📨・meta-help

[raw swift]

Hanying will be ur physical dps

[carmine reef]

alisa sig doesn't really impact her ability to swap

[dapper skiff]

Hanying is a dps too

Get her

[covert shard]

aight

[night sigil]

I meant harmo

[carmine reef]

harmo also doesn't impact her ability to swap

[ruby minnow]

new characters are really good always, and arrival has 70% chance so 30% chance to give u a garbo ded unit

[carmine reef]

you're acting like no dv means you have to solo

[night sigil]

She needs 4 signa 4 dv though in phys

[carmine reef]

but those two things are unrelated

[raw swift]

@dapper skiff I'm still waiting for ur part of the deal kind sir

[round plank]

why is this thing still incomplete? i am at ch7?

[dapper skiff]

I'm in my shift

[carmine reef]

brother you are having one problem and conflating it with another problem

balter is necessary for swap
you're trying to switch your balter out with a qte bot

[raw swift]

Ohh got that sire pls take ur time :))

[deft apex]

Literally just read the mission

[little shadow]

Cuz u have to finish the mission below

[coral ferry]

Hello guys, I'm new. I picked CW for my 4fun comp and now I'm looking for a meta comp. Should I aim for Oblivion or save for something else?

[ruby minnow]

did u do the mission "complete 1 resource mission"?

[pine slate]

U need to do 1 resource mission
As stated right there

[raw swift]

Hello friend

[ruby minnow]

save for hanying coming this thursday

[ashen edge]

yes or dv eins gloria if ayla carry 4 guin
onslaught will have 2 set 1 for void and 1 for ice general
void content: 4chen 2gloria 2 eins

[round plank]

where can i check which mission is left?

[pine slate]

Hello

[night sigil]

So what should be my alisa build

[ruby minnow]

it's showing on the screenshot

[raw swift]

Why isn't today Thurs 😭

[last reef]

hello so how do i farm black cards

[carmine reef]

just hanying balter alisa like normal

[raw swift]

How are u friend

[carmine reef]

play the game

[ruby minnow]

teleport to the future

[true pivot]

isnt parry doing too much damage lol

[round plank]

ogg thnx i am just dumb

[carmine reef]

most of your bc is just from weeklies and dailies

[little shadow]

[night sigil]

This guide tho

[last reef]

normalize specific ans

[raw swift]

Do story and warzone and pain cage and interludes

[carmine reef]

ask vague questions get vague answers

[waxen marlin]

sleep is best time machine my friend

[ruby minnow]

that's more if u dont have balter

[waxen marlin]

[carmine reef]

like i just said, dailies and weeklies are the majority of bc income

[dapper skiff]

💳 for fast way

[raw swift]

Dunno I did that yesterday and went one day back

[raw swift]

So technically I did tomorrow

[last reef]

insomnia

[night sigil]

[carmine reef]

why are you trying to int yourself into a worse situation

[raw swift]

Alcohol helps with that

[last reef]

is hanying dps

[carmine reef]

you have balter and alisa why are you trying to downgrade yourself to a solo team

[raw swift]

Yes

[carmine reef]

every new S rank is a dps

[last reef]

when s rank sp

[carmine reef]

what

[night sigil]

What is my alisa set up

[last reef]

s rank support

[carmine reef]

support and dps are not mutually exclusive

[raw swift]

They support nd do dmg if not attacker

[ruby minnow]

supports in pgr can deal the most dmg in their teamcomp

[last reef]

oh dear

[carmine reef]

dps is not a specific role it's just "they do damage" which is all new units

[night sigil]

If you mean by amplifier then lilith

[carmine reef]

some might be supporting and also doing dmg

[carmine reef]

4 signa 2 phil like always has been for non harmo

[night sigil]

It was that simple

[carmine reef]

nothing changed about alisa

[night sigil]

I hate my overthinking

[raw swift]

Close discord and go touch some grass

[night sigil]

I already touched grass before let me be

[pine slate]

Btw 2 dv is better than Phil

[raw swift]

Yeah I m using that

[night sigil]

I'm dead

[carmine reef]

i can see that

[stoic rapids]

ayla could just carry eins along with the 4 guin so wanshi can still stay cyj dv and ayla 4guin 2glo 2 ein

[carmine reef]

the only difference is dv doesn't benefit alisa herself, but her dmg is not relevant with hanying so it makes sense

[raw swift]

They should've just named it sigma it would have been better

[pine slate]

If u don't have a dv bot ofc

[woven haven]

even a cheap ass support chara like lilith does more dmg than every dark unit in the game rn

[raw swift]

Ur contradicting urself in that sentence

[woven haven]

well no its a perfectly logical sentence in the context of pgr

[carmine reef]

how is it a contradiction

[night sigil]

So my team should be 4 sig hanying and 2 cottie, 4 Charlotte 2 cath, 4 signa 2 dv/phil?

[carmine reef]

lowkey i would take out the charlotte for 4patton then

[night sigil]

I think i can sleep now

[carmine reef]

[night sigil]

Hang me

[woven haven]

yeah take out charlotte for 4patton

[night sigil]

In the tree

[pine slate]

Lemme spice things up then

[woven haven]

if your hanying can't hold patton someone has to

[deft apex]

[night sigil]

My balt has no sig

[woven haven]

this is why shakes wata works

[lament yoke]

:D

[ruby minnow]

[woven haven]

yes
so 4patton2cath

[pine slate]

Why r ur units not harmo btw

[woven haven]

doesn't change anything

[carmine reef]

they don't have sig

[night sigil]

Im broke i need wanshi sig for solo ice dps cuz my ice is non-existent

[woven haven]

and don't you me
Charlotte is easily the worst signature memory in a long while

[night sigil]

[ruby minnow]

charlotte died on qu patch

[night sigil]

4 liston 4 cjy

[last blade]

[ruby minnow]

[raw swift]

Hey nice pfp man

[ruby minnow]

ty

[night sigil]

I just went like 3 years inactive here and i get smoothed brain

[raw swift]

Which one is spoiler free (i have finish chapter 13 and extra story 4)

[deft apex]

Nice pfp indeed (totally unbiased), also banner

[ruby minnow]

[carmine reef]

these are spoilers

cause those are the story chapters for the 3 chars

[raw swift]

Ok noted thanks for the information

I see

[native adder]

what build am i suppose to make Ayla Kaleido use for ice team with Qu and new Wanshi? support or DPS in #📨・bot-info

[carmine reef]

always support

4dv 2eins 2guin

[little shadow]

Supp

[rough mica]

4dv 2 guin 2 eins forever

🦓

[ashen edge]

🦓

[lament yoke]

It also depends on game mode, right? Or nah

[carmine reef]

not in any regular gamemode

[rough mica]

2222 or 4 guin 2 sth 2sth in ppc

[night sigil]

Is it true that i should let balter have the 4 set instead of Charlotte

[rough mica]

anything else just 4dv 2 eins 2 guin

[carmine reef]

if you're in some weird situation where kaleido is the strongest unit available, like babel or some extremely unfortunate gb, then that's the only time youd' use kaleido dps set

[waxen marlin]

so should pull for ayla weap to harmo? or just leave it no eins?

[rough mica]

no guin

[carmine reef]

i am literally the one that told you to do 4 patton instead of 4 char bro

that was me

[waxen marlin]

[night sigil]

[ashen edge]

no guin instead

[waxen marlin]

is there any futue event give her sig for free? 🤔

[night sigil]

With resos too?

[rough mica]

no login after 13 days

[carmine reef]

it's useful ofc but low prio if you have limited budget, so unless you're a big spender, just do 4dv 2eins

[rough mica]

sadly no

[ashen edge]

spending event

[waxen marlin]

[carmine reef]

sigs for qte bots never the priority

[ashen edge]

just 1k rc and u done

[waxen marlin]

lmao

[native adder]

aight thanks @carmine reef @little shadow @rough mica

[rough mica]

real

[night sigil]

Time to prepare for hanying/wanshi i have to make use of my free time

[waxen marlin]

200 rc 🤔

[wet tusk]

would sss+ ardeo be a decent sub for epitaph? cz im running it ss luna w/ liv & leap

[waxen marlin]

no dont emo me, just wondering

[raw swift]

Yeah

Don't try to do dmg with her tho

[wet tusk]

alright, just use her as qte bot?

[raw swift]

Yupp

[wet tusk]

she looks buns when in combat

[raw swift]

But no dmg

[carmine reef]

rn epitaph is the only viable sub dps for luna, any other tank is qte bot
however wanshi comes out in 10 days and you can use him as subdps

[native adder]

for Kaleido

DV = 2,4,5,6
Ein = 1, 3

is this correct?

[covert shard]

any tips on defeating this?

[wet tusk]

i thought wanshi comes out the same time as hanying

[carmine reef]

nope

week later

[raw swift]

Just 7 days later

[carmine reef]

i think every patch with multiple S ranks will be like this

[wet tusk]

just spam lunas shi

[raw swift]

Learn her moveset

[raw swift]

Will die lmao

[wet tusk]

i just beat that in like 2 minutes ago

[waxen marlin]

will able to exchange him from dorm or still need to wait 1 week?

[carmine reef]

i think you have to wait

[covert shard]

so practice

[wet tusk]

waiting for a week is painful

[covert shard]

got it

[carmine reef]

we've waited a year already

[native adder]

is this right o;

[raw swift]

Will have to wait probably

[carmine reef]

1 more week is nbd

[waxen marlin]

[naive apex]

How's Wanshi going to change the memory builds of the team members?

[wet tusk]

i mean, waiting for a year is bad but a week seems to kill ur patience

[raw swift]

That's why I support the patch merging

[carmine reef]

ok cringelord

[raw swift]

Lol

Don't want to wait for characters and still doesn't like the merging patches makes a lot of sense

[carmine reef]

i don't mind waiting for characters at all

don't project your thoughts onto others

[raw swift]

I literally said it makes sense

[native adder]

are these placements correct 😭

[wet tusk]

well i died on her 2nd phase once but all i did was just luna it out idk why it spawned orbs alot but it just did

[carmine reef]

personally i liked having the forewarning and i also liked having my money be worth something

[raw swift]

Yeah that's true

[carmine reef]

it doesn't matter that much it's fine

[wet tusk]

i mean im already immune to a year cz being in the fgo na servers is diabolical

but a week is killing my patience

impending doom type shi

[carmine reef]

it's okay

you only feel like that right now

but once hanying drops you will spend that 1 week occuped with hanying

[wet tusk]

because my ice team is dry ice asl😭

coping with that A rank tank

[naive apex]

What second memory set are Wanshi and Qu gonna use after the sleeper drops? Do you just toss Chen on both?

[native adder]

aight ty

[carmine reef]

optimally wanshi runs 4cjy and qu can swap to 2cjy 2dw
but it's also viable for qu to stay on 4cjy
and sss or higher qu can run 4cot as well

[deft apex]

And then 1 week occupied with wanshi

[carmine reef]

basically as long as wanshi has harmo, he will always hold 4cjy, and qu can be flexible

[naive apex]

What kind of a weird rotation is Qu gonna have with Cottie?

[carmine reef]

well sss has a different rotation to begin with

[last reef]

yeah i am

[carmine reef]

and cottie doesn't change the rotation so much as just like

allow you to cut corners in places

[naive apex]

I've got harmo on Qu and Kaleido but probably can't afford to pick up Wanshi sig

[carmine reef]

then you qu will be staying on 4cjy no matter what

[naive apex]

Ayla 4DV 2Eins 2 Guin?

[carmine reef]

if no wanshi harmo then wanshi eins

[naive apex]

Could also have 4 Guin Ayla and the Eins on wanshi

[carmine reef]

ayla can go to guin glo or guin sam

not 4guin in wz

ayla can't 4guin without double qte

[wet tusk]

what is this language bro😭💔✌🏿✌🏿✌🏿

[naive apex]

Don't you still get the drone every 2 casts? It's just not gonna be on every rotation

[carmine reef]

yeah but that's ass lmao

it's just objectively worse at that point

[night sigil]

Trust me after being inactive this was alien language to me

[carmine reef]

think about it

5s buff every 16s

[raw swift]

seriously?

[wet tusk]

iont know whats cjy dv and dw 😭

[naive apex]

Well to be fair, Samantha and Gloria aren't very much higher

[carmine reef]

yes they are

[wet tusk]

complete alienation to my brain

[carmine reef]

because of their uptime

[last reef]

deadass

[vale raft]

Gloria ★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

Attacks reduce the target's all Elemental Resistance by 6% for 5s. 12s cooldown.

4pc Set Bonus

When taking damage, reduces the Elemental Resistance of enemies within 5m by 6% for 7s. Duration resets every time it is triggered.

ATK

107

CRIT

53

DEF

177

HP

1232

[raw swift]

i need students in EU

[carmine reef]

glo is 5/12 uptime and the effect is much stronger

[vale raft]

Samantha ★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

Healing effect increases by 5%. Next healing effect increases the target's Elemental DMG by 8% for 4s. 5s cooldown.

4pc Set Bonus

The next healing effect adds an elemental aura that increases the Elemental DMG and Elemental Resistance of the allies in the area by 8% and 5% respectively. 10s cooldown.

ATK

107

CRIT

51

DEF

181

HP

1208

[carmine reef]

sam is 4/5 uptime for just a slightly worse effect

[night sigil]

Dv is the davinci memory, cjy is the ice element common memory, i think dw is just darwin

[wet tusk]

oh alright

[carmine reef]

in case you needed a reminder

[vale raft]

Guinevere ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

Heals for 10% more. Increases the Elemental DMG and Resistances of the healing target by 10% for 5s. Has a cooldown of 8 seconds.

4pc Set Bonus

A healing drone will be charged when healing is performed. When fully charged, the next time you performing healing will consume all charged energy to summon the healing drone. It will follow an ally with the lowest HP percentage, healing allies in a 5m radius for 2% maximum HP per second and increasing their Elemental DMG by 15% for 5s. 12s cooldown.

ATK

132

CRIT

64

DEF

223

HP

1528

[carmine reef]

so between 4guin and 2sam assuming double qte you're getting 15% dmg for 30% uptime or 8% dmg for 80% uptime

[last reef]

ofc but it will take sum time

[raw swift]

sure np :))

[naive apex]

If you're getting Guin 4 every 16 seconds, that means you're also getting Sam every 16s because of the cooldown. Same uptime, just better stat.

[carmine reef]

???

sam cooldown is 5s

you can have it every qte

[naive apex]

sorry I meant Gloria

[carmine reef]

yeah but gloria's effect is much stronger

sam is better uptime, gloria is stronger effect

both are better than 4guin on ayla

plus let's not forget wz is a game of breakpoints

[tulip spade]

hey guys just wondering whjats the build for karenina scire ss3 + sig + Leap ?

[carmine reef]

having 4guin every 2 ults is not even averaging out, it means every other ult is totally unbuffed

which is going to wreak havoc on your ability to chain wave clears efficiently

[raw swift]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerdge-gif-23738139

[carmine reef]

like if you are 2 hp bars short of killing with an unbuffed ult, and you don't clear it with the next core

[naive apex]

That applies to Gloria too

[carmine reef]

it's basically the same result as needing 2 full ults to kill it

yeah i agree, which is why i'd prefer sam in that scenario

but gloria would still be better than 4guin

cause it's a stronger effect like i said lol

[night sigil]

What is 4 patt 2 cath reso?

[raw swift]

for who?

[carmine reef]

still ult

until trueslash

and then atk

[night sigil]

Thankss

[naive apex]

Gloria is better, but Guin 4 has a slight extra benefit that the drone can retrigger heal effects after Kaleido is off the field

[deft apex]

Nice arts wuduh

[mighty tusk]

lmao no bait units in arrival banner

[night sigil]

They look so pretty together

[carmine reef]

guin drone is not affected by timestop
the buff it gives is timestopped, but the drone itself will expire

so you're not cheating any extra duration out of it really

most of its lifespan will be during qu ult

[naive apex]

You might be but probably not on a relevant amount of damage

[carmine reef]

wat

[woven haven]

Lamia and Balter

[deft apex]

And oblivion

[mighty tusk]

but are they stronger bait than cw?

[carmine reef]

isn't it funny that all of those units are the ones whose ss3 are useless to 99% of players

[woven haven]

i mean its the trend with every non Qu attacker isn't it

[carmine reef]

pyroath goated how dare u

[woven haven]

have a useless or swap based SS3 to bait spenders who don't read

[mighty tusk]

most players don't have ss3 daren so no rotate for ss3 lamia
ss3 luna is lmao

[mighty tusk]

selena ss3 and core

[carmine reef]

kit-wise lee's ss3 is pretty good too

[woven haven]

but

[naive apex]

I'm switching to f2p because I don't wanna spend 2x/3x the amount of money to keep up. So I can probably only afford one sig in the near future. Still trying to figure out which one will be the most important

[woven haven]

it does only work if you swap constantly

[carmine reef]

but that's pyroath in general isn't it

[deft apex]

Ok selena ss3 goated too

[carmine reef]

lol

[mighty tusk]

how much increase to her core?

[woven haven]

60% if SS3
100% if SSS

[deft apex]

Dont ask me i just know its good

[woven haven]

to hold dodge specifically

[raw swift]

imagine if they had 3x/2x the amt from monthly passes

[woven haven]

Selena SS3 rank is incomplete

[carmine reef]

"idk man i just work here"

[deft apex]

Ong

[woven haven]

i mean yeah but there will be solo copers since the tank is wata

[naive apex]

Yeah and that's the scam, spend more money to get the same progress.

[carmine reef]

don't ask fabio such detailed questions he is just a humble geologist

[woven haven]

anyways Pyroath SS3 is the ultimate swap only rank

[deft apex]

[raw swift]

yup not a good time to spend

[opaque ridge]

where did i say 4p cath

[carmine reef]

[woven haven]

if you run solo

1. No energy boost
2. QTE boost doesn't matter
3. all u get is... swordwave dmg increase

[raw swift]

how much of a dmg boost is alisa's new skin?

[mighty tusk]

I doubt you even know that nanami existed as long as the first trilobites

[carmine reef]

wtf spoilers

[naive apex]

I've been getting monthly+ for the sigs and sometimes an SS3 if I've got extra. But with the monthly price going 3x to do that, I just don't want to suppoort that.

[opaque ridge]

absolutely, quit the game

[novel sleet]

Affix stuff starts at hero wz right?

[raw swift]

yeah f2p is chill for now

[carmine reef]

ye

[woven haven]

for now

[mighty tusk]

they are also slowly adding affix to ult ppc

[woven haven]

also its in EXPPC in CN alr

[opaque ridge]

its effect

affix fanfic

[naive apex]

I've got enough leftover to try pulling one sig in the future so I'm just trying to figure out who needs it the most.

[mighty tusk]

also veronica still 30 mil in beta?

[novel sleet]

40% of the f2ps who are worried abt affix stuff aren't even gonna go past leader anytime soon

[naive apex]

I've been playing pingpong with leader and hero for months

[novel sleet]

Same

[naive apex]

Leader easy promo, then get immediately booted back down by whales

[mighty tusk]

that's gonna be me next patch

[carmine reef]

ping pong is pretty normal for f2p

[wispy robin]

with wata mule and han weather i could get like 2.3m on leader

[carmine reef]

low spender can retain hero fairly easily

but if you're missing sigs it can be rough

[novel sleet]

Leader not easy to ping pong if I get dark or lightning wz

Since I got the budget team of it

[naive apex]

Well on EU server the hero scores are ridiculous 80% of the time

[novel sleet]

What abt asia

Do u think they are calm

[carmine reef]

wz is more or less the same across regions except for legend

[stoic rapids]

is there any reason for qu to keep on carrying 4cjy with wanshi also carrying it? is the application consistency more worth than darwin on her?

[carmine reef]

there's no objective answer

it might be better, it might not be

will depend on your specific run

[stoic rapids]

i cant determine those specifics

[novel sleet]

Just wait till someone tries it out

[carmine reef]

correct

you cannot

it's not about anyone figuring it out

[exotic fulcrum]

Guys where to fight the Twins from Ch16 using our characters?

[carmine reef]

when i mean it depends on your specific run, i mean that literally

it's literally dependent on the way your specific run goes, whether that shred application matters or not

[naive apex]

Me getting very high score on hero recently with funded teams, then on the last day I check and hero #6 is a million above my score.

[mighty tusk]

celica's class....
lemme guess, trying to use cw against them?

[exotic fulcrum]

No, Uncle Wata

[naive apex]

Then I check and 6th spot was full SSS

[carmine reef]

the use case is basically a scenario where a mob spawns 12s after you swapped in

from wanshi

[exotic fulcrum]

I can't find them lmao

[mighty tusk]

twins can be a bit buggy with regards to matrix

[wispy robin]

it's pretty much invest based
whether those 5% edb will be a break for you or not
all of the 3s r2 kal dalaos are running 4cj, but for my 5* kal 2dw is much better

[naive apex]

Not as bad as Fenrir though

[mighty tusk]

I'd take fenrir

[exotic fulcrum]

That's why I wanna have fun breaking the game lmao

[naive apex]

Two weeks in a row Fenrir has eaten me during timestop ult. Not even matrix.

[carmine reef]

fenrir is not nearly the worst offender imo

[novel sleet]

Ban pan for 25 yrs

[stoic rapids]

i guiess it makes no diff from a build standpoint cause it's just a harmo swap

[nova forum]

What's the schedule for the new wz? Wednesday - Tuesday?

[naive apex]

Or sorry, two cycles

[mighty tusk]

try looking at codex and try challenge

[carmine reef]

in fact fenrir is probably the nicest one imo

[exotic fulcrum]

Noo

[woven haven]

should be mon - sun

[carmine reef]

lilith and tb are so toxic

[naive apex]

It's weird that sometimes Fenrir can decide to cancel timestop WITH iframes

[wet sequoia]

Spend all of em on cogs

[novel sleet]

One day

[carmine reef]

it's so cringe fighting those bosses

[exotic fulcrum]

Ok, but where do I find codex?

[naive apex]

At least TB is only cancelling iframes, I haven't seen him ignore an ult yet.

[buoyant hornet]

Tbh some people did urge me to prioritize testing shred reso but they weren't 100% sure if dlt might be better

[mighty tusk]

profile

[exotic fulcrum]

I see, thanks.

[buoyant hornet]

It's especially tricky for me because everyone I asked has SSS alisa and I have ss0

[wet sequoia]

Google

[naive apex]

TB is cringe but getting yoinked out of an ult with timestop is the most baffling trolly thing

[wet sequoia]

[buoyant hornet]

That means my Alisa will basically never get a full rotation

[carmine reef]

it's ok i'm ss0 alisa too

[naive apex]

I mean isn't the difference one extra ping?

[raw swift]

hey this is actually quite nice :)))

[carmine reef]

and you have balter sig over me too so even worse for me

[buoyant hornet]

Yay fellow ss0 alisa zaza

[buoyant hornet]

Yup 💀

I might end up getting to do balter 1.5 over Alisa rot but we'll see

[carmine reef]

sss alisa needs half the pings

[naive apex]

I got SSS alisa and it only dropped 1x 3ping out of my rotation

[buoyant hornet]

If it's worse than just Alisa cd fill+lingya proc then we'll have similar scores either way

[hazy cypress]

Same

[ebon adder]

my alisa is s... should i get her to ss with solo hanying? i also have balter with ss but no sig

[buoyant hornet]

We shall cook together then

[hazy cypress]

This is wht i get for prioritizing selena btw

And she isn't sss either cuz i gave up cuz she is ass

[buoyant hornet]

....theoretically @carmine reef

[wispy robin]

what would that ss alisa supposed to do when hanying is soloing already🐴

[carmine reef]

ss doesn't matter if you're soloing

[woven haven]

this reminds me of the talk about alisa's orb consumption post leap going in wildly different directions

[ebon adder]

aight bet

[buoyant hornet]

Either way she'll be useless on-field in selena comps dw

Just lingya proc bot

[raw swift]

what does her ss do?

[hazy cypress]

I mean capri here but yee

[carmine reef]

gains orbs and more dmg bonus

it's good qol for onfielding her but

[hazy cypress]

I will try to get her sss prolly after wanshi and lilith

[carmine reef]

if you're not onfielding her then who cares

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah ik I mean lacking sss echo isn't the end of the world for now

[hazy cypress]

Yep

[woven haven]

of all the things i wasn't expecting

[raw swift]

nah just want the buffs

[woven haven]

in 2025

its an amplifier requiring DLT for buffs

[carmine reef]

like i said there's no buffs for the team on ss

[woven haven]

[carmine reef]

they're only buffs to her personal rotation

[hazy cypress]

Just ranting about capri cuz hehe

[wispy robin]

wait you are referring to alisa?

[carmine reef]

if you're using alisa as qte bot the ss does literally nothing

[buoyant hornet]

Alisa buffs only increase with sig and SSS, ss0-ss3 do nothing for her qte buffs

[woven haven]

yes alisa

[wispy robin]

for glacio?

[buoyant hornet]

Or amp passive

[raw swift]

yeah got that thanks:))

[woven haven]

For Glacio Alisa requires SS + Sig + DLT for her glacio buffs

and ofc the usual SSS for amp

[raw swift]

at 3s whats the dmg % for amp class?

[zenith thorn]

LMAO WHAT DLT

[wispy robin]

no way selena needs both alisa and han r3

[carmine reef]

20%

10% atk 10% ele > 20% atk 20% ele

[naive apex]

Does SSS still get rid of the DLT there?

[woven haven]

Anguishing Co-Strike consumes all Cipher Orbs, up to an equal number of Signal Orbs, and the Soul Shatter Mark if held, then grants corresponding bonuses for the Glaciation Effect.
— Each Cipher Orb increases the Base DMG of Gelid and the Ice Spike by 4%, and each Signal Orb increases the Base DMG of Crystallize by 25% for 24s. Triggering this effect will renew its duration. The Soul Shatter Mark enhances the effect of Crystalline Points, every 100 Crystalline Points increasing the Base DMG of the next Cryoshatter by 200% (does not stack).

[woven haven]

nopeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[raw swift]

aight thx

[woven haven]

this is glacio alisa

[zenith thorn]

Fortnite term please

[naive apex]

Yay, -1 atk buff when we get there

[carmine reef]

me with my r0 alisa

[naive apex]

skibidi rizz mew streak

[raw swift]

me with no sig alisa

[keen skiff]

lil uestion : will the next even drop exactly at the end of the current one. I forgot if that usually what happens or not.
|| asking that for my ressource management ||

[woven haven]

Alisa glacio core consumes all cecily orbs + an equal number of regular orbs
ALL btw

[carmine reef]

for your resource management purposes no

[naive apex]

Glacio core? More like orb gone

[keen meteor]

these freekin whalers wont let me in top 10 smh

[carmine reef]

the event farming stage ends a little earlier than the patch itself

[keen skiff]

okay

[carmine reef]

and the event farming stage ends in less than 24 hrs

[north ibex]

When you get a gacha coating, will their skin play their theme song when I use them ? Or how do the theme songs work?

[woven haven]

on later swap ins alisa lacks orbs for the tankier waves

[carmine reef]

so today's the last day to use any serum on it

[meager iris]

will her s+ become beneficial? like extra buffs or something or just more damage

[zenith thorn]

😭🙏

[keen skiff]

hmm alr

[woven haven]

go to home screen music and select the track u unlock for the background

this only applies to 500 RC gacha skins

and yes you need the background for the music

[wary niche]

how many copies do i need more if i get wanshi from dorm+ppc shop
then voucher shop to SSS
i dont know the cap for voucher shards

[woven haven]

just stopping at the skin does nothing

[dapper skiff]

What de hell is wata mule

[north ibex]

I see thank you

[woven haven]

90 shards
voucher shards are unlimited with a monthly discount limit

[dapper skiff]

Also r0 qu is ass even with swap

[wispy robin]

4dv 4pat with r1

[north ibex]

So it’ll only play the music in lobby, not when I’m like fighting or anything

[woven haven]

[Passive - Dreamer's Shore Lv.3] added effect: When any Zone is active, Echo gains 30% Extra DMG Bonus.

[dapper skiff]

[woven haven]

nope

[dapper skiff]

Damn bro

[woven haven]

gacha skins are a big scam tbh

[dapper skiff]

Heh

Reso priority unchanged

[meager iris]

free from dorm + ppc this is ss you need 90 to sss. if you get 1 copy then ppc then dorm then you will need 40 from vouchers

[wary niche]

so its better to get an extra copy on the gacha to save vouchers then

[zenith thorn]

WHAT THE ZAZA

[rough mica]

wanshi release on 27th feb

[woven haven]

no cuz SS3 of a paid unit is better

[rough mica]

so we only need 2 days to sss

[woven haven]

Wanshi SSS just needs vouchers and time

[rough mica]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-soda-shaking-explode-orange-cat-gif-16941493478810774062

[woven haven]

don't waste black cards on something so trivial

[meager iris]

well if you have vouchers you can literally sss in 2 days

60 shards on 27 feb then 40 on 1 march

[buoyant hornet]

She's more orb hungry in glacio? 💀

[woven haven]

she zeroes out ALL your orbs in glacio

[wary niche]

idk how much vouchers i have and how much it costs and if it have discount on all 60
imma check

[distant wren]

Her glacio core has a hold atk move that consumes normal orbs based on her cipher orbs
Can consume max 8 at once

[woven haven]

regardless of how many

[meager iris]

so you need 72360 vouchers to sss him with discounted shards

[buoyant hornet]

Double the usual 10%+10% but Lilith has completely different buff value sequence

Lilith starts with 20%+20% amp passive and 20% dark radiation > ss3 increases dark radiation by 10% > SSS increases dark radiation by another 10%

[woven haven]

isn't it more than that
you should have like 16 cipher orbs

[distant wren]

Wait u can get up to 16?

[woven haven]

tap dodge is +4 per trigger

[wary niche]

safe, got 86k just checked mine

[woven haven]

so well 12 in SSS

[distant wren]

Yea maybe i need to check more glacio runs again

[woven haven]

wait no i forgot you don't charge

[meager iris]

then it's ok buy all discounted shards on his release and the rest after 2 days

[raw swift]

Jesus Christ

[distant wren]

Yea but i do know she needs 3 dodges + hold BA to get enough energy for ult

[woven haven]

oh wait

you know what empress does lmao

[wary niche]

so in short
get wanshi in dorm
PPC shard
voucher shop to SSS?

[meager iris]

yeah

[raw swift]

Yes

[meager iris]

since you have enough vouchers, spending vouchers better than spending bc

[rough mica]

wait

sync patch so i can buy 40 discounted shards right away right?

[raw swift]

15k bc only for 30 shards is sadge

[rough mica]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-soda-shaking-explode-orange-cat-gif-16941493478810774062

[deft apex]

Yea

[meager iris]

in feb you can get 60 afaik

[rough mica]

nice

[buoyant hornet]

What does she do

[meager iris]

then march you get 40

[raw swift]

She makes yt videos

[wary niche]

yeah thanks for the info, buying BPass starts to payoff since they released it

[buoyant hornet]

I'm asking about the rotation lmao

[meager iris]

[raw swift]

Hahaha

[meager iris]

well for first copy it's 50 shards instead of dorm scam

[north ibex]

What is the best way to farm for s rank shards without getting duplicates ? And how many shards do I get if I get a duplicate?

[woven haven]

make yt videos

[raw swift]

oh i didnt know that

[woven haven]

ok seems like cipher orbs can be consumed up to 16
but regular orbs only 8?
weirdge

[raw swift]

thats what i said lmao

or wait were u mocking me

[fallen jolt]

character unlocks are typically equivalent to 50 shards worth; subsequent copies are then 30 shards worth.

[meager iris]

ppc shop you can buy 30 to ss and that's it, unless the character is free and her sharda is on the vouchers shop then you can buy unlimited amount. dupes give 30 shards only

[north ibex]

What is the best method to get vouchers ?

[meager iris]

battle pass

[waxen marlin]

battle pass

[raw swift]

ok so if i pull wanshi and farm shards from dorm and 10 shards from ppc

[waxen marlin]

[meager iris]

then wz then events

[distant wren]

Hmm, maybe but anyway point doesn't change that she eats lots more orbs lol

[north ibex]

Aren’t there like 2 different paid versions of the battle pass? Which one would be the most efficient ?

[woven haven]

yeah not enough for non dlt to sustain lmao

[raw swift]

free one

[woven haven]

empress subsequent rots eat 5 orbs that's not enough

[keen meteor]

Do they add the harmonization tops in the event shop next patch or no?

[north ibex]

So are the paid battle passes a scam ?

[fallen jolt]

should equal 50 from pull, +50 from dorm (total 100) 10 from ppc is 110. you would still need 10 more elsewhere.

[wary niche]

the gold one with the weapon skin and gives 2500 gacha tix

[fallen jolt]

for 120/sss

[raw swift]

nahh actually idk i was just joking ask someone else haha

[meager iris]

well imo both are very good but that depends on you, you can click on the bp and see what it gives in terms of vouchers

[north ibex]

Ohh okay

[onyx palm]

Um is it possible to miss the recruitment phase and then be locked out of war zone?

[raw swift]

voucher shop resets every month?

[meager iris]

yes

[onyx palm]

Or is everyone currently locked out of war zone?

[tulip spade]

Is wanshi in the event shop when he releases anyone ?

[fallen jolt]

this

[distant wren]

They locked wz for rework
Wait till update

[onyx palm]

Oh Oke cool I’m not missing bc

[meager iris]

yes wait until the update

[raw swift]

ohh got that

[opaque ridge]

Wait wtf u guys get no wz this week

[waxen marlin]

would say 30 one

[opaque ridge]

Must be nice

[onyx palm]

So much bc gone 😭😭

[wary niche]

i am buying BP since it was released and the gold one is useful in the long run
2500 tix means some of your BC can be saved for gacha skins
extra vouchers for frames like wanshi so you can buy more

[meager iris]

until the update so we get the new one

[livid lark]

it opens on thurs lmao

[fallen jolt]

yeah, no mon-wed cycle

[opaque ridge]

Huh wtf

Isnt ur wz weekly yet?

[raw swift]

and the missions are still there -_-

[meager iris]

so we will get it mid week

[livid lark]

will be on thursday

[fallen jolt]

that will be upcoming patch

[north ibex]

The gold one is the most expensive one right?

[meager iris]

no?

[woven haven]

in a day

that's why GLB server closed WZ

[raw swift]

hes being sarcastic i think

[fallen jolt]

ppc still up, however

[livid lark]

no i think he's genuinely asking

[opaque ridge]

So u guys get no compensation

[meager iris]

cn people smh

[opaque ridge]

Have to do wz on Thursday

[raw swift]

oh ok i thought

[woven haven]

lost triple yeah

[fallen jolt]

but still no kfc

[opaque ridge]

[woven haven]

basically 1 rot x 3 lost

[meager iris]

compensation? is that edible?

[opaque ridge]

Another global L

[livid lark]

if altera is trolling he wouldnt be like this

[nova forum]

And additional -600 bc cuz 1 maintenance for 2 patch

Devs listened

[raw swift]

ouch ouch

[opaque ridge]

U know when im trolling?

[zenith thorn]

ek did you really have to 😭🙏

[opaque ridge]

also stop changing names like erza

[wary niche]

kinda, costs around 12$ assuming you dont have spare RC to buy the cheaper options

also may add the extra shard selector in the bonus rewards

[meager iris]

this week rewards is still 3x even when wz release weeklies still 3x

next week will change 2x

[raw swift]

84k BC GOOGLY MOOGLY

[opaque ridge]

Wow 84k

Saving for selena

[raw swift]

69m cogs

Cant even imagine

[meager iris]

so rich

[fallen jolt]

so rich smh

[meager iris]

I only have 2 mill cogs

[opaque ridge]

Whels

[wary niche]

nah i just SS+sig everyone and CUB ss3 for very strong units

[carmine reef]

bruh? i went down to 200k cogs this patch

[zenith thorn]

omg bestie samf

[opaque ridge]

Very strong units should be sss

[meager iris]

[zenith thorn]

should i sss mech

[opaque ridge]

I’ll sss ur head with a hammer

[wary niche]

yeah but i dont want to overspend my BCs
since ss-ss3 are enough to clear contents and im not even trying to enter top 100

[zenith thorn]

damn

[north ibex]

What is an extra shard selector ?
Why can you buy it 3 times? What does that do?
Is there a max level to the battle pass or is it unending post level 50 like league of legends?

Sorry for these questions I’m a bit new

[opaque ridge]

Zamn

[raw swift]

smart person

[livid lark]

wdym

[fallen jolt]

ends level 80 per patch

[zenith thorn]

ur nick

[fallen jolt]

but, 70 is the free to play end while 80 is the battle pass paid level

[wary niche]

cuz i know what it feels liek running out curencies to gacha

[livid lark]

i dont see the issue here

[zenith thorn]

[opaque ridge]

But pgr isnt a gacha game

[raw swift]

thats nice

[north ibex]

Oh ok I see

[zenith thorn]

i respect the high-key flex

[meager iris]

so post level 50 there are 30 levels that gives vouchers,

[opaque ridge]

Nvm weapon banner is still gacha

Wuwa should learn from pgr

[livid lark]

nah it's mostly to like give people a sign in case people want to ping me when the bot doesnt work

[fallen jolt]

to answer why you can buy it 3x, it is because of a special syncro that pgr global is doing. it is 3x because currently, there is 3x patches combined into 1.

[opaque ridge]

80 pity weapon is omega cringe

[meager iris]

fr

[livid lark]

basically like nova

[meager iris]

and when you go 70-80 every single patch that sucks

[zenith thorn]

you should be named The Celica Guy to have the same name as nova

[north ibex]

Oh I see, so would I just get 3x the usual stuff?

[nova forum]

Very f2p friendly game

[north ibex]

The screenshot says 15k vouchers for gold, so 45k?

[wary niche]

its fine
extra shard selector as it says
you can get extra 10 shards from some units that are
-old
-went leap system (upgrade)
-from dorm shop

BP max lvl is 80

you can pick either middle BP gives weapon(?) tix or Pet gacha tix(?) never bought this one
few voucger
or
gold BP
gives 2500 gacha tix (character)
extra 10 shards
weapon skin
more voucgers

[fallen jolt]

extra shard selectors come from the battle pass premium. what it does, is enable you to select any (shard) available from the voucher shop currently for "free." it is usually around 15x shards per patch, so this patch should give 45x shards of the given selected voucher cast.

[livid lark]

oh good idea
also the humour behind the Ishmael's Servant nickname already disappeared

[dapper skiff]

Shi

[fallen jolt]

yep basically

[livid lark]

so I decided that it wasnt worth keeping LMAO

[north ibex]

Oh ok I see

[dapper skiff]

R0 qu even with swap is pretty brick

[nova forum]

[hardy leaf]

Event currency exchange for memory shard or raw memory for reso better?

[opaque ridge]

This game is p2w af

[north ibex]

What is weapon or pet gacha tix? Are they actually 6 star or are they like coatings ?

[livid lark]

uh it wont really make a difference i think

[livid lark]

it's 1:1 equivalent to BC

[dapper skiff]

Her orb refund nullify the rest of the orb u have before ult so u only have 16(+9 with refund) for ult

Means you will ended up with 7 no matter what

[fallen jolt]

they are the pull currency for weapon and pet summons respectively

[dapper skiff]

So when that 7 isn't 331

Restart

[north ibex]

Ohh j see

[dapper skiff]

[fallen jolt]

but also this^

[fallen jolt]

r0 qu is no rights

[dapper skiff]

After solo

That design is pretty shi ngl

[fallen jolt]

[wary niche]

like the character gacha
you spent a certain currency, but in this game we just call it the weapon tickets (weapon banners)
cub/pet tickets (cub banner)
idk how much knowledge you know about black cards (BCs)
basically you can convert BC to either
weapon tix or cub tix and the character tix

[dapper skiff]

She deletes ur orb if u have more than 7 before ult, and forced to have 7 only after ult

[fallen jolt]

orb deletion

[dapper skiff]

No kidding

[fallen jolt]

that is actually so cooked

it's like they didn't intend her to be used in swap

[north ibex]

Oh ok I see, I know about the BC but I did not know that there are tickets for weapons and cubs that is very cool

Thank you for the information from both of you guys

[fallen jolt]

it does take some time getting used to / fiddling, but it makes sense naturally like with other gachas if you have played others.

[wary niche]

for free to play
it is always suggested to pull for characters and 5* weapons are serviceable

the only time you will pull signature weapon/cubs/pets is if u really like that character

MP and BP players can go bonkers

[meager iris]

unless you do hold dodge for ss0-ss3

[north ibex]

Oh ok I will keep that in mind

[dapper skiff]

Ngl

Actually

[meager iris]

no?

[dapper skiff]

Since hold dodge only keep 2 stack (6 orbs)

[meager iris]

yeah

[dapper skiff]

U still have more place than 7 after ult

[wary niche]

forgot to mention that PGR also gives out signature weapon selector from certain events or when they just feel like it

except for the on current banner signature

also S ranks selector just like this void luna patch,we have one

[dapper skiff]

Weak ult for cost of sanity

Sounds good to me

[north ibex]

Wow they are very generous

[dapper skiff]

I ain't malding perfect 331 on qu

[ripe stag]

Question: TS Hanying rot is blue > tap ult > blue > tap ult till ult is available?

[meager iris]

well if you want to do strong ult all the time you have to sss0

[dapper skiff]

[dapper skiff]

Pak yu kuro

Ss truly no rights

[sleek basin]

This sht is more rare than fathers returning with milk

[ripe stag]

Or does this have any stack ?

Anyone

[meager iris]

this is the only way to maintain orbs and do b2b2b strong ults

[opaque ridge]

Uh they nerfed jetavie in beta

[meager iris]

ofc! I pay money to get rights you f2p peasants get nothing

[opaque ridge]

A rank is too strong

[meager iris]

[deft apex]

blue tap ult *5

[fallen jolt]

when the 5* wep ppc qu strat malding requires 331

[meager iris]

they are scared that she can beat lamia

[opaque ridge]

Not lamia, combustion

[sleek basin]

5* is no rights nowadays

[meager iris]

[sleek basin]

[opaque ridge]

Paired with nanaknight

[meager iris]

combustion exist?

[ripe stag]

5 times ?

[deft apex]

ye

[ripe stag]

Ok

[ripe stag]

Then full core passive > ult 2 ?

[deft apex]

hold ult after the 5 times

[ripe stag]

Oh

So what I was doing

[zenith thorn]

these people are not real man

[dapper skiff]

@distant wren @mighty tusk I think after I realized it, u guys should be concerned more on qu than Wanshi when ice swap comes to global

I'mma tell u, even dlt can't save up entirely from it

I ain't kidding

[vocal fulcrum]

is there no warzone?

[fallen jolt]

it is needed for niche kills; example: https://youtu.be/FxvMJyoa3vo?si=BgxVkXFrT63oxHMh

[zenith thorn]

closed
wz update
reopen on new patch

[fallen jolt]

however, it is otherwise no rights.

[vocal fulcrum]

what about the weekly rewards for wz?

[ripe stag]

So
Blue > tap ult > tap basic x5 > ult right?

[glass bay]

U think kuso care about ur lost rotation rewards

[zenith thorn]

either compesated or the new wz will have the rewards scaled ide

[deft apex]

(Blue > tap ult) x5 > ult

[ripe stag]

Where is Tap Basic

Isn't that what the orb refund and ts damage comes from for her

[vocal fulcrum]

i see i hope we get compensated thats like missing half of wz for 3 weeks

[deft apex]

dunno anything about basic attacking with hanying

maybe ask someone more dalao, probably setsu or empress

[ripe stag]

Ping setsu

[glass bay]

[ripe stag]

He doesn't show up in my ping list

[astral marsh]

What's the memory for ss sigless balter? Leeuen or cottie?

[ripe stag]

4 Charlotte 2 Catherine

[distant wren]

Qu orbs? Yea first swap in might have problems and need reset lmao
But once that's done subsequent swaps are fine tho

[nova forum]

Should I build DPS set for alisa

[ripe stag]

No

[astral marsh]

Catherine? Really?

[ripe stag]

Yea cuz next patch is just 1 day far

She becomes Sub-DPS Catherine holder

[astral marsh]

So what's the team?

[raw swift]

[astral marsh]

Rosetta replaced? Or is it Alisa?

[astral helm]

What should I use all my phantom moon currenzie on, my 3 char already got the best resonance,

[distant wren]

Oh the 1st reply is the same dude who once said elite is competitive lmao

[zenith thorn]

no wonder he says elite is competitive then :omgeakek:

[distant wren]

Funnily enough elite is now the lowest rank once u hit lv80

Competitive indeed

[livid lark]

they're going to have a harsh wake up call

[deft apex]

or not

[livid lark]

when all of the easy people appear there

[raw swift]

Rosetta replacement

[livid lark]

ahh yea or not

[hasty badge]

does the new hanying make the phsical top 1 dps team?

[livid lark]

and they'll forever remain ignorant

[astral marsh]

Sedge

[visual topaz]

No

[livid lark]

wouldnt matter if it did

[astral marsh]

What if... I just skip her? :)

[zenith thorn]

anyone have the rigor vs hanying shred pasta

[livid lark]

so you're happy to skip certain weeks as well right?

[raw swift]

U will get bricked if u do

[visual topaz]

Then You'll get stomped in any Phys and trueslash related content

[hasty badge]

just a thought, maybe she will be viable on hamlet

[zenith thorn]

she's slow

[astral marsh]

Nah balter would win solo 🤲🏻

[distant wren]

Lol

[livid lark]

idk if you know this but uh... we have a new exppc boss appearing next paatch

[vale raft]

Skych

Weakness: Frail (Physical)

Zone Type: EXPPC

Start Time: 5.25s

Difficulty: Hell

HP: 19,000,000
Super Armor: 0
Extra Damage Reduction: 0.0%
Defence: 1,500
Phys Resist: 0.0%
Fire Resist: 20.0%
Light Resist: 20.0%
Ice Resist: 20.0%
Dark Resist: 20.0%

[zenith thorn]

SOLO BALTER EZ

[astral marsh]

I'm broke, don't have enough to guarantee both wanshi and her

[hasty badge]

oof then I guess the fish still win on it

[distant wren]

Bro wanshi is free

[meager iris]

[livid lark]

you're not supposed to pull wanshi

[meager iris]

balter he said

[livid lark]

where did you get that idea from

[dawn cloak]

Only 3??
Build for all your element team
Look here for what you need https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/663286717985456157

[astral marsh]

Eh why?

[distant wren]

Get wanshi from dorm dispatch

[livid lark]

wdym why he's free from the dorm

[meager iris]

cuz he is free?

[distant wren]

Don't use bc on him

[astral marsh]

Demmmmn

[livid lark]

just like alisa and kaleido

[raw swift]

[astral marsh]

I didn't knew mb

[livid lark]

was that not made clear already

[vale raft]

Current Roadmap (as of Feb 18th 2025)

[buoyant hornet]

Hanying: main dps (assuming SS + sig)
Stigmata: sub dps
Alisa: cooldown filling or if she's SSS she can do a full rotation before hanying is back online

[astral marsh]

I didn't look at release dates and stuff. I'm a returning player. Quit after pulling feral

[livid lark]

green background means free

im preeetttyyy sure it's been asked more than once this week already

[buoyant hornet]

Guys what's ss + dlt hanying double rot duration in-game? (Approximately)

[astral marsh]

Lilith also free. Nice

[buoyant hornet]

Can it theoretically be done within lingya 8s buff?

[livid lark]

find out in 2 days

[astral marsh]

Is there even enough to pull her sig? Btw what do I run on dark. I'm still using 21, leap rozen, leap astral

[distant wren]

Or watch snazz vids

[buoyant hornet]

Ig it's not easy to pick up because the line indicating it is slapped right after the previous line so it's easy to miss

[livid lark]

yea ok fair

[buoyant hornet]

It's gonna be hype

[astral helm]

That's because I only got 3 s char, I'm still new

[astral marsh]

Wrong server buddy?

[distant wren]

Wrong server bro

[opaque ridge]

Build changli

[onyx palm]

🗿

[livid lark]

look

[vale raft]

PGR Stat Priority

Physical Damage

1. DEF/Phys DEF Down(only up to 100%)
2. Physical Resist Down
3. Extra DMG Reduction Down
4. Crit DMG
5. Extra DMG Boost (EDB)
6. Base DMG % Up
7. ATK % Up
8. Final ATK Up (Cub ATK Boost)

Elemental Damage

1. Elemental Resist Down
2. Extra DMG Reduction Down
3. Extra DMG Boost (EDB)
4. Elemental DMG % Up
5. Base DMG % Up
6. ATK % Up
7. Final ATK Up (Cub ATK Boost)

[onyx palm]

Damn kuro making 2 peak games

[distant wren]

Run before mods come here

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah f2p can pull for sigs but how many you can get depends on luck + wise BC usage

[rocky umbra]

enough investment for daren?

[buoyant hornet]

F2p can usually get most of the top priority sigs although if you join late you might need to wait before you start pulling too many sigs

[astral marsh]

I'm at like 21 pull in the wep banner. Just pulled Luna and her sig and I have like 7k left now

[livid lark]

r1?

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah

[dawn cloak]

Farm for future S rank too
You'll pull them all anyway
And this event is 3x per 30 serum, so best to dump all your serum on this event, next event is 2x only
Providing you bought the memories
Not into millions of cogs

[rocky umbra]

no

[livid lark]

oof

actually...

[buoyant hornet]

Does she NEED dlt?

[livid lark]

maybe post leap she'll be easier to use

[buoyant hornet]

I mean yeah

[vague nebula]

yeah

[livid lark]

do you want to suffer trying to get 2x 3p at least to charge up?

[rocky umbra]

I have my lamia tho

r1

[raw swift]

[short rock]

incase this helps anyone, if you are buying cogs, buy normal cogs, not the packs, it is cheaper

[livid lark]

you can still do lamia solo actually
just that you can't swap to scire

again, this could change after the leap

[vague nebula]

[zenith thorn]

meffs in my pgro

[livid lark]

but as it stands right now you can't swap to scire

[visual fable]

do teh S rank selector on the regular banner get refreshed?

[meager iris]

yeah but imagine buying it 200 times * 999

[dawn cloak]

We cogsmaxxing now

[livid lark]

ishmael patch
and no it does not stack

[short rock]

not that bad really, it is 12% more cogs, quite significant

[zenith thorn]

who says you have to buy it

just leave it be
insta coggillionaire

[meager iris]

[buoyant hornet]

You can aim for hanying sig but you might have to cope with 5* wanshi weapon depending on how your economy is looking (his sig isn't the highest priority since he's functional without it, it's mainly a noticable dmg output boost)

Future units after wanshi need sig more (lucia pyrooath, ishmael parhelion for example)

[raw swift]

why not I just buy both

[astral marsh]

Alright, thanks

[buoyant hornet]

(you could also snag wanshi weapon early pity if you're lucky enough, fingers crossed)

[meager iris]

don't they give you worse rate if you got it on mail?

[hasty badge]

what should I run for PPC scire and teddy? got no lantern

[zenith thorn]

..idk

[meager iris]

time to test it on you

[zenith thorn]

using luna?

[raw swift]

how's ur day

[hasty badge]

lamia

[astral marsh]

Between epitaph, empy, feral, kaleido, echo who do I prio for SS, just saved enough for one character ss, or should I just save?

[buoyant hornet]

4bathlon 2eins on karen and 4dv 2guin on teddy

[zenith thorn]

4bath2ein
4db2guin

[buoyant hornet]

There's no space for lantern here lol

[zenith thorn]

sorry i already bought cogs

[vague nebula]

xl pack only gives 100k?

[visual fable]

thanks

[meager iris]

[wispy robin]

hanying>wata, forget about ssing everyone else

[buoyant hornet]

Even with harmo daren you'd be better off running gloria

[rocky umbra]

these are my current shenanigans

[raw swift]

yeee 100k

[short rock]

ye

[astral marsh]

Alright

[hasty badge]

Whats the harmony for scire on this?

[vague nebula]

sleepy day. yours?

[livid lark]

4 boone 4 bath (wz)
4 dv 4 bath (ppc)

[vague nebula]

time to buy smol pack cogs

[buoyant hornet]

Prioritize hanying, wanshi you can temporarily settle for his ss0 using vouchers until you eventually accumulate excess skulls to buy his ppc shards

[raw swift]

same

[vague nebula]

[raw swift]

tho imma buy lots of cogs cuz why not

[round bear]

I did that honestly

[raw swift]

[buoyant hornet]

Unfortunately aside from lilith, even free units aren't exactly "saving patches" unless since they still usually need ppc skulls and/or sig pulls

[vague nebula]

[astral marsh]

I see thanks

[vague nebula]

tldr: this is a whel game

[buoyant hornet]

Which is why kuro needs to stop spamming us with S ranks unless the future FREE S ranks are ACTUALLY free like Lilith

[rocky umbra]

agree

us f2p have to work hard every single day

[nova forum]

People want jet to be s rank btw

[thorn creek]

I agree she should’ve been

[round bear]

Eh

[wispy robin]

even lilith is not 100% free because she needs dlt

[dawn cloak]

Work hard irl instead and spend the money in pgr

[zenith thorn]

4bath2gloria2ein

[buoyant hornet]

Which is insane to me like do they know what they're asking for

[zenith thorn]

4dv4bath also works

[buoyant hornet]

Does she??

[raw swift]

true, what are rights anyways

[rocky umbra]

not to brag but i really dont need to work

[zenith thorn]

with 2guin2ein2gloris teddy

[vague nebula]

[wispy robin]

well ofc she does, did you see the orb consumption

[vague nebula]

[zenith thorn]

do you think they care?

[raw swift]

[buoyant hornet]

I thought she just poops orbs like lamia or something

[dawn cloak]

Oil King

[zenith thorn]

like this is the kind of people that would ask jet as S

[rocky umbra]

we have oil in our backyard

[astral marsh]

Who's leap so I prio?

[dawn cloak]

careful, better hide it

[livid lark]

i lost brain cells please delete

[zenith thorn]

please lose more braincells

[livid lark]

no u

[buoyant hornet]

Wait what's Lilith's orb economy without dlt?

[hybrid goblet]

oiled up rei when?

[zenith thorn]

i have no braincells

[buoyant hornet]

Is it completely crippled or just slower?

[wispy robin]

you need dlt for double ult in dark, not sure if it's needed in ion tho

[buoyant hornet]

I mean they give us 3 free resos and she's already high priority for wep resos because longevity so I'm gonna r1 her anyway

[livid lark]

jokes aside the fact that there's upvotes for those replies makes me sick

[buoyant hornet]

Potentially r2 if dark tank is good enough to deserve it

[astral marsh]

Anyone? I just returned to the game this patch and there seems to be a lot of characters that got leaped. So who I prio?

[raw swift]

[wispy robin]

optimally you need r3 tho cause 2 amp reso + dlt
free char btw

[zenith thorn]

noone is really a priority right now,so save it

especially since you just started

maybe empyrea is a good one to start

[livid lark]

i would say scire if anyone

empyrea is just damage and quicker rotation

[astral marsh]

So I do scire then empy?

[buoyant hornet]

I mean the buff resos ARE optional and she already has insane buff values so I won't be pulling my hair over having to use just dlt

[livid lark]

scire leap is next patch

but it should make her easier to use afaik

for garnet it's a bit late since nanaknight is arriving soon

[astral marsh]

So what do I use for my dark team? S0 scire SSS+ rozen and SSS+ leap astral. Can I use teddy anywhere? I picked epitaph from the free standard selector

[wispy robin]

btw if your scire is broke and you planning r2-r3 ish, you can use ish instead for those amp resos 🐴

[night sigil]

Sss+ teddy has longer buffs than rozen

[livid lark]

is your teddy s+

[buoyant hornet]

I guess the highest priority would be scire (next patch, temporarily needed for ion affix warzone) then empyrea if yours isn't just base S

[astral marsh]

We got her free to SSS+ no?

[livid lark]

ya just checking

[astral marsh]

Mine is base s...

[night sigil]

Yes and be quick to get it because it'll be gone

[buoyant hornet]

I never even thought of that but yeah one of my accs is stuck with 5* trashcire

Even with r0 Ishmael would be already better 💀

[livid lark]

ok if you do have her s+ replace rozen with her

[astral marsh]

I see

So she just qte bot?

[buoyant hornet]

Not worth leap rn then

[livid lark]

she'll do much more damage than your rozen since she's much more recent but actually you'll just want her just to qte

[buoyant hornet]

Ig yeah

[flint igloo]

I leaped my empyrea totally at base S

[livid lark]

may still be worth trying to leap scire at base s0

[astral marsh]

I got SS sig garnet. Do I leap her? :)

[livid lark]

i dont know what that's like tho

[night sigil]

You're not alone

[livid lark]

you can if you want but you only have a few months to enjoy it

[buoyant hornet]

They don't have lamia or laurel so teddy is actually main dps for their case 😭😭