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night sigil
lament yoke
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Omg whel

zenith thorn
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sss sig haicma

terse canopy
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I guess i will just use wanshi lol

zenith thorn
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base s banji still sweep tho LMAO

terse canopy
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wait for shukra in future

lament yoke
terse canopy
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Yeah uniframes are just not that good

river nymph
night sigil
terse canopy
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but i also jsut kept her because I legit like haicma

vague nebula
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btw don't pull qu. u can get her from a selector. it will be available in June this year LuciaOwO2

vale raftBOT
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Current Roadmap (as of Mar 14th 2025)
restive karma
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thank you

lament yoke
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Im new and not familiar with unframes

How much score does a fully built uniframe get you in wz and ppc? Like haicma for ice wz @terse canopy

rose yew
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Vera new frame is called possibly? LivSussybaka

terse canopy
night sigil
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I assume

lament yoke
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Off element would be better...?

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Wai

terse canopy
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600k ish

lament yoke
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Idk my wz score

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Is in in x00k or m

night sigil
terse canopy
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Also haicma is very dependant on her sig waepon otherwise you are straight up not gonna have a good time

terse canopy
night sigil
terse canopy
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And when was the last time we had operation uniframe

livid lark
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the time of uniframes has long gone

lament yoke
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Oh its in millions

livid lark
terse canopy
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🗿 wtf

livid lark
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like it isnt coming back

vague nebula
livid lark
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last one was in the first hanying patch

terse canopy
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yea thats about when I got busy and couldnt return lol

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Holy crap its been that long sobglasses

night sigil
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Uniframes with timestop EvilLiv

lament yoke
sleek basin
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no

night sigil
lament yoke
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Wha

vague nebula
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they completed omega weapon or something in lore. noctis said that camu was going to lose his special status when omega weapon is done. so lorewise theres really no chance of uniframes coming back.

sleek basin
lament yoke
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Thats so ass

night sigil
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They're like A ranks but worse

terse canopy
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well it doesnt matter haicma and nanamech will forever be on my greeting/homepage

vague nebula
broken elk
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behind the camera

vague nebula
vague nebula
night sigil
lament yoke
livid lark
terse canopy
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ill just put the uniframes aside and Hopecope that mayb-

night sigil
terse canopy
night sigil
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But yeah they don't really matter

lament yoke
vague nebula
lament yoke
night sigil
vague nebula
night sigil
lament yoke
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Damn what a game

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Giving trash, mihoyo could never

quiet lily
floral plover
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🫃

lament yoke
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🫃

quiet lily
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ofc only on uniframe stage, would be dumb to bring it to other stages

livid lark
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kuro has shifted the meta to mainly omniframes now

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uniframes left for dead basically

quiet lily
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just for gb now

night sigil
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Roland 1m fire score in old wz ☠️

lament yoke
terse canopy
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E_Landy_pout feelsbadman

night sigil
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☠️

quiet lily
night sigil
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Pulao cannot boomerang her way in abyssal EvilLiv

terse canopy
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also whas the diff between 2pc cath/patton? -10res vs 7% phys atk + 3% atk

night sigil
meager arch
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I remember when uniframes were so strong you could run Camu as your dark dps even with the damage debuff before Luna came out

terse canopy
meager arch
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Before I quit I was really looking forward to getting Qu Pavo because I started 2 patches after Alpha and completely missed her

night sigil
terse canopy
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Hanying

livid lark
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also for hanying build, use the bot

vale raftBOT
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Hanying: Solacetune <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:tank:1290614106520555571><:physical_element:1290613978057146379><:trueslash:1288090116790812712>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
Alternative DPS Set
Used if you lack Solacetune's signature weapon

Memories

4x Changwuzi
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Core Passive

Harmony Recommendation

None

night sigil
livid lark
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this is what you'll want ideally but requires sig + ss0

night sigil
livid lark
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cottie build is for anything below ss0 + sig

terse canopy
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if she does better than stigmata I could go for sig

night sigil
livid lark
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she will 100% but stigmata is still subdps

terse canopy
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Patton it is

livid lark
night sigil
livid lark
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which requires a sig weapon

terse canopy
night sigil
zenith thorn
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cottie does nothing

livid lark
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only for ppc

terse canopy
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SS+Sig

zenith thorn
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just use any phys 2pc

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signa preferably for the edb

livid lark
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stigmata better off using 4 char 2 cath 2 signa/darwin instead

zenith thorn
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darwin is useless for ss0

livid lark
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cottie is not good for stigmata right now because you need to spend time doing damage during hanying's cd time

zenith thorn
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drwin buff just runs out before she can even ult 2

night sigil
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4 Charlotte 2 cath 2 signa

livid lark
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and both balter and alisa have to do damage within that time

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both of their rotations end exactly half of hanying's cd time each

terse canopy
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my stig is already built and hypertuned just need to fix up my hying

night sigil
livid lark
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so once alisa finishes her rotation it will be just enough until hanying becomes available again

terse canopy
livid lark
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it should now

night sigil
terse canopy
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well... crap lol those hypertunes are gonezo

livid lark
night sigil
livid lark
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also HT mats are easier to come by in this iteration of PGR

terse canopy
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Dont really have that much time to earn I will just swipe if it gets too harsh

livid lark
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you have more sources of HT mats but just need to spend time farming

night sigil
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3x patch is coming so be prepared EvilLiv

livid lark
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no you dont need to use time

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dorm commissions are a thing remember?

lament yoke
terse canopy
night sigil
livid lark
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did you grab kaleido from the dorm

lament yoke
livid lark
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what patch did you drop the game?

pallid kernel
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This game is getting more competitive day by day

terse canopy
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I had kaleido from pull

pallid kernel
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Every year feels like a new beginning

livid lark
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she was free EvilLiv

terse canopy
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Its been a solid year or so I wasnt around for alisa

lament yoke
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Good times when xeno did 17 waves on dark wz with laurel

night sigil
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I hate logging in game EvilLiv

night sigil
lament yoke
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Tf

night sigil
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I forgot

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I'll send ss later LeeInnocent

lament yoke
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Yo theres jet play in stream

steady otter
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Huaaaaahhhhh weekend
Im freeeeeeee
AEEEUUUGGGGHHHH

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Lets play my beloved game

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Ofc not pgr

lament yoke
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Minecraft

steady otter
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Im the husband

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Nice to meet you

night sigil
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🤢

sharp grove
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No you dalao LivWow

steady otter
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Delete your bokep my bro

zenith thorn
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woah

steady otter
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Allo lao LivWow

dapper skiff
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It's like treasure

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My treasure

dapper skiff
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Vicineko, croove, mksatoru

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Uhhhh

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I don't think I keep derpixon in my phone

lament yoke
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So many new termsKareninaGasp

steady otter
past thicket
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horni chat smh

steady otter
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I like this type of chat

dapper skiff
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Too bad derpixon kiwi tho

steady otter
dapper skiff
past thicket
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let her rest

zenith thorn
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:gasp`

dapper skiff
zenith thorn
steady otter
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Go check rn
I know youre not fasting

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Mokel

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I know it

dapper skiff
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I'm going strong

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15 winrate

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Or is it 14 rn?

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Idk

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I'm bad with date

zenith thorn
dapper skiff
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Holy shi

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Bro was close to have 19 fingah only

steady otter
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daily engineer with their consequence

vague nebula
lament yoke
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Perhaps CN wasn't as intimidating as I thought WorryCommandant

void forge
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what resonance should I use on kaleido and Dreamer

vast crystal
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Wait ish is a new class?

lament yoke
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Fr

steady otter
vast crystal
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Bruh this whole time I thought she was support

void forge
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cow ?

steady otter
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u know the cow in pgr right

void forge
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I didn't touch resonance since I started the game

mighty dock
lament yoke
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Moo moo milk milk cow

void forge
sly geyser
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@lament yoke art stream or something?

vale raftBOT
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Ishmael: Parhelion
Skill - Class Passive (Lv. 18)

Observer

Gain different abilities based on the Observation Chronicle:

  • When Tank: Attacks reduce the target's Extra DMG Reduction by 20.0% for 5s.
  • When Amplifier: All switched-in members gain an extra 20.0% ATK and 20.0% Elemental DMG Bonus of Ishmael: Parhelion's element for 10s.
  • When Other Elemental Amplifier: All switched-in members gain an extra 10.0% ATK and 10.0% Elemental DMG Bonus of Ishmael: Parhelion's element for 10s.
lament yoke
sly geyser
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trying out jetavie?

lament yoke
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Kinda and much more stuff....

sly geyser
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I see I see

vast crystal
steady otter
vast crystal
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I thought she was standard support

mighty dock
void forge
vast crystal
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When new class pgr

void forge
ripe stag
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She's gonna get you arrested

lusty spear
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hey do ppl usually gonna give hanying priority for her signature 2nd resonance?

ripe stag
steady otter
still moat
ripe stag
distant wren
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yea sure

steady otter
ripe stag
woven haven
lusty spear
# glass bay Are u whel?

no, but i have couple resonance mats to use, so i was asking, is it gonna be prioritiy?/ i can keep it for another signatures...

lusty spear
ripe stag
lusty spear
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alright gonna save them

tawny belfry
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do I harmony 2 guin or 2 eins for Feral? And do I need to swap Fran for Vinci on Nihil?

dapper skiff
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If the tank for your void team has harmo, either wanshi or wata

Feral set is 4 Davinci 2 Einsteina 2 Guinevere

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Fran is not used in nihil/void team

lament yoke
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CN yakuza Cw showcase in streamLivWow

tawny belfry
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wata's on 4 alphonse 4 shakes for me

dapper skiff
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Then she use the set I mentioned above

steady otter
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I forgot when we got free cw & feral

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Like ishmael patch isn't ?

tawny belfry
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for lightning is it still franz?

dapper skiff
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After that, feral will never use Fran anymore in any team

tawny belfry
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so vinci all the way huh

dapper skiff
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Except for something like babel

dapper skiff
tawny belfry
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my girl's getting the bench soon PensiveRocc

trail viper
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correct item to implement pings to memories? also whats hypertune?

lusty spear
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i saw on physical team, alisa gonna bring lingya to help hanying have 1 bonus orb by using 3 pings then swapping to hanying...

on the 2nd time and so on alisa entering the field then she about to swapping out with hanying again...,
should i ping another 3 ping orbs?/ no because i already pinging orbs in her rotation?

dapper skiff
lusty spear
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ah okok, tyy

dapper skiff
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15 more shards

void forge
ripe stag
void forge
ripe stag
void forge
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she was never your it was just your turn

ripe stag
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She's mine

void forge
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yah

lament yoke
deft apex
zenith thorn
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hypertune is an tertiary upgrade to your memory

trail viper
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when the build says bottom, it means second slot of the memory or the memory number 4,5,6?

carmine reef
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second slot

trail viper
carmine reef
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core/class/ult reso only show up on the second slot of each 1,2,3,4,5,6

rose yew
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hold on can we then level up sig weapons with the event currency then LivSussybaka

carmine reef
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so 6x core can only mean on the second slot bc they won't show up on the first one

dapper skiff
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Solo ss3 wanshi vs swap wanshi

With only 5*

rose yew
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🛐

quiet lily
distant timber
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When is the next patch?

rose yew
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April 14/15

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depending on how long they extend the maintenance VeraShrug

distant wren
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@zenith kernel i'm done with dailies btw

dawn cloak
rose yew
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make it a month EvilLiv
I need a break from gacha

zenith thorn
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plus data confiscation

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so ensure proper break

vague nebula
lilac wraith
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just a reminder that a sheet regarding wz/ppc link is up on pinned for run reference. You can contact helpers/mods who actually knew ppc/wz gameplay so that we knew it's not a misinfo vid unless you have some credibility as trustworthy players if you want to add some bili ref there

nova forum
dawn cloak
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Actual helper working hard LivWow

nova forum
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How long should time have passed usually before a beta starts on cn

carmine reef
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helper machine broke

quiet lily
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sheet opening up another sheet EvilLiv

nova forum
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3 weeks?

pine slate
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Wz reference?

lilac wraith
rough mica
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scammed SS sheet

quiet lily
lilac wraith
still moat
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holy we have gambling event

pine slate
quiet lily
dawn cloak
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Oh sheeeeet

zenith kernel
steady otter
steady otter
rough mica
distant wren
zenith kernel
mighty dock
distant wren
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anyway, need help with ice cradle
i wanna see if i'm doing smth wrong or i really can't kill with my invest atp

steady otter
distant wren
steady otter
steady otter
rough mica
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lucky dude's laugh

steady otter
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Now that vid just my friend yapping

ocean zenith
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any character that can reduce enemy resistance is good for luna oblivion right?

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and boost her nihil dmg

dapper skiff
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*any elemental character

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Physical doesn't work

lilac vale
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what is this for RosettaDisappointed

mighty tusk
nova forum
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Oh ye I need to give leap to 2 units next patch

quiet lily
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who leap next patch

nova forum
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Balt and cw

quiet lily
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ohh baltshit

lilac vale
nova forum
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Or is cw the patch after

lilac vale
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I thought it was something actually useful

quiet lily
mighty tusk
vast crystal
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Who to leap first tho?

quiet lily
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so next patch we get free feral, cw and balter?

quiet lily
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wtf

vast crystal
mighty tusk
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Only stigmata

quiet lily
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my feralllll

nova forum
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How good is SSS Balt on slash compared to ss3

dapper skiff
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Who needs feral anyway

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Nanami solo

ocean zenith
dapper skiff
quiet lily
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solo CringeNo

dapper skiff
mighty tusk
dapper skiff
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Those in game percentage are random numbers they're yapping

nova forum
mighty tusk
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But his debuffs are elemental

livid lark
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the physical damage is only on his basic attacks

quiet lily
nova forum
quiet lily
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dont say u f2p terifrown

nova forum
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That is using bp

mighty tusk
quiet lily
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bp selector shard

nova forum
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Yes

quiet lily
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should be enough no?

agile garden
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will lilith be available in the voucher shop after getting her free in events?

livid lark
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yes

nova forum
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70 x 802 = 56140 (for Lilith)
20 x 802 = 16040 (for Balt)

dapper skiff
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Whel

nova forum
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Currently my Balt ss3, + 30 from gift, another + 10 from 30rc bp

nova forum
carmine reef
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i'm ngl i don't feel that sss lilith is that crazy

turbid bridge
agile garden
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im a little dumb here but, after i SS lucid, should i push SS3 from voucher or save for SS3 lilith and ss3 balt?

dapper skiff
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SSS he said

carmine reef
turbid bridge
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Don’t even bother with stigmata honestly

rough mica
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ss3 balter not that worth anymore btw

nova forum
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Btw is Lilith gonna be in BP shard selector after her release

carmine reef
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no

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only leaps get added to bp

zenith thorn
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i keep forgetting i will have a free balter enxt patch EvilLiv

agile garden
nova forum
dawn cloak
turbid bridge
agile garden
soft solar
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what enemy do I miss here?

nova forum
turbid bridge
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Oh boi

livid lark
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almost 26

turbid bridge
meager iris
turbid bridge
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Free selector up to shukra next next next patch

livid lark
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cos then I can switch to discord on the fly

agile garden
meager iris
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ooh

dapper skiff
agile garden
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is it too late now to pull for balt sig knowing selena phy exist?

nova forum
turbid bridge
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Yes

carmine reef
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don't do it..........trust me

turbid bridge
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You have so many other better investments

agile garden
dapper skiff
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Just pull hanying sig and solo for better score

nova forum
dapper skiff
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You're asking to globlul people

dawn cloak
dapper skiff
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What are you expecting

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Wisdom?

nova forum
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Segs

dapper skiff
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Okay then

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Bend over now

nova forum
agile garden
nova forum
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No Imma use my mouth and bite you off

dapper skiff
nova forum
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The whole thing gonna get severed

peak halo
nova forum
dapper skiff
turbid bridge
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Ultima slash is dead on arrival for globlul if you don’t have good investment for it

still moat
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DumbDawn solo hanying all the way

nova forum
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Should I make a cottie set for hanying

agile garden
turbid bridge
nova forum
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For solo onslaught

vale raftBOT
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Current Roadmap (as of Mar 14th 2025)
orchid owl
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Damn

turbid bridge
lusty spear
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why can't we restart the 13 stage challenge, i need to checked it but then it just calculating all of it...

quiet lily
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3 S rank right after DudetrustMe

agile garden
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does SS ice alya buff allies or no damage difference at all since shes a QTE bot?

turbid bridge
orchid owl
# vale raft

If we had another triple patch after yata bananami pyroath, then we would actually catch up in august

lusty spear
agile garden
turbid bridge
quiet lily
turbid bridge
still moat
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rai is a whale its not gonna bother him

quiet lily
orchid owl
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Is scire worth sssing?

lusty spear
turbid bridge
agile garden
orchid owl
nova forum
distant wren
zenith thorn
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common misinfo
why is this so prevalence like actually

distant wren
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my bet is some CCs at it again

orchid owl
turbid bridge
rocky wedge
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Videos aren’t even enough, I showed even R0 SS0 can play Patton with high skill cap if you so want

deft apex
turbid bridge
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There’s no going back once you blow past a stage

still moat
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GR at it

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GR downfall incoming

turbid bridge
nova forum
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Misinfo so bad that hanying 4cottie set was removed from celica bot

rocky wedge
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Wait gr says that? Oo

deft apex
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Or at least iirc

turbid bridge
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Even echo too

nova forum
still moat
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fabiolao misinfo smh

quiet lily
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Fabio pls save gr from misinfo sobCri

deft apex
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I just know last time I checked it had a build for ss3+

lusty spear
barren plank
quiet lily
turbid bridge
lusty spear
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that's what make me feel it's troublesome...

turbid bridge
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Besides that badge doesn’t matter, you can’t see it anywhere except the CR page lulw

barren plank
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Wtf DumbDawn

turbid bridge
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GR’s recommended weapon reso for Pyroath is still on Hyperreal’s EvilLiv

quiet lily
barren plank
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Why?

quiet lily
ripe stag
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I like how some CW simps still are trying to convince people that CW is still the strongest/still the overpowered meta unit she was

peak halo
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Idk but bru
Cw is just cw
A unit who can powercrept like other unit

livid lark
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he tried

ripe stag
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I don't see any other character's simps being this deadset

ripe stag
dapper skiff
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Apparently u still can't stop talking about cw simp coping for the 64th time

ripe stag
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And here we go

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The #1 Ezra simp

distant wren
livid lark
distant wren
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absolute cinema kek

livid lark
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GR fell long before Fabio joined

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it was just a matter of time before we got to see into the can of worms

ripe stag
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GR is dead

radiant palm
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Does gifting fragrant wishes just give extra affection?

ripe stag
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They don't update the website with actual relevant character details

distant wren
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pretty garbage of them seeing what they do now

turbid bridge
radiant palm
ripe stag
dapper skiff
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So gr is actually fcked

radiant palm
turbid bridge
ripe stag
dapper skiff
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It's not really exaggerating if we say gr refuses to update builds

turbid bridge
turbid bridge
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Gotta gift different ones

radiant palm
ripe stag
turbid bridge
radiant palm
turbid bridge
orchid owl
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As an sss cw owner I am disappointed in the power creep, it's crazy how she is weaker than other elements, and she will get dunked by her own soon

distant wren
ripe stag
rose yew
ripe stag
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He did nothing wrong technically

radiant palm
ripe stag
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Not here

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Delete that btw

distant wren
ripe stag
distant wren
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@livid lark can u dm me if u don't mind? EvilLiv
but it's ok if it can't be shared

ripe stag
livid lark
turbid bridge
#

Yea it’s not even private lulw

distant wren
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ah yea ofc lmao

dapper skiff
#

Boi u own him an apology after that shi talks

turbid bridge
still moat
#

what was being deleted

dapper skiff
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Something something gr past

still moat
livid lark
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not to be discussed here

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if you want to know more come into bot server

ripe stag
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I agree I took him as the same as Fury who didn't recheck what he's posting

still moat
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what bot server

hazy cypress
dapper skiff
#

Learn attitude mf

hazy cypress
#

Not ezra calling people out on misinfo

vale raftBOT
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livid lark
limber yoke
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Dalao server

ripe stag
#

Self promo

livid lark
ripe stag
#

Jk jk

ripe stag
distant wren
#

oh right EvilLiv

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should be you EvilLiv

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u dalao

limber yoke
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Oh 6.54

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The bears are holding 400k points hostage

distant wren
dreamy pelican
hazy cypress
dreamy pelican
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real recognises real type shii

quiet lily
carmine reef
dapper skiff
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@distant wren @zenith kernel u guys got sss wanshi?

How often u guys do 3 rot on sss wanshi with only ss0 qu

carmine reef
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3 rot isn't about qu cause you can fit it into swap cd regardless

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it's just about what kind of waves wanshi will see

dreamy pelican
# hazy cypress <:lulw:842384743269924925>

adding onto this

i still remember when ezra taught me how to do wanshi rot when he came out

and, clueless as i was to wanshi back then, followed clueless then i wondered why i did so little dmg compared to others

he taught me wanshi triple rot.

carmine reef
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it's about dmg distribution

distant wren
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so far for all 3 WZs i did triple like at least half the time for each

dreamy pelican
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iirc it wasnt even the full triple rot

it was the rot without the third ult

carmine reef
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if double rot causes overkills then you do triple on that swap instead

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i also typically do 3 rot about half the time

dreamy pelican
carmine reef
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but it's for different swaps each week

dapper skiff
carmine reef
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it depends on what wave you run into

dreamy pelican
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i thought triple rot was the standard rot for him KareninaGasp

nova forum
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What's the "cost" to get all 3 weap USB?

carmine reef
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like if wanshi swaps into squishy wave you should do 3 rot

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if wanshi swaps into tanky wave you should do 2 rot

turbid bridge
carmine reef
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you'll typically be doing 3 rot in the first couple swaps

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then later in the run you might be deciding based on wave to do 2 rot instead

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cause later the waves will have more hp

nova forum
turbid bridge
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Unless you’re going for S+ Lilith day 1

distant wren
nova forum
turbid bridge
nova forum
turbid bridge
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No?

nova forum
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Maybe

turbid bridge
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That banner is for Lilith only

nova forum
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Wadapak

turbid bridge
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Ishmael is on the normal debut banner

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Bro you good?

keen meteor
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only spending on that banner counts
not overall spending on your account

nova forum
dreamy pelican
dapper skiff
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Whaduhelll

turbid bridge
dapper skiff
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viewsfarming

turbid bridge
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My videos to watch while I’m eating dinner

carmine reef
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it's different for everyone bc different invests will get wanshi to swap into different waves

dreamy pelican
dapper skiff
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I'll watch it later then

carmine reef
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like kale invest even will be changing what you do

distant wren
nova forum
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Who's at legend with 233 112 111 ice

distant wren
dreamy pelican
orchid owl
carmine reef
orchid owl
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I am moving to hero after reset lmao

nova forum
carmine reef
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cow sig and r1 is a lot in ice

orchid owl
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R2 for me

carmine reef
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yea talking about that video

dreamy pelican
dapper skiff
orchid owl
dreamy pelican
orchid owl
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Definitely not optimal

carmine reef
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it's ~600k higher than my score with 5* kale which sounds correct to me

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or 500k

nova forum
dapper skiff
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The chonkier total score is, the bigger gap between invest

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It scales up altogether

vague nebula
dreamy pelican
carmine reef
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ye cause that's what i get

still moat
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Isn't that last week ice tho

orchid owl
dapper skiff
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Also B E A R S is an insta more score per wave

carmine reef
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and i don't think my score is capped either

still moat
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AlphaPeek my wantap score with no sig kaleido this week is 4.5m, with r1 kaleido it's 5.3m

nova forum
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Mi bomboclat

dapper skiff
distant wren
dreamy pelican
dapper skiff
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How often did u run to orbs issues when doing 3 rot

still moat
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I think so

dapper skiff
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U use dlt?

still moat
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Last week is boss zone right ? It has higher score than double elite by default

distant wren
carmine reef
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shouldn't have orb issues as long as you do at least some 2 rots

dapper skiff
carmine reef
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if you do literally only 3 rot you will run out after several swaps

distant wren
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i got orb issues like 50/50

carmine reef
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3 rot is -9 but 2 rot is -4 only

dapper skiff
dreamy pelican
carmine reef
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  • random orb gain from parries
distant wren
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or maybe 4 idr

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if you're dalao enough to red parry wanshi's blue grenade everytime tho then should be no issue ig

dapper skiff
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Tf u mean red parry wanshi blue

vale raftBOT
#
Wanshi: Lucid Dreamer
Skill - Core Passive (Lv. 18)

Moment of Clarity - Silence Snow
Trigger: Press and Hold Red Orb or Dodge

Starts charging to generate Calibration, while gaining Super Armor and 90% DMG Reduction.

  • When Calibration is lower than 80, gains 20 Calibration every second. When Calibration is lower than 160 but no lower than 80, gains 40 Calibration every second. When Calibration is no lower than 160, gains 80 Calibration every second.
  • Max 200 Calibration.
  • Releasing the button early while charging will automatically dodge. Gains Calibration normally while dodging. Upon a successful dodge, additionally gains a Signal Orb.
carmine reef
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hitting red is a dodge

distant wren
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last paragraph

pine slate
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he gets an orb if u dodge with red

carmine reef
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if you do perfect dodge it's the parry sound and you get an orb

dapper skiff
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The party thing?

carmine reef
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it's a little annoying tho it adds some framelag

distant wren
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yea and he can do that with his grenade from blue

dapper skiff
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Ewwww

nova forum
dapper skiff
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No

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I'm not homeless

dreamy pelican
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@carmine reef you got an ice run recording somewhere that i can follow? preferably one thats recorded this week

dapper skiff
nova forum
dapper skiff
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(big cap)

carmine reef
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i don't have one from this week

dreamy pelican
carmine reef
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i typically upload only my runs from the first week that a char comes out

dapper skiff
carmine reef
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so i have last week's

dreamy pelican
dapper skiff
dreamy pelican
carmine reef
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i guess? the timings for when i 3 rot or 2 rot is different cause different waves

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but the logic is the same

dreamy pelican
dreamy pelican
dapper skiff
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Weird thing about Wanshi

carmine reef
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yeah

still moat
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No but I did the same rot as I was trying ur invest

deft apex
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look at the diff for ice vs anything else on cradle this week lmao

carmine reef
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i have same invest as yours except huiyu

dapper skiff
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His core literally won't be filled if u cancel yellow instantly

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But not blue

carmine reef
turbid bridge
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So annoying honestly

dapper skiff
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What is this spaghetti Coding

dreamy pelican
still moat
carmine reef
dapper skiff
dreamy pelican
dapper skiff
carmine reef
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why even cancel the orbs

dapper skiff
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The way wanshi is allergic to anything fast grind my gears to its fullest

dreamy pelican
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im guessing that orbs register at different times in their animation

and that this register can be completely denied if layered with another orb input if done fast enough

dapper skiff
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His red timing is weird

carmine reef
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3p into 3p has a special chain animation so no reason to cancel the first 3p, and you can't even dodge cancel the second one cause it'll make you do the red reload animation

dapper skiff
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His orbs cancel is awkward

carmine reef
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there's no reason to dodge cancel wanshi 3p really

dapper skiff
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New wave

carmine reef
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get ur parries up bro

dapper skiff
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Eewww

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Parrying

carmine reef
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it's like part of the rotation already

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i haven't had this issue you described and i'm not really thinking about it

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just 3p 3p red and you'll be fine

limber yoke
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Ew parries

carmine reef
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the REAL issue is that wanshi won't do his reload if there's no enemy

dapper skiff
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Ikr

carmine reef
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so if you happen to do reload in between wave spawns

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run is literally bricked

dreamy pelican
nova forum
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Sometimes he doesn't

carmine reef
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not for ult1

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it will still work for ult2 but i've noticed it several times for ult1 the reload fails if the enemy dies

dreamy pelican
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aintnoway they tied the reload to enemy lock rather than the actual gun and ammo mechanic

carmine reef
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also ult1 reload can fail too if the enemy hitbox is bodyblocking you

dreamy pelican
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nice one kuso ICANT

carmine reef
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they can literally block wanshi from reaching the reload

dreamy pelican
carmine reef
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reload is all sorts of doomed

woven haven
dreamy pelican
woven haven
carmine reef
woven haven
dreamy pelican
woven haven
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the reload is an actual attack

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sig even doubles reload dmg

carmine reef
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This move pulls in and debuffs enemies, deals DMG, grants 3 Signature Energy and an Ancillary Revolver, and triggers Matrix if available.

dreamy pelican
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wait hold on

nova forum
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Damn indie devs

carmine reef
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wait this is the wrong reload i think

dreamy pelican
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did they code the reload to deal like, one damage

and if that reload does one dmg, it triggers the rest of the reload mechanic

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this is some league of legends spaghetti code

woven haven
carmine reef
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  • Deals 800% Ice DMG when throwing the Ancillary Revolver. Tapping Red Orb again or dodging will make Wanshi: Lucid Dreamer automatically rush to the Ancillary Revolver’s landing point, during which he will be invincible. Upon successfully catching the thrown revolver, reload the Cylinder and refresh the duration of Calibration Mode.
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this is the right one

woven haven
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ye

carmine reef
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so if there's no enemy, he won't throw the revolver

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doomed

woven haven
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mhmm

dreamy pelican
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probably because the reload 'attack' isnt targeted to anyone

carmine reef
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not really an excuse

dreamy pelican
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or maybe because it dealt no dmg, so it didnt trigger the rest of the -bullshit

carmine reef
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every other skill can still target nothing fine just picking a direction based on character orientation

dapper skiff
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I've been soloing with wanshi for a bit

Hasn't found him failed throwing a gun for reload

dreamy pelican
dapper skiff
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Getting blocked make sense

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Because like

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Worms

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Phatass

carmine reef
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i've seen it happen multiple times

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failing reload cause no enemy

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and aether confirmed it's a thing so EvilLiv

dapper skiff
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How r u doing that

nova forum
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I got that also last night

dreamy pelican
nova forum
dreamy pelican
pine slate
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bro ive failed reload from no enemy, when the enemy is too close, and when the enemy is too big

carmine reef
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yep

pine slate
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wanshi misses his throws on bears a lot

dapper skiff
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What are y'all doing with wanshi to get those issues LMAO

pine slate
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even tho they're right in front of him

still moat
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I have genuinely never see wanshi reload failing on cn

carmine reef
still moat
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So these are news to me

distant wren
# still moat

imagine getting a close to ideal run
then you got this on the last 20s EvilLiv

pine slate
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idk if u believe me or not but ice wz is the only wz where i willingly mald

dreamy pelican
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okay wait

carmine reef
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anyway the no enemy reload fail happens if you kill the wave with bullet 6

dreamy pelican
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i think i might have found why

dapper skiff
nova forum
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Sss account issues

nova forum
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Damn whel

dapper skiff
pine slate
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what's kurai's issue

carmine reef
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i just linked to it

dapper skiff
nova forum
dapper skiff
carmine reef
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but it shouldn't be an issue because you don't need to dodge cancel them

pine slate
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what core DumbDawn

dapper skiff
carmine reef
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of the 2 3pings you do, the first one doesn't need to be dodge canceled cause there's a chain animation into another 3p, and the second one can't be dodge canceled or else you have to wait to avoid chaining it into dodge red

dapper skiff
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Now I miss solo qu

carmine reef
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so there's no reason to dodge cancel

dapper skiff
nova forum
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Btw

pine slate
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ye u dont dodge cancel with wanshi

dapper skiff
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Playing void with wata turned me on fr fr

pine slate
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just feels like a unnecessary time loss to me

dreamy pelican
# dreamy pelican i think i might have found why

i think the reload location is determined from wanshi's location

the game draws 2 lines to the left or right of wanshi, and makes the reload point somewhere in there. then the game teleports wanshi to the reload point when he presses red or dodge

i think the reload doesnt work because, for one of the few reasons (i think there are multiple), the game cant teleport wanshi into the reload point

nova forum
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Is wanshi yellow orb always set to be on most right on orb lineup?

carmine reef
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yep

dapper skiff
carmine reef
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not necessarily

dapper skiff
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But most of the time it's on the left

coarse gorge
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4 patton or 4 pc cottie for solacetune.. i am getting different answer everywhere WorryCommandant

nova forum
carmine reef
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cottie is for if you're soloing

nova forum
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Wadapak

coarse gorge
dapper skiff
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Wasnhi orb rearrange prioritize blue orb first 3 and yellow next 3

carmine reef
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then off to cottie jail with you

dapper skiff
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Actually scrap that

dreamy pelican
# still moat

the first clip is probably because the reload point was determined to be at the left, but wanshi cannot be teleported to it/cant do the animation because of the actor that spawned

coarse gorge
dapper skiff
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If u got matrix, it'll put the fewest orb colour to the right for slot 1 for matrix orb

distant wren
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damn lucky

dapper skiff
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So just pray that u don't get yellow for matrix

coarse gorge
dapper skiff
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What are the elements again

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My ppc is 0EvilLiv

dreamy pelican
distant wren
limber yoke
distant wren
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no way ppc dalao hasn't unlocked it? KareninaGasp

dapper skiff
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Slacklao fr

limber yoke
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The scores on emperor

coarse gorge
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i only have 200 skulls, ig not worth to try for ss bianca? LuciaOwO2

limber yoke
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Also idk if fushen needs one aswell

dapper skiff
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No?

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200

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What are u gonna get with that lmaooo

carmine reef
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you'll get your ss bianca next patch

dapper skiff
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Not even enough for S5 isn't it

carmine reef
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ffor free

distant wren
carmine reef
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it is exactly enough for s5 actually

distant wren
carmine reef
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but no need cause free balter next patch

dapper skiff
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What does S5 balter do again?

carmine reef
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crit rate i think

dapper skiff
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I literally forgor what it does

vale raftBOT
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Bianca: Stigmata
Skill - SS

ss_rank Severed Light

Lv 1 - Unlocked at S5 Rank

CRIT Rate increases by 20%.

Lv 2 - Unlocked at SS Rank

Activating Sword Form with more than half Afterglow Points left will grant each hit of Basic Attack and Afterglow Shadow cast in Sword Form 2 bonus stacks of Stigmata Will. Stigmata Will now stacks up to 99 times. Casting Signature - Illuminated Abyss will activate all available QTEs.

carmine reef
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yeah

dapper skiff
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Whaduhelll

coarse gorge
carmine reef
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yes

dapper skiff
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Yeah

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Dupe = 30 shards for S rank Character

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Which is just enough for ss0 from scratch

carmine reef
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so just sit tight and don't spend a single skull on that ho

coarse gorge
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then i guess i will cope with patton for now as i used usbs on it deadge

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solo patton cope for now

carmine reef
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it's only like 2.5 weeks

dreamy pelican
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but the game bugs out if something spawns/disrupts the reload point after the location has been determined

coarse gorge
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anyways, it was not the main reason i was here, i wanted to know which ppc wanshi better. 4pc dv 4pc chen or 4pc dv 2pc gloria 2pc eins

dapper skiff
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DV Chen for DPS qu

coarse gorge
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i forgot my og build AlphaInnocent

coarse gorge
dapper skiff
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Slap eins and more healer mems on kale

coarse gorge
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on my acc

carmine reef
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4pc eins......

dapper skiff
peak halo
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idk but
s0 balter that🚮
even me can swap to ca with ss0 han and 3s alisa
cuz double rot with alisa is💀

carmine reef
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brother......

coarse gorge
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someone told me to put that months ago 😭

carmine reef
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you got gigatrolled

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4eins is dookie

coarse gorge
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well she is not resonated yet, so not a lose

dapper skiff
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Aintnoway

flint igloo
carmine reef
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put dv cjy on wanshi and either 222 guin eins glo or 4guin 2eins for kale, depending on the kill

coarse gorge
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wz kaleido has 4pc dv 2 eins or is it cope too WorryCommandant

carmine reef
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that's correct

dapper skiff
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If u have Wanshi harmo, it make sense

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When qu and wanshi have harmo, neither of them will hold eins

coarse gorge
dapper skiff
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So Ayla hold it instead

coarse gorge
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so for ppc wanshi, 4pc dv 4pc chen?

carmine reef
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ye

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although some kills you might actually use dps wanshi instead

dapper skiff
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DPS wanshi?