📨・meta-help

[shadow holly]

[lean pulsar]

@woven haven Do you have spider2b misinfo counter for the solacetune vid?

[woven haven]

can't believe i went to wuwa to escape affixes and they put affixes there too

[abstract heron]

everyone does i think

[shadow holly]

hey at least wuwa statuses are actually bound to their element

[woven haven]

nope i ain't watching that garbage trash misinfo sh*itter

[zenith thorn]

you and affix are synonymous

[opaque ridge]

i love wuwa

[shadow holly]

[abstract heron]

let me do it for you

[zenith kernel]

I know misinformation but I can't stop watching
Smh

@ashen edge where my 260w

[opaque ridge]

i got this last night

but then it got ruined by HP%

[ashen edge]

gib acc

[zenith kernel]

Dm

[ashen edge]

ill just send u a login link later

[zenith kernel]

Send it to rydle since it's his acc

[ashen edge]

@distant wren n

[dawn cloak]

~~ nice CW cub ~~

[dapper skiff]

Oh mb

Was kinda high

[abstract heron]

it's ok tho

[dapper skiff]

[opaque ridge]

top isnt HT'd

[distant wren]

[abstract heron]

spider 2b is burning something with that guide

[wide parcel]

are special support tokens used for anthing good? if not, can i use them for resonane rerolling??

[abstract heron]

ew

[woven haven]

not 12ht

[distant wren]

Bruh stop giving him views

[woven haven]

kill him
but don't tell me what garbage he spouted i don't wanna hear

[dapper skiff]

Global Alisa has no rights

Doesn't deserve 12ht yet

Also quite surprised my perfect reso guin Alisa set is actually gonna be useful

[spiral merlin]

49s for misinfo

[abstract heron]

i'm counting the misinfo

and well

[spiral merlin]

New record perhaps

[abstract heron]

it's big as hanying

[distant wren]

What did he say

[dapper skiff]

Ngl, I didn't even watched his wata and Luna video to see the misinfo

Ngl, hanying is quite jancky

[distant wren]

He's gonna burn down the neighborhood again with affix

[abstract heron]

my brain is melting, 9 mins in and already have so much misinfo

[dapper skiff]

With the SS skill passive, you can easily waste orb pings without even realizing

[distant wren]

Just don't mash

[dapper skiff]

It just eats your ping when you did additional tap

[spiral merlin]

You need to commit to the hold ult or else you’ll probably lose an extra 3p yeah

[zenith kernel]

Oh brother

[dapper skiff]

I'm still off for her ult timings man

[zenith kernel]

Spider😔

[abstract heron]

ss build with 4pc chan 2pc cottie

[distant wren]

Yeah you need to know beforehand when to use ult

[distant wren]

For swap? Lmao

[solar pier]

Is this better than her sig set?

[zenith kernel]

He's single handedly carrying my top 100wz
He can have the 1 view

[dapper skiff]

Her Aline set only boost dmg, it has 0 support passive

So at this point, it's better to use support set for her

[livid lark]

i mean it's not wrong to run that without harmo

2 patton is worse than that

[vale raft]

Patton ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

ATK increases by 3%. Physical DMG increases by 7%.

4pc Set Bonus

Extra DMG Bonus increases by 10%. Attacking a target inflicts them with Laceration, which decreases the target's Physical Resistance by 7%. Laceration lasts for 8s and has a 10s cooldown against the same target. Attacking a target inflicted with Laceration causes an explosion that deals 600% Physical DMG. This effect has a 6s cooldown against the same target.

ATK

132

CRIT

67

DEF

223

HP

1453

[solar pier]

Ur totally sure right?

[zenith thorn]

[vale raft]

Aline ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

Extra DMG Bonus increases by 5% and Ice DMG increases by 5%.

4pc Set Bonus

Base DMG of Pure Color: Theme Emphasis and Color Mix: Clash of Concepts increases by 50%. Base DMG of Vibrant Brushstroke increases by 80%.

ATK

132

CRIT

66

DEF

223

HP

1491

[woven haven]

read it

[dapper skiff]

Well why would I answer ur question if I wasn't sure myself

[dapper skiff]

Cottie hanying op tho

[ebon adder]

does hanying need sig?

[abstract heron]

yes

[zenith kernel]

"need" no
"Prefer"
Yes

"Meta"
This shouldn't be a question

[abstract heron]

uhm, bianca with voltaire

[distant wren]

Lmao 4 cottie with ss0 swap

[ebon adder]

i remember kurai wanted to cook some ss 5* zaza

[dapper skiff]

Let him cook ||the noobs|| 🗣️🗣️

[dapper skiff]

That video was SS0 5* hanying

Wanna see s0 5* one?

[ebon adder]

so it is usable?

[dapper skiff]

I got u

[zenith kernel]

I did not think I'd see Cottie Hanying

[ebon adder]

yes please

[dapper skiff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1337119944860766229/homeless_invest_hanying.mp4?ex=67a843bd&is=67a6f23d&hm=5f2d494ab4e2616d39f53ee7ee58954ee37d4901b6928d5906649b5ce6528785&

[mighty tusk]

does he have qu btw?

[zenith kernel]

Bianca ppc bot let's go
We floating with this one 😔

[ebon adder]

is this the build to go?

[dapper skiff]

Lmao nah

[ashen edge]

[zenith kernel]

Don't brick your acc pls

[spiral merlin]

Going full support sets for hanying main dps is something

[ebon adder]

mb

[dapper skiff]

Spider2b is just yapping at this point

[spiral merlin]

Idt she has the dmg to justify that

[dapper skiff]

He doesn't get his thing checked

He just post what he believed

[mighty tusk]

I'd rather use rosetta

[zenith kernel]

Cottie 2p why?

[ebon adder]

eh ill just wait till i get hanying and then ill ask build again here, is that okay?

[distant wren]

Does he actually specify when to use voltaire
Because if he recommends that when hanying is ss0+sig+cwz and balter has cath already 💀

[dapper skiff]

That works too

[zenith kernel]

That's why I'm not scrapping her sig yet

[spiral merlin]

He says it’s ppc set

[dapper skiff]

By the time u come back here, we would already have the set perfectly sync with global rights

[mighty tusk]

ppc set

[spiral merlin]

Clearly for hanying solo main dps

[mighty tusk]

skych it seems

[distant wren]

Bro def shred is already 100% wtf is voltaire gonna do

[mighty tusk]

then again, rosetta exists

[ebon adder]

okayy thanks kurailao

[zenith kernel]

Ppc
But atp just use double amp

[dapper skiff]

Why would he still bring balter to solo hanying when sss eclipse buff or storm exists

[mighty tusk]

4 patton 4 dv rigor

4 cottie 4 chang hanying

[abstract heron]

solo hanying on ppc bosses

[ebon adder]

is this sarcasm or should i start getting shars for sss eclipse and storm

[dapper skiff]

Maybe

[ebon adder]

[zenith kernel]

Padoru padoru

[distant wren]

Sss eclipse does actually have a separate 5% phys buff tho

[dapper skiff]

Well sss eclipse is in fact useful for hanying dps even when you already have Alisa with her

Eclipse buff doesn't get overwritten by Alisa's

[vale raft]

Mei Wu <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:physical_element:1290613978057146379>

Damage, Crowd Control

**Passive Skills**

Spring Steps

Mei Wu's Active Skills deal 70% more DMG.

Fragrant verse

Increases the ATK of Mei Wu's carrier by 100.

Intoxicated by Flowers

Upon activating Mei Wu's Active Skills, the carrier's Extra DMG Bonus will increase by 5% for 8s. Duration resets every time it is triggered.

Daffodil's Song

Increases the carrier's Physical DMG by 10%.

Moonlight Upon Thy Visage

When Hanying: Solacetune activates Moonsong Realm or triggers Phoenix Down while carrying Mei Wu, Mei Wu is summoned to perform a coordinated attack, dealing 1250% Physical DMG twice. CRIT DMG of Azure Allure and Sublimity increases by 75%.

[dapper skiff]

And storm with 5* weapon help more with phys def reduction

[vale raft]

Liv: Eclipse

Skill - SSS

Battlefield Analysis

When Liv: Eclipse is not in battle, teammates that are currently in battle gain the Battlefield Analysis effect that increases their Physical DMG by 10%.

[dapper skiff]

It's 10

[distant wren]

Oh it's 10% and permanent too

[ebon adder]

alisa and rosetta <<<<< sss eclipse and storm

[zenith kernel]

I need to SSS her
Dunno why I haven't yet, fake Liv fan
Smh

[ebon adder]

[spiral merlin]

Doesn’t that go away when Liv qte is being used

[dapper skiff]

It does yeh

But only on qte

[spiral merlin]

💀

[dapper skiff]

The reset when she does ult gets it

[distant wren]

Lmao anti qte

[zenith kernel]

Wadafuk?

[spiral merlin]

Mid as hell but it’s still something ig

[zenith thorn]

ok so what does ppc phys looks like

[dapper skiff]

Still better than whatever balter has

[abstract heron]

man, he said that her cub crit damage increase isn't "super useful utility"

[dapper skiff]

Plus she can proc Philip and Richelieu

[zenith kernel]

He said this about Luna cub and i had to pause the video.

Cub skippers wondering why Hanying isn't doing big damage like the dalaos

[zenith thorn]

in guessing we running hanying rigor a d alisa ppc?

[pulsar gazelle]

What harmony should I use on Crimson Weave weapon?

[dapper skiff]

R1 rigor sure

[distant wren]

Then they're gonna say that they wish they had skipped her

[dapper skiff]

Alisa holds dlt, rigor shred

[zenith kernel]

1r Ros so Hanying uses 2 DPS reso

Cooking

[zenith thorn]

my rose is r1 anyway:sleep:

[zenith kernel]

But Shred becomes universal next patch so technically we could use any 1r tank for the 8%

[distant wren]

4DV 2 lantern rose

[ebon adder]

ehhh really?

[zenith thorn]

maybe harmo rigor wasnt so bad afterall

[zenith kernel]

And Leeuwenhoek doesn't stack
So I guess Rosetta isn't completely necessary?

[zenith kernel]

Unless you're this guy
Wadafuk

[zenith thorn]

i didn't btw dw

[zenith kernel]

Oh

[spiral merlin]

I’ve seen worse harmos

[zenith kernel]

Yeah

[spiral merlin]

[abstract heron]

"hanying will be on the field for the entire wz run"

[zenith kernel]

Chrome Harmo

[distant wren]

Rose sig has separate 20% def shred

[spiral merlin]

Nah at least chrome is meta

[abstract heron]

he's cooking

[distant wren]

So if you're just gonna hold 4dv 2 lantern no need harmo

Cause no need catherine

[zenith kernel]

It wouldn't become 120% with Hangings def shred no?
It's still lance of perception?

[distant wren]

Not lance of perception

[vale raft]

gungir is not a valid weapon name. Please try again.

[zenith kernel]

Gungnir?

[distant wren]

It's separate that stack with hanying's

[vale raft]

Gungnir ★★★★★★

Everlasting Brilliance

Damaging a target will reduce their Physical DEF by 20% for 8s. The duration is refreshed each time this effect is triggered. Dealing damage with small/medium/wide-area electromagnetic beam also applies a damage over time effect for 8s, dealing Physical DMG equal to 25% / 50% / 100% of ATK every second.

ATK

458

CRIT

230

Spear Shield

[distant wren]

Hanying has 80%

[abstract heron]

physical element resist shred

physical element

[dapper skiff]

Hanying shred is same as roset shred

[zenith kernel]

She has 100 at SS0 no?

[dapper skiff]

With cath

And sig

[distant wren]

80 only

[dapper skiff]

And sig mems

And ss

[zenith kernel]

Because Cath?
Cath applies regardless

[distant wren]

Outside cath it's just 80, which is why gungnir made cath unnecessary

[zenith kernel]

So the 20% shouldn't affect anything

[dapper skiff]

Base def shred 20
Sig mems boost to 40
SS boost it to 60
Sig gives 20 more

[distant wren]

#📨・meta-help message

Max is 100% already

[zenith kernel]

Aight

[dapper skiff]

Tf u mean hanying not on her sig mem for ppc

[rocky wedge]

pretty high i mean shred reso is also strong

[abstract heron]

spider 2b thinks that physical is a element

[mighty tusk]

cottie

[dapper skiff]

Her sig mem is the dps mem

Why u wouldn't have it

Wym niche strat

She is the dps

😭

[distant wren]

Aether said there are some clears using that
But it's extremely niche i think, i don't see that build in setsu sheet

[mighty tusk]

depends

[frail yew]

Heeeeey, how do I get those aura things for leaping constructs, a cheep way because straight event currency is ridiculously expensive

[radiant palm]

does harmony go higher than one?

[carmine reef]

no

[vivid spear]

Which one? for lamia lost lullaby weapon

[mighty tusk]

you don't, it's leftover beta they forgot to remove

[woven haven]

he’s right

[vale raft]

Changwuzi ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

Physical DMG increases by 10%.

4pc Set Bonus

Base DMG of Harmonics Orb increases by 100%. Piercing Strike effect applied by Hanying: Solacetune increases by 20%. Upon exiting Moonsong Realm, the area of effect will continue to last for 12s, dealing 50% Physical DMG to enemies once every second.

ATK

132

CRIT

66

DEF

223

HP

1491

[zenith kernel]

Yeah, but unless Ros another memory besides Cath, Cath would still apply 20% making it 100% total with Hanyings 80%
This would mean the sig wouldn't be a difference unless you have 1r for the res shred

[woven haven]

if you’ll see there

hanying sig mem doesn’t actually boost dmg

[vale raft]

Catherine ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

QTE and 3-Ping skills reduce the target's Physical DEF by 20% for 8s. 10s cooldown.

4pc Set Bonus

When taking damage, gains a shield worth 1,000 HP and increases Physical DMG of self by 15% for 5s. 8s cooldown.

ATK

135

CRIT

66

DEF

228

HP

1491

[woven haven]

Guys you’re all fighting over the wrong thing
rosetta sig wep + hanying is for no sig mem hanying ppc kills you bozos

[mighty tusk]

4 patton 4 cottie hanying?

[zenith kernel]

Ah

Well that makes sense ig

[zenith kernel]

We aren't fighting
We're having a very civilized discussion about Booba.

[distant wren]

Lantern

[spiral merlin]

4cath 4darwin

[zenith kernel]

[mighty tusk]

[abstract heron]

@dapper skiff @zenith kernel @distant wren

[frail yew]

4 Patton 4 sig mem lol

[zenith kernel]

Apparently Hanying doesn't sig mem all the time so it applies

[zenith kernel]

:lmaocrywhyamialivekms:

what

[distant wren]

Lol

[zenith kernel]

[buoyant hornet]

She runs dlt in wz at ss0 right?

[distant wren]

Oh yeah setsu build has this but

Sss0 and higher only

[abstract heron]

my brain has turned into a milkshake now

[zenith kernel]

No rights

[zenith kernel]

[zenith kernel]

Karenina ember Harmo?

Only thing worse would be changyu Harmo

[sly geyser]

the 4 cath part is inexcusable

even if it was a joke

[spiral merlin]

Even changyu harmo is honestly not terrible

[zenith kernel]

When will Kuro rework 4 Eins and Cath
They're bloody useless

[spiral merlin]

Then I did my job well

[zenith kernel]

What could be worse

[sly geyser]

[spiral merlin]

Uniframes

[rocky wedge]

im not sure which would be better with r1, its possible to use patton without but the rotation will most likely be slower like shake wata without dlt but a bit worse

[distant wren]

Rework all 2pc shred mems to not have hard cd first
Have them be on separate enemy cd

[zenith kernel]

Ok, that makes sense
Qu pavo Harmo

[spiral merlin]

[buoyant hornet]

What do you normally run on ss0 han?

[zenith kernel]

The 4 mems rework do this perfectly
I need this to apply to Eins

[sly geyser]

sig cath if no sig

[distant wren]

Yeah which is why, eins cath gloria voltaire need it too

[buoyant hornet]

I'm planning to harmo but yeah this sounds good for 5*

[abstract heron]

@woven haven This was one of the worst ideas I've had in years.

[sly geyser]

if u planning to harmo then sig pat

[rocky wedge]

patton

[abstract heron]

i should have spent the blue banner selector on CW

[dawn folio]

Is oblivion's SSS compared to SS3 a significant upgrade or is it "just a bit more dmg" and not much else?

[sly geyser]

a significant upgrade

[distant wren]

just saw this now

[abstract heron]

it's a significant damage buff

[sly geyser]

sss is damage buff ?

[vale raft]

Luna: Oblivion

Skill - SSS

Forged Universe

Level 1 - Unlocked at SS3

Base DMG of Signature - Lunar Downfall increases by 20%. Triggering Dodge automatically upon being hit in Reaping Moon will grant 20 Crescent Points. Void Dissipation can also dodge incoming attacks, and dodging successfully will grant 6 Finality Orbs.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SSS

The number of Eclipse Points obtained doubles, and the max capacity increases to 600 Points. When casting Signature - Finality, every Signal Orb pinged amplifies the Base DMG of Signature - Finality by 40%, up to 240%. When Luna: Oblivion is in Main Sequence/Finality, her Base DMG dealt to Equilibrium Field increases by 150% instead.

[mighty tusk]

also void shield shred faster iirc

[zenith kernel]

Spider said Cottie :Lmaocry:

[sly geyser]

Spider made a video about hanying already?

[zenith kernel]

Ye

[vale raft]

Hanying: Solacetune <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:tank:1290614106520555571><:physical_element:1290613978057146379><:trueslash:1288090116790812712>

Main Tank Set

Usage

Main Tank/Sub-DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General Tank set
This unit has not been released on Global yet. Please take these builds with a grain of salt as they are subject to change.

Memories

4x Changwuzi
2x Patton

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Core Passive

[abstract heron]

don't watch it

[sly geyser]

I don't usually watch pgr content other than rotation videos on YouTube anyway

[sly geyser]

uploading it so fast, why even ?

[mighty tusk]

"kinda"

prob should have also specified that she does not work with luna

[livid lark]

money

[abstract heron]

should i cast punch?

[sly geyser]

oh yeah I forgot that part

[distant wren]

I mean he didn't even bother anymore and just uploaded his livestream footage

Mf's just in it for money now

[sly geyser]

I'm still trying to process this zaza

[tight tangle]

First to upload = more view = more money?

[sly geyser]

4 dv 2 voltaire 2 cath...

on balter

[distant wren]

Surely def shred can go beyond 100% right ?

[zenith thorn]

PHYSICAL ELEMENT

[zenith kernel]

101% or brick

[zenith thorn]

can he actually fact check his sh*t once

[tight tangle]

Fact check need time so no

[sly geyser]

he should've put his zaza into work smh

[zenith kernel]

Ah yes
My favorite element
Brick to face

[distant wren]

Can't hear you over money

[zenith thorn]

what money can he even earn from pgr content

[zenith kernel]

I'm gonna lose it if I see a Cottie Hanying player in wz

[sly geyser]

money call always so strong fr

[zenith thorn]

10 pennies?

[sly geyser]

I mean I think cc like spider are more fit for larger audiences

[rocky wedge]

u can do that for solo han

[zenith thorn]

of course he is

but at the same time integrity is important

and what he lacking is integrity

[sly geyser]

wasting my SS3 Bianca for solo han... is that even efficient?

[rocky wedge]

but u should probably run lantern instead if one has it cause max def shred is hit

[gritty coyote]

is Daren gonna get powercrept anytime soon? Or she's still worth investing into? Cause I have the S-rank selector and I'm unsure who to choose

[distant wren]

If she's missing sig tho, with sig def shred would cap with cath already

[abstract heron]

my favorite spell too, the omni element punch

[rocky wedge]

bianca should be poverty invest if u are gonna do that

[zenith kernel]

[sly geyser]

integrity ? what tf even is that ?

[rocky wedge]

without lantern there isnt really much else to use

[sly geyser]

just throw ur video

[gritty coyote]

for my dark team I'm currently using SSS No.21

[sly geyser]

and watch it stonk

📈

[zenith thorn]

something our GOVER-

[woven haven]

just more 50%~ dmg
its not worth it compared to other sss
and her ss3 was useless in the first place

[tight tangle]

Dunno cant see the future

[distant wren]

I suppose, but then again he said to use it on balter which is...why lol
Just use storm with her 5* then

[rocky wedge]

🥹

[gritty coyote]

I'm just asking for advice

[peak halo]

Like mine s0 r0

[rocky wedge]

there is a bomb in my pants

[analog cargo]

[woven haven]

Oblivion SSS is basically just 50-60% more dmg

[dapper skiff]

Also no one reads

[zenith kernel]

7 minute warzone run Soon?

[woven haven]

but its just dmg

[rocky wedge]

yes s0 is automatic poverty

[woven haven]

no useful passive increase

[woven haven]

good luck and goodbye

[abstract heron]

helo yuri!

[analog cargo]

[carmine reef]

yuri

[abstract heron]

I am scared of wanshi's guide by spider 2b

[sly geyser]

why u scared ?

[abstract heron]

that's going to be a curse

[sly geyser]

just don't gib him views

[analog cargo]

ive seen way worst

[dapper skiff]

Can't

[sly geyser]

uninstall YouTube

[dapper skiff]

Global people need someone to spoofed them about new units so they can retain elite

[sly geyser]

[zenith thorn]

what set does wanshi and shukra use?

[dapper skiff]

Spider gone = no more noobs in hero to dunk on

[zenith kernel]

Me when he says "wanshi cub isn't that useful, but it is nice to have"

[sly geyser]

I heard qukra go for chen dw

[mighty tusk]

shukra can hold 4 cottie/2 chej 2 dar/4 chej, pick your poison

[analog cargo]

setsugekwa harmo guide

[mighty tusk]

wanshi stuck with 4 chej

[sly geyser]

[peak halo]

Sadly ca felt better to use cuz i can put on her 4 patton
i can got useable invest her when trueslash appears
And selena maybe on the corner
So i literaly no had time to use her on phys

[abstract heron]

wanshi: 4pc sig 4pc chen qu: 4pc sig 2pc chen 2pc dw

[zenith thorn]

2chej 2dar is the maldy one roght

im going to k*ll myself

[sly geyser]

so it's a good strategy overall

[mighty tusk]

you can just go 4 cottie then

[zenith kernel]

Single handedly carrying my ability to dunk on whels

[zenith thorn]

nono i want to kms

[sly geyser]

4 cot can be something

[analog cargo]

why didd spider not talk about float phys dmg

[mighty tusk]

fine by me, that means selena is mine

[analog cargo]

its so cool

[dawn folio]

Is there a tier list for dupes somewhere? Like if you have some extra bc, who has the most valuable SSS and who has the most "meh~"?

[sly geyser]

he's talking to ||casuals||

[mighty tusk]

edb + superarmor

[analog cargo]

casuals dont understnad how shred works

[mighty tusk]

why aim for sss? you f2p?

[analog cargo]

and the way hes saying,means nothing

[sly geyser]

exactly

[zenith kernel]

Eh...

[sly geyser]

dumb cc for dumb audience

[zenith thorn]

what about fury

[analog cargo]

i miss fury

[sly geyser]

fury's ego is just so damn big and fragile

[dawn folio]

i mean getting SS3 you just need 1 extra dupe plus pain cage so its easy? And no, im not f2p

[zenith kernel]

Fury bricked my 21
I'm gonna 彼に触れて

[zenith thorn]

I don't read noodles

[dapper skiff]

I already hate hanying even with 0 rng on her orb

[zenith kernel]

I'm gonna touch him

[analog cargo]

fury making a bad build and saying "cuz i wnat it "

[sly geyser]

lmao

[zenith kernel]

Float is that bad?

[zenith thorn]

chad fr

[sly geyser]

best days

[zenith kernel]

Oh no

[analog cargo]

i remember the tenebrion incident

[dapper skiff]

No

It just her rot

[livid lark]

it's あいつを触れろ

[zenith kernel]

Fury put SSS Wanshi at tier 2 and SSS CW at tier 1 in his crap tier list 😭

[analog cargo]

tier lists are pretty cringe

[zenith kernel]

Man, I don't speak noodles
I just Google translate

[analog cargo]

only good tier list,is jeremey player tier list

[dapper skiff]

It's wata red but less spam able and no limits if u already done enough core

And u can simply burn all 10 orbs before even realizing it

[zenith kernel]

[dapper skiff]

On 1st rot btw

[raw swift]

Wth does float phys mean

[pine slate]

how about human - construct compatibility tier list

[zenith kernel]

Kek

[raw swift]

Murray probably

[zenith kernel]

It quite literally means the maximum amount of damage you do is Rng on whether it'll be big dm or not

And it's bloody 50/50

[shadow mica]

Windbell:
S Tier - Pulao

[raw swift]

[abstract heron]

@zenith kernel

[zenith kernel]

"but not insane"

[analog cargo]

@shadow holly what happend to the cc that i got muted for saying bad things about him

[zenith kernel]

[sly geyser]

Jesus Christ

Hiro needs a medal tbh

for supporting this for minutes

[abstract heron]

@analog cargo nice needy girl overdose pfp

[solar prairie]

are there any weekly shop resets i should be aware of?

[sly geyser]

no

[rocky wedge]

this thing is actually kinda needed

[sly geyser]

there's no weekly shop reset in this game

[solar prairie]

oh alright ty

[rocky wedge]

without it i dont think she can pull mobs to her that she ends up far away from in wz

[hollow tulip]

has aethervoid spoken here in the past hr?

[rocky wedge]

and then her ult 2 last hit will miss which is a lot of dmg

[hollow tulip]

if not
@woven haven

[analog cargo]

failed cc

[zenith kernel]

"no useful utility" he says

[analog cargo]

[abstract heron]

the last thing he said tho was about daren leap

and i can't take it

[hollow tulip]

when i come backim gonna change the landscape of rhe pgr cc scene yet again

[abstract heron]

i'm dead inside

[hazy sandal]

May I introduce the butterfly wave deleting bug

[rocky wedge]

wait wuh

[analog cargo]

bring back alpha frame and global is saved

[hazy sandal]

[sly geyser]

why torturing urself bro

[abstract heron]

it's for a greater good

[hollow tulip]

she's tirred of carrying this game

[rocky wedge]

what was said about that

[zenith kernel]

[surreal nest]

make a full team of just lucias

[sly geyser]

u can make two of them (if including alpha)

[analog cargo]

gold days of pgr was like 4 people doing the ppc sheets

even i contributed to the ss ppc sheet one time

azerys

[rocky wedge]

ss3 han is incoming 😭

[zenith thorn]

ong liveavle ts

[hollow tulip]

make pgr great again

[zenith thorn]

woah last time someone said that...

[abstract heron]

so, it's "worthless" until pyroath comes

[analog cargo]

azerys and shingetsu carrying ss sheet

shingetsu was like,rly good at ppc and he just dissapeared

[abstract heron]

irrelevant by thy mouth

[rocky wedge]

it is kinda at SS xD

ion content only comes from lucia patch

[iron orbit]

Hey, I'm a returning player and I wanna know if pgr is worth it to return to.

[rocky wedge]

but her SSS adds more dark shred so that is pretty big

[abstract heron]

you should become a second shingetsu then

[zenith kernel]

@distant wren your fire score will go up if you build your Lingya skills :trustmebro:

[abstract heron]

make ppc sheets like crazy

[analog cargo]

ppc is disgusting

i did wz and guild quite a lot

[abstract heron]

i could help you with some results and scores with a poor investment (s5)

and human rights (ss or ss3)

[analog cargo]

ppc should be removed from teh game

[abstract heron]

true

anyway

i'm going to mald on ballard again

[nova forum]

Should I build 6class dv for watank

[ionic totem]

you can remove yourself

[abstract heron]

no

wth

don't whale react me

i'm poor

[nova forum]

@dapper skiff

[zenith kernel]

.....?
Whut
No

[nova forum]

🗿

[zenith kernel]

I mean, if you wanna ig?

[dapper skiff]

Lucia patch man

He's still fire dps now

Sig needed

[nova forum]

It's just the dv memo

[solar prairie]

very important question
how do i get new portraits in this game 😭

losing my mind looking at the default one

[iron orbit]

Is pgr worth returning to?

[mighty tusk]

depends on what you're after

[glass bay]

No

[mighty tusk]

[hollow tulip]

what happened to them

[glass bay]

[mighty tusk]

🥝 ?

[nova forum]

[hollow tulip]

shin prolly got tired

[hollow tulip]

ply

prly*

[solar prairie]

should i buy these

[simple dew]

when theres a higher discount

[gritty coyote]

is Empyrea's leap worth it?

if she's used as support, more for QTEs

[carmine mesa]

If you are f2p, no, your vouchers are much too valuable

[solar prairie]

oh okay

[glass bay]

Even whel don't buy this

Wait wtf wooly

U in my bracket

2x now

[carmine mesa]

So, preparing the physical team for Hanying, Phillip for Alisa, and Cathrine goes on Bianca.
Right?

[carmine mesa]

Hiya, my rare EU brother

[glass bay]

[nova forum]

No harmo on alisa?

[glass bay]

U know I'm gonna gap u right

[carmine mesa]

She is Harmonized.

[glass bay]

Wooly is whel

Don't underestimate

[nova forum]

[ebon adder]

uhh theres a serum limit???

i wanted to stockpile 6k but looks like i cant...

[simple dew]

sadly there is

[ebon adder]

what is it?

[carmine mesa]

Eh, there are guys with 3S Bianca and Loona in our bracket, I'm surprised we are as high as we are

[simple dew]

5k

[ebon adder]

oh is it based on level or just 5k the max

[glass bay]

All top 6 are 3s balter right

[simple dew]

p sure everyone has the 5k limit

[ebon adder]

damn my alts cant get 6k for the returnee event then ill settle for less

[ebon adder]

thankss

[simple dew]

[glass bay]

I'm the only ss0 in top 6 iirc

[carmine mesa]

I'm still coping with SS3r0, guess they are sleeping in today

[mighty tusk]

oya?

[carmine mesa]

Selena patch spalsh art?

[mighty tusk]

an off-line event more like

[glass bay]

I find that phys is the element where I cannot surpass the rank gap

[ebon adder]

btw is there a way to delete an account?

[carmine mesa]

Oh, pretty

[glass bay]

Others closer

[mighty tusk]

now we're waiting for cat fights

[glass bay]

Selena cooked

[carmine mesa]

You can manage waves better, but that only gives you an extra wave or three, depending on fluc

[ebon adder]

or am i supposed to ask this at tech support?

[carmine mesa]

Why would you want to delete an account?

[glass bay]

Tbh in this round alisa was giga brick

[zenith kernel]

Contrary
Rank Gaap is easier to clap with phys imo

[ebon adder]

uhh i made a new account but i somehow reduced the tutorial to ashes

[glass bay]

Are u sure?

[ebon adder]

so its just level 1 without guiding me where to go

[glass bay]

Void ice fire dark I can get 1st versus sss players

Ask wooly he has seen

Phys I have never done it

[carmine mesa]

Yeah, I noticed that getting Alis's rotation done was harder then usual

[lost hamlet]

How are people doing Babel in like 10 seconds

[glass bay]

Omegawhel

[lost hamlet]

That's the thing - the top rankers aren't even maxed

[carmine mesa]

Built and old accounts, abuse time stop to ignore level mechanics

[zenith kernel]

SS3 1r Stigmata

No 7 phys in sea hero rn, everybody above this has a massive invest Gaap, and those below are also SSS
It's easier imo

[glass bay]

The hp breakeven.... Optimally u wana swap out fast but if alisa bricked u cant

That's sss rose and alisa

[distant wren]

are you on mine rn?

[lost hamlet]

Like top ranker currently in Global finished Babel 1 in 9 seconds

even with time stop, that seems impossible

[livid lark]

yea cos they are whales

[lost hamlet]

they're not though

[zenith kernel]

Nah, I don't usually play at this time
Fel said he wanted to try for 260w on yours
Did he do it?

[lost hamlet]

they only have 1 SSS+

[carmine mesa]

You don't need 3Sr3 characters for babel, SS is more then enough if all you want is the rewards and collectible

[distant wren]

nope he didn't

[zenith kernel]

2s Rosetta can be 50k higher
I outscore alot of SSS players with this, and this was second tap

[carmine mesa]

Not much help tbh, I found that only two swaps was best this week, mostly to pop mister butler with double ult

[distant wren]

maybe i'll try my phys again later to see if i can kill roseblade w12 early
well if i feel like it, float is cancer

[glass bay]

And compared to void? Or even others

[zenith kernel]

Last week mob zone with Stigmata weather

Significantly higher invest than me

Oops wrong screenshot

[carmine mesa]

[zenith kernel]

Well void has shield bricks which you can't get over without proper routing so it usually hard caps runs
But phys is the team that seems to have the least forgivable use of vad qte, which leads to many players who dunno how to Qte properly ending up with lower scores than they could possibly get

This leads to better qte management=higher score even at lower invest

[vital nova]

is it better to use core or class memo reso for ss3 scire?

[zenith kernel]

Here, I outscored an SSS player that usually outscores me by a significant margent because he probably couldn't qte probably due to mob zones

[carmine mesa]

Class.
With 4 Boone, 4 Bathlon

[livid lark]

which mode?

[vital nova]

uhh what mode?

[livid lark]

wz or ppc

[zenith kernel]

Another example is Nityanka, he has 281w in phys rn
Which is dangerously close to An S+ Stigmata player

[carmine mesa]

I think it was last week, where one archer kept on surviving no matter what I did

[zenith kernel]

And that's with 2s3 Stigmata

[livid lark]

you can go class ofc it's not really an issue but like if you're onfielding using core also makes sense unless my build is outdated lmao

[glass bay]

I think skill gap with qu and shakes wata will affect high rank players alot more

[zenith kernel]

Yeah, most quit due to the stress
But In my case I managed to kill the archer that was bricking my run, which lead to me doing significant damage to wave 19

[glass bay]

Anyway in my exp in EU it's impossible to overcome the rank gap in phys specifically

[zenith kernel]

Ergo 229w

[glass bay]

Light is also hard

[zenith kernel]

Eh, EU players suck at phys

[carmine mesa]

That was me
I couldn't take it any more

[glass bay]

Then why they score well lol

[zenith kernel]

[glass bay]

[zenith kernel]

They don't
Trust me, only the real tops score well💀
Their invest and scores are disproportional

Brb, lemme show you somn

[glass bay]

They don't hit ceiling for rank but it's worse with other ele

[true pivot]

good lord, those are some insane scores

would it be worth to ht alisa since she will still be in swap when hanying and selena comes?

[vernal portal]

finally got epitapth

[zenith kernel]

This is the current top 20 phys EU
I am Not supposed to be up here, my Rosetta is 2s and my stigmata is 2s3 2r
Everybody above me except for Nityanka has full SSS phys(he has S+ Rosett), our scores aren't even supposed to be this close
This run was my second run of the week too
The investment Gaap with phys, if it did make a significant diff, would have ended up in me being gapped by alot

On the other hand, fire and Dark are very forgiving invest wise

I don't outscore fire players nor dark players because their damage scaling is so chonks that being more skilled doesn't make up for the gap

45% shred on Wata pretty much turns everything into paper for example ┐⁠(⁠￣⁠ヘ⁠￣⁠)⁠┌

[zenith kernel]

Glaciation, True slash and phys
Yeah worth, especially if you don't have 3s Hanying
She'll be on field for a while

[true pivot]

pongers

[pliant rose]

Will we get two limited banner lucid dreamer and solacetune?

[zenith thorn]

yes

[distant wren]

glacio is kinda funny lol
she uses dv set while still being a subdps

[vale raft]

Alisa: Echo

Skill - Leap

Ceaseless Strings

[Core Passive - Echoing Twins] New Effect: Glaciation.
Certain skills fill the Glaciation Gauge. When full, the Gauge will clear itself and unleash Diamond Dust, dealing Hiemal DMG and accumulating a Diamond Dust stack. Casting an eligible skill will consume all Diamond Dust stacks and create an Ice Spike that deals Hiemal DMG to its surroundings.

If the character deals Hiemal DMG while the Ice Spike is on-field, triggers Crystallization, dealing additional Hiemal DMG and generating Glaciation points.

When the Ice Spike's on-field duration expires, triggers Icebreak, dealing Hiemal DMG based on the current Glaciation points. The Glaciation Gauge, Diamond Dust stacks, Ice Spike, and Glaciation points will carry over between characters with the Glaciation Affix.

• When Glaciation points reaches 100, unleashes Diamond Dust that deals 100% Hiemal DMG and accumulates 1 Diamond Dust stack, up to 10 stacks.
• If there is at least 1 Diamond Dust stack, certain skills can clear all Diamond Dust stacks and create an Ice Spike on-field, dealing 180% Hiemal DMG. The Ice Spike's duration increases by 1s for every Diamond Dust stack consumed.
• While the Ice Spike exists, if the character deals Hiemal DMG, triggers Crystallization, dealing 100% Hiemal DMG to enemies in a large area and generating 100 Glaciation points. Can be triggered once every 0.25s.
• When the Ice Spike's duration expires, triggers Icebreak to deal 100% Hiemal DMG to enemies in a large area. Base DMG of Icebreak increases by 9% for every 100 Glaciation points. The maximum Glaciation points is 10000.

When Judgement Zone is not active, Echo can hold Dodge to fire a Frigid Arrow, dealing 800% Glaciation DMG and activating Crystalline Zone for 8s. After Splendor Points reaches maximum inside Crystalline Zone, Echo can hold Basic Attack to consume all Spendor Points and cast Anguishing Co-Strike (gaining invincibility but unable to cancel with Signature - Celestial Edge), imprisoning and pulling in nearby enemies, dealing 2400% Glaciation DMG, restoring 50 Signature Energy to Echo, and activating all available QTEs.
Anguishing Co-Strike consumes all Cipher Orbs, up to an equal number of Signal Orbs, and the Soul Shatter Mark if held, then grants corresponding bonuses for the Glaciation Effect.

• Each Cipher Orb increases the Base DMG of Gelid and the Ice Spike by 4%, and each Signal Orb increases the Base DMG of Crystallize by 25% for 24s. Triggering this effect will renew its duration. The Soul Shatter Mark enhances the effect of Crystalline Points, every 100 Crystalline Points increasing the Base DMG of the next Cryoshatter by 200% (does not stack).

Level 9: While an Ice Spike is active, Echo's [Signature - Celestial Edge] resets the Ice Spike's duration to 10s, and [QTE - Advent of Justice] extends the duration by 4s and deals 600% Glaciation DMG instead. Cecily's Cipher attacks deal an additional 200% Glaciation DMG and accumulate 100 Crystalline Points for the team..

• The Ice Spike's duration cannot exceed 10s.

Level 18: Base DMG of Anguishing Co-Strike, Imprisoning Co-Strike, and Soulbreaking Co-Strike increase by 50%.
[Passive - Decisive Omen] added effect: Increases the final effect of Ultralimit Torque applied by [Core Passive - Blessing of Fortitude] by 5%. While Echo has an active Crystalline Emblem, she instead grants the Frostbound Nova effect that increases Glaciation DMG by 5%. While an Ice Spike is active, Cecily's Cipher attacks accumulate an additional 200 Crystalline Points for the team instead.

[zenith kernel]

Alisa leap jumpscare

[mighty tusk]

alisa is subdps?

[true pivot]

bianca never existed

[distant wren]

well "sub" in the way that she seems to deal more than wanshi at least

[true pivot]

[zenith kernel]

I don't see Wanshi doing double rot

[mighty tusk]

that's......questionable

[distant wren]

aether did say wanshi's glacio numbers are wack

[mighty tusk]

wack in a bad way?

[distant wren]

yea

[vale raft]

Wanshi: Lucid Dreamer

Skill - Signature/Ultimate (Lv. 18)

Forlorn Rime - Hyperlinked Flight
Trigger: Consume 160 Energy + Not during Bullet Hail/Frosty Ascent + Tap Signature Move

Summons a lightweight drone to generate a forcefield, pulling in enemies and firing a strengthened Condensation Round. Deals Ice or Hiemal DMG depending on the current Calibration Mode. Upon performing this skill, immediately gains 1 Signal Orb and rearranges Signal Orbs into 3-Pings. Time Lag Calculation is activated while performing this skill. If Wanshi has the Domain Overlimit effect when performing this skill, its duration is refreshed.

• When Wanshi is in Calibration Mode: Quiescence or has not entered Calibration Mode, deals 2400.0% Ice DMG. If Wanshi is in Calibration Mode: Quiescence when performing this skill, resets the Calibration Meter upon performing this skill and exits Calibration Mode: Quiescence.
• When Wanshi is in Calibration Mode: Desolation, deals 1400.0% Hiemal DMG instead; resets the Calibration Meter upon performing this skill and exits Calibration Mode: Desolation.
• Performing Hyperlinked Flight while in Burst Mode can grant the Wounding buff.
• Generates an Ice Spike upon performing this skill based on the number of Diamond Dust Stacks.

1/3

[solar pier]

Propaganda

[zenith kernel]

Fr?

[distant wren]

well it def looks a fair bit lower than his ice numbers

[mighty tusk]

lowkey getting tempted to sss alisa than sss wanshi

[zenith kernel]

I wasn't paying attention before
Maybe 1 rot Wanshi is brick?
Or is it just his general glaciation

[distant wren]

1400% vs 2400
the boost modifier from his rank/sig/cub should be affected as well

[zenith kernel]

45% and -3s
Don't brick

[distant wren]

yeah obviously 3s wanshi still more important

[zenith kernel]

[mighty tusk]

can I even get sss wanshi before lilith comes? assuming no bp

[visual topaz]

Nobody malds

[mighty tusk]

I can get ss3 wanshi on day 1

[visual topaz]

[zenith kernel]

How many vouchers do you have rn

[true pivot]

i dont know if i wanna get a 3s wanshi...

[mighty tusk]

51k

[visual topaz]

Top hero scorers just think of hero as a sandbox

[glass bay]

I mean this is not what I'm. Saying tho

[zenith kernel]

Even one taps should be higher imo
My one tap was 231w

[visual topaz]

Legend might sweat for retain but most are also resigned depending of brackets

[zenith kernel]

Explain to me like I'm a global player
I can't read

[glass bay]

I'm saying the average player is less affected by skill issue on phys High invest than others

Like the average score is gonna be further than ceiling on ice for example

[visual topaz]

I didn't play at all

[glass bay]

Not the ceiling gameplay

[distant wren]

so let's just assume that wanshi has a sht tons of base dmg buff, like 500% for example
his ult1 ice base dmg would be 14400%
while glacio number would be 8400%

you can see the difference

[zenith kernel]

Eh, I still disagree in hindsight but ig what you mean

[distant wren]

but idk maybe him and alisa might still have equal dmg

[vale raft]

Wanshi: Lucid Dreamer <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:tank:1290614106520555571><:ice_element:1290613933106925638><:glaciation:1288090076001210398>

Main Tank Set

Usage

Main Tank/Sub-DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General Tank/Sub-DPS set
This unit has not been released on Global yet. Please take these builds with a grain of salt as they are subject to change.

Memories

4x Liston
2x Einsteina

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

None

[zenith kernel]

Well yeah, they're stronger teams, their ceilings are crazy Large compared to brick phys
Ig, void is where this is most noticable with shield bricks ┐⁠(⁠￣⁠ヘ⁠￣⁠)⁠┌

[glass bay]

So I'm saying I find it easier to handle the avg ice or fire player

Than phys or light

[true pivot]

ice is a terrible wz

[glass bay]

Nobody will mald it

[zenith kernel]

hm
Maybe if 2s0 vs 2s3

[zenith kernel]

[mighty tusk]

wait, isn't next week's monday-wed cycle the last wz for this patch?

[glass bay]

S3 or sss in hero ofc

[zenith kernel]

Yeah, we aren't getting the last phys/void ┐⁠(⁠￣⁠ヘ⁠￣⁠)⁠┌

[glass bay]

In legend when they are serious ofc I'm cooked

[vale raft]

Current Roadmap (as of Feb 08th 2025)

[zenith kernel]

Yeah, but I highly doubt closing the gap on 3s fire would happen unless the player watched spider 2b's rotation

[glass bay]

I dno man I cooked them many times so far

[limber yoke]

k whel

[glass bay]

[vague nebula]

[zenith kernel]

What's your invest

[glass bay]

223 011

[zenith kernel]

Even the most skill issue fire player I know is getting Carried by invest
Smh

[zenith kernel]

What was your score last fire

[glass bay]

i was in hero but iirc its like 2.8 mil?

[pine slate]

Whel

[carmine mesa]

I just found out I forgot to HT Watanbe's shaks set

I have a promising career in games journalism awaiting me, brb, applying to IGN

[pine slate]

[glass bay]

NO

[zenith kernel]

Damn, maybe I didn't check hero properly last rot kek
223 022 I got 335 Legend

[glass bay]

leave me alone let me promo

[glass bay]

i gapped all the fk SSS until frz came in

then i got kicked (couldnt promo anyway)

[zenith kernel]

Frz mega whel
That sussy baka

[mighty tusk]

Surely I can promote to legend next week before wz closes

it's dark and fire too

[zenith kernel]

Me legend next rot
Hopefully solo fire, legend mobs are garbage

[mighty tusk]

no solo

[pine slate]

Mob void sucks

[mighty tusk]

mob dark and 2 elite fire iirc

[pine slate]

Wata sucks on mob, Luna sucks on mob

Everyone sucks on mob except hyper

[zenith kernel]

It does, Luna literally doesn't gather
Kekmao

[pine slate]

Idk how mob wz is still an issue for units after hyper

[zenith kernel]

Oh no, double bear
I'm gonna kiwi

[mighty tusk]

I can prob outscore some players with higher invest than me

does require a bracket with mad skill issue

also no shakes holder on fire

[zenith kernel]

I mean
It would be too easy otherwise is what Kuro probably thought when they coded that one stupid mob jumping halfway across the map outside every single fkin frame of your DPS.

[pine slate]

Isn't mob wz like more scarce later on anyways?

[zenith kernel]

I hope so

[ripe stag]

Nice skip list till Vergil

[mighty tusk]

it does become less

aether sent a wz cycle list starting wanshi

[zenith kernel]

Unalao
Unless you get into a lobby with Fel and rydle

[grave rapids]

how do u get the dorm cats

[mighty tusk]

[limber yoke]

fel lao op

[mighty tusk]

is it not in the event shop?

[zenith kernel]

I'm saved 😔

[true pivot]

dammit, im 120k vouchers short to get s+ lilith when she drops

[zenith kernel]

I wanna have felaos spawns

[mighty tusk]

how much trade vouchers do we get per patch?

[zenith kernel]

K whel

[mighty tusk]

assuming hero retainer

[true pivot]

[zenith kernel]

Rough estimate is 6k ish on my end as f2p

But might be off

[mighty tusk]

because getting 48k vouchers is ....💀

[true pivot]

i think its 6k per patch?
8k for cub bp
15k for weapon bp

[mighty tusk]

btw, I assume no paid BP

[true pivot]

i was doing math just now and i forgot about it

6k per patch no bp

[mighty tusk]

[pine slate]

The event tix bp is a scam

[zenith kernel]

I'll need 17k Vouchers for SSS Wanshi when patch ends
Should have been 14k but I did an oops

[true pivot]

• extra 8k for cub
• extra 15k for whatever the other one is called

[pine slate]

2x cub bp is better than event tix bp

[mighty tusk]

unless you just wanted the 10 -pull event tix badly

[true pivot]

oh wait i didnt math properly

[zenith kernel]

Yeah, that's why I just stockpile cub bp

[pine slate]

Honestly u don't need it

Let's be honest, would u feel guilty using bc on character banner or cub banner

[mighty tusk]

cub

[true pivot]

ill have more than enough for lilith, whew

[zenith kernel]

5k bc on cub 💀

[pine slate]

Not like cubs are optional these days anyways, cub tix are as worth as event tix

[buoyant hornet]

Ig dlt + patton it is then, but I could test patton with shred reso

[pine slate]

U get 10 more pulls, more vouchers for 8 rc less

By buying 2x cub bp

[buoyant hornet]

Although since I only have ss0 alisa it'll change how I rotate my team compared to you

[zenith kernel]

Do not, not, not, no use dlt over Shred reso on phys
That team is suffering enough

[ripe stag]

6k in integrated patch 💀

[buoyant hornet]

Warzone even?

[ripe stag]

Why do they not buff the base income a little
They should have realised that the voucher income isn't even worth mentioning right?

[zenith kernel]

They need it

[true pivot]

yea, 6k per patch

[zenith kernel]

Yeah, resistance shred for phys is pretty massive

[buoyant hornet]

So it's worth the potentially slower rotation without dlt?

[zenith kernel]

No, a single patch

[zenith kernel]

Yep

[buoyant hornet]

I hope it's not too copium 😭

[meager iris]

2000, with sync 6000

next patch 4000

[true pivot]

[mighty tusk]

💀

dear me, sss wanshi is gonna take a while as no bp spender

[zenith kernel]

• event vouchers
  Which are inconsistent but it's still about 5-6k for f2p in a single patch no?

[buoyant hornet]

Not counting events right?

[pine slate]

Yeah

[buoyant hornet]

I think so yeah

[pine slate]

I have like 74k voucher rn

[meager iris]

this is free bp alone

this is rough estimate of voucher income next patch

[pine slate]

Tbf i did buy bp this patch, but I also did buy lots of empy shards

[meager iris]

with paid bp ofc

[buoyant hornet]

I have 72k and 80k on my accs both f2p, but worth mentioning I've been really stingy with them I'm still stuck with ss0 amps

[zenith kernel]

Then should be ≈15-18k integrated

Or 10-12k next patch

[pine slate]

I sssed all amps

[buoyant hornet]

Woaaaah maybe I should do sss ayla after all

[meager iris]

wz was calculated assuming one rotation legend 1 hero

[true pivot]

im confused

[pine slate]

I don't usually buy bp as well, idk where I get so many vouchers

[buoyant hornet]

F2p or bp?

[pine slate]

I buy bp like twice?

[zenith kernel]

51k on my end, should be 55-56 when patch ends
I might just buy 1 more cub bp and go f2p

[gentle cedar]

Can I use another weapon for exp? a 4*
If so, how?

[pine slate]

Or 3 times in total

From mech patch to current patch

[zenith kernel]

🐋

[pine slate]

[meager iris]

what about wanshi

[gentle cedar]

nvm I found out how

[zenith kernel]

What the hell?

[buoyant hornet]

I don't remember how 4* weps work for xp tbh

[zenith kernel]

Gimme your witchcraft

[frosty pecan]

for hanying, should i hypertune alisa?

[buoyant hornet]

I already have enough for insta ss3 and probably sss across 2-3 patches

[zenith kernel]

If your Hanying isn't 3s then sure

[buoyant hornet]

Ugh I'll do math to make sure what I should do

[gentle cedar]

I clicked on Select Material and it let me pick the 4*

[pine slate]

Crazy thing is, I still have Capri and kaleido shards in ppc

O ye I should mention I gacha Alisa and I got Selena first copy on standard

[meager iris]

sss is going to be juicy for ice and void

[zenith kernel]

[frosty pecan]

she will only be ss so i should?

[true pivot]

wait, then isnt this also divided by 3 as well?

[meager iris]

those -3s on switch alone is good

[zenith kernel]

Yeah

[frosty pecan]

kk

[meager iris]

no

[true pivot]

this math is confusing me

[buoyant hornet]

With the calculation per 2x patch (assuming all upcoming ones are x2) if I have 80k (f2p) I'm guessing I could definitely SSS ayla safely without bricking wanshi progress? I already can get 24 shards from ppc and she's currently exactly ss0

[meager iris]

the free already calculated time 3, but paid one since you can buy each one separately they are having it as x1

[true pivot]

ah

[buoyant hornet]

Also 30 shards dupe from selector

[true pivot]

thats awfully confusing

[meager iris]

you can get 1 paid bp but you can't get 1 free bp in short

[true pivot]

so if one gets the rd bp, its 15k x3 then?

[last reef]

guys so im a super duper new to this game, i tried the character skill stage but didnt event understand ( i did the combo wrong but i can still pass) can sb explain it in detail abt skill combos, thank you ill appriciate it

[gentle cedar]

Who to get from here? I got Nanami Pulse, Karenina Ember, and will get Kaleydo from dorm

[ripe stag]

Hey guys
Hanying's "gains 30% DMG Reduction while she has a shield." Is in Ult form or both forms ?

[zenith kernel]

No
You have to buy red bp 3times

[true pivot]

i should have worded that properly

but aight, i got it thanks

[meager iris]

not sure but if you won't pull, you need 90 shards which cost 72k

[zenith kernel]

Probably any form as long as her shield is up

[pine slate]

If ur asking about core passives, it's different for each character

[meager iris]

you can get all 90 btw during next patch

so if you have it ready just get it done next patch and finish ayla after

[dapper skiff]

Wtf

Brown dazz

[last reef]

yeah thats why i need a detailed tutorial

[dapper skiff]

He become Asian

[quiet heath]

resonance for luna oblivion guys

[vale raft]

Luna: Oblivion <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:annihilator:1285900128489701436><:void_element:1285900049909284864><:disorder:1288089672718876787>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set

Memories

4x Cleopatra
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

Cottie

[dapper skiff]

There

[pine slate]

For who

[dapper skiff]

In game has tutorial for each Chara starting from their attacks and a full dps rotation

[last reef]

im a newbie so the liv girl and lucia

[dapper skiff]

Find Celica class tab

[glass bay]

@carmine mesa

pak btch

i wanted to chill today

[dapper skiff]

I'm going in tonight

[last reef]

yes but i dont rly uderstand it bc when i did the steps wrong the games still leme pass

[dapper skiff]

Dw

[glass bay]

cook him

[dapper skiff]

So you've been in Celica class tab?

[last reef]

who is that

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah I'm taking into account future income too when I say I can afford SSS wanshi overtime but I'm wondering if spending 29k rn for ayla is worth

[last reef]

idk its js a part of the story

[true pivot]

hmm darn, i need 2 copies from the gacha if i wanna s+ lilith...

[dapper skiff]

It's a tab where you can access individual character guide and tutorial, it's in trial tab

Please check the game first

[buoyant hornet]

Thing is, it won't be that amazing for void long term because ss3 lilith, and for ice she might get replaced any time

[true pivot]

couh coughcoughcoug h

[meager iris]

it will be hard to recover that tbh you might need 2 patches

[dapper skiff]

Do it

[carmine mesa]

Saturday is my only day off, got nothing better to do then WZ and listen to podcasts

[meager iris]

as f2p

[last reef]

i havent got full acess bc i still need to complete sum stories (im in 1-4 story now)

[meager iris]

holy whel

[dapper skiff]

doubt

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah not worth it ig, also to secure lilith ss3 (or SSS if there's no free S ranks anytime soon)

[glass bay]

i actually have some housekeeping stuff to do today

and also lifting session

[true pivot]

no

[dapper skiff]

Then get over the tutorial first?

At least finish chapter one man, you're thinking too much about these character

[pine slate]

If Ishmael is ss3, we use Lilith in void right? Assuming sss Lilith

[meager iris]

lilith ss3 is basically free no vouchers needed, maybe only 7 shards needed

[dapper skiff]

Overthinking won't get your anywhere

[glass bay]

because of selector?

[dapper skiff]

It's a game, so smash everything and be happy

[meager iris]

no

[glass bay]

ah sorry i misread, thought its ish

[buoyant hornet]

It's just really annoying that I have an obsolete selector on this acc lmao the only unit I'm actually missing is hyperreal which, obviously no
Otherwise all I can dupe whoever

[meager iris]

because you don't get 50 shards to open the character, you get 1 copy + 20 shards

[buoyant hornet]

And ss3 balter becomes kinda irrelevant next patch

• we get her for free anyway

[carmine mesa]

SS3 Balter is one step closer to 3S Balter

[meager iris]

how much you missing on ayla?

[true pivot]

doesnt shard unlock cost 50 if you dont roll?

[meager iris]

yeah but lilith will be different, we basically get 1 copy like you pulled her then 20 shards extra

[buoyant hornet]

36 if we subtract potential selector dupe + 24 ppc shards

[true pivot]

wha

[buoyant hornet]

Ah yes the only attacker that got powercrept in cn already 😭

[meager iris]

so you need to buy 36 shards?

[true pivot]

isnt hyperreal and cw (soon) gonna be powercrept

[meager iris]

I would say make sure you finish wanshi first then do ayla

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah

[pine slate]

90 wanshi shards would cost 72k roughly right?

[buoyant hornet]

Hyperreal has BEEN much less relevant and cw is a funny case lol

[pine slate]

And I need 30 balter shards

Cub bp is actually so cracked ngl, I might prioritize it over monthlies atp

[buoyant hornet]

How many shards do we need for lilith ss3 again? (Total)

[meager iris]

from s to ss3 57

oh for lilith

[fossil kraken]

who should i pick?

[meager iris]

with vouchers you need 7 shards only

[buoyant hornet]

So 37 ppc+voucher?

[meager iris]

yes and 20 free

[pine slate]

Wat

[buoyant hornet]

Assuming you're a returnee, empyrea is the most value but scire can also work but both are at risk of replacement in CN

[buoyant hornet]

20 free lilith shards

From her patch

[raw swift]

EOSMoon's been in vc for ages

[pine slate]

Isn't that like

From gacha

[buoyant hornet]

I heard it's guaranteed from shop or something

[raw swift]

Pretty sure they haven't left since the xeno stream

[buoyant hornet]

Lmaooo

[pine slate]

I thought u get free copy, then skin and extra copy + 20 shards from gacha

Idk

Haven't looked that far

[meager iris]

these should be able to get for free

[lament yoke]

Any situation where luna's hold ult is useful?

[dapper skiff]

Ppc

[buoyant hornet]

The most solid thing I did hear was 20 shards, cub and sig are all guaranteed f2p but the skin and extra copies aren't

[dapper skiff]

Barely anything else

[meager iris]

the extra copy + skin and stuff these are the paid

here are tha free gacha rewards

[lament yoke]

But im not supposed to use it If I'm at ss, right?

[pine slate]

That the cub?

[buoyant hornet]

Can be used to finish off a boss if your normal rotation doesn't kill

[meager iris]

ye

[pine slate]

Hmm

[buoyant hornet]

Sig

[pine slate]

Is her gacha containing her skin and stuff temporary?

[deft apex]

You can earn up to 60 free pulls for lilith
Every 20 pulls in the free banner you'll get a pity for one of 3 rewards: Lilith's Copy, her sig and coins
The coins are just enough to buy her cub and 20 more of her shards
If you happen to get all rewards before the 60 free pulls, they'll let you use 10 pulls worth of free currency to pull on the debut-like banner
For you to get into the "debut" banner, you have to get all 3 pity rewards from the free banner first

[meager iris]

yeah

[lament yoke]

I see

[deft apex]

[buoyant hornet]

Btw at ss if she's in finality form and swaps to someone else, her chakram does 2000% void dmg quickly so that's another decent thing to keep in mind when using hold ult to finish them off

[meager iris]

the skin and the second copy and paid gacha should be temporary cuz I can't see them now

[buoyant hornet]

Finality form = hold ult 1 form

[zenith kernel]

https://youtu.be/l6x5Wmr4zu0?si=QjtjYPsQwgYBzHi5

@pine slate

[lament yoke]

2000% dmg is considered good?

[pine slate]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-anguish-despair-gif-13915908866750092639

[woven haven]

no its not he’s messing with u

[zenith kernel]

Literally me when I saw this

[buoyant hornet]

Btw the lilith copy+sig+cub+shards are all permanent right?

[meager iris]

ye

[buoyant hornet]

Not great but it's an option if you're barely missing dmg

[buoyant hornet]

Obviously your invest would never need to consider this but it's actually usable in niche scenarios for lower invests

[peak halo]

xd when i thinked my phys is incompete
i hope my ice can do anything

[woven haven]

no its literally very miniscule dmg

[buoyant hornet]

Hence "niche" lol

[woven haven]

all the buffs drop from Luna when that 2000% hits

its the same as lamia sig mem dmg proc

you're not using it in a practical situation

[buoyant hornet]

For example on hamlet hell ss0 team could lack dmg after 1 rot so quickly doing hold ult > swap out finishes him off

Ultra niche but worth keeping in mind

[lament yoke]

Qtes have 600% dmg multiper

This one has 2000%

Thats not even a good comparison

[buoyant hornet]

He means lamia's passive on derketo

[vale raft]

Derketo ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

Dark DMG increases by 10%.

4pc Set Bonus

Base DMG of Torrent Orbs, Tidal Orbs, and Signature - Sunken Finale increases by 100%. After casting Signature - Sunken Finale, if Lamia is switched out of battle, she will still cast co-attacks when any teammate actively casts their Signature. Co-attacks deal 3000% Dark DMG each time, and can be triggered up to 3 times after every Signature - Sunken Finale.

ATK

132

CRIT

66

DEF

223

HP

1491

[lament yoke]

I never knew lamia can deal big dmg even when off-field

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah it was meant to encourage swap gameplay

Kinda similar to the gen3 attacker qte bombs at ss3

[lament yoke]

Gen3 units have stronger qte at ss3?

[buoyant hornet]

Only attackers starting from pyrooath

Their qte becomes somewhat of a nuke after they perform their rotation

[lament yoke]

Uh wast gen3 after qu?

[buoyant hornet]

Not very different from the derketo passive really, it's just a p2w version because it's on ss3 instead of sig mem lmao

[pine slate]

My phys might be able to do better but I'm on 2.123 012 101

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah

[peak halo]

no, that sht
i hate who

[ripe stag]

Dawg
Teach me how to use physical

[peak halo]

xd i use ca so

[buoyant hornet]

Reminded me I need to do onslaught

Lmao next week I can't do onslaught

Nightmare cycle week

I mean if it was the same cycle but next patch it'd be ez

[peak halo]

i guess not u the only one

[buoyant hornet]

Fushen emperor lilith no amount of zaza will save us here if we're below the invest needed for 1.8m

I hope they repeat this cycle next patch though

Hanying and wanshi will make it easy 1.8m for a lot of us lol

As long as it's not ballard emperor lilith 💀💀

[carmine reef]

next week is fushen emperor lilith?

[peak halo]

idk i start on rose i gess thats was a tric
and just trying keep on max the sharpness

[carmine reef]

or are we talking about the week that happened

i will never forget the first week that lamia patch came out and they tossed in all 3 new bosses at once in the same week

suddenly dropping fushen tb lilith all at once in one week should be considered terrorism

[buoyant hornet]

Oh lord I'd forgotten about that 💀💀

[peak halo]

i liked that, cuz i needed skull that time

[buoyant hornet]

So I've been told

[carmine reef]

k whel

[buoyant hornet]

And we were stuck with lightning as our only option for tb 💀💀

[peak halo]

neh i dumped it on ayla before cuz i forgot how her in voucher shop and thats made me brick

[carmine reef]

💀