📨・meta-help

[zenith thorn]

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[hasty bluff]

i take this one right

[zenith thorn]

it's just a broad way

[zenith thorn]

passive 5 and 4 ye

[hasty bluff]

thanks

[raw swift]

like if you have some weird invest like 134 312 110 you'd have to type S0 R3 balter, SSS0 R1 Hanying, SSS+ R2 Alisa, everyone but alisa has harmo

Me personally I don't want to have to do all that

[opaque ridge]

is it me or vera's pet has 2 gathering effects

[zenith thorn]

idk i don't read cn

[livid lark]

#📨・meta-help message

[raw swift]

Even if your invest is straightforward like 222 111 111 you'd still have to type out SS0 R1 Harmo Balter, Hanying, and Alisa

[worthy gulch]

its all good man, people can use whatever they want

i for one, will be typing it out

[opaque ridge]

active gather
passive gather

[raw swift]

I'm gonna pretend I understand you

[zenith thorn]

:omegakek:

[opaque ridge]

from what im reading, a lot of the cubs change active to gather

but if u combine active and passive skill 5, her pet has 2 gathering effects

[zenith thorn]

active 2 is gather im guessing?

then active 1 is the dmg focus

[opaque ridge]

yeah 2500% vs 2000%

but u dont really care about dmg on a cub anyway

that means wata need to hold lingya

need that extra 5% boost

[zenith thorn]

:lmaocry:

[opaque ridge]

oh wait its 8%

[zenith thorn]

is the passive gather after vera's skill?

[opaque ridge]

passive comes from her core i think

[zenith thorn]

ah

2x gathers hm

[river nymph]

[zenith thorn]

one for core and another for ult
idk haven't seen her gameplay lmfao

[unkempt steeple]

Chat, I just noticed something about my PGR account (I only really started playing daily on Feral's patch)

[opaque ridge]

core gathers
pet skill gathers

[wispy robin]

tfw vera came and turned wata from gigachad into dv lingya holder

[zenith thorn]

he's a confirmed dv carrier now? LMFAO

[unkempt steeple]

Literal day 1 player and didn't even knew about it kekw

[wispy robin]

well can't confirm anything at v0

they can nerf or boost vera 100 times till release

[zenith thorn]

right

[unkempt steeple]

Can't wait for her to outdamage Pyroath

[zenith thorn]

night as well nerfed her just before release

[shadow mica]

Vera's model looks so bad wtf. Especially her face

[unkempt steeple]

Beta my guy

[deft apex]

Ikr

[unkempt steeple]

Ppl also complained about Lilith during her first beta

[deft apex]

Her hair looks very underdetailed

[wispy robin]

beta quality keeps dropping more and more each patch

[raw swift]

Doubt

[unkempt steeple]

Jetavie:

[raw swift]

Hope they fix her stuff

[normal sierra]

hope her cring ripped stockings is just beta trash that gets fixed too

[raw swift]

WHAT'S WITH KURO'S RIPPED STOCKINGS

EVERYONE HAS RIPPED STOCKINGS

[frozen creek]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936177246018895882/1322031512710811760/1263735698985586709.gif

[zenith thorn]

i love u lao
but that's invalid

[shadow mica]

ill rip your stockings

[deft apex]

I still dont really like her

Needs more heavy blushing

Literally iconic lilith feature that they took out

[unkempt steeple]

Nah, that's her stick legs

[charred patio]

What's Lilith rotation? Can she solo?

[shadow mica]

Lilith and Ish had minor tweaks because they looked off. Vera just looks bad

[normal sierra]

I thought she would look better with normal legs, but after seeing her with those legs, I want the sticks back

[shadow mica]

Like the whole face needs to be redone from scratch lol

[deft apex]

Ishmael didnt have a minor tweak

[raw swift]

She legit has Lucia's face

[deft apex]

She got redesigned

[visual topaz]

when does Ishmama adopts me

[raw swift]

Ishmael had Bianca's face right?

[deft apex]

Me first

[normal sierra]

too bad she didn't get scrapped completely

[unkempt steeple]

Yeah

[deft apex]

Wtf hater

[normal sierra]

I hate every char that has utterly dumb non-combat animations

and ish is one of them

[raw swift]

I guess CN will be having their patch extended for longer

[deft apex]

She got hot coco and marshmellows

[unkempt steeple]

Yeah bro, the sticks are more efficient at stepping on me, they concentrate the force in a smaller point

[shadow mica]

Thats what heels are for

[brisk pelican]

Is this only for Solacetune?

[raw swift]

Me personally if I had a thing for getting stepped on I'd want to be able to live to be stepped on again but that's just me

[visual topaz]

no

[raw swift]

Probably not

[normal sierra]

no, all chars get that buff if they have shield

[visual topaz]

just slap shield reso

[brisk pelican]

Ah okay, the picture kinda got me off guard.

[distant wren]

Wonder if they lack personel or smth

[deft apex]

Ay least the pfps are good this time

Selena ultima still a sloppy mess in my eyes

[brisk pelican]

How do I get this? I clear the challenge like 13 wins and it's still 0

[normal sierra]

you have to tally to get those

[cold walrus]

Selena ultima is redesign of sophia ultima lol

[unkempt steeple]

Physical truly getting shafted

[distant wren]

Anyway i'll wait till she gets adjusted properly (buffed)
As for her brainded rotation, prob will have to live with it 🤷‍♂️

[livid lark]

her rotation very basic

[deft apex]

Not really? Even s*phia's looks better

[brisk pelican]

Nothing here

[livid lark]

there's no variations LMAO

[deft apex]

She got braindead rot? New hyper?

[livid lark]

or there is but there's like 2

[livid lark]

pretty much

[deft apex]

If she's nanami easy to play I'm loving it

[normal sierra]

did you finish the round completely?

[livid lark]

she's locked to blue in normal mode and red in ult mode

[cold walrus]

They need to buff cw

[brisk pelican]

I have to?

[deft apex]

No yellow?

[livid lark]

yellow isnt used for pinging

[deft apex]

What for

[distant wren]

[charred patio]

Anyone knows what Lilith's rotation is?

[livid lark]

umbraslash stuff

[distant wren]

Good for u guys ig

[deft apex]

LMAO NO WAY

[livid lark]

more like a passive than something you tap

[normal sierra]

not exactly
for the 14 win streak rewards, yes
but for the other rewards that just need these "operators", you can just do multiple rounds and collect them that way if you can't finish all 14 stages

[brisk pelican]

Wait let me explain, so the one that I got nothing is at Overflow, but I got some in Chain Decomposition @normal sierra

[livid lark]

cos it does no damage on its own

[unkempt steeple]

So new Vera rot is literally spam ping > ult > spam ping > ult again?

[livid lark]

it affects core 100%

[livid lark]

more like hold basic and then hold basic -> spam basic

[normal sierra]

uhh, you mean the old ones in that sub-menu there? those actually got bugged displays
if you already finished them when they were first released, you won't get anything there, even if you clear them again

[livid lark]

you do tap some orbs but it's not a huge part of her rotations

[vague nebula]

yay amp gameplay yay

[livid lark]

they are just there for you to inch a bit closer to getting her ult 2

[brisk pelican]

So these are useless for getting Operators?

[normal sierra]

only if you cleared them before
if you didn't, you should get the rewards, at least I think

[livid lark]

pre ult form:
1 3p + full bar from hold basic will give you enough sig energy for ult 1

ult form:

i think you need to do like 2x or 3x 3p and then you do hold basic -> spam basic -> ult 2

thats pretty much it

[hasty bluff]

is this correct?

[brisk pelican]

I haven't got to 14 wins so I'm not sure, but I thought I still would get the Operators without clearing all the wins, like the Decomposition one...

[livid lark]

yes

[hasty bluff]

tysm

[brisk pelican]

Only LD got Glaciation huh, I thought Shukra have it too.

[livid lark]

affix stuff started from luna patch

[faint monolith]

Should do them for the first time rewards ( btw last stage of left zone is bugged so can't normally clear it )

[still gorge]

man pgr is a good game, but my old ahh cant see the screen most of the time.

[normal sierra]

not sure how it works, and I can't test it cuz I cleared all of them already when they dropped
try to get as far as you can in it, then hit "tally" and then start a new run and do it again
those operator milestones should be cumulative, so you can collect them across multiple runs
but if you already collected those milestone rewards before, you can't get them again, that's for sure

[unkempt steeple]

[unkempt steeple]

Imagine needing eyes

[still gorge]

tbh i dont even look at the characters, i just button mash and hoping i parry everything

[brisk pelican]

Alright then, thx for telling.

[brisk pelican]

Okay

[subtle zinc]

any 🐳 ppc gamers around whale sounds

[limber yoke]

im f2p

[livid lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1185658066872578069/Joliv.gif

[woven haven]

its selena echo wanshi

[zenith thorn]

Hi f2p

[ionic cove]

Hi f2p. I'm f2p too. Hru? Fine thank you. I wish I were a bird

[raw swift]

f2p2?

[vale raft]

Lucia: Crimson Weave <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:attacker:1285839106240417803><:lightning_element:1287636531321765959><:umbrasurge:1288090169303371828>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

General DPS set
Used for S0-SS3

Memories

4x Diesel
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Basic Atk
Bottom Slot: 6x Any ATK+15 Variant

Harmony Recommendation

Cottie

[thorn creek]

Same

[livid lark]

@whole marten please use #📨・bot-info for the bot unless you need to ask about it here

[visual topaz]

[livid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/firefly-hsr-firefly-hsr-honkai-honkai-star-rail-gif-11066220443031953737

why do you have feesh skin then

[astral berry]

Is my build correct?

[thorn creek]

I’m just her favorite like that

50 pulls

[livid lark]

sig or no?

[opaque ridge]

[astral berry]

Non

[livid lark]

lies you whel

[astral berry]

5*

[opaque ridge]

non non

[subtle zinc]

im trying for bally 10 and i know my opener is slow and no Nanami proc but was just wondering if you have any insights

[livid lark]

just use einsteina instead of chen

[opaque ridge]

[astral berry]

ym this?

[visual topaz]

Nothing else to optimize if you know slow start

It will just be rng proc

[tight pawn]

Joining the honor rank after a year of playing, had so much fun over the year

[subtle zinc]

yeah I dont want to use scire bc I want Nanami on top of ladder but I also re resod my shake set to ult so im not used to the dmg potential

[visual topaz]

I saved wantap 11s with scire

[livid lark]

yea pretty much

[visual topaz]

Malding rng proc isn't for me anymore

[subtle zinc]

I did a weird ppc strat to unlock ib and allow the srs fights after

[visual topaz]

Well I only have 8/9 stages

Still have 1.8+

[zenith thorn]

wtf whels

[visual topaz]

And done I yesterday too

[subtle zinc]

yeah but i did hell bally on lamia

so i had to do everything to get 1.8 on reset

[visual topaz]

I did everything except knight Ballard

[subtle zinc]

but now i can theorticall get max score on every boss

[visual topaz]

Ballard x 9 11
Siren 8 8 9
Lamia 7 7 8

That's barely 1.8+

[subtle zinc]

9 bally x2 thats nuts

[barren plank]

x means he didnt do the stage

[visual topaz]

9 or 10 actually I forgor

[subtle zinc]

i saved 10 10 on bally

its too hard to get 9

[visual topaz]

I did like all hell stages monday
Chaos tuesday
Then tapped knight Wednesday

Except Ballard

Invest gated for Lamia 7 and Siren 8 hell

[barren plank]

Im trying to get 9s Knight Siren and this sht is garbage

[subtle zinc]

siren 8 is also crazy

[visual topaz]

I did knight 8s with tempest

[subtle zinc]

no way

[visual topaz]

Tried 7s with Phys but not enuf dmg

[subtle zinc]

thats cute i have tempest ready to be HTd but everyone told me its old strat

[ruby minnow]

tnx for telling me i got it too, but chaos n hell bricked 10s

[visual topaz]

The uniframe debuff got lifted

[subtle zinc]

i mean honstly its not a good use of mats bc stigmata can do 8 knight

[visual topaz]

So she actually does same as s+ invest before the nerf

[ruby minnow]

oh sss can do it?

[visual topaz]

Bro mine is sss no harmo

[ruby minnow]

[subtle zinc]

yeah if it was a different week with a phys requirement I will keep that in mind

[visual topaz]

Marko pulled it with s+ harmo and 60% atk nerf

[subtle zinc]

o wow

[barren plank]

And also Nanaknight will be coming soon
Tho Siren will also be thrown to outlier so idk if Tempest still sees use

[ruby minnow]

i never tried tbh

[visual topaz]

Nope

All smol stages are deadge

[ruby minnow]

ss garn for long

[subtle zinc]

Siren turns to Cradle so

[visual topaz]

I doubt tempest orbs can kill cradle knight hp

[subtle zinc]

its going to be harder

[ruby minnow]

tankier than hell siren i assume?

[barren plank]

Surely Tempest can do Dshark 7s right

[subtle zinc]

yeah right

[visual topaz]

Ofc no

[barren plank]

man

[visual topaz]

Watch shark going invul

[subtle zinc]

i mean its hard for luna to do 7 darky sharky

[visual topaz]

Time to do void Wz

Idk how it will feel

[subtle zinc]

just pretend you dont have Epi and use Wanashi

[livid lark]

gph chat dedge

[subtle zinc]

it will increase your void score by 20% ish

[visual topaz]

I have s+ epitaph

And sss0 lucid

[subtle zinc]

me too

[visual topaz]

Dunno if that still applies

[subtle zinc]

well I have 4s both but

[livid lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1196621121307562024/untitled-1.gif

[subtle zinc]

I think it does you should at leasttr both

[barren plank]

Nah Epitaph def is better

[visual topaz]

Tho idk how wanshi void works

Pistol ult + drone ult ?

[subtle zinc]

have you played both in legend this reset?

[visual topaz]

No

I only touched fire

[barren plank]

I just do regular 30/12 cause he doesn't have damage in later stages

[visual topaz]

Waiting for iLi to drop fire video

[subtle zinc]

dont say one character is better than the other unless you can back it up @barren plank

[visual topaz]

Wat 30 12

💀

[barren plank]

It's because of the shred field

[carmine reef]

i'll show u on ur account ew

[barren plank]

30 drone 12 screen

Eptaphs shred field follows u but Wanshi's is stationary

[carmine reef]

but from what i've seen of everyone's runs, wanshi should still 3 rot on second swap

[barren plank]

So it's more consistent

[subtle zinc]

the wanashi rotation depends on what you are doing on luna

so I would only do 30 6 if you are planning to do a 2 on luna. I usually do 3 3 3 2 1 this wz on luna

but its also trick bc region wz have diff mobbys

[carmine reef]

who said anything about 30 6

[subtle zinc]

I did ?

[carmine reef]

why would you do 30/6

[subtle zinc]

are you 444 and in legend

[carmine reef]

30/12 fits into 12s timer so what are you gaining from 30/6 that you aren't getting from 30/12

[subtle zinc]

im not like trying to be mean or suggest a strat im telling what worked for me and how i think about wz this rotation

[carmine reef]

you'd rather have a lingya swap on amp or smth?

[meager iris]

taking all 12s then swapping to luna and doing 2 ult rotation

you will always finish luna and wanshi still on cd

like 3sec cd

[carmine reef]

i don't understand what you're trying to say

why is that a good thing

[meager iris]

it's not

[carmine reef]

if you're swapping off of luna to wanshi, then it's 12s until luna regardless

[subtle zinc]

because Luna 2 or 3 cycle has opp cost vs time for both ways

[carmine reef]

why shorten the rot if you're waiting for luna swap regardless

i only see this being a thing if you're swapping to amp

[meager iris]

you didn't get what I mean

it's the opposite

[carmine reef]

you're right, i don't

[meager iris]

if you swap from wanshi to luna

and do 2 ult rot with luna

[deft orchid]

Hello I am new to the game and I am totally ftp not willing to spend
Just pull hanying and shukra
And I know I can get stigma for free next patch and Echo from dispatch shop also I can get wanshi do I focus on 1 team and get their weapons as ftp any suggestions I am lost!
10 days since I started

[meager iris]

you will finish luna and wanshi still on cd

[carmine reef]

bro i'm asking why you would do 30/6 instead of 30/12 on wanshi

[meager iris]

if you swap early from wanshi to ayla

[carmine reef]

what does luna's rot have to do with it, luna swap will be on cd anyway for 12s

[meager iris]

then ayla to luna

then do 2 ult rot with luna

[carmine reef]

okay so there

[meager iris]

you will finish it on time to swap to wanshi immediately

[buoyant beacon]

should i get solacetune or is saving for future characters a better idea?

[thorn creek]

Save

[barren plank]

Solacetune then save

[meager iris]

so it's just for the time not for the swap time not just lingya buff or amp switch

[carmine reef]

luna ranks don't change her rotation though right

[visual topaz]

I cringe at fire on strim

[barren plank]

Get Wanshi first

[meager iris]

yeah

[carmine reef]

the swap times line up perfectly fine for me

[visual topaz]

[carmine reef]

except for the early waves

where i'm spreading things out

[meager iris]

how many ults you do

on luna

overall

[subtle zinc]

your swap times are dependent on what your ults per char are

and imagine the fact that different invest levels have invenctive to swap at different times

[carmine reef]

depends on the wave but i'm going to do 2 by default unless i see that 3 would fit better in that part of the run

[deft orchid]

Do I get wanshi with premium draws or free?

[barren plank]

Free

[meager iris]

if you take 12s with wanshi then do 2 ult rot with luna it's just weird

you either do luna slowly or find wanshi on cd every time

[deft orchid]

And for 6* weapons?

[subtle zinc]

yeah I think generally being comfy experimenting with 3 cycles on luna is a goood thing

[carmine reef]

i'm fine with doing 3 rots, but i just don't need to do it often cause i'm hitting the damage wall earlier than you

[subtle zinc]

what is a dmg wall?

[barren plank]

Both want their weappons but next patch is double S-rank so best to save up, besides sigs are ppermanently avaliable to pull

[formal void]

I’d suggest getting qu shukras sig other than that 5* should be fine until you progress

[meager iris]

yeah but it wouldn't hurt doing it since wanshi is on cd anyway, and you can fit 3rot in 12s

[carmine reef]

3 rot luna is something you can do to break a shield threshold when you have enough damage to reach it without fully charged ults

[meager iris]

so you do 22222 with luna?

[carmine reef]

no

[carmine reef]

.

[meager iris]

[subtle zinc]

okay so .. you see 3 rotation luna as a way to 'extend' her rotation to break a shield?

or do you see it as more time stop?

[carmine reef]

i don't really value the timestop if the ult is weaker, which is more relevant to me because i need the damage from the fully charged ult

[deft orchid]

So it's just better to just save draws for later and take it slow

[formal void]

Chats so blue

[carmine reef]

having maybe one faster dlt proc isn't necessarily a gain for me if i'm not killing the wave

[barren plank]

Yea u will want to have teams for all elements sooner or later

[carmine reef]

anyway for this rot i think i do one 3 rot early and one 3 rot late

[subtle zinc]

I think its good to experiment but yeah there are alot of variables /_/

but if wave 9 shield isnt broken the run is overrrr

[deft orchid]

So SSR characters> 6* weapons ?

[barren plank]

Yes pretty much

Tho u should still try to get 6* whenever possible cause they are pretty damn important

But if getting one means u jeopardize a character, u always choose the character

[subtle zinc]

weapons can be pulled anytime, when new character banners are 100%, you must pull at least 1 copy 🙂 unlike most gachas

[deft orchid]

I am not familiar with this gacha but I understand thanks

[livid lark]

characters > weapons at any time

[zenith thorn]

just refer to the beginner faqs wnd guide in the pins

[livid lark]

we dont call them SSRs here

[zenith thorn]

eh you still get the picture

ssr,sr,r
pretty much refers to s,a,b

[deft orchid]

Sry I am a granblue fantasy player

[barren plank]

[livid lark]

ive never seen those used before

[zenith thorn]

ur joking

[barren plank]

People still play that?

[livid lark]

well in the gachas Ive played

[deft orchid]

[dapper skiff]

Oh btw I forgot to Ask

Which video are you talking about lol

[livid lark]

i never played fate or gbf

[zenith thorn]

al

[livid lark]

nope

never touched it

[unkempt steeple]

Nikke

[livid lark]

nope

[zenith thorn]

tf new gen?

[livid lark]

my first gacha was sao md and then hi3

[zenith thorn]

oh no wonder

[livid lark]

so the term ssr is foreign to me

[dapper skiff]

Have u seen solo pyroath before?

In bilibili

[livid lark]

uh no

[deft orchid]

7 years playing gbf

[dapper skiff]

I want to see one

[dapper skiff]

:(

[livid lark]

let me see if I can find one

[keen meteor]

The first two have all achievement rewards unclaimed and the last one has the last two tiers of rewards so u should be getting a lot from these

[distant wren]

I have one, just not sure if it's optimal lol

Oh and it's 5* solo, not 6*

[dapper skiff]

Nyaruhodo

Buubies

[barren plank]

Hold the fck up

[floral plover]

she transitioned fellas

[distant wren]

Is that dude on the right from hsr?

[dapper skiff]

DON'T LET THEM KNOW

THIS IS CONSPIRACY

[floral plover]

yes

[barren plank]

Ye it's argenti

[dapper skiff]

[distant wren]

Lol

[azure barn]

https://youtu.be/iWYcZRT7oB8?si=KJbEUQt_jOrJXnbK

[spiral merlin]

i dare not even look at that video

[distant wren]

S rank 💀

[dapper skiff]

Not even SS?

[distant wren]

Yea man that's a different territory alright

[dapper skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1263735698985586709.gif

[keen meteor]

Argenti but better

[dapper skiff]

S pyro bricked

Eclipse mode doesn't have full bar

U gotta do the IN GAME ROT

[distant wren]

I have this for ss btw lol #📨・meta-help message

[shy jackal]

when celica is right for once

[distant wren]

You can see if there's more room for optimization

[dapper skiff]

The in game rot in question:

[distant wren]

I don't even need to click to know what it's like lmao

[feral pollen]

this looks better than spamfest with sss sig units

you actually get to see what is happening instead of just flashing lights lmao

it's obviously terrible for actual wz

[dapper skiff]

That's what I did too yeah

[radiant palm]

my friend is high investing into tempest is that a bad idea?

[dapper skiff]

U can double qte on core hold too

[zenith thorn]

yes

[vale raft]

Current Roadmap (as of Mar 21th 2025)

[azure barn]

Yeah that's why I asked you if you can speed it up a bit

Use it as the base and check which part can be sped up or sumthin

[earnest jay]

lol but honestly at this point, there is so many anime characters that u can basically fine another who resembles them

[dapper skiff]

Now the issues with dlt solo is her orb usage is fluctuations so bad between rot variations

It's quite hard to find a consistent solo rot

It might ended up like oblivion solo

[distant wren]

Idk if there's even anyway for 5* solo to ever do slash ult lol

[azure barn]

I forgot about the DLT cooldown

Is the cooldown frozen on TLC too?

[dapper skiff]

Impossibruh

Slash ult uses energy and bar

And since u solo, u have 0 orb to your name

How do u gonna recover from dat

[dapper skiff]

Nah

[river nymph]

[distant wren]

[dapper skiff]

I still heard the orb bonus when time stop going

[azure barn]

Oh nice

[dapper skiff]

There's a clink sound when u get the 3 orb from dlt

[azure barn]

Yeah I hear it on startup too

[tender vessel]

no ones copying hoyotard games

[azure barn]

Nah Weave definitely copied Acheron

Kuro has a time machine to steal future assets

Source: trust me

[peak whale]

So no 4phil?

[azure barn]

Someone needs to use Cath in the team so

Leaves no space for 4 Phil

[peak whale]

pain

[dapper skiff]

4phil buff isn't even dat big

Long ahhh CD as well

Worst of all

Not timestop able

[zenith thorn]

buffs are less valuable than shred too

[peak whale]

So for future warzones ill run the following:
4changwuzi 4cott solacetune
4signa 2phil 2cath echo
4dv 4patton lucid dreamer(my only shred reso tank)

[dapper skiff]

Sounds good

[peak whale]

LD runs 6 class reso right..?

[river nymph]

[azure barn]

For that build yes

[peak whale]

cos i have him on 6sig for ice kek

[barren plank]

Im just joking jeez

[dapper skiff]

I mean if u have the mats sure

[peak whale]

but i'd have to reso a new memory set anyway

[dapper skiff]

Like nobody paking reso Patton on wanshi

[peak whale]

I have 40k sim battle currency rn

[azure barn]

Just put the memos in, no resos needed

[zenith thorn]

that extra edr is really important trust

[peak whale]

Yh but its probably better for me to do this than to build balter lol

[zenith thorn]

extra 0.4% edr

[azure barn]

You're only getting Balter from the free stuff next patch I'm assuming?

[peak whale]

yes

[azure barn]

Ahh makes sense

[peak whale]

I do have enough tickets to build her and still ss3 pyro and startrail with the packs im buying next patch but it'd be a waste of money esp since pianissimo coming

[azure barn]

True + TS is ass anyways

[spiral merlin]

trueass

[peak whale]

now that umbrasurge is filled is TS worse than umbra or nah

[zenith thorn]

don't know

[barren plank]

Meanwhile I make the same joke on Reddit

[zenith thorn]

still v0
anything can change

[azure barn]

Umbra still has Scire as the Tank so it might be close

[earnest jay]

Ah u see your mistake was posting on Reddit in the first place

[barren plank]

Real

[azure barn]

Reddit has the worst echo chambers ong

[deft apex]

I actually never liked that guy's design

Though vera looks pretty good

[barren plank]

They look nearly the same tho 😭

[analog cargo]

this is just sad to watch

does this guy accept donations

[deft apex]

He's too armor heavy idk

[azure barn]

That's kind of exactly what they're going for

A chivalrous knight in shining armor

[buoyant hornet]

Should I sleep or play pgr

[zenith thorn]

uninstall pgr

[deft apex]

That doesnt mean it looks good

[buoyant hornet]

Real

[deft apex]

Also his whole rose motiff doesnt tickle my fancy

[buoyant hornet]

Queen fr

[barren plank]

Tbh Im all for it

[tender vessel]

dont be putting pgr on the same level as gross hoyo games

[woven haven]

yeah pgr has worse powercreep

[tender vessel]

castorice says otherwise

[woven haven]

imagine complaining about acheron vs aglaea when qu vs plume exists

[deft apex]

The hsr dragon lady drama!!!

[tender vessel]

an account wide revive just because you pulled someone

[buoyant hornet]

This might be worse than solo empy

☠️

[deft apex]

That's what im complaining about

[woven haven]

don’t kid yourself they’re all gacha games
there’s no defending one over the other
people just play the one most tolerable to their standards

both kuro and hoyo games have massive flaws each

This tribalism over your fav gacha dev team is just dumb

[tender vessel]

kuro over hoyo any day of the week

[peak whale]

limbus company, project moon

[deft apex]

That's why you play gfl2?

[woven haven]

cuz both will screw you over any day of the week without batting an eye

[woven haven]

gfl2 is also flawed

[deft apex]

[woven haven]

like i said
people play the one they can tolerate the most

[peak whale]

you can pull every single character and ego as f2p since battlepass give shards and is also infinite

[deft apex]

Idk any gfl2 gameplay besides feet

[woven haven]

if you want to bring your kuro meatriding into help channel you’re in the wrong place

[deft apex]

Genuinely clueless

[woven haven]

xcom style turn based

[tender vessel]

id rather take 100% rate up over 50/50s for global revives or keqing number 7 with a different element

[dapper skiff]

@distant wren it's quite interesting that u can actually do consistent slash ult with r0 since sig gives her matrix on entering core (either hold ult or after slash ult) and 3 orb refund after slash ult

[wispy robin]

it's simple
theres none

[zenith kernel]

@distant wren can i login

[dapper skiff]

[peak whale]

I personally think limbus company is the most friendly gacha game

[barren plank]

I think that's fair

[deft apex]

Surely

I also have no clue what limbus company is

[woven haven]

Yeah but do you see next door wuwa is exactly 50/50 with calcharo and lingyang
your try to paint kuro and hoyo as different is just hypocrisy and in the first place doesn’t belong in this channel

[deft apex]

I thought it was lethal company

[azure barn]

Considering you don't even need to pull to complete content, I'd say that's a fair statement

[woven haven]

if you want to discuss this sh*t move to gen chat

[distant wren]

Yea go ahead

[peak whale]

I mean i know people who've only played 800 hours and have 3 quarters of every single identity and ego in the game

[barren plank]

Lethal company is a different game

[tender vessel]

i dont play wuwa for that exact reason

[azure barn]

I heard most ppl use their gacha currency as energy refreshes in that game, rather than pulling

[woven haven]

yeah but that’s still kuro by your logic

[deft apex]

Literally tells me nothing

[woven haven]

Again, take it out of here we don’t need blind faith here we have religions for that

[distant wren]

[zenith kernel]

Omg that Vera pfp is gorgeous

[peak whale]

Uh basically you get shards by playing and you use shards to buy identities(gacha characters) and ego(sorta like weapons)

The gacha currency can be earned as f2p as well and give shards for duplicates

Battlepass is infinite and gives shards so you can literally get every identity just by playing the game even as f2p

[woven haven]

Project Moon isn’t primarily a gacha company in the first place tbf

limbus just happens to be designed as a gacha base

the previous games in the series weren’t gacha afaik

[floral plover]

surely they don't make hsr Elysia give 50% TD for free in her global passive

[peak whale]

pm is a company that runs a gacha game, but they dont know how to make a gacha game

the end result is an insanely f2p friendly gacha gamd

[peak whale]

Yep lobcorp was a management game

i havent played library of ruina tho

[peak whale]

Before i joined my friends described limbus to me like this

"Limbus Company is a gacha game made by people who don't know how to make a gacha game but it still somehow works"

[azure barn]

They nailed the "game first, gacha second" idea

[peak whale]

Honestly yes

Ive heard of people clearing most of the content with base characters (for reference theyre EXTREMELY weak compared to the newer gacha characters)

[azure barn]

I think they don't complain about it as much in PGR cuz unlike HSR, S Ranks on their debut are all ez pulls

[peak whale]

well pgr is comparatively more f2p friendly in the sense that you can pull every new srank and have leftover for a couple sigs

[azure barn]

In HSR you might not even have both Acheron and Aglaea cuz of how their rerun rotation works (there's no rerun rotation, it's always whoever is more popular )

[peak whale]

im so happy i dropped genshin tbh

[normal sierra]

I only see p2w here

[peak whale]

u whel shush

[azure barn]

You might even get even more unlucky cuz you might lose the 50/50 again the moment the 5* that you want comes out again

That happened to me twice with Ayaka when I was still playing Genshin

[peak whale]

compared to 100% rateups in pgr

[vast crystal]

Sss base invest is crazy

[peak whale]

Cw?

[azure barn]

Lmao yeah

[vast crystal]

Imagine being cw simp in 2025

[peak whale]

Fr

[normal sierra]

but kusogames made me keep my money, they can shove their ketchup up their a...pples

[azure barn]

Also I forgot one of my main points in why HSR is comparatively worse in powercreep

Most 5* units literally can't function without other 5* units

Take Jingyuan for example

Without Sunday he's basically unusable

[normal sierra]

what if I have Saturday?

[waxen vine]

[azure barn]

Firefly with Fugue or HMC

[peak whale]

Cw needs min invest r2 feral no?

[azure barn]

Altho HMC is almost irrelevant atp cuz RMC exists

[peak whale]

when startrail drops*

[azure barn]

I think so yeah

[peak whale]

Same thing then

[normal sierra]

yeah, so no need for kuso glazing, it's getting old

[stray siren]

@woven haven can ishmael use Axial ray + glorius spear + 8% shred resos at the same time?? or depends on class passive (amp/tank)

[azure barn]

I'm not saying PGR is completely F2P friendly

I'm just saying HSR is way worse

[peak whale]

Ill glaze project moon any day

[barren plank]

She can have both tank and amp resos equipped, but if Ishmael is Observing Tank role, amp resos don't work, and vice versa

[normal sierra]

I dunno what that is, but I give you my blessing for it

[turbid bridge]

The team wide attack % buff works

Even if she’s tank

Not the heal buff though

[mighty tusk]

R3 ishmael mandatory amd minimum

[wispy robin]

all resos works regardless
by healer reso doesn't work in tank mode cause she can't heal

[peak whale]

Limbus company dev

[azure barn]

We also can't forget about the fact that HSR also has one of the cruelest endgames (compared to PGR at least)

[normal sierra]

you mean she can't heal as tank? wut a scam, instant skip 🚮

[peak whale]

[mighty tusk]

Please skip her

[turbid bridge]

Fraudmael fr

[peak whale]

Skip selena

[normal sierra]

consider it done

[stray siren]

ok, thank!

[azure barn]

I'm going for SS3 Ish, I really like Void

[mighty tusk]

Yes, I alone shall pull her

[peak whale]

No, you skip selena

[trim mortar]

Why are you always active

[peak whale]

Who

[wispy robin]

that's not true btw

[azure barn]

Who's always active

[normal sierra]

being active is the key to a healthy life

[mighty tusk]

First time?

[trim mortar]

@azure barn @mighty tusk

[azure barn]

It's just timing

[peak whale]

True

[mighty tusk]

Time

[stray siren]

[azure barn]

I'm always here by the time you get here

[waxen vine]

i dont play much at all any gacha games because of their more pay 2 win scam nature not to mention with shetty combat i only play PGR cus of its combat and character design and with its more f2p friendliness

[nova forum]

[azure barn]

Our schedules align it seems

[peak whale]

Try limbus company

[waxen vine]

i have seen a bit of its gameplay and i dont feel like i will enjoy it i enjoy the more action based combat

[trim mortar]

Shet combat though

[peak whale]

hhh

[mighty tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1322166601990148159/SelenaBroke.gif

[normal sierra]

P*nzu waking up in 1 hour, 30 minutes only to say "fk whel" here
it's indeed timing

[peak whale]

fk whel

[azure barn]

This is what I hate about most gacha games ngl

The game could have one of the best stories (like Limbus) but their gameplay is absolute dookie (for me)

[mighty tusk]

Kevin also drops by and often cries about lamia

[peak whale]

limbus story is indeed peak

[mighty tusk]

Then this channel bullies kevin

[azure barn]

I also have the same problem with R1999 and Arknights

I just really don't fck with their gameplay

[vast crystal]

Limbus company glazers

[peak whale]

Worldbuilding been worked on for 3 games so

[waxen vine]

exactly like some have really good art style but when its time for combat all characters become chibi and the combat is shet

[peak whale]

valid glaze tho?

Peak story

[normal sierra]

no glaze is valid, the definition of glaze means invalid praise

[peak whale]

grr

[normal sierra]

[azure barn]

Nikke also has a really solid story, but the gameplay is one of the biggest hit or miss I've ever seen

And based on my experience, it completely missed me

[peak whale]

i gonna touch u

[azure barn]

Really goated music tho

[peak whale]

Fanservice game for go-

[peak whale]

anyways i fw this dude

[waxen vine]

bro i aint gonna sit in my room watching characters cheeks while they try to shoot gundam or some shet i rather do norman revival plan and struggle to complete higher levels

[peak whale]

also i just realised i have a 45 minute recording in my gallery of me trying to do wz while tired as fk and failing to do a proper rot like 20 times

[barren plank]

What Kimka said is true actually, sorry I misinfo'd

[azure barn]

I really wanna take Nikke seriously cuz at my core, I am a story enjoyer

It's just the gameplay man 😭

[barren plank]

So ig that means SAR works but not GS cause she can't heal when she's a tank

[waxen vine]

ahahah i understand that

[azure barn]

Wait so R3 minimum is real?

[normal sierra]

with all the dumb goo service they throw at you there, no idea how anyone takes that seriously

[shy jackal]

Then follow the meta

[azure barn]

Another reason is cuz the music is goated, but I digress

[peak whale]

gfl2 worse same or better

[woven haven]

i’m just saying
no need to start tribalism over gacha companies that want your money anyways

[azure barn]

All of that unfortunately can't make me play the game

[shy jackal]

The thing about nikke, is that they debuff your stats if you fight under the power recommendation

[woven haven]

Every game has their own issues

[dapper skiff]

Oh it's trash

[shy jackal]

It starts at -20%, and gets all the way to -90% stats

[woven haven]

and it only how much you can tolerate or ignore them

[dapper skiff]

Eclipse ult still superior

[peak whale]

Sometimes i feel like project moon doesnt want my money

[normal sierra]

I dunno, I don't play either
but I only see people goo over it, nothing else, so they are the same to me

[trim mortar]

Gacha war? 🍿

[shy jackal]

Soon instead of focusing on butts you'll be fighting for your life to keep your units alive before they're one-shot

[peak whale]

kek

[shy jackal]

Believe it or not, most players don't actually focus on the butts

There's actually no available space to direct your attention span to them because of how frustratingly intense the gameplay gets sometimes

[normal sierra]

intense, I bet

[trim mortar]

Arrrrrrrr

[azure barn]

I can't remember how the gacha works in Nikke atp

But I remember it being pretty good

[shy jackal]

4% rate, instead of pity you have spark system

[azure barn]

The only problem is that dupes are actually necessary in that game

[shy jackal]

It isn't lmao

[azure barn]

For extra levels no?

[shy jackal]

Not beyond the 160 wall

Once you get past the 160 wall, dupes are only +2% to stats

[azure barn]

Oh nice then

[shy jackal]

Auto's for plebs or if you're too overpowered for the content that it'd bore your mind

It even makes your characters do worse lol

[azure barn]

I'm interested in how the optimization works there

There are like different ult phases for each character right?

[shy jackal]

Turning on character auto-aim decreases accuracy, and the ai has to take time to move over to an enemy and shoot

[azure barn]

Gotta have at least Phase 1, 2 and 3 there iirc

[shy jackal]

Pretty much

[azure barn]

I dunno what makes a Phase 1 Ult unit great tho

Or on the 2 other phases for that matter

All I know is that Phase 3 is usually the DPS

Phase 1 and 2 are supports

[shy jackal]

If you want a demonstration of what sweaty nikke gameplay looks like, just look at any solo raid bossfight, or search up mirror container

The latter being one of the most mechanically complex bossfights the game has to offer

[distant wren]

[azure barn]

I see

[dapper skiff]

Also I found good solo rot for r0 and r1

Dlt and not
Has no different

U just do 1 3r more occasionally and that's it

R0 solo already good

R0 solo slash rot

R0 solo eclipse rot

It's on light wz, so score is horrible asf

But we can see the diff already

Which what I needed

[dapper skiff]

I think I should test something

[turbid bridge]

No fire war zone?

[dapper skiff]

Dlt solo vs ga solo

[vernal portal]

new vera is fire element?

[dapper skiff]

It's in mixed zone

But I'm on leader

[vernal portal]

[dapper skiff]

[turbid bridge]

LMAO

Lightning main zone 1 week before Nanaknight

[turbid bridge]

Fire with umbra affix

[near tiger]

So these gamemodes is like arknights IS?

[dapper skiff]

Dude literally

💀

That's the first thing I noticed about this week

[vernal portal]

cw finally got her affix team huh

[turbid bridge]

We still don’t have umbra affix content as per beta patch so no point for umbrasurge yet

[woven haven]

uh no content

they don’t trust cw to be capable enough

so no umbra wz or ppc

[vernal portal]

[clever schooner]

#📨・meta-help message

[worthy gulch]

What did you use?

[distant wren]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV11pXiYEEtE/?vd_source=f2f32422f8c340281caec9edf5557f61
lol 1129w vera solo, no idea why they used luna+nanaknight tho

still bad btw

[stray siren]

Dw Clown trolling clown

[mighty tusk]

Brug solo vera with that high score

She's better than the rest of the attackers

[distant wren]

she's just buggy is all i can say ig

[river nymph]

[distant wren]

prob v2 on monday or tuesday

[mighty tusk]

Solo = op

[thorn creek]

and not hot enough, all i can say ig

[distant wren]

it's def weird tho, why luna+nanaknight lmao

[thorn creek]

at least ma feesh still alive

[distant wren]

shouldn't it be another amp+wata

[mighty tusk]

For now

New dark tank will be umbra enabler

[thorn creek]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[turbid bridge]

Maybe Nanaknight’s QTE

[wispy robin]

cause it's m*le obviosly

[thorn creek]

wait so vera's not dark enabler?

[river nymph]

[mighty tusk]

Fish be gone

[turbid bridge]

She seems to be

[distant wren]

hmm yea her qte does have a field

[turbid bridge]

Yea shred coverage

[distant wren]

but no heal mems at all in that case

[turbid bridge]

Pretty good solo potential damn

[river nymph]

wata qte is trash

[trim mortar]

:oo:

[mighty tusk]

Is that 11 mil?

[turbid bridge]

Yea lmao

Better than copeoath solo

[mighty tusk]

she damn op

[distant wren]

because luna+nanaknight = 2 slots open
4dv 4shred 2eins 2glo 2lant

not even all 8 slots used lmao

[mighty tusk]

Every attacker is a fraud compared to vera

[turbid bridge]

Surely she won’t get nerfed

[carmine reef]

Cause nanami actually puts down some sort of field on qte right

[distant wren]

yea same as garnet

[turbid bridge]

Yep, like garnet

[carmine reef]

Ope i was scrolled up

[turbid bridge]

[normal sierra]

is it as tiny as garnet's or bigger?

[river nymph]

[turbid bridge]

Way bigger

[normal sierra]

noice

[river nymph]

anything is bigger than vera’s micro

[wispy robin]

tfw people can't skip pyro for vera like they did with hyper cause of affixes

[mighty tusk]

Solo vera with ss3 pyroath?

Wata 4 dv 4 shakes qte bot

[wispy robin]

ss3 bare minimum to be in team fr

[distant wren]

not gonna stop them

[turbid bridge]

Iirc Aether said Nanaknight’s shred field was like 2x of garnet

[dapper skiff]

It may be 1k diff only

But dlt is so irrelevant on solo pyroath, gs can give u better score lol

[distant wren]

nah fr tho if they buff vera enough to be on par with lucia i could see lucia shakes+wata alphonse davinci be a thing

[dapper skiff]

Now for solo ion

(I haven't learn anything about ion rot)

[distant wren]

pls do not ever utter these words

[wispy robin]

tbh that's the only realistic way around it
no dv = no double qte nuke

[distant wren]

bro whispering devil's words here

[spare heath]

wait vera kills herself??

so she's like feral?

[dapper skiff]

Relatable

[mighty tusk]

Solo ion wz

[dapper skiff]

Watch solo ion still better than solo Nanami on ion

[wispy robin]

bro solo nanami can 3m+ with zero effort

[turbid bridge]

Consumes HP on ult1 for damage boost

[dapper skiff]

[mighty tusk]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1uhtyeBE8i/
@distant wren you shall know pain

[turbid bridge]

Woi haram

[woven haven]

wdym

sss amp reset qte cd

the true use

[wispy robin]

surely we all gonna sss her here

[distant wren]

nah i ain't clicking on that sht

[dapper skiff]

18s build up
12s dps

[lament yoke]

[dapper skiff]

Also that's interesting u can skip basic with jump + basic + blue for ion gauge

[mighty tusk]

You shall experience pain

[dapper skiff]

I thought it'd be 28s build up for 1 ion gauge

How much score did 5* scire ion snazz got again?

[inland spear]

who should i pick?

[dapper skiff]

[turbid bridge]

Doesn’t matter

They’re all mostly useless

[distant wren]

doesn't really matter, all of them are bad
but ig either entropy or ember if u wanna minmax? it's w/e anyway

actually not even minmax

just something to use in the beginning

[inland spear]

Alright

[dapper skiff]

Where is it again

What was snazz score with 5* Daren on ion

I couldn't find it

[wispy robin]

his daren is 6*

[distant wren]

this i think?

[dapper skiff]

He said before he did tried 5* out of curiosity

Lol

That looks stonks

@rocky wedge was that your ion score with 5* Daren?

[dapper skiff]

When was that btw

Do you know what month?

[distant wren]

#📨・meta-help message

[dapper skiff]

[distant wren]

late dec early jan

[dapper skiff]

Activate windows

[wispy robin]

oh it's legend no wonder it's high

[dapper skiff]

5* Daren op

[turbid bridge]

Surely it won’t be maldy RNG

[dapper skiff]

Surely it's better than 18s build up

[wispy robin]

i could only get 3.4 max with ss3 pyro 5* daren in hero
after 100hrs of restarts

[dapper skiff]

That was feral sub dps too

Not Nanami yet

[distant wren]

daren = 🚮

lol speaking of daren

i unironically think there's still no umbra wz in beta now because they're waiting for new dark tank or umbra dps

[turbid bridge]

Ye seems like it

[dapper skiff]

They better be

[wispy robin]

2 s ranks in a row incoming again

[turbid bridge]

If they release umbrasurge now it’ll be like 10m max

[distant wren]

there's a very good chance that they planned for cw dps at first but missed the opportunity

[dapper skiff]

Cw enabler looks sht

[distant wren]

so now cw is just gonna be a cope option for umbra

[dapper skiff]

More cw slander

[wispy robin]

surely new dark tank won't outdps cw in umbra

[dapper skiff]

U mean *will?

[distant wren]

we're gonna make cw umbra dps
oh sht every new unit is too strong what do we do?
fk it just drop her and release a new one

[dapper skiff]

That's a weird typo u have

[distant wren]

[dapper skiff]

[turbid bridge]

[mighty tusk]

Imagine needing 45 blue orbs for max stacks

[wispy robin]

inb4 cw will be replaced by new alpha frame so ppl won't complain

[turbid bridge]

New fire boss start time around 5.17s
1380w/2075w/3000w HP

As of v1

[distant wren]

they're using veronica intro tho

[mighty tusk]

[turbid bridge]

Ikr LMAO

[mighty tusk]

Oh look, similar to glacio

[distant wren]

wait veronica also 30m hp right?

[turbid bridge]

Yeap

Directly copied basically

[vast crystal]

Argh boss having intro is kinda aids, or transformation taking 10 secs too

[distant wren]

do we know which boss is ditched to outlier yet?

[turbid bridge]

They just changed the boss

[turbid bridge]

Ballard confirmed

[wispy robin]

they literally scrapping betas now of random leftovers and making up stuff on the go

[distant wren]

LMFAO

[mighty tusk]

Where phy weak boss?

[dapper skiff]

Random bullsht go

[vale raft]

This memory does not exist. Please try again.

[distant wren]

meanwhile dark shark still there kek

[vale raft]

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[peak whale]

Bro

[dapper skiff]

Tifa is still rocking in ult

[vast crystal]

Didn't Ballard just get here tho

[vale raft]

Philip II ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

Healing effect increases by 10%. Healing ally units will increase their Physical DMG by 10% and DEF by 10% for 5s. 8s cooldown.

4pc Set Bonus

A healing drone will be charged when healing is performed. When fully charged, the next time you performing healing will consume all charged energy to summon the healing drone. It will follow an ally with the lowest HP percentage, healing allies in a 5m radius for 2% maximum HP per second and increasing their Physical DMG by 15% for 5s. 12s cooldown.

ATK

132

CRIT

66

DEF

223

HP

1491

[mighty tusk]

Madorea

[vale raft]

Patton ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

ATK increases by 3%. Physical DMG increases by 7%.

4pc Set Bonus

Extra DMG Bonus increases by 10%. Attacking a target inflicts them with Laceration, which decreases the target's Physical Resistance by 7%. Laceration lasts for 8s and has a 10s cooldown against the same target. Attacking a target inflicted with Laceration causes an explosion that deals 600% Physical DMG. This effect has a 6s cooldown against the same target.

ATK

132

CRIT

67

DEF

223

HP

1453

[distant wren]

blame them for releasing new fire units too close to each other

[wispy robin]

won't shark be there till new neutral boss
so basically permanent

[turbid bridge]

Or affix boss yea

[dapper skiff]

Isn't black shark still exists?

[vast crystal]

What about lamia, Luna got ditched already

[mighty tusk]

Yes

[distant wren]

? luna was fire boss
lamia was special weakness

[vast crystal]

[turbid bridge]

I mean it’s free points and easier 1% in IB

[distant wren]

idt they'll bother with another special weakness boss like lamia or hamlet again

[turbid bridge]

Yea

[mighty tusk]

With 40 mil hp?

[distant wren]

instead we have affix bosses

[broken elk]

Yes. Though idk why would any1 use it

[vast crystal]

Is there gonna be affix wz too? Or too early?

[broken elk]

I think

[turbid bridge]

Nope

[vast crystal]

Cause right now not many affix users

[distant wren]

wym gonna it's already there

[turbid bridge]

Umbra is bricked still so no Warzone or PPC content yet

[distant wren]

or u mean umbra wz?

[dapper skiff]

Void is technically affix wz

[broken elk]

Disruption iirc

[vast crystal]

Huh

[distant wren]

like i said they're prob waiting for new dark tank or umbra attacker to release umbra wz

[turbid bridge]

Seems like 30m standard for now with all the copy paste

[vast crystal]

What kinda lazy-

[meager arch]

Can somebody update the teams sheet and have Umbra just be Vera and no CW

[mighty tusk]

Now when are they gonna release affix wz below leader

[zinc charm]

cw officialy dead

[broken elk]

Oh no, anyways

[turbid bridge]

Oi oi affix content in my casual braindead game

[mighty tusk]

*Dead on arrival

[distant wren]

wonder if next patch is A rank or free S rank again?

[vast crystal]

Chances cw gets a second leap?

[zinc charm]

S rak=nk back to back

[mighty tusk]

S-rank for the memes

[zenith thorn]

if there's an S rank patch i will blow up a hq

[wispy robin]

yea surely new dark tank will be free

[zenith thorn]

probably google

[distant wren]

sounds like kamui is perfect for it
male+free = free debuff baby

[turbid bridge]

If Kuro wants money that much just make all frames S from now on but alternate between free and paid

[zinc charm]

true actually

[vast crystal]

Kamui dorm s rank dark tank trust

[meager arch]

free and male debuff, barely better than SSS Scire

[wispy robin]

sorry but his new frame is secured for next a rank patch alr

[distant wren]

meanwhile wanshi still waiting for his new sfx skin

[dapper skiff]

Male?
SFX skin?

[wispy robin]

meanwihle me still waiting for his free skin

[dapper skiff]

I thought that's only a myth

[wispy robin]

i swear if they will forget to add it next patch as well

[turbid bridge]

Nah we’ll get another Hanying skin fr

[distant wren]

we already know vera patch will be her debut skin and the nanaknight dragon skin

[meager arch]

We'll get a new CW skin when Umbra content comes out

[distant wren]

you mean dmc collab

[zinc charm]

collection unit

[meager arch]

new players pulling Crimson Weave on standard to use her second limited collab skin 8 patches after she left the meta

Alpha's 3rd limited collab skin

[mighty tusk]

*skip collab

[stray siren]

a karen skin from 17K BC to squeeze the simps and then give her powercreep a patch later

I BEG U KURO

[mighty tusk]

But you'll pull it anyway

[stray siren]

Ofc

[stray siren]

my last rc in game

[broken elk]

the bnnuy

[vast crystal]

Yh no more prophetic dreams after sync is gonna be rough

Now they'll be able to shaft every server not just cn

[broken elk]

i fell asleep with pgr onoh na 😭

[wispy robin]

they didn't announce anything abt next unit right
will there be any stream soon? if no i'd assume it's a rank again at this point

[vast crystal]

Sips tea heavily

[distant wren]

doubt there'll be any streams until half anni

[broken elk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/948607904372629507/1352479937323597904/togif.gif

[river nymph]

[wispy robin]

oh right since they are reworking tundra stuff maybe it's about time for that massive lady to become playable

[turbid bridge]

[distant wren]

she's a construct?

[turbid bridge]

I like how Vera solo is scoring higher or similar to full fire team swap because of the weather

[dapper skiff]

[river nymph]

[trim mortar]

[river nymph]

what is the weather

[dapper skiff]

Vera is amp but weather only works with her

Lucia and wata will get healed no matter what

So 0 buff

[dapper skiff]

After ur hp down to 40% or lower, gets fire buff

[turbid bridge]

Increase fire damage by 50% when dropping below 40% HP, duration 18 seconds

[pine slate]

Trash weather

[dapper skiff]

Something like that

[river nymph]

oh so feral weather 2.0

[dapper skiff]

Only vera use it

[river nymph]

and we all know how that worked out

[turbid bridge]

What was old feral weather to be exact?*

[analog cargo]

after like 70% of ur hp u would get more dmg

[dapper skiff]

Reduces hp to lower than 80% and get lightning buff?

[turbid bridge]

Oh so this one is even worse LOL