#📨・meta-help
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This one is a lot more ummm complicated
i tried
i got 2.1m
no it isn’t
my capri is r1 dude
But the former 2 I get it
alisa dmg outright sucks
Remember how phys had to play before her?
She carried phys to a new level even with her own weakness
Yeah that didn’t matter though
phys still went into the dirt after 3 S ranks
It didn’t save phys
only slowed the fall
Because said S ranks are busted and physical stayed stagnant so yeah lol natural sequence of events here
Yeah because Alisa didn’t bring enough to the table
coughnanamechcough
Again literally its the same trend over and over
How good Alisa's impact is DIRECTLY scales to how good the units she's buffing are lol
Are co op rewards better with higher dif and harder boss?
Balter was the first gen 2 attacker and Rosetta is gen 1
But that’s the point
rosetta and balter suck
and alisa didn’t even deal that good dmg compared to balter
@dapper skiff did u try the wz?
If she was at least comparable to balt and didn’t get restricted by 20 fk ing things in her kit phys wouldn’t have dumpstered right after Wata
my bracket has like 5 omegawhel again the mald is insane
Yeah that's objectively true but my point is Alisa did make physical able to stay afloat but how good she actually makes the team completely relies on the older units being replaced which they did
And now Alisa's only real problem is being unable to do anything in rotation with the other 2 but that's a standard issue now
phys barely stayed afloat though
it wasn’t even a patch later that phys even with such an oh so godly rework still got shafted
the trend stays the same
I wouldn't even compare her to balter I think the real funny thing is that she's barely any stronger than rosetta 💀💀💀
if you don’t make the next S rank of the same element outdamage the previous the powerlevel of the team stagnates through the next half a year and will see a sharp drop after the initial “climb”
THAT is the real embarrassing part lmao
Doesn’t matter how “revolutionary” alisa crit buff is
phys still sucked ass
And Qu is literally the next victim in line because Wanshi was too soon after her and got balanced around her
Imo all she needed to do was cleanly outdps rose by a good amount, not even outdps balter
Which she does neither 😭
if the ice amp isn’t going to be main dps then ice isn’t climbing back up
Lilith got main dps spot and dark still failed to pull itself up
if ice amp isn’t outdamaging qu ice is dead
Her rotation feels like a big yawnfest at later waves she can't even do any noteworthy dmg lmao
Which IS pretty sad
idt you’re paying attention to the arms race enough here
im sorry to interupt in this conversation, but what does it mean when an element is 'dead'?
means that other elements can do their job for them in their own habitats for shared content like ppc
not scoring well anymore relative to other elements
so lilith for ice?
See people running qu in lightning ppc and getting away with it cuz siren/tifa have less hp than emperor
Hmm who knows maybe they'll all have to rotate
ehh so off elemnt is better?
34 sec on hell with just r1 ss qu btw
Try what
wtf do you mean who knows its literally the exact same precedent every damn S rank
no not exactly
you need to understand the active bosses relative to the current patch to gauge
Tbh it's hard to use lilith as a standard for anything because she's free AND she's clearly designed to keep dark from being unplayable so she's capable of multiple rots
ah yeah i am still noob to know this stuff will have to get around learning it later on
not quite
fire zone
I meant "who knows" what kuro intends to do with the team in terms of rotation balancing
Haven't login since this noon
No lmao she was designed to be new dark dps benchmark but she’s a garbage freebie since they had to keep lamia skin profits so they had to nerf her over and over
oh... but isnt the bosses on pcc still the same for the element? wont that mean they will score the same compared to other elements with better teams? since more tankier bosses also come out?
How much stronger was she in v1?
hear me out teddy lilith selena capriccio will it work or nah
I remember she got nerfed but idk how much exactly
I heard decent
where's your tank
yeah but consider bosses like siren still exist next to bosses like emperor
2~ million vs 19 million
at that point its a clear sign the element has stagnated
honetly i dont have one besides no 21
ahh i see
because everyone and their mother can clear it
I was keeping up but I obviously didn't actually play her or know her kit so the changelogs all read like hieroglyphics to me 😭
then that's what you use
Siren is still in cn??
No
no 21 needs to to be sss+ to be useful?
Siren benched when cradle arrived
Tbh kinda sad it would've been a nice slacc boss for free score
But somehow dshark is still there 💀
It would have been funny if test was still here
Imagine cw getting outdone by uniframe
Byyye 💀
Cw aged like milk in meta I'm crying
They milked her so much this is the result
3s for the shred only
I imagine they will do the same for selena prob
Insane downtime for slam to do less than some characters' weak ult variants
and even then you still use 21 even if you have nothing better
Yeah 😭
If she even sells well in cn
She won eden festival like, twice they know she's too popular to give up
Oh trust me they'll make 5 sfx coatings for her next patch
Twice for a unit who barely appeared
Wonder if ss0 hanying can just 620k fushen or something
Although people have been saying the gap between her and balter isn't that crazy
All I care about is that I'll wipe the floor with emperor when I get wanshi
Looks possible with some weap resos
Prob 212?
His smug ass thought he was something just because I'm hard locked to the worst tank in the game
Well I meant my r1 invest but I'm guessing r2 on a couple of units can definitely make it happen
Imma delay my 580k achievements starting next patch
Not me beefing with a ppc boss 😭
By not 580k it
You just gonna brick your score and not get onslaught? 😭
You already know why
Imma wait a little
Why would you need more than 500 skulls for her though 😭
I mean if you get onslaught consistently that's a lot more excess skulls you can hoard for her no?
Especially with sync
I have 700 skulls already
I can afford to miss out on some achievements plus onslaught
Hmm fair
I'm just glad shorthalt isn't BEFORE lucia
Because if they added the 2mil+ hp units before the new dps I'd be mad
Ballard is clearly meant to be a nightmare for wata and seems skych is even worse for phys
aren't we going to have one week of shorthalt without lucia
thx
ok i’m pretty new but have noticed that the “meta” is pretty important and many characters get replaced with someone much better for that role. does anyone have or know of a good “tier list” or something of characters that are the best for their comp? if that makes sense ❤️
How does that even work
yes i have a sheet for exactly that in the pins or in the bot command
I'm pretty sure the synch patches make the non free S rank banner take precedence?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SusxJ3tYwsBqY3dPwJ9BG2tDW0ox5GqVJgGZHYnAqa8/edit?usp=sharing
So I guess units to expect based on element now:
Ice: Amp
Dark: Tank
Fire: Amp
Phys: Amp
Light: Attacker (rip CW lmao)
and people will still cope with CW
tysm!!! 🙏🫶
Sounds about right
What if . . . the new lightning attacker is another alpha frame 
"Umbra enabler when"
As they're sinking to the depths of the sea
Watch the enabler outdps her in umbra
remains to be seen
i don't think we'll see another alpha for quite a while
yeah
It's not impossible
her lore is already pretty wrapped up
what does it do
and people will still find ways to keep her
Just the slam becoming the Doolingoo CW vs Plume airborne slash animation and then her ult will deal umbra damage
Giving her the same multipliers as her base kit was a very bright idea
SS0 can't
Heh
Kekwkekekwkekekek
This is why I suggest it for
7 seconds of timestopless animation uncancellable damage
WOMP WOMP
womp womp
Womp womp
womp womp
Umbra dead on arrival lmaooo
like burn
Like ignition and ts
I don't think burn is "arriving" anywhere anytime soon LMAO
who knows
it may be the next s rank
Tbf
Burn doesn't even have stacking damage like other, except Disruption, affixes

uhm
Lamia ignition leap
"Sink into the bottom of the volcano"
It's big Dot
just got wata cub in 7 pulls lmAO
DoT nuke
Big lava sea instead of water
funny considering underwater hot geysers exist
It should be by order, though S rank take priority over A ranks
Yeah but lamia's animations are supposed to convey a cold dark feeling so it'll be funny asf
Nice :)
not sure if you watched pacific rim before
which memory should i use for echo and ld? and what are their resonance
If they make her ignition dps they'd BETTER add steam and boiling bubble animations to her ignition kit or it'll end up looking like a meme
Anyone has a derive matrix guide on endings
and I accidentally also got lamia cub when doing pulls on cub banner with my spare tickets from bp too ;-;
"Sink! TILL THE CORE OF THE EARTH AND BURN TO ASHES YOU FCKING DIPSHI*"
I don't remember tbh
Sounds like something she'd say

Pins
Harmonization or no?
why do we build plume's top resonance slot with red orbs? wouldn't 15+ atk be better?
@buoyant hornet got emperor score improvement
umm can i ask what is this lower + + + + + + is?
Uh
Replace Tifa with Cottie
Also why do you have CW instead of Epitaph
whats that
Those ++++++ are resonance slots
aaaa ok
Her red orbs do insane dmg just use one and watch the enemy's hp bar
You newbie ?
yes
i want qu 
bricked 
Who did you pick from this banner
Oh sweet
i dont have that
You do if you haven't used it YET
did you use it?

It's given to everyone
oooo
Nice fushen will be screaming lmao
Who did you use it on
i dont know
Pls epitaph
bruh
we can take a good guess



😭😭😭

wdym by harmonization
absolutely bricked
Which one 5* can i recycle
It's not too late to be unbricked
sig weapon + harmony upgrade
new account atp
Go in-game
Go to the gacha menu
Go to there the screenshot says
Go to instruction and check the pity
Do you have or plan on getting their 6* weapons?
oh nope
Then you don't need to know
I assume wata cub skill 1 is better?

Damage, Crowd Control
After pinging a total of 6 basic Signal Orbs, the CUB button will become available. After casting, Shadow Wing will release sound waves to deal damageand pull in nearby enemies, dealing 1650% DMG.
After pinging a total of 6 basic Signal Orbs, the CUB button will become available. After casting, Shadow Wing will start to circle, granting the equipped character Shield equal to 200% of its ATK. At the end of the flight, Shadow Wing will spread its wings and deal 750% DMG twice to the area around the target.
???
What skill ? Active or Passive
Will my 5k bc work on the weapon and cub once wanshi comes 
Then it's 4signa 2 philip or 2dv for alisa
4signature men 2eins for wanshi
Uh depends
@dapper skiff :Lmaocry:
i mean for passives I obviously choose the fire dmg and blaze orb one right
Help
thanks
they lack critical information
Harmony is for 6★ weapons only
Go for 4 Signa 2 Philip on Alisa
Bridget mobile
How can u craft cubs? And how many mats do u need? I'm crafting the a cubs BTW.
😭
I would play 6 fingers if I could
You can't craft them unless you have them
thats for mobile rhythm games
They think we telekinetically do our inputs
Lingya cub should be the only cub that you need to sss
@neon geyser hello
Should i get ayla or alisa first?
I crafted lingya though
I have their shards.
50/60
just choose 1 and worry about the other later
seems like from this that the active skill 1 is mob grouping
shield kinda useless I'm assuming for skill 2?
Ok ok. Thanks for the help. But where do I craft them? ;-;
I think 2dv is probably better assuming there's no other dv holder (2dv buff has no cd)
do you have the +
no

as in you only have 1 slot to select an a rank?
I forgot the name of the shop but the currency should look like a blue crystal
doesnt really matters tbh, u can buy the other later
If you're really low on dorm commisions currency you might wanna save for wanshi first
yes
oof you wasted a good opportunity
Wait
Are you newbie or returnee ?
They wouldn't survive if asked to play wata wz while held at gunpoint
i suppose its ore shop?
ohh im returnee than : D
Gotcha
Yeah 😭
Send your friend ID
Who are all the S ranks you have lol
16711851
It's ore shop and they can take a while to get
Server ?
how to check that
You should know it
It's in your login screen
not much
Not buy. Craft. I have the cub u suggested me all f it's 30 shards I just need to now where to combine all of the shards
ohh wait
Do trial and error:D
Tbh you can realistically get enough currency for a full character within 7-10 days especially if you log in twice to use up all the missions you can get daily
Lol who are they
@livid lark
If it crimson abyss RIP
I'm
asia pacific
Yea already saw it
Lmao
Wonder if I guessed it right 
It's over i see ca
You did
And me too
you might have some trouble doing endgame stuff later
It's so joever
why that is

Go to the cub (main menu) and you can craft the cub in there
There's 0 meta units apart from Empy, Oblivion, Alisa
I'll open the game hold on
This is a very clear miscommunication thing
Where did you get luna laurel AND rosetta
There's only 1 selector where you should have picked Luna
You starting a new account?
no im returnee
Really? That fast? This account is 2 days old so im not sure if i get them that fast
idk what i pick
Where did you get Luna Laurel and Rosetta
Cause you should only have one of them at the very least
luna bc rosetta idk?
Tbh it's not beyond saving, they can get wata and qu from the upcoming selectors it just means they don't get a free ss3 lol
Laurel I meant
Not much benefits of being one, might as well start new
The white outfit luna not the red one
I really don't think so
oh idk about that too
He's too late to restart imo
like a crate? or sum as i remember
Yeah...
yeah a free selector
Want him to play solo pyroath?
There was a springsong blossoms selector did you get empy through that?
Go to the combine section in cubs (bottom-left)
If it wasn't the literal last week of the first x3 patch it would've been fine but rn no
Can anyone help me here? ;-;
Found it. Thank you.
Oh he probably got Luna from the cw selector
Better than starting with 0 bc and losing all the free currency influx from this patch
i... dont really remember sorry 
because he made bad decisions
go to ajust team and make sure they all have a leader skill selected
or there might be a new team on the far right
Can someone judge my account 11891600
Yeah, I guess you're right. But missing on a one unit who's really important (wata) feels bad too
I didn't noticed the fourth team lol.
hmmmm i pick epitaph from that banner, im sure its a great choice
Im on SEA
Ok your s ranks I'm gonna assume where you got them from
Depends tbh but my point is you can get currency pretty fast thanks to the x3 multiplier this patch (also I did this on the new baby acc that I was temporarily using)
We all had to cope without something but they'll be able to get wata later anyway
You have 4 selector characters when you could have only gotten 3
I mean @carmine reef has had to play cubless sigless balter all this time 
HUH
And I had to do cray copium myself
oh
LMFAOOO
dude
And the struggle of a solo s0 5* luna laurel in wz
there was somebody in here earlier today saying balter needs sig or bricked
i was refuting it and they said "stop the cap" and i'm like brother
just pull oblivion
you have NO idea how deeply i am NOT capping
Tbh I think the early gen 2 attackers sig importance were over hyped
Wata is probably the best char to pick
Everytime i do void, fire wz
I will get stepped on by players with wata
And no amount of grind can save me from that
Stuck in leader
Atleast before harmo
@neon geyser dw your acc isn't doomed or anything but you definitely picked a bad choice from one of your selectors, it'll force you to wait a while longer to get a certain important meta character but yeah just make sure to ask about this stuff later on
Well he needs all the help he can get
What 5* weapons can i scrap?
are the omniframes i own always available of shards in PPC shop
yes all omniframes are in ppc shop
All of them except for luna and wata
aaaa okaay tysm 🥹 🥹
Some of us were playing the game long before oblivion 
all i need tbh
for many months until lamia came out, my dark team was 112 555 swap
You're right I should have time traveled how couldn't i have thought of that 
The 3 is for competitive, the 4th one is to scratch the screen of it inches
Yeah that was my team too
I'm so glad he's the only S rank I missed back when I quit because if it was someone more important I'd be seething
Which is worst
yeah same
Time travel as a newbie in oblivion patch
Liv
😭tf
missing hyper is such a good meme for my account, way funnier than just having a weak hyper
Fate actually saved me
Fate gambler in this economy????
Like literally ANYONE else would've badly bricked my wz long term unless I got them from a selector or something
It was the alisa anniversary one iirc
The content from earlier from a fellow hyperless soul 
i pulled balter on anni during alisa patch
i put so much blood, sweat, and tears into that woman
I had a few free anniversary pulls and thought since I wouldn't get enough pulls for pity anyway I'd use it on fate
Dust 

By being irrelevant
Vera isnt your favourite?
?
Hmmm Jetavie dark attacker. Did lamia just get replaced? 💀
:D
He literally got offrated like 7 times total while trying to get her sig and cub
i'm talking about how much bc i've put into balter and how literally none of it paid off
Vera would make you bleed sweat and cry instead
How did lamia get replaced before scire
on top of needing to save up for excess bc to pull her in the first place
since it was a backpull
Jetavie a rank trust
We pray.
She has to be
Thank god my bricked fish will be replaceable
no one is even sure yet
it's like 90% certain jetavie is A rank
but hopefully she's a rank
Tbh I'm so glad getting swap teams can make some characters less bricked by being sigless (qu, balter)
Literally base S no sig and cub
That 10%
I'd rather scire get kicked to the fcking curb first before lamia
Ay bruh….me too 🤣
Absolutely
scire been sticking around for far too long
and the investment needed to use her is disgusting
empy:
Please scire needs to go
Empy actually does her job
Lilith outdamages her anyways
it's liv, she gets an exception
nyo I wanna use my sss scire for as long as possible 
Scire only gaslit us into thinking she was good
you don't want this gremlin hiding pipebombs in your mailbox
The first ss3 culprit
Do co op or Gacha.
weren't there a few test subjects that pulled copy for ss3 empy only to find out it doesn't exist
Whats that? Ss3 isnt good?
@carmine reef mind you leap empy at ss0 5* can rotate with wata somehow
Meanwhile sub ss3 sig scire is CLOWN
CIRCUS
Still better than solo lmao
yeah but at least scire is a functional qte bot at s 
Mayhaps 
solo is better if sss0 oath 
The bar is in hell
empy literally unusable at s
We're talking about wata lol
not even usable as qte bot
And so are many characters 😭
Lamia base S
Listen that's true but she's the first amplifier in existence
you really do not understand how fr i am being when i say LITERALLY UNUSABLE
Not comparable
i'm not saying "this sucks"
The time gap between her and other amplifiers is insane considering she still remains relevant lol
i'm saying "SHE LITERALLY CANNOT FULFILL HER ROLE AS A SUPPORT"
Leap helps some what
not comparable
NO IT DOESN'T
Leap doesn't help for qte bot iirc
SHE LITERALLY DOESN'T HAVE A BUFF AT S
Better than sophia balls probably
she's actually not tho!!!

LET ME MEME
ah to be this clueless
She doesn't spit balls so that's something
guys is there any chart predicting next weeks ppc?
Sophia is actually so tragic why is she the only one with that mechanic lmao
Bar was below hell and S empy managed to dig deeper

atleast she still has time stop so that helps I guess
in ppc maybe

Lmao i remember somehow getting lower scores with empyrea than with capi in wz

i actually think it was fun and cool within the context of gen1 and other healers at the time
tbf you do get the amp buff 
It's a really easy week but I don't remember specifics
ok ty
My empy was so weak swapping to her on Lee's downtime was less dps than basic attacking with him
no one's gonna be swapping with s empy
it's like uh siren hamlet and moon eater i think
For a while I had a 221 115 110 invest on fire tho
@rain anchor
Except me tho ☠️☠️
True it was a neat idea to allow for extended/delayed healing but the problem is that the balls disappear anyway if you don't use them 😭
tysm tysm
dark against hamlet again? 
Cake eater
Damn no wata for luna again
delayed healing in a fast paced game
pickup system where characters move at mach -fuck
and what are they weak to?
light
no weakness
fire
how about i eat your cake 
And mind you you'd need to spend dodge gauge to effectively get where the balls are thrown which....


It's a date 
Balls are retrieve automatically in a certain rank ☠️
Is the chat freaky
Lmao fr?
It's about balls
Wtf
Do we have a command for sss+?
Wtf is this
Spoiler, s*phia doesn't ever get auto ball catch
Literally what's the point what were they thinking
That's not the ball
Wth is an energy ball
the one that heals you when you pick it up
This was good for a while until she became a qte bot
WOAH
or heals the ppc boss if they pick it up first 
Not getting the whole chat pushed out after looking up rank passives

Good times
Wait what
Useless passives at that
Not the /s 💀
Is this the daily miku misinfo or?
50+ reboots
Field Supplies - Core Passive
Trigger: Last hit of Basic Attack / Any 3-Ping / Cast Signature Move / Cast QTE + Pick up Energy Ball
Sophia: Silverfang drops an Energy Ball after any of the following: the last hit of Basic Attack, dealing damage with a 3-Ping skill, casting Signature Move, or casting QTE. Picking up an Energy Ball heals all the allies within range and grants Fire Tempered, increasing Fire DMG. Whenever an Energy Ball is picked up, Sophia: Silverfang gains Energy and Heat. Her ATK increases based on the current Heat.
- Picking up an Energy Ball heals all within range for HP equal to 20.0% of Sophia: Silverfang's ATK.
- Fire Tempered increases the Fire DMG of the character who picked up the Energy Ball by 10.0% for 5s.
- Whenever an Energy Ball is picked up, Sophia: Silverfang gains 4 Energy and 75 Heat.
- Sophia: Silverfang's ATK increases by 5% / 10% / 15% when her Heat is over 0 / 100 / 200.
???
I know that she retrieves balls
I don't think she does
it's kuro
Honestly she has some really cool attempts at encouraging swap gameplay
it's the same as that one time in clash reflect where the stage effect is applied to your ally instead of the boss
I think it still bugged
I hear Alisa's va
and the week after next week should be the bosses that havent run for these two weeks right? trying to calculate my ppc achievements skulls LMAO i need them for hanying ToT
Wait nvm
Lmao it was still bugged last patch when I tested

Not sure tbh
alright ty
That’s what happens when you listen to miku
should i lvl up their skills on the bottom?
I just know that she picks balls
not if you don't have the resources for it
Is kuji no sada used lot?
Ok but who throws the balls
For sword units
0 use
plume
no
ok nice i can get 500 skulls before the physical wazone in hanyings patch which is on 27/2
hanying 2/20 
Hanying's patch is 2/20 right
2/27 is wanshi patch
Fish
yea
So close
kk
but the next physical warzone after hanying release is 27/2
so i can get ready to ss her cuz i aint playin her at s
What about warzone
should've upgraded the bottom skills first 
Can i get 400 plus ppc skulls within a week
Pick the correct useful skill first before leveling it up
As for which skill is used, I'll let the veteran answers (except 初音ミク
)
active skills are just merely more cub damage
while passive skills actually help the unit in question, yknow the one you're equipping onto and the one actually doing the dps, deal more damage
idk which is best that’s why i did the top ones first bc i had tons of the mat
I didint know there were cub carrier buffs on A rank cubs so I missed out on 10% extra damage on my dps's 
only 10%
not that helpful anyway
literally unplayable
jk

do i lvl up all the passive skills?
I can't get pas 1.7 with my good fire
big skill issues
"idk which is best" so you didn't bother asking first?
The harmo mats feel nice to get trippled
no
this was already a big waste of mats doing active skills
When do the clearance thing reset?
crap
weekly
One week left to resource hoard
uh if u havent cleared them before and still have the ppc achievement skulls to claim plus if u can get the max rewards then maybe
Did done did it 
Bro is that determined to get that 5* weapon 
Still not gonna get the right resod
490 davinci 
492*
You should level the bottom passive as well as the elemental damage passive
you're right, i'm infinitas-ing everyone instead
Watafak gib

kk tysm
I'm broke since Luna ult reso cost me everything
just whel more no biggie
Having r3 can be considered whale?
Still feasible for f2p but not recommended
no
that's leviathan you fcken Poseidon
Is there actually a dude who has R3 and SSS+ everything lmao
probably some cn dude
Was doing co op and the guy had r3 luna and r3 cw
PGR life
There are some gloobas too
Should i use empyrea and epitaph support and defender sets ?
squished
wide again
neither of those things were true back then
Btw wanshi patch makes every stage have its own weather right?
forgot gen 1s were boring as -fuck 
remember that sophia was technically one of only 2 units that could 4guin with one cast
in the entire game
Balls pickup
which cub should i get? luna qu epitaph or wait for hanying?
Lux the other one?
ye
luna
Either epitaph or hanying probably
because
a) it's 100% rateup rn
b) there is no nihil cub alternative, the others have A rank alternatives
Hmm true
I didn't consider the 100%
Help 
what the hell is a defender set
Probably means support
he said support and then defender
idk what that's supposed to mean but anyway wata runs 4 alphonse 4 shakespeare in luna team
I meant sub dps/harmony tank
what do i select for them
What should i do
wut
i answered you already bro
what infinitas do i go for qu?
how is liv going to act as a tank
Blue on Lamia, Luna doesn’t matter (so keep it on red so it matches ig
)
also doesn't matter but we do red cause it's a gapclose
oh wait
tysm
oh okay thanks
Watanabe 4pc Alphonse 4pc shakespeare and Liv uses 4pc Davinci 2pc Einsteina if you have harmo get 2pc Guinevere too
why do people dodge cancel 3p btw? does damage still register even though animation doesnt finish? like the full damage?
usually because the 3p are not the main damage
i swear my humor is beyond broken
you'd rather get to your 99% dmg faster, than stalling out longer for the 1%
then watanabe you dodge the 3p too?
What you mean watanabe only have 6 slots
even though for reso you still aim for red orbs?
on wata you cancel the 3p with dodge and then you also cancel the basic with 3p
the boba tea collab is also for global? 
Not 8
I thought you said he had harmony
red orb reso also boosts the blaze orbs, which you do NOT cancel bc those are his main dmg
the hold dodge basic? which basic is this?
ahhh okay i see
Luna: "the illusion of free choice"
no the regular basics to use bullets
What s that i m too old
6* weapon
If you dont have then use the 4alphonse 2 cottie build
Its literally written in the bot info you've been using 
Ty
and then the 3p is canceled with ult1 if you're in basic form
here comes the question of the day
first 3p is swap in right?
ye
I will curse everyone that says jetavie is an A rank. If she turns out to be an S rank
ult2 you're usually doing blaze orbs before it
i have cub for each element so i give them to dps, lingya to amp but what do i give to 3rd char?
just another ele cub
oh wait so you 3p before doing ult1?
on shakes
wtf actual helps in my gph
don't need to on cottie
I hope she powercreeps lamia
Bricked fish no more
wait is this on first swap in at beginning or subsequent swap-ins?
Should I get Balt to sss (from ss6) with voucher 
Hey i need some advice on units
every ult1, on shakes
usually I just swap > dodge cancel > basic > ult
btw i have luna's cub ss all max. is it better than a rank cub for other dpss?
so hm
100 atk and shi
also you do 3p in basic form on cottie too, but only after the first ult2
to use up the matrix proc
matrix is usually used in basic form regardless of cottie or shakes
okie tysm zexous
just that with cottie it's ult2>ping matrix>ult1, and on shakes it's ult2>basic>ping matrix>ult1
oh yeah you save a shell for shakes before doing ult2 right
ye
wdym ping matrix? do u have to dodge an attack first then?
wata triggers matrix on his own when you use his parry (which he also triggers on his own)
with hold dodge
hold dodge only works after ult1 no?
she only has one 5* wep
yes
like you hold dodge and then basic once to trigger matrix
Does shakes go into bottom or alphonse
if you are playing at proper speed you will still have the matrix in patrol form
ohh it carries over. yeah that makes sense
if you are slow the matrix will expire but
just don't be slow 
decent,but as always better to use the on element cubs instead when available
doesn't really matter but put shakes on top because alphonse stays on always
actually all elemental cubs are s ranks
unless you set up alphonse on top already
My cottie is at the bottom so yeah
nowadays with build switching, don't worry about the atk minmax
Lingya is lightning noctua is dark seeshell ice and yuan ye fire
i think i will do: lingya+elemental cub+ss luna cub on tank?
just do whatever is consistent so that you can build switch easily
there's an A ranks
and i would assume you would at least have 1 element cub each
yeah i made them to s ranks
at what time do we save a shell before doing ult2?
Thankss
sure that works
is it after 2 3p > parry matrix > another 3p?
no
got a question regarding chessboard realm. I wanna make a board game based on it because it has been by far my most favorite mini-game in PGR! and I wanna keep playing it and build playable characters for it with their own attack patterns.
but one major thing that boggled me was that sometimes more enemy chess pieces more than other times. why is that? why do some stay stationary while others are on the move in waves?
if you do another 3p the matrix will be used up on it
you do all your 3p and then parry for the last blaze orb and then go straight into 420 blaze it
so 3 3p then matrix parry?
How to get memory xp
ah
3x3p only if you're doing 4 blaze
you can only hold 3 blaze orb max
sss can do some weird shenanigans but actually i'm not even gonna go into it
yeah since the stacks go up to 6
they also get different amount of blaze orbs though so it's
a whole different thing
anyway
if you're doing 4 blaze you do 3x3p and then you HAVE to hold dodge into blaze
it won't work if you do hold dodge into basic
trying to figure out the rot here since I've been doing it wrong
so hm
anything to iron out in this rot?
swap in > dodge cancel > basic > 3p cancel > ult1 > 2 3p > parry > 3 blaze > ult2 > matrix ping > rinse and repeat?
this isn't including the saved shell before ult2 tho so I need to figure out what's wrong here
i mean
the minigame itself is based of am actual game (Shotgun king)
dk how to answer you 2nd question,could ask reddit got that because clearly that's wayyy to outta meta for us 
you have to trigger the parry WITH the blaze orb so that it makes room for the other blaze orb you get from parry
if you're just doing 3 blaze then you can do 2x3p and hold dodge basic
Event shop
either way, do your 3p before the parry so you can use matrix in basic form
oh wait no I've been looking at it wrong this entire time 
my mind a jumbled mess rn
Red is nice for gapclosing
this is correct for first rot
okay so
swap in > dodge cancel > basic > 3p cancel(should have one shell) > ult1 > 1 3p > basic > parry > 3 blaze > ult2 > matrix ping > rinse and repeat?
The closed one?
this seems right
assuming that "2 3p" part is including the basics and stuff
since the basic should give a blaze already
that's correct for 3 blaze
Thank you!
although you should still be dodge cancelling the 3p in ult form too
okay yeah at least I still have some braincells
but i'll assume you just forgot to write it
I'm skill issued and can't dodge cancel well lul
also
minor nitpick
it's easier to start the ult form rot with basic
like you do basic>3p cancel>dodge cancel>hold dodge
ah
it might feel more awkward on the inputs but it's slightly faster since
if you do it your order you have to wait for the basic animation to finish before you can hold dodge
I see
I'm a f2p should I rlly get wanshi sig? (I'm a consistent leader wz player so I don't think I would go in hero wz for those affix stuff)
do you have qu sig
Yep
then you can probably get away with 5* wanshi
@zenith kernel i killed w15 but w16 hadn't spawned yet 
His 6 star didn't provide much so ig I can
But for nanami and ishmael patch I gotta need 50k bc 💀
i mean it's a loooot of dmg and wanshi holding 4cjy is better than qu holding it
but yeah f2p always has to make sacrifices so
Lee swap?
yea
30k for both ishmael and nanami 15k for their weapons and 5k for nanami cub
50k bc I'm cooked
also they're so tough lol, as expected of legend
Norman method lol
Rec a run on my acc rq, maybe I'm doing the Lee swap setup wrong because when I was testing it it didn't work
that's fine but that's not bc 
so including the dodges, the ideal rot would then be this?
swap in > dodge cancel > basic > 3p cancel(should have one shell) > ult1 > basic > 3p cancel > dodge cancel > parry > 3 blaze > ult2 > matrix ping > rinse and repeat?
aight i'll do it 
I'm trying to get qu sig rn
pretty sure this is right
I mean qu cub(**
ye again that's correct for first rot
and then dodge cancel the matrix ping of course to start the new cycle
but 3 blaze doesn't get you ult2 on second rot
oh yeah
Also, wave 15 is weird cause I got 267 on my 3rd run, but when I hit it with more blaze orbs on my 5th and 6th runs it didn't get a better score
not cottie :p
you don't have to dodge cancel the matrix ping
after ult2 you basic, then you cancel that with 3p, then you cancel the 3p with ult1
Was gonna ask 
Kinda baited by the 20 roll 100% pity
Guess weapon first if I have extra bc
oh right to use up the shotshell
ult1 is your 3p cancel in basic form
and then that basic can be cancelled with the matrix ping
Theres a ticket for free wep and cub?
will ayla kaleido be on 4 da vinci and 2 guinevere when lucid dreamer comes out because glory took those before? i want to to hypertune them thats why i ask
f2p excess bc all goes to wep banner
cub only should be pulled with cub tickets
4 dv 2 eins (+ 2 guin if harmo)
cub green ticks from norman
Weapon dunno
ok i know i'm colorblind but are cub tickets actually green
eins on top or bottom?
Is 4pc diesel 4pc heisen viable for cw in ppc?
they sure as hell don't look green to me
atk minmax it goes on top but like i said before, just set it up for your own consistency
like if you already have a built dv set just make it work with that
need to finish the boss within 1 rot
Teal, or somethinf like that
Im sure the green% is pretty high in RGB 
i see
ok thank you very much
what do you do for rot 2 tho? since you need like 5 blazes to do ult 2 for shakes
cancel the basics with 3p and then dodge cancel the 3p animation?
what do you do when you get to 3 blaze tho
use the 3 blaze then repeat till ult2 can be done?
we have green tickets in pgr? 
Ye like for early stages or 4pc cottie better?
early
I call cub ticks green
What color it looks to you
if you cant kill within 1 rot you must put on 4 cot
nah it's green
touch some grass color?
it's not a full green tho
wym wata is green
it's blue too

second rot i do 2+3 blaze or 3+2 blaze depending on when i think qtes will come up
Have you seen the grass deep in the sea? 
oh i forgot to hit reply
but yeah it's like 5 blaze to get ult2 on second rot
what is this for?
so you can do 2+3, 3+2, or if you missed the matrix proc you can do 1+4
leap
or 4+1 i mean
as it says
certain characters have extra skills on top of their base kits
at least this rot isn't too different from the old rot I do besides some more precise stuff
you need those materials to level those new skills up
to be fair i am uh
resource sinkhole 
giving you the rot i do because i think what other people do is actually a little different
but i think my rot is more intuitive and the people i've told it to agree
someone do dfm for me 
i think other people's wata shakes rot does stuff with 2 bullets
Leap
Its a buff to old powercrept unit
Well I guess not all of em 
oh kk tysm
leap is either a buff to non-meta unit that stays non-meta, or buff to meta unit that stays meta
there is only ONE case of leap changing a unit's meta status
leap of faith
I might just build heisen to see if that would give me a better time in chaos
if you have harmo on any of the other 2 it's better to put it there
why not putting those heis on garnet
I aint harmonizing a due date unit
if he doesn't have harmo on the other 2 then there's nowhere else to put it

i don't have harmo garnet either but i put heisen on feral
wym garnet best lightning tank 

Quick question , was it 400 or 500 ppc shards?
500 for all 30 shards
500
500


Ok thank you, I keep forgetting this idk why
That's alot of shards
It's crazy how i have 1k skulls just from this patch
@zenith kernel i got to w16
uploading the run on yt rn 
shouldn't you have 1500
since it's triple bonus
so when you actually buy them it's 100 and then 400
that's where you might remember 400 from
Dalao gaming
Now kill wave 16
I thought it should've been 4500 
Sure is not for me
swipe so i can do that 
dw I'm at 30 skulls myself 


To the better kuro game

what da hekk genshit 2
wuthering waves so peak
spending on a game with 50/50
pgr could never
Just win
i play wuwa on pixiv only 
Is the “emperor” on ppc resistant to lightning dmg or smth.
ofc he is...he's ice weak
My ss cw seems to not do any dmg whatsoever
yea no sht
I don’t have an ice team
Checks out
cooked then
cooked
i wonder why
oh well, that's how it is
Have you tried doing ice damage with CW?
also to be fair cw does no damage regardless nowadays
I only got physical and lightning teams
yay the 2 weakest teams rn
time grind for more teams
So cooked 😭

should have pulled like any of the last 3 S ranks
I did use Luna oblivion on Lilith and got 500k so I guess that’s good?
well
yeah good enough
from what it sounds like your account is going through
Ig that's fine
I came back for Luna oblivion, wasn’t playing the last couple patches really
completely bricked
@zenith kernel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgxkoZ_Ltt8

I think it might be Stoned
Idk😔
@glass bay u wouldn't believe this
I mean I can use s rank chrome and ayla kaleido, will that give me better results?
oh yeah definitely
?
i mean yes but you say that like you want to use kaleido as the support
This legend scoring really makes 0 sense to me?
Cer has 287 On wave 15
Unless my eyes are acting up again
and i must inform you that kaleido is your ice dps lol
prisoner healing again 
Lee completely useless?
Hmm thanks for the tips yall
Well idk, haven't malded wata hyper empy team yet
are there any other enemies in the game that could heal besides those damn prisoners lmao
U almost killed w20?
Probably why my scores were so Inconsistent
I just decided to completely slack it, not dealing with that bs mechanic😭
could be replaced by newer lucia in the future 
Nah still stuck
I got like half hp on it but the rng on first few wave with Lee is so annoying
I recorded it
time to yt it 

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