is data attack

[naive apex]

we all do

I think Kuro does too

[buoyant hornet]

LMAOO

[carmine reef]

feyer what's your fire score

[naive apex]

It's really funny that they gave Hanying the Yor Forger ult

[dreamy pelican]

average kuso

[buoyant hornet]

R1 lucia hero acc is 3.5-3.6m and 5* legend is 2.5m

[naive apex]

Based on his name, it's gotta be 100%

[carmine reef]

[buoyant hornet]

I still think I'm not playing fire quite right

[carmine reef]

well 3.5m is what i got so

[river nymph]

how much serum do we need to spend for s+ yat?

[carmine reef]

probably a couple thousand

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah my r1 h1 empy vs your 5* empy

Although my Lucia is cubless idk if that balances it out

[carmine reef]

it probably balances out

[naive apex]

Well I got 2.7M with really garbage SS3 Lucia rotation

[carmine reef]

[dreamy pelican]

[carmine reef]

solo or swap

[naive apex]

I was swapping

[carmine reef]

you gotta hit the books kid

[dreamy pelican]

[carmine reef]

you're like 2m below your goal

[dreamy pelican]

and i thought me getting 3.5 was bad

[frozen creek]

Pull ss3 or brick

[naive apex]

I literally only just learned not to screw it up constantly

[carmine reef]

that's fair i guess

my very first run with lucia was like 2.5

[dreamy pelican]

if you're hitting 2.7

then you're still screwing something up if im being honest

my first was 3.1

[carmine reef]

so i climbed up an extra 1m score

[naive apex]

I got 2.7 on the first time I actually managed to do the rotation

[buoyant hornet]

Fire team is mad confusing and shakes wata makes it x10 worse

[naive apex]

I think I'm also too slow on the cottieless Wata

[carmine reef]

it's so fun though

i loooooove how fast the team rot is

[dreamy pelican]

feyer you should do a shakes wata copypasta atp

[river nymph]

its 6k

[naive apex]

I've only got DLT on my Lucia. I don't put other reso on attackers

[buoyant hornet]

I hope I enjoy it more eventually because shakes wata is really ruining it for me rn lmao, even months into playing him it's still really stressful and easy to mess up

[dreamy pelican]

i just love fire swap gameplay loop in general

[frozen creek]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1220854007380180992.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=sideeye

[lean pulsar]

Coomer moment

[buoyant hornet]

Real tbh

[dreamy pelican]

[carmine reef]

yeah idk it's probably just different things we value, i personally really enjoy shakes wata bc of how high skill expression it is

[modern nacelle]

[buoyant hornet]

I will create a beautiful copypasta for shakes wata and daren slander

[naive apex]

what skill expression is there?

[carmine reef]

and i enjoy it even more now that we actually need to do it

[lean pulsar]

Vera will fix him

[dreamy pelican]

[naive apex]

you ping a few extra times because you have no energy?

[river nymph]

do people like watching pgr gacha videos?

[naive apex]

is that skill?

[broken wadi]

is the memory rescue story important?

[carmine reef]

going fast

[dreamy pelican]

im gonna enjoy fire even more with vera coming up

[boreal lynx]

do i get ss3 lucia, nanami, or neither, i have enough for nanaknights sig and cub too

[carmine reef]

cancelling everything fast enough is not easy

[dreamy pelican]

huh???

[buoyant hornet]

I enjoyed shakes wata when he was main dps because you didn't have to get carpal tunnel to avoid overlap with Lucia

[carmine reef]

@naive apex have you tried playing shakes wata?

[dreamy pelican]

shakes wata is pretty hard to execute consistently ngl

[buoyant hornet]

But as subdps he's horrid

[naive apex]

yep I have and it's annoying

[dreamy pelican]

but its so flashy and cool

[dreamy pelican]

so you must know that that's the skill expression part

[carmine reef]

can you fit both ults (3 and 5) into 10 seconds?

[naive apex]

Isn't Cottie Wata flashier?

probably not

[carmine reef]

....flashier? when was that the conversation? also, no?

[worthy gulch]

i got 2.2 with sss lucia so dont worry

[dreamy pelican]

it was part of the convo when i brought it up

[formal void]

What buttons do you guys have bound for orbs

[carmine reef]

i don't even know what you mean by flashy but i wouldn't agree anyway cause cottie is easier

[dreamy pelican]

flashy, as in it looks damn cool

[naive apex]

I need to do it faster, but it doesn't feel more skillful. It feels less.

[quaint elk]

from what I remember not really, but good luck with Aife :)

[carmine reef]

uhh

[naive apex]

just need to get used to it

[dreamy pelican]

[carmine reef]

yeah idk about that one

maybe you feel less skillful cause you aren't doing it skillfully

for me i feel way better on shakes knowing that it takes more skill to pull it off and that i can actually do it

[broken wadi]

it cant be that hard, like i started an entire 6 days ago

[boreal lynx]

sm1

[formal void]

Zexlao please tell me ur orb key binds

[carmine reef]

i don't do anything special, just 1-8 like default

[dreamy pelican]

there are some things that are subjective

but this is a pretty objective question. and this answer is hella wrong

[carmine reef]

before you ask, my hands are quite large

[naive apex]

I kept my orbs on the 1-8

[lean pulsar]

Shakes is hard af on phone for me

[formal void]

Alr

[naive apex]

before you ask, I've played too many mmos that's standard

[dreamy pelican]

can you gimme a big squeezy hug

[lean pulsar]

but I often pull it off in time

[formal void]

I’ll try the default

[carmine reef]

with just my hands?

you want me to squeeze you with my large hands?

that's not a hug anymore compadre

[dreamy pelican]

you could squish me if you want to as well

im just too touch starved to care

[quaint elk]

well, it kinda is, I know at least one youtuber who gave up playing because of it 🤣

[carmine reef]

tbh the only thing i changed from default is putting ult on mouse4
and also i put rapidfire on mouse5 but that's almost never used

[worthy gulch]

saddest thing ive read all day

[broken wadi]

bro it died before i finished 1 luna rota

[formal void]

What does rapid fire do?

[dreamy pelican]

my orbs are 1-5, then xvc

[carmine reef]

you hold it down and it acts like it's spamming basic attack

[formal void]

O

[dreamy pelican]

wait until you hear about my sx life

[carmine reef]

useful for daren spin (but i don't have capri so unusable until lilth)
and for if wata parry into basic (but parry into blaze is just better so lol)

[naive apex]

interesting

[broken wadi]

actually? who

[lean pulsar]

Btch

[naive apex]

I was wondering if it was that word

[lean pulsar]

Yeah

[quaint elk]

well, Luna OP, ofc, I did it with astral, 21 and rozen, wasn't easy

[broken wadi]

lol

[dreamy pelican]

the thing that im confused with is that, if you are executing the rot correctly, and the only problem is speed, there's no way the difference in score is close to 2 mil

[naive apex]

it's weird for that to be in the automod filter compared to all the other swear words that fly free

[broken wadi]

wat level?

[carmine reef]

most swear words don't fly free though

it's just ass, and that's cause it's too common as a 3 letter sequence in other words

[dreamy pelican]

yeah, the only one i know is dogshit

[carmine reef]

that one honestly i have no idea how it even flies through

[quaint elk]

I don't remember now, but below recommended for sure

[shy jackal]

Aight, cmere then

[dreamy pelican]

me neither

[dreamy pelican]

[carmine reef]

i don't like that

[naive apex]

It was still an instant big upgrade from Lee team

[spice phoenix]

NANI???
With rosters like this, how can someone achieve 2.8 mil on Hero fire wz and reign top score?
Mine is short only on Liv Amp being S, but I don’t think that’d be much of a power gap. Still, I’m on 1.8 mil and I always do 2 ult rotation on Lucia and uncle each

Fluctuation this week is 326.2, it’s tough!

Is there something that I need to do differently bois?

[shy jackal]

What

I thought you were touch starved

[dreamy pelican]

im kms after the first line

[lament yoke]

Sacrificing few bullets on wanshi for extra sec did work (for me cuz I'm trying to get one more wave) but idk if it's viable....

[naive apex]

Oh yeah, I'm #2 in hero. Huh.

[dreamy pelican]

i am

[carmine reef]

lol? they should be even higher than 2.8 with that

[naive apex]

that's surprising

[carmine reef]

unless every single one of those is 5*

[lean pulsar]

SS liv is luxury

[dreamy pelican]

hero bracket does that sometimes

[carmine reef]

me when i misinfo

[lean pulsar]

You dont even see sub ranks either

[foggy ridge]

im pretty sure they can defo get 3m with that

[carmine reef]

ss liv is literally the most mandatory rank

[lean pulsar]

it's luxury, not optional

[foggy ridge]

unless ss3 pyro and sss empy is too harsh of a difference

[carmine reef]

dude

[dreamy pelican]

like im 8m and im somehow 100k away from number 1 in my bracket

[lean pulsar]

not free

[carmine reef]

have you read ss empy LMAO

[lean pulsar]

costs stuff

[carmine reef]

she's literally not usable without ss

[dreamy pelican]

mf what

[carmine reef]

you literally wouldn't put her in the team at s

[shy jackal]

Then why the hesitation

[lean pulsar]

I guess luxury isn't the right word

[foggy ridge]

s empy is not a unit

[carmine reef]

i'm begging yall to not spout sht off without knowing what you're talking about in here

s empy literally doesn't give a fire buff

[dreamy pelican]

i wasnt, but i can see how it looked like it

[lean pulsar]

SS liv is not poverty. This is better?

[foggy ridge]

ss liv is poverty 😭

[lean pulsar]

it's not a run off the mill new account

[broken wadi]

Oh just realized dodge cancelling exists with luna with 3 pings at least... Is it worth while to dodge cancel or do i lose too much dmg?

[lean pulsar]

it's not I farmed for that 😭😭😭

[carmine reef]

you should be dodge cancelling all of the 3 pings always

[lean pulsar]

please

[dreamy pelican]

ss liv is basic humans right though, so i guess you can say that it is poverty

[worthy gulch]

well i dont even have empy so, whats below poverty ? homeless?

[shy jackal]

Dodge cancel all pings

[foggy ridge]

dodge cancel every fkn orb you see with luna

[shy jackal]

Their damage isn't worth it

[chrome flame]

how many endgame does pgr have

[foggy ridge]

non existant

[dreamy pelican]

some characters live and die by it, and some dont

its your job to learn them yourself though

[carmine reef]

luna dodge cancels so much you literally run out of dodge gauge

[dreamy pelican]

luna and cw are prime examples of chars that dodge cancel everything

and others like lamia only dodge cancel certain things

[foggy ridge]

you dont lost out on damage doing it. most of the damage is from her ults and that one hold ba

[dreamy pelican]

well, thats a low ball since lamia only has one colour orb to dodge at a time

[foggy ridge]

well i wouldnt say most, all of it

[worthy gulch]

whats a realistic score goal for luci wata echo team 321 110 111 do u think ?

[dreamy pelican]

you cant say all of it if you cant even dodge blue orb in mermaid form

[broken wadi]

does weapon matter for A rank qte bots? cause i dont c the weapon in the /build thingy

[foggy ridge]

[frozen creek]

no

[lean pulsar]

Wait who did you get from the selector that was up to ayla

[carmine reef]

you can tho

[foggy ridge]

sorry i meant luna specifically

also i only dodge blue on her non fish form

[dreamy pelican]

wait fr? doesnt it have no anim?

[carmine reef]

yeah like

there's no point to doing it in mermaid form

but you can do it

[dreamy pelican]

i only dodge yellow and intro

[frozen creek]

dodging blue

[carmine reef]

you should be dodge cancelling blues in human form though if you're doing 2x3b

[dreamy pelican]

[carmine reef]

well the first set

if you're in human form and you're going to do 2x3b t2, you should dodge cancel the first 3b

[foggy ridge]

i hope lamia gets a leap that removes the brick orbs in her 2nd ult form

[frozen creek]

just get sss

[carmine reef]

otherwise you're stuck waiting for the tidal to register both 3p

[frozen creek]

red orbs needed for damage sometimes

[foggy ridge]

3blue supremacy

[carmine reef]

yeah red is more dmg than blue if you're ending a sequence with it

[frozen creek]

had a couple times where bosses or wz waves needed the 3 red to die

[carmine reef]

red into tidal, red into ult, are more dmg than blues

[spice phoenix]

Btw, this is a ss3 Lucia, ss0 uncle and ss2 Liv, all sig and 4 pact station buff. Tell me bois, how could this guy make it to 2.9 mil?

[carmine reef]

cause they don't get canceled by tidal or ult

the damage, i mean

but dodge cancels the damage on red

so it's more dmg to do red>tidal or red>ult

[foggy ridge]

3 blue supremacy

https://tenor.com/view/forrest-gump-running-me-when-im-late-tom-hanks-gif-5144739

[carmine reef]

did you like not read any of our replies orrrrr what

[lean pulsar]

Skill issue

[naive apex]

second attempt went up to 3.2M fire

[carmine reef]

are you just here to troll or smth

[worthy gulch]

which selector ru talkng about ?

[foggy ridge]

git gud

and im not being ironic

[rocky wedge]

oh SS? she is already much weaker than SS lilith - even SS ishmael can be better with R2

[lean pulsar]

The one thay was up to ayla

[clever prism]

I just got washi, is 5s weapon from shop enough?

[ruby minnow]

global cant read

[carmine reef]

it will have to be enough if you can't afford his sig

[dreamy pelican]

'better late than never!' ahh reply 😭💔

[clever prism]

Thanks

[rocky wedge]

ye i was at work

i actually do my job xd

[dreamy pelican]

[ruby minnow]

snazz always grinding

[foggy ridge]

lets go we grinding irl bc

[dreamy pelican]

so, for my account, i should bring sss lillith into void

[dreamy pelican]

what if i grind you

[rocky wedge]

well even SS yes

[worthy gulch]

i legit cant remember which selector ur talking about, i picked up a bunch till now. i started in Hany patch tho, feb 20th

[foggy ridge]

i8 mean what

[rocky wedge]

lilith has 20% atk already at SS from amp passive

[dreamy pelican]

[lean pulsar]

it was luna patch iirc. From an event

[vale raft]

Lilith: Daemonissa

Skill - Class Passive (Lv. 18)

Amplifier

All switched-in members gain an extra 20.0% ATK and 20.0% Elemental DMG Bonus of the Amplifier's element for 10s. If Lilith: Daemonissa has a Trickery Mark, her Element is regarded as Lightning.

[carmine reef]

snazz i think the question was bc of ss3 ish

[rocky wedge]

oh and ele too

[worthy gulch]

aaah then i never got it, if i had that selector i wudve gotten empy

[dreamy pelican]

it was

[half steeple]

does lamia need teammates?

[carmine reef]

bruh everyone needs teammates

[rocky wedge]

but thats in void no

ish will be void tank in void

[spice phoenix]

The whole dialogue of u trying to argue for Liv’s human right doesn’t answer that question bruv
Stop trying to gaslight me

[lean pulsar]

Unfortunatelt lamia cant use teammates because they would drown /j

[formal void]

Except cw 🧱

[carmine reef]

yeah but the question is if using the lilith is worth the loss of 10% shred

bc ss3 ish would be copying scire

[half steeple]

r lamias teammates crossed out bc they free not bc they are like optional

[lean pulsar]

Daemonissa is free

[dreamy pelican]

bc they're old as fck or will be free

[lean pulsar]

Daren is in retirement home line

Soon™

[narrow pumice]

Need help with pyroath rotation, i cant seem to get the fadeway attack right to ult after. After using 9 pings + aa + ult , youtubers do hold-release-hold basic. Whats the correct timing when to do it? I cant seem do get it right

[dreamy pelican]

what invest is this again

[carmine reef]

use this

[formal void]

Hold release tap

[dreamy pelican]

ah nvm

the bigger dalaos helped ady

[carmine reef]

i dunno who has the hold release hold zaza goin on but it's wrong

[narrow pumice]

3S0

[dreamy pelican]

[carmine reef]

oh

sss don't use the rot i pasted then

but hold hold is still not a thing

[dreamy pelican]

follow empress or sumn

[carmine reef]

you would incorporate hold tap

[dreamy pelican]

[carmine reef]

as in, after the first hold ult, you hold basic and then tap basic to follow up on the hold basic

[mild egret]

What is hold release :/

[carmine reef]

they're trying to say do two holds in a row

which doesn't make sense

[narrow pumice]

Im also confused

[carmine reef]

yeah it's just wrong

[rocky wedge]

oh weird i thought ishmael wouldnt copy dark in void thats kinda lame

[formal void]

Hold ba > release(let go of) ba

[carmine reef]

well yeah ish needs an elemental teammate or else she has no class passive

[rocky wedge]

oh right ye cause of amp

[mild egret]

https://youtu.be/A9ite2VJgMQ?si=Br_QV-wnG201MbPT

[dreamy pelican]

i meann wouldnt the buffs given by sss lillith overcome the consequences of copying daren?

[rocky wedge]

forgot she doesnt care what the attacker is

[formal void]

They think the fade away atk is from hold ba

[narrow pumice]

how fast should this be?

[mild egret]

Everytime i hold ba ill just immediately hold ult for slash ult on the second rot

[carmine reef]

ik. that's why i'm saying it's just a tap basic

[formal void]

Pretty much instant

[mild egret]

Tap ba hold ba hold ult swap out

[carmine reef]

10% shred tho? and remember sss lilith is nto the same upgrade as the other sss amps

[lean pulsar]

Not pulling ss3 would overcome it

[narrow pumice]

okay let me try instant

[dreamy pelican]

so ur saying i have to anti whel

[lean pulsar]

f2p game

[carmine reef]

lilith already has 20% atk 20% dark on base, ss3 is 10% extra buff on heal and sss is the qte reset

[dreamy pelican]

huh??? what does sss lillith give then?

[lean pulsar]

frfr. All hail kuso

[lean pulsar]

10% qte buff

[dreamy pelican]

bless our supreme leader solon

[carmine reef]

heal buff is on ss3

sss is the qte cd reset

[rocky wedge]

sss has another heal buff

[lean pulsar]

Should be both

[zenith thorn]

no

[carmine reef]

oh mb

[rocky wedge]

its 20% atk 40% ele

[mild egret]

Imo the off sheild shred from gen 3 tank is much more better value, but idk if ish coppy it or not since its locked on the gen 3 tank sig mem

[dreamy pelican]

wtf cryo jumpscare

did you wake up for subuh orrr

[carmine reef]

i forgot about that

[rocky wedge]

20 / 30 would be

[zenith thorn]

no

[dreamy pelican]

[rocky wedge]

but shred is still very strong regardless

[lean pulsar]

Oh ss0 has No qte buff?

Wtf lmao

[carmine reef]

yes it does

[zenith thorn]

mf just read the kit

[lean pulsar]

I need to see the numbers again

[zenith thorn]

it's there

[dreamy pelican]

so. what now. what do i even do atp

this feels like my parents fighting at the dinner table over my choice of going to the school field trip

[zenith thorn]

for free

[rocky wedge]

oh ye her class doesnt get the buff

keep forgetting that lmao

she gets SSS amp class at SS but 10% more dark radi at ss3 and another 10% at SSS

[carmine reef]

it's not ss

she gets sss amp class at base

[rocky wedge]

oh ye mb lmao

ss is base in my mind rn

[carmine reef]

[lean pulsar]

20 at base
30 at Ss3
40 at SSS
Class is 20/20

[shy jackal]

I assume all gen 3 amps are just gonna have default sss amp class at base now? Lmao

[carmine reef]

yes

[lean pulsar]

Ok it's 20/60

[shy jackal]

Powercreep will powercreep

[rocky wedge]

its 20% diff overall to ayla

[lean pulsar]

That aint gonna change much. Only non free amp is of the element that doesn't swap

[carmine reef]

well only if you have another sss amp

[lean pulsar]

it's long term investment issue

[carmine reef]

which i'm not sure @dreamy pelican does

[rocky wedge]

and if the other persons strongest amp besides lilith is r1 SS empy, then lilith will for sure be better

[carmine reef]

if no other sss amp then it's a bigger gap

[dreamy pelican]

[dreamy pelican]

crappi