📨・meta-help

[restive karma]

the last one is hard to beat without reaching the power limit which is 8k

[meager iris]

@visual topaz another eu whel is gone

[normal sierra]

ye, ban those accounts as well while we are at it

[ripe stag]

Me should skip Hanying for CW coating frfr

[meager iris]

[sick flower]

CRIMSON ABBYS CANT GET 6500 BEFORE 90 LEVEL???????

[ripe stag]

?

[normal sierra]

she can, and we can't get lvl 90

[sick flower]

no we can

we can literally go beyond 100 what you on 💀

[normal sierra]

brah, account level got absolutely no connection to bp, so how you even get to that conclusion?

[sick flower]

i never said it does

[barren plank]

He thought u meant character level

[normal sierra]

so what was your question about then?

[sick flower]

i mean

hold on let me take ss

[restive karma]

WHO

[barren plank]

[carmine reef]

Wtf is going on

[barren plank]

Beats me

[restive karma]

idk i need to know qu harmony set

[barren plank]

4Chen

[shadow holly]

chen

[ripe stag]

4 Chen Jiyuan 4 Ji Bo'an

[barren plank]

2Cottie 2Darwin for some PPC starts but u can worry ab that later

[restive karma]

ah ok

[sick flower]

i hypertuned all the resonances and fully upgraded all the skills for crimson abbys but she couldnt reach 6500

[carmine reef]

Well its not 4chen if you harmo wanshi

[ripe stag]

And from next patch if you can invest in Wanshi
Qu does 2 Chen Jiyuan 2 Darwin

[shadow holly]

that set wouldnt even be relevant under a certain point in investment cuz u cant kill the bosses fast enough

[sick flower]

what am i supposed to do to make her 6500

i did everything

[carmine reef]

And this is the last ice wz before wanshi

So if you're gonna harmo wanshi there's no need to harmo chen on qu rn

[shadow holly]

4chen is still good
i mean theres a reason why a lot of good players still run 4chen on qu

[restive karma]

i already have her harmo

[ripe stag]

Won't 2 Darwin have more buff

[restive karma]

i was just making sure it was right

[sick flower]

@normal sierra tell me 😭

[vale raft]

Darwin ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

For every orb pinged, Extra DMG Bonus increases by 3% for 4s. Can be stacked up to 5 times. Duration resets every time it is triggered.

4pc Set Bonus

Records the color of Signal Orbs pinged. When all 3 colors is recorded, unleashes a 12m shockwave that deals 600% Physical DMG and resets the record.

ATK

129

CRIT

67

DEF

218

HP

1491

[thorn creek]

but ideally harmo wanshi will have 4 chen and qu will have 2 chen 2 darwin?

[ripe stag]

Oh no

[vale raft]

Chen Jiyuan ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

ATK increases by 3% and Ice DMG increases by 7%.

4pc Set Bonus

Extra DMG Bonus increases by 10%. Attacking a target inflicts them with Frost, which decreases the target's Ice Resistance by 15%. Frost lasts for 8s and has a 10s cooldown against the same target. Attacking a target inflicted with Frost causes Ice Explosion that deals 600% Ice DMG. This effect has a 6s cooldown against the same target.

ATK

134

CRIT

64

DEF

223

HP

1491

[ripe stag]

10% perma EDB

[normal sierra]

dunno, what's your current bp?
I have 6k+ with only bottom HT and lvl 1 weapon

[shadow holly]

perma edb, the additional damage procs, and also better consistency with shred

if anything, it would be at least equal

if not better

[ripe stag]

Btw if you aren't using 4 Chen

[shadow holly]

also wanshi shred field is only 12s duration so if a new wave spawns at the end of qu rot ur cooked

[restive karma]

could be the zones? that gives the orb boost and stuff

[ripe stag]

Shouldn't something like Aileen be better ?

[meager iris]

what will be stigmata build next patch?

[carmine reef]

Just have 3s wanshi

[thorn creek]

das the plan

[normal sierra]

yeah, rank up to SS and you have 6.5k
but why you need 6.5k?

[shadow holly]

unfortunately people running 4chen do have 3s wanshi

[thorn creek]

so better qu still have 4 chen after i SSS wanshi?

[shadow holly]

jfc just wait for the update to come and test both

[shadow holly]

paper warriors

[normal sierra]

what is that?

[thorn creek]

I

[restive karma]

ultima

[shadow holly]

they want infinitas

[normal sierra]

ohh

[restive karma]

^

[sick flower]

i need to awaken her so i can start with 3 blue orbs

[carmine reef]

Ultima SLASH

[sick flower]

which is the only way to actually make her good

[normal sierra]

wait, didn't they lower the bp for that?

[shadow holly]

good

[sick flower]

i might be a sht player but im good with ca!!!!

[shadow holly]

they lowered for ultima iirc

not infinitas

[carmine reef]

I'm pressing X

[normal sierra]

ohh, I see

well then you will have to SS her, although that's not really a good investment at this point in the game

[carmine reef]

You dont need to ss for 6.5k

Just need 5* r3 wep

[sick flower]

does this increase bp?

[normal sierra]

that could work too, 3r 5* weap gives more bp than r0 sig weap

[carmine reef]

Yeah

[sick flower]

so i was correct

[carmine reef]

I know cause i did my fake ht on a bunch of S 5* units

[sick flower]

i need 90 level

[restive karma]

what lol

[normal sierra]

no, that doesn't give bp at all

[barren plank]

They just said u need a 3resod 5* wep

[normal sierra]

just get a 5* sword for her and make it 3 reso

[sick flower]

im close btw

[river nymph]

[normal sierra]

this doesn't give bp

[restive karma]

ss luna

[thorn creek]

isnt it like a 150 bp increase?

[sick flower]

it what

[barren plank]

Level does nothing for BP

[sick flower]

IT WHAT

[carmine reef]

Spoken like someone's who's never struggled to infinitas

[normal sierra]

I dunno how much, I just know that it gives more than a r0 6*

[barren plank]

It does nothing for BP
He told u that before too

[thorn creek]

[carmine reef]

Whels

[restive karma]

^

[sick flower]

i hate this game

[thorn creek]

same

[barren plank]

Quit then, it's never too late

[sick flower]

hell no

[normal sierra]

[sick flower]

i got banned from poc i cant return

[carmine reef]

For S rank you need 5* r3 wep and max most skills to just barely hit 6.5k

[thorn creek]

there's only one thing i like in this game

[barren plank]

Wtf is poc

[carmine reef]

Path of cockxile

[sick flower]

worst low of combat

[thorn creek]

plash of clans

[normal sierra]

roasted 🐟 ?

[thorn creek]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[normal sierra]

[barren plank]

Anyways, is my rot wrong, or do I just lack damage

[thorn creek]

uhhh wazzat build?

[nova forum]

BruH that bear on w22 is bs

[restive karma]

both

[thorn creek]

no resos?

[sick flower]

how many of this do i need to make her 6500?

[nova forum]

[carmine reef]

Bruh

[thorn creek]

[carmine reef]

[barren plank]

5 STAR WEAPON

[normal sierra]

wrong qte timing
4 guine cow needs a weird timing

[sick flower]

what

NO I DIDNT SEE IT OH MY GOD

[thorn creek]

that only works on 6* weps

[sick flower]

ITS 5 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[thorn creek]

[barren plank]

Oh what do u do

[shy jackal]

[sick flower]

you guys ruin my motivation

grrrr

[shy jackal]

[thorn creek]

alpha players so good

[carmine reef]

I mean its not so weird

[barren plank]

Bruh hwb u read next time instead

[normal sierra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1lhkobbFLw
something like this

[summer topaz]

base s what do you expect

[normal sierra]

you use glory qte sooner, then the 2nd cow qte a bit later

[carmine reef]

You just need to double qte for 4guin

[normal sierra]

not that simple if you need every little dmg

[nova forum]

Ok now I'm ready to slacc

[restive karma]

should i ss qu right now?

[carmine reef]

Why not

[restive karma]

she’s s5

[carmine reef]

Qu needs ss

[restive karma]

people keep saying save for ss solacetune

[carmine reef]

You will get them both ss eventually

[restive karma]

truth

[carmine reef]

Why not prio the one you're already playing

[round bear]

[nova forum]

Will we get blue rose eventually

[thorn creek]

no

[nova forum]

[carmine reef]

Qu needs the ss badly

[night sigil]

Should i leave my lamia at S0 with no sig/cub

[carmine reef]

Why

[restive karma]

yea that’s true i still need to ss lamia and epitaph too 😭

[night sigil]

New characters = Meta

[carmine reef]

Epitaph needs it the least

So thats smth

[thorn creek]

lamia is least priority out of all of them

[restive karma]

word?

[carmine reef]

SS is free

[restive karma]

so should i leave them both at s?

[night sigil]

I don't wanna spend skulls on her if wanshi is coming

[carmine reef]

You're not hindering your new character outlook by getting SS

[restive karma]

both have harmo

[carmine reef]

Your account would gain more by boosting dark's solo carry

Than by boosting the ice sub dps who is already voucherable

[night sigil]

But my ice is bricked and i need to expand it

[nova forum]

Just pay 3x

[thorn creek]

^

[restive karma]

[night sigil]

No money

I won't spend

[nova forum]

Just work 3x

[wispy robin]

don't forget that you will need to save 900 skulls for nana ish patch

[restive karma]

and sleep 0x

[night sigil]

[nova forum]

F2p friendly game btw

[restive karma]

why?

[night sigil]

So ill leave my lamia at base S0 then

[round bear]

me who is going to pull Lamia next after after Solacetune:

I'm doing what I wanted to do during her patch since I did stop during her patch

[wispy robin]

wdym why, they are both paid s ranks in 1 patch 🐴

[night sigil]

More teams = More power

[round bear]

as long as I clear weekly modes lmao

[thorn creek]

based

i approve

[restive karma]

yea but why 900 skulls

[round bear]

:o alright lmao

[wispy robin]

they give you 100 free in feral bp

[thorn creek]

^

[carmine reef]

Bp isnt free

[wispy robin]

just for 68rc more you can get extra 400 tho

[nova forum]

Very f2p friendly

[restive karma]

i don’t think we are on same page

[normal sierra]

P*nzu: "fk whels"

[night sigil]

There's also benched alpha with sig/cub for free

[round bear]

oop

[restive karma]

SS, 2 characters isn’t 900 skulls?

[thorn creek]

normally 1000

[round bear]

what

interesting

[night sigil]

So wait why 900

[thorn creek]

but there's free 100 from feral bp like kimika said

[carmine reef]

Bc 100 free

[thorn creek]

so u only need 900 by then

[carmine reef]

"Free"

[night sigil]

Oh

[thorn creek]

FREE

^^^

[carmine reef]

Still so hilarious to say "free in bp"

[restive karma]

bp like $12

[thorn creek]

[restive karma]

or something

[thorn creek]

wait wasn't 100 skulls in cw pack?

[cold walrus]

400 is free too

[thorn creek]

i forgor

[nova forum]

Just pay 3x

[wispy robin]

100 skulls in free bp 400 skulls in paid bp

[night sigil]

So we should save atleast 2k ppc as f2p

[nova forum]

So much drama for a simple problem

[restive karma]

there’s free skulls for 648rc right now

[nova forum]

F2p friendly game btw

[carmine reef]

Keep going

Save 5k skulls

[round bear]

[meager iris]

anyone did a guide to hanying?

[night sigil]

[nova forum]

I'm at 25% from it

[cold walrus]

$10 isn't that much cost tbh

[round bear]

hmmm

yeah $10 isn't much

[nova forum]

Currently at 1.5k

[thorn creek]

$100 isn't much either

[restive karma]

truth

[night sigil]

Currently at 100 cuz luna obl ate my skulls

[thorn creek]

just another 0

[round bear]

suppose so

[restive karma]

1000 isnt much

[carmine reef]

Send me $100 then

[round bear]

100000000000000000000

[thorn creek]

tru

[round bear]

lmfao

[normal sierra]

look em whels, soon they be 1k$ isn't much-ing

[round bear]

haha Ig so

[nova forum]

[thorn creek]

3k rc spent isn't much either

[night sigil]

And they'll only spend it on 1 team

[cold walrus]

Send your btc id

[normal sierra]

not much total in 4 years

[night sigil]

[round bear]

[thorn creek]

[night sigil]

Evil livs

[thorn creek]

damn i gotta step it up

[round bear]

fr

[thorn creek]

lemme ask my bank for credit limit increase

[round bear]

pffft-

[nova forum]

Just rob a grave

[night sigil]

Medieval trick

[carmine tapir]

I somehow can't level my weapons in pgr, everytime I do it only say ' add the cost first', even if I have it added. Can someone help me out here?

[night sigil]

Maybe you're out materials or the weapon exp

[thorn creek]

it means ur out of exp to sacrifice

[carmine tapir]

I checked it thrice, but I have evrything

[thorn creek]

either that or ur missing the lvl limit upgrade mats

like the rock, stick, bottle, etc.

[night sigil]

Look for the weapon exp in your items

[thorn creek]

i forgor the name

[round bear]

I feel like I did teambuilding weirdly, phys > ice > lightning > dark > fire > nihil

[nova forum]

Absolutely no fire

Wonderful

[night sigil]

You need to be slapped with fire

[round bear]

I swear I'll do fire after dark

LMAO

[thorn creek]

feesh comes first

until powercrept by lilith

[round bear]

what do you think I was planning on doing, getting the entire dark team? No; I was going to pull Lamia and do Lamia solo and then get the fire team

yeah Ik about Lilith

[thorn creek]

[carmine reef]

Jetavie

[thorn creek]

https://tenor.com/view/krindž-gif-12595079621191910067

assdead?

[round bear]

lmao

[nova forum]

Dead²

[deft apex]

@visual topaz is this all the yellows for shukra's patch?

[ebon adder]

can i get an estimate of how many vouchers do we get per patch as an f2p?

[night sigil]

She'll powercrept my base S0 lamia

[ebon adder]

assuming dfm and cursed waves full cleared already

[night sigil]

Also the recitavio event

[ebon adder]

oh yeah okay assuming thats full cleared too

[night sigil]

[round bear]

hmm

[deft apex]

iirc like 5-7k vouchers

x2 I guess cuz cuz syncro

[night sigil]

I got like 7k rn so that's like 9 shards?

[ebon adder]

dangg thats not bad

not bad at all

[night sigil]

[nova forum]

[carmine reef]

(Its pretty bad)

[deft apex]

it's terrible

[ebon adder]

i thouht it would be like 2k or something

but its at least possible to 3s wanshi in a like 3 months for me (due to synchro)

[carmine reef]

Are you really that happy with 9 shards per month when it takes 90 shards to sss and we have like 7 meta voucher units to use them on

[ebon adder]

i mean what else can i do?

[normal sierra]

💳

[night sigil]

[carmine reef]

Its just funny that you were saying it's not bad lol

[round bear]

[night sigil]

Let's just cope atp

[normal sierra]

trs with his whel emotes

[carmine reef]

I miss trs

@shadow holly babe what happened to our v-day dinner

[shadow holly]

sorry it wouldve been awkward with the three of us

[carmine reef]

[round bear]

aw

[nova forum]

Give me the segs tape

[azure dock]

Is hanyings cub worth it?

[shy jackal]

for f2p, no

spenders, pretty much mandatory

it's a massive boost to crit dmg

[night sigil]

What about wanshi's cub though

I heard it's good on him

[frozen creek]

I’d go wanshi cub over hanying cub though both are substantial damage boosts

[copper fox]

is SS vera rozen better than S cappricio? Just finished farming recitativo for selena and wondering if its worth replacing rozen with her

[visual topaz]

doko

[round bear]

uhhhh

[frozen creek]

No get rozen to sss

[shy jackal]

cappucino is unfortunately garbage

[deft apex]

polaris planner

[frozen creek]

Even then you should be using teddy

[round bear]

ohy

[frozen creek]

She’s better than rozen and free to s+ rank

[shy jackal]

unfortunately also good

in the most ideal scenario you want both

[visual topaz]

lemme cross check

[deft apex]

ok

[copper fox]

oh right i forgot abou teddy 😅 ill use teddy then, thank you

[night sigil]

[visual topaz]

wait

did i smoked

[round bear]

I also remembered

[river nymph]

[visual topaz]

there should be 6.2k worth of yellow tickets

[deft apex]

[raw swift]

[visual topaz]

is that old version of sheet

[deft apex]

did u just change it or did I not read it correctly

[visual topaz]

wait no

that's misc

it concerns that returnee thing

[deft apex]

so it's 8k?

OH

[round bear]

interesting

[visual topaz]

for those who got returnees to do the stuffs yeah

[deft apex]

ok got it

[meager iris]

what is the difference between all red rotation hanying or 2 red yellow 1 red?

[visual topaz]

it's not like accessible for everyone

[deft apex]

i'll just do 6.2k then

[visual topaz]

so i excluded the count

compared to the other stuffs

[deft apex]

btw luna plan when

[visual topaz]

wait what

[copper fox]

oh btw what memories should i put on teddy for my dark team? Currently got lamia and scire

[visual topaz]

Teddy DV Guin

[copper fox]

thank you!

[visual topaz]

maybe i should finish by tonight ig

i have nearly all counts

[raw swift]

[visual topaz]

granted that i don't try to mald

[river nymph]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1232051518316740628.gif?v=1

[sand laurel]

Bambi Hanying Selena

kill them with the music team

[visual topaz]

why bambi

[sand laurel]

she dancing to the music

[visual topaz]

Plume does play harp

[sand laurel]

she what?

is that the skin?

[sand laurel]

proof?

[visual topaz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFKp82HK_Ts

[sand laurel]

thats cheating

[visual topaz]

it's not

[sand laurel]

she faking the play on instrument

lucia cant be this good fr

[visual topaz]

delusional

[sand laurel]

its been 2 years ago

even if, I bet she is rusty now

we need reliable performers

[visual topaz]

how is bambi reliable when she forgor everything

[sand laurel]

[visual topaz]

story skipper spotted

[raw swift]

[sand laurel]

im not skipper

im at chapter 12

[visual topaz]

how come you're CH12

[sand laurel]

busy with other gachas

[visual topaz]

with 88 weeks on PGR

[sand laurel]

so many games, gachas, hobbies

[frozen creek]

Skip skip skip

[sand laurel]

no energy left to digest kuro storywriting

[frozen creek]

When is wishing banned

Banner

[carmine reef]

Banned

[visual topaz]

banned

[frozen creek]

[river nymph]

^

[frozen creek]

Ban pulling on every banner apart from fate arrival

[dull gust]

when its not gacha game

[frozen creek]

[sand laurel]

can't defend myself when in middle of a match

[river nymph]

ban henry joe

[visual topaz]

@meager iris https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1L2421T7AN/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&vd_source=c7748b8aae2b6ac02901d1058f16e4ab

this week should be the same as glb i guess?

[lethal sun]

Bob Dillan

[visual topaz]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV141421Z7Vu/?spm_id_from=333.1387.upload.video_card.click&vd_source=c7748b8aae2b6ac02901d1058f16e4ab that one is week earlier onslaught

UDC Emperor Lilith

[meager iris]

bro there is no way you do this damage with global

the crit affix is just worse

[visual topaz]

dude desc says : Why is there no Lightning?

[meager iris]

even with s+ you can't do this damage and his invest is 3.6

[visual topaz]

he is full S+

[meager iris]

oh really?

[visual topaz]

reply : Everything 4

[meager iris]

isn't this his invest?

[visual topaz]

it's the week

month day

[river nymph]

[meager iris]

daim

[carmine reef]

3.10

[visual topaz]

[carmine reef]

Bruh

[visual topaz]

march 6th - 10th

2024

[meager iris]

you can mald if you want I'm not touching that sht again

[meager iris]

[visual topaz]

the sentence after is galaxy vibe

[meager iris]

@visual topaz

[visual topaz]

[meager iris]

still gives crit dmg

[visual topaz]

so you're saying CN Lamia's double week were phys dmg (with 3 weeks delay)

whilst glb was crit dmg?

[meager iris]

I'm not saying anything but you can try yourself and confirm that the damage isn't even close

[visual topaz]

i did try for hours yesterday

if i start to mald now F2P ain't seeing the patch bc planner this patch

[meager iris]

[zinc jungle]

how many neonazis have slid into your dms this week?

[meager iris]

maybe becasue of synchro some weeks got removed hence we couldn't get the phys dmg affix?

[visual topaz]

we got the same exppc lineups so far

excepts for some cut weeks

[meager iris]

then idk

I don't read anyway

[visual topaz]

elements splits for onslaught weeks were the same

[meager iris]

so the only difference is phys so far?

[visual topaz]

i guess?

first CN onslaught week

52 weeks ago

[meager iris]

[normal sierra]

[visual topaz]

2.18 is the week after

so first lamia onslaught rot

lemme check if iza made vid

[subtle zinc]

I'm pretty sure this is correct for NA global

[normal sierra]

why is the NA needed there? it's the same for all globlul servers or not?

[subtle zinc]

I dont want any ambiguity lol

[visual topaz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgVBV7DXt8o

week 1

[vague nebula]

damn i am so slow in ppc
missed 1.8m by 12k

[visual topaz]

mald again

[normal sierra]

unacceptable! time to mald some more

[vague nebula]

with what? everyone is spent

[normal sierra]

||me still on 1.5m only cuz too lazy to do hell schultz ||

[meager iris]

this first week

[visual topaz]

yeah no more vids

[meager iris]

[vague nebula]

[subtle zinc]

I really really hope fire can beat light cradle next wk

but also think that the best Ice time is going to be brutal and need lantern

[meager iris]

max invest light 22s fire 21s iirc

[subtle zinc]

its kind of hard to say

[meager iris]

but light is ez tho

[vague nebula]

[subtle zinc]

I just want to use my pulse Xd

[meager iris]

[subtle zinc]

[vague nebula]

[meager iris]

@visual topaz cradle fire 21s right?

you are the only one mald fire

[visual topaz]

watafak

[subtle zinc]

was that the Epi shake rotation with liv and pulse

or was it cottie

[visual topaz]

i coped because i refused to play crimson weeb

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1335657545645428808/petal_20250202_180449.mp4?ex=67b21b06&is=67b0c986&hm=e86da7133eccc3899430282fd0ced862f9d76393898450740c6c6abe9b411e61&

[meager iris]

well cw is unplayable sss with ib

[visual topaz]

22s

can go faster

[subtle zinc]

wait why use that Nanamiii

[visual topaz]

cuz I'm not whel like you

[subtle zinc]

im confused now does

[visual topaz]

if i had pulse maybe 18s possible

[subtle zinc]

oh ok i understand

best 2nd option to harmonized with sig pulse

[visual topaz]

rn empy 4 shakes borrowed + Elizabeth

to do that kill

[meager iris]

but pulse can't proc deer quick right

[visual topaz]

with higher pulse invest i could do pulse sig reso + harmo and switch wata to full dmg reso whilst empy carries 4 guin instead

[visual topaz]

EDB vs Fire Sig Shred

[carmine reef]

ew deflecting whel allegations to someone else is crazy work

[visual topaz]

• Empy healer memos

[meager iris]

[visual topaz]

i actually had fun that week

trying a lot of fire build

on fraudle

[subtle zinc]

same

[meager iris]

3.1 uncle 26

with luna lmao

[visual topaz]

Fire?

[meager iris]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46o34XoYBp8&t=199s

[visual topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[meager iris]

yeah

I'm not surprised tbh since 3.1 fire already suck against cradle

323 ice 29s

[subtle zinc]

is that qu glory ayla?

[river nymph]

🍍

[meager iris]

to get better fire I need s+ liv

ggs next week slack for me

[visual topaz]

blue dupe orb tech oml

[meager iris]

yeah

[visual topaz]

Liv is kyut

she dealt 10 HP bar on cradle

[subtle zinc]

🍍 is translation or such slang?

[visual topaz]

without the good resos

[meager iris]

sure but I can't afford s+ with this economy

[visual topaz]

pull on wishing banner

like me

[meager iris]

I still want lucia s+

if I have enough vouchers for some shards I may do that

but else I will just pass

qte bot anyway with lucia

[subtle zinc]

this vid makes me not concerned for Ice or fire hehe

I really hope dark orb dupe stuff isnt there though

[visual topaz]

it is here

[meager iris]

this sss invest probably 444 invest is different

[visual topaz]

9 orb after ult 2

[subtle zinc]

since this is a under 4s invest feature

[river nymph]

[meager iris]

just slack I'm not doing orb dupe with sht score from both fire and ice

[visual topaz]

i saw orb dupe tech

i tried during that first cradle week

i never got it once

even if i understand the gist

[meager iris]

[subtle zinc]

The thing is, if its better, must learn it now bc it will best for every dark week

[meager iris]

yeah you want me to do all that crazy sht and someone slack dark with s+ and get 1s better than mine

[visual topaz]

the caption hinting on orb dupe

[meager iris]

I will kms

[ruby minnow]

ew fighting himself for that 1s

[dull gust]

alright i saw shukras ultimate wtf man

https://tenor.com/view/its-peak-old-man-shaking-head-gif-3938163323164042530

[visual topaz]

wait it's not orb dupe tech

it's charge bug

how broken is Lamia

[meager iris]

how bugged you mean

[visual topaz]

jesus

3S need to do blue orb tech + followup charge bug

[glass bay]

U seem to enjoy this more than wuwa

[glass bay]

How much stronger is s+ than sss generally

[dull gust]

wuwa dont have baller ultimate like that they trynna be genshin cant put long ass Q in time gated content

[meager iris]

day and night

[glass bay]

Pgr gameplay animations are good I guess

[meager iris]

dark s+ is just built different

[glass bay]

30%?

[meager iris]

idk exact number

[dull gust]

https://tenor.com/view/qu-pgr-pgr-qu-qu-pgr-shukra-gif-15111853919684542259

tell me one ultimate in wuwa that tops this

[glass bay]

What does it feel like

[glass bay]

Wuwa chars are much weaker than pgr chars tho

[visual topaz]

3s 4s uncle no diff in hero, legend later waves still mostly like butter for him

[dull gust]

thats not what i asked

[glass bay]

We don't have have chars this strong in lore

[dull gust]

we have female goku that does 2 kamehameha

[meager iris]

the least difference between sss3 and s+ imo is luna

[visual topaz]

3s vs 4s Qukra more dmg in every ult be it iceberg cut or fast ppc strat rot

[meager iris]

almost the same

[visual topaz]

Lamia S+ is plain racism

[glass bay]

I think even Lucia lotus can beat her

[visual topaz]

form switch and pretty high orb dmg between SSS0 vs S+

[dull gust]

im not powerscaling but she shoulda have baller ult like shukra

[glass bay]

I'm saying they cant make over the top animations for weak chars

[meager iris]

[dull gust]

what kinda dumb reason is that

[meager iris]

all dark tbh

[dull gust]

[glass bay]

Check out early char movesets they aren't this crazy

[meager iris]

selena better energy mroe damage, daren perfect start more ult damage, lamia better with every single thing

[glass bay]

So just dark?

[dull gust]

so u are saying late game wuwa gonna get those ?

[glass bay]

The char movesets evolved with their stronger frames

[glass bay]

Maybe

[dull gust]

alright anyways PGR ult > wuwa ult

too baller

[ruby minnow]

i mean you cant throw PGR style ults in open world games

[dull gust]

u can

[visual topaz]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Tx4y1278f/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&vd_source=c7748b8aae2b6ac02901d1058f16e4ab

[ruby minnow]

same case is going on with hoyo

[gritty coyote]

how can I improve my dark team?
should I replace no.21 with Daren? (I could get her from the S-rank selector, but I'm asking if it's worth the investment)

[dull gust]

hoyo just trash lets not talk about them

[visual topaz]

first lamia week clip

from the date

[glass bay]

Any other teams with such huge strength diff with s+ other than dark?

[meager iris]

ice

[visual topaz]

Qu at S+ kills nearly everything

[glass bay]

Really?

[visual topaz]

as long as u apply ice shred

[glass bay]

Is that just qu

[visual topaz]

just solely coming from qu

[meager iris]

yeah qu alone is enough

[glass bay]

[visual topaz]

in CN when wanshe released the score cap of 9999999 got hit

making devs increase the score limit

[glass bay]

[gritty coyote]

anybody?

[meager iris]

the rest are just good but not crazy difference

[raw swift]

[glass bay]

So qu and dark

[visual topaz]

S+ CW gives rights in lightning content

[meager iris]

but still sht

[visual topaz]

you can dslit like me but she doesn't kill anything in ppc

[glass bay]

Isn't s+ cw just more ult dmg

[visual topaz]

except for knight

[visual topaz]

it's fine

[river nymph]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1255033208668426251.gif?quality=lossless&name=SparkleFunky&size=48

[gritty coyote]

[visual topaz]

that's the thing

[river nymph]

i wonder if we will get the wz cap increase on launch

[visual topaz]

you don't kill high hp bosses in ppc without S+ CW

[visual topaz]

might be plausible

considering we got dorm early cap increase

[river nymph]

[glass bay]

Omegawhels already trying to break score limit

[unborn hound]

which perk to put in resonance for sig?

[glass bay]

[visual topaz]

orb reso

shred reso for tank

healer reso for amp

[river nymph]

[visual topaz]

most common ones

[unborn hound]

dead line timing for dps then ?

[visual topaz]

yes

if they're orb hungry

[unique tiger]

Who is s hanying replacing?

[raw swift]

Rosetta

[visual topaz]

Rigor in general content

[unique tiger]

Alright bet

I dont have rigor so my bianca chillin lol

[meager iris]

I need to change my ult key before hanying

[glass bay]

I'm gonna keep my rose sig

[meager iris]

I can't click mouse scroll wheel 2000 times for wz

[visual topaz]

damn obez

[meager iris]

last one before poverty

[subtle zinc]

does she have a hold and tap ult like luna or something?

[meager iris]

kinda

you have to press ult multiple times then hold

[subtle zinc]

lol

[wispy robin]

nice norman reset 1 day before patch ends, at least somewhere we won

[meager iris]

how many normans you got this patch?

[sand laurel]

?

[wispy robin]

well the first norman did reset 1 day before patch started, so i guess 3?

[meager iris]

so 3 triple rewards norman

yeah I assume every patch will have 3 normans ig

[zinc jungle]

that number combination has certain connotations

since the 8th letter of the alphabet is H

[wispy robin]

nice i wasn't sniped, the one 3s whale i was worried about scored 4m somehow

[remote pier]

[shy jackal]

she will be literally, since hanying replaces her as phys team main dps

[glass bay]

Light gonna be in pitiful state compared to ice next patch

[wispy robin]

pretty much everything will be, only void can come close

[unique tiger]

wait bianca also getting replaced?

[subtle zinc]

you still use stigmata with hanying and echo

[shy jackal]

no, just relegated to sub-dps

but in terms of who's gonna be on the field most of the time doing damage, yes

[wispy robin]

do u have both echo and stigmata sigs

[lyric dune]

When is base banner target up coming?

[shy jackal]

ishmael patch

[vale raft]

Current Roadmap (as of Feb 15th 2025)

[lyric dune]

My dumbass bought 10 shards for Daren

[shy jackal]

yikes

[lyric dune]

I only have enough PPC skulls for one SS now

💀

[pulsar viper]

How good is sss qu compared to ss qu

[sharp dew]

thats so sad

[lyric dune]

💀

I thought her S5 was something else

[sharp dew]

im more dumbass tho. i just spread my skulls thin between lamia and oblivion and daren.

now i have em all awkwardly at s3-s8

[lyric dune]

I'm pretty sure oblivion and Lamia still have decent s5

Daren S5 is useless lol

[sharp dew]

meh im planning to ss anyways so it wont matter xd

[sharp dew]

daren needs ss3 to be playable tbh. before that shes a qte bot

[lyric dune]

My dark team is so bad I couldn't even get the fourth PPC task

[sharp dew]

thats actually wild

[lyric dune]

Idk if I'm just bad

[round bear]

I didn't cause I only had 2 teams lmfao

[unborn hound]

.....what is harmony?

[lyric dune]

What's the average f2p clearing?

[round bear]

I would assume a f2p player can clear all ppc stages for the weekly bc

[sharp dew]

i have two teams too but i just cleared with bambinata LMAO

[lyric dune]

Clash reflection stuff u can add 2 more memories buff to weapon

[round bear]

I need reset

[sharp dew]

yes.

[lyric dune]

Go to weapon page it will show. Clear clash reflection which comes every 2 weeks for the currency

[round bear]

Then I can smack enemies around with my scuffed lightning team, aight ice team, invested phys team lmao

[lyric dune]

???

[sharp dew]

if u cant ur acc and skill is just bricked

[lyric dune]

Bro I'm not talking about that task lol

[round bear]

^

[lyric dune]

???

[round bear]

And I don't care about scores so ask someone else

[lyric dune]

I'm not talking about weekly BC task

[round bear]

Ik what you meant

[lyric dune]

I'm talking about the score tasks

[sharp dew]

ik

[lyric dune]

Well what's the avg f2p clearing?

In ultimate ppc score

Cuz I can only do the 155 and the next one sometimes if I get lucky and there's no dark

[sharp dew]

i wouldnt know cuz im still lvl 80 something lol

[subtle zinc]

shes good and will get better with Wantashi in 2 weeks, so its hard to reccomend if its worth upgrading bc the Ice team will be very powerful with the two of them vs putting that invest/spend towards another team. If you are a spender and like her and want high scores, 3s Qu is worth it~

[wispy robin]

1,8m with average meta teams

[lyric dune]

Yeah I'm just trash lol

But I don't have meta teams for dark ig

Dark and lightning kinda bricked

[sharp dew]

whats ur dark team?

[lyric dune]

Only able to clear upto 155

[lyric dune]

SS Lamia 5 star,SSS+ vera 5 star and only like last week did I get S daren with her 5 star

Don't even have a single signature weapon lolz

[sharp dew]

i see wot u mean by bricked

[lyric dune]

Same for lightning team I don't have any sig and my feral is at S

[sharp dew]

why not teddy?

[lyric dune]

1 sec diff

[sharp dew]

brother i dont even have a lightning team LMAO

[sharp dew]

fair

[lyric dune]

You're not comparable to me check my profile

I should be way better than I am lol

[sharp dew]

fair

[lyric dune]

But I play the game extremely casually like just weeklies and the high paying event other than that I skip everything

[sharp dew]

playing casual in a world of sweats is nasty work

[round bear]

I need Lamia if I want to finish dark team

[wispy robin]

teddy buff is 8 sec cause 2 ticks

[lyric dune]

How much better than sss+ vera?

[wispy robin]

well teddy is better in everything bu default

[lyric dune]

I mean QTE

How much secs more

[stray siren]

Sanest Wata rot is usable on SS Wata?

[wispy robin]

3 sec longer

[lyric dune]

Not bad then actually

[wispy robin]

this is the ss rot

[stray siren]

Ohhh ok

I tried it on my SSS wata and I barely had orbs

[round bear]

Oof

[sharp dew]

chat is our run ruined if we dont religiously follow the rot? (in general for all frames)

[river nymph]

[stray siren]

Nah, Keep in mind that 90% of players don't know how to rotate

[round bear]

I just understand how the unit works, I don't worry about rots and whatever but maybe I should lmao

Ehh

[stray siren]

So, if you do something wrong, is not that bad

[night sigil]

More like time consuming

[round bear]

ello

[stray siren]

I retained legend in Void with the worst Watanabe rot possible

[night sigil]

Hey

[round bear]

hru

[night sigil]

Malding as ever

[round bear]

I see

[night sigil]

I mean you can still use the blaze orb + ba but it's not fast enough

I do the blaze orb > hold dodge

[round bear]

I swear I'll get Watanabe sometime in the future for fire team

There are just elements I like more

[subtle zinc]

I think Wata Shake at SSS is best learned with realizing that you just have to save 2 bulletsfor when he swaps back in the first time from Luna, and your goal is to use matrix first to blaze for a fast ult then use bullets and 3p dodge cancels to ult2. If you overlap them, you waste alot of time. Just takes practice ~ This is only for void team tho

[night sigil]

In selena pianissimo though

[stray siren]

I just gave up on Wata Shakes, but someone is asking me and now I need to remember how to play it

[round bear]

Yeah anni ofc

Ig

[stray siren]

Lanelao

[dapper skiff]

Lmfao

[round bear]

Hm

[dapper skiff]

2 males for better score

[river nymph]

[round bear]

Interesting

[subtle zinc]

both my future ex husbands in same team omg

[night sigil]

Luna obl male form

[river nymph]

who are you divorcing them for?

[night sigil]

Wait is that glacio affix?

[round bear]

Yeah

[subtle zinc]

well one is kind of a war criminal so... its going to fail. the other is too lazy sleep no work ethic .. .. we'll seee

[round bear]

[night sigil]

[round bear]

[dapper skiff]

Don't try this at home

[round bear]

Yeah ik, I knew that was a meme team

[visual topaz]

Lamia skemmed me

[round bear]

Wow...?

[visual topaz]

20s on her stage

[round bear]

Oki

[night sigil]

I got like 11 minutes in there

[visual topaz]

3/2/7/7/9/11/10/20

[dapper skiff]

you can try it at work tho

[round bear]

don't

[raw swift]

wtf 2 males!? bricked

[subtle zinc]

Lamia was not very happy to see us in clash this reset lol. She insta killed glory and ayla on me and the camera angle was so buggy during qu ult

[round bear]

I didn't get Glory from the selector cause like I knew Lucid Dreamer was coming so I am coping with a S(SS?) Hypnos

[subtle zinc]

glory is the worst you are doing the correct thing lol

[round bear]

I instead got Garnet and what do you know, she'll get replaced when Nanami Startrail comes and she'll be the new lightning dps lol

most of the crap I did was before joining this server

[round bear]

I got a bad idea

[dapper skiff]

Ohmagawd

Money money money

[visual topaz]

near 36k F2P reward

[meager iris]

daim

[visual topaz]

22k trade vouchers excluding 6k BP and warzone income

[round bear]

Interesting

[meager iris]

no way

[dapper skiff]

How many weapon USB for Norman clearer

[meager iris]

22k vouchers fr?

without bp or wz?

[visual topaz]

here is the data

my formula sums the amount column if they verify the string of text next to them having Trade voucher

then i do the same for basic ticket and usb shards

[meager iris]

but this include 6k from bp

[visual topaz]

wait i'm dub

i included

i can't read sheet

nvm then

[meager iris]

[visual topaz]

previous plan used to not include

i changed format

since we get more event ticket nowadays

compared to roland patch

[meager iris]

[visual topaz]

so excluding BP it's -6k from F2P BP

but it does indeed exclude WZ income

[slender aurora]

What set does balter use post hanying

[dapper skiff]

How much for this patch weapon reso shards

[visual topaz]

still 16k+

[dapper skiff]

Yes

[visual topaz]

275

[dapper skiff]

What the f

[meager iris]

very nice

[round bear]

[dapper skiff]

Almost 2 usb

[round bear]

Hmm

[visual topaz]

norman 75 x 3 + 50 GE

hence 275

[sand laurel]

still zero clue about what bunch of nonsense you talking about…

[meager iris]

wz alone give 15k per patch assuming legend hero every week

so one promote then demote

[visual topaz]

promote legend and demote legend same income

time to update patch sheet

[vale raft]

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[deft apex]

[modern nacelle]

Very unorthodox question, but has anyone ever tried cotte on ploom? And if so does it do anything on her?

[visual topaz]

nothing

[dapper skiff]

[round bear]

[meager iris]

no?

[visual topaz]

her ult stacks isn't tied to her energy

[dapper skiff]

One of us!

[modern nacelle]

I waa wondering it for a while since her ult works entirely differently from most charas. I didnt know what to do for her harmony so I have hanna x 4 and darwin x 4 on her lol.

[dapper skiff]

Lmaoooo

[meager iris]

retaining income is just

[dapper skiff]

4 Hanna 4 Chen is the harmo set

[round bear]

[modern nacelle]

Ahh chen

Makes sense

[dapper skiff]

There's 4 Hanna 4 Frederick if you're a cracked ploom user

[visual topaz]

900 + 100x3 from hero mission
750 + 150x3 from legend mission

they compensate

[modern nacelle]

Wouldnt you want dodge weapon reso for fedrick in theory?

[meager iris]

oh right make sense then

[visual topaz]

only brick is hero retain

[meager iris]

legend retain alone gives 19800 per patch daim

that's cool

[visual topaz]

ye

actually more than F2P income

[dapper skiff]

Matrix

[visual topaz]

from this patch

if u exclude BP

[meager iris]

lmao

[vale raft]

Frederick ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

Each dodge increases Movement Speed by 15% and Extra DMG Bonus by 5% for 5s. Can be stacked up to 3 times. Duration resets every time it is triggered.

4pc Set Bonus

When the character triggers Matrix, all enemies' speed decreases by 20% and their Extra DMG Reduction decreases by 15% for 4s. 8s cooldown.

ATK

136

CRIT

64

DEF

223

HP

1446

[meager iris]

true

[round bear]

alrighty

[modern nacelle]

Oh right because hanna = double matrix cooldowns

[dapper skiff]

4pc Hanna already trigger matrix by demand with 3p

Which should activate Fred 4pc effect

[visual topaz]

@deft apex are there new bosses in Celica's Class

[modern nacelle]

Oh thats sick

[dapper skiff]

So u have the effects active once you start rotation by default

[modern nacelle]

Im definitely re-hypertuning someday thanks for all the info, it was very helpful.

[visual topaz]

or last patch was latest batch

[meager iris]

so this patch we got 13870 excluding dfm bp wz

this is cool

[dapper skiff]

Also like I said

[meager iris]

in my vouchers sheet I just assumed 3k vouchers for events per regular patch

since these change a lot

[dapper skiff]

If you're a cracked ploom handles, you will use dodge attack instinctively before u realizing

[modern nacelle]

Ill try to work up to that mechanically.

[simple dew]

before vs after

[modern nacelle]

[mint jay]

before was better

[modern nacelle]

Lol

"#1 selena hater is typing"

[mint jay]

Tomato soup selena - best selena

[modern nacelle]

It was even funnier before the message.

[dull gust]

what if you dont have wata pyroth works ?

[wispy robin]

ultra cope suffering with solo

[slender aurora]

Can someone explain rq why you run patton harmo over cottie harmo for hanying..someone is convinced you use cottie on hanying and idk how to explain why hes wrong

[dull gust]

is there no replacement unit like low powered alternative ?

[wispy robin]

you won't swap with anything but wata

[dull gust]

thas crazy

[simple dew]

if she doesnt have stamina problems then dont use cottie

[wispy robin]

they did everything they could to make wata skippers regret

[simple dew]

im feeling personally attacked

[dapper skiff]

She doesn't have energy issues

[tacit sentinel]

for void ss3 wanshi better than ss0 wata right?

[dull gust]

[dapper skiff]

And Patton 4 is greater than 4 cottie effect

[visual topaz]

shred wise yes

[dapper skiff]

And what the fck

[vale raft]

Current Roadmap (as of Feb 15th 2025)

[dapper skiff]

This Dejavu asf

The question
The answer

[tacit sentinel]

dmg wise not?

[glass bay]

what if pyroath empy dual dps

[wispy robin]

you use cottie for solo ppc and onslaught

[simple dew]

will i have enough to ss3 pyroath

[visual topaz]

need SSS0 above ranks to start matching Wata

he lacks EDB source ircc

[tacit sentinel]

damn i really need wata sig

[glass bay]

wait so even at ss3 still wata better?

[visual topaz]

they asked SS0 vs SS3

[wispy robin]

wanshi is x10000000 simpler to play than shakes wata so for majority of the people using wanshi will be dmg boost

[visual topaz]

that too

[deft apex]

No

[meager iris]

on average, how long does cn patch stay?

[visual topaz]

6 weeks + 1 week break