📨・meta-help

[gleaming gate]

Should i get S weapon for luna?

[remote pier]

And that's like what, a decades away?

[manic meadow]

Aight

[boreal lynx]

4 months i think

[raw swift]

@sand laurel

S Rank weapon yes very nice very cool

[remote pier]

Selena piano is literally just released in CN

[broken elk]

i guess

[abstract heron]

why is it so wide

and yes

[broken elk]

i mean it's like 100% pity at 30x pulls (i think) so...

[raw swift]

It's 80

[arctic imp]

Isnt it 80/20

[night sigil]

Months away

[raw swift]

With no guarantee so you can lose however many times

[boreal lynx]

i thought it was 70

[raw swift]

That's for characters

[broken elk]

i think it's 80 but i think it;s like 30 pulls

[night sigil]

How to check date again?

[gleaming gate]

This for luna?

[arctic imp]

Yeah still 30

[broken elk]

different luna

[arctic imp]

Thats Luna Laurel

[raw swift]

Estimates say june-july

[vale raft]

Current Roadmap (as of Feb 11th 2025)

[arctic imp]

Look for Luna Oblivion

[vale raft]

PGR Banner Info

1. Banners in Punishing: Gray Raven are broadly divided into 3 types

a. Character Banner
b. Weapon Banner
c. C.U.B. Banner

2. Depending on gacha rates and pity for guaranteed S rank drop, there are 2 types Omniframe banners -

a. Banner with 60 pity — has a 0.5% rate for S rank Omniframe
b. Banner with 80~100 pity — has a 1.5% rate for S rank Omniframe

Standard Banners

• Standard Omniframe Banner - You can choose A rank characters in this banner while the S rank is random if you hit pity. This banner has 40 pity if you are a newbie and once you hit that pity the pity changes to 60. This banner also has a S rank Omniframe selector tied to it which is only once per account.
  Note - If an A rank Omniframe is on debut, the specific A rank Omniframe will have 100% droprate on this banner. Otherwise every A rank Omniframe is on 80% droprate. The S rank pool of this banner gets updated every 2 patches.

Weapon Banners

• Standard Weapon Banner - Weapon banner with 30 pity. Cannot select which Signature Weapon you want, so the Signature weapon (6 star) will be random once you hit the pity.
• Target Weapon Banner - Weapon Banner with 30 pity. Signature weapon can be selected in this banner according to your choice. The selected signature weapon will have 80% droprate while the other 20% droprate is split inbetween the other 2 Signature weapons in the banner.

Event Banners

• Event Themed Banner - appears every S rank Omniframe patch. This banner has the debut S rank Omniframe at 100% droprate (you have to hit the pity and it's guaranteed to drop the debut character).
• Event Fate Themed Banner - same as above but with 80~100 pity and 1.5% rate (mentioned above in point #2)
• Event Arrival Banner - this one is basically the rerun banner of PGR. It sometimes comes with 2 or more Omniframes on rerun at 70% droprate (hit pity then it's 70/30).
• Event Fate Arrival Banner — same as above but with 80~100 pity and 1.5% rate (mentioned above in point #2)
• Anniversary Banner - Comes out every Anniversary. Any S rank can be selected and they'll have 100% droprate just like Themed banner. This too has a Fate banner option.

Uniframe Banner

• Target Uniframe Banner - Uniframes are niche characters in PGR. They don't have much use. Their banner has a lower pity which is 10 pulls. They usually have 80% droprate but if an Uniframe is on debut they'll have 100% droprate.

C.U.B. Banners

• Target C.U.B. Banner - the pity is 20 pulls. If a certain C.U.B. is tied with the debut S rank Omniframe, then they'll have 100% droprate during that patch, after the patch is over they'll have 80% droprate when selected.

Useful Information

• A rank Omniframes are always guaranteed on 10 pulls in any Omniframe banner.
• Arrival and Fate banners are generally not recommended to be pulled on as Fate banners take more Black cards than normal banner and Arrival banners have 70% droprate.
• Uniframes must be avoided at all cost as they have no purpose anymore.
• C.U.B.s are more or less for whales. F2Ps can ignore.

[broken elk]

jeez 💀

[remote pier]

Tf

[arctic imp]

Lucia soon?!

[night sigil]

Thank you

[broken elk]

APRIL 2ND

[boreal lynx]

told u 4 months 😼

[white quiver]

I guess ishmael is the only skippable ish character

[raw swift]

Could've been a crazy april fools joke

[broken elk]

I SHOULD GRIND QUICK BRO 😭

[sand laurel]

god of scrolling

[white quiver]

But let's be real, who's gonna skip ish

[raw swift]

Me

[broken elk]

prob me

[sand laurel]

https://tenor.com/7tW7.gif

[white quiver]

You'll fold on her patch trust

[raw swift]

I've already folded

[arctic imp]

If she isnt needed for a team then I’ll skip

[digital moat]

They defo should release her on April 1st

[white quiver]

I mean she's not HEAVILY needed for much

[digital moat]

Then just eos the game

[storm lion]

Lucia fire or something else?

[digital moat]

[white quiver]

You can go just fine with other strong units

[abstract heron]

i'm going to touch you

[remote pier]

Won a medal?

[white quiver]

Hnnnng

[raw swift]

Void

[broken elk]

WHAT

[abstract heron]

don't say that ever again

[white quiver]

Lmaoo

[gleaming gate]

Should i buy this for luna?

[raw swift]

Just because Luna is more important doesn't mean Ishmael is useless

[broken elk]

ch1 type of chat rn 😭

[sand laurel]

saying cubs are for whale is kinda farcry tbh

[raw swift]

That's the wrong Luna

[white quiver]

Bro I live in ch1

[pine slate]

Every character is a must pull

[white quiver]

I live with those racist Germans and Russians

[arctic imp]

Is this rage bait?

[broken elk]

different luna

[night sigil]

That's lucia

[gleaming gate]

What weapon for luna

[arctic imp]

[raw swift]

Luna Oblivion's weapon needs to be pulled from a banner

[gleaming gate]

I can't

[vale raft]

Luna: Oblivion

Dark Moon ★★★★★

Deconstruction

Nihil DMG increases by 10%.

ATK

354

CRIT

201

Chakram

[broken elk]

Reconstruction of law

either that or the 5 star variant

[sand laurel]

just get her 5 star

[broken elk]

eh pick your poison

[gleaming gate]

From where

[raw swift]

From coop

[sand laurel]

newbie noobs shouldnt pull on weapon banners

[brazen igloo]

do ppl use leeuwenhoek because of the increased shred effect or is there something else?

[night sigil]

5* recycle

[raw swift]

For who?

[digital moat]

On who

[brazen igloo]

rigor

[raw swift]

It's her signature memory

[white quiver]

I remember how laggy coop was

Good god

[digital moat]

It's commonly used for rose

[white quiver]

Thankfully those days over for me

[remote pier]

What else would you use if not leeu on rigor

[brazen igloo]

yeah but 20% isn't that much compared to what dv provides

[digital moat]

Dv Rigor brainrot

[arctic imp]

Become dolphin and pull on weapon banner

[white quiver]

Bro wym just use leu

It ain't that deep

[remote pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/827422295395794974/1238881407506579487/1052891855706128466.gif

[raw swift]

Alisa holds dv

[white quiver]

2 Catherine 4 leu

[night sigil]

Lance of dv

[brazen igloo]

dont have harmo tho

[vale raft]

Leeuwenhoek ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

ATK increases by 3% and Physical DMG increases by 7%.

4pc Set Bonus

Increases the effect of Lance of Perception by 20%. Deals 5% more damage against targets under the effect of Lance of Perception.

ATK

133

CRIT

64

DEF

223

HP

1506

[broken elk]

me who pulled for nightblaze few weeks ago:

[sand laurel]

remember coop?
those they are over for me

nightblaze?

[raw swift]

Increases Lance of Perception effect by 20%

[visual topaz]

Def shred

[white quiver]

It was some hot ass

[sand laurel]

[wispy robin]

you haven't experienced real coop if you haven't played it with 400 ping

[gleaming gate]

Ty

[white quiver]

Unfortunately I did

Aye bro, we all got to experience it again during that one raid boss event

Although it wasn't as bad

[night sigil]

With playing on other server also

[sand laurel]

was the server in north korea or what?

[raw swift]

Oh yeah

[broken elk]

Gonna get my account bricked after 1 more

[remote pier]

Ew

[white quiver]

Going for cw investment right now is diabolical

[digital moat]

Oh look reso mat

[boreal lynx]

why not

[broken elk]

reso mat so...

[sand laurel]

isn't cw sig free in the future?

[broken elk]

yes

[white quiver]

Could've been a proper sig that you don't have

[digital moat]

Yes

[arctic imp]

Is Lilith needed for dark team I want to continue using my Teddy

[gleaming gate]

What can i recycle

[white quiver]

Waaay better characters to invest in

[gleaming pine]

nah i'm ded

[woven haven]

yes

[gleaming gate]

I use this team so none are usable

[woven haven]

teddy provides no value after lilith

[broken elk]

like watanabe?

[arctic imp]

The 5* you aren’t using

[night sigil]

Free r2 for f2p's

[raw swift]

[boreal lynx]

💀

[arctic imp]

[boreal lynx]

why not

[white quiver]

Watanabe, lamia, luna, an amplifier, there's a lot more

Qu

[night sigil]

She provides aesthetic

[broken elk]

yea low key after trying out my friend's watanabe i knew i bricked my account lol

[white quiver]

I hope you got it Early lmao

Otherwise you cooked yourself hard

[broken elk]

whom?

[white quiver]

The weapon drop

[broken elk]

i did

[woven haven]

because all of teddy buffs are overriden by lilith

[white quiver]

I guess it's not AS bad

[night sigil]

Newbies picking qu rn are in luck

[woven haven]

idk what’s so difficult to understand

[night sigil]

Wanshi next patch and ayla on the free S selector

[white quiver]

Qu without sig though

[boreal lynx]

ohh

[white quiver]

Might as well play ploom

[broken elk]

i got the weapon early on so yea

[woven haven]

if anything that’s more a reason to pick wata

[broken elk]

like 3rd day of log in or 5th

[woven haven]

you get most of the ice team free and qu is free in later selector

[gleaming gate]

All? The problem is that i could use them later if i get other characters

[broken elk]

(i did not check my dates :3)

[white quiver]

Yeah, just try Investing into the newer units

[broken elk]

i will probably

depends if my schedule is packed or not

[arctic imp]

You wont be using the chainsaw and the 5* for Camu is useless if you aren’t playing game modes that need him

[tardy drum]

does kaleido work better instead of empy with wata and oblivion or is it the same

[night sigil]

Well if they can pull for wata in Ishmael S selector reset they can achieve ss3

[remote pier]

Kale better

[broken elk]

ok imma go sleep

[tardy drum]

qu free when

[white quiver]

Bruh I'm thinking about using tempest weapon for reso

[night sigil]

Pianissimo

[white quiver]

But it's a crime to take away my girl's sig

[tardy drum]

June then

[remote pier]

Just swipe some more smh

[white quiver]

Oh fr?

[night sigil]

Yeah

[tardy drum]

Should i pull any copies of wanshi

[white quiver]

I honestly would use it but like.. it has a reso on it already

[night sigil]

But either way they aren't that bricked right?

[white quiver]

I wish Kuro would refund some reso shards if you use a sig with a reso on it

[remote pier]

Don't do Selena like that

[white quiver]

But bro my lamia needs dlt

[remote pier]

Just weave basic attack

[boreal lynx]

either im slow or i just don’t know how to read this

[arctic imp]

Lamia’s sig is required?

[boreal lynx]

yeah i was just slow nvm

[white quiver]

Yeaaah

[remote pier]

Lamia doesn't need her sig

[arctic imp]

Mine has been rocking 5* for months

[white quiver]

Bro using a 5* is so cope

[remote pier]

But she's a lot better with it

[night sigil]

Me too

[remote pier]

Lamia doesn't have anything locked behind her sig though

[night sigil]

Better than investing on a character that gets outdamage by an amplifier

[thorn creek]

[gleaming gate]

Should i buy epitaph or empyrea 5* weapon?

[boreal lynx]

epi

i think

[remote pier]

Def epi

[ionic vale]

successful purchase

[boreal lynx]

also later on will wanshi be able to be on field on luna team or nah

[remote pier]

Yes

[boreal lynx]

finally no more solo cope 🙏

[vale raft]

Luna: Oblivion <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:annihilator:1285900128489701436><:void_element:1285900049909284864><:disorder:1288089672718876787>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set

Memories

4x Cleopatra
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

Cottie

[white quiver]

4 cottie and a bunch of extra damage bruh

Because damage matters especially on attackers

[night sigil]

Why flex in a gameplay help channel 😭

[vale raft]

Watanabe: Epitaph <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:tank:1290614106520555571><:fire_element:1290613867365273630>

Harmony Tank Set

Usage

Harmony Tank/Sub-DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks for Luna: Oblivion and subsequently Lucia: Pyroath when they release
Used for all future Void and Fire content
Recommended to use after Qu:Shukra patch release (Polaris Bond).
Requires DLT weapon resonance and Harmony.
Harmony Set (Requires Harmony on Signature 6 Weapon)*

Memories

4x Alphonse
2x Shakespeare
2x Shakespeare (Harmony)

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Red Orb
Bottom Slot: 6x Class Passive

[remote pier]

But that's not a need. Esp compared to units like Qu who actually need it.

[white quiver]

Yeah Qu Literally doesn't work at all without sig

[ionic vale]

and where should I send it :>

[white quiver]

But even then, modern units really really want their sigs

[remote pier]

Rip bozo that can't afford qu sig

[white quiver]

Some more than others sure

[white quiver]

That bozo was me for two weeks

[boreal lynx]

im scared for the time when i’ll eventually have to start skipping sigs

[remote pier]

[white quiver]

I wanted to kms

[past thicket]

f2ps no rights Lilick2

[remote pier]

Aren't you whel though

[topaz vigil]

Is SS3, enough for wata epitaph since im using 4 shakespear

[white quiver]

Bruh I didn't skip them but I lost 80/20 back to back

[night sigil]

#🌞・trophy-room

[white quiver]

I'm f2p

But very old player

[past thicket]

u run both shakes and cottie at all ranks

[glass bay]

I'm scared to save scores on this ppc

In case I get fk

[topaz vigil]

I use shakes and alphonse

[broken osprey]

Wait Wata takes his tank reso after Pyroath not his sig reso?

[topaz vigil]

New to the game srry I don't understand

[night sigil]

What about the

[white quiver]

Being able to quick reso is Soooooo good bruh

[remote pier]

Midcia is the DPS

[past thicket]

u can swap to 4 alphonse 4 cottie if u want more/faster ult rotations

[white quiver]

You just buy a crap ton of memory shards and spam until you get the right reso

[glass bay]

What u mean

[broken osprey]

So I need to change his reso then.....

[night sigil]

Weeklies

[topaz vigil]

What do u recco tho? It's so hard to choose help

[broken osprey]

For Shakes set.

[glass bay]

I mean i will save but when I get a good score

[past thicket]

u can honestly just stick to shakes if ur lazy to build ig

should be good enough for most content if u dont wanna min-max

[night sigil]

I used cottie

[topaz vigil]

Yeah ok thanks

[remote pier]

Void needs Wata class reso so...

[past thicket]

now build shakes

[night sigil]

I resoed his signature and red orbz

[gleaming gate]

Bot is lagging

Is this epitaph weapon?

[night sigil]

Yeah

You'll have to use it if you don't have 6*

[remote pier]

Pale

[gleaming gate]

F2p no 6*

[night sigil]

[remote pier]

Are new f2ps not swimming with bc?

[glass bay]

What is a new F2p

[sly geyser]

too stingy to pull

[night sigil]

Either pulling coatings or characters i guess

[boreal lynx]

i have 15k rn

[broken osprey]

Okay so I have two sets for Wata Sig + Cottie & Sig + Shakes so if I change his entire Shakes set for tank reso will it change his sig reso for Cottie?

[gleaming gate]

I have to scrap 2 5* weapons

[night sigil]

That's fine

[raw swift]

yes

[gleaming gate]

Which ones

[raw swift]

[raw swift]

The recommendation says Epitaph so...

equip pale plume on Epitaph

[gleaming gate]

No i mena what weapons to scrap

That i m the most likely to not use in future

[raw swift]

it depends on ur team ngl

[raw swift]

if u have missing s ranks then it's best to not scrap them for now cuz u will use the 5* weapon and that a rank for a coping option

[raw swift]

are u going to pull for Luna's weapon?

[gleaming gate]

No i only pull characters

[raw swift]

[gleaming gate]

Ye i have 0 black card

Because i pulled on luna

[remote pier]

🧱

[gleaming gate]

What should i do

[glass bay]

do more events and story

get the bc

[gleaming gate]

Not enough to do 60 pulls

15000 bc

[raw swift]

weapon banner pity is only 30

[deft apex]

fate is only 1 pull

[sinful violet]

For epitaph if I have his sig should I make him main support

[raw swift]

[remote pier]

main support? Wutt

[raw swift]

Support?

[gleaming gate]

Daym

[sinful violet]

Main tank?

[gleaming gate]

I will try

Ty

[raw swift]

He is the DPS for the team tho until Pyroath comes

[sinful violet]

I'm using luna, liv emp and him tho

So wouldn't he be better as a sub dps

[woven haven]

that's specifically void team only

for fire you drop luna

because she does no fire dmg

[sinful violet]

Kk so I got for main dps build on him?

[vale raft]

Watanabe: Epitaph <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:tank:1290614106520555571><:fire_element:1290613867365273630>

Harmony Tank Set

Usage

Harmony Tank/Sub-DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks for Luna: Oblivion and subsequently Lucia: Pyroath when they release
Used for all future Void and Fire content
Recommended to use after Qu:Shukra patch release (Polaris Bond).
Requires DLT weapon resonance and Harmony.
Harmony Set (Requires Harmony on Signature 6 Weapon)*

Memories

4x Alphonse
2x Shakespeare
2x Shakespeare (Harmony)

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Red Orb
Bottom Slot: 6x Class Passive

[woven haven]

if you have his sig build this set

[sinful violet]

I haven't got the harmony on his sig yet

Should I get harmony on his sig first or Lunas

[woven haven]

his

[sinful violet]

Kk

[echo current]

Is r2 qu worth it

[nova forum]

No

Give that Reso to tank first

[soft anchor]

should i max out bridget ardeo? (ofc i have her on sss+). is she even good? i dont know when she came out

[nova forum]

[raw swift]

do u have the fire team?

[soft anchor]

not a single fire character is maxed for me lol

[echo current]

Dumb question: does Qte activate the class passive of tanks reducing their resistance?

[soft anchor]

i usually max what i like to play and i use that mostly in phantom pain and war

[woven haven]

yes for class passive EDR shred
but no for innate RES shred unless its specifically written down

for example XXI doesn't have RES shred on QTE until SSS rank
garnet doesn't have RES shred on QTE without signature memory 4pc
Glory doesn't have RES shred on QTE without signature weapon

but all 3 have the class EDR shred

[echo current]

Ahhh

Gotcha thx

[broken osprey]

So should I use the same sig memory for Shakes set for his class passive because I wanna have two sets like for Shakes with his class passive and Sig reso with Cottie set?

[exotic fulcrum]

Does Balter need sig to be usable?

[remote pier]

yes

[exotic fulcrum]

Well, Phuck

[broken osprey]

@woven haven

[raw swift]

oui

[woven haven]

not worth

her sig is garbage to get now that hanying is next and selena kills her

[exotic fulcrum]

I see, was worried for my 7.5k BC

[woven haven]

don't roll old sigs anymore

hanying sig is more impt

[exotic fulcrum]

Not even Empy?

[subtle zinc]

It really comes down to resources and min maxing and if you want to have optimal swap builds for PPC too. I use for Sig and Class because Shake is easy to move around esp if you want to drop signature for Eins/gloria etc

[woven haven]

especially not empy ffs

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/punishing-gray-raven-liv-liv-emprya-crying-sad-gif-16877849359180330014

[woven haven]

empy sig is useless for support unless you can feed resos to a dying amp at which point you'd be loaded before you even consider empy sig

[exotic fulcrum]

I am going to do the dumbest move. Skipping Hanying cos Blue ticket exists. If I pull for Hanying Next patch, My future Plans are messed up.

[remote pier]

[woven haven]

ok but that doesn't mean you don't get her sig

she still needs it

[exotic fulcrum]

I'll get it in Ishmael Patch.

[woven haven]

dumber move is to get balter or empy sigs at this point in time over hanying + wanshi + lucia + ishmael + nanami + selena sigs

[ripe stag]

Wanshi's set won't change when he swaps to Glaciation ?

[woven haven]

2nd class reso set cuz fk u

4sig4zuwen but class

[exotic fulcrum]

Oh thanks I was worried af. Wait Does Wanshi Need sig?

[woven haven]

ofc he wants sig

its not a free one

[ripe stag]

I'm gonna love myself

[exotic fulcrum]

Ah 7.5K BC prepare yourself.

[ripe stag]

Yes
4 Chen Jiyuan

[exotic fulcrum]

Well then, For my pull plans to NOT ruin, Gotta Cope with sigless Balter until May

[remote pier]

could be worse

[warm cove]

New patch next week ?

[raw swift]

si senior

[barren plank]

Is Pyroath cub skippable if need be?

[broken osprey]

Well I have the resources and want to build him for Void and Pyroath. As you have two sig memory do you have different resonance for memory and does it overlap with Cottie set?

[warm cove]

Tell me choco

[exotic fulcrum]

I Only dominate fire zone because I have a decent wata. Dark is my worst atm

[vale raft]

Yi Kong <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:fire_element:1290613867365273630>

Damage, Crowd Control

**Passive Skills**

Shiny FLight

Yi Kong's Active Skills deal 70% more DMG.

Magnificent Grip

Increases the ATK of Yi Kong's carrier by 100.

Brilliant Radiance

Upon activating Yi Kong's Active Skills, the carrier's Extra DMG Bonus will increase by 5% for 8s. Duration resets every time it is triggered.

Devouring Conflagration

Increases the carrier's Fire DMG by 10% and the carrier's Lightning DMG during Electronic Blast state by 10%.

Apricity of Tomorrow

When Lucia: Pyroath casts Basic Attack - Air-splitting Rays with Yi Kong equipped, summon Yi Kong to assist, dealing 2500% Fire DMG once. Base DMG increase effect of Radiant Engraving towards Signature Move - Auxiliary Precision Slash and Signature Move - Endless Eclipse increases by 20%

[warm cove]

25k bc saved

[ripe stag]

No it's not

Fck you

Double elemental buff

[exotic fulcrum]

Any decent Dark tanks for suggestion?

https://pgr.kurogames.com/jp/#Home

[raw swift]

20th 先輩

[ripe stag]

With 20% ult damage

[warm cove]

Every cub is skippable

[ripe stag]

Wanshi cub

[raw swift]

Except Wanshi cub

[warm cove]

Cubs are not even a thing for f2p players like me 🧑‍🍳

[ripe stag]

TF ?

[raw swift]

senior

[ripe stag]

Me with all cubs somehow

[warm cove]

But is wanshi cub free ? Only thing that matters

[exotic fulcrum]

Any Decent dark tank suggestion?
https://huaxu.app/ap/players/27080670/characters

[raw swift]

im tripping balls

[raw swift]

oh

[exotic fulcrum]

Sorry Lmao that was my JP acc

[warm cove]

https://tenor.com/view/wind-breaker-wind-breaker-togame-anime-wave-anime-hello-togame-jo-gif-8582759802918432362

[ripe stag]

That was not even JP account

That was JP PGR website

[raw swift]

A rank No.21

[exotic fulcrum]

It was a link to client.

[ripe stag]

[barren plank]

It's 10%

[exotic fulcrum]

Just a QTE bot?

[remote pier]

his account is the entire JP pgr

[ripe stag]

Rip no

[raw swift]

[exotic fulcrum]

Ah

[subtle zinc]

For void and with Lucia you want shake and sig, like I had in my 2nd screenshot with red/class. This is useful 🙂

[raw swift]

[barren plank]

Cause of sig mem% dilution

[ripe stag]

10% double elemental buff

[ripe stag]

Oh you meant that

[warm cove]

Skip everything for Lucia cw yakuza coating , meta is temporary , fashion is eternal

[deft apex]

Apparently 15% according to possibly aether

[ripe stag]

Btw how much dilution is Wanshi's CUB facing ?@barren plank

[barren plank]

He has three multipliers only one of them is diluted

[ripe stag]

BRO WHAT

[barren plank]

Yea his cub is arguably more important than his sig

[ripe stag]

Anyways

50k before next patch?

[ripe stag]

That I know

[woven haven]

that’s not how it works…

[barren plank]

Idk I assumed it was 10% because I didnt read her sig mem

[woven haven]

it is not affected by sig mem

[barren plank]

Oh

[echo current]

Whel

[broken osprey]

Yeah so what I wanna do is for Shakes set I want his tank class reso and for Cottie his sig reso so here is my question since I have the same 4 piece with both set i.e Shakes & Cottie so me chaning Shakes entire set to class passive will it change the cottie set i.e which has the same 4 piece sig memory to his tank passive which is set to sig reso in Cottie set?

[raw swift]

SSS Hanying?

[woven haven]

lucia sig mem says base dmg doubles
what it does is edb for ult +100%

CUB sig passive is a 13% ult dmg increase at ss0
but 10% at sss

Wanshi CUB is +150% post dilution dmg bonus for ult1 and +50% dmg for ult2

[subtle zinc]

so if your shake has class on it, and your cottie memories have sig, you ll have 4 class and 2 sig which is fine. The harmonized memories dont add class or sig if thats what you are confused about? But generally if you use shake you wont use cottie

[woven haven]

hanying cub is 35% dmg increase for all her core moves

[broken osprey]

Nah my concern is on the 4 piece sig memory which is shared with cottie and shakes.

[barren plank]

@ripe stag

[echo current]

Is this thing perma?

[barren plank]

I believe so

[woven haven]

yes

[echo current]

Oh nice

[subtle zinc]

Yeah so I made two new ones and HTed them for that reason so I have both class and Sig options

[echo current]

Gonna use that for ss3 nanaknight

[woven haven]

assuming nanami + ishmael is synced together
its better to roll this than nanami debut unironically

cuz it has free mats and a chance to pity earlier

[echo current]

I'll prolly just buy some packs to get it ill see

[broken osprey]

So essentially I need to build his 4 piece from scratch for his tank passive?

[drifting bison]

Hi, Guys. Sorry. I'm going to ask about which 6stars and 5stars should I pick as a noob. Is it okay to dump the screenshots here?

[raw swift]

ok sure and nice pfp btw

[echo current]

Ooooh I can get feral's weapon from this

[drifting bison]

Haha, thanks. So yeah... Here it is... Which one is the best?

[exotic vessel]

is there any gamemode where u cant share gear?

[drifting bison]

For the record. I am lvl 82 alr... I just came back from being 928 days offline

[subtle zinc]

Sorry, I am not really sure I can provide you more guidance. It just comes down to resource mgt and how much you want to min max... you saw all the options 🙂 Running him with class vs sig and such only matters for pre lucia Fire WZ score. Future proof wata has Shake/Alph (or eins gloria for ppc) all with class resos

[broken osprey]

Okay lemme put it this way does having different sets with the same 4 piece memory affect the same memory in a different set? Or I need to use a new memory for my desired outcome ?

[glass bay]

almost 40k bc now

[thorn creek]

K whel

[raw swift]

how many do u have

[barren plank]

From left to right, top to bottom:
1.) Doesn't really matter much, just don't pick Luminance
2.) Laurel
3.) Tonitrus
4.) Hypnos
5.) Choose depending on the units u have
6.) Qilin or Aminus, either works
7.) FA2D
8.) Choose depending on ur units

[viral nest]

If I am looking to spend a little bit is it a good time to? If yes then what's the best value for money?

[raw swift]

budget?

[viral nest]

5dollar ish ig

[broken osprey]

@subtle zinc Hope I was able to make my concern clear.

[glass bay]

now is horrific value for money

[viral nest]

Horrific as in a good way or bad?

[glass bay]

bad, u get 3x less than what u pay for

[viral nest]

[glass bay]

[raw swift]

well yea

[drifting bison]

Wait so I want Laurel but not her Sign? And I choose Hypnos but he's only A tier atm, while my Vera is S or SS as i recall. And i don't really understand how most of this works tbh. Can you walk me through it?

[raw swift]

well for 5 dollars... U can only get the 1,400 orange tickets

unless u bump it up to 6 dollars

[glass bay]

5 dollars cant even get MPA?

[raw swift]

I checked coda, no

[viral nest]

I've heard stories of monthly pass which can help you get weapons

[raw swift]

unless I'm wrong

[glass bay]

[meager iris]

If you currently have 6 signature pieces with cottie just keep it like this until lucia comes and then re reso to class skill

[viral nest]

I can buy 30rc monthly pass according to Google Play

[raw swift]

Oh wait u can get monthly pass but it's the B

[raw swift]

Oh ok

[glass bay]

i made an entirely new set with tank reso

[broken osprey]

I wanna build him for void too.

[glass bay]

[meager iris]

Why do you do that

[glass bay]

coz i can

[viral nest]

So is it true?

[meager iris]

Sure but building two sets is kinda meh since ht mats do not grow on trees tbh

[viral nest]

On what should I spend?

I currently have 45kbc

[meager iris]

Also his signature resos will be useless when Lucia comes so having 2 builds is kinda inefficient

[exotic vessel]

solacetune is coming next patch right? should i ss her or stigmata, whos the dps

[thorn creek]

[broken osprey]

Nvm I tried changing his reso to tank in Shakes set but it also got changed in Cottie set got my answer.

[meager iris]

So simple answer, if you have sig resos keep them till lucia, if you have class skill just keep it and cope for 1 patch

[raw swift]

[barren plank]

Her, always SS newer people
She's the dps btw

[thorn creek]

Told u imma fate hanying

[viral nest]

So is monthly pass worth it?

30rc one?

[shadow holly]

if there was one single thing worth in this game it would be the monthly pass

[glass bay]

fk whel

[glass bay]

but is this game worth?

[shadow holly]

no

[raw swift]

can't wait for the stream

[glass bay]

[thorn creek]

[viral nest]

Yes. After going through the story, yes.

[subtle zinc]

this maybe helpful idk the set is the set the resonance are independant 🙂

[raw swift]

fk whel

[subtle zinc]

thats not even a whale clip omgash

[raw swift]

[broken osprey]

Well aight thanks that answers my question.

[exotic vessel]

qte counts as attacking right?

[glass bay]

i dno why but qu cjy seems to be alot more dmg

compared to when glory carrying

[glass bay]

yea

[subtle zinc]

Yeah it does but those specific memys are so powerful they are used on main DPS right now (PPC has some exceptions.)

[subtle zinc]

yeah I dont have lantern and have tested glory CJ and ayla is just better at appplying timely debuffs Qu CJY is massive damage, remember it lasts 8 seconds, but has a 10 sec cd on same target, so shes basically applying it to everything she touches with super high up time bc she hits so often everywhere. QTE application is awful

[rocky wedge]

@dapper skiff @lament yoke here is a really good example of good rot when dive can be very useful, literally increased my score this rot by diving more often lmao

https://youtu.be/niDHsRCYtJ0?si=j1kYvOo64j567xGl

juju has 3.12mil this round in hero too with same invest as the vid

[subtle zinc]

oh this is not the current WZ

I was so confused

[gentle cedar]

What does this "bound" mean? Only that character can use the memory if I do this?

[viral nest]

I just checked there's no way to pay and buy in India So if I get a google play redeem code and use it will it work?

[dawn monolith]

question, is there any reason to use ayla kaleido S non sig over hypnos SSS non sig? for a shukra party i mean

[little locust]

It means only that character will receive the effect of the resonance on the memory, if you equip it to another character they can still use the memory but won't receive the resonance effect

[viral nest]

Does anyone have an idea about it?

[gentle cedar]

Ah got it, thanks!

[raw swift]

I think it will

idk

[viral nest]

[gentle cedar]

I only know the pc and android/ios version don't share the purchases or something like that

[viral nest]

In other words, I should stay F2p

[subtle zinc]

@little locust hi hi ready for IB tmrw??

[viral nest]

Or just f**k to play

[raw swift]

Well u can use vpn and try out codashop

[little locust]

Yes!

[viral nest]

[viral nest]

Codashop doesn't even show pgr in its indian website so

[austere solar]

should i pull for luna oblivion's weapon as an f2p?

[viral nest]

[raw swift]

try different codashop websites

[dawn monolith]

probably yes, is very unusable without it, but depends too if it messes your income for the next char

[raw swift]

Pakistan has one

[austere solar]

oh okie. tbh i dont think i will be able to get it though. am at 0 pity 190 black cards and only 8 days left on banner

[subtle zinc]

I´m just glad dark affix should not appear on Lamia lol

[viral nest]

I'll stay f2p then. I was considering spending coz I got a massive 50% discount on google play purchases lol

[little locust]

I hope so, dark is just so annoying in IB with the dumb orb gimmick

[dawn monolith]

weapons are the only thing that stays as release without getting values up or down

[nova forum]

Should I change hyper to Alisa for my fire team

[dawn monolith]

so you can get it the next patch or the next next one

[frank flint]

is Teddy's 6* weapon prio? or i can use 5*?

• for dark
• replacing vera

[raw swift]

Wait like Google play cards?

oh mb

[dawn monolith]

5 is enough

[nova forum]

P sure SSS empy outdamage ss0 hyper

[frank flint]

ty

[austere solar]

oh right. i can just get it later

[raw swift]

yea it does work mb mb

[dawn cloak]

Only if you want to main dps with her

[dawn monolith]

A chars arent worth to get signatures

[austere solar]

btw how do i obtain 5 star weapons?

[subtle zinc]

I was told this is the expectatþn from CN patterns but im not 100% sure

[dawn monolith]

coop

[austere solar]

that's the only way?

[viral nest]

Gacha

[dawn monolith]

if you roll in weapon banner, and dont get the signature, you should get a 5* version, but using 10 rolls for that is very meh, and you can get jumpscared with the 6* instead and fk your pity count

[viral nest]

pull until you lose every cell of your body

[raw swift]

Co-op and gacha

[austere solar]

one more question. in a team of empyrea, epitaph and oblivion. should i build empyrea as a sub dps or support?

[lament yoke]

Thanks bro, illyyyyyy

[viral nest]

Dps

[dawn monolith]

support

[austere solar]

where is the gacha system for 5 stars?

[austere solar]

okie tysm.

[viral nest]

Every pgr character except sophia is dps

Change my mind

[dawn monolith]

in the banner with the A chars

[dawn cloak]

From pulling on 6* weapon banner

Co-op is kinda . . . waste of serum, especially in this 3in1 patch
Better use serum on farming event stage

[dawn monolith]

every pgr char does damage, can do little less with the unoptimal equipment, but usually that means the correct true damage source is higher

thats why empirea goes with davinci

[gleaming gate]

Which is better for empyrea

In this team

[dawn cloak]

This is gameplay help
Pls no misnfo

[dawn monolith]

bcs lucia pyroath and watanabe are better dps than her

[nova forum]

Changyuck can do damage?

[dawn monolith]

A rank gen1 damage, probably yes

i doubt he can be far from lucia B damage

[dawn cloak]

Use the bot, not ingame build
https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/663286717985456157

[dawn monolith]

right there man, put some order, thats why you are my favourite gbf char :3

[raw swift]

wth is gbf

[dawn monolith]

https://gbf.wiki/Randall_(SSR)

[dawn cloak]

LOL

Btw Im literally a lv73 newbie

Wadepuk

[raw swift]

Ohhhh

[austere solar]

do placing chars in these blue yellow and red rings in a order matter?

[dawn monolith]

really yes, but for deep combat system

for starters doesnt matter much

[austere solar]

whats that

[austere solar]

ic ic

[dawn monolith]

where QTE colors matters to call them

some chars dont use 1 color mainly, or the opposite, use 1 color more than the other 2

[austere solar]

i see

[dawn monolith]

so you can get more value of the offside chars, but at start you need to focus on how to fight and dodge more than that

[austere solar]

okie tysm

[dawn monolith]

as long as you keep playing, you will end understanding the color system

[dawn cloak]

Only advance gameplay
For example, Luna can only ping yellow orb outside her ult phase, so placing her on yellow isnt good because you cant use yellow qte

[austere solar]

okie

[dawn cloak]

Just follow red dps yellow tank blue support for general

[dawn monolith]

thats important, bcs usually the dps must enter from the bench

to do a free attack with it, usually that attack matters

so is recommended to not use the dps at start and change it in the first 1-2 seconds

[raw swift]

may i get some assistance on what to pick for all of these? ( i only have Luna & Watanabe )

[gleaming gate]

Should i just choose and recycle those?

I alr have kuji no sada

[dawn monolith]

6 weapon bow, high char probably rosetta rigor, and low char probably lee

[gleaming gate]

And guardian mount

[dawn monolith]

that are used to fodder other 5* too, so you can use them for that

[raw swift]

but isn't rosetta's getting power-crept soon?

[dawn monolith]

do you have the other best 2 options?

bcs if not, at least is a char that will cover some holes

[raw swift]

the 6* bow i understand.

[raw swift]

@raw swift

[empty cargo]

Ss Rosetta, changyu, S daren

[gleaming gate]

I don't use them

[dawn monolith]

is a weird reason, so i dont think you understand 😛

[dawn monolith]

you will, unless you are a whale, some of the chars will need weapons

[echo current]

Is jetavie confirmed a rank?

[raw swift]

for echo right?

[stray siren]

Luna Laurel

Whatever on the 5 character ticket, except Luminance

[raw swift]

yes, those are all preliminary information.

[dawn monolith]

yes, then you know xDDDD

[stray siren]

No (yet)

[echo current]

[dawn cloak]

I can only give the same advice the vets here to me, im newbie also
Pick Wanshi and XXI for A selector, and Luna Laurel and whoever (Lee Entropy I guess) for the non timer selector

The one that has expiry timer refer to this #📨・meta-help message

Maybe it helps

[dawn monolith]

the problem with laurel is you will need to invest in it to get good numbers, and you should aim to get lamia instead

[thorn creek]

[dawn monolith]

supposedly rigor can be futurely used for some quick combat

[raw swift]

yeah that seems the logical way to go around it, sadly lamia exists so laurel will be just a stepping stone i presume.

[dawn cloak]

Just use Teddy main dps atp

[dawn monolith]

so if isnt her, pick whatever float your boat

[dawn monolith]

yeh, more than probably xDDDD

at least will be a char that you will use after getting lamia

so wont be wasted resources

[dawn cloak]

I was adviced to just cope with Teddy main dps and Laurel sub dps, until we get Lilith.
Since Lilith is free and meta

[dawn monolith]

lilith is a support, lamia will be needed anyways

[viral nest]

How good is alisa echo's weapon?

[dawn cloak]

~~ and I love using Teddy omg ~~

[gleaming gate]

I only use 3 chars

[dawn monolith]

doesnt matter, the important part is the harmonize if im correct

[dawn cloak]

For now
Later on its impossible

[gleaming gate]

Between getting new weapon or upgrading one

[dawn cloak]

Current newbie can get away with just Luna Obliv it all lel

[raw swift]

i'm thinking ice lucia.

[viral nest]

Is 5 star weapon enough for her? Or the harmonization is needed?

[raw swift]

i don't have any ice dps.

[dawn monolith]

in the next patch will appear a S wanshi

[raw swift]

U used the standard on Uncle right?

[dawn cloak]

Your ice dps will come on 27th Feb

[raw swift]

oh yeah, i forgot.

[dawn monolith]

that will be like watanabe epitaf for ice

[raw swift]

also u don't need ice DPS since Wanshi is coming

[raw swift]

yes.

[raw swift]

U can pick Emphyrea

[dawn cloak]

Dont pull very old unit, they cant carry their weight anymore tbh

[raw swift]

Up to the Kaleido one

[dawn monolith]

thats why i think the only one that can hold something is rigor

[raw swift]

can't i get her from dorm?

[drifting bison]

Teddy is a DPS? I thought the sign makes her a healer

[dawn cloak]

Well if newbie use Rigor on selector, they give up Laurel

[raw swift]

Emphyrea?

[raw swift]

ayla.

[dawn monolith]

is a healer, but is a 2025 healer, so has the dps of some S chars

bcs balance sheet

[dawn cloak]

The sign yes.
On her ult, she can ping blue 3 ping non stop, so yea
Her dps potential is crazy

Not to mention you can SSS+ for free
Just consume 6000 serum

[raw swift]

well yea u can get Ayla on dorm

I'm talking about who to pick on the s rank selector up to Ayla

i'll show you my built characters, wait.

[dawn monolith]

yeh thats the other part, the SSS+ gives her so much dps that makes her very useable

[raw swift]

oh, now i got you what you meant.

[raw swift]

Ye

[dawn cloak]

Yea that one better refer to this
#📨・meta-help message
Its a good guide

[dawn monolith]

and how she works, is spam after spam of skills, is pretty constant

[gleaming gate]

Is pulling 6* weapons really worth? 30 pulls 80%

[dawn monolith]

depends on who and how much resources do you have

[drifting bison]

But i don't have her 6s weapon

[dawn monolith]

if you are a bp/monthly buyer, the weapon and the pet comes with that

[drifting bison]

I don't understand the concept. But nice to know

[dawn monolith]

if you are not a bp buyer, then is hard to check, but not impossible

[dawn cloak]

Not unless you already guarantee enough bc for ALL future S rank
No skipping any new S rank unless you wanna brick one of the element

[thorn creek]

If u buy monthly passes, then u can

If not, then stick with 5*

[dawn cloak]

Tldr, powercreep happen

[sand laurel]

there is no concept, its simply a powercreep new A-ranks compete in performance with ancient S-ranks

[gleaming gate]

Ty

[raw swift]

or if no 5* stick to 4*

[deft apex]

tldr is luna is year one, teddy is year 4

[raw swift]

[dawn cloak]

Its a 5 yr old game btw. No way theres no powercreep at all

[dawn monolith]

part of that powercreep is the SSS+, is 30% more dps than it should, so that at the end is something that scales

[drifting bison]

Ah now this is familiar to me. Is this the 1st major powercreep that happens in PGR? Or is it just another day for you guys?

[dawn monolith]

just another day xDDD

[sand laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[subtle zinc]

For 444 phys team, the WZ memories make sense to me,~~ but the onslaught 1 rotation kill set im a little confused who holds patton or is this just not showing stigmata ppc?~~blonde moment

[dawn monolith]

from now on, every char that appears will powercreep something that already exists

[dawn cloak]

Its 5yr old game, do take notes
Currently now its the 3rd gen I heard
Someone like Laurel is 1st gen

[dawn monolith]

from the jp perspective

[sand laurel]

why do you think new character banner have 100% rate up and hard pity?

[deft apex]

every s rank patch is a powercreep patch, there's no way around it

[raw swift]

I mean it is better than the power creep on HSR

[dawn cloak]

Hoyo is ALWAYS a low bar xD
Including Hi3

[dawn monolith]

yep, until stigmata is gen1, stigmata and after her is gen2 until luna oblivion/teddy that is gen3

[raw swift]

so far, this is what I have:

[sand laurel]

huh?

[drifting bison]

I stopped playing global version after Laurel happens (?)... And never really look back because a hub ARPG doesn't really sit right with me...

[sand laurel]

hows stigmata gen1???

[gleaming gate]

Why this thing bad 💀

[sand laurel]

wtf

[gleaming gate]

I can't use them

[dawn monolith]

read the 2nd part xDDD

[sand laurel]

you wrong

[drifting bison]

Oh i have to hit 60 to guarantee every new char?!

[dawn cloak]

Pick Tonitrus iirc, give it to Alisa Echo (she free from dorm)

[sand laurel]

how long do you even play this game Pawa?

[dawn monolith]

-.- you didnt read de part where i say stigmata AND after is gen2?

[drifting bison]

Does the pity carry over? I don't think i can get Oblivion...

[dawn monolith]

yep it does

[visual topaz]

Same banner type

[sand laurel]

it seems you not aware of daren

[visual topaz]

Coating don't

[dawn monolith]

daren is not gen2?

[deft apex]

you said stigmata is gen 1 and then u contradicted yourself and said her and onwards is gen 2

[viral storm]

yes carry over

[dawn cloak]

Carry over
Just try, you may be able to. Because were in 3in1 patch, so almost every reward is tripled
Just dont miss any bc source

[dawn monolith]

i said UNTIL stigmata, i dont remember which one was, but before her, and STIGMATA AND AFTER is gen2

[gleaming gate]

Why

[raw swift]

Daren is Gen 2...

[drifting bison]

The devs ran out of stuff to add in game? But how's the performance of older units? Is it that bad?

[dawn monolith]

thats why im asking, pantsu says i forgot her

[visual topaz]

Gen 2 starts with empy

[dawn monolith]

not really, every next char has very good gameplay ideas, but is simply bcs ppl need more ceiling to beat

[unborn hound]

hey memories should i put in kamui tenebrion other tahn davinci and einstina?

[viral storm]

if you have rosetta or alpha CW, you can pick theirs weapons, it's like the best ones i can recomend from that

[sand laurel]

bro, you so confused

[sleek basin]

wz scores are getting higher
that's current t1 hero

[raw swift]

@dawn monolith

[dawn monolith]

supposedly she got dlt after a time, so wasnt strictly there always

[drifting bison]

Nice. What's with this 3in1 patch? 3 characters you mean? I already got my Bridget SSS+ and got her memory sets completed. I should build Teddy then... But i only have her 4 star weapon

[raw swift]

[dawn cloak]

Were speeding up to catch CN
Like REALLY speeding up

[drifting bison]

I honestly got overwhelmed by the amount of HP bosses have in endgame modes... Like wtf...

[dawn monolith]

i can accept daren, but bcs i thought it was after stigmata, my bad from that

[dawn monolith]

yeh, the amount of dps a whale can do is even higher than that

[sand laurel]

I just find it crazy that someone considers anything prior stigmata gen1, like the node system stigmata has was introduced with daren that was released before her…
this guy on misinfo spree

[dawn cloak]

No problem, Teddy will still perform as dark dps anyway.
Unless shes in Luna Obliv team, then she become proper support/healer

[drifting bison]

Oh so they just make it dmg sponge for the whales to actually play something?

[dawn monolith]

i wasnt here before lamia, so i cant relate 100% accurate dates nor release positions, i only got a relative idea

[bronze ice]

who should i pick for the springsong selector?

[sand laurel]

[dawn monolith]

yeh... im fkd atm bcs of that, the 3 bosses existing in the specific gamemode have so much hp that i cant get the points i should

[raw swift]

it's Miku's student

[summer topaz]

they are dmg sponge if you don’t have new units

[drifting bison]

How do you guys get 6s or 5s weapon in this game apart from wishing?

[visual topaz]

Stricto sensu she got it retroactively I agree, but I admit gen 2 as char who has TLC in their kit

[summer topaz]

It isn’t a thing for whales

[dawn cloak]

He doesnt. He just not that detailed on the knowledge
Anyway you shouldve help answering here if you know more
There was a guy from india blatantly misinfoing and its chaos

Good thing its calmed down now

[sand laurel]

what a bad student then, still no bricking advices

[dawn monolith]

6s cant, only gacha (or maybe some selector tickets), 5s gacha+coop

[drifting bison]

Thank God for me the mission is only "clear this, clear that"

Lol 🤣

[raw swift]

he will evolve hopefully

[dawn cloak]

Also Im a litteral newbie why am I answering the other newbie

[drifting bison]

But 5s is enough and not coping?

[sand laurel]

maybe because the misinfo got too far

[drifting bison]

If you're a noob I'm a toddler

[dawn monolith]

5s at the most chars are enough, some of them like luna oblivion needs the 6* to be playable

[shadow holly]

anything other than 6* is cope

[dawn monolith]

then some of them need the 6* to be comfy, but still can be playable with 5*

[drifting bison]

Holy hell so she's expensive? What if i can't get hers?

[sand laurel]

monthly pass A or cope

[bronze ice]

who should i pick for the springsong selector?

[dawn cloak]

You can pull weapon later btw, when you are swimming in bc
Theres no difference if you pull on debut or not. Its still 80%

Unlike the debut chara and cub (but cub lower priority than weapon)

[dawn monolith]

yep that helps, the monthly gives you a lot of BC, and is very cheap

[bronze ice]

I have CW, the new Luna omniframe, Luna Laurel, and some other ones I cant recall off the top of my head

[dawn monolith]

if not, then you must carefully chose where to invest

[drifting bison]

I mean, hard cope or soft cope? Is it that bad not to have their sign? Because if this gane requires too much investment, i might bail again

[dawn monolith]

you wont ever get a guide that dont recommend the 6*, so get used to ppl assuming you have everyone of them on every char, even A chars

[visual topaz]

That's my own definition of gen 2 btw
Some other players talk about gen 2 attackers meaning HR Balter and CW etc it's their own interpretation of the matter
Same goes for every chars with 25%+ shred at high ranks and CD reduction or Effect/Affix stuffs, + new lilith status
This is fan stuff

[dawn cloak]

#📨・meta-help message
Can refer to that link

[shadow holly]

on most modern chars its hard cope but sure it might just be my opinion
there are casual ppl playing base S chars with 4* weapons and theyre fine because ignorance is bliss

[visual topaz]

Me and my alts

[dawn monolith]

5 😛

[visual topaz]

SS0 HR 4* weap

[drifting bison]

Monthly currency subs? Or battle pass?

Because i bought my fun on 2 accounts of Wuthering Waves

[viral nest]

How much does it cost to hypertune all 12 slots of 1 char? Can i get away by max hypertuning 3 characters? Is there any good guild available which does simulated siege on max difficulty? My guild only does it at lvl 1 difficulty

[dawn monolith]

4 are purple ones, are unusables

[thorn creek]

Monthly is best value

Bp is second best

[dawn monolith]

monthly sub, bp is a lot costier but comes with a lot of sheet too

[sand laurel]

then theres some guy that for some reason is thinking balter is any different from daren in terms of what game changing mechanics were introduced to the game

[raw swift]

me and my abandoned alt accounts

[drifting bison]

Seeing pink in char menu is such a bad feeling, broo

[dawn monolith]

at least the monthly should be able to buy without a hard hole in your pocket

[thorn creek]

But deleting PGR is priceless

[dawn cloak]

Its soft cope
Only hard cope for competitive player, since this channel resident are mostly top rank competitive

Theres also some here who does non sig weapon content

[thorn creek]

[visual topaz]

Daren introduced p2w sub ranks

Changing baselines

[drifting bison]

Lemme go and check how much monthly sub is

[dawn monolith]

i was meaning tdl, not that, but maybe thats another option

[drifting bison]

Thank you 🙏

[visual topaz]

SS0 used to be enough to compete when you watch Endd vid

[dawn monolith]

for me is around 5€ month, so with 20 i have 1/3 of year covered (more or less)

[viral nest]

Is there any active guild which attempts Simulated siege at max difficulty level? How can i join?

[visual topaz]

Now it's barely passable at high invest

[viral nest]

[visual topaz]

Which region

[viral nest]

Asia pacific

[raw swift]

[visual topaz]

@pure scarab poach him

Wait it's 3 am there

[viral nest]

It's 2 am here as well

[visual topaz]

It's 8pm here

[dawn monolith]

20.28 here

[sand laurel]

now people pray that at least ss3 is enough

[dawn monolith]

yeh, the same that urges the 6* weapon

[visual topaz]

Daren is playable at this invest

All above ranks improve her qol

[sand laurel]

ok but how about new stuff coming out in CN rn?

[visual topaz]

I tried S0 no sig to s+

[sand laurel]

thats what I mean

[raw swift]

remember the norm. S+ or nothing

[visual topaz]

Well maybe we could actually recommend pitying 6* once every 2 or 3 patches for f2p

Considering the rewards

[thorn creek]

Still the norm

[sand laurel]

s+ or bricked

[thorn creek]

S+ Wanshi or nothing

[sand laurel]

normal or pleb

[raw swift]

now... Where is ur S+ Lamia?

[dawn monolith]

theres where you must consider what you have and what you can lose if you roll for the wep xDDDD

[sand laurel]

s+ or no rights

[thorn creek]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346677

[raw swift]

[sinful violet]

Should I go for Lunas cub If I do ill have her entire build

[dawn monolith]

no, for pets go for any of the real dps

[visual topaz]

Pyroath patch will help with the Calibration

And I've been tracking rewards so far

[dawn monolith]

still dont know what that can mean, but the next patch after lucia goes into 2 S chars non free xDDD

[visual topaz]

Income increased greatly

[frozen creek]

[raw swift]

[sand laurel]

I wonder how long the wanshi/hany patch gonna be, maybe worth waiting with pulling their sig

[raw swift]

by how much

[deft apex]

41 days

[visual topaz]

I'll be back on laptop

Still outside

[sand laurel]

hopefully not another 90 pull alisa sig incident of mine

[visual topaz]

I'll develop ym thesis

[dawn monolith]

yep, theres a green page already with all the dates inside, and the order of release of each one

[raw swift]

ok

[sand laurel]

green page?

[dawn monolith]

supposedly at some point will get a 100% after a 50 50 lose, or at least thats what i heard

[sand laurel]

can anyone decypher what this guy saying?

[dawn monolith]

gonna search it

[sand laurel]

do I look like a noob?

[drifting bison]

Wait codaship can only topup rainbows. Not passes

[dawn monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/871898753685135390/1336697431156457542/sfr13coiyahe1.webp?ex=67aca8fe&is=67ab577e&hm=0dfe293814985d6a74e0c58e93588008c6a5a462ca4287c3390e7d0e75ae864c&

[raw swift]

speaking of that.. one of my friends lost Qu's weapon 4 times. First he got uncle's sig the rest is Alisa's

[remote pier]

[raw swift]

so many words.. I sleep

[dawn monolith]

after a 90 weapon pull? i cant answer that...

[dawn monolith]

thats the dates... cant say anything else xDDD

[sand laurel]

when game is treating you with the other spectrum of luck

[drifting bison]

IS SHE NEXT PATCH?

[dawn monolith]

sure

in around 10 days or so

[raw swift]

[drifting bison]

Holy...

[dawn monolith]

with wanshi S

[drifting bison]

Can I just skip Luna please...

[sand laurel]

that was just a rhethoric question...

[drifting bison]

She looks gorgeous. Is she dps?

[dawn cloak]

She become physical main dps

[dawn monolith]

DONT YOU DARE TO RHETHORIC ME!!! :3

[sand laurel]

who's even talking to you?

[raw swift]

the funniest thing is.. he lost to Luna's weapon once and got her Sig

[dawn monolith]

[drifting bison]

Oh having Oblivion is super crucial? What if I can't get her rn?

[raw swift]

[dawn monolith]

some bosses from now on will start with a dark purple hp bar, oblivion damage is specialized to kill that, you can kill it with any other char, but will be slower

[dawn cloak]

You still have time, now get to work and dont miss any daily or weekly task for 3x BC
Save that question for later

[drifting bison]

Which monthly pass should i choose? The 28 and 30 ones?

[compact gyro]

I literally just said “fck it” and pulled once on fate.. wtf is my luck

[sand laurel]

just get void A-rank annihilator

[raw swift]

30

[dawn monolith]

30

[dawn cloak]

[drifting bison]

Ahhh... The nihil dmg stuff from tutorial... Hmmm I see

This discourage me...

[dawn cloak]

~~ now this is a good fate banner propaganda ~~

[compact gyro]

I was gonna get him from standard banner what do I get there now

[visual topaz]

ttt

[sand laurel]

is this all you wanted?

[rocky wedge]

hero, can still go higher too

[compact gyro]

It ain’t im just baffled at wtf just happened

[compact gyro]

Epitaph was the last thing I needed to be unbricked

[raw swift]

Feral

[sand laurel]

win happened

[drifting bison]

Hmmm but funding 2-3 account.... This is irresponsible for me 😂

[dawn monolith]

well, is not gamechanging, simply help a little, wont break your account not having her right now, and sometimes they give selectors for free, so you can get her in the future with no problem

[sand laurel]

not having wata is definition of brick though

[compact gyro]

She’s free soon so I really don’t wanna waste my standard banner on that

[raw swift]

Do u have qukra?

[compact gyro]

I’ve got a free guaranteed frame just nothing to pull unless I wanna ss3

Oh yeah is ss3 shukra good or epitaph

[raw swift]

Oh save that for Hanying then

[sand laurel]

I'm getting myself ss3 hany
and sss wanshi

[dawn monolith]

any gacha game you play is meant to take a low quantity of money from you, thats how the gacha system works, and very few games evades that

[compact gyro]

Oh yeah true easy ss3 hangying lmao

[river nymph]

same

[dawn cloak]

I'd say still pull Luna until event ends
You'll get enough for S rank Hanying in her own patch, since the other S rank Wanshi is free from dorm

[dawn monolith]

yeh, the only real problem will come in 3 or 4 patches

[ripe stag]

You are making me rethink
Should I R2 Alisa ?

[raw swift]

oh yea I need help... Who should I triple S... Nanaknight and Ishmael or Nanaknight or Hanying

[dawn monolith]

meanwhile, a S for each patch helps a lot

[ripe stag]

Is that R2 Alisa

[glass bay]

What does alisa cub do

[raw swift]

(i can not decide)

[rocky wedge]

nothing atm, might be useful after her leap tho

she uses her pet again after leap apparently, idk if its rank specific

maybe in hero u could get away not using deer

if selena doesnt need orbs badly

[compact gyro]

Actually got a question now, should I go ahead and ss wata right now or save my shards for hangying, I’ve got 500 just whoever comes first

[rocky wedge]

nice ye thats a good score for that invest

[raw swift]

half it

[compact gyro]

💔

[drifting bison]

True true. I'm just used to WuWa and Path to Nowhere having tons of freebies

[tropic sphinx]

is it possible for f2p to triple s a base s rank character without pulling for dupes

[compact gyro]

Should I actually half it that doesn’t sound stupid actually

[raw swift]

voucher shop

[subtle zinc]

It’s always better to have options than spend all impulsive

[thorn creek]

It’s always better to ||have options than|| spend all impulsive

[orchid moat]

forgot, are RCs shared between mobile and PC? heard somewhere that they aren't, but wanted to be sure

[tropic sphinx]

60 is the limit no? or it refreshes

[thorn creek]

They’re not

[lament yoke]

To what rank is capriicio free? No vouchers or skulls

[thorn creek]

Brought in phone HAS to be used in phone

[raw swift]

refreshes every month for discount

[orchid moat]

bummer

thanks for the help!

[thorn creek]

Am certified whel trust

[raw swift]

[thorn creek]

Refreshes every month. Might be 40 instead when next patch starts but we’ll see

[lament yoke]

SSS+ teddy vs SS selena
No sig on both

[thorn creek]

Since it’s gonna be 2 patches in one instead of 3

[tropic sphinx]

ah got it

[thorn creek]

Teddy

[frozen creek]

theyre not shared between different operating systems so ios android windows etc will have separate rc counts

[thorn creek]

Selena no right

[lament yoke]

And at what point does selena become better than teddy?

[thorn creek]

SSS and signature wep with at least r1

[vague nebula]

[thorn creek]

Truly whel girl

[lament yoke]

A teddy with sig can be better?

[raw swift]

which character should I triple S besides Nanaknight, ish or Hanying

[thorn creek]

Not worth sig

[subtle zinc]

I suppose if you need to do clash ppc or wz for rewards trueeee and think one rank will enable but …. Saving is good 1 week from new char unless it’s a Luna pull decision

[vague nebula]

next frame is ss3 gated i heard but not as diabolical as karen tho

[raw swift]

misinfo. It's triple S or be bricked

[vague nebula]

nah S+ needed

[raw swift]

Hanying

[raw swift]

[floral plover]

R2 or only one poop rot without dmg
Also SS cub

[vague nebula]

[carmine reef]

💩

[lament yoke]

Raging waves for lamia wz, right? Or it doesn't matter

[orchid moat]

sort of related, but are there any price differences between PC and mobile that anyone noticed? heard purchases from Play Store apparently attach some kind of extra fee

[opaque ridge]

Wuthering waves better

[lament yoke]

Genshin is better

You should play it too, legend wz competition might decrease

[raw swift]

Nah y'all are sleeping on cocomelon on the Nintendo switch

[floral plover]

If it is what I think it is
Play store gives a few coins worth of money when you buy in-game stuff
But that's more related to play store than Pgr, which has the same rewards

[raw swift]

now that is goated

[visual topaz]

Reveries with a Whale Patch 34d patch
BC : 8700 (highest F2P count)
Trade Voucher 4K (2K event gamemodes, 2K F2P BP)

Her Last Bow 35 Days
BC : 8920 BC
TV : 7500

Aeon Reforged 34d
BC : 8110
Yellow ticket (they started adding event ticket starting from The Ark Beyond Patch after Mech spending event) : 5020
Trade Voucher 5860 and that's excluding every wz rotations
+2500 Yellow from sync patch announcement which was unexpected
We lost 1 norman rotation

Polaris Bond 37 days patch
BC 12950
Event 7734 (NY included)
TV 8280 (WZ not included)

A patch Trade voucher income has most likely more than doubled, and recent patches so far in terms of pulling currencies BC+ yellow also increased compared to the flat 7.5-8k from roland patch
and that's not accounting sync patch ones so far due to the lack of hindsight.

My previous statement above was the following : we might actually recommend F2P to pity 6 target weapon banner*, pitying doesn't necessarily get the intended 6* weapon (winning 80%) as of the 20% lose chance.

However with Hyperploom patch, it's likely that sigs are guaranteed for F2P within 15k BC (worst case scenario assuming double pity and calibration after offrate).
And considering the fact that the income rn is more in the likes of 10k (still an underestimate) than 7.5k every patches so 1 S rank omniframe every 2 patches. it means that each 2 patch a F2P is likely to have a spare 5k BC and so on.

Ofc there are other options as well including pulling for important SS3, important Cubs, (skin gacha?) so it will still be case by case analysis.

TL;DR : F2P pulling 6* weapons (not targeted sigs) even excluding 1x reward BC might be more plausible than before

[floral plover]

[raw swift]

[carmine reef]

HUH

[visual topaz]

explaining why F2P can pull sigs

that assumes good budgeting/planning