📨・meta-help

[zenith thorn]

wtf zaza

not 4bath2ein2gloria?

[livid lark]

oh wait yea its that

[zenith thorn]

LMFAO

[night sigil]

[livid lark]

sorry i had in my mind just 2pc mem sets

[night sigil]

Will jetavie hold 4 bath

[livid lark]

but yea 2.7m is possible

[zenith thorn]

yes

[livid lark]

what other choice does she have

[zenith thorn]

4patton duh

[night sigil]

Frederick

[vale raft]

Frederick ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

Each dodge increases Movement Speed by 15% and Extra DMG Bonus by 5% for 5s. Can be stacked up to 3 times. Duration resets every time it is triggered.

4pc Set Bonus

When the character triggers Matrix, all enemies' speed decreases by 20% and their Extra DMG Reduction decreases by 15% for 4s. 8s cooldown.

ATK

136

CRIT

64

DEF

223

HP

1446

[night sigil]

[livid lark]

hmm.... nahh....

[night sigil]

Anything that can replace my lamia ASAP

[night sigil]

What else

[livid lark]

it's gonna be either darwin or cottie

[night sigil]

Hanna?

I don't think so

[livid lark]

lmao no

[frank jungle]

Alrighty it works now, lmao reason my took like 3-5 sec was I did 2x 3 ping

[night sigil]

I wonder if she can 2222

[zenith thorn]

why

u gained absolutely 0

[livid lark]

you need harmony for that

[night sigil]

[zenith thorn]

just do 44

or 42

[night sigil]

So 4 bath and 2 eins / 2 cott?

[livid lark]

and you only run 422 in special cases mind you

[night sigil]

Let's make her a tank

[zenith thorn]

why 2ein

[livid lark]

we dont even know fully how her kit works yet

[night sigil]

I'm so excited to burn the fish

Like everyday i wake up it's gone

[zenith thorn]

asam pedas lamia
as a certain someone said

[night sigil]

[verbal crown]

Is this pack worth it

[night sigil]

Don't know what that means but all i know is that i can finally be free

[feral pollen]

[zenith thorn]

yes
high values

actually lemme check

[verbal crown]

Best value too?

[zenith thorn]

holup

[livid lark]

is your lamia base s0 or something?

[night sigil]

Yes with no sig/cub

It's funny because i got her at debut

[ruby minnow]

https://tinyurl.com/PGRPacks

u can use this sheet to look at what has the best value without

[verbal crown]

Temkyu

[zenith thorn]

ouh just decent packs

[verbal crown]

Tbh I just want to get back that pull I lost from pulling Lamia skin

[livid lark]

pulling skin is brick like I said

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1240599200618512426.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=selenayes

[zenith thorn]

wdym

i live perfectly fine

[somber willow]

Frames like Epitaph, Shukra, Solacetune, and Lucid Dreamer are not available in this mode right?

[zenith thorn]

ya

[livid lark]

ya cos the mode ended with lamia

[verbal crown]

Dw nothing is bricked for me (I am in fact bricked )

[somber willow]

Damn. I guess collab characters like Dante and Vergil cannot be played in this mode either right?

[night sigil]

They aren't even released yet

[livid lark]

at least you didnt skip other teams like someone else I encountered recently

[livid lark]

correct

[mighty tusk]

Collab units are not in roguelike modes

[verbal crown]

Well about that...

[mighty tusk]

No trial in guilde siege either

[night sigil]

Did you skip wanshi?

[verbal crown]

If I didn't get my pulls back, I might need to skip Pyroath

[livid lark]

🧱

[shy jackal]

wanshi free wtfym lol

[verbal crown]

Damn why did I said Wanshi

[livid lark]

skipping a free unit?

[verbal crown]

I mean Pyroath

PYROATH, I WAS GOING TO SAY PYROATH

[livid lark]

dont do it again

smh

[somber willow]

oh... well that's kinda disappointing. I mean this 1st rogue-like mode, I'm 127/150. I just got lazy, and the other is 27/150

[raw swift]

yea I'm skipping Pyroath

[livid lark]

shorthalt has 21m hp lmao

[mighty tusk]

22

[verbal crown]

I mean depends on what I get at the end of patch

[livid lark]

only have wata? LMAO

[somber willow]

any predictions on what element Dante and Vergil will be?

[livid lark]

no 580k skull achievement for you

[livid lark]

no and it's not really our concern anyway

they wont be meta thats for sure

and no

they will not be like nier

[verbal crown]

I have pass 21 days left for bc pass and if I get back my pulls:
Pass BC + 19k bc + the rest of the weekly + daily

[somber willow]

what do you mean?

[verbal crown]

I think it should be enough... I think

[night sigil]

Their element would be related to bricks

[mighty tusk]

[livid lark]

nier was meta for sometime since that was their first collab but that stopped after

[thorn creek]

They will not be meta nor cost bc to pull cuz they’ll most likely be free

[somber willow]

My Dark team is absolutely trash, and I'm hoping at least Vergil will be dark element

[livid lark]

then grab the free lillith

[somber willow]

well, we don't know that for now

[livid lark]

dont rely on collab units

[night sigil]

There's lilith and jetavie coming tho

[formal void]

Didn’t brs cost bc?

[livid lark]

thats a surefire way to destroy your account

[carmine reef]

first copy of brs was free

[mighty tusk]

They gave 1 copy for free

[pearl solstice]

Is capriccio bad now

[thorn creek]

She was free and can use bc to rank up

[worthy gulch]

this is so interesting,

[formal void]

O

[night sigil]

Yes and her tickets are collab vers

[mighty tusk]

Yes

[livid lark]

she never was good

[carmine reef]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[night sigil]

[thorn creek]

Always

[trim flare]

should i get deadline timing on Ayla Kaleido or Qu: Shukra, who needs it more

[livid lark]

maybe a little bit on release

[pearl solstice]

Hmm

[thorn creek]

Das why u use feesh

[wispy robin]

it's fine they can always make them uniframes for that s rank title

[somber willow]

I skipped Lamia and Scire. I got Scire from the free selector in the void luna patch, but its SS0 and has no sig weapon

[livid lark]

qu by a longshot

[pearl solstice]

Why is she bad

[carmine reef]

i mean capri came out after empy

[formal void]

Qu, ayla is a qte bot now

[carmine reef]

already mid on release

[pearl solstice]

I mean even during release

[mighty tusk]

So just as useless then. Got it

[night sigil]

Sss

[foggy ridge]

i c

[zenith thorn]

too many stuff to list

[thorn creek]

Even an A rank can outbuff her b4 she’s SSS

[pearl solstice]

Oh

[mighty tusk]

Much of her power budget is in sss

[zenith thorn]

memories,investment

[deft apex]

Friendly reminder to update roadmap when u can

[foggy ridge]

oh trust me my rotations are garbage. ima show the vid in a good bit

[night sigil]

Voucher hoarder queen

[zenith thorn]

everything abouth her is

[pearl solstice]

But if I get her to SSS is she good

[foggy ridge]

its cursed af

[thorn creek]

U still need sig wep and r1

[carmine reef]

1. heal buff locked to 4pc mem
2. no fkn damage
3. needs so much investment just to be functional onfield
4. needs sss just to be a better support than a fkn A rank

[night sigil]

I'd rather take the free sss+ teddy

[formal void]

Did it change?

[zenith thorn]

need sig too
plus investing her this late is mehhh

[mighty tusk]

Still not worth now with lilith near

[livid lark]

yea thats a brick right there

you'll be waiting for collab units that wont even come close to doing the same amount of damage as units released 1-2 years ago

[zenith thorn]

lillith is already near

[tulip spade]

Hey guys, is Ayla's Frost Crystal applied on her QTE as well or is this only for her signature move?

[frail hinge]

mmm

[wispy robin]

btw would you put both ish and nana on the same release day now 🐴

[pearl solstice]

Ok

[thorn creek]

Qte

[zenith thorn]

qte as well

[pearl solstice]

Thx

It's just dark team feels so bad rn

[deft apex]

I did some changes, also updated it

[livid lark]

requires sig weapon and r2 ro decently rotate

[thorn creek]

Yeah so the only hope is solo lamia for now

Lilith coming in a few months to help dark a bit

[livid lark]

solo lamia

if you need to pop resos on alisa

[night sigil]

Lilith will save you

[thorn creek]

But even then dark is still doo doo

[deft apex]

No cuz they still releasing 1 week apart officially speaking

[formal void]

What part of the roadmap changed?

[pearl solstice]

Hmm

[livid lark]

run alisa with harmony amd 4 guin qte bot

[worthy gulch]

whats new thats not on the roadmap ?

[thorn creek]

🤓

[vale raft]

Current Roadmap (as of Mar 01th 2025)

[tulip spade]

@zenith thorn is her SIG for that extra 10% increase massive ?

[deft apex]

[thorn creek]

Newer A rank

[livid lark]

no not really

[wispy robin]

ish and nana swapping places

[somber willow]

I need more sword/katana male characters and we only have Epitaph. Vergil, a non PGR character, is the only thing I know that is coming this year and who knows what element he will. I skipped Lamia and Scire because I don't like their gameplay. Yes I have been suffering in Dark team content with my SSS Cappricio, SS Tene, and SS Dark Luna

[turbid bridge]

[night sigil]

Wait what

[zenith thorn]

kinda
not worth back pulling
but ur a spender anyway,can consider back pulling

[tulip spade]

define back pulling ?

[zenith thorn]

pulling old characters

[pearl solstice]

Wait that's yata? Wtf didn't know she is cute

[night sigil]

I need more sword/katana male characters and we only have Epitaph. Vergil, a non PGR character, is the only thing I know that is coming this year and who knows what element he will. I skipped Lamia and Scire because I don't like their gameplay. Yes I have been suffering in Dark team content with my SSS Cappricio, SS Tene, and SS Dark Luna

[thorn creek]

Pulling older units

[turbid bridge]

Another one for brickistan

[zenith thorn]

or old stuffs

[deft apex]

Swapped nana and ish places, added patch names, added jetavie and possibly vera, wording change

[thorn creek]

Cuz she’s old af already

[livid lark]

either choose appearance or meta

you cannot have both

if you choose the former, there's no point asking about whether they can replace old dark

thats not how this game works

[zenith thorn]

@livid lark hi add this to pasta

[pearl solstice]

Yata is A rank? Is she bad

[mighty tusk]

If you skip because you don't like their gameplay even if you can get them at their 100% debut, you have no choice but to cope

[raw swift]

Teneb!?

[somber willow]

lol

[livid lark]

ayyy lol

[thorn creek]

A rank is always mid

[livid lark]

A ranks are never meta

[raw swift]

Jetavie

[thorn creek]

No one mention jetaive

FK

[night sigil]

Jetavie

[raw swift]

[somber willow]

So far, only the Ice Team is the one that I enjoy playing,

[livid lark]

feesh replacement

[pearl solstice]

Jetawho?

[thorn creek]

STAWWWWPPPPP

[pearl solstice]

Hmm

[mighty tusk]

You want to broadcast to the world she can replace lamia?

[pearl solstice]

Jetavie is A rank no?

[thorn creek]

U GUYS ARE LYINGGGGGG

FAKE NEWS

[livid lark]

then you cant clear other endgame content and your rewards are basically stuck to BC

[mighty tusk]

Yes

[pearl solstice]

Wait feesh like jetavie?

[night sigil]

Scored decently even after her nerf

[deft apex]

The numbers dont lie kev.

[somber willow]

yes, I don't like the idea of spending too much to SS3 Scire and risk of not getting her sig weapon

[thorn creek]

No it’s cuz at beta jetaive almost matches lamia

Well actually equals

[raw swift]

But.. u can voucher Karen now tho...

[somber willow]

I have 130K BC, I have skipped a lot of characters

[foggy ridge]

https://youtu.be/C_WZOZi9_as

[night sigil]

Still does

[pearl solstice]

Almost matches?

[livid lark]

you can use a ranks as substitutes and solo with lamia

[pearl solstice]

But she is A rank now

[livid lark]

not having the unit is WORSE

[pearl solstice]

So definitely nerfed right?

[thorn creek]

Yeah that’s why she’s debuffed to match A ranks

[mighty tusk]

Surely

[distant wren]

wait the "equal ppc time clear", even if jetavie using busted support, she still doesn't have time stop
so that's pretty damn good

[somber willow]

For my SSS Vergil funds

[pearl solstice]

So lamia stays?

[thorn creek]

So they’re trying to keep lamia more dark dmg dealer

[turbid bridge]

Almost equal ye

But assuming max invest Jetavie

[night sigil]

That's you

[thorn creek]

||Cuz I bribed them ||

[pearl solstice]

Lamia has quite a few skins too

[livid lark]

so, are you here to ask about the meta or no? if not, please return to #💬・pgr-general if you have nothing else worth for us to help you with

[turbid bridge]

Vs baseline lamia

[mighty tusk]

Bench the fish?

[night sigil]

@/mods

[turbid bridge]

Nah if SS0 fish still fish then

[pearl solstice]

Lamia is still used in cn?

[thorn creek]

Stop benching lamia

[turbid bridge]

Yep

[thorn creek]

It’s not happening

[pearl solstice]

But only as sub dps right?

[turbid bridge]

SS0 fish > max invest Jetavie still

[mighty tusk]

You dont want to eat her raw?

[thorn creek]

Yeah

[turbid bridge]

Dual dps with Lilith

[night sigil]

Kamui says hi

[mighty tusk]

Lamia is viable as sashimi

[pearl solstice]

Ok

[thorn creek]

Cuz Lilith is more dmg now

[pearl solstice]

I like lamia too

[worthy gulch]

what in the

[distant wren]

lamia leap as qte bot soon

[pearl solstice]

But Lilith is evil

[wispy robin]

she gets 229w wz even w/o timestop

[pearl solstice]

[thorn creek]

If evil why hot

[night sigil]

[pearl solstice]

Qu stop pointing

[turbid bridge]

Surely they won’t nerf her again on release

[night sigil]

Honestly just put timestop on her 😭

[distant wren]

oh wow that's pretty amazing for an A rank

[pearl solstice]

Are people pissed abt jetavie being A rank

[thorn creek]

Nooooooooooooo umbra affix trust

[wispy robin]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1CQAUeVEg4?t=20.4

[night sigil]

They already did so she matches up to astral

[thorn creek]

Yeah

[mighty tusk]

Kinda?

[livid lark]

kuro had to nerf her core lmao

[turbid bridge]

What no, astral is way worse lmao

[thorn creek]

She doesn’t deserve A rank tbh

[night sigil]

[turbid bridge]

Says the feesh lover

[mighty tusk]

There jetavie simps that are disappointed with her being a rank

[livid lark]

says the feesh defender

[distant wren]

you really want her to be on the same curse as cw?

[night sigil]

Are you cheating on lamia?

[glass bay]

today was my first experience doing wz drunk

not recommended

[thorn creek]

No lie they fumbled on jetaive being A rank

[foggy ridge]

thank god shes a rank otherwise id go broke

[carmine reef]

i mean honestly look at her design

[thorn creek]

Feesh bias aside

[carmine reef]

i wish she was S rank too

[night sigil]

Maybe beta is the S rank

[pearl solstice]

Why

[thorn creek]

Goth/crazy girls makes stonks

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/758147515647918100.gif

[raw swift]

same ngl

[mighty tusk]

Imagine if vera is an a-rank instead

[pearl solstice]

How many S ranks in a row before jetavie

[carmine reef]

4

[night sigil]

Jetavie kind of looks like grunge more than goth

[turbid bridge]

Like 4 with one being free

[thorn creek]

4

[foggy ridge]

that would be 5 S RANKS IN A ROW. 6 TECHNICALLY IF VERA WAS NEXT

[pearl solstice]

FOUR?

Wtf

[carmine reef]

yea

[somber willow]

Just trying my best to know how I can still make optimal teams despite skipping a lot of characters and hoping to get the future dark characters that will replace my current ones. I don't have Stigmata, Hyperreal but right now my Fire, Ice, Physical are doing fine.

[night sigil]

Yeah

[distant wren]

nuh uh

[thorn creek]

get em bc’s ready

[pearl solstice]

I can't...

I don't have bc

[raw swift]

Lilith is free but ye 4

[carmine reef]

that's why it's good that the next one is A rank, but i sure wish it was somebody else

[somber willow]

she's Amp right?

[pearl solstice]

I only have enuf BC for nanaknight and pyroath

[thorn creek]

Dark amp yes

[turbid bridge]

Next male* A rank just because Kuro

[foggy ridge]

asimov

[thorn creek]

Celica

[distant wren]

male? in my pgr?

[pearl solstice]

Thank god it's yata after pyroath

Yata is free right?

[carmine reef]

i been asking for roland dark amp since forever
but now that lilith exists, i must change my call
ROLAND DARK TANK WHERE

[thorn creek]

Yes

[pearl solstice]

Is she going to be like teddy

[livid lark]

you cant without those

if you want to know which units to get, you should have consulted us prior

but since you're so hellbent in skipping important banners for the collab, there's nothing we can help you with

[foggy ridge]

nah celica s rank guaranteed

[thorn creek]

Likely SSS+ in her patch

[pearl solstice]

Ok

Good

[thorn creek]

Limited

[foggy ridge]

watch out that might be kamui maybe

[night sigil]

Celica C rank

[foggy ridge]

id think hed fit more as void tank

[carmine reef]

kinda meh about kamui

[wispy robin]

imagine if new kamui frame is a rank

[raw swift]

Kamui fire tank trust

[foggy ridge]

or something similar

[thorn creek]

Zeru would riot

[somber willow]

are recent A Rank DPS characters never viable to endgame like Norman even if they're maxed out?

[pearl solstice]

Lamia new frame

[thorn creek]

YES

[pearl solstice]

Maybe we are getting new lamia

[thorn creek]

I AGREE

[night sigil]

Umbrasurge tank to support cw ☠️🤢

[pearl solstice]

And in fire element

[foggy ridge]

she jsut turns into a whale

[turbid bridge]

Meanwhile dark having the most busted A rank line up with Jetavie Teddy and XXI

[carmine reef]

A rank dps cannot clear norman abyssal

[pearl solstice]

[raw swift]

Lamia: Lost Feesh?

[night sigil]

🤮

[livid lark]

yup

need s ranks for that

otherwise you wont be beating the timer

[carmine reef]

maybe you can clear everything below that, but definitely not abyssal

[pearl solstice]

Have U heard of fire fish

[mighty tusk]

More like if they're not at max invest, you might run out of time

[thorn creek]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[livid lark]

norman is still a dps check

[thorn creek]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/861187568891461652/1330594925275910324/lamia2.gif

[foggy ridge]

but yeah peep my ice wz run it is GARBAGE LMAO

[night sigil]

I think that's vera coming to hunt her

[livid lark]

sweet and sour fish

[turbid bridge]

Nah CN tried, actually impossible with max A rank invest dps to clear

[pearl solstice]

Tbh is vera still stronger than her

[thorn creek]

Stop slandering my feesh

[pearl solstice]

Hey I like lamia

[thorn creek]

It’s not funnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[pearl solstice]

She is my top 5

[somber willow]

How is Lilith's DPS output? Is she required to be SS3 too?

[pearl solstice]

[night sigil]

Tbh yeah i barely survived it without hanying

[foggy ridge]

good question ngl

[mighty tusk]

Now we need people use jetavie

[foggy ridge]

maybe not her garnet frame but definitely that new frame shes gonna have soon

[pearl solstice]

I think I can cause an argument

[turbid bridge]

Surely Jetavie Teddy XXI can clear dark zone

[mighty tusk]

She's a voucher unit so easier to ss3

[pearl solstice]

But I shouldn't I need to behave

[livid lark]

you can clear content with just ss0 base s ranks

[thorn creek]

U kidding me I argue with this chat everyday cuz they like to kill my feesh

[night sigil]

I'll use jetavie as replacement for base S0 lamia

[raw swift]

do it

[livid lark]

and not everything requires gacha to rank up

[pearl solstice]

Lamia is good to me

[thorn creek]

Just cuz it me

[foggy ridge]

idk feesh is the easiest to booli

[somber willow]

even with 5 star weapons?

[glass bay]

Feesh is cooked and so are u

[foggy ridge]

you and lamia

[mighty dock]

Just get feesh to ss0

[mighty tusk]

Even roland loves bullying her

[pearl solstice]

Lamia dmg is also not terrible

[night sigil]

When is lamia seasoned spring fish coating

[pearl solstice]

But it's also not the best

[sand laurel]

feesh

[livid lark]

yea
might take a bit longer but with skill it's possible to pull it off

[foggy ridge]

theres a koi skin for her coming soon lol

[night sigil]

Never 🤢

[thorn creek]

Well compared to future units it’s kinda mid at this point

[livid lark]

but ss0 is a must

[wispy robin]

man i surely hope ss0 lamia still swaps in with 3s lilith

[night sigil]

Damn grilled

[thorn creek]

If I’m honestly speaking

[pearl solstice]

Ye that's why luna might give her new frame

[livid lark]

some sigs are necessary, sometimes not required

[pearl solstice]

I hope so

[thorn creek]

I can only pray

[pearl solstice]

Maybe ice lamia

Goodbye qu

[turbid bridge]

It does with SS3 sig Scire but I’m not sure if without

[thorn creek]

So THESE GUYS WILL STOP BOOLI FEESH

[foggy ridge]

nah goodbye ayla that btch OLD

[wispy robin]

s 5* scire btw

[distant wren]

i'm about to solo ss3 lilith

[pearl solstice]

Amp lamia?

Hmm

[night sigil]

Hopefully she gets drenched in red tide

[turbid bridge]

Yea good luck finding reference for that

[raw swift]

wth Kev saying feesh slander

[livid lark]

speaking of which, I should try norman with just ss0 5* units

[pearl solstice]

Is lamia gen 3

[livid lark]

2

[somber willow]

yes

[raw swift]

2

[thorn creek]

2

[pearl solstice]

Or she is like late gen 2

Ok

Damn

[foggy ridge]

i have a feeling you will HATE lightning side

[thorn creek]

3 is with affix already at debut

[foggy ridge]

lilth is actually annoying af

[night sigil]

Wata epitaph is late gen 2 i think

[mighty tusk]

It's already weak

[pearl solstice]

If only she was released like 2 patch later

[livid lark]

well lightning can eat a sock lol

only need to fill 4 teams now

[foggy ridge]

cuz it turns into a stylish mode midway through which is like WHY

[pearl solstice]

Then she would be gen 3

[wispy robin]

i think i can afford 3s since i somehow still have 30k voucher

[livid lark]

i'll just use void

[thorn creek]

But then I’d have to wait soooo long for feesh gacha skin

[foggy ridge]

he still got dat dawg in him so hes not going anywhere rn

[livid lark]

void, phys/dark, ice, fire

[pearl solstice]

But then U can use lamia for 5 months more

[night sigil]

Fr he's the fire dps now

[pearl solstice]

Cuz she would be gen 3

Tbh I beat Norman with alpha ca soooo

[foggy ridge]

till pyroath anyway, and hes still useful cuz apparently pyroath cant function without him

[pearl solstice]

Who?

Uncle?

[livid lark]

not apparently, more like definitely

[livid lark]

mhmm

[distant wren]

when did norman first become a thing? echo aria?

[night sigil]

[pearl solstice]

Uncle is still used no?

[foggy ridge]

im just saying cuz im just going off what you guys say

[livid lark]

you can run pyro with 5* as long as you have epitaph and empy

[pearl solstice]

Even in cn

[mighty tusk]

Yes

[mighty dock]

Ever since norman died the norman revival plan started

[pearl solstice]

Damn empy is old

[livid lark]

as long as pyroath is rotating you'll be fine

[pearl solstice]

She wants to retire lol

[night sigil]

This is so justified because i pulled for wanshi sig

[pearl solstice]

Is wanshi sig that important

[mighty tusk]

Echo aria when ex05 was hell for new players

[pearl solstice]

Or I could save for pyroath sig

[livid lark]

note the conditons after

[thorn creek]

Mainly just for harmo

[distant wren]

any experience with ex6 uniframe stage osiris back then?

[thorn creek]

And dmg up

[livid lark]

harmony and resonances can make a huge difference

[mighty tusk]

Ex06 did not exist back then

[night sigil]

My epitaph has the sig so he can 4 shakes

[distant wren]

oh really? when was it added?

[livid lark]

pretty sure it was after cw

[mighty tusk]

Later, I dont remember which patch

[pearl solstice]

When can empy retire

[livid lark]

i do remember not being able to clear it when it came out

[thorn creek]

When new fire amp comes out

[night sigil]

Vera amp

[mighty tusk]

Nah, it was before that

[distant wren]

nah cw is way way after

[mighty tusk]

Even before stigmata patch, I was able to clear ex06 by malding

[livid lark]

same question we asked about glory before LD

[distant wren]

it def did become a thing by capri or pulao patch at most

[raw swift]

Nah Dark DPS trust

[night sigil]

🤢

[distant wren]

before that i'm not sure

[thorn creek]

[pearl solstice]

Is she going to be fire

[livid lark]

if vera is dark tank LMAO

seeya scire

[raw swift]

[mighty tusk]

The era of using nightblade-rigor-lumi

[pearl solstice]

Wait

[livid lark]

benched permanently

[pearl solstice]

But we can't pair vera with lamia

[night sigil]

Would be happy tbh

[pearl solstice]

That's be disastrous

[livid lark]

but you have to

[turbid bridge]

Vera dark tank* will make lamia retire into QTE bot

[distant wren]

it was actually hard back then lmao

[thorn creek]

I don’t agree with this prediction

https://tenor.com/view/dying-dead-monkey-gif-14754959

[livid lark]

but you may have to

[pearl solstice]

People need to stop bullying feesh

[thorn creek]

FK

[night sigil]

Keep coping

[livid lark]

naaahhhhh

[night sigil]

Frog*

[mighty tusk]

After stigmata, I can already clear ex06 with ease after that

[livid lark]

roland does it so why shouldnt we

[night sigil]

Lamia frog better

[thorn creek]

No…………..

[raw swift]

she's a frog?

[night sigil]

In her previous frame

Amphibian like features

[floral plover]

I wouldn't call her a frog since she still had a tail

[lilac vale]

which starter orb do I pick for wanshi?

[stoic rapids]

blue

[lilac vale]

thanks

[night sigil]

Tadpole

[livid lark]

I can see the headlines now:

"Lamia - relegated to filler DPS for dark team"

[floral plover]

Fair enough

[stoic rapids]

my one wish is. please let daren die before fish

[thorn creek]

No……………………………..

[floral plover]

The glow up was one of the best tho

[thorn creek]

https://tenor.com/view/tinder-my5n5-kermit-gif-24133413

[stoic rapids]

i cant take another year of daren. shes just gonna pull a rigor and live for a million years

[pearl solstice]

Wish lamia wasn't ascendant, but saved by skk

Then she would appear more often

[night sigil]

Dang that eye shadow and bleach was too much

[floral plover]

Even if Vera becomes the main dps
Lamía still has the advantage that her dmg is fast to do, unlike CW

[thorn creek]

YES

[livid lark]

she hasnt quite got to rose's level yet tho

rigor still the queen of being in meta the longest

4 years

[pearl solstice]

What glow up

[raw swift]

Lamia glow up

[thorn creek]

B4 she was playable

She was a boss

[pearl solstice]

She was cute no?

[night sigil]

Amphibian features

[lilac vale]

btw between luna, qu and wanshi cubs, which one is better to ss?

[livid lark]

uh

[thorn creek]

To some weird ppl

[livid lark]

not really?

[night sigil]

She's ok

[pearl solstice]

Do U only like her cuz she looks pretty now?

[livid lark]

wanshi cub

[pearl solstice]

Is that the love you have?

[raw swift]

uhh... Is she?

[vague nebula]

s+ rose used to be used by cn players for ppc with solacetune before ntr musician

[night sigil]

I still don't like her honestly

[turbid bridge]

Not Luna?

[livid lark]

wanshi cub works with glacio and ice

[stoic rapids]

is he using the edb or the atk skill for ss cub? i can never decide

[livid lark]

and hits hard

[thorn creek]

Nah cuz she grew more powerful and confident than b4

[turbid bridge]

True

[livid lark]

is the edb temporary?

[thorn creek]

And these guys don’t see it smh

[vague nebula]

[night sigil]

Fizz from league of legends

[livid lark]

i see a delicious donburi

[turbid bridge]

Yea but you can have it almost permanently no?

[thorn creek]

NO

[livid lark]

wait can you?

[raw swift]

I sure do love ntr patch

[stoic rapids]

ye

[floral plover]

I see sushi
A cute one tho

[pearl solstice]

Is cw still good

[vague nebula]

[thorn creek]

[night sigil]

It looks so good with soy sauce

[floral plover]

Unfortunately no

[pearl solstice]

Getting replaced?

[thorn creek]

Hopefully

[floral plover]

Yes but no but yes

[raw swift]

hopefully

[livid lark]

i do think the flat attack is better honestly since permanent > temporary buffs

but you can test

[shy bane]

Who gonna be in voucher up until pianissimo?

[night sigil]

Nah she got a free skin in jetavie patch

[thorn creek]

Balter and CW and Lilith

[livid lark]

lilith and wanshi

[floral plover]

Nanaknight has enough dmg where you would go 2amps instead of having CW on the team, unless you have CW at SSS

[shy bane]

Thank

[livid lark]

oh yea balter and cw as well

[turbid bridge]

Lasts 8 seconds on active skill cast, keep 1 active skill usage before swap out to activate on next swap in. Also he does 2 x 3p so that’s always immediate usage before he goes into core anyway

[pearl solstice]

WHAT

No main dps there?

Or U just use nanaknight as dps

[stoic rapids]

nana is the dps

[floral plover]

Nana is the main dps

[thorn creek]

Yes

[night sigil]

Nanaknight

[pearl solstice]

But isn't she the tank

[raw swift]

Nana is the main dps

[floral plover]

That does not matter

[thorn creek]

Roles doesn’t matter

[livid lark]

she is also the main dps

[stoic rapids]

also why 2 amps for solo nana over garnet with class resos?

[pearl solstice]

It sounds like nanaknight can do anything...

[thorn creek]

More of whoever’s newer

[night sigil]

Some tanks outdamages the dps

[pearl solstice]

Uncle?

[night sigil]

It all started with garnet

[glass bay]

I see fried fish head

[livid lark]

2 amps contribute more if it's not ppc

[pearl solstice]

I use him as dps rn

[floral plover]

Because Nana would still overwrite Garnet's shred iirc

[raw swift]

https://tenor.com/view/punishing-gray-raven-pgr-nanami-startrail-nanami-knight-nanami-pgr-gif-10150222441182588934

[stoic rapids]

oh????? okay

[flint pulsar]

Best rotation for my Wanshi guys?https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/848444655263940658/1345203524505436252/image.png?ex=67c3b1e8&is=67c26068&hm=995ffc9621e3db29f95aeacf253b8afd6d0e90aec55fb523498209ee79868ed0&

[night sigil]

Then uncle made a standard

[flint pulsar]

SS3.

[mighty tusk]

Cw where?

[livid lark]

basic or minmax rotation?

[slender aurora]

— First swap
3-ping -> hold red & release -> spam red and reload (with red) -> spam red to empty -> ult -> swap to Qukra
— Second rotation onwards
3-ping -> hold red & release -> hold basic attack until jump -> spam red and reload (with red) -> ult -> 3-ping twice -> hold red & release -> spam red until 12 bullets -> ult -> swap

[meager iris]

who?

[pearl solstice]

Nanami is unfair man

[floral plover]

[flint pulsar]

The best.

[mighty tusk]

Umless garnet is sss

[floral plover]

Oh really?
My bad then jsjs

[flint pulsar]

Ty.

[livid lark]

need to do 6 red first then swap off

once you come back in
1x 3p -> hold red + release -> 6 red -> screen ult ->
2x 3p -> hold red + release -> hold basic -> tap red until reload sound -> drone ult ->
2x 3p -> hold red + release -> 12 red -> screen ult -> swap off

[floral plover]

2 amps if not SSS Garnet
With Garnet if SSS

[turbid bridge]

Basically higher shred overrides

[flint pulsar]

Ty.

[livid lark]

thats basic rotation btw

[flint pulsar]

I will try all.

[turbid bridge]

Non-SSS garnet: 15%
SSS leap garnet: 35%
SS0 Nanaknight: 25%
SS3 Nanaknight: 35%
SSS Nanaknight: 45%

[night sigil]

Still relevant than veritrash

[mighty tusk]

If cw is not sss and garnet is, then she still lives somewhat

[vague nebula]

[raw swift]

[stoic rapids]

so if nana is sss then do 2 amps if cw not sss

[shy bane]

3 ults rota is only for ss3?

Kurai video is ss0 is it

[livid lark]

works for ss0 as well

[turbid bridge]

Garnet if harmo, 2 amps if not

[livid lark]

no his is basic

[shy bane]

Does sss changes rota

[livid lark]

somewhat yea

[pearl solstice]

Why use garnet? She is unhinged

[shy bane]

[pearl solstice]

[livid lark]

cos you have to note the cd reduction

[hidden relic]

Is there a guide for Derived From Matrix?

[livid lark]

cos there is no better light tank atm

[turbid bridge]

There’s a guide in pins

[stoic rapids]

so until the free cw copy (which will get me to SSS) i will do 3s nana garnet feral and then swap garnet for cw later

[pearl solstice]

hmm

i play global

no knight yet

[turbid bridge]

Yep works

[stoic rapids]

i'll take any time with vera

[turbid bridge]

Tank reso from garnet still helps a bit since Nanaknight goes sig reso

[livid lark]

dis whel talk in my family friendly meta chat

[pearl solstice]

so empy is the oldest rn

for meta units

[turbid bridge]

Wdym this channel is whaleplay-help now

[floral plover]

SSS Watanabe

[livid lark]

idk what you mean

[floral plover]

[livid lark]

scire first iirc

[pallid cypress]

should i get hanying cub or wait for pyroath cub?

[stoic rapids]

current or cn included?

[floral plover]

It is empy

[vague nebula]

still is a better character for what she provides than karen

[pearl solstice]

cn

[mighty tusk]

I remember you trying to match my score in fire IB

[livid lark]

did scire or empy come out first

[stoic rapids]

yes

[floral plover]

She was before and wasn't powercrept yet

[pallid cypress]

also does cub banner pity resets between patches?

[floral plover]

Empy

[turbid bridge]

Nope

[raw swift]

Empy came out first

[pearl solstice]

empy came out in c17

scire in c19

i think

[pallid cypress]

is pyroath cub really that good?

[stoic rapids]

what was that rumor about kamui getting a frame this year?

[livid lark]

ohh

[vague nebula]

[pearl solstice]

new feral when

[floral plover]

Please god

[mighty tusk]

Empy>capri>mech>scire>stigmata

[turbid bridge]

Everyone’s personal CUB is good, Pyroath is main dps for now in 2 teams so yea

[livid lark]

it's good

but you have to check if it's worth spending your tickets or BC for it

[stoic rapids]

and please let him creep daren. would be poetic i suppose. i can also take an empy or alisa creep as we dont have a male amp yet

[livid lark]

debunked lmao

those were fake

[turbid bridge]

Some fake “leaked” screenshot from Kuro

[stoic rapids]

naurrrrrrrrrrrr

[wispy robin]

you will get free cw before getting nana btw

[stoic rapids]

but kuro still owes us another male

[turbid bridge]

Oh is there no time gated missions like login?

[stoic rapids]

heh? how. free cw comes with ishy whos after nana

[floral plover]

Male amp would be so cool
At least it makes them live longer somewhat
It would be funny seeing Kamui as dark tank and Camu as dark attacker

[turbid bridge]

JP got ish and nana together

[wispy robin]

ish comes before nana

[turbid bridge]

Might be same for us

[stoic rapids]

what makes you think so

[turbid bridge]

It is so

[stoic rapids]

but cn got nana before ishy

[raw swift]

Kamui as an observer class

[livid lark]

wait what?

[turbid bridge]

Yea but JP is having nana+ ish right now

[wispy robin]

ish more hype = they made ish the main patch banner

[floral plover]

Patch notes on JP got Ish before Nana
Ish was day one, and Nana a week after

[vale raft]

Current Roadmap (as of Mar 01th 2025)

[stoic rapids]

see. nana before ishy

[livid lark]

yea nana was first but ishmael took the spotlight

[pearl solstice]

selena op?

[summer topaz]

dang you gotta use the basic selector now or next patch

[stoic rapids]

weird swap

[livid lark]

just another step up for physical and glacio meta

[turbid bridge]

It ain’t updated lmao, but JP patch is having ish banner right now before nana

[livid lark]

OP is a relative term

[turbid bridge]

Bascially ye

[stoic rapids]

oookay. well in that case i can have the 3s team rightaway. mafia cw skin will not go to waste

[turbid bridge]

Whale hour

[mighty tusk]

how I wish she was meta breaking like cw did on release

[raw swift]

ok whel

[frozen creek]

cw op

[mighty tusk]

but nah, they're prob reserving the meta breaking for new alpha frame

[stoic rapids]

wait. nana sss vs ishy sss?

[livid lark]

if they somehow manage to bring her back in the story

[stoic rapids]

nana right?

[livid lark]

nana always

she's meta in 4 teams lol

[stoic rapids]

figured. so nana sss ishy ss3 is what i can do. or i can skip cw skin and then shoot my shot on for ishy sss

[mighty tusk]

everyone returns except for a few antagonist iirc

[turbid bridge]

2

[flint pulsar]

@livid lark @slender aurora Worked thanks a lot guys! Wanshi is great, I used him for Hamlet.

[pearl solstice]

so i pull for both

and if i cant get nana i cry

[livid lark]

aether said 4 tho

[pearl solstice]

[turbid bridge]

He said she is potentially used in 3-4 teams

[pearl solstice]

thank god this game isnt 50 50

[mighty tusk]

burn, ion, lightning, I dont remember the last one

[livid lark]

nice

[turbid bridge]

Burn isn’t out yet

[livid lark]

ohhhhh

[turbid bridge]

Nihil pre-Ishmael

[wispy robin]

burn nana as wata replacement in fire

[livid lark]

did you play hi3 back in 2018?

[distant wren]

there is exactly 1 mission to log in 2 days, that's it

[mighty tusk]

that was short-lived

[turbid bridge]

Ooooh

[turbid bridge]

One patch

[barren plank]

Hw do you play LD in void? Or is it just the same as how you would play him in ice

[pearl solstice]

no

[turbid bridge]

Same as SSS ice team ye

[livid lark]

prob just basic 2 rot and swap off

[pearl solstice]

why

[livid lark]

that one didnt have 100% character rate up

and their version of memories was gacha as well

[wispy robin]

ngl tho looking at how quesolao cooked burn nana we might have to rethink the importance of wata now

[distant wren]

it's actually hilarious if she's really better
i might try later on in jp since both her and wata are ss0

[pearl solstice]

i played genshin

and i off rated 3 times

[mighty tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/sunnyfication-gif-20299408

[livid lark]

hi3's system was very much like pgr's

[barren plank]

Huh Hi3 has guaranteed S-rank

[pearl solstice]

so i actually like pgr gacha

[turbid bridge]

Ain’t no way but she’s way better than any other substitute fire tank not gonna lie

[livid lark]

not in 2018

[barren plank]

Wait what

[glass bay]

[turbid bridge]

At least can rotate which is what Pyroath really wants

[livid lark]

that got implemented later

had to resort to using a ranks for abyss

[wispy robin]

look and ss3 nana cooking ss0 wata

[mighty tusk]

but people WANT to skip nanaknight (also skipped wata because male) so....

[distant wren]

affix really should've had the same resistance value as their main attribute counterpart

[turbid bridge]

Ain’t no way

[distant wren]

i'm actually kinda pissed wata got hit by this

[raw swift]

Iirc, it used to be 50-50 no? In Hi3?

[turbid bridge]

What’s happening to fire

[livid lark]

yea that sounds correct

[mighty tusk]

skip wata fr now?

[pearl solstice]

im also glad the units in pgr dont get powercrept very fasy

fast

[wispy robin]

umbra affix heavily needed

[pearl solstice]

they can stay for quite some time

[livid lark]

hi3 powercrept very fast lol

[stoic rapids]

so even tho kamui rumor was debunked kuro still owes us another male for the year no? or did they count dmc for that.....

[raw swift]

yea... cuz I remember losing to the first herscher released

[livid lark]

ugh pls dont remind me

[glass bay]

Fk u mean m*le

[livid lark]

and black nucleus needing scire levels of invest

[glass bay]

We only pull for booba

[livid lark]

fk that sht

[turbid bridge]

Please keep slurs to a minimum

[glass bay]

Shut fk whel

[tulip spade]

boys if wanshu is running 4 pc chen harmo

does Qu run that still or harmo 2pc dawrin instead ?

[stoic rapids]

speak for yourself lol

[turbid bridge]

Both work

[glass bay]

[pearl solstice]

hey chill

no cursing

[livid lark]

4 chen works for qu also

[pearl solstice]

[stoic rapids]

i personally found more success with 2dw, but 4cjy has its merits to make the cjy uptime 100% between the two of them

[pearl solstice]

where is Feesh

[livid lark]

wdym

feesh is in a bowl in front of me

[pearl solstice]

u wait one day

lamia will be getting new frame

[night locust]

Why does their mood and stamina go down? Is this something I have to manage?

[pearl solstice]

and become the strongest

[turbid bridge]

Just do autopat whenever you’re online

[scarlet hill]

Hello, I just recently created a new acc ( again ), I played this game a year ago then stopped. I completely forgot the account and cannot retrieve it, so I just decided to create a new one and in this new account, I wanna correct all my mistakes by asking you guys what S rank character I should get. Also tips on playing would be so much appreciated

[worthy gulch]

uve been mean to them

[hazy sandal]

[distant wren]

nvm, found it

[turbid bridge]

This selector is mostly useless outside of early game, pick whoever you want. Check pins for beginner guides and always pull for new non-free S ranks

[scarlet hill]

Oh, okay thank you sm

[raw swift]

Tips? Just don't pull on Fate banner

[scarlet hill]

Maybe I'll pick a long range one, I once liked a long range character when I was playing the game in the past

[turbid bridge]

No problem, current S rank you want to pull is Hanying Solacetune in the themed 60 pity banner. The other S rank in this patch is Wanshi Lucid dreamer who you can get free from dorm dispatch shop

[raw swift]

Oh Veritas

[turbid bridge]

Uh yea we don’t do that here. You need element/attribute to do well in this game so you need to play all units

[scarlet hill]

She's like a psychopath girl that has a patch in her other eye, she's like so cool lmaoo

[turbid bridge]

Unless you’re casual then just do whatever you like

XXI lmao

[scarlet hill]

Ohh, thank you so much. I'm learning again

[livid lark]

【【战双】😡西西不汐汐 露西亚怒斥黑卡皮自选池 这三个女人绝对是来捣乱的！-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/tYbONCf

@turbid bridge

[mighty tusk]

I can't read

[scarlet hill]

Maybe I'll pick this and enjoy the game again, maybe I'll come back later if I need more help. Tysm guys^^

[livid lark]

lucia goes off about the 3 coating selector

[mighty tusk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYY-hSbSBwo&t=11s
damn, stigmata hits like a wet noodle compard to hanying

[distant wren]

okay crisis averted, my wata is safe

[flint pulsar]

Which is Pyroath best team or most used team in CN?

[turbid bridge]

炸死你

actual catchphrase

[mighty tusk]

epitaph-empy for fire

for ion, it's nanaknight-lilith

[livid lark]

ion probably

nanaknight, lilith, pyro

ion is busted

[flint pulsar]

So Daren is not generally used?

[mighty tusk]

used until lilith

[livid lark]

nanaknight took her spot lmao

cos shred and buffs carry over from base elements

[worthy gulch]

i started a week ish ago, got Epitaph from the beginner Base member target banner, then pulled for Hany like Ken said, then accumulated enough Dorm currency and Tokens for Wanshi Lucid who just released, picked up all their signitures too and cubs for Hany and Wanshi lucid, all this for less than 50 buckaroos which gets u all the BPs x2 and monthly Pass A. So you can technically have a working Fire, Phys and Ice team in a week ~ 10 days ish if you manage ur resources right, this includes getting all these characters to level 70, maxing their sig, their memories all upgrades and putting Resonances + hypertuning and also leveling the cubs a little bit but more importantly getting the 2 skills on the cubs up to 3/5

[opaque hemlock]

Should I get SS lamia or save skulls for Hanying

[flint pulsar]

So is not necessary to waste on an Electroconvergence build for her? (Daren)

[true pivot]

phat whel

[shy bane]

Holy yap

[livid lark]

you may want to wait for a bit before making that judgment

[mighty tusk]

hanying

[livid lark]

we still have some time before lilith even with the sync

[night locust]

The BP gives enough resources to get 3 signatures and cubs?

[livid lark]

offrate hell for weapons ends next patch

you can only offrate once after

[flint pulsar]

Alright, in case is necessary, she will still be used on Dark team right? So I can build her for SS3?

[livid lark]

ya

get the leap

it will make playing her smoother

you can rotate faster

[flint pulsar]

Will do then, thanks a lot.

[pine slate]

Leap Daren still doesn't trigger qtes

[analog coral]

Does daren leap give generic qol

[pine slate]

[turbid bridge]

Wait seriously?

[livid lark]

oh it doesnt?

[worthy gulch]

BP helped with getting Lucid via vouchers and the cubs, Sigs were all with farming the in-game one time BC rewards via doing events and story etc, Lucids Sig was also obtained with the one Recharge reward which gives a free 6 star wep selector

[pine slate]

Idk if I'm doing smth wrong but I'm just doing the normal rot

Swap in > hold basic

Qtes doesn't trigger, but matrix does

[hidden relic]

will crimson weave nightbreaker skin ever come back?

[pine slate]

Does leap have a new rot for dark?

[livid lark]

the brs one?

[hidden relic]

yes

[vale raft]

Karenina: Scire

Skill - SSS

Banishing Sunglow

Level 1 - Unlocked at SS3 Rank

Gains an extra 3-Ping chance triggered by pressing and holding Basic Attack to charge (up to three times). Upon the third 3-Ping, the corresponding Leap Attack will deal 400% more Base DMG, and Radiant Whirlwind will deal 75% more Base DMG. Upon casting Starshatter Horizon, Karenina: Scire will generate a 15s Thermal Field, dealing 75% Dark DMG once to targets entering the field and inflicting them with Chain Fusion that reduces Dark Resistance by 15% for 10s.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SSS Rank

When in the Anti-gravity status, Karenina: Scire deals 10% more Dark DMG. Dealing damage will reduce the target's Extra DMG Reduction by 5% for 8s. Triggering this effect again will renew its duration. Press and hold Basic Attack to start charging and immediately activate QTEs that are not in cooldown. Radiant Whirlwind's spin speed will automatically increase.

[turbid bridge]

OOOOOOHHHHHH

[livid lark]

it should be hold basic again once she's in the air and 3ping to slam

[turbid bridge]

@pine slate yea sorry SSS only

[pine slate]

[flint pulsar]

I was going to say, since I was reading the in game leap description.

[livid lark]

then no it's not coming back in the forseeable future

[night locust]

Wait, which 6 star weapon selector was this?

[ebon adder]

so for wz i go ayla> swap> snipe rot> drone rot>swap> qu hold ba ult> qu hold ba ult> swap to wanshi> rinse and repeat? my invest is 232.3 111 110 qu wanshi ayla

[livid lark]

pretty sure thats for ion/plasma

[ebon adder]

is this good?

[night locust]

The only free recharge weapon I got was from the first time purchase. Of the red sword

[pine slate]

No

[worthy gulch]

the one in Top Up -> Recharge -> Total Recharge

[livid lark]

swap off after the first snipe rot then do drone > snipe after each rotation

[pine slate]

U bullet ult on his opener, then u drone > bullet for the later swap ins

[ebon adder]

ohh okay

[carmine reef]

btw has anyone else noticed that you can triple qu qte

[ebon adder]

may i know why? also does drone rot do more damage or something?

[flint pulsar]

So is locked behind SSS for non ion / plasma? Damn.

[ebon adder]

yeah i noticed when you use wanshi bullet rot i can triple qte her

[livid lark]

uh which part

[carmine reef]

it's not about bullet rot

[flint pulsar]

QTE activation for all chara.

[carmine reef]

it's just cause qu and ayla qtes are both so damn fast

[livid lark]

oh then yea rip

[carmine reef]

that i guess the dv re-trigger window occurs twice

unironically it's actually really useful for the opener

[flint pulsar]

[pine slate]

Even if u ping kaleido qte first, qu qte still gets triggered twice

[scarlet hill]

Can I copy all of the things you did? :3

[night locust]

Oh I see it now. It’s 60-ish buck in total. Is that worth?

[carmine reef]

yeah

the triple qu qte lets me do up to wave 6 with wanshi's first ult

[river nymph]

guys is it worth it to use shard selectors to get sss pulse for the sticker?

[foggy ridge]

[livid lark]

not really

[river nymph]

[livid lark]

thats some whale action

[worthy gulch]

id say its worth because as someone else mentioned, next patch we will get the weapon pity system where if u lose the 80/20 once the next one will be guaranteed, so you can get a Sig now without the gamble

[foggy ridge]

for a sticker is wild ngl

[worthy gulch]

go for it! its been a very efficient and fast progress im super happy with the state of the account!

[livid lark]

OH WAIT IT'S XENO

[pine slate]

[livid lark]

yea in his case absolutely

[river nymph]

its so cute

[foggy ridge]

hard to tell wihtout the pink innit

[carmine reef]

friendly reminder that these messages were to xeno

[livid lark]

ya

[river nymph]

[flint pulsar]

In that case, getting SSS Daren is worth it with vouchers? I am broke in vouchers since I SSSd Echo recently.

[carmine reef]

you're right it is unrelated. get it out of here

[livid lark]

not really worth unless everyone else is 3s0

[river nymph]

[livid lark]

scire is kinda low priority rn

[pine slate]

No

[foggy ridge]

i just look to my left and see greay

[hazy sandal]

[flint pulsar]

My only missing SSS are Garnet and Empy.

From vouchers.

[zenith thorn]

hi lao

goated guide
took me 5 rewatch to understand

[livid lark]

just get nanaknight and the light tank issue is solved

for empy i still have ss0

[zenith thorn]

and some .75x speed too

[flint pulsar]

So maybe is worth to go for Daren SSS instead of Empy?

[mighty tusk]

doing that may make it easier for you to 600k primal projection ult ppc

[flint pulsar]

My Empy is also SS3.

[pine slate]

U got sss wanshi?

[hazy sandal]

Yeah. Normal response.

[vale raft]

This boss does not exist. Please try again.

[livid lark]

hmm maybe? empy upgrade is nice tho

[turbid bridge]

SSS Lilith > Empy > Scire in my opinion

[vale raft]

Primal Projection

Weakness: Corrosion (Dark)

Zone Type: EXPPC

Start Time: 5.17s

Difficulty: Hell

HP: 27,000,000
Super Armor: 0
Extra Damage Reduction: 0.0%
Defence: 1,500
Phys Resist: 0.0%
Fire Resist: 20.0%
Light Resist: 20.0%
Ice Resist: 20.0%
Dark Resist: 20.0%

[livid lark]

27mil

[mighty tusk]

we might need to add another name for primal

[livid lark]

such as?

[hazy sandal]

Meanwhile insane response :
how did he understand at a first sight

[pine slate]

What do we get from lilith's bc gacha
Specifically, do we get any event or wep tix?

[mighty tusk]

primal projection

[turbid bridge]

Kinda spoiler territory for newbies though

[mighty tusk]

I typed primal projection and didn't register

[turbid bridge]

The 80 pull banner?

[livid lark]

when has wanting names to be longer been a thing

[turbid bridge]

Oh wth I thought you mean ish

[flint pulsar]

Not sure if there will be enough Vouchers from now to Lilith patch to at least guarantee 2 SSS.

[mighty tusk]

that also works

[turbid bridge]

Yea I’m just listing the priority, for now SSS Wanshi first

[floral plover]

https://youtu.be/DE61yO6Us3c?si=Q-Nbit0gYkohDiBI

[pine slate]

ya

[floral plover]

it shows the rewards and like what you get

[turbid bridge]

3k event tickets, 1 Lilith copy and 550 coins
Outfit: 500
Weapon USB: 500

[flint pulsar]

Sadly can't waste more BC without bricking my account, F2P here.

[turbid bridge]

Oh wth definitely don’t use BC then. Just use voucher on Wanshi

[pine slate]

so its 13k cost

[flint pulsar]

When Vouchers for Wanshi will be added?

[turbid bridge]

Yeap

[turbid bridge]

It is added already

[pine slate]

alright how about the lightning team gacha selector

[flint pulsar]

In Global?