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just cuz pgr reso "substats" are RNG
PGR gears are RNG ?
and he says this is based off genshin btw
resonance??
who's that
It's not even rng if you play the game properly
that pgr reso rng system is based OFF genshin substats
LOL?
just search the video
PGR'S GEAR SYSTEM IS BASED OF GENSHIN'S?!
Just leave that video
Pseychie is the yt channel
also @dapper skiff
r u proud of me yet
eos should be for all gachas
backseat my boss fight? 
aren't u way over leveled for boss now
surely playable with tll now

teach me dazzalao 
Dawg actually called PGR's equipment system is influenced by Genshin's
Like how
I see 0 resemblance
As a Genshin player

PGR has rng on memory resonances. ok
But the resonances don't even matter unless you are like some competitive based player
nice clickbait
how did u know i play genshin
Teach wat
if you want the coke bottles for harmony and you havent done those before then yes you should
We need a pgr yt CC tier list

yeah i havent done them, the problem is i already strugge with the normal one on stage 14
Overflow ones aren't harder
They're just the ones that r removed from the normal rotation
So u just do em for first time clear
then you need to wait til you have better units or just git gud
Rexlent >>>>>
Br*ku on 2nd

fury S
S tier - Cha0tik
yeah its probably a skill issue thing 😅
spider2b s++++++++++
Connor 
but thank you guys
wtf is that emote
holyfuckingshit why do they have vassago in fire wz
wata's ult keeps missing when it spawns
ss2 wanshi or ayla kaleido which one is better?
context? is this for trade voucher?
no for warzone or ppc
do you have kaleido sig?
im talking about a rank wanshi
nope
no SSS Wanshi so Kaleido is just better overall

kaleido since no sss hypnos
Ss2?
no, base b-rank
he's new
not sure if he's still trying for sss 21
O
Good enough 
where is the setting to hide my member collection on profile
which triple s a ranks do should i go for?
sorry im not really sure myself
Why u wanna hide member collection
21 dark tank is a good start
i wana unhide it and idk what i did to hide it
yupp got her sss dont need s+ right?
yeah i cant find the setting...
no a-ranks need s+

ohh nvm found it its under profile. not settings
In details 
boos fight 8
Idk I just beat it 

should i go main dps or main support on empyrea?
Support
support
Who should i choose for my member target?
do u have hyperreal
do you have watanabe epitaph?
could go sub DPS if she's at least SS + sig
otherwise support build and just have fun with solo wata
No I just started the game 1 hour ago
then get him
Aight bet
12/13/19 sounds right
What about shukra
also viable choice
I like dps more
Is this with 6class dv garn?
actually could try to 12 chaos
attacker =/= main dps btw
12/13/19
uhh is the monthly pass on mail done? i havent received anything today
chaos shouldn't need 6class garn with feral harmo I think
Oh shi
but idk
If u don't got it then it's over
I didn't know that lmao

next patch, we'll have an s-rank physical tank that is main dps over bianca stigmata (s-rank phy attacker)
gunsmoke frontline started
and nanami startrail lightning tank main dps over crimson weave
Ohhh so next patch there is a tank so I should go for skukra
But I seen some gameplay on her
you can go either shukra or epitaph

Which is easier to play with

my dush is not finished
nah actually who is more stronger
Different element and different role
both are strong for their respective element
Can't really be compared
im 100 xp away from level 60
I don't know who to choose
use some access keys to get exp frfr
then you can choose who you like more between the two

p sure he can
could try to ask some bili stalker to look for Wanshi PPC clears
go mald wz
Just did
mald it again
I'm at #1
legend #1?
but I'm quite confident that if properly invested he would be better than SS Shukra
at least on the tankier kills cuz his windup is too slow for squishy ones
wanshi can clear PPC?

🗿
ofc for u it's qu onetap

sit on chair, fart, done
considering it's still 1.5 weeks til new patch u could try
or could just prefarm Patton pieces for hanying
more efficient to build 4patton base
Which A star should i choose btw😅
Why
Oh ye cuz she doesn't change set
you can get the a-rank tanks for each element (atleast get 1 copy)
sorry it was lagging
is it better this way?

is dlt on wanshi worth it or r1 more than enough?
can drop 4sig set for some PPC setups and run 4patton2darwin2sig or maybe Cottie instead of 2p sig
No on the member target so who goes well with epitaph

I've seen runs where he does like 3 ults tho idk how that works
you can drop sig but not patton? crazy
her sig ain't doing much for her damage
THIS GAME NEEDS TO FIX THEIR BOSSES THEY WASTE SO MUCH TIME
it's just buff for the green fart orb which I actually don't know how much damage it does
Some money issue there
and it enables off field shred
IVE HAD TO parry for 5 seconds straight
just do more damage
Just use 500 batteries
needed them on others
Just pay 3x

I might do that then
if I'm going to switch her sig for ppc it would hurt to ht other set
get bridget from the event
how?
it's 1000%, her mem set +100% = 2000
should i buy these or just save the currency?
buy her
okay
sounds ass on paper
the currency can be farmed very quickly
Ur team just don't have enough investment
Or ur rotations and timings r wrong
kk
ig the only issue is the ppc set for fast kills which is apparently 4sig2dw2cot

pins
bruh
either way you are fcked


whats eos
end of service
meme last month
theyre all ss with sigs and r1 and alisa is harmo
@zenith thorn ?
balter is ss3 too
who's up ending their service
How many sets does she have
🗿
global cooking
Definitely enough investment then, how much battery u put
not that many actually
I would go for patton base in this case
onslaught is more important
I can slack exppc
wym that should need no batteries

I have poverty invest in phy
200, changed to 350 and i can almsot kill now
🗿
whats 2.5
My iq

I kept getting gated by bear in wave 14
don't
hope that helps
Void wz?
Also I needed some help to improve my void rot 
Swap in < Luna 2 rot < Wata 1 rot < Luna 3 rot < Wata 2 rot < Luna 3 rot < Wata 2 rot and so on is this good for void wz 
scuff physical
start with wata
i mean
swap to wata first
then luna
My physical is like 800k
SS balter no sig
S Alisa sig
S Rosetta sig

Well but like what abt the thicc void shield?
it's wave 1 and 3
they are as soft as jelly
Also I should use DLT for wata here right?
unless your wata can't break them
Or diode torch?
..yes 
no dlt no 2 rot shakes
good
Let me see if I can break void shield with my wata
4 alpho and 4 shakes shpuld do it right 
Also should I start with 1 rot or 2 for wata? 
early waves yeah but gl past like wave 9
2 rot
the rot is
amp wata luna - wata amp Luna
I can reach like
1 st one is only for start
Wave 16 with this
2nd is the continuous rot
What do I do with my amp 
i want to update my liv to support what memory?
you spam for 6pings for lingya duh
Ah cub
4dv2ein
if harmo
add 2guin
okay
dv bottom?
i hate how if I press too hard i immediately mess up luna's rotation -_-
1235 dv
46 eins
doesn't matter
yes
THUS BOSS IS SO BAD
I HATE WHOEVER PUT IT IN HE WASTES SO MUCH TIME PARRYING ME
SHT GAME
damn, having r0 luna is really slowing me down
Im not even dying bruh wt skill issue
im ahead the clock until the last 30 hp bars then he does sm bllsht and i fall behind the clock
Technically u can't die in pgr unless u playing clash reflection with a bad team 
Bad team aka lvl 50 constructs
What boss are u fighting
Is it hetero mother
TRAILBLZR
that's a git gud boss
the mother is pss easy

Clash reflection? 
Did cr refresh today?
it should be tomorrow
EX6
shtman mining porp
worst gamemode
lmao it's supposed to be easy now
bru
done with ss r1 balter no sig cub
ss rigor r1 no sig cub
ss alisa r0 no sig cub
also balter tends to parry TB many times
have you tried
just stop being bad bro
crit better
Does being a guide make a difference?
do you even understand why I posted the pic?
HOOWW BRUH
THIS MOSQUITO WASTES SO MUCH OF MY TIME
if you can't parry with balter you have no hope of beating tb without her lmao
fym cant parry
parry is all shes doing,
is there a special parry that gimps this boss from flying around for 30 seconds
how much def shred does solacetune do?
her sword dance is multihit
IM NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE PARRY BRUH
I CAN PARRY JUST FINE, ITS THE 60 PARRIES THAT LEAD TO 0DMG IN 10 WHOLE SECONDS
with SS and sig and 4p sig set 80% def shred + 10% phys shred equal to SSS+ ros
Is that abysal mine 
yea
I can understand why he can't clear abysal now 
her def also stack with cath and voltaire right?
ig volt can be ignored
My f2p team can't do it too I just leave it at cloud island
well yes ofc
my invest is just ss with sig on everyone
So she just leaves them naked without even a shred of defense 
r1 on balter and rigor
Is this the right set? Should I switch it?
Isn't her sig set kinda ass
should be 4dv2guin
she's purely on support duties ever since qu came out
more like pointless if with shukra
222 healer set she needs for ppc and 4 dv and 2 guin for wz
Hi does DV 4set's 2s dmg bonus apply to the entirety of timelag moves?
Alright thanks!
FINALLY DONE
25 seconds left
yes, since the memory rework added a duration time to the 4p effect, it's now timestoppable
Used for soloing bosses with qu and killing them under 1 or more rots 
Trslao should I get wanshi sig 
guess i'll still be keeping r1 rigor 
So when running DV on luna team, i pop both QTEs right becore the final hold basic attack & ult in main sequence?
And Lucid Dreamer is incoming as well.
Can I ask here for lineups?
or i can cook when it comes
just in case 2/2/2 PPC set assumes 4dv being swapped to the tank
not like it matters much except when you want to run 4guin on Kaleido which needs double qte trick
Still Alisa will be holding either 222 or 4 dv 2 guin 
Okay
?
Alisa never steps foot in the battlefield even after wanshi arrives so her sig set is useless

I just joined today and I need a bit of help regarding who to pull on the newbie banner; those are what I have at the moment
Oh I mistakenly landed in pgr gen chat and started wondering why was chat weird
U use hold ult and not the tap ult?
for war zone? it depends on wave thresholds
often it's a good idea to double qte
you Wata QTE first, then after a delay you do amp qte and then Wata QTE again on a new wave to keep shred application consistent. Wata airstrike shred can miss sometimes
for PPC yeah you can dv on the hold ATK unless you're skipping it and doing fast ult2 setup
I want to go for Qu: Shukra and take Kaleido but I got Luna early
Tap ult is main sequence isnt it?
selector with bunny girl silhouette - empyrea
standard banner - epitaph
Take epitaph (the only right option)
Hold ult is the one which instantly gives u 300 points for hold attack
Tap ult makes u do 2x3 pings for the bottom bar to be full for the hold attack
Alrighty, thank you so much!
Ayla Kaleido is free from the dorm shop so u can get her later anyway
Maybe I read wrong 
together with Alisa echo and new ice tank Wanshi a tad later
Yeah i know but isnt it main sequence? I swear finality was the hold ult's name
Wanshi will be in dorm?
yes finality is hold ult
Yeye
Man I just remember them as stacks 
Yeah then whats the problem i said main sequence just now lol
Like 2x3 pings for the tap ult variation
And and hold ult instantly gives u 300 points
I remember them as this 
Yeye I read wrong
how can i unlock icons of my characters, i have so many but im still stuck with the default 3
How
Nah its faster if the enemy has very little health
cuz it eats all ur orbs
need to get your bp up
and achieve ultima
it has some very niche uses but it's not good in 95% cases
I treat it as a finisher since its faster
is that the only way?
yes
if you mean icons for your profile, you can get characters' ultima awaken icons after ultima awakening them
'
Trslao should I get wanshi sig I got like 29k bc
12.5k gone for hanying
7.5k for her sig

tyy
Anyone have the onslaught buffs thing?
yeah it's not a bad idea to use it to finish a wz run
although not like it does any significant damage under SSS
12.5k? Isnt it 15k for 60 drawa
Also is it random or it depends on the boss
Hi, whats the best S-rank to get from here. I currently have Qu: Shukra, Tenebrion and Laurel as my S-ranks
Already did a 10 pull cuz I got luna early on 22nd pull
Empyrea
empyrea
if u got 29k now honestly u could get sig cub for both
surely no offrates 
I gotta save for future sigs too 
Ohhh, that's good to know
preciate it
Did you choose qu from member target?
ty
ye, was that a bad idea?
better to have picked epitaph
just get lucky

damn
Epitaph was the best option, anyway, you will have to struggle for some time
guys surely Pyroath solo is playable
i saw a video of Qu and was like thats firee
but yea it's just pick ur poison anyway
This is also the first time PGR had an annihilator, right?
unfortunate
either ur stuck with Wanshi solo for ice or ur stuck with Pyroath solo
Most Anti solo unit 
Because of that your acc is gonna be a bit unbalanced until you get epitaph now, most probably when the member target resets in Ishmael patch
Which gooner would have skipped legs 
Legs and wanshi always together 
by that patch wouldnt there be someone even better?
nope
oh damn
Epitaph works in 2 teams until idk
And he clearly won't be replaced any soon
imma jus ask before i make any decision on who to pull for from now on cuz idk anything lol
Thia animation bugged hidden chapter 3 when I used her
Until ishmael arrives
Don't skip any new character and don't pull on fate, try to get everyone's sig and cub
One day ill do all story and get flooded by bc 
even luna oblivion?
Don't skip her wtf
oh lmao
imma work on that then
but how do i get the tickets for weapon banner?
Her animation was starting and suddenly roland jumps in, I'm taken to heaven and hell (cus it's all darkness and light combined, no backgrounds, just pure darkness at one time and pure lightness)
If u skip luna u might as well deactivate ur account until ishmael arrives 
just a word of advice, any s rank that isn't free on the debut banner must be pulled
lmao
pull everything that is yellow when they arrive
damn this is very different from other gachas
it is
wait so how do i get weapon banner tickets?
and if you want to continue playing pgr and have an enjoyable experience it's best to follow the meta
One time I bugged with watanabe and he was just standing in a corner while his animation was playing

cuz i only have 250 rn
bc
It's the worst!!!
you play twice a week for your weeklies
thats the only way?
yes unless you want to spend money or wait 3 patches for 500 tickets
yes but very educated guesses
so jus to make sure i should only use bc on weapon banner and event banner right?
I was thinking I'll get pyroath in March but I just remembered feb got 28 days 
which one should i prioritize on S rank selector? ayla or scire?
https://huaxu.app/ap/players/11683354/characters/1091003
https://huaxu.app/ap/players/11683354/characters/1091003
ayla shard on ppc is untouched, my current voucher is 62k
Ayla: Kaleido of ◇Extrimist from the Asia-Pacific server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
I know basic cards are given a lot
event banner first
weapon banner comes later
Scire or Empy is the only choices on the selector
Wouldn't want to have a weapon without a character!
cool thx
Ayla is free and never worth spending a full selector on
How hard it is to lose a 80/20
honestly not that hard lmao
Surely I won't lose it for the 5th time while going for balter sig 
the more important question is if you have enough for the next character
Nanaknight the most impactful meta character since Watanabe fr
because if you don't, getting the weapon in exchange for the next debut character will do more damage to your account long term
I luccsacked Alisa sig in one pull and then I never got balter sig even after 5 tries 
It's a 4% chance to lose your second consecutive 80/20
Very rare
I tried to pull Hyperreal Sig, lost 3 times in a row
I lost 5 times 
A 0.8% chance
i've also offrated too many times on balter sig, and offrated on her cub too
I also got a double Sig pull once, but they're both offrates
VERY INTERESTING
dat ho is sigless and cubless
Well so many resos for free 
You hit the 0.0064% chance 
Got like 3 pulao sig chilling in my inventory
I still remember it like it's yesterday, was trying to pull Glory Sig then I got Double Rozen Sig in the same 10 pull
see at least you are saved from the million harmo build changes
.....
Idk if I should be happy for sad for being that unlucky 
are the story modes in the event permanent?
Since I can reso like 5 sigs without using mats
Roger that, I will take this advice
well i got luna but no more bc 😦
Good
how bad is she without her weapon?
still pretty good
She's still good
Is there an S rank selector available rn
lol
At least she still deals nihil dmg
still pretty good, you just gotta make sure your basic atk weaving is top notch
Sig is a rlly big upgrade which turns her into an S char 
wat is nihil dmg
- you gotta make sure you let your charge attacks hit for orb eco
Those who don't have Luna is hitting concrete wall in nihil warzone rn
You will eventually get the things you want, just necessary is to get the debut characters as they're there for limited time
Her element
Her dmg
0 dmg
and dont press the ult button too hard
One sec
Yep Finality Form is almost always useless
Try to read this
?
so im assumimng some enemies r immune to all other elements?
sprinsong yes
-# dang those remarks are so witty, I'm loving this server immediately
How do i get it and what can i obtain from it
No she has a dedicated place to play
U should see what happens when a new player asks for advice 
Pov: me
Well nearly
all S Ranks up to Kaleido (see unit timeline for details)
you do sets of missions
top left below profile
up to kaleido
As a new player, count me in!!!
thats literally me rn lmao
They take 130% more dmg from nihil element
U might not be so bricked 
idk wats going on
Is it achieveable as a newbie
ahhh ok cool
And they only take 0.3x dmg from your character if it's not nihil dmg
yes

Everyone can do it
they're very simple to do
Wheres unit timeline
Grayravens.com has them, the character list is in order there
Can i still do it with a lvl 30 lee entropy
Roland when we getting Liv tracksuit skin 
the missions don't involve hard content dw
Isnt that future units? What abt past
Also iirc you get trial units for combat-type events, so you can do them regardless
Alpha so lucky bru 
So farm out the missions in the green background event for some good early units
Hello 👋 I got very into PGR around the time before Wuwa came out and played it nonstop for a bit until the hanying zitherwoe patch and have stopped playing it until now, what are some of the things I should focus on doing first after coming back to this game again?
wtf ehat domain does
I dunno what you're referring to 😭 but as long as you do all events you should get the selector fast enough
Do all event, do your dailies and weeklies
What is the hardest mission in the event
there are also WZ and PPC completion requirements so make sure you do those too
That's about it
Finally phantom cage is open. I can now speedrun this selector
Also my fav ishmael
Spider’s wanshi guide is about to cook…again
cook or cooked
Did he cook on hanying guide 
There's like a billion different events I see right now which ones are important?
Bouta spread ms. info once again
uhhh all of them
Damn alright
Just do them one by one
We're also in integrated version, means rewards are multiplied
Hi whats the best bundles to cash on? Can 299 RC get me SSS luna oblivion?
They all give you a bunch of free resources
Integrated?
Pet is a 50% dmg buff to his whole kit good to have but nothing too crazy and the passive isnt very useful
Ideally you should do them all
It's not that bad ig, the people who annoy me most in pgr community are cw simps
wtf
the reason why people say this game is F2P friendly is because they do all the stuff that gives BC, which always guarantees them the Debut S Rank
Combining several patches into one big patch for less duration total, so global finally able to slowly catch up with CN
We're doing dat rn

Ohhhh wow
Vergil's DAUGHTER

I hate
I like cw but
Jetavie beta when
well technically not all of them, unless you're rushing you don't really need to do the story
Cw fans are too much
Including PPC
To rephrase, how many RC, spent on which bundles, will get me enough shards to push SS0 oblivion to SSS
Thats the live recording unless it changes during editing but i doubt it 
Brainrot
just save for Debut Banners and sometimes Sigs if you can pull them
Alright I'll get to doing the events then. Thanks everyone
oh mah god
Daily login stuff isnt a problem
With some careful planning you definitely go for sigs
So it's random
3x ult dmg is nothing to crazy :clueless:
for frugal peeps going to next patch, Wanshi is completely functional with a 5* weapon
Yay
so if y'all have to skip one Sig, choose him
same with hanying?
she needs DLT 
Should I Build XXI
balls
Qu pet > wanshi’s pet
Wanshis weapon > wansis pet
QU PET HIGHER THAN WANSHI???
I am gonna pass out
Apparently I should skip hanying rn and get her through standard selector later to make sure I can get everybody's cubs and sigs down the line
Did we win?
she's your best budget option for Dark Tank so yeah, but you don't really have to fully build her, just upgrade her class skill
Or cooked

do try to get SSS for XXI if you can't get Scire earlier on tho
got it, thanks

299 isn't enough bro
you need 600+
best bundles you can buy rn is always the monthly pass
more so with the sync 
go buy those 3x mpa
just blue red red
or sorry 6x mpa 
does ss0 still use 4charlotte 2leuwenhoek or is it different now?
Catherine
balter btw
For next patch
Cuz hanying debut
if you plan on playing from 6 months
4 Charlotte 2 Cath 2 Signa
General damage comparison wise, who got higher damage? SS0 Epitaph or SS3 Wanshi
Considering both sig + cub
Wtf 600 RC just for enough shards to go from SS0 to SSS?
4 Charlotte 2 Catherine balter
4 changwuzi 2 Patton/4 Patton hanying
huh?
"4 Changwuzi 2/4 Cottie if SS0 or lower"
around there

10% more shred from ss3 wanshi already make it obvious
Man i see why people call them whales now 
balter not harmo?
Anyone wanna be my military instructor? The guide thing SEA server btw
Ss3 wata vs ss0 wata in warzone with Sam exact invest already has 300k score gap in hero
i can
Now ss3 wanshi vs ss0 wata
that's the assumption since Hanying is close, since at this point her harmo is pretty low value now
How does this work
If u have harmo, her harmo set can be signa for more dmg
/14889071/
Okay just send the id I'll add
Thank you
I see ok
lemme log first
Hacking ur acc rq
if you plan on playing for 6 months
I thought u could only buy 2 at a time

eh? is the mpa tripled?
Sorry I had found one, thanks tho
the integration plan changes stuff, there is a new MPA pack that lets you buy 3 times in the top up shop
sync plan
you buy mpa normally
then buy another 3 mpa from the packs section
@river nymph is 9s chaos lilith possible?
It only shows 2 for me
2x mpa and 2x in the packs
Is that the play I should go for or should I get Hanying on debut then get her to ss3 through standard selector later?
question for Full SSS Void users, which sequence of Oblivion Ult rots did y'all do
I did 32332 for Legend Void, is there a better way to do this?
oh its 2 now
Do i need to be max level to see 3
d1 it was 3x 
do you still have the first standard choice thing or are you talking about post ish
What memory for teddy's harmony?
Yep still have the first standard choice
how this worked: buy regular mpA from regular shop on the day 1 of the patch
buy the other 2 mpA pack from bundle shop
this totals at 3
since mpA are 30 days and the patch is 42 days you can buy again. but that should be 4th mpA. can't buy those mpA bundles again tho 
personally i think you should pull her and then get ss3 from standard
If I have a monthly pass then I don't log in for like a few days, will the reward get sent into my mail?
using standard for an ss0 just feels like a waste, and the ss3 is more valuable than a cub
no
thats how the game retains their playerbase
I just noticed something earlier
the 2 newbies had matching pfps
wtf theres a set for this now
They do
is Blue Orb because of that special orb she gets?
I was thinking about that too but like apparently every other mf later on kinda need their cub
1-shot ppc strat?
cub easier to get than a post-patch ss3
wtf is this 
why blue orbs?
Which means
blue orb isn't used till sss iirc?
I REALLY should finish all the story content
like deals less dmg at ss-ss3?

As someone who haven't unlocked the cub (still lvl 51 rn), was having sig better than having the cub?
Yes, for you definitely yes but better ask the dalaos
most of the time yes, cuz most sigs lock rotation QoLs behind the Sigs (having this means the Sig is needed most of the time)
if the blue orb kills then yeah probably better than atk
Sig is always better than cubs because some sigs hide some mechanics behind them and sometimes cubs give more dmg 
thats patton though so its pre-dodge holding
Like lamia cub gives 40% more ult dmg 
This is like my thesis, reading is living
Epitaph or empyrea sig weapon has higher prio?
that's funny
I remember seeing setsu list blue orb reso for glaciation PPC set but this one has Patton
some other use case?
atp Epitaph
U would love reading chapter 17 
what is this
you lose an entire Ult rotation just by not having Epitaph Sig iirc
(you also can't use Shakes Build)
Avg shakes malder 
me
Serious question (sorry im like a week in) why would u need to do more than 1 rotation on epitaph
shakes wata deals beeg dmg for long fights 
blue hits really hard so if u dont need to use ult2 then blue orb reso is viable
Ss0 r1 gaming with shakes and ik pyroath is abt to kill me with her rot 
oh 
I saw pyroath solo once and it made me get brain dmg 
because of swap downtime
Epitaph's entire Ult rotation is roughly 4-5 seconds, and if you're only using 2 DPS units in the team (which is the optimal comp rn) you have 10 seconds of downtime between Epitaph and the 2nd DPS unit
his rotations are very quick and swapping off too quickly is just killing ur damage
especially considering how far he surpasses the other current members of the fire team, and for void and future fire it's also a case of the support amp running full support memories so they literally can't do any damage on field
so the subDPS role lies fully on wata
Im running oblivion and empyrea with him but empyrea is S and no sig since im literally less than 2 weeks into the game
And i havent gotten kaleido yet
Empyrea needs her SS for her 20% shred not the sig
liv's build after leap?
Yes i am aware
Buff*******
^
I MEAN BUFF PLS DONT DEMOTE ME
still the same
there is a technique for Epitaph that solves orb issues for Sigless, but I dunno the exact details unfortunately
which is?
Phew
Unlimited basics works 
Matrix? Cos the slash parries attacks and enters matrix right
4dv2ein2guin with harmo in a full team
if sub DPS can use 4eliz4shake or 4eliz2cot2eins
depending on whether it's PPC or wz
She needs sss
you can probably still do 2 Ult rotations if you do this, but it's a pretty big decrease in speed
My good sir I'm planning to SSS wanshi before her 
his Riposte is already included in his normal rotations
Same but SS3
damn these whales
i have her on 4 eliz and 2 darwin
Yeah then idk lol i mainly rely on entering matrix to get the third charge so i only get one rotation before swapping to empy and stacking prayer
Idk if I should go for SS3 or SSS for him and save for daemonnisa later
change that
if that is the in-game recommendation that is another case of a horrible fkin recommendation
How big of a change is lilith SSS
And im level 79 so I don't have much to work with here either lol
it is lmao
Im planning on getting hanying , should I get her SS or her weap first?
also what rank is your Empy + do u have her weapon @raw swift
Lilith was voucherable right or am I tweaking 
S rank and weapon yes
ss hanying is through ppc though
U use skulls for SS.... 
I think the rotation strat goes like this for you
Do your 1st rotation normally, but when you enter 2nd rotation, get enough 3 Pings for 2 Blaze Orbs via Basic Attacks, then wait for your matrix for the 3rd Blaze Orb
not enough resources to harmonize tho
oh no SS
I'd say you shouldn't have done her leap yet
she can't work properly on field without SS
Damn i leaped her mann
just put her on 4dv2eins and run Wata solo for now ig
Oh wait her shard can be bought in ppc?
dont have wata ;-;
Wait empy touches field on fire wz/fire ppc? 
Yes

all s-ranks are
S ranks in general
I have her SS with sig and run 4 dv 2 guin 
lmfao
wz yes ofc
PPC only if dual DPS with wata
Ohhh that save me some pulls then. Ig i'll try weap if her shard is farmable
I got empy SS
And wata SS r1 for fire team cuz hyperbrick 
if i make this 4/4 set for glacio selena, she'll hold 4 sets
this is the future of pgr
S5 oblivion, sig weapon
S0 Epitaph
S0 Empyrea (starter)
Currently I start by switching into 1 rotation of oblivion to clear equilibrium field shield, then 1 rotation of epitaph, then 1 rotation of empyrea stacking up prayer
Then i repeat once oblivion switch CD ends, but this 2nd rotation empyrea uses chaos prayer once
This repeats the entire battle with empy using ult whenever available on her rotation
Any suggested improvements?
So this is why they made universal currency for event farming stages 
actually lost for words
so u have hyperbrick?
anyway yeah u definitely have time to field Empy in WZ
in PPC it would depend on the clear
No I don't got hyperbrick

I skipped cuz I joined on the last date of his banner 
sorry what does this mean
K done
universal currency?
in that case idk if running solo Wata vs duo swapping with Empy is better
From next patch ur event farming stage currency can be used in next patches too
Event farm stage will be permanent next patch
Hi @shadow holly any advice?
so you don't have to strategically save your serum for next patches lmao
oh dang
🐋
nah only do that next patch
"from next patch"
It applies from hanying patch not rn
ah gotcha
btw there's also memo reso QoL next patch I think
you can now directly use your event currency for reso rolling
I got like 999,99 cog boxes and material boxes 
That seems really convenient
can sm1 tell me why liv is like the most preferred ampli for luna obliv rather than kaleido? 
she isn't, Kaleido is the best Amp for Void
Wdym it's actually the opposite
Spider 2b brain rot 

Feral over Liv?
oh then why do i see ppl use liv on her then
invest diff in Amps
generally it's preferred to swap in epitaph first to set up off field shred for oblivion rotation
but also void wz is very variable and you will have to adjust your rotations to land Luna on shielded waves
but at least the ones at the beginning Wata can clear fine so dw about those, you can switch him in first
or they dunno how Luna's class actually works lmao
Maybe because they have SS3 cow and SS soleater 
and they still give u up to 3 sets of loadout saving option? 
wuthering is getting 5 sets per character i heard
for Void?
ah i see, well anyways since i have not invested in both amps, ill just use kaleido since theyre at the same bp anyways 
wiki claims empyrea/feral should be prioritised in PPC
Yeah
Just curious
Which wiki 
Bp doesn't matter 
s sigless cow would be better than ss Empy tho unless latter is harmod


technically it's right, if ur other amps aren't higher invest lol
I think Feral is a bit better than Empyrea for Void yeah, Feral procs Eins faster + shorter QTE duration
i mean you get the point, theyre just about the same for me rn so i guess kaleido it is thanks
Alright thanks 
but Empy and feral do provide the advantage of proccing 4guin in a single que
this says SSS for all
wdym S sigless cow is better than SS empy
I think that prolly assumes Epitaph uses 4 Shakes 2 Eins there, which means Empyrea/Feral can use 4 Guin
could anyone guide me through this, thanks
ic
s sigless cow has 10/10 amp class and 10 buff on qte
same as SS Empy
and she has better QTE for eins proc
OH WAIT AYLA QTE IS THE FASTEST
I can't tell if I want time to pass faster for new patch or slower cuz college semester 
she's also the best Eins proccer out of all Amps
so yeah Kaleido clears if same invest on all Amps
yeah at equal high invest Empy and feral would be straight better due to better 4guin proc
that's it
that's the whole difference

Paking whel
🤝
it's not about being the fastest even, just having the nicest aoe on her qte

38k + 10k
Empy has a pretty large aoe but with a huge ass delay
Im using S0 empy rn only because I dont have kaleido yet (clearly shouldve bought kaleido before echo from dorm lol)
nah I think you did the right move actually, Hanying needs Echo in her team
it's wtv I don't think 10% buff difference would make or break anything at the point you're at
Probably another few days before i get the last 14 shards though, my dorm commission system level only has 4 slots & 8 commissions per day
lmao 1 BC/ticket to 46k
- Wanshi can Solo without DLT
Nah ill have both before hanyings patch
so by the hanying patch i should have about 53-54k
oh damn then
🐳
Me out here having 30k bc (including tickets) 
did you skip anyone?
Yeah i do the dorm commissions alot havent missed a single one so i already have echo and only lacking 14 kaleido shards
ohhh nice
well i need to get qu cos i quit for a short period of time
ah I see
Hes a whale or a very old player 
i missed her banner
otherwise no i didn't skip
if you knew who i am you would know i don't skip units 
if you can wait for Pianissimo Selector you can cope with Solo Wanshi for a while
nah wishing is next patch
grahh i want sss luna but i lack the insane amount of "disposable income" required
or i could try solo wanshi
I do know you but I didn't know that's a significant trait of yours 
but like i'll see if it's worth at ss3
i mean some people know that I roast people for skipping meta
or used to a lot
selena seriously has 4 sets now
i mean i still do tho
I was told trueslash isnt really worth it and to just pull for S0 solacetune next patch
ss3 hanying if you have excess bc only
I became a whale this patch lmao, ironic since this integration plan discourages people from spending 
I mean i bought MPA does that count
I dont have that much BC stored yet though cos i started less than 2 weeks ago
me have sss wata without skipping anyone if that says anything
I just got my first 2 limited characters to SSS in this very patch (Epitaph and Oblivion)
discourage? u mean encourage?
Should I actually delete pgr (my phone is slow and I'm broke af)
if monthly x2/x3 was enabled all year long
64 gigs of storage in this day and age is definitely something
I want SSS oblivion but someone said ill probably need 600 RC or more for enough shards to go from SS0 to SSS and uh thats just way too much money for me to do it
still requires you to have 30k specifically for hanying
Sync encouraged me to quit
MPA may not get you there if it's not 6 months of saving up
Yea if you think it's not worth the space
600rc is an incredibly generous estimate
EXACTLY why I can't afford it. 
if you wanted to whale to SSS as a brand new player you'd have to drop a few hundred bucks at least
unfortunate cuz you'll need 3 dupes after SS0, that's 45k BC just after getting her
k whel
airdrop me a few hundred bucks
yeah even 50 bucks is already a little too much for me lol.
if you want sss units but you would like to get it after a while, you will need to buy MPA for at least 6 months and only pull what's necessary

maybe you'll need to get packs as well
and you can't just start spending to get an SSS unit right off the bat, that's leviathan behavior
Most SSS units are pulled through consistent spending for a few months
i dont remember but i do know that I saved over 6 months for one 3S unit
like getting all MPAs and BPs in every patch until the next S Rank
What about the people with SSS on literally every character, how many thousands are they spending 💀
not that much
that one sounds like 1k
hi 
I assume S+ is where you really ask how much they spend?
before acceleration SSS invest across the board could be doable with like 150$ per patch ig
Including limiteds like 2B
$150 is a lot
SSS+ would've been around 400$ per patch from what I've seen ppl like dq and esus say
no not really
even just sss all units will indicate heavy spender
just see if they have gacha skins
that's like, 7.5k in my currency
Ah- skins
some people will just pull 3S0 and call it a day
🤔 ok wtf
going above that is unnecessary in the climate of global
yeah I just mean it's not THAT much for something that would need crazy whaling in other games
even 1k is alot to me ngl, ive played valorant and CS for 3 years and still havent even spent 200 bucks across both 
heck, you can just pull 2s3 units at most and you'll already be doing very well
I am still young to spend money in games
3S is overkill imo
neither valo nor cs allow you to buy power unlike in pgr





