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Cottie Wata sweeps bro trust 🙌
those 2 words dont belong together

@woven haven i think you would like to see this
fr
Primordial zaza
aethers gonna murder someone while scrolling through that sheet
that is so funny
brooo hell yeah, Calch is low key my fav char design wise and ability wise in wuwa, i love the XYL + Calch QS team!!
king engine the goat frfr
quickwap all the waaaay!
lucia just subdps

I... am no longer afraid of Shakespeare! Ahh
what did you do my uncle wata !!
Yassified 
qte bot at 3s fr
Whats the difference brahh
no. 1 here as well!
rn in fire you use cottie, in void and with lucia you use shake
Backuplao so humble
ehh setsu needs to change this but difference with him is he doesnt claim to know SS very well while fury literally uploads wrong displays of gameplay and affirms its correct when it is not
lucia uses 4 cottie at ss0, wata uses 4 shakespeare not the other way around
So 2s3 use shakes?
yes
cottie in fire rn is also a sham which cer discovered
unless ur wata is lowly invested
Even in ppc?
idk about ppc
Shakes better in wz? 
yes 100%
I still dont really know how to rot with shakes
well thats the problem with people deciding when its better or not, the ones saying this cant play it properly : D aka fury
how much does luna need dlt
cottie in fire only if you have ss3 lee with shakes
well that still seems not better than wata having shakes
i think in a full ss0 team you should be doing shakes wata, if your fire team is any underinvested then also shakes
,
How to rot shakes 😭
since lee's off field qte is mostly during empy's rot
A lot
needs a lot, but once ish drops it will be much lower priority
if you have a lot of usbs use it, if have to choose prio lucia and hanying first
what weapon res will pyroath want
it's just that cottie lets everyone rot faster, which is good if your lee and empy are high invest
but for most people i do indeed think shakes is better
for me personally shakes is like 200-300k score over cottie
https://youtu.be/e5mhT5GFRfo?si=2mDYQF7uXsm61ywe u watch someone that actually can play the game
時間軸
0:00 2S渡邊打法
2:03 實戰
6:33 配置
BGM: 悲しいデュエル
https://youtu.be/OOT1gkZJjho?feature=shared
#punishinggrayraven #パニグレ
Both sheets got me confused 
people are blinded by fury cause of production, but production doesnt mean someone is good at the game - they just look fancy
its like a super model who is a raging nasty person
im itching to use lcw weapon as resonance material
well u can just ask here anyway its better than looking at fury's sheet

cause he will not do anything about his that much is for sure x)
who is this for
pyroath
wait does she actually go 4shake post 3s
Do we have to change wata reso to class when pyroath release?
what does he even mean by casual wz i wonder
between watanabe, echo, empy, kaleido and hanying whose sigs are a priority
wouldn't cottie be more comfort for casul
well imagine doing more rots than u are with ss0 now
If I’m bad at the game should I even attempt intensive battle do I get anything from just attempting it
compared to just doing one sw and ult rot then swapping, which is easier

lucia (and all new chars after her) > han > wata
If u can unlock it, that's already impressive enough
Attempting it once and call it a day is not a bad idea for additional 10 to 14 skulls per week
it's free skullz
just go in, do what you can, that's it
you get rewards even if you just hit the boss once and die
so should i pull for hanyings and wata rn
I unlocked it cuz my epitaph and Luna is sss im not good 
Alright sweet
Whatduhel
depends on how much you have rn
25ish pity
Oh additional 10-14 doesn’t seem bad
Unfortunately I prefer learning with written rot instead 😔
25k? then can pull safely ig
if just 25bc then save bruh 
paper isnt going to teach u anything in a video game
if u want to play better, u should watch someone who is better
i mean around 25 pity
It just normal cottie rot but u do 2 more blaze orb
Same... Too blind to see anything

is phoebe good?
That's pretty much about it
like seeing the combo is nice, but how do u execute it? xd u will still struggle until u see the peak of how fast some people can do it
oh didn't notice pity
well you will get 25k during this patch so should be fine if u do all the content
Must have dlt?
For Shakespeare yes
should i keep pulling for their weapons if i lose pity
aside from immediete suicide
Normal rotation wouldn't have enough orbs for consistent double rotation with Shakespeare
nah i would just wait next patch in that case cause they will introduce calibration
caliwhat
if you lose 80/20, next sig is 100%

Should I ss feral she seems to have a permanent spot on the lighting team right?
we've known this for a while, after all the words of wisdom state 'believe in my mald and experience or warrior paper'
well thats one thing he was right about xd

just his mald is not the one to believe
And how would I do that 
i still can't believe fury actually kiwi
only worth if u will have SSS cw
otherwise she will be a qte slave after nanami drops
That's the thing, ill never be as fast as them regardless cuz Im skill issued, and Im ok with that 
I have a feeling I will when I get the chance to sss her
she can actually be kicked off the team with SSS lilith as well
phys is kinda fun now ngl
Oh who’s getting kicked out if Lilith comes feral or cw?

is DLT needed for SS hanying with patton?
over void? 
ye
cw is kicked by nanami, feral by SSS lilith if u have luna
Hmm I see what’s the bot comman to see the upcoming character again
with luna you could just use ish as well
but should also remember PPC since u have limited uses
Yeah I have Luna she is sss
pretty sure he going for 3s ish
For lightning?
Luna Lilith Nanami?
yes
dv Luna
well SSS lilith specifically
Pairing ish n lilith is bad right, iirc
Lightning team isn’t even lightning anymore 
yeah that zaza could actually works
Damn cw really is getting kicked out and in planning to get her gacha skin 
shes usuable if SSS, but if not she is more harmful for lightning
better to let her watch
in what team?
void team?
i can try and record a quick vid for how i do wata shakes
it's funny because you can't even use that skin in the style mode
Ye void
Cucked 
it's bad if ishmael is above sss due to how her class works
but if she's ss,it works perfectly fine
If I get everyone you mentioned sss and cw is sss as well is cw still usable
Ohh
yes until lightning attacker comes
Unless new darktank arrive?
Which should be soon
What’s style mode
yep exactly
thats also the other issue is i think SSS feral is needed to beat out SSS ish + luna lmao
Damn
nanami is too strong compared to alpha
that's why ayla is the go to
dodging and parrying for score
they give you s+ cw for it, but u can't even apply skins there
just wait till there is a new alpha that doesnt suck
since the ice tank is wanshi + ayla has decent ein procc
kuro wont let their cash grab rot forever
Alright so I’ll just stick with feral ss then as a qte bot for now
If u have a way to show inputs it would be awesome 
better to just invest into nanami if u want a strong acc
Like where u tapping/pressing
@deft apex if this helps idk but below sss will be a little slower, should still have time for 5stack
ah nah idk how to do that 💀
Damn 
why does lcw have such cool skins but dogshit gameplay
cash cow
yeye
make lamia the cash cow 
cw's gameplay is cool but she is old so she doesnt perform well anymore
to lure in newbies and make dat moolah off a garbo unit
her peak is over
Why do u already start with full energy 
because motivation ahh
Wtf
She already has her gacha skin tho
Make selena the cash cow
i swap in once before to have orbs in test
make more
I’m one of those people who fell for her gacha skin
keep her dead
basically just dodge + 3p and do 5 stack the trick isnt in the energy
join my zaza
2cot 2ein wata + 4dv 4hake ish 
Make nanami cash cow🙏
her kit is just kinda spam basic and a bunch of qol
just watch the Taiwan laos video he showed inputs in the video, slowed down the gameplay like what else do ya need 😭
But i need wata rot for fire 😭
I like bianca and crimson weaves character models the best and then I find out they are getting replaced soon 
can agree, i am having a much better time with new phys atm. except, i do not like mob zone still.
all i remember is after ult2 + orb pings + ult1, do 3p + dodge twice
I even bought their red and white skins last patch
most of the time i cant remember what form im in while using lcw 
the rest falls into place
I genuinely have no clue what Im watching, im sorry for wasting your time 
Me too, with how i see cw is barely usable imma just target her clone wedding coating

Look at the red/blue sword icon bru
https://youtu.be/69xaZH8IZQQ?si=tRhN9utTJM6qS_Jk she was definitely more than just spamming
Weather - Alpha | Patch - Hanying: Zitherwoe
Highest SS Lightning Score in Hero with full SS invest, tho it is possible to go even higher.
I knew a score like this could be doable since on TW, my 1 weapon resonance lightning team could peak at around 2.2mil in this same patch, mob & weather condition C:
Peak SS gaming : D Thanks for watching fri...
Or her orbs
i remember people were crying a lot on what to do when she released xD
Empy?
who invited liv 💔
She’s one of the least complicated chars now
feral didnt exist then
Liv lux
lux is garbage
did clash refleciton get harder i for some reason keep getting killed by the final boss despite ive gotten all achievements before
whos the final boss this week
Ok I am so confused about shakes rot now after that video 
lamia
what in particular
i didn't recall CR being this hard==
like i had to be perfect to actually clear it this time it seems
Ah
Like how are u generating so many blaze orbs
Lamia
every hit is basically vital
One shot bug
weaving basic attacks

idk theres nothing special there
oh its a bug?
Like 3 instantly????
U do 1 rotation only for Shakespeare rot, swap to hyper/Luna and continue 2 rotation afterwards
that can only happen from incoming attack
That's how u get orb for more blaze
remember sss gets +1 blaze with parry if thats what youre talking about
OH
well SS can look like that as well but ye needs incoming attack
To any doubt
Ult spam her 
i mean did they actually increase the difficulty or is it a bug?
hanying 4 sig 2 cot right
I don't think they increased the difficulty or hp
But Lamia does do a lot of dmg
ehats the difference between high and low power zone in cr
so all i need to do is attempt 2 stages for the 10 skulls and i can just leave this alone i dont want to sweat
Try all, it count 2 highest score
https://youtu.be/Yu0MrdZLbxA?si=Okjf21OLucKTIIs6 @distant wren @zenith kernel @pine slate @digital moat
double rot double rot double rot double rot double rot double rotdouble rotdouble rot double rot double rot double rot
is it fine if i struggle with norman as a relatively new player

Returning player here, only actual units I have are SS Veritas, S Laurel and Alpha (all with sigs), I got told to pull Epitaph and Hanying but should I use selector for tenebrion or Rosetta instead?
worrydalao
normal
it doesn't really matters,those selector are outdated so none of them bring significant changes
having no chars to use sucks so much 
only that you choose tonitrus as a weapon on the weapon selector
yes
Is the selector good for anything
no
sooooooooooooo, hanying at base s is just actually unusable?
I could rank up Laurel for free dps?
pnope nope nnope
don't bother ranking up old units
Bro I saw an issue but wanted to confirm with some fixing
rank up your new units,hanying and epitaph
oh was it the lucia thing
cryoo
【【战双】2S0莎比小露2S3阿呆渡边3S极昼英雄火区581W-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/YJiDCFP
initially my ref for shakes lucia and adolf wata was this vid
potential base s hanying rot?
crippled
luckily for you,@dapper skiff does have crippled Investment guide
The selector doesn’t have those 😭 obv
shes like so down below my ss priority list
I wasn’t adding that without any ref based but
I have to make do for now and save
hurrah
..duh?
i mean when you get those 2 units,ranks them up,else don't bother ranking up old units
qu>wanshi ss3> hanying> karen
Aren’t they both tanks 💀 I still need a dps
Yeah apparently shakes lucia does less score compared with 4dolf
class doesn't dictate dpses
ye he says it in descrip too
they are still the dpses of their correspondence element
oh this is also my dalao
especially those 2
welcome to pgr, here, tanks are dpses 70% of the time
but i think he wasnt as good at this patch ig
Wild
Yes
cause his ice is insane
Research was ongoing at that moment
ye or that too
I was too early to add

nah it happens, but u arent like fury who goes uploading a video like THIS IS THE BUILD GUYS
it's like a cycle, for a year tanks lead, then the next year attackers lead, then the next tanks lead again
wow hanying base s is actually inoperable what
idm someone makes mistake thats human or its like me saying SSS character uses this when in reality im not exactly sure, it can happen
like even qu and lamia still function
but hanying isss
ok maybe wanshi ss3 can wait
but imagine i go play SSS acc, use wrong stuff without proper investigation first then upload and preach - like that i have issues with
I guess… I was more high ego state
thats why i havent uploaded another ice yet cause it must be optimal compared to last one
What does hanying ss do again 
i mean mistakes are fine
but confidently presenting the said mistake and not admitting even after being called out is something else
Lmao
wtf so your stacks just disapear if you take too long
MY DALAO IS SO CONFIDENT:DALAO:
ye but u do this while knowing for sure xD
Wings and Petals
Casting Signature - Flying Leafpoint or Signature - Moon Chill will activate all available QTEs.
Gains 15 Sonority immediately upon entering and 3 Signal Orbs after casting the Harmonic Orb. While consecutively casting Jade Bloom without Sonority, uses 3 Signal Orbs for an equivalent consumption of Sonority. The Base DMG of Signature - Moon Chill increases by 100%. The Piercing Blow effect granted by Hanying: Solacetune increases by 20%.
allows her to play the game ig
I feel like pulling more is sss3 hanying impactful?
LMAO
that one i cant help with
Significant for some breakpoints.
but u asked at a good time ig xd
dalao
I see thank you
past sss the next useful points are ss3 and ss6 but they are usually just damage so if you wanna whale then whale my bruva, do ask specifically for eachcharacter tho
now kick my ass
tho i think its possible to mald the last balter ult
i had to be weird on that one royal guard wave, think it was 11
dodge matrix makes me feel sick in phys
Haha yea, tho not sure i have time to mald anymore today
float mald is also real
Yeah I know I just have an itch to pull sometimes and new characters come out like every 30 days so sometimes it’s just a long time but at the same time I don’t want to waste money on something stupid
is there any way to fix the energy issue without trying to trigger matrix at base s hanying 
fair fair
Is it like a 20% dmg increase at least?
like i tap ult twice but dont have energy to ult so they just..... disapear
oh MUCH more than that
From sss to sss3 for hanying?
like 40%> increases to parts of their kit
base S will need to use cottie
we can check here
but obviously u are going to SS so thats not ideal
Wings and Petals
Casting Signature - Flying Leafpoint or Signature - Moon Chill will activate all available QTEs.
Gains 15 Sonority immediately upon entering and 3 Signal Orbs after casting the Harmonic Orb. While consecutively casting Jade Bloom without Sonority, uses 3 Signal Orbs for an equivalent consumption of Sonority. The Base DMG of Signature - Moon Chill increases by 100%. The Piercing Blow effect granted by Hanying: Solacetune increases by 20%.
As for the one who went play through all ranks sss0 or above for some time with wata and hanying
SSS3 hanying is more better enhancement then SSS3 Ojisan.
so ie just deal with it, focusing on S rotation is just waste of ur time since SS will be wildly diff

Which was pretty surprising.
and its free so no point worrying about minmaxing S
Nice I appreciate it if I get bored I’ll go for sss3 hanying then
wai what's the command for s+
I think if you care about PPC sss3 will be nice since your sig dmg is a larger % of total in a short fight but they are all so a little dmg
s5 is a bit more worth to take for spins but S0 is just not worth it
s+
4.0
Oh hold up how many more dupes is it from sss to sss3 
every S rank
18*3
Perched Phoenix
Extra DMG of Signature - Flying Leafpoint and Signature - Moon Chill increases by 30%.
Extra DMG of Ethereal Symphony, Harmonic Orb, and Signal Orb Skill increases by 30%.
Extra DMG of Jade Bloom and Ringing increases by 30%.
oh
3 dupes
i dont mean not worth it as in its not worth to pull
oh wait im stupid
2 dupes
30% increase
its not worth to waste time malding half of the character when their SS is free, just be patient
54 shards (18 per step )
Hmm very interesting I’ll keep that in mind
1 dupe = 30
I mean at that point you will be using I believe darwin and doing so much instant dmg it´ll be kinda fun hehe
How good is Wanshi's Sss3?
- i am rn and still not even close to ulting
, 2. does she not use cottie at ss0? i thought ss3 was where she switched to patton, 3. im gonna be stuck at base s for a while cause im just starting to ss0 qu so i gotta work something out
Freestyle pgr 
no that is misinformation, ss0 can also use patton but its harder to use effeciently

patton is harder,but higher ceilings
cottie is easier,but lower ceilings
damnit 2b
after u ss qu u can go to ultimate ppc for one weak and get another SS from outlier achievements which is easy
that's how i like to see it
poor SS players always mislead I feel bad 😦
noted, so like wata and shakes
What ceiling
the floor
well its not casual friendly tbh, it is easier with dlt on her weapon
look up
2 dupes for 30% dmg increase I don’t think that’s good value hmm
you're really nice but like im not a newbie ive been here for a while 
i know
with alotta slacc
ahh wrong @ mb
terrible value Lol ;3 always SSS every char vs going past it at least now as fellow 🐳
so if u swap to han, do 6 r + green, u dont have enough to ult?
im not a casual 
Alright I’ll take your advice I’ll just use those pulls to sss other characters
yea? still testing this so might be wrong but rn my win rate is 50/50
you have time too her banner wont go anywhere
send video that helped with the other guy
May I ask whether glb has ‘butterfly effect’ bug rn
Okay how tf is everyone's Hanying doing dmg but mine
blank!
i dont believe when peole say they are doing stuff anymore cause in reality thats also misinfo
some of the time
Do I put her as a leader or some sht
Wave 5 ‘vanishes’
duh??#
Damn is hanying that hard to learn I have her sss but I still haven’t actually played with her
u delay each strike?
Which ytber does sss tutorials
what the hell
wtf is that
empress maybe
her cub just nuked that wave how the hek
Alright thanks
LMAO i cant even one rot swap with hanying she doesnt have enough orbs
s+ cub gap
man base s is unusable huh
you need to basic too
ah i think the issue was i kept not hitting the harmonised orb
i will die of laughter if its tied to s+ cub specifically xD
i think
wonder what causes that, thats super weird
BA weaving my beloved
do qte bots typically need sig
Depends, but not normally.
u should be able to do one rotation, two will be impossible
Its a homework
I won’t tell u answer
😭

,

i hated homework
is single rot start for han more ideal? or is it rank specific
she is easy to play at high invest but like Luna, you cannot miss ping, ping outs or mix up tap vs hold ults. The new chars seem to favor 'reset early and often mechanics.' Watch empress vid but her rotation is constant its just you get the qol of ss3 and must be faster at sss
Yes coz of reso and harmo
alr ba weaving after ult 1 doesnt work cause core passive guage
i can imagine with SSS balt it wouldnt be bad, or with SSS han
Single rot at first appearance

hey setsu did u know abt this build 🐴
hmmm I will try myself ig, all the good vids ive seen have done double rots since the start
does that actually work for IB/onslaight I was thinking about it for Fire team
low on priority
but this is also with SS
oh does matrix give hanying more white orbs
wwwwwwwwwww
#pgr #pgr_cn #战双帕弥什 #パニグレ #punishing_gray_raven #퍼니싱그레이레이븐
whats wrong with it
strat formulating
??????
well it counts as a 3p for the white orb if that makes sense
holup would luna convert bathlon if she herself is sporting it
yes
No
aw fk yea
Can u send me the link for the context
guy got 550w with ss0 luna ish with that
alright so, matrix trigger is the key
oh no luna isnt already get off memory treatment is she
Wtf is this sht
I will directly ask him

i will check zoe's acc on tw next round
usually they play very well and dont mess up their builds
Cooking Magma time
i have the worst void team to cook that dish with
i would guess its same situation as lamia and lilith
sss ish ss0 luna 5head
@deft apex ok check this
https://stream.new/v/nRICqdcIitXLfVqD3y01pS7Al003MF7spbtjtHKvF3FZY
i tried to do shake wata rot as slow as possible, you should be able to follow it
honestly just spam it for few hrs in trial zone and till u can do it by reflexes tbh 
actually maybe that makes it better

high equal rank luna + ish / lamia + lilith
double cottie
then ig unbalanced rank slaps lower rank one with 4shred or 2cottie 2eins
ok ill cook
not very amused though
Gameplay help became a kitchen wha
She could be versatile
what is this abomination
i really dont like no cottie luna tho

thats literally what pulse is for
tank set luna???


You changed your name
MY BABY WHAT DID THEY DO TO U
thats what he says about it in descrip
Cooking G36
She changed her role :D
My personality shifts like water
that doesnt look fun
Luna saw you like wanhsi so she became tank too
for hanying cub active do i use moonstroll or solitary crane??
....
im glad our malding community is still going strong
holy sht it's 2am
Am I blind or that text
thats CN's community xdd
ye sorry its from bili, i cant click on see more
does no one know ?
guys this is TOO SUS XD
the left side one
Damage, Crowd Control
After pinging a total of 6 basic Signal Orbs, the CUB button will become available. After casting, Dreamwing will attack with an energy wave, applying Rigidity to nearby enemies, dealing 250% DMG 6 times.
Rigidity: Immobilizes the enemy for 2s.
After pinging a total of 6 basic Signal Orbs, the CUB button will become available. After casting, Dreamwing will fly toward the target then crash into the ground, dealing 450% Physical DMG 4 times.
S0 scire or SSS+ decryptor better DPS
FBI open up
s0 scire is a qte slave
non cottie luna is ass
I'm gonna throw up
Worth spending vouchers to SS3/SSS or no
only if u are buying BP otherwise no
tysm!!
Thank you 
yeah im probably buying, and i dont really wanna buy anyth else since garnet will be outclassed really soon
wanshi is also important to SSS before her imo, so is alisa too
But wouldnt it be better to just leave scire as "qte slave" and wait for jetavie
lilith as well
if u arent high spender then its better to forget the old chars
and focus on the new ones
jetavie doesn’t do anything
Does Alisa Echo work better with her own cub or with deer cub for Hanying?
is her dps worse than scire lol
Ty, I’ll focus on getting deer cub then
???
scire is there for her shred utility
jetavie is an attacker with no utility
Youdnideally have hanying and bianca use their signature cubs and have alisa hold the a rank physical cub if you don't have her sig cub
deer cub for hanying
her sig cub is unfortunately really bad for her
even later post leap she wants it even less
use lingya rather on alisa
hanying needs the extra orb from the cub skill it has
Something to note in pgr
An attackers value is purely in damage
The.moment they don't deal as much damsge as the rest they arent even useful as a qte slave
Which is why attackers usually completely outshine everyone else at launch
So an a rank attacker
Eeehhhhh is only useful in an a rank team
support should always use lingya if their focus is not dealing damage
Soo im new and got like 2k black card i wanna pull once before i sleep but i have no idea which banner to pull from
Wait
- That's genius
- I thought the extra orb was for the carrier
N O
I will make her do something
Oh no let me clarify
My only dark units are scire,decryptor
My plan rn ia to just wait for jetavie and use her as dps instead of spending vouchers to SS3/SSS scire for dps, since I dont have a full dark team anyway + i have higher prio units to SSS
🍆
no Dx
The themed arrival banner for the latest s rank should do ´ ▽ ` )ノ
That's
Weird
But
Awesome
not that dark area 
the lady with the guitar?
how does deer work again
Dark web dating with jetavie
Yeoyep
She's super strong and we advice getting her 
3p on holder gives next char to enter field 1x blue orb
Wuts this
if u have that skill equipped
yeah but jetavie probably free SSS+ right? Im sure SSS+ jetavie will do more damage than S0 scire or even SS since ill be trying to SSS other units first
On the bottom i mean
If you're not feeling like her there's the beginner banner where you can select watanabe: epitaph. But we wouldn't advise you use your BC there
ah yes the "how to fix veritas" cub now i remember
by then we will have lilith who deals more damage than both of them combined
Oh is this across like all teams?
what's the max discounted price in voucher exchange shop?
and lilith literally gets her cub, weapon + herself free
Damage
Maybe?
Issue is as a qte bot
Karen has value as a tank
A tank that weakens the enemies up for the actual dps to bonk
So whole jetavie could(maybe) hit 4 times as hard as Karen
Karen's hit will make the dps hit twice as hard(not literally but just to put it into perspective for ypu)
so pls listen, jetavie is not meant to be a main dps for the team - A ranks will always be sideline characters that is just the nature of the game
doesnt mean u cant enjoy them in other content from ppc and wz
Right i forgot about that LOL
if u dont worry about score or are casual, do as u like but be aware the game can be more difficult cause of poor decision making
Except teddy who's more useful than selena when she's below sss mwehehehe
so at that point could I run lilith+teddy+karen?
sincd i literally have no other dark units 
No you wouldn't need Teddy since lilith is also a support
still worse then off elemental amp with resonance xd
But since you have no others
Then
Sure why not
no lilith would be the dps lol i meant decryptor as qte bot
Just not an attacker
A tank and support each have memories they can utilise evem as a qte bot
An attacker
Not as much
That would work!
Can supports even support an amp 
teddy is nice to have if you have no other amp to use
i wonder tho if jeta would be swappable with lilith like once in few rots if no lamia since lilith solo is pretty scuffed afaic
so is the main difference just having to wait for luna to finish her drop down hold BA outside ult?
Would double tank qte bot work in that scenario
will see in beta
just use 2support 1tank comp
yea abt that 
2nd amp holds 4dv2guin
Oh alright thanks
well after beta* sorry
tank use shred set
Even then wouldn't it be more useful to have teddy instead of jetavie for stuff like guin
why ryr, what's flashing mark?
isnt eins better than guin
that's what that dude wrote in description
i think hes refering to ishmael
tank already holds ein
but not sure
Ah alr
are empyrea,scire, feral and kaleido still worth getting to ss with ppc skulls?
Eins is better but wins typically goes to the tank or anyone else
But if you have no one else Einstein can go to
I think you can gice it to your support?
ye must be cause ryr
no
Einstein can be held by anyone
Guin
Just the support
does anyone have bili acc to copy entire description
is it messed up that i skip all story? got no clue whats going on
how are you gonna know whats going on if youre skipping story
damn not even feral, guess i shoul just use them to get ss alisa then? or just save for wanshi
it is 
but cba with visual novel stuff
oh looking at the upload date it's pre-bug fixed ishmael ss3
Yes
You will explode in 2 days if you don't go back and re-read it
google chrome is just translating the page for me
ahahahaha
I assume priority for using voucher to SSS would be echo -> kaleido -> empy (?)
nah i did the same theres a youtuberwho does a decent job of summarizing it
yea google tl is pretty goofy 
yea it makes sense since pre lilith patch ish was "buggy"
then why are you asking about story 
still can make sense of it tho
whats his name?
better than reading chinese which i cant udnerstand at all
We've got story summaries all around if the Vn format ain't your thing ´ ▽ ` )ノ. Maybe using that for an idea of everything would help
but eh i'll wait for ppl to cook
to see if anyone here agrees with it to justify my intentions lmao

so hes only refering to ish here nothing abt luna?
will defo give this a try! love falling alseep to lore vids
shred mem on luna def needs careful qte management tho
well at least ur honest about that lmao
hanying cub worth getting?
tho this is like 90% of gacha players in a nutshell
Is this correct 
if this was a character I'll stop being f2p 😭
where can i see all stars ensnared ahcievements
Tf its real blue rose
especially ones who are new in these games
This community is so sweaty I love and hate it
prolly, yeah
"bugged" ish on her patch could do a really quick red yellow red
how far does 90 shards take you from base s rank
wanshi
after that idk 
Is this a real memory. I feel like I'd remember seeing this somewhere
do yall know if this is paused during tlc?
Wanshi in front or behind echo
most priority
yea i wonder if it will be abusable on jp
knowing kuro it most likely will be so will have to learn that zaza somehow..
Wait
LMAO
They put blue rose in the tutorial?
This the first time i saw blue rose in game LMAO
So wanshi > echo > cow > empy
Yea
this memory's staying with me forever XD
Help me xenolao
we had alpha weather this rot for nana btw
LMAOOO
Only in lumi leap trial
no idea if it affects ss0 tho 
imagine that for solo nana 💀
hasn't there always be blue rose in lumi leap
well bro typed torturous there for a reason 
Not before
DAMN
idr sht been 2 year since last touched lumi leap class
Omg physical actually doesn't feel annoying now
.like I get to not force a third rot with bianca now
We didnt have blue rose in trial on first release of the leap
i didnt even retry, but i think we might have that the whole damn patch now
every lightning rotation gonna be painful for no reason this patch now
Nah, it was normal alpha before iirc
So it's In the game but simply hidden from us
:lmao:
Is this worth doing
yes
he said ss6 ish in desc
Even alpha leap animation
yes
i initially watched wuwas story properly but then started skipping everything then rewatch it on YT on x2 speed, feels much better for me, esp since wuwa story is very hello kitty hold hands type of thing, as someone who mainly enjoyes stuff like Berserk or just adult seinen content, wuwa story is really not it for me
What give
is hanying's rotation unlimited? can only do 1 and swap out :/
it's been in the game files since launch
Wait, wtf? Nana needs 3*3 + yellow
That weather doesn't work on nana
though i'm getting ss3 ish on glb anyway lol
Lmao
permanent bonuses to all of your units
free skill increase
even if some of them are useless, it's still free
well its a gacha game story, shouldnt expect too much
the game is focused on gameplay and boss fights
know how many shars you will need from s rank?
so that vid wasn't actual full ss0
what a fraud
but usually the gacha that need a lot of work on the game, doesnt have the best story ever Dx
this game is focused on not playing the game as much as possible
s to what? ss3?
57 if that's the case
nah sss
120
damn im 30 whole frags down
yea i think ss3 ish is the main reason of shred mem luna, double ss0 prolly no point
so 4 copies + 30 shards from ppc skulls
Very much so!
There are 2 sections
Border pact and sequence pact
Birder pact
Upon clearing a stage
Allows you to station someone at the stage
Raising all your units' level on the respective skill by one(red orb. Blue orb. Ult. Core passives. Etc)
Allowing you to raise the entire skill tree of all your units by a level upon completion
Sequence pact is a bit more worth it and a bit harder
Where after clearing the stage and stationing someone
For every jypertuned memory correspinding with the slot number
A 1% extra damage increase
Doesn't seem like alot but when fully cleared that's a 12% extra damage increase for a fully hypertuned unit
Awesome if you're really into ecery last drop of power
yeah totally, which is why i dont mind the story being a slog sometimes, gameplay makes up for it. tho i do wish there was a gacha game that is super dark, even more so than PGR, R18 despair and sadness type of thing. i heard arknights might be the closest in that regard but that games gameplay looks so ass
Holy wall of text
hmmm duet night abyss kinda seems like this
Read 17

my plan was 30 from ppc and 60 from vouchers
oh you're talking wanshi?
Actually no read cinder burns
tho the story itself is kinda weird and hard to follow but its super dark
Wait this actually goes on???!
kinda reminds me of code vein mixed with warframe actually
if you can get past the reading aspect of pgr you will definitely enjoy it
actually, read everything
Then you can see its very limited ´ ▽ ` )ノ
Even at proper invest I'm pretty sure she can only do 2 rots and then dip
pgr story actually goes that direction pretty often lol
the story is really good overal just early first 8 charpter are straight up garbo and you can skip those
how to grt all stars ensnared ahcievements
oh well... i'm glad im not the only one that's experiencing it
Hanying asmr where
that sounds super interesting!
soon :D
What investment is your hanying?
We'll get through this together and be delivered by our Lord and savior wanshi
im dyslexic af, so slow at reading its not even funny 😄
Ohhh
Yea I don't think I can advise continuing much if you've got issues reading cause sometimes it can get BIBLICAL
right now, it's just S+sig
lmao xD alright im gonna get a summary of first 8 chapters then actually start to read some of it to see how i feel haha
So wealthy
I'm at s +5*
In all fairness I didn't think I'd get the girl
I'm up to date with the Meta at last hurrah
should i try for her sig or save? i also want pyroath n nanami plus weapons
i'm f2p, and lost the sig once. so i'm not as fortunate as you think i am XD
if you want to see what pgr story can be like, go to the interludes and read vera and n21 stories
they are really short but actually good
"Should I pull" with TWENTYFIVETHOUSAND bc 💔
Kimika being based
will do so when i unlock interlude!
yea you look like you have enough
YEA YOULL BE FINE @misty narwhal
i mean im assuming im getting more with the upcomjng patches
unless u mean i have a lot 
oh cool i didnt know i was loaded
MAMBON I GOT HANYING AFTERALL THE POWER OF GAMBLING WOOO

i did get hanying early ❤️ saved my life
It's all a game of luck
I got hanying in 40 pulls and got her again in 20 so ss3 in 60 pulls
tbh you got a lot of bc, should be able to afford all the sigs
especially if you will go skip ish on launch route and get her from standard reset
Is that viable
To put into perspective
With the rate of synch
And assuming you already have hanying which duh
You could get both hanyings and wanshi's sig right now(except technically wanshi's sig isn't available yet) and still be stacked by the time lucia comes out
I'll do it 
its official im pulling on fate next time
Holy shr I did not think of that
It was on themed
very cool ty everyone
Holup with synch would she be on standard off rip?
She'd be on standard next patch probably
If so free fuggin s rank 
oh... guess i will stick to themed
Fk
themed is the guaranteed 60 one rii
Assuming we keep going double its nanami ishmael and then u can pull on lilith selena
hi, is worth/mandatory ss alysa echo atm? i have her sig but still S
On one hand
Idk if I can't wait a whole patch
On the other
It's a free 15k bc I can save up and whale* a little
Ss through vouchers if you're using your pain cage skulls for someone else ´ ▽ ` )ノ
But if you've got hanying and bianca then I think you can afford to put it off a little
yeah i can save some vouchers after wanshi
Yepyep
i have both
I'm betting it'll be tripple on lucias patch with lucis yata nanami
Cause A ranks are thrown in as freebies
Will full Arank lightning team perform better than full SS nihil team in lightning warzone
Nope double patch
@frail hinge ty
Check kr our schedule would be likely the same as kr
double paid s rank patch exists
tripple SSA patches exist
So like
Did kr release a schedule?
Beyond wanshi hanying?
i already miss the triple skull rewards :/
SAME
Not yet
Alisa is the 1st priority for harmony
Man I'm gonna throw a fit when synch ends

Kurai I was told you've got some cripple hanyinf rots can I get some
Warzone?
Yea probably
Anywhere else? No

Fun fact go8ng off element fir warzone was a big thing before
So big that
Kuro nerfed it so badly that it's not even feasible anymore 😭
zamn, u didn't play on triple patch?
your fault for not getting into the game sooner, you will now pay your soul to kuso games 
I miss getting into leader with my lightning team soloing. Both dark and physical 😔
i did. but I have so much characters that needs SS
Same.

My ss pipeline is clogged
After qu is hanying then wanshi then finally finishing alisa then karen
ahh the feeling of being skullbroke
I escaped it once but went on. Hiatus and back to skullbrokeness
Gonna take a while to claw myself out of poverty
Ppl struggling with skulls economy?
ok obasan
LMAO

I gotta SS epitaph, and the 3 amps I got
I dont
ok whel
help
me neither i have 2.5k and nothing to do with them 
Chen ji yuan or something like that.. these CN names are hard to remember
quick Q friends, if im pulling Wata, why pick Bridget as A rank choice?
for the booba

she can also carry Eins 
which does 15% debuff to enemies (but needs to be same element as your dps)

i mean...
well, one of them is free
the luxury of being unemployed
Is dark and nihil considered elemental dmg?
yes.. but why are you asking?
Because I was looking through memory and didn’t know what to put on teddy
why you stop mid sentence man 😦
fyi teddy does no nihil dmg
Where are you pulling wata again
just slap on bathlon and call it a day 
For stat priority, is EDB% better than Phys Dmg %?
Yes
koko dayo
Oh so that's why Stigmata harmonizes Signa and not Chang Wuzi
Do you have Luna Oblivion at least
Don’t have that yet.
i dont even know who that is
yeah. EDB is the rarest buff so does not get diluted easily
and it applies to all elements/types
there are like 1 billion pins
Physical dmg bonuses are often already diluted with most of buffs sucks memories and support buffs
this genuinely gave me flashbacks to is3

It's also because just a better multiplier in general
actually that's EDR shred


also its not entirely true that EDB is rare
oh right. EDR is the rarest, my bad
that's a lie kuro is spreading
you mean the devs themselves?
that one is not on a pinned message
Oh got it, thank you
half of the time when a weapon or memory says "doubles base dmg"
it means +100% EDB for that move ingame
ooo she is hella cool,
should i do the pull?
go ahead
Doesn't blue target banner get reset soon?
help i can not find this on the pinned messages at all
wanshi is one of the rare frames with no inherent EDB in kit until SSS3
ishmael patch not rn
Sss qu would be overkill if I’m planning to get sss wanshi for 600k in ice ppc right
Except apparently this is never used
ohhhh wow didnt know that. thanks!
why did u ask if i have her atleast tho?
its not ON THE PINS
its on lucia alt release right?
unless I make mistakes in rot 
its not consistent either so good luck
ohh
who?
Kuro moment 
i went with 21 cuz shes a savage
someone please help its not on the pins
What is extra damage anyway
21 maybe... but tbh none of them are game changing
Man who do I use my S rank shards on (from BP) that only go up to Garnet LOL
so should i do it or not?
My only useful person is Tenebrion from that list since I don't have Daren and don't plan to invest in her (why is she so investment heavy)
ty
Tsundere issues
is this the blue target thats getting a reset?
no don't
he's genuinely ass to use
just stick with XXI
Keep going
Seriously Tenebrion is worse than an A rank
LOL fr?
I literally screencapped it in the pins
yeah.. but i cant remember which patch
ew
Otherwise I have S Capri and S Tene
ishmael apperently
Might as well be using SSS+ Teddy in place of S Capri?
Bro wants to spend 30 minutes malding in chat instead of scrolling the pins
your dark team can keep crying then
both useless
What is extra damage
Fr fr
oh is see it thank you

because there is alot of pins its a bit overwelming and hard to find things

eaasy to miss stuff
What is extra damage
I do agree there the pins are a mess
will i be able to target Hanying in blue banner before Ishmael patch resets the thingy?
room temperature iq behaviour
it's just one of the modifiers in the damage formula
wait is she powercrept yet in cn or nah?
not yet but soon
@peak whale
not yet
Skill Scaling Percentage x (Base ATK x (1 + ATK Increase) + Final ATK) x (1 + Phys DMG Increase) x (1 + Base DMG Increase) x (1 + Extra DMG Increase) x (1 - New DEF Stat) x (1 - Physical Resistance) x (1 - Extra DMG Reduction) x Float = Final DMG Output
(2 + Crit DMG Increase) x Skill Scaling Percentage x (Base ATK x (1 + ATK Increase) + Final ATK) x (1 + Phys DMG Increase) x (1 + Base DMG Increase) x (1 + Extra DMG Increase) x (1 - New DEF Stat) x (1 - Physical Resistance) x (1 - Extra DMG Reduction) x Float = Final DMG Output
Skill Scaling Percentage x (Base ATK x (1 + ATK Increase) + Final ATK) x (1 + Elemental DMG Increase) x (1 + Base DMG Increase) x (1 + Extra DMG Increase) x (1 - Elemental Resistance Resistance) x (1 - Extra DMG Reduction) = Final DMG Output
Why do people not like scire
Is Alisa utter poop without her signature?
fahrenheit or Celcius 
needs SS3 + R1 sig just to be usable on field
that said, there are a lot of Daren simps
no, still far and away the best support for phys
But without her weapon tho?
the necessity of her sig for harmony mainly came from pre-solacetune phys setup where you needed the 4dv for QTE resets
Does Elemental Dmg Bonus in modes like Derived from Matrix count towards physical or no?
LMAOOOOOOOOOO
right now it's a good boost but it's not as crazy impactful
MURICAAA
🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅
LOL wish I knew that before I pulled for her weap on a whim two days ago
Who
Echo sig
wtf
Tbh I like it though. And resonating it gives extra boost
why touch me
Oh so I don't need it to be good?
Nah u know what’s crazy I was about to ping you with this
Made my Alisa rotation less clunky, since sometimes I wasn't getting enough energy to use her sig
What abt lamia

pls be gentle


and i stand by it.. so touch me
Lamia without her signature is bad?
This is gameplay help not freakplay help 
ye she orb hungry
She's manageable without her sig compared to other units
So I don't really need to go back and get lamia and echo sig then
having her signature triggers matrix when she goes mermaid form
I'll save for the next character sig then
so it helps doing tide orbs
Since wanshi doesn't need it either
Do you have Qu?
Yes
ok now whose saying wanshi doesn't need his 
Someone told me!
Ah. I feel like eventually everyone needs their sig
Qu doesn't need her sig
I also heard Wanshi better off getting cub over sig, but that might be misinfo
💀
that is misinfo
Qu absolutely needs her sig
Qu isn't playable without her sig
I won't give her, she can be benched forever
both the fact that "qu and wanshi don't need sig" are misinfo

Aight I'll prioritize getting his sig
I'm messing with you, I got qu sig
So wanshi sig important?

should i get hanying or wanshi cub?
he needs it for 4cjy build for selena team later
up to you
Ok
whats the more impactful one, or should i save up for future cubs
Btw do U need more cubs copies
are you only able to do 2 solucetune rots in a row with ss3 dlt?
ss0 dlt can do it too with adjustments



