📨・meta-help

[ripe stag]

It's just that people treat PGR as a "waifu simulator" rather than how the games meant to be played

And then they complain

[shadow holly]

skip the whole rotation and do what
swap to capri too early?

when she does nothing

[keen meteor]

Thats just how pgr works
I coped with just a lightning team for 6 months until i had useable elemental teams but u get there eventually

[glass bay]

but that means they not gonna eos

[shadow holly]

oh wait mb lamia is after daren in rotation
but then you skip the whole rotation and you have like 4s of nothingburger til lamia swap cd is done

[distant wren]

ppl can do w/e they want but like

[feral pollen]

@shadow holly is it still worth getting rosetussy to s+ just to unlock s shard shop

[odd oriole]

Because it is fun

[shadow holly]

[odd oriole]

And i am asking for a friend

[ripe stag]

Just remember
Non-meta players hate when someone says anything about meta infront of them

[odd oriole]

Thought he might miss spin to win

[foggy ridge]

spiders hanying guide just popped up on my feed what do i expect from it?

[shadow holly]

i dont think you will be buying rosetta shards to actually make use of it no?

[white quiver]

Well yeah it's there, you need to hold atk Instead of rapid fire for the leap stuff

[ripe stag]

Do not watch it for your own good

[distant wren]

this guy putting in "you can skip her if need to" in a GAMEPLAY GUIDE is just unacceptable

[ripe stag]

Too many problems

[odd oriole]

Thank god!

[pine slate]

Expect what u should expect

[feral pollen]

innit to be able to convert her shards into others?

[ripe stag]

Also bad build setup recommendations

[foggy ridge]

in fairness i still cant confidently know for sure whats right or wrong until i get my hands on hanying

[distant wren]

like why even do that, it's a gameplay guide, why put reasons to ruin gameplay progression in

[white quiver]

Oh damn we're dunking on spider

[foggy ridge]

im just going on word of mouth from you guys

[ripe stag]

4 Changwuzi 4 Cottie if Hanying at SS0 or lower

[shadow holly]

well yes overflow shards
you need to get the overflow shards first
no point unlocking the shop if youre not going to be buying rosetta shards from vouchers/bp on top of the other chars' shards just to get the currency for that shop

[ripe stag]

CUB buff not that big of a buff so it's ok if you don't wanna pull

[white quiver]

Oh so she needs cottie to work?

[ripe stag]

NO IT DOESN'T

She has no problems with energy

[vale raft]

Watanabe: Epitaph <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:tank:1290614106520555571><:fire_element:1290613867365273630>

Harmony Tank Set

Usage

Harmony Tank/Sub-DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks for Luna: Oblivion and subsequently Lucia: Pyroath when they release
Used for all future Void and Fire content
Recommended to use after Qu:Shukra patch release (Polaris Bond).
Requires DLT weapon resonance and Harmony.
Harmony Set (Requires Harmony on Signature 6 Weapon)*

Memories

4x Alphonse
2x Shakespeare
2x Shakespeare (Harmony)

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Red Orb
Bottom Slot: 6x Class Passive

[livid lark]

yor build is patton if you got harmo

[white quiver]

Well yeah I assumed she'd run Patton

[distant wren]

cottie can sort of work if you're poor on orbs but like patton is too important to neglect

[ripe stag]

She runs 4 Changwuzi 4 Patton no matter the rank

[distant wren]

with shred field to consider

[odd oriole]

By the way, if i have rozen , Lamia and Ss3 Daren, is it worth to switch right now? Or just solo Lamia?

[shadow holly]

solo

[ripe stag]

Solo

[livid lark]

and then 2 volt 2 cath when selena drops

[white quiver]

Okay so I could just slap bianca's Patton on here and call it a day

[glass bay]

how the hell is an jie even bigger than bridget

[shadow holly]

no sss capri no swap

[abstract heron]

voltaire bianca set

[odd oriole]

Ok

[shy jackal]

Okay, that's one of my questions settled at least whew

[ripe stag]

Yea qte bot

[livid lark]

LMAO 2 PHILLIP FOR PPC

[ripe stag]

Works ?

[dawn cloak]

Front armor upgrade

[livid lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/933274148556402698.gif

[ripe stag]

[shadow holly]

thats DEVIOUS considering voltaire goes above def shred cap
literally wasting memory slots

[vale raft]

This memory does not exist. Please try again.

Philip II ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

Healing effect increases by 10%. Healing ally units will increase their Physical DMG by 10% and DEF by 10% for 5s. 8s cooldown.

4pc Set Bonus

A healing drone will be charged when healing is performed. When fully charged, the next time you performing healing will consume all charged energy to summon the healing drone. It will follow an ally with the lowest HP percentage, healing allies in a 5m radius for 2% maximum HP per second and increasing their Physical DMG by 15% for 5s. 12s cooldown.

ATK

132

CRIT

66

DEF

223

HP

1491

[ripe stag]

25% physical dmg

[glass bay]

shouldnt be humanly possible

[ripe stag]

Hmm

[livid lark]

looks like someone forgot about dv

[vale raft]

Da Vinci ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

When QTE is triggered, the controlling character gains 10% ATK and 20% DEF for 8s. Duration resets every time it is triggered.

4pc Set Bonus

When QTE is triggered, triggers another character's QTE. 8s cooldown. If there are 3 characters on the field, ATK is increased by 20% for 2s.

ATK

135

CRIT

66

DEF

218

HP

1491

[astral marsh]

Guys I need some desperate help, I'm way too confused and overwhelmed on what to do

[keen meteor]

Its on bianca?

[pine slate]

Alisa

[abstract heron]

echo

[livid lark]

no i was pointing out spider's misinfo for alisa

2/4 pc phil for ppc 💀

[shadow holly]

but thats correct

??

[abstract heron]

@livid lark @shadow holly

[livid lark]

is it?

[keen meteor]

In that screenshot the PC build is sig/phillip on echo and DV/Cath on bianca isnt that how its supposed to be

[shadow holly]

i mean yeah
dv on tank lol

well
on the 3rd member

[keen meteor]

Hanying runs her sig set

[simple dew]

HOW DO I EXPLAIN TO SOMEONE THAT TEDDY IS NOT BETTER THAN OBLVION

[shadow holly]

while alisa as a healer can actually trigger philip

what, u gonna put philip on ur 3rd member?

[livid lark]

just say that void and dark arent the same

[astral marsh]

Explain it to me. I'm confused as well, I just started the game and dk what to do

[keen meteor]

Yeah exactly so thats the correct PPC setup but idk about voltaire

[shy jackal]

What the fck

Who's saying that

[simple dew]

a friend of mine

[shadow holly]

yea voltaire is not doing anything there

unless like
no sig hanying lmao

[shy jackal]

I'm sending over a firepower bulwark courtesy of uncle

[dawn cloak]

She cute and smug
Thus better
Oblivion only cute

[meager iris]

Does Alisa give more buffs with leap?

[keen meteor]

What would be a better alt for voltaire there?

[shy jackal]

Ask your questions one by one, what are you confused about currently

[slender spoke]

should i always be unlocking character leaps?
like afaik u dont really swap into empy but should I still unlock her leap skills?

[shadow holly]

lantern
if no lantern ur cooked

[livid lark]

ohh alright fair enough
I didnt think about balter holding dv

[meager iris]

[livid lark]

me still thinking pre hanying alisa

[simple dew]

hes using oblivion basically as a 10s swap qte bot and teddy as the dps

[pine slate]

Phys ppc gonna be wild I can tell

[keen meteor]

Okay well i guess im cooked

[meager iris]

You didn’t have to edit it

[pine slate]

Phys is already strong in onslaught rn, how strong will it be next patch

[livid lark]

make him understand that void and dark are 2 different elements

[dawn cloak]

Welcome. Lots of newbie
Check pin
Farm event stage nonstop I guess
Make sure no serum goes unconsumed. Do the 6000 serum task for free SSS teddy+bridget

[shy jackal]

Bruh, tell him to actually try playing her

Thing is tho I'm guessing she has no sig and at base s?

[shadow holly]

balter shouldnt even be in there for ppc
just use eclipse bro
idk what he yapping about
voltaire is wild when hanying + cath is 100% def shred already

[meager iris]

I would say closer to void insane clears?

[livid lark]

??

thats why im confused as well

[shadow holly]

basic math is hard am i right

[pine slate]

Void is kinda slow at low invest

[simple dew]

he only got her cause he needs attack units and spams random shits

[shy jackal]

Or show him a physical demonstration or sum sht

Of teddy vs luna

[shy jackal]

Oh, one of those people...

[livid lark]

if rose has sig wouldnt it be better to use that?

[meager iris]

Yeah void needs to be sss3 to get insane clear times

[astral marsh]

Hello, thanks, I returned to the game after a long break, I'm just wondering what to pull/pick rn, here's what I got

[shy jackal]

WHAT EVEN GEEZ

IMAGE FLOOD

[sinful violet]

What’s on the next 70% banner?

[shy jackal]

Don't even consider them

Not worth

[livid lark]

dont think about it
it's that simple

[pine slate]

Get Luna and Watanabe epitaph if u don't have em

[slender spoke]

bumping

[pine slate]

Luna oblivion

[shadow holly]

if you're not running 4p sig set on hanying then yeah sure
otherwise you are capping out on def shred even without cath and you simply have no memories to use because you'll have TOO much def shred

[meager iris]

Garnet qukra ayla

[dawn cloak]

Oh no youre not newbie lmao
Im litteral newbie so cant help ya there XD

[livid lark]

even with the different name debuff?

[astral marsh]

:> thanks for considering tho

[shadow holly]

different name where

[livid lark]

on the sig?

or was that also taken out with the name rework

[astral marsh]

Is wata that good? Wouldn't lamia be good for dark team tho? I'm still using astral

[rose yew]

lemon melon cookie

[pine slate]

Wata is that good ye

[shadow holly]

well yeah hanying 80% shred and rosetta 20% from weapon
thats that

[livid lark]

yes
he's meta on 2 teams and does a lot of damage

[astral marsh]

@shy jackal

[shadow holly]

and then you just dont have any memories to use

[livid lark]

which can be replaced with memos?

[astral marsh]

No powercreep yet on cn?

[livid lark]

oh alright i see rip

[livid lark]

not anytime soon

[dawn cloak]

#📨・meta-help message
Dont pull Teddy I guess, just consume 6000 serum. We're on a 3 in 1 patch so free serum is also tripled

[meager iris]

What about giving hanying any damage memory and keep the 3rd unit with patton

[shadow holly]

so ur better off covering def shred with memories and using someone who provides more passive buffs like eclipse or whatever

[meager iris]

No lantern no life

[shadow holly]

[livid lark]

alright guess im saccing my rose sig

[shy jackal]

Hm so based on this

1. To start off it's usually easier to share your roster via a website called huaxu.app, you insert your user id and it shows every character you have, that way we don't get an image flood in here

2. You should pull for Luna Oblivion asap, she's extremely good

3. For the standard banner selector, choose Watanabe Epitaph for it, he's used crucially in Luna Oblivion teams and will also be the sub-dps in Lucia Pyroath teams when she drops in April

4. For the S-Rank selector choose Karenina Scire, as you already have Liv Empyrea

5. Don't pull for Kaleido's sig for now, save your bc for Hanying's sig

[livid lark]

i didnt know phys def shred had diminishing returns

[pine slate]

Wat it doesn't

[distant wren]

what cub icon is this that alisa is using in glacio

[livid lark]

100% cap?

[pine slate]

Yeah

[livid lark]

or am I not understanding that right

[meager iris]

What’s there if you already took 100% of the defence

[pine slate]

Bro defense is a flat value

[shadow holly]

u do swap into empy pretty much always
idk where that came from
her leap is good
but yeah her field time will be cut harder with pyroath debut

especially if sss epitaph

but leaps starting from like garnet are all good to unlock if youre using the char on field
and even not on field if the leap increases their debuffs n stuff like garnet leap for sss garnet, and scire leap for sss scire

[pine slate]

Not a % value like resistance

[hazy sandal]

【[战双] 说实话, 即使一周内一直在看文本, 还是感到混淆.-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/2dNOPZx

squid

[livid lark]

oh true

[shy jackal]

Hope that helped

[pine slate]

It doesn't go negative, 100% def shred is cap

[glass bay]

why are the babylonia comms so sht

[livid lark]

yea alright that makes sense

[glass bay]

they keep losing conneciton

absolute trash tech

[livid lark]

alright im saccing my rose sig

it's been a good run

guess thats r2 for hanying

[glass bay]

what if u run hanying without sig mem tho

[distant wren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/927836702318424075.gif?quality=lossless&size=48

[vale raft]

Changwuzi ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

Physical DMG increases by 10%.

4pc Set Bonus

Base DMG of Harmonics Orb increases by 100%. Piercing Strike effect applied by Hanying: Solacetune increases by 20%. Upon exiting Moonsong Realm, the area of effect will continue to last for 12s, dealing 50% Physical DMG to enemies once every second.

ATK

132

CRIT

66

DEF

223

HP

1491

[livid lark]

20% shred lost

[slender spoke]

gotchu. from what i've watched on runs with pyroath empy is swapped in for three orbs pings only and nothing else, my mistake.

[shadow holly]

ye thats where running rosetta is reasonable

because you actually properly benefit from the 20% free shred from her sig

[slender spoke]

also like are hypertune mat sources just guilds and dorms now?

[glass bay]

i mean then u can use rose sig

[hazy sandal]

Bro is confused asf

[shadow holly]

thats only after pyroath and only with sss epitaph xd

[sick flower]

SEGGS

[sharp jasper]

Quick question, what memory does Alisa and stigmata use? People been roasting spider2b for a while and grayraven.com doesn't have build for this specific dilemma and I'm confused now

[shadow holly]

guild, dorm, norman and clash reflection

[slender spoke]

riiight. i need to start looking at ss rank character only runs then cuz the only ones ive seen are sss+ runs

[livid lark]

you just made him question reality

[slender spoke]

thks

[shy jackal]

So if lower than sss uncle then empy is qte bot?

[meager iris]

ib too

[simple dew]

wait what which interaction is that

[shadow holly]

no with lower than sss uncle you have longer swap cd so empy has more field time

[shy jackal]

Ah okay good

So my leaped empy is not getting wasted

So it's still worth to pull her sig then

[strong grotto]

found this in my inventory after started the game, as a beginner which one should i choose?

[shadow holly]

doesnt matter really
everyone is useless

[sick flower]

idle

[shadow holly]

cool selector right

[shy jackal]

Not that it wasn't worth pulling her sig since harmo, but yeah

To improve field time I mean

[sick flower]

i dont think luminance is useless

[slender spoke]

uh if possible can someone recommend me youtubers that do ss rank character wz runs?

[shadow holly]

snazz

thats basically it

[pine slate]

Yeah only snazz

[slender spoke]

aight thks

[meager iris]

the goat

[pine slate]

Is kurai considered a YouTuber?

[astral marsh]

Thanks a lot, Karenina for S rank selector sure? Really don't like her, will it be better to pick kaleido/Capri/empy for dupes?

Oh, I'm not pulling that wep, I just have it on there as default, should I not go for Luna sig then?

[slender spoke]

mm ig i should save my hypertune mats for hanying instead of spending them on echo huh

[thorn creek]

Bricked player

He’s terrible at what he does

[distant wren]

he has more than 10 vids so prolly

[livid lark]

try the bot

[feral pollen]

wait spider dropped vid guide?

[livid lark]

for yor yes

[distant wren]

still remember when i watched some snazz lightning rot early on
could not follow what he was doing lmao

[sharp jasper]

How do I operate it? All the time I see the bot being used idk what to type

[shadow holly]

if you have empy but dont have scire then no picking anyone else will not be better
you either settle for optimal options that you dont like and do well, or play favorites but in that case there is no point asking anyone for advice cuz ur just going your own way

[livid lark]

/build

[slender spoke]

me when everyone here has been roasting that new vid while i just watch from the sidelines lol

[livid lark]

in #📨・bot-info

[sharp jasper]

I see, thx

[shadow holly]

just do help command and read everythig u need

[astral marsh]

I skipped scire at launch as well, thinking she's not that big of an upgrade over SSS+ 21

And I was doing pretty fine, which I do desperately need is a dark attacker

[shadow holly]

shes only not that big of an upgrade if you're not getting her sig and not looking at future viability at all

[livid lark]

[shadow holly]

but holy another victim of scire skip propaganda

[livid lark]

rip ion enabler

[frozen creek]

[hazy sandal]

Uwooogh this game is trash

[astral marsh]

Exactly, and I don't have any sig on my account

[livid lark]

speaking of which
ion will get its official name in 2 weeks

@deft apex

[shadow holly]

how
are you intentionally not pulling them or dont get all of the available income that you dont have enough pulls

[livid lark]

finally i wont have to figure out what the correct name is

[meager iris]

what invest is this

[hazy sandal]

444

[meager iris]

nice

[dawn cloak]

Scire is cute tsundere how can ppl skip her

[hazy sandal]

[shy jackal]

Scire is 15% shred for 12s at base, 1.5x the shred for 2x the time

[meager iris]

how is lucia s+? is it big upgrade from sss3 or like luna?

[hazy sandal]

Tremendous

[meager iris]

I like it

[astral marsh]

I did have been saving to get Capri from pull and getting all her free shards and stuff. Is it too late, has she become completely unusable? I liked her the most when I was playing back then

[livid lark]

do you want to farm for her sss

[frozen creek]

She’s been unusable without SSS rank for over the past year

[astral marsh]

Something like that, I don't remember

[livid lark]

as in like use your vouchers for her

[shy jackal]

Capriccio is only usable at sss with 2 weapon resonances on her sig

[frozen creek]

Also don’t backpulling units

[astral marsh]

I have 1 wep reso card

[shy jackal]

Too expensive of an investment now and lilith is coming soon, which powercreeps her and lamia as main dps

[livid lark]

typical starbucks white girl fr fr

[astral marsh]

How to get SSS?

[shy jackal]

120 shards

[meager iris]

slena is cooking

[astral marsh]

With base copy?

[livid lark]

from vouchers or pulling extra copies

[meager iris]

ah I need new characters to mald ib with

[livid lark]

after

[shy jackal]

In terms of vouchers that's 96480 vouchers, and yes at base copy

[meager iris]

looks fun

[astral marsh]

I see

[deft apex]

no dreams for names

[livid lark]

complete dogwater unit btw

[shy jackal]

Mhm

[livid lark]

i refuse to invest any further into my dark

capri will forever remain at r1

[astral marsh]

How much the game gives for free again? It's 50 right, just enough to unlock her?

[livid lark]

yes

s0 is absolutely useless though

may as well run teddy at that point

[astral marsh]

I have like 60, been holding off on unlocking her cuz of that

[meager iris]

feed her sig to lilith

[livid lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1240599200618512426.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=selenayes

[raw swift]

not sure if it's the right place to ask but is there a guide to derived from matrix? I'm missing one ending

[livid lark]

check pins

[astral marsh]

So I need another 60 after I get her from selector. How much will that cost?

[raw swift]

Thank you

[livid lark]

or just use the search

[livid lark]

50k vouchers approx

[meager iris]

there is no better place to ask

[astral marsh]

What if I get her shards from ppc skull how much/many shard is that?

[shy jackal]

If you haven't unlocked her, that's 170 shards

[meager iris]

they will tell you to get cw instead

[livid lark]

30 only and you need 500 skulls

dogwater unit btw

[meager iris]

and skip hanying cuz ros is better

[ashen edge]

@distant wren do you want me to try ur phys

[astral marsh]

Okay, I have enough, if I pick her from selector, then get the rest from ppc and voucher. I'll get her to SSS, how will she perform 🗿

[shy jackal]

Still bad

Needs her signature weapon and 2 weapon resonances again, to deal damage

[astral marsh]

Demn

[astral marsh]

I'll pull her sig aswell, got one reso card aswell. I'll manage the other one

[shy jackal]

And to use her you also need karenina at ss3 + her sig to swap to in order to do swap rotation in dark team iirc

There isn't just lamia -> capriccio swap as far as I know

[livid lark]

very subpar

[distant wren]

if you want to, sure, i'll dm you

[astral marsh]

Okay I give up

[livid lark]

if you want damage she wont give it

[shy jackal]

Dark team investment is dumb, I know

[meager iris]

capri?

[shy jackal]

Ye

[astral marsh]

So I still just keep coping with scire, astral, vera?

[meager iris]

yeah not worth

[livid lark]

i speak from experience when i say SSS R1 is weak

[shy jackal]

Teddy is better than vera

[livid lark]

replace rozen with teddy

[astral marsh]

Ooo nice

[meager iris]

better save vouchers for other teams tbh

[shy jackal]

In fact, she'll serve as your dark team's main dps

[ashen edge]

ill give you a login link later

lemme finish overspeed first

[shy jackal]

Teddy does more damage than luna laurel if I'm not mistaken

[meager iris]

selena is still trash even with sss

[astral marsh]

Wow she does that much dmg? I even got my UNC full leaped

[shy jackal]

And you can get teddy to sss+ for free if you spend 6000 serum

[astral marsh]

I see I see

[livid lark]

funnest unit

[shy jackal]

I don't have much knowledge on astral leap so I'm unsure there

[astral marsh]

So everyone unanimously saying to pull oblivion and not skip?

[shy jackal]

Someone else could prob provide insight on that

[shy jackal]

Yeah, if you skip oblivion you're kinda bricking your account 😬

[astral marsh]

It was pretty good. Hard carried me, solo'd him without having any orb issue

[meager iris]

never skip in pgr basically

but yeah luna is very strong

[shy jackal]

She does need her sig though, and less so ss rank but she's still good

You could probably just pull for her sig after you pull her then use the bc you get from wanshi patch to pull for hanying sig

[astral marsh]

Okay, just got her. Exactly on 60 lmao

[livid lark]

you havent played epitaph yet if you think he's strong

[astral marsh]

I see... So I get her sig now? Already at 20/30 is her sig literally the only/best investment for my team rn?

[astral marsh]

Oh that's ik for sure

[shy jackal]

Trust me, she'll carry you super hard in tons of content

Her sig improves her rotation drastically

[real jackal]

how long does it take to do all the missions for wreck it bear?

[feral pollen]

few hours

[thorn creek]

depends how skilled u are

[real jackal]

ty. guess im not getting those dorm mats then

[feral pollen]

lol

[real jackal]

wb nexus treck?

[thorn creek]

that one will take a while

[real jackal]

[astral marsh]

Okay so between qu, epitepth, lamia I should get epitaph sure?

[thorn creek]

ye

despite my love for feesh

[astral marsh]

If even her husband saying that then sure 💀

[shy jackal]

Yes

Not biased here

[astral marsh]

As for the A rank, doesn't matter?

[thorn creek]

depends who u have rn

try to have teams for each element filled

[shy jackal]

I mean, if you want to you could switch it to teddy so you get her shards and thus to sss+ faster

But yeah fill out your elemental teams first

[glass bay]

man the physics on bridget are ridiculous in this story mode

what in the actual fk

[thorn creek]

k gooning whel

[astral marsh]

@thorn creek these all I got

[glass bay]

u literally goon on fish 24/7

[thorn creek]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046509146318585987/1270998096599453740/doropump.gif

[shy jackal]

[vague nebula]

[thorn creek]

ig ur fine for now

u have every A rank that's actually usable

[astral marsh]

Btw will that standard selector ever reset?

[shy jackal]

Yes

[astral marsh]

Oh. When?

[shy jackal]

During ishamel patch it'll reset

[thorn creek]

yeah in ishmael patch

[shy jackal]

So use it while you can

[astral marsh]

Oh nice

[shy jackal]

Mhm

[buoyant hornet]

It's gonna be much less stressful with hanying thankfully

[astral marsh]

If I don't use it, will I get 2 counter 💀

[thorn creek]

nope

[dire plinth]

hello, returning player here. I dont seem to understand why I cant level the memory to max when i have enough mats for it 😭

[shy jackal]

You could probably choose someone like qu to fill in your missing ice dps, not sure how good of a choice that is tho

[thorn creek]

u dont have memories to sacrifice to give exp

[shy jackal]

Not enough memory enhancers

[simple dew]

you need memory enchancers

[shy jackal]

Click "select material"

[thorn creek]

they should be available in the event shop

[loud pivot]

you don't have xp carfs

[dire plinth]

oh my gosh

i forgot abt that

[shy jackal]

Lol

[dire plinth]

thank you 😭

[simple dew]

can we have chars that have fun idles and not paragraphs while being stationary 24/7 as assistants

[astral marsh]

Welp too late, already got unc

Ig I'll just cope with Bambi, heard she got a leap

[shy jackal]

No I meant for when it resets during ishmael patch

[glass bay]

they literally added a function where u can walk slowly to observe the physics

[astral marsh]

Oo I see

[feral pollen]

#💬・pgr-general

[shy jackal]

You could get someone else to fill in missing dps spots

[river nymph]

@meager iris if only w27 wasnt a shield wave

[thorn creek]

k gooning pervert whel

[shy jackal]

I'd post another feesh image but it'd get me banned likely

[thorn creek]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565860804323311638/1302280036283449427/1113698622488465438.gif

I'm interested

[glass bay]

k pervert omegawhel

[thorn creek]

nuh uh

[astral marsh]

So who's weapon do I pick now? Almost close to pity on that banner, Cw, Kaleido, hyperlee, balter, oblivion, epitaph

@shy jackal

[feral pollen]

epitaph

[mighty relic]

does balter still have a role in CN? or is she a dead character?

[astral marsh]

Over Luna? Sure?

[buoyant hornet]

Trueslash but it's currently kind of a dead affix lol

[astral marsh]

Oh btw who's coming in the next joint patch?

[frozen creek]

no

[dreamy pelican]

trueslash

[frozen creek]

only sig higher priority than lunas is qu'

[mighty relic]

wait whaaaaat

[frozen creek]

and since you probably dont have qu get luna sig

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah I just said that 😭😭

[mighty relic]

what’s wrong w trueslash?

[astral marsh]

I see

[buoyant hornet]

She's trueslash main dps but trueslash gets bad scores if you don't have minimum ss3 hanying and also if you don't have sss balter it's also a big drop

[livid lark]

oh yea you should see this
#📨・meta-help message

[dreamy pelican]

and im saying that trueslash is a truejoke

[buoyant hornet]

So if you have either of those then you could have a chance

[mighty relic]

hmm

[shy jackal]

No, luna needs her weapon more than epitaph

[mighty relic]

i’ve got balter SS but was looking to try get her SSS cos i like her a lot

[frozen creek]

shes getting replaced soon so have fun

replacing balter before empyrea is so stupid

[buoyant hornet]

Oh much needed tysm

[mighty relic]

who’s the replacement?

[frozen creek]

actually no scire is even more crazy because dark team sucks

[livid lark]

selena

[vale raft]

Selena: Pianissimo

Skill - Basic Attack (Lv. 18)

Legato Reprise: Progression
Trigger: Swordbearer + Tap Basic Attack

Unleashes a string of attacks with her sword while dancing, dealing Physical DMG.

• Basic Attacks deal a total of 730.0% Physical DMG and grant a total of 50 Glaciation Points.
• On the 5th hit, gains invincibility, 1 additional Signal Orb and 1 Quaver.

1/4

[livid lark]

seggslena

[shy jackal]

Selena pianissimo

Don't know if I spelled that right

Oh I did nice

[dreamy pelican]

selena is phys glacio right?

[mighty relic]

there’s a new selena frame coming? 👀

[shy jackal]

Mhm

[livid lark]

yes

[mighty relic]

she’s a dual type? the hell

[shy jackal]

No she's element + affix

[dreamy pelican]

phys is main element, glacio is affix

[livid lark]

newer units have this configuration now

[shy jackal]

Glacio is glaciation

Now that I think of it

Why is it glacio and not glacia

[mighty relic]

damn i gotta go watch some gameplay

[shy jackal]

Or just glaci

[frozen creek]

glaci

[stray siren]

glaci

[foggy ridge]

so i watched spiders hanying guide. whats wrong with it?

[buoyant hornet]

Glaci

[stray siren]

I think that's what I'll call it now

[buoyant hornet]

A few misinformed tidbits here and there (some worse than others) 😭

[shy jackal]

Some pretty egregious misinfo

[buoyant hornet]

I remember when someone called lamia's dive "bubble pop" honestly that nickname would be better 😭

[shy jackal]

[noble ravine]

is there a general priority for weapon harmonization?

[vague nebula]

[foggy ridge]

id like to know which parts he misinfoed

[feral pollen]

just look for aether's msgs in this channel he listed everything today

[stray siren]

New units > old units, from old units there should be some list in pinged messages

[vague nebula]

1st harmo the newest characters
among the old ones highest should be alisa echo
and also what cheese said

[buoyant hornet]

Saying hanying cub "isn't that impactful" was the biggest thing tbh

[noble ravine]

tysm!

[buoyant hornet]

And also saying that sss sig rosetta is at all comparable to hanying

[vague nebula]

pet doesn't impact hanying?? is this spoder?

[shy jackal]

Yep

[vague nebula]

and he gets the most views aside the other guy i forgot his name

[shy jackal]

Rexlent?

[vague nebula]

yeah yeah

[buoyant hornet]

Rexlent guides are very meh tbh

[vague nebula]

[buoyant hornet]

Much less misinfo but it's very casual catered imo

[shy jackal]

I mean, that's fair tbh

[buoyant hornet]

Like it rarely actually explains the kit nuances or important kit details

[vague nebula]

well guides should be for casuals

[buoyant hornet]

It's just "do this rotation like this"

[buoyant hornet]

True

[shy jackal]

Unless they really want to learn nuances then beginners would just get swamped with info and confused

[nova quarry]

where harmo guide

[buoyant hornet]

Empress is the only one with somewhat more competitive details

[shy jackal]

Kits are already word-vomity

[vague nebula]

i go to empress for guides yeah

[buoyant hornet]

Guys one of us needs to step up and start making video guides for more competitively oriented people tbh

[vague nebula]

what do u want to know?

[buoyant hornet]

Maybe something that builds on the basics that empress shows

[foggy ridge]

i dont see anything

[buoyant hornet]

Aka ppc tricks for rotations, certain kit details, etc

[shy jackal]

If I ever start investing more time into cn meta and nuances then maybe

I've done guides before for other games

[feral pollen]

look harder then

[vague nebula]

[shy jackal]

Mostly just simple sht tho

[vague nebula]

simple is enough

[buoyant hornet]

Luna guide was impossible to comprehend without actually playing luna first but that's only because of Luna's sht orb economy that forces extreme basic weaving

[vague nebula]

I made a guild expedition guide it was kinda rough but it still got 900 views

[buoyant hornet]

If anyone decides to make competitive guides I'm down to help however (aside from video editing lmao)

[foggy ridge]

i just see aether not wanting to watch the vid

[wispy robin]

it's about time to start your cc career 🐴

[vague nebula]

true
i got confused then I tried playing luna asked here watched the video again and said oh thats what it is xD

[buoyant hornet]

Perhaps

[foggy ridge]

starting cc career on pgr is wild

[nova quarry]

what harmo to get for ice team when wanshi arrives

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah rewatching it was like solving ancient riddles after playing her LMAO

[shy jackal]

Lmao real

[vague nebula]

wanshi is 4 Liston(his sig mem) and 4 chen jiyuan

[mighty relic]

if i only could harmony 2 characters atm who should i upgrade?

[graceful sun]

I jusat came back after a huge break is lucia pluma and crimson weave still good?

[vague nebula]

fr fr

[buoyant hornet]

Btw do we know if this is the last physical cycle before han?

[nova quarry]

how bout qu?

[vague nebula]

plume is deadge
replaced by Qu Shukra
weave is still meta for lightning weak content

[buoyant hornet]

Not really unfortunately lol

Cw is still technically meta but she's low priority if you don't already have her

[foggy ridge]

whatchu got for characters? preferably the new and shiny ones like wata, qu, and luna

[vague nebula]

qu's build stays same
4 sig memory Ji Boan iirc
4 chen jiyuan

[mighty relic]

i got all 3 of them ahahahha

[buoyant hornet]

Do you have alisa sig?

[nova quarry]

oh cool

[mighty relic]

i do yeah, i’ve got her harmonised (my only one atm) so i’m looking for advice on what to do for my remaining 2 harmony

[foggy ridge]

oh yeaha alisa too shes like the mega harmo priority out of force

[wispy robin]

i'd go for luna and hanying first

[vague nebula]

nice then

[mighty relic]

why is she so high prio? (talking abt alisa)

[buoyant hornet]

Actually in wz it changes to 4sig 2darwin 2cj (assuming wanshi has harmo and carries 4cj)

[buoyant hornet]

Either this or 4cottie if someone really has a skill issue with stagger during her field time but it's less edb

[soft anchor]

does this thing go to next event? or it resets?

[simple dew]

it obviously resets

[buoyant hornet]

Because she completely needs signa to be able to apply crit buff so she needs harmo to be able to carry 4davinci alongside it (also extremely powerful/impactful memory for qte management and buffing)

[wispy robin]

or still 4cj if your omegadalao and is capable to perform all kinds of crazy wanshi rots

[simple dew]

you should spend it on fate banners for sure

[soft anchor]

FCK

[raw swift]

i finally got him. how do you suggest building him? also, pull for his signature weapon, or settle for a 5 star?

[shy jackal]

It doesn't lmao they're playing with you

[mighty relic]

AH i see

[shy jackal]

[soft anchor]

bruh

😦

[buoyant hornet]

What characters with sig do you have (non harmo)

[simple dew]

[buoyant hornet]

Wait why would she carry it if wanshi is carrying it? Or do you mean using a different set on wanshi?

[raw swift]

what are your tips on building this character? @shy jackal

[buoyant hornet]

Btw sss wanshi still 4cj or does he prioritize something else?

[vale raft]

Watanabe: Epitaph <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:tank:1290614106520555571><:fire_element:1290613867365273630>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set

Memories

4x Alphonse
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Red Orb
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

Cottie

[mighty relic]

luna (new), uncle, balter, qu, liv (emp)

[wispy robin]

idk but so far all of dalaos on bili are running 4cj
snazz said it can be due to effect running out on 2nd qu rot if it's only on wanshi though generally you still gonna get higher score with 2dw on normal rot

[raw swift]

what about memory placement?

[simple dew]

it doesnt matter

[ripe stag]

4 cjy

[simple dew]

i think

[raw swift]

okay thank you.

[ripe stag]

Cottie bottom

Same with Shakespeare

[raw swift]

i'll do 1 3 4 6 shakespeare, the rest cottie.

[buoyant hornet]

Wata is the one who needs it most here, followed by qu (at least until wanshi which is 3 weeks from now) and then empy

Can harmo balter but it's less important since her mem set changes in 12 days

[stray siren]

Using 4CJ on both allows you to never lose the deBuff/buff, but if you use 2 Darwin on Qu and you are fast enough, you do more damage

[shy jackal]

Nonono, don't do that

[mighty relic]

WOAT WHAT i just resonated and maxed out all her memories ;-;

[buoyant hornet]

Hmm makes sense ig I'll just end up testing both

[graceful sun]

any way to swap dodge and attack to m1 and m2?

[stray siren]

Lmao I still confuse DV with Darwin at this point

[buoyant hornet]

Oops

[raw swift]

what do you suggest?

[shy jackal]

You should only do shakespeare if you have epitaph's 6* weapon

[buoyant hornet]

Balter infamous for changing sets a LOT lmao

[wispy robin]

it also works both ways
if ur dalao enough to perform big brain wanshi rots u will do more dmg with both 4cj

[mighty relic]

what’s her new set?

[ripe stag]

Wtf no

[shy jackal]

If you don't have his 6*, your only choice is to run 4pc alphonse(which is his signature set) and 2pc cottie

[buoyant hornet]

True but qu in rotation does 2 strong rots right? Don't think that can fit in the duration probably

[ripe stag]

His set is

• 4 Alphonse 2 Cottie (Cottie harmony)
• 4 Alphonse 2 Shakespeare (Shakespeare harmony)

[raw swift]

my apologies, i believed they were the same set.

[ripe stag]

Alphonse is must

[stray siren]

Interesting

[dire plinth]

chat is she set?

[wispy robin]

i mean otherwise dudes who score 7m with ss qu wouldn't run it lmao

[buoyant hornet]

4charlotte 2catherine, and on harmo 2signa

[shy jackal]

Yeah

[vale raft]

Lamia: Lost Lullaby <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:attacker:1285839106240417803><:dark_element:1290613554923438102>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set

Memories

4x Derketo
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

Cottie

[river nymph]

[shy jackal]

Keep in mind for the future though

[foggy ridge]

very much so other than her not being ss

[shy jackal]

For any dps that isn't physical

[buoyant hornet]

1346 is so 😭😭

[shy jackal]

You don't have to chase the 15+ crit attack option

Because elemental units can't crit

Only physical units can

[dire plinth]

ikk hopefully ill get another copy as i build pity on her banner or js do the waiting game and buy her shards

[buoyant hornet]

Also if you plan on pulling hanying sig make sure to save some for her too

[mighty relic]

yeah i was planning on getting her sig

[foggy ridge]

get her shards via ppc skulls. waste ur bc on hanying instead

unless ur not planning on going meta then go crazy

[buoyant hornet]

She goes 4sig 4patton preferably so yeah she wants harmo

[raw swift]

i just started this account about 2 days ago. so should i be pulling for his signature weapon? ( planning to pull for luna as well )

[mighty relic]

SS hanying and sig should be the goal, yeah?

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah

[nova quarry]

should i harmo empy or feral

[buoyant hornet]

Which one of them is more invested

[shy jackal]

Luna's sig weapon takes priority over watanabe's

[feral pollen]

saying ss3 is 'slight buffs' is quite of an understatement

[nova quarry]

sss empy and ss feral

[shy jackal]

Watanabe is... copeable with his 5*

But luna just feels slow and clunky with her 5*

[dire plinth]

idk yet, i have yet to know about hanyig (returning player here). rn im contemplating on whether i should get liv or bianca from thr free s rank selector 😭

[raw swift]

understood.

[buoyant hornet]

Unplayable is more like it

[soft anchor]

has anyone replaced no21 xxi? i rly like playing her

[nova quarry]

so go harmo empy?

[mighty relic]

are there any units i should spend my hypertune currency on? i can fully hypertune 2 units so who should i focus on first?

[foggy ridge]

hard choice yeh lmao. i know balter will be replaced by selena pianissimo but thats gonna be around 3-4 months for glb before that happens accounting for accel patches

[river nymph]

[buoyant hornet]

Well assuming she's the unit you use for void then yeah definitely

[wispy robin]

4cottie if solo (which going to be the case for 90% new ppl asking)

[buoyant hornet]

That's 2 teams + ppc

[foggy ridge]

and while empy is still alive on cn, shes on the list of replacements

[exotic vessel]

who should i pull for/prioritize building? only cw and oblivion got a 6 star weapon

[shy jackal]

I was thinking about saying that but unplayable honestly feels like it has a negative connotation and places stress on newer players who might see it as an absolute priority

When getting units > sigs is more important

[buoyant hornet]

Ye that person specifically already has balter so they don't need that thankfully

[exotic vessel]

i have the check selector banner + the selector from that new event

[shy jackal]

Luna is def unplayable with 5* when trying to use her competetively, but casually is less so egregious

[dire plinth]

maybe ill wait for selena and suffer w nier team until she arrives

[stray siren]

Wanshi is the key and I don't know how to play him optimally

[buoyant hornet]

Btw do you think it's worth going out of my way to harmo cottie just to test solo balter for the sake of it

[foggy ridge]

nier team in 2025 is wild (i dont have them)

[wispy robin]

dw literally no one does not even snazz

[dire plinth]

its my only physical team 🥹

[raw swift]

NIER TEAM?!

[foggy ridge]

i guarantee hanying will outshine the entire nier team by herself

[shy jackal]

Yeah lol

[raw swift]

Could you even keep 2B until balter

Is that viable

[wispy robin]

well harmoing doesn't cost much anyway

[foggy ridge]

i cant really speak on it cause i never played during the collab but with how powercreep is going, im pretty confident thats the case

[dire plinth]

HAHAHA ill def pull for hanyig, i js dont have her teamates.. i think

[foggy ridge]

you got alisa?

shes free from dorms

[dire plinth]

unfortunately no

[buoyant hornet]

I completely agree but I genuinely think if there's one sig that's a MUST pull it's oblivion's (unfortunately)

[dire plinth]

im returning to the game rn so i js started w the dorm commissions

[foggy ridge]

ah ok then

[lethal kestrel]

when i play with qu sakura, after i use these little feather things, i sometimes cannot use them again after a rotation, is there something that i am doing wrong? the sword is also stuck and I can't get out

[graceful sun]

what character should i choose for the base s rank? I heard that lamia and qu shukra were the best?

[shy jackal]

Add qu as well

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah too much serum this patch anyway

[shy jackal]

You can only turn them to glyphs in Into The Fray if I'm not mistaken

[buoyant hornet]

Tbh it might be more bearable once she doesn't have to solo anymore

[dire plinth]

yes (440k score in warzone…)

[shadow holly]

you're probably not activating her core state again
the core state is activated by doing a 3ping + followup orbs
then the gauge starts going down and you can get the stacks for doing 3pings

[lethal kestrel]

thats probably it

[foggy ridge]

id still get her anyway even if you dont have teamates to back her up rn

[soft anchor]

lamia, decryptor and scire best dark team rn?

[ripe stag]

Tbf I'm half expecting 2B to get the Wanshi rot right

[dire plinth]

so im guessing i should get liv and wait for selena ig?

[stray siren]

He will soon, I'm sure

[shadow holly]

lamia capri and scire provided everyone has proper invest
if you dont have ss3 + r2 scire with cub and sss with sig capri then yeah teddy is correct instead of capri since you'd play lamia solo on field

[raw swift]

the games recommends 2p ein, to should i just ignore it?

[foggy ridge]

ignore the fk out of it wtf

[soft anchor]

i never got to ss and u are talking about ss3 🤣

[wispy robin]

we need someone who can decipher that dalao rot and put it into words
if discord char limit will be enough

[soft anchor]

ty for info btw

[shy jackal]

In game recommendations are usually never good

[buoyant hornet]

I was today years old when I found out lingya basically has an amp buff 😭

[raw swift]

roger.

[lethal kestrel]

what orb do you use on selena to gap close ?

[stray siren]

Just hold red + pew pew pew

[crystal shale]

sorry for just barging in on the discussion, I just wanna ask who should I pick on this and on the Event Normal pull banner

[foggy ridge]

this one wont work because eins buff is outshined by wata being able to 2 ult on his rot using cottie

[dire plinth]

id recommend lamia for the member target

[foggy ridge]

wait no pause there

wata is the better choice rn in the member target

[dire plinth]

or watanabe

yeahh

[crystal shale]

here's my current team, cause honestly I just came back recently after like.... not playing for a year

[shy jackal]

Get liv empyrea if you don't have her from the selector, and watanabe epitaph from the standard banner target

[simple dew]

hanying

[ripe whale]

Can you change FOV ?

[foggy ridge]

i think thats the best thing to do. i know theres trueslash content that wont work well without bianca but thats hero-legend territory and you need ss3 hanying to be competetive for trueslash anyway

[crystal shale]

I suppose that's the final choice then, Liv Empyrea and Watanabe Epitaph, thank you very much for the help cause honestly researching it a bit was just a headache to choose who's worth and what not

[foggy ridge]

atleast going on the cn dalaos experience

[shy jackal]

Yeah those are usually the best choices

[dire plinth]

sorry, whats trueslash? 😭

[barren plank]

Plume? Been dead for a while now

[soft anchor]

i meant crimson weave

[nova forum]

[barren plank]

She’s still meta for now but she’s really fallen off

[shadow holly]

not yet outdated but lightning is the weakest team + she will be shifted/replaced by new nanami in the future

[feral pollen]

wot are the chances jetavie will replace feesh

[barren plank]

No

There’s no way they would replace Lamia before Scire anyways

[feral pollen]

dam

another non meta unit to my collection

[buoyant hornet]

@pine slate i think this explains why you were doing the same dmg as me without double amp 💀

[thorn creek]

whew

[soft anchor]

oh oke. what is strongest team rn? bcs i have pyhisical and im thinking going for dark

[thorn creek]

we finallly got new orb color

so tired of the regular red, yellow, blue

[shadow holly]

right now the strongest are void and ice i guess
it's not like you can choose which team to go for though
you just build teams in accordance which units come out, and as you pull them, you integrate them into your roster

[astral marsh]

Could've had the mention on, sorry I didn't notice, So what do I do? Get luna wep? Or just save

[soft anchor]

yeah ig. im newer so idk a lot

[astral marsh]

Btw who's coming again in the next joint patch?

[thorn creek]

hanying and wanshi

[astral marsh]

How long will that patch last?

[thorn creek]

around 6 weeks

[shadow holly]

ffs its the very first pin

in this channel

everything about the next patch

[thorn creek]

pin shows exact dates

[astral marsh]

Estimated bc income for f2p?

[wispy robin]

can someone explain how to play leaped scire?
i borrowed her but when i try to spin she only ever do this move

[shadow holly]

most likely 20-25k bc/tickets/whatever combined

[astral marsh]

Just do her tutorial :)

[thorn creek]

so fate banner doable u mean

[shadow holly]

spins should be as usual just spamming attack or holding down rapid fire

[astral marsh]

So only enough to guarantee only one?

[shadow holly]

while the spin skip move is hold atk iirc

[shadow holly]

tank wanshi is free from dorm commission shop

[shy jackal]

Wanshi's free, don't worry

[astral marsh]

Oh very nice

And who's next?

[simple dew]

orb colors got power crept 💔

[shy jackal]

So you can use the bc from his patch other stuff

[shadow holly]

a bigger issue is that you need to save enouhg pulls to get pyroath instantly next patch + u kinda want weapons xd

[shy jackal]

Most likely yata fulgor and lucia pyroath

[thorn creek]

and to prep 4 S ranks in a row soon

[soft anchor]

why is never in voice here tho?

[wispy robin]

oh so you need to spam clicks
i remember just holding atk when i played her before

[loud pivot]

for a QTE bot empy should i use 4pc da vinci and 2 pc guine?

and why isn't 2pc einstien viable for this kind of build..?

[astral marsh]

So A rank

[astral marsh]

Who?

[shadow holly]

that never worked even before pretty sure
maybe you borrowed sss or higher so it kinda did due to sss passive

[shadow holly]

wdym

[astral marsh]

I'm saying basically she's alone next after that with having only another A rank character?

[vale raft]

Current Roadmap (as of Feb 08th 2025)

[loud pivot]

ah, i see the thing right now is that i don't have reso for wep yet.

[shy jackal]

That's the best case scenario yeah

Buuut...

[loud pivot]

i see, thanks!

[shadow holly]

well
yes
the patch after hanying + wanshi is probably lucia + yata

not like it helps much its basically like the normal schedule

[astral marsh]

Aight

[shy jackal]

iirc one server had nanaknight lumped in with lucia and yata

[shadow holly]

the fun part comeswhen you get nanami + ishmael

[shy jackal]

Don't remember which or if they didn't

[astral marsh]

But we get triple bc no?

[shadow holly]

triple bc my ass

[shy jackal]

We get double, because it's two patches

[deft apex]

updated roadmap btw

[shadow holly]

triple stuff is only this patch

[astral marsh]

Till it catches up to cn

[simple dew]

cant i theoretically skip nanami and get her from the reset in ish patch

[thorn creek]

no double instead

[shadow holly]

because its 3 patches merged into one

[astral marsh]

Ah yee

[thorn creek]

cuz its based on the number of patches combined

fkin global reading and math comprehension is questionable

[astral marsh]

So this is the only 3 patch combination and all the next are 2

[thorn creek]

[shadow holly]

we dont know for sure man

[thorn creek]

not fully confirmed if all are gonna be 2 for sure

[shadow holly]

kuro dont announce anything in advance

[astral marsh]

Aight

[thorn creek]

we could even get 4 patches in a row

for 4 S ranks in a row

[astral marsh]

But I'm still confused on what to do... Do I pull Luna wep? Or epitaph wep or just skip

I'm 20/30 on banner

[sonic citrus]

Same with customer support. Someone ask for his kuro account to be unbind and his google account got unbind instead.

[cursive mason]

wow, I just found out that you need 11 copies to fully max them out...
now I am thinking....
maybe I don't care for leaderboards and scores and then spend all free bc only for characters I REALLY like? will this be enough?

[thorn creek]

that's fine

[shadow holly]

the flaw in ur judgement is thinking that you need sss+ chars to do well

[thorn creek]

if u just want to play casually and not care about leaderboards

[simple dew]

for most chars ss is enough

[shadow holly]

what needs sss+ if ur going for like top 3 in ur server

[thorn creek]

if lamia, i completely agree

[simple dew]

which you get from ppc

[thorn creek]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/758147515647918100.gif

[cursive mason]

it is not about doing well, it is about wanting to have the best version of the characters I like most

[thorn creek]

well, meta wise, characters are gonna be replaced sooner or later

[shadow holly]

i mean idk you can have the best version of only the chars you like and miss out on a large portion of your free income of different resources and stuff, or you can just invest into everyone equally and do well and get more rewards overall from weekly and other recurring modes

[thorn creek]

but if that's how u want to play, u do u

we're just here to give the best meta wise opinions

[frail yew]

What's the current minimum investment for each team to bring them to functionality

Plez and thank yous

[foggy ridge]

technically the best versions of units are when they are ss

[shy jackal]

1. Invest into general characters
2. Get into a position where you get mats comfortably
3. Invest into characters you like

[cursive mason]

though I suppose I do not even have the character, which got me to start playing this game in the first place
I wonder, if I should try to get her with that 70% chance

[shy jackal]

70% is a scam

[wispy robin]

was it cw

[foggy ridge]

not with that attitiude

[shy jackal]

Dps SS usually, amps ideally need sss

[cursive mason]

if you mean alpha, yes

[shy jackal]

Tru

[river nymph]

[wispy robin]

she will be free in 2 patches

[cursive mason]

oh I like that

[shy jackal]

...More alpha simps?

[wispy robin]

her weap and cub as well

[cursive mason]

nice

[wispy robin]

she also will be voucherable so technically if you buy bps you could get her to s+ eventually without pulling if you really wanted

[cursive mason]

though I also want to save for the dmc collab, I WANT vergil

[shadow holly]

phys just ss everyone + i'd say alisa sig

lightning at least to have ss + sig cw is enough for decently performing solo, feral needs at least ss + sig to be functional with swap
heavily recommended garnet weapon and SS too imo but if you dont have those no point getting them now

dark just having lamia sig for solo is fine
for swap imo minimal invest is ss r1 lamia, ss3 r2 + cub scire and sss + sig capriccio

ice having ss + sig shukra is fine

fire having ss + sig on everyone is needed for comfortable rotation overall

void u need at least ss + sig luna

[cursive mason]

ohhh very nice

[cursive mason]

can you blame them, have you seen the 100% motivated alpha vs the twins video, she is just cool
I do not know how to play like that though

[foggy ridge]

there is a catch that she will be appararently be useless in future lightning team when nanaknight comes out unless shes sss

it... kinda looks easy ngl LMAO

[shadow holly]

that's the thing, the "stylish" videos are just bait for people who have not played the game
because they dont even feature anything impressive
all these guys do are just spam swordwaves on alpha and...not do much else

dodging the enemies is not hard if youve ever played any video games before

[foggy ridge]

basic trial and error. nothing too insane unless ur a danjin main in wuwa

[frail yew]

Not to make them comfortable, usable

[shy jackal]

Well, yes

Dps need ss

[exotic vessel]

elp

[shy jackal]

It pretty much is

[shadow holly]

build ur epitaph and empy so you at least have a functioning fire team, and build alisa to support solacetune next patch

[shy jackal]

However

[floral plover]

Danjin's main are built different ||(and maso quists)||

[shy jackal]

You cannot tell me that the alpha video is cooler than this

[frail yew]

So everything ss with sig 🥲

[shy jackal]

https://youtu.be/7eAjnMRUIvg

[shadow holly]

well yeah welcome to pgr

SS is one half of the character, sig is the other

you're pulling for an empty shell without those

[frail yew]

Feeeek

[glass bay]

stop telling me how to play my f2p friendly game

[floral plover]

some characters can work with sig, but it involves some problems or nuances

[shadow holly]

or sometimes even ss is not enough

but hey at least lamia solo works without her ss

[floral plover]

like Hanying can do 2 rot with 5*, but you would never get the ult to full stacks, something like that

[frail yew]

I wanna unlock their kits at the least

[wispy robin]

especially considering you never even dodge in the actual game🐴

[shadow holly]

[exotic vessel]

should i pull for their weapon too or only resonance their memories?

[frail yew]

Scuff play is getting annoying

[floral plover]

yeah sig is almost mandatory unfortunately

[shadow holly]

sure u can pull their weapons if you have like 25k bc right now

[floral plover]

so much for the "f2p gacha game"

[shadow holly]

actually better if you have 30k+
if you wanted to pull epitaph and alisa weap

[frail yew]

Okie 🥲

[shadow holly]

no point pulling empy weapon now unless ur a spender

[exotic vessel]

nah only got 5k

[shadow holly]

then you dont even have enough for the next char yet, why ask about pulling weapons

[frail yew]

I'll just have to pray harder for rngesus to not fuq me over too much

[raw swift]

Cooked

[shadow holly]

but yea thats how it is

you always prio getting new units first

then everything else

[floral plover]

trslao, how much do you think a budget of 52k bc can last with all the S ranks coming?
assuming we go for sigs

[frail yew]

I lost Lunas sig both times BTW

[vale raft]

Hanying: Solacetune <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:tank:1290614106520555571><:physical_element:1290613978057146379><:trueslash:1288090116790812712>

Main Tank Set

Usage

Main Tank/Sub-DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General Tank set
This unit has not been released on Global yet. Please take these builds with a grain of salt as they are subject to change.

Memories

4x Changwuzi
2x Patton

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Core Passive

[cursive mason]

this one is also cool

[frail yew]

For some fuqing reason I got wata sig I both my accounts when I pull on her banner

[raw swift]

Why subdps is this post selena or something

[exotic vessel]

i also got these, ig qu is the best choice from banner right? or is there a new ice dps coming?

[raw swift]

Watanabe

[shadow holly]

he has him

so yeah qu is a fine choice

[vale raft]

Wanshi: Lucid Dreamer <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:tank:1290614106520555571><:ice_element:1290613933106925638><:glaciation:1288090076001210398>

Main Tank Set

Usage

Main Tank/Sub-DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General Tank/Sub-DPS set
This unit has not been released on Global yet. Please take these builds with a grain of salt as they are subject to change.

Memories

4x Liston
2x Einsteina

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

None

[raw swift]

[shadow holly]

pls use the bot commands in the https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/663286717985456157

[raw swift]

It's so cold the air is going through my blanket

[nova forum]

So what should I use for knight & chaos lamia

Void?

[shadow holly]

could use for knight if ss luna can oneshot with ult1

otherwise ice should be better

but ig could try fast ult2 on luna too

2 3pings before ult1, 3 3pings after ult1

ss0 can only do 9 with lamia starter

need ss3 for sp delay ult2 run

so no ss0 cant do it

ss3 can

ss0 qu can do 9 though

[frail yew]

@shadow holly so the stuff you said about the teams was to unlock their kits?

[shadow holly]

uhh kinda yeah
fire in particular is in a weird place because epitaph solo is like
giga cancer
but for swap you rly want his sig and SS to do double rots properly + hyperreal desperately needs his sig, and empy wants ss + sig to make her field time worthwhile

[nova forum]

Ok got 9s on knight with void

[lusty horizon]

Cat

[shadow holly]

didnt selena have some move thats only doable with sig

also pyroath dimension slash is essential locked by ss3 because before that rank its just a waste of time

[nova forum]

W8 how much can cuckra get on knight

8s?

[shadow holly]

8

[nova forum]

Good thing I didn't save

[glass bay]

U kena judgement cut that is approaching right

[frail yew]

Well I only have empy and epitaf tho

[shadow holly]

yeah then I'd say you want empy ss + sig even more if you want to play swap
otherwise ur coping with epitaph solo until pyroath

[frail yew]

On my main account both has sig, on my alt only epitaf has sig unfortunately

[shadow holly]

but on the other hand epitaph solo works at any rank and without sig
because all of the qol stuff his sig and ranks provide are a limited amount of times per swap

well "works"

more like there isnt anything that can make it better

so its forever utter cancer unless you're playing swap

[foggy ridge]

sorry i didnt see this. its one of the affixes coming in pgr. or i think they call it effects in glb translation. very very simple terms, its more elements. newer units post hanying will recieve them on top of their main element and a select few old units from gen 2 will also get them via leap

[nova forum]

I think I'm lacking something

[foggy ridge]

wait thats not a good one can someone delete that?

[nova forum]

Can't kill lamia on knight

[shadow holly]

cottie set?

[nova forum]

Cuckra 2darwin 2cot
Glory 4cjy 2ein
Kaleido 4dv 2sam 2guin

[shadow holly]

that looks fine

are you dv'ing immediately?

[nova forum]

idk

[shadow holly]

[nova forum]

Too focus

Hol up lemme restart

Ye I can't do this kill

[shadow holly]

[river nymph]

[nova forum]

Already wasted 1s and just a quarter bar away from kill

My glory doesn't have sig Reso also

[shadow holly]

yeah i remember you dont have r1 glory but thats still weird
do you mind sending a vid

also which reso are you using on qu

[deft apex]

To me thats new

[stable steeple]

What orbs do I max out for stigmata,and do I level up her basics,I saw she basics alot? thanks

[nova forum]

6ult

[shadow holly]

weapon reso i meant

but yeah thats tough

[thorn creek]

das ma lamia

[nova forum]

w8 I think I'm still using dlt

[nova forum]

Deserved death

[thorn creek]

[shadow holly]

judging by ur orb amount that does look like dlt

[shy jackal]

[nova forum]

I might as well just use void

[shy jackal]

How'd you do worse

[nova forum]

Glory has no sig reso

And also cuz I try to speedrun

[shadow holly]

yeah ig just use void

not like it matters much in the end, tap 1.8mil and dip

[ancient path]

Making a Rozen dps team. My two others are Capriccio and Tenebrion. Is that about right, or should i switch out one of the two?

[open comet]

i gotta ask every video i see on alisa says oh just 3x3 ping ez clap but at ss and sig i cant get more than 6 if i dont switch her out immediately and come back at second rotation

[ancient path]

Unfortunately, I lack Scire

[spiral merlin]

bro

[open comet]

then why does every single video start rotation with alisa and not swap to balter right away 😓

[spiral merlin]

where are the mods

[open comet]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[spiral merlin]

goddamn

[open comet]

rexlent and spider 2b both

[hollow tulip]

😭

[open comet]

alas its what came up on youtube

[hollow tulip]

sorry it was funny so i had to say something

[sinful violet]

Should I do a 10 spin on weapon banner so I can atleast get Lunas 5 star weap cus rn she's using a 3 star weap and I'm also tryna save for next S banner

[open comet]

for a new player you can see how thats juts a bunch of gobblygook tho

[sinful violet]

Wdyn

[river nymph]

the what

nah

[hollow tulip]

xeno

yooooooooooooooooooooooo

[gentle cedar]

Why can't I level this when I have materials?

[soft anchor]

is there a way to obtain skins for free? i never cared about skins but i saw this one and i immediatly want it

😦

[sinful violet]

Oh not yet which one should I do

[onyx palm]

don't have enough of the purple memory upgrade things

[gentle cedar]

[sinful violet]

So any boss?

[shy jackal]

Can only get via rc for this one

[sinful violet]

Does nightmare drop more stuff tho

[soft anchor]

hey guys was there character like 2A and 2B? i remember them being in game

[shadow holly]

yes they're in the game but theyre unobtainable since theyre collab chars

[soft anchor]

but people who have them can use them?

[shadow holly]

ofc

tf bro turned chinese

hwo do u skip free units

[knotty oak]

Guys I'm a returning player should I restart or keep my acc?

[sinful violet]

Is there a way to choose the weapon drop?

[soft anchor]

yeah i remember that. thats why i asked bcs i havent seen them in characthers

[deft apex]

search bilibili chinese apk

[pine slate]

Nah

Lingya gives 8% edb after active skill is used

I didnt use active skill in my run, u need 2x3p for it

[sand laurel]

it does

[deft apex]

u finally got in? gg

[nova forum]

Should I stock 2 weeks worth of serum or just go caveman moment and use all for this patch

[knotty oak]

Should I save or pull?