📨・meta-help

[wide prairie]

I m too poor to swipe

[ripe stag]

What the actual

[chilly trail]

https://tenor.com/view/pepega-swipe-pepega-swipe-credit-card-credit-gif-23046210

[ripe stag]

I know she can bypass Ion but seriously?

[wispy robin]

https://youtu.be/t03OXEvWQlY?si=NNrC6T3yzCwZ_Vkt

[raw swift]

If ur casual no need to math

[ripe stag]

2.3m

[raw swift]

Just pull pyroath 4 times

Wth is that name

Watananaknight

[ripe stag]

Just skip wata

Should have skipped wata tbf

We don't need wata

Nor do we need CW

[wispy robin]

sss nana > ss wata btw

[ripe stag]

Nor do we need Daren leap

[ripe stag]

Cuz higher shred or bypass damage ?

[wispy robin]

higher shred + -3sec

[ripe stag]

My Wata's S+

[wide prairie]

Ok, what does nana do?

[raw swift]

Damage

[ripe stag]

Lightning Tank

[wide prairie]

Lots?

[raw swift]

Lots

[ripe stag]

Combustion effeft

[ripe stag]

She's practically 1 girl army

[raw swift]

The true 1 woman army

[ripe stag]

Girl

[raw swift]

True

[wispy robin]

watanana epirail

[wide prairie]

Lamia level?

[ripe stag]

Lamia ?

[raw swift]

Miles beyond that

[ripe stag]

Who's lamia lol

Can't compare Nanaknight to Lamia interms of damage

[wide prairie]

Hmmm,, so should i sss her instead of oath?

[ripe stag]

Too big of a gap

[raw swift]

don't sss anyone tbh

[wispy robin]

lamia is literally the worst dps after cw

[sleek basin]

lamia is weak by today's standards

[ripe stag]

Don't sss anyone as F2P

[wide prairie]

Really? I think she is my highest

[ripe stag]

Nah
She's still strong af in today's standards
It's her own team which drags her down

[wispy robin]

she deal wet noodle dmg compared to likes of nana

[wide prairie]

I haven't pulled in months, i want that rush of character going unga bunga

[raw swift]

Having one unit SSS and skipping is far worse than SS and not missing anyone

[ripe stag]

Comparing late gen 3 tank meant to replace CW form Main-DPS slot to Laurel replacement

[sleek basin]

sss won't do much alone

[ripe stag]

SSS won't do that alone

[raw swift]

And please do not SSS ishmael at the cost of skipping luna I've seen so many make this mistake

[sleek basin]

vertical investment is not a great choice in pgr

[raw swift]

PGR believes in investment equality

[wide prairie]

Ok, all this thing is due to sss right?

Ok what if i only do ss as u all suggesting?

[ripe stag]

Everyone SS0 + sig + cub is better than 1 unit at SSS + sig + cub and everyone else SS0 no sig no cub

[raw swift]

You'll be fin

[ripe stag]

Better

[sleek basin]

ss is ok
pull 1 copy and done
rank up throught ppc skulls, not pulling again

[wide prairie]

Will i be able to afford, oath+nana sig and cub?

[raw swift]

Probably

[ripe stag]

me with SSS Wanshi looking at this

[raw swift]

Just don't offrate i guess

[ripe stag]

Probably

How much does he have

50k?

[sleek basin]

it's dorm unit

[raw swift]

50000

[ripe stag]

Oh damn he can

[raw swift]

It came at a hefty price

He's not pulling hanying

[ripe stag]

WHAT

[wide prairie]

And both my selectors for wata and hanyi

[ripe stag]

THE ACTUAL

[raw swift]

What

[ripe stag]

[wide prairie]

I have not use my standard selector yet

[raw swift]

You said you'd pull wata then pyroath and nanami and now hanying

[sleek basin]

[raw swift]

You said you'd use that for wata

[wide prairie]

But Ishmael patch refresh it right?

[raw swift]

Just pull hanying now and wata from standard easy

[ripe stag]

I love this dude man

[raw swift]

If you have to pull a unit from standard it's probably going to be ishmael

[sleek basin]

get luna after refresh if u don't have her

[chilly trail]

With calibration next patch does the actual winrate(feeling to win) lower than usual?

[lament yoke]

Not pulling hanying is really that bad idea or its just skipping which is bad?

[raw swift]

What

[ripe stag]

No

[ripe stag]

It is really that bad

[raw swift]

They're two sides of the same coin

[ripe stag]

Do you see how much bad Balter is at below SSS0 ?

[raw swift]

Skipping is bad because units are strong

[remote pier]

[lament yoke]

I see, so skipping in general is bad
Not that hanying is omega important

[raw swift]

She os

That's why skipping in general is bad

[sleek basin]

i always get +1 second in the end for some reason
but yeah, used qukra only for knight
probably could wanshi it as well, but alas

[cold walrus]

@wispy robin how much fire shred does nanaknight have?

[raw swift]

Probably like 25

[vale raft]

Nanami: Startrail

Skill - QTE (Lv. 18)

Orbital Interference

Deals damage and debuffs enemies.

• Deals an initial 300.0% Lightning DMG. Upon dealing damage, applies the Turbulence Interference effect that reduces enemies' Lightning Resistance by 25% for 8s. Afterwards, deals 50.0% Lightning DMG every second for 8s.
  If Nanami has a Cinder Emblem when this skill is cast, deals an initial 300.0% Combustion DMG instead and applies the Scorching Invasion effect that reduces enemies' Fire Resistance by 25% for 8s. Afterwards, deals 50.0% Combustion DMG every second for 8s.

[raw swift]

I go

[sleek basin]

[vale raft]

Watanabe: Epitaph

Skill - QTE (Lv. 18)

Pincer Intimidation

Spins and slashes continuously to pull in nearby enemy units, dealing Fire DMG to the target while inflicting Scorching Invasion that reduces their Fire Resistance.

• Deals 600.0% Fire DMG in total. Scorching Invasion reduces the target's Fire Resistance by 25% for 8s.

[crystal breach]

which one is better for solacetune

moon stroll or solitary crane?

[raw swift]

two seconds lmao

[wide prairie]

K, everyone thanks for your inputs, i will decide what to do before this patch ends

[raw swift]

Just ss'ing everyone is so much easier

My deepest condolences to those that skipped Luna

[wide prairie]

Jst making sure 1 more time,
Pull hanyi rn 1 copy, than standard wata, ss oath, ss nana, standard Ishmael

[raw swift]

Under the limited context of ishmael being the maindps

[lament yoke]

Who can be a good replacement for luna in void team

[raw swift]

No one LMAO

[wide prairie]

teddy......

[raw swift]

I've trashed on ishmael before and I'll do it again

[lament yoke]

Thanks

[raw swift]

Luna is SINGLEHANDEDLY the MOST important unit foe the void team

[wide prairie]

No that was a jokez dont listen to me

[raw swift]

It's not remotely even comparably close

[mighty dock]

10% void doing wonders against the void shield

[raw swift]

Ishmael is nothing without Luna

[wide prairie]

Your pfp is ryu from danmachi right?

[wide prairie]

So does that mean i can skip her?

[raw swift]

No

[wide prairie]

sigh

[lament yoke]

....

[raw swift]

It's just that she only has value after u have luna

[wide prairie]

Are there any non standard selectors coming in future patches?

[raw swift]

In selena patch

We get a free selector up to qu

[wide prairie]

Man i should have skipped qu

[lament yoke]

Why?

[raw swift]

No you shouldn't have

[wide prairie]

Cause she in selector

[raw swift]

That's not a valid reason

[lament yoke]

Great idea

[wide prairie]

For me i don't pulls units if they come in selectors

[sleek basin]

[wide prairie]

Waste of bc

[lament yoke]

Fr

[raw swift]

Yeah let's just not have an ice attacker for what 10 patches? No problem

[lament yoke]

Im skipping hanying too cuz someday he'll be available in voucher shop

[wide prairie]

Would have made sss oath so much easier

[wide prairie]

Great mind thinks alike

[raw swift]

Skip everyone

[sleek basin]

we told you sss isn't a thing for f2p

[raw swift]

Cause they're all bound to be in a selector anyway

[sleek basin]

jesus

[rocky wedge]

f2p can get sss

[raw swift]

The problem is that you can only choose one unit in a selector

[rocky wedge]

but only the free farmable chars obviously unless u are lucky in the gacha

[sleek basin]

voucher unit, not pyroath

[raw swift]

Instead of being mentally sane and just pulling them from debut

[wide prairie]

But u can only choose 1 from selector, so better to not take the latest one that can come in selector

[raw swift]

...

[sleek basin]

selector shouldn't be your deciding factor to pull someone or not
it's a measure to catch up

[raw swift]

The selena selector is AN ENTIRE YEAR'S WORTH OF PGR away from Qu's patch

[wide prairie]

I jst want my lucia to be powerful and in bride costume😭

[raw swift]

She's powerful at SS

Hell even ss3 is already insane

[lament yoke]

How powerful?

[raw swift]

SSS is just overkill

[sleek basin]

f2p and gacha coating
oh yeah
the greatest combo

[lament yoke]

You can be the most powerful dude with s pyroath in Elite wz and adv ppc

[raw swift]

You can pull SSS pyroath I genuinely don't care but you don't have a single excuse if you complain about other aspects of your account being lackluster

[lament yoke]

[rocky wedge]

[wide prairie]

Wanna see my f2p gacha coating splurges?

[raw swift]

No

[lament yoke]

Yea please

[raw swift]

[rocky wedge]

there is no hope

[sleek basin]

reminds me of recent sss lamia dude

[raw swift]

[wide prairie]

These r the only ones sadly

[rocky wedge]

well i dont think thats f2p

so good job

[raw swift]

Yeah that's spender stuff right there

[wide prairie]

Eh? But i m f2p

[shy jackal]

"Too poor to swipe"

[raw swift]

Garnet skin in a solo cw team

[sleek basin]

garnet without sig but with coating

[shy jackal]

Whel react this mf

[wide prairie]

But i wanted to woof

[rocky wedge]

ok

[shy jackal]

R3 BALTER SIG

And lamia

[raw swift]

SSS

[cold walrus]

my another f2p acc has empy balter and vera gacha coatings

[raw swift]

They're missing alot of units though for sure

[cold walrus]

and that acc is really f2poor ass

[rocky wedge]

ye and how's their equipment looking

[sleek basin]

and ss'es

[rocky wedge]

probably looking great

[sleek basin]

bet amps don't have sigs

[rocky wedge]

missing some characters too im sure

[raw swift]

Slide the Huaxu

[rocky wedge]

sig + cub together isnt even 17k bc

[crystal breach]

is it better to hypertune the memories on the botom first?

[shy jackal]

Yes

Those provide attack

[crystal breach]

thats better than increasing crit?

[rocky wedge]

yes

crit doesnt do anything in this game

[lament yoke]

You don't have beach vera skin? D:

[raw swift]

Beach vera skin so muc better

[wide prairie]

Thats paid sadly

[raw swift]

I think it's called waverider

[rocky wedge]

and the phys amp is free, her sig memory gives 75% crit rate, base lvl 80 char + weapon will have enough crit rate for 100%

[mighty dock]

YES

[wide prairie]

Only gen 1 characters

[mighty dock]

Im sad s5 ended though i need more

[rocky wedge]

and elements cant crit

[raw swift]

What's ur uid

[rocky wedge]

i dont mean ur acc

[raw swift]

And server ideally

[wide prairie]

It will re pick though, in may i think?

[crystal breach]

u talking about solacetune?

[wide prairie]

Asia pacific

[raw swift]

Alisa

[rocky wedge]

no, alisa - solacetune is a tank

[lament yoke]

D

[rocky wedge]

well tank that is main dmg dealer for phys

[wide prairie]

15396653

[mighty dock]

Re pick?

[rocky wedge]

alisa: echo is the physical amplifier

https://tenor.com/view/punishing-gray-ravens-alisa-alisa-pgr-alisa-echo-pgr-gif-13608174575199824667

[wide prairie]

I meant like they will reboot it, with the war games still ongoing

[crystal breach]

oh I asked bcs im hypertuning Solacetune (im a new player) and dont have enough for full hypertune

[rocky wedge]

thats fine

[mighty dock]

The war game just ended though

[ripe stag]

War games ended

[rocky wedge]

u can HT top for her later

just make sure u get alisa from dorm missions

[wide prairie]

Ehhhhhhhhhh?!?!,

[ripe stag]

It's time for level 8 Bell arc

[mighty dock]

And as far as im concerned next chapter doesnt have a war game

[ripe stag]

[lament yoke]

Not F2P D:

[mighty dock]

level 8???

So does he double rank up or something

[wide prairie]

Wait, i haven't seen the latest eps then

[ripe stag]

That's a joke

[mighty dock]

With how fast he's progressing i took it seriously

[rocky wedge]

cause without alisa, u will barely be able to crit and nothing can save that not even HT top memories

since the crit u get in return is so little anyway

u still only have like 30% or so max which is garbage

[wide prairie]

? But i m

[mighty dock]

Do it for ryu

[red perch]

In special dispatch mpde, do late game players ever feel like they actually make a difference to stages?

[wide prairie]

Yes i will

[mighty dock]

S4's still my favorite because of her

[crystal breach]

wait where do I check my crit rate

[wide prairie]

That was peak

[rocky wedge]

dont even worry about it honestly, just get alisa and her sig memory xd

it really isnt worth caring about in pgr

[lament yoke]

How much did you get on hell Lilith?

[raw swift]

It's questionable

[rocky wedge]

like u cant go higher then about 30% which is very trash in a game

[crystal breach]

damn

[ripe stag]

He is still level 5

[crystal breach]

but only physical units care about crit right?

[rocky wedge]

thats why a character like alisa exists, cause if u cant fix it one way - fix it with a character lmao

ye

the elements cant crit so doesnt matter

[crystal breach]

ok but as long as I have Alisa that problem is gone right?

[rocky wedge]

and her sig memory yes

[vale raft]

Signa ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

Physical DMG increases by 5% and Extra DMG Bonus increases by 5%.

4pc Set Bonus

Base DMG of Imprisoning Co-Strike and Soulbreaking Co-Strike increases by 100%. Allies healed by Echo gain an extra 20% CRIT DMG and 75% CRIT Rate for 8s. Triggering this effect again will renew its duration.

ATK

132

CRIT

66

DEF

223

HP

1491

[ripe stag]

You don't need to check crit rate and crit damage stats in PGR
Just use Alisa with her signature memory set and she'll make sure your attacks crit

[raw swift]

When alisa qte is pung the only numbers i see are yellow

[crystal breach]

which I should be getting anyway 😅

[rocky wedge]

but you can farm ALL the memories in the event material stage so no worries

[raw swift]

I guess it's alright

[wide prairie]

Ok how do i prove it? Is there something that only a whel could have if the spend but f2p can't?

[rocky wedge]

for u as a new player it will just be a thing of patience cause stamina limitations

[crystal breach]

yeah thats so good

[raw swift]

Tue main problem is your investment

[wide prairie]

?

[ripe stag]

75% crit rate buff + character's native crit rate = either near 100% or over 100% crit rate

[raw swift]

You spent so much bc for an above average dark team

[ripe stag]

Like Balter has over 100% crit rate

[crystal breach]

ik, its very annoying missing most of my crits as solacetune lol

[ripe stag]

So guaranteed crit

[wispy robin]

found someone omega clueless
every single of his chars have 6 crit/atk on them

[raw swift]

And in return you have subpar teams left

Can a 22.33 111 111 dark team 600k lilith?

[wide prairie]

Y? Above average? The thing is i have no clue of meta, jst that i really liked lamia that i poured all that into her

[ripe stag]

Yes
I did it

[crystal breach]

tbh pgr should explain better how the crit stat works

[raw swift]

Lamia is super heavily dependent on her teammates

[ripe stag]

It can even 610k but needs insane skills

[raw swift]

To only whale on here was a waste

[crystal breach]

everything I know about crit came from yall

[rocky wedge]

we used to mald with crimson abyss in ppc, before characters like alisa existed or leaped lumi xd And ye since pgr doesnt have pseudo random crit - you can crit once or twice, or almost every hit lmao xdd

with CA you would have to get like 7/8 sword waves to crit

with 30% crit rate if even

[wide prairie]

Is she? I jst do her rotation multiple times, than swap off when no orb then get back into her stuff again

[raw swift]

...swap?

[rocky wedge]

like i think only sss+ CA had 30%, SS had like 28% or something

[raw swift]

U solo lamia

[crystal breach]

barely a difference but ig it meant a lot for yall back then lmao

[wide prairie]

Yea like after 3-4 rotations of her skills, all orbs are used up, except in guild raid

[raw swift]

Ur using her wrong

[wide prairie]

Yea

[rocky wedge]

it was literally just a matter of luck

[raw swift]

You can't really swap with that team tbh

[rocky wedge]

i had some times where i did one or 2 tries and crit every hit

[raw swift]

But u can pretty easily solo lamia

[rocky wedge]

stupid game 💀 thank goodness they fixed all that nonsense

[wide prairie]

Should i show u what i do? So u can point it out for me?

[raw swift]

Like solo lamia genuinely isn't bad

[crystal breach]

damn resetting for crits sounds like pain ngl

[rocky wedge]

ye someone I knew had malded 9hrs straight on one boss for one shot

[raw swift]

Well the thing is lightning and dark team are my weak points too and I don have lamia sig

[cold walrus]

unplayable 💀

[rocky wedge]

cause all he needed was just to crit a specific amount of time, which took 9hrs

[wide prairie]

I mean if i jst put a vid here, maybe an expert will see it by chance?

[raw swift]

Do it

[rocky wedge]

ye we all did stupid stuff idk why we did that to ourselves honestly Dx

[crystal breach]

I can also get Alisa dupes for free from vouchers right?

[wide prairie]

Where should i use her though?

[rocky wedge]

wuwa players will never know the circus that crap was xD

[raw swift]

Do you have dark warzone rn

[rocky wedge]

ye, tho u should focus on wanshi first after u unlock her

[crystal breach]

yall just loved self-torturing ig😅

[raw swift]

We have the same investments lmao

[rocky wedge]

cause he will carry ur ice

[cold walrus]

i wish next phys amp will be paid and crit rate buff gated at sss rank

[wide prairie]

No

[raw swift]

The only difference is that my lamia is SS0 5* with no cub and you have SSS0 R3 with cub

And you only have 40k higher than me on lilith

[crystal breach]

so its better to get wanshi first then Alisa then go for wanshi dupes and then Alisa dupes?

[cold walrus]

tbh phys is forever bricked

[thorn creek]

What the feesh

[raw swift]

So clearly you're doing something wrong with her rot

[rocky wedge]

i think just get alisa first so thats over and done with then get wanshi

[raw swift]

But with that invest lilith should be dead by the 3-4th rot anyway

[wide prairie]

Since i only need to show my rotation for her, can't i jst use any warzone tbh?

[raw swift]

Sure

[rocky wedge]

cause phys is unplayable without alisa and her sig mem fr

[wide prairie]

No she dead by 2nd i think

[raw swift]

How'd you only get 590k

[crystal breach]

yeah I already have solacetune with sig + cub, thats gonna be a earlier, more noticeable increase

[raw swift]

2 rot lamia is like 20 seconds

Accounting for Lilith's intro time

[crystal breach]

though I will be kinda cooked for stronghold ngl, no 3rd dps

[rocky wedge]

its permanent so no stress

[crystal breach]

I will just have to brute force with laurel for now tbh

[raw swift]

What i don't understand how u only got 590k

[crystal breach]

yeah ik but I wanna get everything for Pyroath + nanaknight and their sigs so theres that

i mean ig I have enough time to get Wanshi and use him by then

[rocky wedge]

ye and also enough BC from other content

there is a lot of story

and since u have hanying already, dont use BC on anything else

except maybe wanshi sig if u can get it

[raw swift]

Can 313 355 100 dark team 600K lilith???

[rocky wedge]

but wep banner is permanent so u could get it later too

[raw swift]

Seems pretty easy

[foggy ridge]

holy whel

[raw swift]

Not mine

[foggy ridge]

but yeah it should

[raw swift]

Somehow with that invest they only got 590k

[thorn creek]

Holy feesh

[crystal breach]

thats my plan bcs I got lucky with solacetune weapon and have 9 pity built from a 10 pull

[foggy ridge]

hmm

[rocky wedge]

better to just save till pyroath patch and get her stuff i would say, ignore the 70% rate up arrival banners and fate 80-100 pity banners

[raw swift]

They also said they swapped... Because lamia ran out of orbs?

[foggy ridge]

maybe not using ppc setup?

idk where this is exactly

if its glb or some other server

[crystal breach]

yeah I fell into that trap before, sht was so bad I had to make a new account 💀

[raw swift]

[foggy ridge]

that will do it

[rocky wedge]

ye it gets a lot of people since its normal for that kind of thing in other gacha games, meanwhile the main focus is the 100% banners

[raw swift]

[crystal breach]

I also have Luna oblivion so I will get her
sig eventually too, just not rn I think

[raw swift]

You get virtually no benefit from this in ppc

[crystal breach]

yup, learned that the hard way with a damn ember dupe

[foggy ridge]

yeah probably ask them to switch that set to ppc qte if thats what their karen is

however seeing the resos thats in it, idk if theyre willing to

[raw swift]

Also using cottie on selena

[wispy robin]

do you run cottie for gb teddy or nah..

[foggy ridge]

wtf

[crystal breach]

@rocky wedge ty for the help!

[rocky wedge]

no worries

[raw swift]

They also bought vera 10k bc skin in a solo cw team but I'm not going into that

[rocky wedge]

[raw swift]

Uhh skipping Hanying too i guess

It's just sad

[foggy ridge]

[lament yoke]

They seem happy

[foggy ridge]

dem cant help there then

[raw swift]

It's not like they're running low on pulls

They have 50,000bc

Wel 35k bc and 15k event pulls

[rocky wedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1276158258503094414/1343799905944338505/a7av4-nf2mz.gif

[wide prairie]

Ok finally it uploaded

[rocky wedge]

thats physical wz

[wide prairie]

No dark available

[rocky wedge]

i think there is, the score is just worse than ice's

its in duo map

[tacit sentinel]

It's worth to skip nanaknight until ish patch to get her from base selector?

[wide prairie]

There is?

[rocky wedge]

wait what rank are u in

[crystal breach]

btw after I get both Alisa and Wanshi should I get Alisa dupes first?

[wispy robin]

idk are you ready to lose you skulls with x3 speed

[rocky wedge]

u only have 3rd map in hero + legend

[mint jay]

So why not pull???

[tacit sentinel]

no..

[rocky wedge]

no, wanshi

u will need at least ss wanshi

[crystal breach]

[rocky wedge]

probably better to go ss3 since u wont have qu Dx

[wide prairie]

Leader squad

[rocky wedge]

oh thats why

[lament yoke]

DOUBLE DIVE LAMIA TECH!??

[crystal breach]

i will get her from selena patch selector, thats my plan

[foggy ridge]

is that a thing?

also eng jumpscare

[tacit sentinel]

since my plan of using ish selector reset for nanami is screwed, best other choice?

Hanying SS3? Selena SS3?

Pyro SS3?

[lament yoke]

Prolly not

[tacit sentinel]

leaning towards pyro ss3 cuz my wata is bricked

[vague nebula]

[mint jay]

I think it's either pyro or hanying

[foggy ridge]

pyro ss3 most likely

mostly for plasma

[vale raft]

Lucia: Pyroath

Skill - SSS

Fiery Goldburn Plumage

Level 1 - Unlocked at SS3

Base DMG of Basic Attack - Gala Ablaze increases by 100%. The first use of Basic Attack - Radiant Feather Storm after switching in grants 40 Signature Energy. After performing Signature Move - Auxiliary Precision Slash or Signature Move - Endless Eclipse, Base DMG of QTE - Haze Erasure in this battle increases by 1000%.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SSS

The first use of Lightspeed Rend - Flickering Sparks after switching in immediately obtains Radiance Engraving. The Base DMG increase effect of Radiance Engraving for Signature Move - Auxiliary Precision Slash and Signature Move - Endless Eclipse doubles. Obtains 6 additional Signature Energy each time Basic Attack - Gala Ablaze is performed. While in the Embers of Wildfire state, Lucia's Extra DMG Bonus increases by 100%.

[foggy ridge]

ew why did i use glb translation first

[wispy robin]

you just don't pull it at all

[rocky wedge]

ecto plasm

[foggy ridge]

that godamn qte buff is still so funny to me

[thorn creek]

Pyro

[vague nebula]

1k % dmg up on qte

[thorn creek]

I’ll just ignore ultima slash

[foggy ridge]

"aight fk it, you can now kill a wave with a qte" -john solon

[tacit sentinel]

qte management gameplay

[vague nebula]

[vague nebula]

always has been

[foggy ridge]

in fairness that sht would do wonders for my ice rn cuz i keep overkilling with wanshi

[wide prairie]

@raw swift what do u think? Where i m wrong?

[tacit sentinel]

now the SSS players have an even bigger advantage lol, as this new qte buffs are mostly SS3-SSS

[lament yoke]

DOUBLE DIVE LAMIA TECH!

@wide prairie https://youtu.be/RjXCht2JnYo?feature=shared

Watch this

[wide prairie]

But isn't her dive big dmg?

Why cancel it?

[lament yoke]

Who said cancel it

[tacit sentinel]

i am asumming you only cancel the animation, not the dmg

[lament yoke]

Oh windbell?

It wastes time prolly?

[tacit sentinel]

but i have gambling addiction

[carmine kindle]

In derived from matrix, what's the best way to get max recruit energy? My last 3 runs were only 2 out of 3 team members and I want the achievement for getting 12 characters to lvl 12

[lament yoke]

Actually idk

[tacit sentinel]

you only get RE at the end of each stage

just play the longest endings

[foggy ridge]

dive is situational. most of the time, you dont use it unless u know ur ult 2 will overkill

i think it leads to a slower overall run in wz

it aint got no timestop on it

[carmine kindle]

Bet, thanks, I always try to go for ending 6 but sometimes I forget the right stages and get ending 3

[tame egret]

can someone tell me what sets and resos S wanshi runs? wiki is on maint 🥹

[vale raft]

Wanshi: Lucid Dreamer <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:tank:1290614106520555571><:ice_element:1290613933106925638><:glaciation:1288090076001210398>

Main Tank Set

Usage

Main Tank/Sub-DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General Tank/Sub-DPS set

Memories

4x Liston
2x Einsteina

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

None

[tacit sentinel]

those

[pulsar viper]

What’s the fire team for wz if my Lee invests are bad

[tame egret]

oooo ty
is liston on slots 1 2 3 5?
or 4 5 6 2

[vale raft]

Minmax

Liston goes Top

ATK : 132
DEF : 223
CRIT : 66
HP : 1491

Einsteina goes Bottom

ATK : 132
DEF : 219
CRIT: 66
HP : 1521

[tame egret]

tysm

[tacit sentinel]

if you get wanshi sig then u use 4 chen jiyuan instead of einsteina

[foggy ridge]

probably another amp?

[tame egret]

do u mean 2 chen jiyuan

[pulsar viper]

Oh ok ok thanks just making sure

[tacit sentinel]

2 + harmonization

[tame egret]

ah

[foggy ridge]

im just mad guessing ngl

[tame egret]

[normal sierra]

it's a ppc tech
dive activates qtes, and that's the thing we need for a dive cancel kill there, not the dive dmg itself
therefore we cancel it to save 2s on the kill

[wide prairie]

I see

[pulsar viper]

how would i rotate my characters if im using 2 amps, i should just switch from epitaph to liv and rinse and repeat?

[foggy ridge]

probably

[pulsar viper]

Nice thanks

[foggy ridge]

im not sure if liv has a long enough rotation to switch back to wata but i know wata definitely has with shakes setup

[knotty umbra]

which would u guys pick?

[foggy ridge]

honestly just experiment and see

[foggy ridge]

xxi

[knotty umbra]

tysm

[vale raft]

Minmax

Condelina goes Top

ATK : 132
DEF : 223
CRIT : 67
HP : 1461

Heisen goes Bottom

ATK : 134
DEF : 219
CRIT: 66
HP : 1491

[flint pulsar]

Is Wanshi LD better in a Luna Oblivion team than Epitaph?

[foggy ridge]

again just mad guessing im not dalao enough to give a concrete answer so just take my words as reference, not a hard answer

[cold walrus]

higher rank wanshi provides higher shred, so wanshi is better if his rank is higher than wata's

[flint pulsar]

SS Epi vs SS3 LD?

[cold walrus]

wanshi is better

[flint pulsar]

Thanks.

[crystal breach]

do dorm stats matter or can I ignore that

[pulsar viper]

No worries I appreciate the response so I have a general idea till the pgr malders come in

[foggy ridge]

actually whats ur hyperreal invest? is he ss?

cuz i think he will work fine at ss

[pulsar viper]

Yea he is ss with his weapon but he is r0 and h0

Is he still better than daren with sig who is sss r2 h1

[stable harbor]

Does anyone know if there’s a guide for Derived from matrix endings? Grayravens only has 3 endings but the game mode has more

[foggy ridge]

honestly if you get him harmo and put shakes on him, he might be much better than just offele amp/tank

yes his damage is not as good as watas, but ur fire team will overall flow way smoother

[thorn creek]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ves3NSyv1TY031TwJ2SEHpe63c376khDNdRu53XgV3g/edit

[pulsar viper]

Ok thanks

[flint pulsar]

IDK why I do even care. xD

[foggy ridge]

also doesnt leave ur empy absolutely deadweight since she cant do her rotations properly

but again, just experiment and see first before harmoing hyper

we getting pyroath soon

just something to consider

[candid spoke]

Liv qte bot Era

[foggy ridge]

kuro is unfortunately a stingy mfer when it comes to harmo mats

[pulsar viper]

Yeah I don’t even think it’s worth harmonizing since she is coming out in a month

[pulsar viper]

Wdym by this

[zenith thorn]

doesn't matter

[still bolt]

When are we getting new cr stages?

[sleek basin]

Ss0 hyper is not worth harmo

[foggy ridge]

from my experience, you will be basic attacking a lot just to fill up her damn core without wasting a ping

[still bolt]

Only thing in the dorms you should care about are commissions

[foggy ridge]

which is a time waste ofc

[pulsar viper]

Ohhh

I just replayed her character tutorial to understand her more

[foggy ridge]

her leap helps a ton if u got that

[pulsar viper]

So I can just basic attack instead of pinging is what you are saying

[pulsar viper]

Yeah she is

[foggy ridge]

if the core meter isnt filled when you swap in and you dont have spare pings, yeah you can basic attack to fill that bar

[sleek basin]

Why do you even want to do that now

[foggy ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-neutron-jimbo-hugh-neutron-jimmy-neutron-dad-mistakes-gif-27324077

[still bolt]

Mayyyybe when you don't have hyper and Wata runs out of gas

[pulsar viper]

I see that makes sense

[foggy ridge]

but like they said, its not recommened

unless its ur situation where ur not using hyper

[sleek basin]

I mean
If u have sig her core should be full
Or just one 3 ping

[pulsar viper]

So for fire team wz sss daren with sig r2 h1 > hyperlee ss with sig r0 h0?

[sleek basin]

Without sig, yeah, gl /peace

[pulsar viper]

Yeah she has sig

[foggy ridge]

ur mome

[zenith thorn]

wtf are you guys teaching

[sleek basin]

Idk

[zenith thorn]

actually yeah im not going to bother

[foggy ridge]

im too sick to think straight rn

[sleek basin]

I don't understand why u would do smth else from core on swap in now
Post leap

[stable harbor]

Thank u x

[dapper skiff]

Zaza smoking

[foggy ridge]

i have a habit of pinging too mcuh orbs in her first rot and rng kicks me in the balls in the 2nd rot to where i dont have enough for a full rot if i waste atleast a 2 ping

[sleek basin]

Just don't do full rot with wata

Also empy really needed dlt before

[foggy ridge]

even post leap?

[dapper skiff]

Someone said balls?

livWhat

[sleek basin]

Post leap idk

I switched dlt off long ago

[foggy ridge]

your balls specifically

[dapper skiff]

What are we gonna do today with it

[foggy ridge]

but yeah im on pure fkin pain im probably spouting absolute bullsht

[shy jackal]

balls?

[foggy ridge]

we can make a dandandan plotline with it

[shy jackal]

[dapper skiff]

Your cooking is so raw, it is considered as still alive 🗣️🗣️

[foggy ridge]

i never watched nor read the series

[shy jackal]

it's dandadan smh

uncultured swi-

[foggy ridge]

my bad weeb

[dapper skiff]

dandandan

[foggy ridge]

fkin hell why does weeb sound like a straight slur now

[dapper skiff]

Cuz Crimson weeb

(she deserves it)

[foggy ridge]

(x2)

[shy jackal]

(x3)

[foggy ridge]

alright time to head off before i say something i regret

brick more people for me

[peak halo]

so i got skill issued on ice and not thinked, how i able to do better(im facing a bear wave)
but i wanna thet 10m
fire is 222 021 011 shake wata

phys 223 212 111 (bricked by ca)
i want to know a expected max score?

[shell orchid]

hello, what is Hanying Solacetune rotation for S rank?

Spider 2B guide have her at SS rank, and her rotationg go as follow

switch in, 6 red orb, green orb, ult, 3 tap ult, hold ult, repeat

[dapper skiff]

Record

[shell orchid]

but when i try it, i cant get enough signature energy to hold ult

[dapper skiff]

Dunno what's wrong until I see it

[peak halo]

which?

[dapper skiff]

Record your warzone run for me to point out a possible improvement point

[shy jackal]

s rank characters pretty much don't exist

[peak halo]

ok so all

[shy jackal]

every unit needs ss at minimum

they are unplayable at base

[dapper skiff]

Either YouTube or streamable, both good

[shy jackal]

and also, don't follow spider 2b

his guides often contain pretty egregious misinfo

[dapper skiff]

Ofc you will

Try this rotation

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1342627644532981834/S_Hanying_Rotation.mp4?ex=67bba46f&is=67ba52ef&hm=c61d43c39e1a12e74b539ea4e06d4896e769c33608076e295a2b8cd42d6c3b93&

[nova forum]

[shell orchid]

so, just full basic attack, 3 blue orb ping, tap ult 3 time and hold ult?

[dapper skiff]

Yes

U need the 3p for qte activation

Cuz until S5, u wouldn't able to active qte for buff

[shell orchid]

i think my alisa have that

the qte memory

[dapper skiff]

Needs S5 on Hanying

[shy jackal]

surprised that one exists tbh

[marsh ridge]

its fine if i grab this guy instead of oblivion right? pulling for lucia next so i want her teamate

[dapper skiff]

You will be missing a lot getting him instead

You can also use budget alternative for pyroath teammate when she's debuting

[marsh ridge]

whos the budget teamates

[shell orchid]

Watanabe is fun, so there is that

[dapper skiff]

Bridget Ardeo

Can use Liv Lux or alisa echo as support memories holder to constantly give your pyroath buff

[frozen creek]

Better off getting 2 teams semi decent than going all in one team

[shy jackal]

nanami startrail can apparently serve as a sub too, but not as good as actual wata because she isn't fire

[marsh ridge]

theres a selector reset in this game right? is it when ishmael comes out?

[shy jackal]

yes

on the selena pianissimo patch, we're also getting a free selector that goes up to qu shukra

[marsh ridge]

might jsut grab watanabe when it resets i guess then

[broken elk]

saving blue tickets left and right 🙏

[frozen creek]

I have 12k blues and 20 pity and I’m waiting patiently to spend them

Don’t wanna get terb jump scare again

[visual topaz]

Amen

💀

[peak halo]

lul
@dapper skiff xd

[dapper skiff]

[wispy robin]

i love cw weather malding
roll wrong orb color = restart
and all this for 2k score gain

[visual topaz]

that's why you skip lightning wz

[dapper skiff]

[wispy robin]

i def could kill 27 wave
time to restart for another 5 hrs

[dapper skiff]

Being confident I see

I'd say Friday night

[wispy robin]

tf wrong with this bug
core bars randomly dissapearing on all chars

[sly aurora]

i just unlocked CUBs, anything super important i should know about those?

[meager iris]

hanying sucks

[visual topaz]

das hero

[wispy robin]

only lvl 2 bottom skills
don't bother lvling active skill

[meager iris]

still cooking

[visual topaz]

now i have to pull the same stunt on my own acc in legend

[wispy robin]

lvling cub itself also not worth

[meager iris]

why literally everything can ruin her rotation

it sucks

[sly aurora]

noted, thnks

[visual topaz]

tap ult 1x too much before hold ult = > you lose matrix
lightning strike => your matrix procs too early so the pipa cannot go full gauge without expanding 3 blue or 6 blue = you can't ping yellow for next rot

actually when i was clueless i did that 6.4m the more i malded the less i scored

[meager iris]

lightning is literally every 0.1 seconds

[visual topaz]

💀

[meager iris]

and also there is this

[wispy robin]

u gotta have fun with ion
skip red orb animation 0.1sec earlier than needed = run ruined

[meager iris]

🤡

[visual topaz]

ow yeah

she has targetting issues with ult

can miss with spawning wave

[carmine reef]

hanying sux

[visual topaz]

i have rots where i can go w7/8 wwith 1st rot and sometimes where i can't even get past w3

[meager iris]

physical cannot be fixed

[frozen creek]

That happened to me in first rot 90% of the time

[carmine reef]

i just want to play ice wz forever

[frozen creek]

[visual topaz]

i can't play ice

[carmine reef]

gimme

[meager iris]

you still with homeless invest?

[carmine reef]

what is homeless invest to you, anything below sss r3?

[frozen creek]

Two s+ whels talking about homeless invest

[frozen creek]

Ewlao has sss9 = homeless

[meager iris]

last time I saw he had 4 star weapon

here you go

[carmine reef]

sss cub

[frozen creek]

[meager iris]

just use the whel ticket to get his weapon wtf

[carmine reef]

sss wanshi sss cub and 4* wep
ur def switchin dis sht just for the screenshot

[frozen creek]

He also has inf wep tix

[cold walrus]

where are your bc dalao

[visual topaz]

shukra kaleido wanshi all SSS0 SSS Cubs but wanshi no sig

this is so tragic

[carmine reef]

nah u r just not a real person

[frozen creek]

[carmine reef]

[frozen creek]

But actually damage below s+ is painful to look at

[meager iris]

why waste pulls

[visual fable]

2 queistions. can SS no pet with sig get 1.8m on ppc. and how do i get leap chips wihtout war zone points

[carmine reef]

gonna have to be more specific, which boss you mean, and what total team invest, but the answer is probably yes

[frozen creek]

First part too vague
Second part roguelike modes

Cursed waves and derived give leap mats

[visual topaz]

otherwise trade voucher shop

[carmine reef]

ew telling newbies to get leap mats with vouchers aint no way

[cold walrus]

btw when did new roguelike mod was introduce in cn?

[visual fable]

dark shakespear and lilith. only unit i don't have is watata

[carmine reef]

the latest one that cn has is the arctic whatever thing which we are getting soon

[visual topaz]

tundra

🤓

[carmine reef]

should be easy for you

[visual topaz]

0

[carmine reef]

mado and shark should be like easy 620 ish

[visual topaz]

wait zain u in my main acc bracket

[frozen creek]

I didn’t see you there

[frozen creek]

Let me check

[carmine reef]

ss+sig lamia even with a ranks should probably be able to 580 lilith, and even if you don't you have plenty of leeway from the other 2

[foggy ridge]

this should be good for madora right?

[frozen creek]

Legend too much for me

[frozen creek]

As long as you getting all the skulls it’s enough

[meager iris]

@frozen creek look at this whel

[frozen creek]

His phys and fire scored are basically my ice score

Your score is probably the same

You and your 3s3

[meager iris]

nah I'm skill issue

and f2p

[visual fable]

do i need pain cage specific builds?

[frozen creek]

What’s your total score

[foggy ridge]

wanshi for ice kills go super hard ngl

[meager iris]

2 mill

[carmine reef]

ofc

[frozen creek]

[frozen creek]

Wtff.

20 mil

[foggy ridge]

dyslexia hitting hard

[meager iris]

[foggy ridge]

[frozen creek]

I can’t even check hero but there’s probably somebody there with 20m too

[meager iris]

hopefully I can fix phys

[foggy ridge]

no one still beating my score wtf

[meager iris]

yeah

[foggy ridge]

dudes below me have sss for all their ice team

[meager iris]

but who is that never saw his name before

[frozen creek]

I can improve all my scores by like 500k but I can’t be bothered

Got tired of wanshi not reloading

And my qu overkilling 1hp wave

[foggy ridge]

i actually dont know how to improve my phys ngl LMAO

[frozen creek]

And then phys I keep getting ult2 missing and accidentally pressing ult once more than necessary

[foggy ridge]

current score with 2.12.12

[meager iris]

I don't know if I'm playing it correctly or not in the first place

[visual topaz]

says i'm whel and proceeds to show 20M

[frozen creek]

[foggy ridge]

no no its 2m see?

[meager iris]

this is 2 million

[frozen creek]

20m and not playing correctly

[meager iris]

[frozen creek]

🐳 final form

[cold walrus]

20m is score of the most f2p player

[meager iris]

phys was so bad tbh

[foggy ridge]

should i be dodge cancelling with balter?

[frozen creek]

Can’t wait to get rid of Lee

[meager iris]

idk about fire but this score was my onetap

[frozen creek]

Orbs? Yeah if you don’t need the damage

[meager iris]

ice I gave lot of time

[frozen creek]

It’s situational but most the time yeah

I keep making my Alisa rot last too long because I fail to cancel one dodge

I never spent so much time on wz as much as this week

I sat down for over an hour

[visual topaz]

a fellow friend

[meager iris]

eu is cooking

[frozen creek]

It’s your 2nd account same pfp

[meager iris]

huh

I barely have time to mald in my account

[frozen creek]

If you have barely enough time I don’t have enough time to even login

But that’s cause I’m very very busy building farms in Minecraft

[meager iris]

[frozen creek]

I forgot onslaught started

[visual topaz]

bro w24 another rosebald

this is so tragic

whatever hits triggers hanying's matrix

[meager iris]

noooo

[visual topaz]

i need a better routing

[foggy ridge]

christ i actually dont know if im playing phys right

i should not be getting close to 3m with ss3 hanying

[empty cargo]

Ice: All R1 SS Qu SSS Wanshi SS Ayla
Phys: All R1 SS Han SS3 Balter SS Alisa
Fire: All R1 SS Wata SS Hyper SS Empy
What can I improve on massively to get more score?

[foggy ridge]

desperate times calls for desperate measures i still dont have sss alisa

[meager iris]

wth

[foggy ridge]

jfc

[keen meteor]

Ice and phys both
U can do way better
No idea about fire cs my fire is cooked

[visual topaz]

okay w24 can be killed i think

18 HP bar left rosebald

feels like he has as much health as Hell Skych

but with more resistance

[empty cargo]

I did Hanying 1 Balter 3 and repeat rot it's probably horrible but idk any tech on hanying
On ice I did the exact same rot as in the pin

So idk how I could do much better ok ice but on phys I did very poorly for sure

[keen meteor]

For ref i have the same ice as u except my wanshi is ss3 and ayla is r0 i got 4.49m with that
For phys same team except ss balter and r0 ayla i got 2.71m

[empty cargo]

😭 yeah I'm also slow so theres that but I still have rotation knowledge issues

[frozen creek]

You can easily get 6m ICE and at least 3m phys and fire

[keen meteor]

Okay for phys do 2 han > 1 balter > 1 alisa rot and repeat. Make han has no downtime meaning swap her on field as soon as the swap timer is off. She does the most dmg

[frozen creek]

There’s something seriously wrong with the ice rot

[keen meteor]

For ice try tripple rotation on wanshi into double full stack ults Qu and repeat. Give wanshi more field time cs he is SSS as opposed to ur SS qu

[foggy ridge]

easily 6m my ass 😭

[keen meteor]

You should see an improvement with just these changes

[empty cargo]

Aham can you send me a video on that wanshi tech

[keen meteor]

Yeah easily is a stretch but i have seen 5.65m with 232 111 111

[foggy ridge]

i have 5.6 with 233 112 111

[empty cargo]

If I can get like a million more overall I retain tbh

[keen meteor]

Nah u should be higher
Thats dazzal’s invest and he got 6.5 with that

[foggy ridge]

yeah idk how tf he got there

[keen meteor]

He sent his run here
Copy his homework

[empty cargo]

First are the the amount of S second is Reso third is cub S amount?

[raw swift]

Third is harmony

1-yes 0-no

[stable harbor]

Boss, is there one for the other roguelite?

[wispy robin]

https://grayravens.com/wiki/Alternative_Interpretation/Cursed_Waves

[keen meteor]

Yeah lemme find it

@empty cargo

[wispy robin]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1GczPYTENe?t=3.1 might as well start learning from the best of the best

[vague nebula]

i used this for achievements and endings
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AZG9V0J0It5TcKRN1aPYTicje-Cb0gjA2tPR-SYH9H4/edit?usp=sharing

[empty cargo]

Ty

[empty cargo]

Yeah I saw this and I just gave up in the first 10 seconds

My Hero retaining ahh won't do that

Okay so I shouldnt be doing the old solo qu rot and do 2 3 stack ones instead and for Wanshi it's spam red only 1 cylinder hold 1 cylinder spam red full

[stable harbor]

Awesome, thank u!

[empty cargo]

Or idk what's it called

[wispy robin]

@distant wren nanami mald is real
took 4hrs to roll this rng

[outer willow]

when's a new character releases

[raw swift]

Next patch

[outer willow]

whats the usual date

[vale raft]

Current Roadmap (as of Mar 05th 2025)

[raw swift]

Just a prediction, it'll be somewhere around these dates

[thorn creek]

Every 6 weeks

[raw swift]

Oh I did not know that either

[shy jackal]

where tf do I get 2218 vouchers

I think I've done everything I could that gives vouchers besides all the strongholds and I need 3 more wanshi shards for 3s

[stable harbor]

Do u guys think DMC collab chars will be S class? Or at least half of them?

[shy jackal]

reset is so far away

[thorn creek]

git gud in wz

[raw swift]

Yeah atleast Dante and Vergil will (hopefully)

[shy jackal]

aughhhhhh

[raw swift]

I think the emo kid in dmc 5 might become an A rank

[shy jackal]

...what

tf did you call V?

[thorn creek]

Very unlikely bc having limited units be part of meta is terrible for this game

[raw swift]

I'm terribly sorry for not knowing anybody else besides Dante and Vergil

[stable harbor]

But we did have 3 S collab units before tho?

So I don’t think it’s unlikely

[shy jackal]

which were the worst decisions ever made

[raw swift]

Because they got meta?

[stable harbor]

You weren’t wrong tho haha, he’s an emo kid

[thorn creek]

yes and bc of them, kuro learned their lesson and are making future collab units A ranks

[mint jay]

TIme for round 2, eh?

[shy jackal]

wait a minute

[raw swift]

Ok guess I'm pulling only 1 copy

[shy jackal]

oh my god cursed waves and dfm my saviors

holy hell 250 vouchers for each level that I reach one

[stable harbor]

What’s happened with those ones? Ppl weren’t happy?

[shy jackal]

3s wanshi I'M COMING

HRHHHRHRFFFFFF

[thorn creek]

yeah and making them limited and meta for physical made lots of old and new fans suffer

[raw swift]

That sucks man but understandably so

[thorn creek]

bc the whole point of a collab is to bring more ppl towards a game and if the outcome wasn't enjoyable for everyone, obv most ppl will complain and likely leave the game

that's why BRS was A rank instead of S

[raw swift]

I didnt think it could've got that bad that people will leave the game over 2-3 units

[stable harbor]

True but then again there was only one collab with A rank since then so we shall see

[raw swift]

I'm hoping they are S because cmon it's Dante and Vergil

[thorn creek]

If the units are dominating a certain element and are limited, it essentially gatekeeps ppl from playing that element if they don't have that specific unit

[shy jackal]

it was really bad

you needed everyone from nier, which meant 3 s ranks to pull

not only that, you had to get them to sss

you had to run them all together otherwise you wouldn't get a team bonus

[stable harbor]

I’m still gonna sit on my bc until then. (Swipe for at least one copy of all the new S ranks until then tho)

[raw swift]

Yeah I get that :((

[stable harbor]

That’s just excessive. I reckon they could do S collab units but without the team bonus thing.

[mint jay]

basically unis, but worse

[raw swift]

They can and should!

[wispy robin]

ahhhh... kozakashii...

[nova forum]

Watch them be uniframes

[mint jay]

https://tenor.com/view/akira-leave-me-alone-leave-me-alone-meme-gif-6420351794930725971

[thorn creek]

Yeah it's essentially a loss for everyone which is why collab units will be likely only A ranks or heavily nerfed S ranks that doesn't become meta

[nova forum]

The funny part is people would complain if they're not meta

[raw swift]

Whatever the case, I'm pulling atleast the 2 main units

[mint jay]

people would complain either way

[thorn creek]

Especially with a game that essentially requires you to pull every upcoming S ranks, having limited meta units is devastating for players who focus more on collabs, esp F2Ps

[nova forum]

F2p don't have choice either way

[thorn creek]

I complain every day

[stable harbor]

Gotta swipe swipe swipe haha

[woven haven]

if anything them being A rank is better though
S rank is just worse

[nova forum]

Even if they do then it's either go as collector or suffer fighting meta slaves

[thorn creek]

DMC Uniframes

[wispy robin]

ppl expect kuro would be nice and won't repeat nier
meanwhile kuro: tried with brs, saw that it barely profited them anything and learned from their mistakes on how to milk more out of it

[thorn creek]

make meta in the more irrelevant parts of the game

[stable harbor]

Tbh that sounds much more likely

It’s the small percentage of ppl who bring the most profit, and they would be happy to pull

[nova forum]

Didn't get much profit and now they're tryna to at least manage the low sale with synchro

[woven haven]

just cuz dmc is “strong” doesn’t mean they have to be S rank
S rank in pgr vs A ranks doesn’t even matter half the time

Lumi and Alisa get S rank while Jeta gets A

[nova forum]

Devs listened

[thorn creek]

DMC collab is eos patch

it is what it is

[woven haven]

and its not like S/A rank is even story tied
Wanshi/Hanying S ranks were sidestories
Teddy A rank was main story

[wispy robin]

dmc "story" in pgr world going to be something else

[nova forum]

I saw a comment that said they should be S rank (and meta) cuz in lore they're strong

[stable harbor]

I’m sitting on 40k bcs for the collab so far anyway, won’t spend any until then

[wispy robin]

what lore
theres no demon lore in pgr

they might as well die 1 sec in cause no punishing immunity

[woven haven]

yeah don’t tell them that lore strength doesn’t do anything with meta

look at ishmael

[shy jackal]

[woven haven]

actual fraud level

[keen meteor]

Lemme know how it goes

[keen meteor]

U can optimise wanshi a lot
But yeah start with this and see how it goes

[thorn creek]

b.bb.but galaxy booba

[wispy robin]

wdym
cw is actually lore accurate now

[silver shard]

Anyone know how to make this dot go away

[wispy robin]

buy furni

[silver shard]

Bought all of it, all the gifts too

[keen meteor]

They wont be most likely

[nova forum]

S rank but uniframes

[livid lark]

cn will complain 100%

[delicate isle]

it stays there until the end of synch

[turbid bridge]

It’s bugged

[livid lark]

cant wait for the fireworks

[thorn creek]

I’ll have S+ feesh by then

[livid lark]

if game has to go into eos, i would rather it do it with a bang or with style

[wispy robin]

ok i def get better score with 2dw 2ein qu

[livid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/burnice-zzz-zenless-zone-zero-zzz-burnice-burnice-dance-gif-11379222240900404037

[thorn creek]

Actually?

[wispy robin]

4chen barely managing to reach 29

[shadow rapids]

Between LD Wanshis 2 ultimates, the one where he fires a bullet through a screen and the one where he slams down the cube thingy, which one is doing the most damage in rotation?

[livid lark]

screen

with cub and 12 red screen ult that number becomes even bigger

[sinful anvil]

321 points away from chief's measure

[turbid bridge]

Rip

[limber mirage]

what is observer class?

[sinful anvil]

nihil on crack

[livid lark]

thats the observer clas

[sinful anvil]

what's the tldr

[thorn creek]

Basically she turn to any element qte bot tank/amp based on the team setup

[livid lark]

requires another team member that is amp or tank

[sinful anvil]

inb4 the answer is: there is no tldr

[livid lark]

if theres only attackers in the team or phys units she cant function

[raw swift]

So basically she goes all teams? If setup is right

[livid lark]

thats the tldr

[visual topaz]

holy smoke

[livid lark]

wrong

[visual topaz]

mommy asks too much

[shadow rapids]

Thankies

[livid lark]

if not void she cant function onfield

[raw swift]

Need luna then

[thorn creek]

She does. Doesn’t mean she should

[livid lark]

and if she's on other element teams she will be qte bot at best

[raw swift]

Okay got it

[livid lark]

for ppc it's probably fine but not for warzone

[thorn creek]

Legit u can’t onfield her cuz she’s still void at base

If u put her onfield with ice team for example, she’ll only do void dmg onfield

[raw swift]

iirc with the addition of parhelion we have only 2 void characters yes?

[thorn creek]

Only her qte is changed

[wispy robin]

still have to optimize ish rot in fire to get as much of scratch dmg as possible
her ult actually can still finish the wave

[thorn creek]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565860804323311638/1302280036283449427/1113698622488465438.gif

[visual topaz]

[thorn creek]

Omg the emotes are finally updated

[cunning bridge]

For low spender what should i buy beside monthly?

[tired orbit]

yk i see new affixes tables and my head hurts its so complicated

[livid lark]

bp

[thorn creek]

Battle pass is second best

[livid lark]

uh... just see them as separate elements with different conditions

an easier infographic to look at

[nova forum]

Is off ele Ishmael best used as support instead of tank

[livid lark]

depends i think

[thorn creek]

NOW WHERES LAMIA EMOTES AND STICKERS

I NEEEEEEEEED THEM

[limber mirage]

so only her shred/buff will change for qte?

[livid lark]

ya

[thorn creek]

YEP

[limber mirage]

not dmg?

[livid lark]

as is expected of nihil

[thorn creek]

Dmg is still void

[tired orbit]

🐟

[thorn creek]

So she’ll be the cope replacement

[limber mirage]

[river nymph]

what happened to the new hanying emojis?

[thorn creek]

The cook one?

[river nymph]

ye

[thorn creek]

Oh yeah Wudahell

[visual topaz]

she can cook

[river nymph]

oh they made them stickers

[thorn creek]

I’m guessing they switched to sticker cuz nitro

Honestly good change

[turbid bridge]

I can use it still

[thorn creek]

Better than kuro changes