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Fkn hanying

oh right
Feral ABSOLUTELY needs dlt LMAO
since vera is gen3 amp it means
new void is sss vera sss ish ss luna
Heck she can solo with a goddamn 5*
k thnx
hanying no dlt slows her rot down by like 3 seconds per swap (ass)
wata no dlt slows his rot down by several seconds plus you have to play bullets differently (ass)
qu no dlt means you have to use hold dodge ult first which is uber weak and also using up the amp buff (ass)
lamia no dlt slows her rot down by like 2-3 seconds per swap (ass)
Double strong ain't all that
Fasr+strong>double strong works 
No 
gonna maybe poke ek and ask him to update cnteams sheet
If god is good
please make this happen
What is even her gen3 kits gonna do for amp
Qte reset like Lilith?
it's literally so much worse

Feral only need dlt if ur doing double ult with cottie
new gen amp still needs SSS to match same buffs as old gen amps SSS?
that's what the topic was
NAh not really
That's assuming you play SS3 double rot feral in which case sure
Swapping to feral first then cw at the start fixes her orbs immediately ┐( ̄ヘ ̄)┌
who needs dlt to 2 rot smoothly
i haven't compared lilith yet
that's literally what the topic was
Lilith buff at S is same as crapi's buff at SSS
We talking double rots specifically
huh no lol
Base S
whel talk in my f2p chat PU_PeepoSMH
Kulao save me so many whels here
How about u finish ur Deadline Timing of your homework and chores instead of yapping
Lilith is 20 atk 40 dark dmg iirc
50 at ss3 and 60 at sss
double strong ult on qu is must and u need dlt for that
What
No
Lmao
The world of the rich is scary
yes
but the thing is luna doesn’t have the qte buff cuz she’s a fraud
so that begs the question what the fk is the point
its such a minor upgrade for such an exorbitant cost
Competitive mis-info
Yall refuse to work for your double strong smh

its sss kaleido -> sss vera for a 20% elemental dmg bonus increase
Luna stray
Ur calling ss r1 rich
like honestly ????????????
I think ur the broke one here 
sorry that you don't see the value in doing like 50% more dmg in less time
Consistently yes😭
R1 is hard man
Gen3 amp traits doesn't seem to be that significant as for now
My qu still on 5*
U calling base investment to be "high" just means ur slacking on the game
There are 2 states of existence
Rich
And broke 
id say everyone needs dlt no dlt just cope bro
wtf gph is on war
ss r1 is literally f2p invest for a veteran
Y'know what else is hard?
My brutha

chill vro
Significant for SS3 fire I guess
My work
Snazz's TW acc is purely f2p and he has all this and more
💀
My literally shift

the negative atmosphere here is not professional gacha chat behavior
Byee
We gotta tone it down guys
Snazz has been playing since fkn dawn released hasn't he 😭
This is bad
I'm being jumped again
Time to tone the fish down to QTE bot
like you made me lose my man
Yes brutha?
Tw?
Since 21


you're bein jumped for sayin things you don't know about 
Garnet iirc
my luck disagrees with a certain group of men it seems
I'll leave your toilet seat warm if you don't geddifok 

21
I mean significant as
Look at gen3 tanks with those insane shred increase each further rank and swap CD reduction, absolute bonkers
And u see gen3 Attacker, besides affix gimmick ofc, their off field DPS from qte is just as huge
And then u see Lilith as the first gen3 amp, doing
Uhhhhh...
The world is not for us poors
Shameless
I have a f2p friend who gets all characters ss along with their sigs and he's not even a competitive mf 
anybody can share ice wz run?
I have a vision....
i hope you get a red light on every street on ur drive home/school

The bro is stuck on elite wz and 30% ppc
what invest
So you but without spending


3s r2 ayla ss r1 wanshi and qu
JJSJSJS
What is this

wat da hel
Can someone post vera image from bili?
Rosetta dragon frame trust

where's ur wanshi ranks brudda
No invest on qu?
He did skip 21 tho but 21 is a skippable unit anyways

I will change my name to dragoon when she comes
no vouchers atm
Cycle: 24-02-2025 ~ 02-03-2025
Server: Asia Pasific
Weather effect: 60% ice dmg boost for 12s after swap
Fluctuations level: 301.5
fumbled last part 💔
4.5m score is very doable, just need several more attempt lol.
Investment:
SS0 Shukra
- Weapon Resonance: Deadline Timing.
- Weapon Harmony: Chen Jiyuan
- Set: 4 Ji'Boan 2 Chen Jiyuan (6x +atk...
cw solo anyways
where's ur vouchers brudda
But alas I'm tesching s turning point. Now I'm reaching the point where I'll have unused units that have sigs that I can feed for reso material 
same invest as wanshi
Thanks 
Lee is first up!@
i meant vouchers xd
🗣️
And can always improve if u want
Adjust wanshi rotation if needed
Triple rotation
24 stacks etc
what'd u use them on smh my head
used vouchers on sss ayla alisa empy
(if u have the sanity for it daz it)

for ss wanshi you should definitely learn triple rot
ye share please
it's p much just objectively better
ss wanshi?
hmm
Is that the bullet > swap > drone > bullet one?
Use double and you're gone be fine
triple rot means 3 ults in one swap
bullet drone bullet
You're likely gonna do better than 80% players with same invest as you
Time to get vera ss3
is that even worth?doesnt that kill qu uptime?
Oh shi can I have that pls looks like my ss3 wanshi needs better rots
SSS where
time to learn triple rot
no it does not kill qu uptime
time to fate pull vera on her debut
0:00 Intro
0:22 Calibration (Gauge)
0:41 Ultimates
2:00 Stacks
2:55 Swapping Basics
3:20 Multirot Basics
3:51 Full Rotations
4:14 2 Rot (Double Ult Rotation)
4:50 3 Rot (Triple Ult Rotation)
5:21 Pros & Cons of SS 3 Rot
7:52 Pros & Cons of SSS 3 Rot
9:27 When to 3 Rot

can u share video
Gib money
Yay
Nuh uh I’m tight on my funds too 
thanks
Self promo smh my head
Then no sss
U should bark while pulling her 
You know what else is tight 
is that ur channel?
Maybe sss when i have a job
yes it is




btw 3 rot wanshi needs dlt?im using tank reso atm
does not need dlt
hmm
Yippiee I'm poor
you can potentially run out of orbs at the end of the run if you only use 3 rot every single swap, but
a) there are times you want to use 2 rot anyway, and
b) can potentially offset with parry orb gain (red orb parry gives orb)
lemme prep pyroath fate pull stream first
Might get wata leap for umbra

I can show u triple ult wanshi run but I'm sss wanshi
either way not worth using dlt if r1
hmm
Still same rot tho but I can swap qu and wanshi only, no need kaleido swap
can ss even triple ult properly?
salty vera simps incoming
yes
hey i got ya on my wz rot this week, nice 8 mil 
Yes cure my gacha addiction
Did a quick search of pgr ice wz with wanshi form this week upload
80% of the people who uploaded does NOT know how to rotate with wanshi
Yes

its ok show me
what's your ign
There's no ice wz this week
Redditors should leave the game
not going to expose myself cuz my scores are not great kekw
Brace for impact
"Soyass" reeks of reddit bruh
sorry i suck

*ice wz that's uploaded this week
Shukra
SS0 R1(DLT)
4 Jiboan 2 Chenjiyuan 2 Darwin(6 atk + 6 ult)
Lucid Dreamer
SSS R1(DD)
4 Liston 4 Chenjiyuan(6 atk + 6 ult)
Kaleido
SSS R2(GA+SAR)
4 Davinci 2 Guin 2 Eins(6 atk + 6 class)
Not even knowing jack shite about the character's personality
dazzlao got that whaleido
And talking smack is crazy
Ofc it's 6m
I blocked u stop messaging me
????
copers
lmao
My Vera isn't a dps(attackers )and I must yapp
Reminds me of that time when we met Sophia and Lee asked us what type of construct she is based on her weapons iirc
🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

Ice has constant timestop but it’s literally dead last for main element scoring LMAO
is dark better?
Ye


12m dark

Is fire ss0 next patch better than ice ss0?
No
By ice ss0, I mean sss kaleido and sss wanshi

k whel
ice total timestop actually isn't that much, it just feels like it cause stairs is not...super engaging
fel invest
Usual Lilith + lamia + Scire, S+ of course
next ice amp needs to run qu into the ground
Fel invest
High invest
Decent invest
Low invest
pwo invest
LMAO
@mighty tusk
so wats mine

Fel
I aspire to whel like the leviathans

wym fel
When you wanna time stop but qu starts doing cardio on stair master:
im mine's invest
repeat of hypetreal

at least you didn't find mine
LMFAO
What did Lee do
Wait whats the stigma around being an amp 
What'sbwithballbthe"b"s
People still stigmatise amps as having no damage
Wtf bro
Typical casuals
B is close to the space button you see
So Lilith still managed to do great job with lamia than Lucia with unc

Ye pretty decent actually but of course fire still ahead
again
I don't get why
Apart from maybe feral didn't every amp on debut revive their team 
QTE BOT
Bro forgot Garnet was main dps before

not from their personal dmg
We ain’t even seen beta yet but bro already assume QTE bot
alisa and capri pretty mid damage even from release
Just because amp
Alisa made crit dmg on physical constant
Empyrea obviously
Ayla carried ice for a while
Lilith replaced selena
Capricorn don't count
She's uniquely ass
Casuals, what can I say
i mean the point is, the only amps that were actually genuinely high damage on release were empy and lilith
Kale?
kaleido is decent
holy sht these mfs are mad stupid
Hmm
Fair
when the yardstick is plume
anything is high dmg

tbf Kale from when she released was obviously better dmg

LMAO
Mhmm mhmm
Kaleido is high dmg but she wasn't like as meta changing as empy
Liv "The best support is one that kills the entire enemy so they can't damage us" empy
The best support is a good attack
Liv was to everyone what Luna wished to be 
Kale dmg is actually pretty decent, it makes running ploom optional for some invest for double amp setup

Wtf
Whew empy has been in meta for 1277 days on CN
What is even that comment lmao
Wtf did he even type out 
Good work my martyr o7
Like just shy of 4 years?
Is that longer than horsey?

3.5 years
I still remember when Zex did my ice wz and he got surprised things were dying 
Nah rose best girl
I think rigor got her beat
dude it was crazy
nop
When team with high score isn't a good team 
on my account i would do a whole rotation to kill 1 wave, on zeru's account it would die to the pings and then the final hit would kill the next wave
those constant flashbanging ult made me paking blind now 
No no you need to understand watanabe's core is slow
Someone on reddit said vera's design looks bad

Slow
Lol sure
Tbh I can see why they'd say so
It had to grow on me
He is slow
If you follow spider's guide 
Show
But now
Mmmmmmmmmm Vera
Also someone said vera weapon is gunblade?
I'mma say it again
empress said so
That someone on reddit should reinforce their house btw
or ken idk
Mistranslation iirc
one of those
so can i use glory sig on her?
Cuz gunblade is same name as glory wep

How long ago was garnets debut
damn somebody should give her some lip balm 
jetavie still better
it could just be a gunblade but actual translation slightly different maybe
but it doesn't look like a gunblade to me
If fire team post vera, the first team with 3 gen3 character in the team without leap gimmick
Isn't getting 25m in wz with the best weather
Vera is a fraud
Yea no it was a mistranslation

Mistranslation, direct translation is double edged spear
In terms of what 
In CN? July 2021
i went into stronghold and still have some presets from when i last did it those were some dark times for ice and dark teams
wife

4 years between frames huh
Iirc empress translated as gunblade but Ken kept the original Chinese name for fear of mistrans, also he thinks it's a double sided pole arm
Who needs milk wife when you have abusive wife
Well someone could argue unc isn't gen3
ic
but jetavie freaky
Girl looks majestic
Fire teams better make an explosive entrance
i wish I could try out SSS unc
Perv
💳
Trial

I did, pretty fast ngl
Vera sss buffs the team's qtes by another 6000% 
Chances of wata dropping to a single rot?
100%
Depends on Vera’s beta
I need to pull up to the reddit asap
Wata
Slow
They want someone to be ftl or what?
nah there's no shot wata stays double rot
I don’t want anymore Shakespeare double rot pls
wtf am i reading bro
ez skip +15k bc
Ofc right after I sss liv and r2 
That first sentence in the edit STANKKS
Controlling myself from talking shite to both
WHY IN THE WORLD WOULDNF YOU WANT AN EMPY REPLACEMENT
That's why i didn't r2 
me when rosetta and hanying
empy is one of the unfunniest characters to play nowadays and this mf want to keep playing her 
Like bro idc about game balance or I'm not even a vera simp at all
But if vera is fire amp, the better make this team a powerhouse with 3 gen3 (kinda) unit

Same as "i have rosetta, I don't need hanying"
i actually think leaped empy is really fun
Boutta get that Daren treatment in Lilith team
but i'm still down to kill her
tru
Scire replacement when

LIKKE???
like as a big liv fan i know its time to move on she had her run outlasting 2 generations of fire
You forgot his sig mem
needs alphonse for off field shred
Oh tru

No DV then
fire no dv unless vera can run shakes
So right after the new Vera releases liv empy has no use at all?
and fire no eins guaranteed
Da vinki?
Depends lmao
No DV team is actually peak
Maybe fire + umbra PPC week
I even got her gacha skin 
i can only wait for the beta but i bet that vera gameplay will be fire (literally)

ppc, might
Oh god my goat wata being dropped to dv holder
"skipping Wanshi and Hanying for Pyroath" -Some facebook user 
YES
I bet they don't have wata 
Where?
might
4dv4shakes wata meta
Surely wata dv
Scire not needing sig mem to apply off field shred, Scire goat 
I'd cry
I’ll cope and pray
Possible fire + umbrasurge PPC week
that really depends if Vera is closer to Lucia's dmg but faster
Try using "#" with a space before "might"
Wata is now the oldest in the meta fire team
to be honest wata lasted too much as subdps being a male 
Fat fk whel
would be funny if Vera out damages Lucia
is there any leak about new vera role?
Guys surely an attacker alone will be sufficient
Who cares abt tanks and amps they're just qte bots anyway

now that would be absolute cinema 
#might
Bro still looking for leaks
Dark annihilator
Being main dps alone for that long as male is already an achievement tbh
When it’s confirmed
That’s all I needed to hear I dumped like 90$ on liv 

Ehhh fire shouldn't be touched again for a while
with a space
# might
Ye

I'll touch fire
They've got dark tank
Dark attacker
Lightning attacker
Lightning amp
Ice amp
To do
Ayo
Dark tank first. KILL SCIREEE
leave ice amp outta this, ayla is perfect
please kill scire
O_O
She's fire tank so we're all quitting

I don't wanna play mid, I wanna play peak Vera 
Surely next s rank is dark tank 
No i just pulled her sig
She can live for a little longer
Ayla after scire

Ur an idiot. I told u it's a bad idea
nah after scire, yall are the chopping blocks, bcs its gonna eos
Don’t kill daren so soon as well pls I just bought her gacha skin sss her and r2ed her 
oh god im so late, thank you so much 
Hehe "^^
me with Lee Wata Vera 
What if
Dark tank umbra dps
Kuro pulling a new lightning attacker instead 
Fr cause scire has the most profitable Coatings atp

Please (2)
: 🧱
KAMUI MY CHILD
nah that's cw
someone who's never heard of cw:
My account is bricked once again
oops wrong reply
But ur whel so it's fine
i still have enough to outright ss3 pyro and startrail ik what im doing 
Fym "so soon"
U happy with fire amp vera?
Who wants to play midcia anyways, she looks ass
(I'm coping)
i don't think CW is gonna last this year, they gonna release new alpha lightning attacker bet 
I was confused for a moment 
Shkikan simp
Rosetta lightning attacker trust
me avoiding using her like the plague so I don't get fomo 
CW doesnt even last past this patch unles SSS
But this frame she's submissive
It’s still like 3 months till new Vera right?
Istg if they release another lightning unit b4 a dark tank
4-5 probably
Alpha would prolly be half anni/anni char but next half anni will be vonnegut I feel jt
You saw those too huh
I wanna file for divorce. She doesn't deserb the marriage 
We need new alpha frame. Void support
Oh I get to enjoy liv till I get sick and tired of her then 
Actually lemme check those things again
Hopefully umbra sucks ass so I can ignore that affix
Why are we divorcing?
I mean the office group already highly suspected it to be fake lmao
imagine alpha dark tank for CN anniv 
Submissive and teachable
The Pyroath marriage coating, not us 
Ok so we're still married. Phew -
Yea
Umbra is sad tho
How much is that skin
That's what I'm talking about
17.5k bc
500 RC for you
This is nerissa's phrase, don't @ me
What memory set does harmo'd daren use
So 100$ 
Who?
Yeah umbra is sad
Ggs
4dv 4 bathlon
which pyroath skin
For legal reasons this is a joke
500rc 
Wedding one lmao
Hololive vtuber
wot dis
Teddy is on 4dv 2guin
Sub dps dark
4 Boone 4 bathlon
Ion enabler
4 DV 4 heisen
Lilith team
4dv 4 bathlon
that's not a joke tho
Oh her
ohh the 2nd one ye? first one was her blakc coating right?
Food
6*? interesting
4dv 4bath is the correct build for non-swap daren in dark ppc right now and for all daren post-lilith
Yep
BIANCA SKIN
I NEED IT
Ao any news about vera ?

If i run 4dv 4bathlon can I run 4guin 2eins on miss teddy
Yeah she's a 4* fire support
Physical amp, umbra affix
Lightning attacker
yesnt
do 222 instead of 4guin on teddy
Damnit choco
Dark annihilator
bro edited
\
If she's qte bot rn before Lilith it's 4 bathlon 2 Gloria and 2 eins
We're divorcing now fs
Having bathlon harmo helps tbh

Zex say

shhhhh they don't know I hope 
2 guin 2 eins 2 sam?
For some reason i misread and put the s over the z 
Daren mems
sam or gloria depending
2 bath 2 eins 2 gloria
gloria stronger effect but worse uptime
Seggs
do what seggs say 
Dahek u mean Sam on daren
that's for teddy
they asked for if daren is running 4bath 4dv
Vera seggs memes shall continue
I thought we're in the same page
Yes
Eh itll be for ppc and wz, would sam or gloria be better
Dv on tank for solo wz is diabolical
@dapper skiff
in wz you wouldn't be doing 222 on teddy, you'd be running 4dv
dv scire is for ppc rn
was talking about ppc from the beginning for the daren 4dv
guh so i need scire subdps for good wz score?
.
right now no not really
Then why not dv on daren in wz?
post-lilith her dps still won't matter but the ss3 will be more important
:)))
you want dv on teddy so that you can double qte daren out
double shred qte
for better tank shred uptime
this is generally the case for all wz, or at least it was until we got the new gen tanks that all have persistent off field shred
Well at least now i won't waste any voucher on liv
oh right umbra has no swap cd reduction
Thank god i didn't go for the skin
unless again wata leap 
Uhh i follow this rot rn so i only use my qte on ult2 https://youtu.be/pPHPqY1c7rE?si=aJnmifW0pGTZno4Z
BGM: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_lCY8Rtw4iA
notes:
If no sig, u can dodge core orb1 to trigger matrix instead
Dont do ult2 early, always wait for qte before doing ult2
Dont ping core orb during ult form, this will make you run out of orb
poverty gaming rotation
(initial)
loop1 → loop2 → repeat
If 3ping before ult 2 is red orb (no other option)...
Yes pls 
oh my god this team is fked
daren necessary field time
cw long field time for single rot
oh nyooooo
umbra buffer like echo? 
do you not know how dv works
daren qte > slight pause > teddy qte = daren qte up again
Idk if the ult2 lasts long enough for me to qte twice
absolute cinema
??
Ive only played lamia once

what are you talking about
sorry zex 
Are they adding anymore packs before patch ends?
why would you need to do it twice in the same ult
Don’t think so
Alright
the qte reset is for the next wave
These ones are low value 
speaking of packs, imma recharge now
Shameless whel

yet u still clear em all 

Paking whels in my f2p friendly channel
soo umbrasurge team just vera?
So pgr x pokemon when ?
so use daren and teddy on ult2 then daren again after wave dies?
nuh uh, am f2p 
Dont forget the enemy healing part
CW is umbra too
yes
bro forgor cw
ogay
The only thing I've cleared is adv ppc
And cw
Double edge gun ?
you need to slightly stagger them but still make sure the qtes overlap
vera , cw , and?
umbra is currently
Vera CW Scire
unless someone gets leaped for tank slot
Daren
Me
Fk cw
if you do them too close together the qte cd won't reset, but if you do them too far apart then you wn't get overlap which means no 4dv buff
ooohh
Spear not gun
mind u daren is still weakest tank
and cw umbra dmg is kinda meh
I just need to use teddy before the explosion part in ult2 rigbt
Well by translator it reads gun
vera will be dragged down
dv buff is timestopped bruh
Paking ass water unit
unless they leap someone for umbra tank
Because they’re using google translate
so vera's new frame is fire amp
Bad multipliers compared to ion and glacio?
vera finna buff umbra by 1000%
fire umbra amp
you're losing dmg if you're waiting
empy go bye bye
Hm
yes
yessir
Ok i might be visualising smth wrong
How fast is daren qte
pretty fast
Faster than qu?
umbrasurge just need the enabler no after vera
What is umberasurge ?
maybe about the same
Hear me out
Trueslash vs umbra
ok i understand it now
the point is you're not going to intentionally wait for the later frames of ult2 to set up dv
dark affix
cause then you're not buffing all of it
Vera could be enabler for all we know, it’s too early to say for now. Just wait 4.5 more hours and we will know
Yeah i get it im just used to waiting cos of wata and empy
truee
So is she for dark team or fire team ?
do daren qte immediately (or even before the ult if you can manage the timing)
then do teddy like very shortly after because daren qte is really fast
the entirety of ult2 should be buffed
Hence why i was hella shocked when qu was so quick I could activate her qte twice sometimes even if I had clicked kale qte first
fire is her main element, affix is different element but not her main element
dark affix != dark team
but
if you're doing mermaid tidal you should do qtes on tidal
and you should still have the buffs on for ult2
Ah ok
But ?
affix is not the same with element
if you're doing dive ult then you should do qtes on dive and the buffs will still be on for ult2
I got u
unless the dive or tidal is killing without the qtes ofc
I dont use tidal in mermaid form cos im following a dlt-less rotation @carmine reef
i'm just giving general advice
The tidal is used in primary to trigger matrix ping + give sig energy
i know
Peak 5* experience

my point is don't wait so late to use your qtes
No dlt
You actually can
idk even when I use tidal orb in primary form since i dont always get single orb to matrix ping i still slowly run out of orbs
Wait using 5*?
Hell nah
Is it solo with r0 lamia?
personally i don't ever use tidal in mermaid form
If im in matrix and I tap a 3p why would it use all three instesd of just one

I've about mastered lamia's infinite rot atp
Solo r0 harmo sig
cause that's how it worked before luna
Ya gotta aim for one bruva
Have u seen that one video?
bcs shes not luna
Solo r0 lamia guide
No i keep getting 2s and 3s
i follow this https://youtu.be/pPHPqY1c7rE?si=aJnmifW0pGTZno4Z
BGM: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_lCY8Rtw4iA
notes:
If no sig, u can dodge core orb1 to trigger matrix instead
Dont do ult2 early, always wait for qte before doing ult2
Dont ping core orb during ult form, this will make you run out of orb
poverty gaming rotation
(initial)
loop1 → loop2 → repeat
If 3ping before ult 2 is red orb (no other option)...
Wait did it change after luna?
Ik it's different with luna but I assumed it was just for her due to her double 3 ping mechanic
In base form?
yes
Good thing then
kind of yes but kind of no
where in the rot do I fit the 2 basics in? Right before ult1?
it gets implemented for other chars, and also the orb system itself is different in newer chars
so the matrix 3p stuff is just not as impactful later
So if i understand it right affix is like extra dmg or so ?
Yeaaa but we still have chars like selena
after your ult2, in basic form, if you see you only have a 3p and your matrix is up, do 2 basics and then hit your tidal
Affix in its simplest terms van be considered a whole different element
Well for wz I mostly do basic in mermaid form only and only do tidal if I have more than 13/16 orb on lamia after ult1
If I don't, I just spam basic and do a 3p for enough energy for ult2 to do ult and use the remaining orb for tidal orb in human form
I see
Similar with what u see from the guide
Let me go try brb
Idk if it's for ppc rn or nother
it's not a set part of the rotation
it's just for if you don't want to waste a matrix on 3p
not a situation that comes up every run
but it does come up occasionally
but if you're a real malder, that would just be a restart cause it's still technically a time loss
But for example the vera is fire elm but her affix is dark soo what is affix how does it effect char confusion
vera amp holding 4dv?
nah she only hold 3dv now
Basically
Now Vera has 2 teams she can play in
First is obviously fire
But now she can also play a role in the umbra team
2 elements is the simplest way to think of it
harmo2 
Shed have a move or two that are erher completely aimed at the affix or can switch between both the element and the affix
Ah so my first thought
Pgr tradition with every new character is honestly peak and based tbh
It goes by:
No matter what the role of the new character is, even if it's a tank or a support, it's gonna be stronger than whoever the previous DPS of that said element team most of the time and there's nothing u can do about it

Ok why didnt they make lamia's ult2 activate qtes this is painful
Affix in simplest terms is kuro saying spend money or suffer
sad feral/alisa noises

I like it this way, at least you get to see new characters on field
Learn dive cancel
then wata holding 4dv for fire?
most likely fire will have no dv
Dive and dodge?
dive and ult
but the timing is...really obnoxious
Tbh in a sense
Alisa theoretically could be stronger than balter cus Balter has no 100% crit in her performance
Dive and ult

insanely tight?
i still don't do it tbh
but also i'm solo lamia so the dive dmg is actually useful 
But a support gotta do what a support gotta do
It’s not that bad
Btw in affix team tanks are enablers right
yeah, or it's just awkward, cause dive is hold basic, so you have to hold long enough for game to register the hold, but then you have to cancel with ult soon enough that the dive animation doesn't start
Insta excal is way worse if you’re getting max score
No the enabler role can go to anyone
4dv 2guin?
bold of you to assume i ever had the opportunity to do insta excal
Just dive cancel tbh
Absolutely not set in stone
I read something says in affix team tanks are enablers
You can???
Except the attacker
solo lamia is not doing dive cancel the majority of the time anyway
because the dive is actually useful in solo
Yes
Fr fr
None
Nanami next patch shts all over crimson weave
I do it for ppc when I'm feeling a little masochistic
EMPYREA'S REIGN IS OVER 
when beta came
She gets powercrept by Nanami Startrail next patch but your best right now would be Chrome Arclight and Liv Lux
Next patch would be Nanami Startrail, Crimson Weave, and Liv Lux
Then in Ishmael patch you can replace Liv Lux with 21 Feral for free
it has its uses in ppc but for my kills i usually find it's either unnecessary or the dive dmg is actually necessary
Do we get like a boss who's weakness is affix and will that boss be weak against a certain affix or any type of affix works ?
i can not wait to see the diva
but def depending on your invest it would be useful to learn
Welcome back from the stone age
I thought Daren will get replaced
Veronica is an Ionization ppc boss
isn't veronica glaciation
Did i do it? I cant tell
Surely we'll get umbra weak boss
Nah, that's Lilith boss
Ion
So sertain affix
Veronica is ion, Monzano is glacio
why would u test this when you still have qtes up
Thats why i cant tell
Yes
go try it when you have no qtes available
if you get qtes available during ult2 without doing dive anim then it worked
It's also works perfectly for long terms
Take an example, a tank that does the most dmg in the team, will eventually powercrept by new character with same element
BUT since it's a tank that's also important for the team, until the next new tank for the same element released, that previous tank is still gonna be important for the team even though not the main dps anymore

Ok thanks now i need sc cause she has ion damn
did the testing start yet
zamn gph in serious mode now
Honestly, quite wise in meta perspective
yesnt
Its just attacker is the worst role in the game
Cuz their damage fall off and then they have no value whatsoever
wait does lilith do more dmg than lamia?
Qte dmg buff
Yes
You also can't play Lilith solo
when does it start
Well tbh crapi is entirely Garbo
oh fair enough

Imagine how good vera wata and pyroath team will perform
My garbage 
in 4 hours most likely
wait sooo, will vera out dps lucia likely?
Not rly
Likely outdps wata
all new upcoming characters aside from nanami are cursed by that 💔
yeah i wasn’t thinking so especially if lucia is ss3
She makes her fans bark
Fire amp umbrasurge affix
I can see Vera outdps'ing Lucia in fire if she's premium
I meant her kit lmao
But maybe not since they're so close together
Does liv emp have affix ?
Nope
no
the dawgs are excited, theorycraft before kits existed 
if she does outdps lucia then idk about ss3 lucia anymore
Then she might get one
Classic globlul
Maybe
Still need SS3 Lucia for Ion
Depends how they gonna cook her tbh
Could goes like ice team with double dps
wc to kuso
here we hype up character with teaser just to make them free or have support class gameplay
lets goo
I hate that vera is fire amp
But who knows
Why making affix different than the class bruh
$$$
Me too
I just realized I dont need to r2 my empy now
to make them usable outside of their mai nelement, also money
Because they need new content after nearly 5 YEARS having the exact same system since release in cn
Bruh
like isnt $$$$$$ the obvious reason

I don't need empy sig now 
I thought daren's era will end 
Cn already had their 5th anniv didn't they
So they decided to confuse ppl haha
Took your pills💊 ?
not entirely
ye can had 5th anni
Let me
Yep with ish
cause it came out in 2019
Well at least i know what affix is now
Blud would've started imagining his wife if not for me
5th anni, surely alpha new frame announcement, right chat 
I don't understand why everyone is hating on her being amp, personally i like it cuz she will be in meta for a long long time
Ew
Dont say the obvious 
true

that just make her have longer shelve life

Ayo guys @lament yoke doesn't brush his teeth
Rosetta is the half anniversary character 
We know kuro LOVES milking alpha so much she still alive today
same. that fraud lives on
irrc her mafia coating re run on jetavie patch
Is this game p2w?
yes
Kinda
nope
trust me
Yes
it's both p2w and f2p

But f2p enough you can play
Wdym
Y’all trolling 
smh u guys
Not really its bp2w
for fun and casual play
no
for competitive, yes kinda
Leaderboards be like
it can be considered f2p to some degree
i suspect she is cny character
next chinese year is year of horse
Give me some reasons
stop trolling the green leaf ppl 
F2p= you can get every char
P2W to get optimal performance
What u missed is
You're currently listening to people who barely play the game and login only several times per week for weeklies (if lucky, finished) and does not grasp the basic concept of role importance in this game
pgr is like the most f2p friendly gacha in terms of you can get all characters for free guaranteed
but competing at highest levels is a combination of p2w and skill, you can get far with skill but you can't bridge gaps completely

meta - p2w
just having fun - f2p
P2w if you wanna compete with other players, f2p if you here for shites and giggles
Its be patient to win
Where do I get the feeling the newbie is gonna set his eyes on cw on base banner
Attacker = dps
Tank or healer is just qte bot
truly
F2p can get all character?
Running tank is optional btw
Yes
yes
yes
It's because she's the best option she just got a new amp for her meta team 
Yup
I hate dumbolas like them 
As long as you dont backpull units
wydm my entropy isn't the main dps in my hanying alisa team? 
yes with strict planning though 
Also i opened reddit so 
Wow
guys i don't think enough people told him yes, maybe we need some more
With time tho not all at once
Yes
Anyways, 1 week in and most of my teams will be covered soon enough
see thats your mistake there 
but u cant get nier anymore so no 100% collection 
i mean the "f2p can get all" doesn't cover backpulling anyway so
also you'll suffer rn because you need like 18 characters to form all teams 
Or brs
Didn't they remove the collab units you dont have on collection?
Ignorance is a bliss
Like always

ohh wait really? i didnt check
Chat will sigless pyro Lucia do more dmg than wata 2s r1?
Tried looking for a2 on celicas, cant find her
Well 4 hours to vera gameplay?
when did they update that? does that mean i can 100% collection now? 
probably ye


maybe since shes new attacker for fire after all
Why are they buffing fire so much
do we know veras element and class
fire amp with umbrasurge affix
Fire strongest nonaffix team?
fire have male, male = weak
Phys for now
Cause fire is king
Fire is in a good spot rn
Fire team having two kuro cashcows rn
Epi free??
Dark needs help
maybe on cn but still there on glb
they aint weak when i invite them to ||my bed|| 
Only left fire and light team
Alisa 
no we need a pyro leap asap 





