#📨・meta-help
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Never, its fun
R3 this R3 that, how about you R3 your life
true
waste ur bc on cw skin though 
r34 when



- "PGR is too hard for F2Ps"
- "Oh I have SSS R3 CW. I started around a month ago and decided to put everything on CW since she's so broken"
many such cases
Then have fun
Btw just don't skip characters it's gonna hurt
Skipping anyone hurts more than being burnt alive

imo i don't even see the "fun" gameplay, she is core spam
seeing the animation is cool for the first week yea, later is boring af
If you want actual fun gameplay try out Pyroath, Lucid Dreamer, Nanaknight
Skip what in this version?

u can tactical skip in global because of the increased pace and just get a unit from blue banner, but thats only once
anyone tbh
You don't have enough time to pull Hanying Solacetune unless you already did
Don't skip anyone next patch
I didn't pull anyone yet
Except that newbie banner
pull now if u start grinding now u will probably have enough time to get hanying
The 40 pull one?
Yes
Standard r&d tickets
He'll not even barely make it
I have only spent those so far
Yes who did you get from the selector
Yea who did you take in the S rank
For now yea with meta team
Have u done your dark wz yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ChllQyi0g0 @zenith kernel @limber yoke
BGM: ECLIPSE Sound Team - Bloodthirst
Shukra SS3 R2 4Jiboan 2Chenjiyuan 2Darwin SS cub
Lucid Dreamer SSS0 R1 4Liston 4Chenjiyuan SS cub
Kaleido SSS0 R2 4DaVinci 2Guinevere 2Einsteina Lingya cub
Oblivion, Indomitus, and Decryptor
Also why were u r asking r34
nope, ice too good i skip dark
I see 
what does 212 111 mean again
looking good so far
Might wanna backpull Solacetune for reset in Ishmael patch
ss0 attacker and amplifier, s0 tank, all r1

So im pulling hanying?
oh
nope, check the vid title again 
i think the harmony notation is unnecessary tbh, having sig resonances already means u have the harmony
How much do you have?
Nah
12k
see i always said i'd prefer if the third set of numbers referred to the cub
Oh wtf
And 3.2k event tickets
but nobody agreed with me
no it doesnt
or like compress it to 1.1/0.1 etc
Yea told you hell have enough but he shouldn't pull
It's not always the case especially ones that started late after Alisa patch

pls
Harmo is still quite hard to come by
we need this
oh right i didnt think of new players oops 
Which part of the story are you at?
or just another set of numbers 
Thx lao ur so good at this game
Chapter 7
22.32 115 110 100
2.12.13 3.12.13.1
Im just lvl 67
these notations are incomprehensible to anyone outside of the tryhard circle anyways
it looks like an ip 
you got ss3 reso?!
192.168.1.1

Nice
Okay if you want, you can pull for Solacetune now and spam skip chapters to get BC. You can get around 12k worth of BC from chasing the main story chapters up until the current chapter (30)
But what about serum?
......i just saw Cantarella's trailer
You got lots of those no?
my funds is ready for Cantarella

Ye
luckily this month is saving month 
Im saving 30 of em just incase
@ mods
Alright so from chapter 21 onwards, stories no longer cost serum. Also there are other side stories that also have BC like interludes, Extra Records and so on


Sorry my dog took over my body

Plus I’m guessing you haven’t touched rougelites yet such as Derived from Matrix and Cursed Waves, those also give some pulls
Damn, why didn't they do that earlier
They don't give pulls
They give anxiety
Why?
Because Kuro takes forever to make QOL updates I guess
those modes are quite possibly the easiest way to burn out though so dont rush those too hard
Cant we just spam battles and be done or something
I remember one of those moments when i was too broke, I scavenge BCs from Interlude 
Or it requires reading?
Energy cost in story is some bs. I guess it would prevent content to run out
Real
it just takes quite long to finish a run
1 stage 30bc too good ez resource speedrun
We can skip but it’s still boring af

Like I’d rather be doing something else but I still gotta grind this 

yeah after a certain amount of runs we should be able to just sweep it
or after unlocking all endings
like 3-4 sweeps per day so u can just do it passively
i enjoyed roguelike modes gameplay but kuro need to step up
its fun and not fun at the same time 
yooo lets goooo
Pilots for these modes wher
Hunter mommy figure 

What is interlude 
Can we get new weekly mode instead
another roguelike?!?!
I trust you with my sanity quesito
WTF

Ok let me finish up tonigh
Bro whaled without doing interludes BC
Ain’t no way
If its worse than dfm im not playing past 10 times lol
my fault gang
i tested in TW, and was less painful than DFM
I didnt side story at all yet
i still have more than half interlude untouch 
Paking whels
Wdym painful, dfm is peak
it's easier or quicker?
crused waves and recitativo are on dust
thats my emergency funds

quicker
DFM IS PEAK
Naisu
cw > dfm
thanks god
cradlePeak
When is anniversary, is it still July or has it changed since Sync?
rdf >
9 out 10 reasons its peak is jetavie 
Oh shoot I need to see TIAMOM in FGO
Bye
crimson weave > derived from matrix? 
Anniversary is fixed to patch actually, also changed due to sync
cringeson wave
alpha cw actually stands for alpha cursed waves cuz thats all shes good for 
damn
That can't be true if qu was 4th on cn
them big ass horns
Or was she 4.5 idek
rdf
4th, Pyroath was 4.5th and Ishmael 5th
For CN at least, global different
global shafted since ever

Mejor NADOTA, we say in spanish



ai cabron

me no sabes falar muy bien espanol


yuri did you see what i made today
no
gatos gordos party
i made enchiladas and mexican rice and beans

ive never eaten mexican food

come over
but enchiladas is pretty similar to som we do here
guys is this a flex
god i need a burger
no that's a coating sketch
i was talking toa guild mate and i saiid it was pretty ez to get skins
ive been just doing dorm dailies for like 3years and never used it
1 week in and people are saying I messed up, how messed up did I get?
Megawhel
Messed up as in your team is messed up?
Uhhh quite badly, not the worst but ain't mid either
Yes
rigor is replaced by the literal current patch character, and luminance is replaced by a literal free unit
and balter is free next patch
What ele is lumine I forgor
nearly spent everything to get their upgrades :<
phys
and yeah balter is free, and if you're a weak in that must mean you used standard for her?
How long have you been playing
New player or returning?
so yeah all 3 of those picks are misses
yes
Wdym their upgrades? Their ranks?
Restart
they said 1 week in
Kekw

everything, memory all of it
New brics before dinner already
Yeah honestly restarting is looking good
gahdamn
it's too bad too, if you had just done the right choice with the first account you could've still gotten hanying maybe
Memories are free but u shouldve asked before ruining ur account instead of after
but now you won't get her no matter what you do
Yeah and wasted a selector too
but i would still restart so i could use standard select on someone less useless
Like luna oblivion
How does feral sound?
where do I get those? I got mine on battlefield sim

Get her if she's in it
Not even restarting can give you hanying but at least you can choose an S rank again
Yeah that's what free is
Is luna in standard?
Ye
Obli? Yeah
U can get memories from the event shop
Idk if there is still a lvl limit to access that shop tho
That limit gets removed at some point
@bronze ledge restart
Yeah then your best choice is to restart and get luna oblivion from standard selector
Who's restarting? 
If you restart, you already know what to do and it will be easier to reach high level, have resources more efficiently and know who to choose 
it's not a problem for me to restart, I just wanna know if there's hope in that account
nope
21 21 21 21
-21 Savage
If you're asian I can help you with beginner stuff
All hope is lost bruther
Nope
Lumi is the worst option in that ticket
Kj predator instincts again
HAHAHA
Balter free next patch
Rigor replaced
Lumi? Are you kidding
If there were there would be no point restarting
whats 9+10
I actually thought it was the best
21
21
@bronze ledge
you stoopid
denrut evah selbat eht woh
yeah I effed up big time on that
Did someone tell u that or did u just guess?
Thanks I'm saving this
i mean, from that ticket, the 5 charas are useless, but lumi is practically powercreeped by a free unit farmable via dorm
I rely on my decisions
Save yourself

Unlucky decision
Time to make a new acc now lol
Don't
okay! idk if this has been answered already but will Yata's patch give enought resources to at least obtain S Nanaknight and her weap?
Next time pick cw
recommend me a team now that I know I can't trust myself
Now that you know you shouldn't ever again (in pgr
)
Is it better to use vouchers to aim for SSS Lucid Dreamer or SSS amps like Alisa/Kaleido?
Lucid first
Restart, save up bc and pull every new S rank
His 3s is more broken than sss amps
60 shards enough for 3S? Or is that including ppc skulls
he didn't even last a day smh
Uhhhhh she's free next patch + she's useless at low invest
Hi kuraisan
She is literally free next patch...
Ah ty ty
Yooo I need a mentor for rewards
yeah I'm not taking anyone at the moment 
Bruh
(Bianca soon to be replaced by selena in phys)
Wait what lvl r u
holy brick
96?97? I forgor
You're locked out of mentor at lvl 80 bruhh
82*
You graduated
Great I'm cucked out of it now
see y'all in a week chat
Istg if you send that gif again
I'm in love with it what can I say
no more free 6 star memory shards for you
gotta grind event stage like the rest of us nya
Get a good instructor first goddamnit
Wtf is even the context for that
It's a meme that's dead now
imma risk it, idek who I can trust
there are no good instructors
Bros not letting his prey slide 😭
Uh okay
they're all gone...reduced to atoms
I was hoping it's still big like the low taper fade
Im lucky enough my own students bring me new students
i just realized i pulled on this banner 2 years ago
should i continue?
The low taper fade meme is still MASSIVE and is FADING the other memes

i have two students from gph right now and both of them are like 2 weeks inactive 
how good is nanami sig
Gib them those pics
Cat pics
Is there an option to kick a student btw 1 of mines like 3 weeks afk now
yes
who knows when will it show up again
like i read the description and it doesn't even sound good besides harmo
what are you implying 
yes
Aight cool
my student is 8 months afk
I'm taking students (idk what I'm doing)
Are you sure bro didn't alt f4 irl
who should i choose tho
the option that i have is either lamia or wata
ykw I changed my mind can I be someones student
they probably just in labor 
You asian?
Don't be kj's
yes
What tf
lamia
you can breath in fire using Bridget
No turn back now don't be kj student
Asia has many players, you can prolly find gud ones in gph
Wtf

I'll try to 40 pull
brb
I help my students

why don't you help me
help yourself 
can anyone mentor me 
I've never seen one leave that basement after you took them there
Sure
imma need u then
great now send me $50 on zelle thanks

Brick inbound 🧱
I can barely manage 20 dollars from all the femboy cosplays, how tf am getting 50
Rip 21

Hello account, can you rate my chat 
Imma forward that steam link

-rizz/skibidi toilet
nya
Nyanpasu
nya! 
Your discord profile? Brick/10 it made me lag

miku is truly the ultimate call and response
everything purple smh
10/ðþɛœl·l
me when my friend gets back with her toxic ex for the 4th time
How many secs on hamlet hell ?
8 or bust 
oh i'm busting alright
Does alpha build remain diesel cottie even for umbra?
6
They need to start putting better stuff in the gacha, so sick of seeing mats and 4 star memory fodders
We don't have Umbra yet, so we don't know
Hmm ic.
Oka
Oh, i think Luna, but, i was joking, i think Luna is 7
you can use lamia too
Considering my only finished teams are fire and phy (ice doesn't have Qu, Dark has nothing xd and lightning doesn't have sig for alpha and furry 21). What should I use on hamlet?
I might have to use loona on tifa so
Guys, whats Reso for Nanami pulse? Core passive or Class skill?
Nanami what
why are you using pulse
my lamia did 8 
the answer is class but you shouldn't be using pulse regardless
7 doko
Nope not gonna be tbf cuz it's Lightning buff
I think it'll go Bathlon like how Balter goes Patton
Whale
#📨・bot-info but if you want to play nanami just play the better nanami coming up soon
Oh ya good point.
sp delay cringe 
Oblivion definitely
pulse sophia ayla 
Lamia? 
Fire, There is currently a physical boss, so using phys team in Hamlet is ruining your PPC
Why is my Luna looking white and gen 1

Aight thx.
you don't like the whites?
yessir, my loona not fat 
To support for Wata, I don't have Hyperreal and Nanamech
For some reason I thought sketch was fire weakness bruhdge
Luna is so mid, nanami is where its at
I mean I guess you sorta assumed with all the lava in the background
bridget is A rank and better than pulse
also wata is already tank so the third slot can be any fire unit
Preach brother
skych stage in on fire but thats about it
nanami 6s hamlet?
Yeah lol
Smh SSS Luna when
Nanami 6s my heart so good enough
and also lucia is coming out in a week
Oh I see, I didn't know Bridget is better, thanks bro, I'm gonna build her for now🙏
i mean i wouldn't really bother building any of those rn
like i said. lucia is coming out in a week
nah bro, i was deadge the whole luna patch. luckily kurai half res my account
i assume you have empy so you will have complete fire team
Wishing banner up rn 
I made it to legend and when I joined there were only 3 other people so I was feeling confident I could maybe get my first retain
Not anymore 
Yeah I already have her
yeah don't bother building any of the other lame units
lucia wata empy will be your fire team in a week, that's all you need tot hink about
nah wait for anniv
stocking up for midcia and nanamid
Ok thanks again😁
Top grade all? 
midcia ss6, nanamid top.
thats the original plan though, we'll see how it goes
Aight naisu

imajin top grade
Used luna, lamia, qu
All around 20 secs

on hamlet???
luna should be the fastest out of all
if all ss with respective teams
Hamlet yes
even cw is half that time on hamlet
Wtf
spam that 3ping
try pinging more 3 pings
more 3ping more dmg
Does Alisa need SS to just be qte bot rn?
and that 3ping needs to hit that dood
Dlt or atk reso on weap?
ss doesn't affect alisa's qte bot abilities
Lamia SS0 10s here
ss is to make her own rotation sustainable

Aight thankfully. I have no skulls if I want to make lucia SS lol.
She won't be qte bot
as an onfielder
depends on char.
tell me ur whole team lineup
8s 
is the bug fixed where the stacks werent applying when you spam orbs too fast?
I have to choose between her or Lucia+Nana+Wata even basically.
Sorry I don't have a pc or a good phone to do that
I have hit delay here
For lamia? Ye
S+ teddy no sig
S Daren, no sig
Ss R1 lamia, with cub
what about other teams?
Don't you have Luna
Ye
Better start malding
Does anyone have a video of Hamlet hell with 222 125 110 Void with Wata and Empy 
🐳
Ss3 wanshi no sig, cub yes
Ss3 luna r1, no cub
S cow, nothing
wata isnt the best for hamlet
this seems better honestly
they're just using wata as the tank
I'm using Wanshi for Tifa
Are you logging in
oh i missed the void part im blind
globlul moment
I can log out if you wanna
Nah
ban the pilots! 

Ban the pilots 
I was gonna show you the rot instead
ban the pilots! 
Hamlet with Luna
ban the pilots! 
Fr
Do you play on pc ?
You can fast dump Luna orbs and ult
No
Wtf whale
that won't even be near killing with his team
Is Alisa support build 4 sig+4 DV or 4 Phillip?
both, depends on what you doing
How is my luna not getting max stacks (300) and getting only 270 or staying at 150
So what are the usecases for both?
Ss with sig cottie
So he's stuck with 20s or rather with faster inputs 19s
Can't do much faster, right?
Are you doing
Swap > 3p > hold basic > ult > 3p > 3p > hold basic > ult ?
former is general build
latter is ppc build
4philip is used for ppc thing
4 phillip for some ppc strats when the 3rd member holds dv
the rest of the cases depends on your phy team, so can't tell without knowing that
but with full phy team, Alisa uses dv in other cases
For 300 yes
Yea so you should be getting 300
i would only recommend 4phillip when you know how snd when to use it

u missed the hold basic?
is she running sig or smthin
Gonna bully hamlet after reset and try this again
Idek bro
I think I can get 40k before next patch
심흔 씃 2공명
단심 씃 2공명
에코 씃 2공명
[PGR] Punishing : Gray Raven
legend warzone 333 trueslash team 660w
ugh
skill issue
Self promo
Phys is truly fun
trueslash
Im almost there too
KR?
Heheeeeeee
yep
You know what I like about TS and Combustion?
Is it worth to even bother building her rn?
While other Affixes have a time limit
These 2 doesn't
So 2nd week huh
Was it phys and trueslash?
Which one has better score
For context I need to save skulls for lucia+nanaknight
Nope

yeah phys and truslash
No
Aight thx.
i got about 400w on phys
You'll auto build her on Ishmael patch anyways
big diff in score
Forced to build
Oya tru lmao
Wait wdf happens when I have the dupe of a 6*
Game saying "ILL FORCE FEED YOU WITH CW"
You use the dupe as reso for some weapon
u get fooder
What wave for phys?
is balter weapon free too next patch or just her?
Just her
Just her
Lemao
yeah just be faster at the wanshi and qu rot i was too slow before
aww man, no free reso
um i didnt check that
all these 6m scorer smh
Oh wait wait do you get free cw and feral sigs too on ish? I feel like i may be misremembering
its wave 22 for 660w so prob around wave 16?
afaik yes
YEEEES FREE RESO FODDER
Who's rydle and ken
yeah
my goat
affix is simply stronger
Yeah I still don't know who that is
@distant wren @turbid bridge
Tf
Why am I being called out 
must be aether ss3 prio statement 
Oh LMAO
Yeah
@meager iris 
Uhh selector reset in ish patch yes
WWE bears
canonball
My new frame coming up 
from the top of the ropes 🗣️
professional troll bear 
martin kinda clean with it tho
BGM: ECLIPSE Sound Team - Bloodthirst
Shukra SS3 R2 4Jiboan 2Chenjiyuan 2Darwin SS cub
Lucid Dreamer SSS0 R1 4Liston 4Chenjiyuan SS cub
Kaleido SSS0 R2 4DaVinci 2Guinevere 2Einsteina Lingya cub
the bear that i fcking hate
I do wonder if SS0 phys gonna be better than ss0 trashslash tho

Only one way to find out
i think phys will be better
hanying need to be above ss3
or else she can't lend over truslash stacks to bianca
Thank God we never have to do trueslash in wz when its available
It's always gonna be on double stage
damn shouldve skip ss3 hanging
cringe vs cringe
Fortunately, Lilith will arrive quickly
Fr fr
good luck on ionization/truslash
I actually wondering
I haven't looked up ion kits too much
But it seems like pyro gets way more energy in ion mode than fire
ion is always better over truslash

but very very very difficult
Is that ss3 kit?
Someones been watching too much channel discovery
the BBC?
babetera
alisa sig worth backpulling? @dapper skiff
and youre good
damn the luck on this...
should i pull for weapons or pull other characters?
Making it difficult in gameplay wise makes it more fun
only oblivion and solacetune if u can afford
The only annoying part is, when you're given many, or possibly way to many variations in rot just for 1 wave or even 2 wave at best improvement
Ofc
Alisa still gonna kickin' until vera
Right now I'd say saving bc is ur safest and best choice
And even longer in glaciation team
there were a livestream?
Brainded sig prio
What if you already have Tonitrus tbh
They got en dub and everything
when it come to Lucia there's always a livestream smh
Then u don't need to
Who's better for knight Hamlet if imma use obli
Sss empy or ss feral, both 2r
man affix is fun for now but idk for the future
Affix fun?
me not even sub to pgr official channel smh lmao
Umbra isn't looking too good with cw tbh
Burn is still nowhere
never gonna happen lmao
is she usable without it? cuz i really dont wanna backpull unless its needed
thats pgr tho
bro forgot Alisa got glacio leap
It's needed
feral got robbed
i bet if a person who never plays pgr sees pyro rot

they wont think its this fkin brain melting
kuro sneaky leaping already free amp instead
free glacio team frfr
they probably wanted to leap feral and replace cw with another lightning attacker but the alpha fans were rabid or smthin
never know until we actually get our hands on it
I ain't joking when I say, Alisa bow is top sig prio for pulling
More than Lucia or hanying
Hanying without crit is

bro can u even rotate with sigless Alisa
Let's not even get to trueslash
aight man so which sig can i skip for getting hers?
phys without alisa was pain
U can't 
agreed
I demand my wulf gurl leap! 
wdym you don't like malding crit for redliv?
red liv mald with lumi
Even if u have sss balter, swapping with 5* Alisa means either drop signa for DV or don't use DV at all
Me pulling it 3 years ago saved me fr
I tried it on my alt and bro I just bricked my acc savings just to get her sig lmao
Watch them make an amp that gives crit rate on SS passive, then turn her into a dps with her sig memory
Physical liv amp
Too bad
honestly that might as well be the case
unplayable
Should have pulled next patch for calibration fr fr
don't think any more way they could make gen 3 phys amp
Idk
Dunno your plan
Just skip any
Lol
Dark seriously needs a new tank though
skip nanaknight's
No matter what the outcome, it won't affect me

bruh
i have a slight suspicion they are going to make another b2b after vera
bro is becoming evil
nah dmc A ranks trust
DMC isn't happening until after global is caught up 
that's what I was thinking too
They've got plenty of time for more back to backs
but now that look on the calendar...
unless they release an unannounced A rank unit to fill the blanks
Are Daren and nanamech the only units that have orb sink
I think the only character we know is coming is new Kamui
Remember guys
Or that might just be a rumour

new Kamui? who told u that ?

I've been hearing it a lot lately
Let me guess
Next S rank gonna be Lightning Rosetta
Just get lucky fr 
those are just community expectations
@ mods
nice man
funfact... he can delete it himself 
no... not that piece of shite
Only 22m HP
bro jetavie stan gonna riot. they got A rank meanwhile cradle got S
WHAT DID YOU SAY
piece
If they gonna hold releasing phys amp, Alisa bow is probably gonna be the highest sig prio for the longest time
of shite

HOW DARE YOU CALL MY WIFE #3 THAT
Exactly
It's piece of shi becuz it's ur wife
Playable Monzano 🗣️

genocidal
You my wife now
Cuz you piece of shi
she's dead lorewise bro
Can't
okay wtf canterela gif
I'm already married
Isn't Cantarella not out yet
Not in my heart
See the concerto 
Water balloon chest pads
in copium we trust... but that's another level bro
Fusion cantarella
she gonna need lotta inspection 
Anyways
wait til they have dragon balls in the lore and brings the dead back 
i love balls
I am balls
would be funny


wtf ? it's u who sent it bruh
Wuwa Devs listened
WuWa turning into H-anime
Delete it
Whaduhelll

the tacit tongue is such a vibe
I didn't know the wuwa trailer had a tongue shot until I saw a screenshot of it later 
wadehel
why delete vro, i need to inspect her tongue
She's gonna liberate y......you are a mod Ezra
so kuso needs money that bad huh?

just dm if u want
Do I get a hawk tuah too in Dm?

@ mods
mid
I just realised it has stepleakers id
so true
Nah bro

How u say G word
CW solo with Nanaknight and Feral qte bots
Mods is cheating
Probably because of the question mark
It's banned?

Ye
doesn't sound convincing at all from a vera dog 
For some reason yeah
mod privileges smh
what g word

Reported
mod using slurs 
oh fair
happy birthday

whot's this ?

Thanks kuro for replacing wata
Wait
You were born 3 days after me ?
What years u born
HAPPY BIRTHDAY
12 years and 3 days, maybe 
Wtf

1898
Wait
1973

1848


I was born in like 2.8 million years ago
bunch of fossils in here
respect me kid
except for KJ
What?
respect the youngest
respect the elderly smh
stoppid ass old men


What?
Im 2010
If anything respect me

I was born 2.8m years ago

Its normal being pulao husband 
this mf
No wonder you like them small
Can you not?
31?
69
Warm
27
isn't divulging those kind of info prohibited by the rules... just asking 
Too far wtf
Dude seriously ? Why
you say cute+funny and still not banned 
Nearly 


What's the benchmark for hell Hamlet with 233 112 111 obli-wanshi-kale
thats me on thursday
what's wrong with being cute and funny? 
Everything
Im 1998
I hate this meta ngl, where's the hanying rock and roll one ?
Still younger than me
should I even take this

aint no way ur that old
7s if you got fast hands, 8s otherwise, all diffs
Yes


I'm lacking dmg for 8s wadapak
I dont believe it old man still playing dicrot
hell kill is tight with that invest, need 7 debuff stacks and it just barely kills
the other diffs should die easily
skipped math class
88
What are u looking with 80 age on discord ?
who is getting rerun with pyroath?
Tbh idk
Dunno yet
What? Can a 80 years old dude not be in discord ?
also why do u need watanabe for pyroath

Wata is Fire Tank
Pyroath is Fire Attacker
Come on you should have that much intelligence to understand

i am new..
pls don't tell me you run like 2 attackers
Wata is fire dps
Pyroath is ion dps
Wym
no i run lucia then uhh the experiment girl and liv











