#📨・meta-help
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i'll combust you

@livid lark maybe you should make bot command with all the fan made terms and their official tl meanings 🐴
who or what tf is ion
physical damage does not follow the same system as elemental damage and is therefore not counted as an element
“Ultima slash” 🤓🤓
Who the whel
They have the coating before its free

🐳
plasma beam is cringe so Im calling it ion as how we did before Kuro changed it
dam bro is there a list with all the pgr terms somewhere? 😆
as the other person said it's global tl is plasma beam, but it's part of a secondary type of elements called "effects", people here usually call it affix too and have other names based on fan tl such as ion
Same with true slash
pgr dictionary
wtff misinfo

is this correct?
There are a billion and probably a new one everyday
the lower reso is core passive
thanks
Guys Sigless Wanshi is just a QTE bot for Qu right?
Then switch to Patton when you get her to SS rank
no
no??
sigless wanshi can be fielded still
i haven't got level 80 yet, when i do i will harmonise it and give her patton
Cuz of alisa
ty
qu solo isnt better than wanshi five star
Oh wow alright that’s crazy progress
I didn’t even see
also , is this enough for current warzone? or should i go for more
it's pretty irrelevent for u rn, it's more end game stuff
thanks man, tbh people here helped me a lot
Way more than enough
Aslong as you get promoted you good
alright
Look at the others score
ah my question wasn't for u. idc who u like or dislike tbh. u do u man 
should have tagged the guy who said u can replace all amps except alisa with ishmael
but Alisa's good with selena capriccio yes?
I mean, the no2 guy is like 2.5x lower score...
if you are in the promotion zone you are good 
selena is useless, you use teddy instead and then replace her with lilith
i looked at their score , i think there are still 5 days left so i was just wondering
?
Man why are you in vanguard
he's a newbie
he is new
Yeah even then you’d be miles ahead and promote anyways
Oh I was gonna say let the new players get the top
Below lvl 80
oh wait mb I meant pianissimo 💀
i started a few weeks ago
Yeah
Yeah they just told me
ye alisa pianissimo and hanying
meta physical team
ill gatekeep your warzone
I wanna pull qu but I have no bc because I'm saving for pryoath UGHHHH MY BRAIN HURTSSS
Alisa: pianissimo my favorite frame fr

finalllyyyyy wanshi did not drop the reload
It’s not like I’m retaining anyways 
you will get free qu in selena patch
LETS GOO
and its not gonna become cooked in a month like my lighting team right?
Whell
i used kamui+hanying+any healer in the crit dmg stage. will teddy be better instead of kamui bastion?
I need baby feral then
imagine they used gr web tl.
electroconvergence 
free feral in ish patch
okay but a whel who malded long hours for this cause im skill issued and need to improve
OH MG GOD
Dang
nah since hanying is released on global rn and selena is the current patch on cn so they will last a while
I NEED LAMIA?
Lilith better
Selena be taking a whole ass year
Who dat
june
Hi babes
It's still a year for me
Free anp in c
Ph purple clown yes yes
Does doing the dark wz add to my ice wz score
not worth getting lami atp
never pull scam banners save all your bc and pull new units only
no
No
No I'm just saying that time goes very slow for me AND I NEED SELENA NOW
time to install cn
I'll just not do it ig

Nah brick ur acc by pulling coating like me
no it picks your highest out of the two and thats whats gonna count overall
Jus wait for june or july
I'll just keep my ice score
Yep yep thankies now I'm gonna be broke after pryoath patch because I'm gonna try and get crimson weave yakuza very YUMMY coating (I'm not lesbian)
better pull coating than lamia
at least u get usb 🐴
hanying sucks
Can't bother with dark 
Fr
no bloom 
she looks so damn good but plays so damn bad
No your just gay
hanying vs alpha 1vs1 who wins?
Hanging fr op bro damage is 800k LMAO
Depends if lore or ingame 
Me
don't you love bricking runs with one mistake
alpha is milee better
I thought hanying's rot was straightforward
ok eins>guin in any situation where eins isnt being held already wtf
it is
you're* first and foremost
Third time I will ask this question in hope someone knows. Which CUB is worth to SS?
no cub really
I'm a returning player , any tips what should i do for now aside from daily & event?
Hanying and Wanshi are first on the list
Your weeklies
Praying for mommy pryoath to come out already
Like wz, ppc
bro it makes no sense why they gave yellow a dodge just so you can trigger matirx at the erong time and BRICK YOUR ENTIRE ROTATION BC SOME FAT FRIK NAMED ROSEBLADE ON WAVE 12 DECIDES TO ATTACK YOU
wanshi
And some that refresh a bit later like clash reflection, norman war revival plan, etc
I mean I need to do something with that accumulating Ore.
bro im gping to crash out
maybe do the A rank cubs?
Thanks!

"hanying > get luna from standard > pull pyro and nana next patch > pull ish and selena after that and choose wata from standard banner reset and qu from selena patch selector
this way you will have all your meta teams mostly covered" would we agree this is a good plan for a new f2p acc?
as for s rank vubs you can ss whchever you feel like the most
i dont think there's any s cub that needs ss more than another
have you ever been stunned with wanshi before? 
Vubs
That's a big waste imo. A rank cubs are practically free by just pulling cubs eventually with free tickets.
I was just thinking that maybe some character would benefit from a little DMG boost from CUB, not sure which would be the most optimal to chose long term.
the lightning that decide to come every time you switch to him 
wanshi's cub affects 4 of his skills
None, use shards for more cubs
" whoops i pressed one extra red orb because hanying got the worst feedback of every character" tine to reset!
love getting jumped while stunned in wz
norman ores are made for that 
hanying getting trolled by matrix is so cringe
You can get more cubs via norman ores

Talking about Ores.
As long as you have 2-3 s rank cubs already
you cant get S rank cubs that you dont own
been missing this top lel emote 
norman ores are skulls for PPC
Kimika told me
is it worth to spend bc on cubs?
How so?
Nah
Not as F2P
you misunderstood what they said
ru gonna stick around with ur account or reroll?
well it's kind of correct, you craft a new cub and that cub gets fed into the one u own
ill reroll im giga bricked atp
my favorite psrt is alisa, how does she STILL have the same issue where soemtimes for no reason at all she just goes "i dont wanna use my core anymore" and drops it INSTANTLY
you cant get cub shards without first unlocking the cub
True.
you craft 3 dupe cubs with ores you own > scrap them > buy any you need in shop
But how are they skulls?
ores are not obtained anywhere except norman

Oh you mean like, comparing them.
Skulls convert to shards for characters, Ores convert to duplicate cubs that get converted to shards basically for cubs.
yes
is there anyone that NEEDS their cub?
takes 90 million ores to buy 3 or is it 9?
Ah yes, sorry. I misunderstood in the literal way.
every new s rank needs their cub
no but it gives a huge damage boost if you do
looks like physical didn't change 
30mil per cub copy
im praying selena isnt as copege 
Is SSS Wanshi + sig better than Ishmael SS with Sig as a void tank?
Should I just wait for Guaranteed S from Standard banner instead?
Dammit, I have almost every CUB in game.
I gave up the moment I saw how many sets she needs
but aether said... 
i would make a 30 min rant video on physical team if i coulr
im ordering my copium
Only important one missing would be S 21 CUB.
the cub pulling currency incomes come passively from Norman right?
rigid rotation curse
yes, don't pull on fate banners
if you have all cubs it's fine to spend ores to ss
prio main dps ones like lucia nana selena
yeah so 90 per 3 ez. 
how many norman is that 6 or 9? 
too much

I won't lmao, I just screenshot when I click the fate.
That's what I wanted to know.
Oops.
its been 70 days without a Matt video, I can’t stop shaking and I’m having severe mental breakdowns. I woke up today and immediately logged onto Youtube but all that greeted me was nothingness, 0 activity from Matt. I had a major panic attack but managed to calm down after a few hours. I am nothing without Matt's videos, it is my life and my everything. I don't think I can hold on for much longer, put a note on my grave when Matt uploads again
When is anniversary banner

u get 1 pull per norman rotation in normal times.
during sync its scaled to 2x or 3x depending on how many patches r running in sync on that version.
tldr real way to pet/cub tickets is tier 1 bp 
holy sh*t its literally a free 10 pull per bp I just looked
still not spending for now though
is it free if u r buying that tier with money? 30 rc btw
6$ pack is 34 rc
Ngl my plan was to stay f2p too but then i saw how insane the synch BP value is and it has helped progress the account tremendously in less than 10 days
The 30rc one?
Do we get any free VFX skins in the future? I forgor
yeah ig ur right im stupid 💀
oh thats spare change tbh
Which is better to level up?
All of them, the middle one gives a ton of cub tix and the bottom one gives a fk ton vouchers in top of all the other resources
nah last one is the current one iirc
Greatest PGR sales man
S0 Vera Garnet fully leaped with 5 star weapon vs bridget ardeo SSS+ which one is better Nihil team?
Bro's paid by each text
I have been since I started in Qu Pavo patch. I have endured.
https://huaxu.app/na/players/17139794/characters
Can someone help me plan what to pull? I have the selector thats resetting on Ismael patch and not sure who to pick
Explore the 46 characters of Vera Magus from the North America server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
definitely not getting that bp in my current account btw 🧱
but will you manage to endure not buying feral bp though
during sync the value is half or 1/3rd of original value btw cus u need to buy 2x or 3x to get what u would get in normal times
I wish buying the last bp unlocked the one in the middle too
wait what why
Feral BP? Some info I should know? Global player BTW.
ehh?? nah why would u be stupid? u were happy with the value so u got too excited there thats probably the explanation
Stupid mf
Ofc it's peter saying that
you get this (and 75 harmo bottles and millions of all kinds of mats on top of it) for just 68rc
still kinda weird to say "free" when its paid ngl
ok peter
peter u r legally ret@rded
Are those purchased separately
Who else but quagmire
on the left is free on right is paid
Holy... 500 skulls?
Worth 68 Rc the right one?
Damn.
ah i see. 
Uh ur pretty much set on this one. Prolly make pyro to ss3 if you lack the funds?
wait that bp gives skulls?
very odd way to look at it, i get ur point tho but the total opposite is also true for someone eager to catch up and build meta teams as quick as possible
oh
Pyro?
eins doesnt work on wanshi cause his dmg cycle isnt 3 ping reliant
one time deal during ish patch (it's permanent tho)
Wouldnt the selector expire before she's on standard banner?
Skippable
btw Wata skin can be bought only as direct purchase or can u also buy with RC? @wispy robin
Hello Ballard I am coming for you.
Just get her in basic banner selector
it's rc only for glb
thats actually amazing! can work towars spending goals then
imagine a normal patch u bought a pet bp u got your 10 pull
next patch u do the same and now u have 20 pull total
during sync 2 patches r running in 1 sync patch. now if u buy 1 u get 10 pull so u actually bought 1 bp in 2 patches. that is how its half value. to reach equal value buy twice.
don't forget about spending event next patch tho

Wait you still got the blue banner selector?
Yes
The one that gives u event rnd tickets
next patch spending event gives up to 500 skulls
how much do I need to spend
wtf
why would you want to spend more time with lee
How much is it again? 128 rc like before?

Makes sense, but is not much time either.
is the Wata skin going to be permanent ? if not, i really hope it aligns with the spending event
lmao
better skip ish and get her from standard reset
you will suffer in ppc a lot cause of new boss without pyro
Whel
tbh the value is still the same on paper cus price is same. its the effective value that puts u down but still better than nothing ngl.
don't think these kinda of skins are permanent
No
i mean since I never played before synch(only played for 1 day a year ago then quit) so i cant quite grasp the value and time of a bp on a
normal patch, plus Im just trying to get good meta teams as fast as possible so I dont really think its that big of a deal
I forgot to select last time and ended up with Nanami pulse of all units
Then I should make this decision based on my BC balance.
the reset on her patch?
when is hellsing wata skin dropping?
wait those still x3 lmao
what reso
Hmmm, nah cuz new Nanami will come out alongside with Yata, so she will be in the blue banner I believe
usb
Shards are still 60 too
Technically next to that one I think?
yeah I saw that
ye next patch is the last patch you can use your standard before reset
looks like they forgot all shops
when is this dropping
yeah 
wth
i already use mine on wata
next patch
iza too rich
buy leap mats then
how much?
Who to pick from the current list?
168 rc iirc
voucher shop still 60 shard 
what is the cap?
is there any S-rank selector coming soon?
i would say wait till next patch before choosing
there is a possibility pyroath will be added there
dunno
UGHUHHUHUHGUHHUGH
I mean wz currency
but now ik wz influence is capped at 99999
while she's on banner?
same as red tickets
Wait wait, standard resets in the same patch she releases so I can grab her right away from standard? Or I need to wait next patch after Pyroath?
Next patch is a spending event for 500 skulls = 128RC am I correct
base banner selection reset in ishmael patch
s selector pack in pianissimo patch
they combining nana patch together, and she was available on standard banner during nana patch
so it's possible they will just let it be the same way
iza is eu's top whael
"pull hanying > get luna from standard > pull pyro and nana next patch > pull ish and selena after that and choose wata from standard banner reset and qu from selena patch selector." I think Imma just stick with this plan on a new account, cuz mine is already bricked, what do yall think?
yeah, they always peak
168 rc for skin, 28rc for weapon skin
do you still have your standard selector?
I already wasted it.
standard resets on ishmael patch, pyroath gets added on that patch as well probably atleast
i think itl be more expensive than that?
Wasted? On who
Didn't they do the same for Hanying and Wata this patch?
nop
wait really, thats actually cheaper than JP @wispy robin
I don't remember. xD
ok so you just skip ish during her debut and wait till nex patch to get her from reset
and Hanying isn't in the pool
How many weeks does it take to get S to SS from phantom cage store? Advanced ppc 80-120
new wanshi 🔥
Sounds good. But I will evaluate it, SS3 worth it?
hanying released this patch tho thats why
like 4-6?
Damn
What about ultimate?
oh yea i forgot it, jp has more expensive skins for 0 reason as well
it's called worst server for a reason 
I think its gonna be like $36 usd including tax(convert that to whatever your local currency is)
jp is scam server, hero bricked it
260 in a month on ultimate i think

Wouldn't that be the same for pyro?
actually idk the difference between advanced and ultimate but you should pick ultimate even if you don't have all the units
I just calculated, if you can get a total score that's more than 1750000 you can get 108, 120 if you hit 1800000 and it goes down the less you can get
Huh so even slower? S to SS is 500 right?
or am I missing something
yes
my condolences
anyone wanna do coop with me
Apparently you shouldn’t if you aren’t hitting 1.5m
260 in 4 weeks tbf
ss3 pyro is very worth, but getting all the sigs and cubs for new units is way more worth
if you f2p i wouldn't bother
so Pyro wouldn't be on standard next patch before the current selector expire
Outlier point bosses can give you those last skulls needed
Nah, imma... SSS Nanami 
which brings us back to my current problem, who to use this ticket on
this Wata skin is going to be the only skin i grab in any gacha game most likely
I am indeed, but I am pretty good in BC count. 24K.
I never heard that before, so specific
is there anywat to get S rank cubs apart from pulling?
only Wata is not SS currently
that's not much tbh, 1-2 lost 80/20 and it's all gone
I can't hit 1.5m but going for ultimate for my first time let me ss3 hanying and ss luna quicker than I would've in Advanced
same amount. haven't touch story stage since garnet aswell
Holy, that doesn't happen to me since forever.
I think it only happened to me with Luna weapon and Rosetta's.
I offrate for wanshi's weapon but I got it in the next 10 pull 
yea gotta be aware then since the longer it doesn't happen the higher chance it's about to happen sooner or later 🐴
Should I get Wata SS or get Lee Hyperreel?
Lee is dead
don't get hyperreal atp, pyroath is coming next
Sadly
man I loved hyperreal
Will be careful. Maybe a skip is worth.
I still pray everytime I pull for 6* weapon
Lee got powercrept to sub-dps when wata came out, and he's going to be fully dead when pyroath releases
the BRRRRRRRRR sound when you pop ult 1 
wata deals more dmg than lee?
I have been so lucky with my weapon pulls that is insane.
Wata to ss, just ignore hyper now cuz he will get replaced by pyro
A lot more

oui
Si
by a large margin
Да
はい
wth is this game, tanks are the real dpses, we got nanami startrail and epitaph as "tanks" apparently
and hanying, and wanshi
don't worry there was a time when amplifiers were dps 
Maybe in early days, idk
tank class is just "these guys shred resistance"
I haven't been around
I mean back in my day, even amplifiers used to be DPS at some point 
Being DPS isn't tied to being an attacker class
yeah but I thought the "shield your team" part was also relevant, at least thats what the game led me to believe 💀
And if you're a tank, expect to stay in the meta for quite a while
They are interchangeable actually, new gen tanks are better than past gen DPS, as new gen DPS are better than past gen tanks.
empy 
Even amplifiers can be DPS
small sample size but my weapon pulls thus far is legit 50/50 its so sad
nah this game is a just dont get hit type game, hp/shield is irrelevant almost
Ayla 
altho
Just dodge/parry/i-frame 
meh
Shield does nothing
shukra still needs dlt right?
Yes
yea
Shukra still does more DMG than Wanshi I think in same investment level right?
she orb hungry so yes

ok so shields and healing serve zero purpose got it 
Yes
need is a strong word
Well I mean healing for recovering hp not really, healing for activating buffs yes 
we only care about healing because it is just a roundabout way to trigger buffs
Some buffs require getting healed to activate
so other words just buffing with extra steps
if healing didnt buff, people wouldnt be using them
Some enemies in Norman can still hit hard so healing can fulfill its function in some cases.
citrom ur alive omg
It’s cuz of the score bands
recover hp to max out hp% part of your ppc score in case DoT hit u

but that's more of a side effect, than a goal
dont tell me healers/buffers are also powercreeping dpses too?
okay than i wont

usually no
stay tuned
Rarely, but it does happen
aint. no. way.
Sometimes they do
Ayla for ice team when plume was the only ice attacker
(but that's because plume is old as sht)
Lilith for dark team when she comes(but that's mainly because lamia is getting old)
older gen dpses do get crept by newer gen amplifiers (healers on steroids)
last instance i remembeer that gappening was empyrea
This.
tldr the game is just about how who to get max damage
Amps pretty much only powercreep if a unit is getting old
also wtf is annhilator
Do not judge by class, judge by how fat the unit is 
Otherwise nah
It's just a battle between tanks and attackers and who's newer
special class for luna, converts all buffs/debuffs to omni element variant
Kaleido is top 1 by that logic
lilith (healer) replaced lamia as main dark dps
She gonna crush every corrupted with her body frfr 
this is why void (nihil) comps rn are just use your best team members, since anyone (except physical units) works
She can crush me fr fr
ah so thats why shes so good for new accounts then?
Very flexible team building, yeah
We are yet to see a Nihil tank right?
ishmael
it's ish
And if you don't have the respective dps for a certain element, she can fill in for that team
Ish technically
what are the chances Empy finally gets replaced ?
high
stay tuned
She can be both be an amp and tank
wait is ish just everything?
I don't think a fire amp has been announced for cn just yet so gotta wait a couple more months
Oh. Interesting.
Poor girl needs to rest
Nope, she takes the role of either tank or healer
Depends which one you're missing
ishmael has the observer class, it can switch between amplifier or tank depending on the missing role
it's a bit complex
A joker.
😭
you can do /observer in #📨・bot-info if u want to see it more in depth
godammit now im obligated to get 6m somehow
Phat whel
Wildcard I mean.
ok so shes not outdpsing my main dps right? oh wait I forgot tank=dps
@rocky wedge i love you mr whale
CN wont get anything new until were done catching uptho right? meaning we wont get any news on new chars till September ish?
maybe
Holi whel
no, CN will just continue lol
Ishmael is the dps of the void team actually 
But that's only with heavy investment if I remember correctly
ish only do dmg in nihil team
in every other team she only functions as qte bot and memo holder
No she's not, because you use her on nihil team, you can't bring her into Ice war zone
void team is a result of kuro want to expand the game element without burdening us and them with A rank after A rank before having full S rank team released
For example*
whats memo holder
Imagine CN community reaction if this was true.
When’s jetavie patch going live?
Just a unit who equips a set of memories
i wish the devs would take a break until we catch up and have their workforce focus on Wuwa until then
memory holder, basically just a slave that holds support memory in this context
yeah they would riot probably
yeah world doesnt work like that
CN pgr carries PGR income
if they dont release versions might as well eos the game
global is insignificant
No way u expect a live service game to have no updates for a whole year thats not how games work brotha
Sometime this week I forgot, like Thursday or Friday
glb is like <1% of pgr playerbase, they couldn't care less abt it
speaking of income, how much does PRG as a whole bring in? Wuwa i believe was like 12 ~ 13m last month for Peebs release
Ah okay
Im trying to guess when we’re getting news about the new vera. Should be like 2-3 weeks into the new CN patch right?
im not familiar with income numbers
let me dream 
i remember seeing smth like 200k
can Nanami be used as main dps without CW?
Yep information of new unit should be released around that time
SEA vs CN
pgr is always one of the least earner. by they're cockroaches just like gfl always survive
I think global represents about 10 to 15 % of PGR total income.
aint no way, maybe for one tiny region alone maybe? damn
SEA is mind you, the biggest global server
@mighty tusk lmao ss0 r0 lucid dreamer with changyu and 5* kale can apparently get better mado times than our old ice invest
Nanami starrail yes, she kicks non-SSS CW off the team
also jesus, how many in EU then?
Shred doing its magic
Our qu's dmg was crippled back then lmao
btw this is legend wz, the highest tier
eu leader wz vs cn leader wz
WTF
cn is carrying pgr
What the hell
Yeah CN is keeping us alive
Thank u cn bros
what in the actual...
interesting, so its not uncommon to get the same people in ur WZ over and over again
can i pass with s daren as davinci holder and teddy as all the buff mem holder?
Endgame participation is not equivalent to revenue made.
kr server btw 
in simulation seige if i don't save my score will the attempt count?
WHAT
it wasn't being tied to revenue
WHAT
we were showing the population difference
What the
just 1 whale clowning on the entire server indefinitely prob lmao
Btw I did wz on my other acc, for some reason got the same score on phys even though its alisa is r0 compared to r1 on the other one lmao
As for ice I managed to get 5.1m but I think I can hit wave 30 if I mald or something
can I just not pull CW and use nanami startrail as my main dps in lighting team?
Oh, then nevermind.
kr were hit the most fropm synchro and 90% of whels left
anyone ?
Yes of course
the best way
Probably not idk
Guild siege? Nope
cw is free later
alrigth thanks
yes, but u get a free cw anyway on ishmael patch, nanami also is the main dps and she can solo (actually will tbh since cw is too weak unless SSS)
Who should I get from wish banner? I have hanying, oblivion, cw, watanbe,
with feral
don't get anyone save your bc
they had 22 peeps prev week actualy ded game
Yes
So I can skip CW gacha outfit then.
tell me everyone thats free atp
we have two S ranks next patch better save for them
She also comes with her sig and cub, and a free 21 feral
Tbh the thing about whales quitting is that most whales already had way too much disposable income to have synchro be a real issue for their wallet
WHAT
In PPC yes, in Warzone Teddy should be DV holder to refresh Daren tank QTE so you can debuff new waves that are spawning
Since she is losing relevancy.
It's mainly lighter spenders who went f2p or quit really
No feral sig though, but that's available in the feral BP
Which gives like
400 skulls
2 free weapon resonance usb
680 bc
And a ton of other goodies
as long as EU has a growing base of new players im happy, my biggest worry was that when i eventually hit the end game, i would be gang banged by existing whales with no means of catching up
yeah, but its up to you, she gets to see the field during swap weather iirc
For about $10
thanks dalao. my dark absolutely bricked daren sig didn't do much. lilith still giving me nightmare
I wonder how much time to see her completely replaced.
Until she gets officially replaced by a light attacker LMAO
kr have completely opposite mentality of glb
they don't just eat all the bs you throw them
aintnoway bruh, all my new account pulls were spent on CW, Vera and No.21 feral 😢
A new light attacker would have to do absurd dmg to be able to surpass startrail dps
when will we get free cw and feral? ish patch ?
yes ishmael
The Asia mentality
Like it'll probably oneshot off ele ppc bosses or something
might just do smth like qu wanshi dual
Oh yea lilith is still tanky for non-dark teams, could try to use oblivion for it or your best time to cope until you get lilith later on
Powercreep and boosted HP pools on enemies will do all the work.
not really when jp exists 
and lightning amp 
Japanese ppl aren’t real
jp shouldve gone eos with their treatment
deep fkin value
You should be able to get better phys score if u pay attention to the hps i managed to not overkill some waves by timing my QTEs to clear soem waves before the final hit of hanying’s ult so it takes out a chunk of the next wave. Other than that I dont think I did anything specific to get my score
As for Ice, ill try again tomorrow cs I unintentionally trolled myself lol
I mean they'd have to rotate either way but yeah might be a near-equal dps at same invest like lilith/lamia and wanshi/qu
im interested when will nanami become a bottleneck in lightning team 
yeah i meant the near equal dps part
99% of ppl don't even have any clue they are are being treated far worse than the rest of servers
ah, isolated
this gotta be the definition of being baited into bricking
didn't help that all my r2 dps is getting meh sooner than most. lee, lamia, cw
@wispy robin is nanaknight dps comparable to pyro?
hello hi, im real 
Guys I thank everyone who helped me, But I gotta leave this chat since there are 3 more gachas to go and I haven't finished PGR weeklies. I know nobody cares but, have a good one.
bruh I pulled CW cuz she looked cool and I wanted a team around her, didn't expect it to brick me this hard, I thought she was meta😢
comparable to pyro ss3 i would say
at SS?
Wtf is she really THAT stupid broken?

pyro ss too cripled
I genuinely thought she was just a little bit stronger than wata with usable solo lmao
wth does that meannn
I had no idea she was this busted
ultimate spectacle indeed
cw is cool but she have more style than dps
still love how she didn't need any orb to play tho
she has advantage o being solo dps and simple rot
pyro is held back by swap with wata and cripled rots at ss0
usable solo 
i feel you bro and cant blame you for falling into it, i started abt 10days ago and since im a super anxious ocd gamer i did a ton of research and asking in the discord to find out the most optimized, min maxed way to kick start the account and only then i found out abt all these newbie traps that are like intentionally designed to scam and brick accounts its wild.
I realized that when I got outdpsed by a Hanying with 500 less bp than me in coop💀
So SS3 pyro is minimal human rights invest?
she's better of having a 5* and swapping with wata than going solo
Lamia is still fine honestly, at least she can 580k lilith with A ranks
for ion in particular it's huge step up
2 ult rot > 5 ult rots
holy christ yellow blue is mega brick for wanshi
These are the full feral bp awards:
680 bc
feral sig
400 skulls
2 wep usbs
50 harmony accelerators
36 hypertunes
man we started around the same day too, good thing u researched man, happy for u
Ye I meant dmg per rotation/per swap
depends how you define that to be
How much are those BPs?
Huh 36 hypertunes holy
she is a lot more flexible at ss3 tho that much is true
68rc
i mean it's impossible to tell when pyro can only do 1 single rot before swap and nana has endless rot
68 rc is roughly... $10.50 usd(convert to your local money)
ss0 pyro much like hyper in a sense
36????!!!!
Are you saying
you got this man, just reroll and this time u got everything down to the beat, just keep asking in here whenever ur not sure as to what to do
So in neutral content who would be better at ss0 for example?
Like say, trailblazer
swap or solo
If we were to merge every single server for pgr besides CN one and make it to one big server, the total players for it are still far from half of CN server numbers?
Wait, 36 hypertuned memos worth of materials?
hypertune is cheap once you get to play the game. usb and skulls is the best value

Although nanami already has an unfair advantage of the ability to use double amp or r1 tank to carry shred reso for her
luckily i think I still got time to recover, thanks for the advice bro, gl on ur account too 🙏
pyro is the worst ppc chara that is there so you wouldn't brng her unless you can 1 rot boss
yeah lmao 
probably 20%? 30%
maybe 40% best
I mean ideally in trailblazer you'd wanna oneshot with someone as strong as pyrooath right?
They might as well made pgr name to Chinese on all versions
best value the world has to offer for skipping 1 star bucks coffee
uh... you would need to get through 2 ult forms before the big ult 
Also my wata reso looking kinda funni
I lied it's about $11.56
$1.06 more
that’s not even all
that’s the paid tier not the free tier
she has 2 ult forms and a medium and beeeg ult
permanent “lightning team freebie event” on ishmael patch
free:
CW
CW sig
CW cub
Feral
2 wep usbs
100 skulls
25 harmo accelerators
A rank CUB selector
12 hypertunes
68 rc special battlepass:
680 bc
feral sig
400 skulls
2 wep usbs
50 harmony accelerators
36 hypertunes
permanent banner:
15k bc for mats (including 6 hypertunes) and selector up to nanami startrail (the new lightning DPS)
Does she have happy meals size too?
medium ult is after first ult form
beeg ult after the 2nd ult form
Wait does she have to do a crippled opener rotation or something?
she can instant ult 1 once she swaps in but you need to do 2 sets of stuff after
before the meteor crash ult
I think I gotta start now actually, ty once again, im addicted to this game so I can afford to start over
yes
If you are ss0 she has to do crippled 1st rot
yea she needs criple opening rot to be able to do any decent rot
LESGOOOO HARMONIES 
if you have no dlt on pyroath every rot is the crippled rot iirc
you wont regret it man! think about how well optimized ur acc is gonna be now that u know what to avoid and what to go for!
Also for some reason, Phys, Physical, Physic word is banned in KR server 
So wait, one-rot fire still has to be with wata then?
dlt is first rot crippled second onwards normal
So that's why she's kinda ass in ppc at ss0 huh
that and she’s slow
nice
Rip
her first dmg ult in ppc doesn’t come until like 8s
Yikes
I thought we were the only one who hates phys
Ig that means she's reserved for seriously tanky bosses lmfaoo
Apparently, it's almost globalwide
oh don’t worry that’s why shorthalt is 22 mil hp fire weak and veronica is 30 mil hp ion weak
good that onslaught exists
Wtf

Oh wait isn't monzano also 30m
nah not really
i tried her vs lilith and got 45 sec while solo wanshi got 26🐴
yes

Lmfao pain
wdym
Ion attacker with fire affix 
plume was ppc goddess 
Yeah because ion dmg is as inflated as a beluga whale
Who
ravenfeather 
But the problem is that once you need multiple rots your score is guaranteed to be MUCH worse
All these bloated health pools just
Because ion enablers do no damsge
Cradle 22m lightning boss
😭
you know red huaxu in IB is 66 mil right
cradle literally free tho 🐴
I want to see slash boss in ppc
Yep
But what's REALLY egregious is primal projection at 27m you'd think lilith hits like pyrooath for them to slap that much hp onto the boss 🤡
MOAAARRR
ah
Not whel... I just don't use much
With slash amp it will have 50m hp i suppose 
gib
You gib
-
she just like hanying frfr
-
her rotation looks smth like this
swap in -> basic -> ult -> 3 red + basic (i think hold basic + basic here?) -> tap ult -> hold basic until bar depletes -> beeg ult

that’s cute you think its 3red only
Yes 😭
Now that you mention it I remember
Whose?
at tap ult you can choose between medium or tap ult to go into her 2nd form
usually its 6-9red
12 red if you fill the gauge from 0
I mean tbh as long as you have a usable investment on the character intended for the boss you're usually fine but those bosses can be an issue if the line up is all tanky bosses lol
pyro
Ohh thanks
ya but red consumes 3 orbs by default
So she's really orb hungry
so 3 red = 9 orbs
Hanying and ballard do surprisingly well against their patch bosses lol
I just learned proper wanshi
nah surely this will be fine right
If she needs to do hold ult in the middle that's even longer 
wata*
Especially han since she ACTUALLY has solo capability
easy sweep
I might regret using 3 USBs this patch

dw i made the same mistake as well be4
LaughingMyGayAssOff
im gonna make a fun diagram of pyro rotation 
Waiting for the day kuro trolls us with phys/ice/glaciation
i wonder how much ss3 pyro will get vs shithalt now
you know it's gonna happen one day

fire/lightning/ion
Exppc will be full affix one day 
What's wanshi's PPC build again?
Same as wz
And you will regret you fed rosetta and glory sigs as resos
Corrosion 
doubtful
yo whats that website
huaxu.app
huaxu
Just phase strike it bro
Bruh 
you can see the warzone/ppc state + story + players including public profiles
Explore players and other data from the Punishing: Gray Raven outside of the game.
you can use it to show your account too for example
beeeg

ok where’s ur gunsmoke kill then
i got legend this time
I hate phys wz so much 
And it seems like Alisa is bugged 
nah i'd auto
oh wait. selena patch selector is only up to wata??? maaaan thats...useless 
up to qu
qu
OH????
Did you do expansion drill 10
then I can get SSS qu 
but if dont have ss3 wata thats a good place to get it
im good
The correct way to use wanshi is it to do both of his ult in 1 rotation ?
Yes
it's 2 rotations but yea
That way u can utilize both cub and signature stack optimally
I dont quite get that ultimate stack
Sometimes i have 30 stack after first ult, but sometimes i dont
Wtf happened 😭
broke ahh
this raises all kinds of issues tho. cause if i go qu from selector then i have to go qu from the blue banner reset too and that fks up my previous plans
Wanshi cub boost his ult dmg if:
U have number 12 on his core bar, boost screen ult dmg a lot
U have number 30 on his core bar, both his own kits and cub boost airborne ult dmg by a lot
I had like 14M a few months ago too
U do his ultimate in order
Red tap to empty cylinder will give u 12 stack
Hold basic to empty cylinder give u 24 stack
Do screen ult once at start and swap out, u'd have 12 stack ready by next swap
few months ago
Do his airborne ult after swap it, 12 + 24 is more than 30 already
That way his airborne ult will benefit max stack
Screen ult for 2nd ult
few months ago? 
do u just have a video rotation for every case
No
its like a trap card
every team, yes
someone just activates it

Airbone ult is the hold atk one ?
Hi yuri 
Yes
where s+ rot
can you sent them to me on dm please

I want to add them in the sheet

Will the feral BP be up immediately on new patch launch?

2 days login mission

||Nuh uh||

I don't understand
wth new emojis 
||
||
u won't open reso usbs till finish missions
Predator alert 
In here?

Okay
yes
ban speedrun%
[||Guides and FAQs||](#📨・meta-help message)

Like regular BP right

no its own missions
like lvl cw to 80 lvl cw sig to 30 use cw in ppc 3 times 
do i click
use cw in ppc? 
forced to by the missions
Wasn’t there warzone too


Free mone
should put huge disclaimer before ish patch
do NOT reso feed cw sig instantly
you need to lvl it to 30 for mission or you won't be able to progress feral bp past 10lvl

#permabrick
Should i fully leap empyrea ?
i would have done it if not for umbra memes
yes
Yea mfs here going on ab "Thank god for Nanami, CW dedge" lol did u forget she got an affix leap she still is gonna be around for another 4-6 months at least 😭
surely umbra with cw will be able to outdmg ss0 trueslash
trueslash is the "go girl give us nothing" out of the affixes that have a playable comp currently
so true
is wanshi the last dorm commision chara? the upcoming s ranks gonna be banner only?
but if we already got her weapon, that mission will be auto completed, right? R-right? 
surely it would work like that
lilith is still gonna be free
After some, there'll be free S rank along with sig and cub with special banner that you can get the currency of it from dailies mission
@sharp grove 🐳 
jujulao is here 
is there anybody thats still useful in the new account srank selector?
@rocky wedge What do we think of this, is this good?
Phys wz 2.12.13 222 111
hi whellao
kirilao 


I only see you in global chat 

definitely looks good to me. good job
tf does it still lock even if we already have weave sig maxed
beforehand
Am in here sometimes
and if I see lao in glb chat I speak

Juju socializes daily 
idk i didn't have it so can't tell
im definitely underperforming for my invest level i think 😄
but hanying and her overspending on pings is killing me

@sharp grove https://youtu.be/gx1aylu2kUM
peak zaza run
don't ask me what I did, cuz I have zero idea lul
Team investment:
[SS] Feral + 6* Weapon [8% ATK + 10% ATK]
4x DaVinci + 2x Samantha + 2x Lantern [2 class]
Hades [+100 ATK / +10% Lightning dmg]
[SSS] Empyrea + 6* Weapon [15% ATK + 10% ATK]
4x Guine + 2x Gloria + 2x Einsteina [4 class]
Yuan Ye [+60 ATK / +25 ATK / +10% Fire Dmg]
[SSS] Epitaph + 6* Weapon [Matrix + Fire Shred]
4x Alphonse + 4...
is the Points Ranking list in WZ for the whole EU server?
yes for each rank
Should I save for nanami startrail or get epitaph from the special banner?
Save for nonomi
awesome!
Wishing target is bait for upcoming S rank debut barrage
save for debut units always. epitaph u can get from standard banner reset in ishamel patch or from the mission selector in selena patch
How long is the current patch?
6 weeks

what units are we getting next patch?
lucia pyroath and nanami startrail (and also yata but shes A rank and nobody cares)
https://huaxu.app/ap/players/16366357/characters
Anyone know what team do i use for current ppc
Explore the 41 characters of FutureIDK812 from the Asia-Pacific server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
Pyroath, Yata and Nonomi
appc or exppc? im assuming exppc but juts making sure
Oh yea took a lil bit for me to get used to so it’s fine for me now
Ultimate
i care 
whellao
Ora Ora girl
wth yata is so cool
cw who?
fr
I care 
I realised I never saw gameplay for her
im gonna solo nanami anyway
sure 
why yata using lightsabers from dark yoda?
all S rank?
2 S ranks and 1 A rank
Yata no
yata A rank
Yata plays kinda weird









