📨・meta-help

[lament yoke]

I chose lamia

[raw swift]

[livid lark]

that there was your issue

[true pivot]

OH CMON

[livid lark]

rip fire

[true pivot]

NOT EM

[past thicket]

hai

[abstract heron]

ty ko

[surreal nest]

couldnt they have just given me 10 more for an even 10 pull

[true pivot]

gonna demote again zzz

wait heck its ballard tifa lamia?

[lament yoke]

Which one has higher DMG output considering I'm doing off element?
Solo luna or solo qu?

Ss sig avg investment

[bright kraken]

Im stuck in an infinite loading screen in resource stages

is there any fix for this?

[winged pine]

Who to take?

[livid lark]

luna i guess

[manic abyss]

How do u get the choice pack??(I'm new so I wanna know)

[zenith thorn]

spring song event

[lament yoke]

Okay

[manic abyss]

Thank you!

[mighty tusk]

He has empy though?

[warped turtle]

what should i spend my vouchers on?

[zenith thorn]

oh f*ck i didnt see

[zenith thorn]

scire

[zenith thorn]

save them for sss wanshi (next patch)

[warped turtle]

will 60 shards get me to sss?

[manic abyss]

Thanks!

[zenith thorn]

it wouldt
but it's a nice objective to get

[warped turtle]

alright

[true pivot]

is this worth it

[zenith thorn]

bro why cant i 32s ballard
sh*t game istg

[zenith thorn]

no

[warped turtle]

will wanshi be used in nihil teams or nah

[zenith thorn]

can be used if he's ss3 or sss0

[true pivot]

does that include 66% and 80%

[zenith thorn]

also at ss0 if eptaph is used

[zenith thorn]

yes

[true pivot]

huh

so only for rank shards then?

[zenith thorn]

yes'

[lament yoke]

WOW IM 27 SECS ON LAMIA

[ripe stag]

What team what investment

[dapper skiff]

Looking good for wantap

[rain anchor]

lets go i got wata and luna to SS

[ripe stag]

Congratulations

[zenith thorn]

sorry kurai this "wantap" is looking like a 6h run

[rain anchor]

thanks to first time trying exppc

[quiet lily]

my goat

[lament yoke]

SS0 qu sig and s alya, s qilin

[ripe stag]

I think you can lower the time a bit more

[lament yoke]

How much should I aim for?

[wide parcel]

Where should I use my reso weapon, my obliv and cw alr has 1 DLT (don't have 6* on empy/kaleido yet)

[past thicket]

dalaoded

[ripe stag]

20 ~ 24 I guess

I'll try in a bit wait

[lament yoke]

Okay lemme do it

[kindred bobcat]

You fat whel

[dapper skiff]

livWhat

[dapper skiff]

Keep for solacetune

[wide parcel]

Gotchu, that's Selena's new Omni rite? Or am I wrong

or hanying tank

[dapper skiff]

Hanying tank

It's still far for us global until Selena release

[zenith thorn]

im deadass tired rn im just going to mald this later at night

[meager iris]

I was trying lamia for like half an hour and seeing my damage is really bad, I just realise I have both glory and cow on dv

[zenith thorn]

kurai u can login now

[livid lark]

do outlier stuff as well if you havent already

[dapper skiff]

Congratulations

You're a dumbass

[true pivot]

what the heck is a one tap

[dapper skiff]

Nah i'd work

[manic abyss]

Who's the best for Luna?

[livid lark]

you clear once without any restarts

[meager iris]

my honor

[true pivot]

oh

[dapper skiff]

Check pin for Luna faq for both optimal and budget team

[lament yoke]

24 secs with lamia I did it

[true pivot]

this is crap

the whel qu does 1m more score than mine

[mighty tusk]

kek I retained 30%

[livid lark]

going to demote this week

adios

[mighty tusk]

from legend?

[livid lark]

hero

[mighty tusk]

oh wait it's ice

[shy bane]

is this only for intensive battle?
i got no mail O_O

[true pivot]

is lamia max at 10s or 9?

[mighty tusk]

yes intensive battle

[livid lark]

yes

[shy bane]

[rain anchor]

yep thats how i got them to ss lol

got like 1k skulls there

[lament yoke]

What should I do after the 2nd ult(on 23rd second)

Usually I'd trigger matrix but this time didn't

[native adder]

i want total lvl 600, can i delete a record and use those units for another stage and still get 600?

[true pivot]

wait, qu is faster than lamia?

[livid lark]

cant you increase difficulty for alisa?

[native adder]

dont have good units

[livid lark]

then thats what you have to stick with

if you delete a record you wont get 600

number is dependent on your saved attempts

[native adder]

ah i see

welp

also tfw u have so much Serum

what do i even spend it on, im currently spending it on event but what do i spend the event mats on

[mighty tusk]

perfect memo resos?

6* memo shards for next patch?

leap mats?

[native adder]

like im sure i shouldnt be levelling anyone right now

[native adder]

for 6*memo shards, am i suppose to be using that for memory resonance? or use the same memory

[native adder]

leap is done, empy and rigor, i dont think i can leap anyone else

[mighty tusk]

if you want to get sig memory sets for debut units on day 1

[native adder]

theres some on event shop that arent available atm

but i got the ones for hanying patch and pyroarth too

only thing i could get was cottie iirc

[astral star]

is joininng a guild necessary

[mighty tusk]

yes

[native adder]

if im wrong, do let me knw who i should invest in

[astral star]

how do i find a good one

[mighty tusk]

look in the top 100 guilds

[lament yoke]

OMG IM TOP 20(not for long)

[mighty tusk]

@buoyant hornet
lol even scuff invest ice is possible to 580k tifa

[zealous goblet]

When's the DMC collab patch?

[mighty tusk]

to be announced when

[buoyant hornet]

Oh wow how much total score is this?

[mighty tusk]

idk, but as long as I did not reach 38 hell sec beyond, 580k is 100% possible

[true pivot]

how fast can ice on lamia get? i got 10/10/10

using dark but ehh

[astral star]

how 😅

[hoary dagger]

ss qu can 8/9/9 lamia

[distant wren]

@dapper skiff here the difference is between parrying her shield vs the atk
but with echo boss' 3 arrows it was different between first 2 vs the 3rd one for me

[dry night]

Um does anyone know how to resonance a 6* weapon?

[true pivot]

what the heck...

[dry night]

I dont have 6 star dupes

[true pivot]

thats so much faster than lamia

[zenith thorn]

weapom resonance usb

tou should have enough shards

from "maze" event and norman

[true pivot]

is it because of her hold dodge insta ult?

[lament yoke]

This thing. available in shop ig

[ebon adder]

how fast can solo wata get on ballard

[zenith thorn]

depends on the investment

what's your investment here

[ebon adder]

s with r1...

[zenith thorn]

dawg that's a 1minute run

[ebon adder]

bet in 1 min?

[zenith thorn]

supports?

[ebon adder]

empy and ardeo

[zenith thorn]

epitaph harmo?

[ebon adder]

yeah

rn 4 cottie

with shred reso

[zenith thorn]

4cot wata dlt
4dv2guin empy
4shakes2ein bridget

the rotation?

good luck

[ebon adder]

thanks

[lament yoke]

Wouldn't scire be better than empy for me? Because I have lamia?

For the free s rank selector

[mighty tusk]

ok got 22 sec ballard

[frozen creek]

are you guys still malding normal ppc

i finally got 1-5% onslaught

malding was worth it

[rain rose]

is there gen 3 units already?

[frozen creek]

we dont use gens anymore

gen2 was literally just timstop during ult

just consider newer units of the same class to be the next generation

like hanying is a next gen rosetta

[rain rose]

okok, btw what is malding ikm new

[frozen creek]

basically putting a ton of time and effort into stuff even if its making you angry

anything for a couple extra skulls

[nocturne mesa]

what content in the game needs well built characters?

[mighty tusk]

norman, wz, ppc, clash reflection

[frozen creek]

malding is basically mald and balding combined

[rigid cape]

good morning. on global server, do we have any upcoming days without farming events? want to clear the story (still at ch10 😅 ), I checked the PGR roadmap but I am not sure how accurate since we have multiple events paired together.

[surreal nest]

damn i was trying to remember what cr stood for lmaoo

[frozen creek]

clash doesnt i can just solo cw the whole thing

[distant wren]

holy wantap bridget GB

[mighty tusk]

this included?

[frozen creek]

[sly geyser]

what da hekk?

[ripe stag]

SSS Wanshi
SS0 + R1 Qukra 4 Ji Bo'an 4 Chen Jiyuan
SSS Changyu

[sly geyser]

Ballard again?

[frozen creek]

i might have to switch for a bit we dont talk about that

[sly geyser]

[frozen creek]

all you need is enough for onslaught

phat whel like you complaining imagine f2pslike me

[rain rose]

lmao I hate that especially when orb cancelling

[mighty tusk]

it's a nightmare for those relying on solo cw

[sly geyser]

wait clash reset already?

[rain rose]

CW can actually solo?

[frozen creek]

why do they want us to swap

[rain rose]

oh right she doesn't need orbs as much

[ripe stag]

Scratch that
Same team

[frozen creek]

i mean im gonna have to play swap in every team soon

[ripe stag]

Yea she can but it's terrible

[frozen creek]

right now im only swapping fire and void

[mighty tusk]

wanshi incoming

[ripe stag]

Cuz swap is always better

[frozen creek]

my ice is bricked cause my qu is ss0

[ripe stag]

No?

[frozen creek]

not even s+ wanshi can save that

it wont perform as good as the other teams

cause theyre all gonna be 3s

[ripe stag]

You joking right ?

[surreal nest]

ss0 qu poopoo

[frozen creek]

my lamia can do that quicker

[surreal nest]

[ripe stag]

Same time with SS0 lamia which needs SP delay

[frozen creek]

who said ss0 lamia

[ripe stag]

Fck you whale

[mighty tusk]

wtf is this?

3rd placer has s+ cw but no feral

[distant wren]

[keen imp]

Is this how i should build them? Kaleido for Oblivion and Garnet for CW

[mighty tusk]

1st placer has sss cw and sss feral too

[carmine reef]

dv garnet is only for really fast ppc kills
otherwise you need 4 tifa

garnet's flag doesn't have any lightning shred without 4 tifa

[true pivot]

my 3s lamia did 10s vs lamia though

[quick rover]

Which one is better

[carmine reef]

right for wz left for ppc

[quick rover]

Ok

[keen imp]

Owh alright² ty

[mighty tusk]

*on qte

[carmine reef]

i don't think swap out flag has it without tifa either

[mighty tusk]

just need to do 1 core (no need for 3 stacks) slam then swap out

[carmine reef]

that's not giving the flag shred

that's shred from the slam

[frozen creek]

too difficult, just tifa everything

[carmine reef]

the flag still won't have shred

[frozen creek]

no such thing as a fast ppc kill anymore

[carmine reef]

anyway that's why i said dv is only for fast ppc kills

because you only get the shred from slam if you do dv garn

[dapper skiff]

U can get the perfect parry with blue

[woven haven]

ya that’s just qte flag so it needs tifa

[carmine reef]

ya

[woven haven]

same deal with nanami

[carmine reef]

it's the same with all the new tanks isn't it

sig mem required for off field shred

[woven haven]

no each has different

while sig mem is required there’s always different impact

Hanying’s is map wide aoe for 12s after ult
Wata bombardment for 12s
Wanshi/Ishmael deploy a field after ult for 12s

Nanami deploys a field on qte, swap off and ult
qte/swap first hit shreds without mem but subsequent field laid by qte needs sig mem to shred

[unique birch]

hi guys

[woven haven]

Actually really funny nanami has half the qte shred

by default

[lusty spear]

hey how good is physical team in alisa babel stage?
my alisa still has no signature & she still ss tho..

[zenith thorn]

that's a future problem when new light attacker

[zenith thorn]

it literally does not matter

it's babel,you can literally do it with A ranks

[livid lark]

it's good enough
babel is very easy if you got enough meta

[lusty spear]

ah alright, gotta switch it then

[zenith thorn]

and you would still survive

[unique birch]

heres the update of my team.. wht should i do next.. and actually i don't want to get the mermaid, but still get it.. like only for 20 gatcha base

[livid lark]

random?

[unique birch]

yaa

[nocturne mesa]

what should i get, i got no signatures atm and my main is luna oblivion

[zenith thorn]

that's huge

[unique birch]

100% rate i use for thats fire tank

[zenith thorn]

tonitrus

for alisa harmonisation

[woven haven]

wdym problem
nanami is on herschel forever there is no benching that mem

[livid lark]

that saves you from needing to wait for dark dps

[carmine reef]

it'll be a problem in 3 years when nanami is the qte bot of the team

[zenith thorn]

future zazas that may or not involve stupid setup

[woven haven]

that’s the funnier part

she has the shortest single rot

of most modern units in the game

swap -> 3p -> yellow -> hold atk -> ult

[topaz knot]

Lightning and ice for warzone both teams I don’t have

Time to get demoted again xd

[woven haven]

you can easily squeeze her into any rotation time

pretty sure it would fit into even alisa current field time restriction

[lament yoke]

24 seconds for me. Idk how to go under that because after 2nd ult, I cant trigger matrix

[woven haven]

if you’re 3S it gets even better cuz you just need
swap -> yellow -> hold atk -> ult -> off

[topaz knot]

Im surprised they didn’t make a light/holy element or something yet

Maybe one day

[carmine reef]

doesn't really make sense with pgr's setting

[severe pumice]

hello i want to return to the game but i wanna ask if its worth to continue from my old account or make new account? my old account have Luminence Empyrea Hyperreal and Rosetta (i have few other S but i forgot the name) do i just continue or make a new account? my old account is on mid game around level 60-70

[woven haven]

doesn’t make sense for pgr

[livid lark]

start a new one

[woven haven]

dark element is just a fancy way of saying radiation

[topaz knot]

I’m sure if they really wanted to they could make it make sense

[livid lark]

we already have 11 elements in the game

[carmine reef]

luminance dead
hyperreal dead soon
rosetta dead soon

[topaz knot]

Make it antimatter or plasma and then call it light ez pz

[carmine reef]

that's kinda what void is already

[livid lark]

we dont need more elements

[topaz knot]

Anti void

[woven haven]

void is antimatter alr

[carmine reef]

now you're just grasping at straws

[ripe stag]

Uh
Imma record and send
Just copy me

[woven haven]

anti void would just be
matter

[carmine reef]

anti anti matter

[severe pumice]

what privilege/lever would i have if i make a new one?

[dusky quarry]

Whelao gathering

[carmine reef]

i'm not sure what you mean by privilege or lever

but you could have an S rank of your choice from standard, plus another one in a few patches from standard, plus there's a free selector in current patch

[unique birch]

what's epitaph team guys?

[carmine reef]

that goes up to kaleido

[unique birch]

did i really need that Liv?

[carmine reef]

so you could get 3 good modern units with a new account

[woven haven]

with the exception of new luna
everyone can only be buffed by someone of the same element

[topaz knot]

They made a bunch of new ones with affixes you really think that unless the game goes EoS they won’t make a new element eventually

[woven haven]

yeah but you see each affix has a description and detail more clearly thought out than yours

[unique birch]

owh thats why epitaph is priority ya?

[severe pumice]

but i havent got the s rank of choice from standard either

[carmine reef]

then keep your account

[lament yoke]

@ripe stag what am I supposed to after 2nd ult help

[severe pumice]

then what unit and upcoming one do i need to save for?

[topaz knot]

You think I thought this out lmao

[carmine reef]

well you get every new S rank unit

but from standard you'd want to get epitaph

[ripe stag]

Send me your friend ID and what build you used to all 3 of them

[lusty horizon]

So I don't have all of the difficulties for ppc

How do I get them

[lament yoke]

20543963

[ripe stag]

Tell me what builds you used on all 3of them.

[woven haven]

ofc not that’s why its a dumb idea

you literally went
what if we made holy > anti void (which is anti matter) > ok but if affixes can exist why can’t my idea exist too

anyways a new full base element is a bad idea for pgr

[ripe stag]

Ok I understand the problem

[woven haven]

We already have way too much on our hands with affix and void being fk all difficult to parse

[topaz knot]

I said I’m surprised this game doesn’t have a light element cause element games usually have a light elements and the rest was shitposting

[woven haven]

A new element is just going to toss more fuel to the fire

[mighty tusk]

why not let kuro burn the kitchen then

[livid lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/861187568891461652/1318508334311276544/EOS.gif

[woven haven]

we used to have it easy determining strongest elements
only one team would shift in power each s rank
now we have 3-4 teams shifting meta position per patch

[ripe stag]

Do you have Gloria and Samantha ? Since your level is 93, newbie, should have it right ?

[topaz knot]

Add more elements till game EoS that’s the plan

New element every 3 patches

Now every new character is meta forever pog

[woven haven]

And not to mention the problem with new element needing new annihilator which doesn’t make sense when Luna was specifically the one the class was made for lore wise

same reason why a second observer isn’t possible

at least not in the same vein as the observer class we have already

[surreal nest]

they release a patch witha new element and 3 new s ranks to fit it lmao

[topaz knot]

5 new affixes for each element

[woven haven]

see this wouldn’t be a problem

[topaz knot]

Pog

[woven haven]

if Ishmael didn’t have the fraud ass restriction she does

ishmael would be usable as the third slot if she could pick her class

but no she can’t and she’s made to be the most scuffed unit to teambuild around

the only places you can run her are as light/ice/fire team’s amp slots

[livid lark]

ishmael leap

[woven haven]

Ishmael leap would be a new dark tank to get rid of that fk ing scire tier passive

[topaz knot]

Funny that they have the ability to select between skills but didn’t leverage that for ish and instead had a dumb flowchart system for her instead lol

[woven haven]

well you see

she wasn’t bad enough

she can only copy the buffs and shred

she still does fk ing void dmg

[ripe stag]

Buff and shred and the fact that Scire has no swap CD reduction

[woven haven]

which makes her output useless outside of void and onslaught finishers like setsu does

[ripe stag]

[hollow tulip]

@woven haven

[woven haven]

Also thanks to affix teams ishmael copies the wrong element anyways so fk all of you who wanted her to be good

[faint monolith]

Fuuuuu ballard this week too

[mighty tusk]

if ishmael copies scire's abilities, does ishmael ult field trigger shred and tank class mid-timestop?

[woven haven]

v1 ishmael couldn’t even buff or shred void

[woven haven]

why wouldn’t it
she only copies the shred % numbers and the tank passives

ishmael shred field on ult ticks through timestop still

the innate problem is her ability to access the buffs she wants is heavily restricted

and it doesn’t make her any better at off element

when only 4 teams are viable to offelement for her
and currently dark is fully cockblocking that possibility by their reliance on dv bath scire + lilith being a dps

[fallow ether]

what should I get with those

[mighty tusk]

perfect memory resos?

leap materials?

[lament yoke]

What's the problem

[mighty tusk]

level up? anything

[topaz knot]

Hen tai

[river nymph]

oh

[faint monolith]

Perfection

[topaz knot]

Yea just get memory and reso for everyone otherwise any mats you currently need thats the only answer

[fallow ether]

Hmm ok but I dont really need more memory stuff

[topaz knot]

If you run out of mats maxing anyone then you know what to spend it on

[fallow ether]

Does the order of the memory matter?

[mighty tusk]

not really

[topaz knot]

So everyone that you have that’s a meta unit has 45 memories with perfect resonances

[mighty tusk]

you mean you don't need correct memory reso?

[nova forum]

[ripe stag]

Is that Kaleido sig ?

[fallow ether]

free characters? I kinda new to pgr idk are those used for that way?

[zenith thorn]

beginners don't need to perfect reso yet bro wtf :lmaocry:

[lament yoke]

No

[river nymph]

[mighty tusk]

get them yes

[zenith thorn]

free charas ye

[topaz knot]

Bro is saying he’s doesn’t need ANY memory stuff

Which I doubt

[ripe stag]

2 problems you got

• No HT Qukra
• no proper build on Kaleido

[faint monolith]

Patch so stacked in stam I max built 6.5 omniframes from scratch

[rose yew]

Either buy lots of memories and perfect reso
Or
Build every other units and ultima awaken them

[lament yoke]

1. Isn't qu hypertuned?

2. Do I need to invest in kaledio if I'm just doing qte

[zenith thorn]

just build every other unit

[ripe stag]

Total of over 400 Da Vincis used

[fallow ether]

If you're saying to me yeah, I only have 3 characters already built last year so don't really need other memory for now but I'll get some since I have a lot of those thing

[wise jasper]

what should i pick for qu pet 3rd skill ?

[ripe stag]

Do you have infinitas ?

[mighty tusk]

maybe you should start perfect memory reso all your qte bots

[spice parrot]

i gonna use her with oblivion in ppc, it will will better if i change the harmony set to guinevere?

[lament yoke]

What's that

[zenith thorn]

i did

[rose yew]

Also 59w with lvl 1 bottom mem slot empy is wild

[ripe stag]

Sequence Pact

[mighty tusk]

Imma farm 6* memory shards

[topaz knot]

Get Luna oblivion and build her with it

[ripe stag]

You can't

[faint monolith]

No, you never use phy chars with luna

[nova forum]

Ye

Also why are using her on void

[fallow ether]

I dont like her, all I can get is hyperreal from the s* cause he's my husband

[zenith thorn]

yes...
but replace echo to someone better

[spice parrot]

cause i need to use wata and empyrea against the fire weak ppc boss

[lament yoke]

This? I can't. Ive only got 2 teams

[rose yew]

Because Crit rate is also converted to void Crit

[mighty tusk]

kaleido?

[nova forum]

Do you have kaleido?

[spice parrot]

yes

[mighty tusk]

then use her

[faint monolith]

Then use her

[topaz knot]

Lmao ok

[nova forum]

[woven haven]

and my foot will be in your ass

[fallow ether]

my beloved

[zenith thorn]

wtf is that miku only or can i preorder one

[mighty tusk]

Fairly sure miku is a masochist

[ripe stag]

That's why you aren't able to
Ok. So
Just 20s I guess or use Oblivion

[faint monolith]

Luna's elemental conversion doesn't work with phy omniframes cuz well physical is "not an element" most use kaeledo with her and unc wata

[ripe stag]

Do 3 rots with Qu

Shouldn't be more than 24s

[lament yoke]

Maybe I can if I get scire from s rank selector? The pact bonus Fights

[mighty tusk]

is physical stronger than fire now in cn?

[lament yoke]

3rd one is where problem lies. Can't do dodge ult with qu

[rose yew]

[zenith thorn]

is ur qu dlt

[lament yoke]

Yea

[nova forum]

Wat?

[woven haven]

no its because glb translation is so garbage they never understand the difference

[zenith thorn]

ss0 too?

[waxen vine]

hello people

[lament yoke]

Yea

[woven haven]

When they change from cn to en text

[zenith thorn]

you should be able to just force 2nd strong

[faint monolith]

Huh what's the reason then

[river nymph]

hello people

[woven haven]

in CN its made abundantly clear
attribute = all dmg types
elemental = non phys/ts dmg types

[ripe stag]

Just

[ripe stag]

You don't need dlt for 3 rots with 2 strong ones

[woven haven]

glb translates this to energy and element

the problem?
they slap element on everything named attribute

which then doubles the problem

[lament yoke]

@zenith thorn 2nd ult didn't kill

[ripe stag]

Yea cuz you don't have enough damage there

[faint monolith]

Wait so Luna's conversion is attribute or elemental?

[woven haven]

everytime in glb something says elemental
do not trust it

[woven haven]

elemental only

[ripe stag]

Elemental

[lament yoke]

Pact bonus will be enough?

[ripe stag]

Yes

[woven haven]

but people colloquially call phys an element

which makes it fk all impossible to separate

[zenith thorn]

you did 2x 3red 2nd rot
no wonder you ran out of orbs

[lament yoke]

It's wrong?

[zenith thorn]

yes

3p 1p 3p

that's the standard procedure
save orbs

especially when you wre forcing strong for 3rd rot

[faint monolith]

Oh ok but damn didn't think we had translation issues here

[zenith thorn]

https://youtu.be/-s49JzZsSB4?si=YjCK7uGfLPDCOFXx&t=80s

[faint monolith]

That's wack

[woven haven]

glb has always had tl issues

they just got more prevalent now

[ripe stag]

I forgot how much I got

Oh 594k

[lament yoke]

You got two strong ult back to back?

[mighty tusk]

is it possible to 600k fushen with 222 110 101 cubless?

[zenith thorn]

yes

[lament yoke]

Can I do it too?

[carmine reef]

it should be possible

[dusky quarry]

Might start malding Tifa today

[carmine reef]

i get like 585 with 222 500 and that's a huge loss in ppc

[dusky quarry]

Then go bruhllard

[mighty tusk]

fushen?

[zenith thorn]

of course you can

[carmine reef]

ye

[ripe stag]

Sadly no

[zenith thorn]

lamia is a really squishy boss, even with bricked edb it's still possible

[mighty tusk]

If I can get 615k on lilith, it may compensate for my lack of ice invest on emperor (586k for me)
that leaves 600k fushen

nvm my lilith is 614k only

[carmine reef]

i don't think i even got 580 on emperor

it's so doomed

[lament yoke]

If I get qu cub then the DMG increase would be enough to make up for lack of pact bonus?

[zenith thorn]

minimal

pact bonus is just huge

plus huiyu is pretty sh*t :lmao:

[lament yoke]

I should try to get pact bonus today then

But my dark team is qss

So

[ripe stag]

Huiyu made 11s Qukra on lamia possible

I'm never not trusting Huiyu

[lament yoke]

Hahaha

[zenith thorn]

ok but it's not gonna compensating like 10 edb loss anyway

[mighty tusk]

at what invest can shukra 10 sec hell lamia?

[zenith thorn]

atleast 3

[ripe stag]

SSS

Or SS3 I guess

SS3 has EDB with the core
If you can keep the EDB while ult 2 you can 3 stack ult 2

That's 10s

[ripe stag]

Have Empy I hope ?

[lament yoke]

Is there a pity or something on getting required bonuses on memory resonance

Like, spending 10 memories for resonance guarantees me ult bonus or something?

[ripe stag]

No

[lament yoke]

Nope, my fire is copium then I might as well kill it

[ripe stag]

I used 34 Da Vincis to get 1 Class Resonance on Kaleido's memory

[lament yoke]

Thats worst or best?

[ripe stag]

Why pick Daren then

HAIYAAAAAAAAAAAA

[ebon adder]

oh nahhh

[steady otter]

[lament yoke]

Zexous said

• I have lamia

[ebon adder]

min maxing resos seem f*cked

[zenith thorn]

wow only 34

[steady otter]

Nice brother

[ripe stag]

138 total dv used for 4 class reso

[ebon adder]

was it worth it

[ripe stag]

Yes

[ebon adder]

i see

[zenith thorn]

tes

[ripe stag]

Much needed slight damage increase

[zenith thorn]

yes

[ebon adder]

welp time to grind memory resos then....

[zenith thorn]

like 25% increase

[ebon adder]

memory resos usb should be kept for?

[zenith thorn]

but still

[ebon adder]

damn

[zenith thorn]

we usually use them for new characters instead

[ebon adder]

okay then

thanks

[glass bay]

feral sub dps harmo dv or guin?

[meager iris]

coop is so enjoyable

how tf rosetta is that laggy

[lament yoke]

S scire no sig
4dv and 2 Eins. Right?

Running with lamia
And teddy(4dv, 2 guin)

[zenith thorn]

4bath2ein

[glass bay]

i lucsacc feral wep

my light has rights now

[zenith thorn]

what rights

[glass bay]

swap rights

[zenith thorn]

ur 1 year too late

[carmine reef]

is your feral ss3

[glass bay]

yep

[carmine reef]

whel

[glass bay]

base banner lucsacc

[zenith thorn]

early?

[astral dew]

what weapon resonance would an SS pyroath want btw?

[glass bay]

no, 60

[lament yoke]

Okay. No need for resonance if only on field with lamia, right?

[glass bay]

weapon early

[vale raft]

Weapon Resonance Priority List - Lucia: Pyroath

Main Priority List

1. Dead Line Timing
2. Glorious Afterglow
3. Matrix Lightning

[zenith thorn]

@astral dew

[astral dew]

ty

oh and would an SS-SS3 wanshi need resonance or would he be fine without it

have to choose between giving hanying or him the reso

[zenith thorn]

im not capable enough for that :caught:

[astral dew]

fair enough lmao

[vale raft]

Weapon Resonance Priority List - Wanshi: Lucid Dreamer

Main Priority List

1. Bose Hyperflow (Ice Resist Down)
2. Matrix Lightning
3. Incandescence

Alternate Priority List

1. Dead Line Timing
2. Bose Hyperflow (Ice Resist Down)
3. Matrix Lightning

[carmine reef]

hanying absolutely needs it more

wanshi can live without it

[astral dew]

hanying needs DLT then i assume?

[carmine reef]

ya

[astral dew]

tyty

[carmine reef]

you can do a cope rotation without it but u know

cope is cope

and wanshi is perfectly fine without it

[astral dew]

planning to get everyone with their weapons but never know if ill lose the 80/20

anyone in the future that can manage without their weapon?

[carmine reef]

him and nanami

oh wait

without weapon entirely

[astral dew]

ye

[carmine reef]

😬

[astral dew]

goal is to get them all of course but after losing 3 80/20s b2b that one time I'm not super confident lmfao

[carmine reef]

it's the same answer LOL

him and nanami

that's it

[lament yoke]

Memory resonance is the worst thing. Doesn't even have a pity

[astral dew]

why is nanami able to survive without hers btw

she just that strong or?

[vale raft]

Nanami: Startrail

Star Tunnel of Light ★★★★★★

Sublime Omnislash

ATK increases by 10%. Exceed Points' Base DMG boost towards Starfall Collapse doubles. Base DMG of Burning Breakaway doubles.

ATK

436

CRIT

249

Charge Blade

[carmine reef]

read it

[astral dew]

oh it's just damage lmao

[carmine reef]

yeah

if anything the more impactful gameplay change is the harmo

since it lets you 4heisen

[astral dew]

I'll definitely go for wanshi weapon regardless since I don't have qu so he'll have to carry my ice until ishmael patch

If i lose on nanami so be it then

[verbal prairie]

are they going to increase the weekly BC income next patch? if so, by how much

[carmine reef]

that's the better choice i think

if no qu then the 4cjy will be a lot more important for wanshi since you probably won't have someone else that can hold it

at least for light you can have qte bot cw hold the heisen

[astral dew]

thank god they're giving cw and feral for free lmfao

it's quite rough catching up after a long break

[carmine reef]

they're giving cw for free at a point where having cw doesn't matter that much

[brazen spire]

It's just going to be 2X

[carmine reef]

the feral will be useful for people though

[ebon adder]

dude, i need a qte bot

[nova forum]

Most owned S rank at this point

[carmine reef]

yeah if you're willing to pull sig and harmo a qte bot

[carmine reef]

otherwise getting a fresh cw won't be a better qte bot than anyone else

and will be objectively worse than like garnet

[astral dew]

tbf CW does get her cub and sig for free too

[ebon adder]

aha thats where youre mistaken you see, i dont have anyone the meta lightining team rn

[carmine reef]

yeah but it doesn't matter cause she won't be onfielding if you just got her

lol

[lament yoke]

I can swap to Daren if she's S or nah?

[tight tangle]

Can wait till Nanami patch before u pull wanshi weapon, if u lost 80% then u have 2/3 chance of getting gud weapon

[carmine reef]

we're talking about when nanaknight is out

since that's when the free cw is

[quiet vale]

What does shukra use after wanshi cuz wanshi uses Chen Jiyuan ?

[astral dew]

also I just really like CW and was crushed when i missed her banner by a day

[carmine reef]

if you have nanaknight you literally don't onfield cw unless both cw and feral are quite high invest

so nobody getting that free cw for their first copy will be onfielding that cw

[carmine reef]

4cjy still good damage
2cot 2dw also good damage
4cot less damage but some people want it cause they're skill issued

[livid lark]

[carmine reef]

what the whel

[astral dew]

also I assume it's best practise to SS3 wanshi and lilith with the vouchers and spend em on noone else?

[carmine reef]

those would definitely be the highest prio

[quiet vale]

real I need 4p cot cuz no hyperarmour 😭

[proper sonnet]

Feral or Scire Sig Weapon first?

[astral dew]

unlikely I'll have vouchers to spare but what would the next best be?

[carmine reef]

[livid lark]

scire 100% if you had to choose

[carmine reef]

account dependent

assuming you have everyone ss0 then probably kaleido or alisa i guess

but it really depends

[astral dew]

my kaleido and alisa currently are S0

only just got them and figured they wouldnt be worth the investment at this point in time

same goes for emp liv

idk if her SS is worth anything

[carmine reef]

unfortunately empy ss is mandatory

[proper sonnet]

I can actually sell my Tene and Plume Signatures to buy a Sig to Feral meanwhile pulling Scire Sig

Does that make sense
Since I am never using both again

[carmine reef]

she literally does not give a fire buff without ss

[astral dew]

whats that site to show what units you have again?

[livid lark]

better to use those sigs for reso instead of scrapping

[carmine reef]

huaxu.app

[quiet vale]

how important is SS3 wanshi ? Cuz I should prob start saving instead of spending it on arisa

[proper sonnet]

War
You can use other sigs for resos?

[astral dew]

https://huaxu.app/eu/players/16903285/characters

[livid lark]

lol you didn't know?

[carmine reef]

ss3 wanshi is good

[proper sonnet]

Since when?

[carmine reef]

even better if you sss

[astral dew]

maybe this helps a little

[livid lark]

since the beginning of the game

[proper sonnet]

I will game end myself irl
Bye

[astral dew]

I have around 800 pain cage skulls laying around rn

[loud pivot]

eos irl

[astral dew]

saving them for watanabe and hanying

[loud pivot]

gimme i will ss obli

[carmine reef]

empy ss and then you probably just slave away at wanshi and lilith

[nova forum]

I need benchmark for tifa with 222 112 101

[spare heath]

what does his ss3 and sss do

[carmine reef]

in these situations with voucherable units where vouchers and skulls are both a precious resource, what i do personally

[proper sonnet]

So
Which Reso is Higher Prio

Lamia
Luna
Wata

[carmine reef]

is buy the 10 extra discounted skulls

[spare heath]

man I want wanshi in the game rn

[carmine reef]

and then voucher the rest

[quiet vale]

SS3 wanshi or SSS arisa ?

[carmine reef]

the first 10 shards are only 100 skulls total after all

[astral dew]

would it be worth just waiting on the next S rank selector to grab a dupe of empy or would there be better choices on that one

[frozen creek]

sss wanshi

[livid lark]

ss3 wanshi

[frozen creek]

[carmine reef]

probably similar value but i'm inclined to suggest wanshi since you would want to keep going on him

[brazen spire]

Hold on your kinda cooking something here

[spare heath]

Is Lilith also ganna be in voucher shop

[astral dew]

yes

[quiet vale]

I just SSS my alya, alr low on voucher too broke

[carmine reef]

you haven't even seen the depths of my cooking
i ss'd my garnet with a combination of bp shards, discounted skulls, and vouchers

[spare heath]

daym i thought wanshi was like the only good good unit in it

[dapper monolith]

Who should I use against Lamia in PPC?

[proper sonnet]

I should pick 2 of them

Should I reso Lamia Sig or Watanabe Sig or Luna Sig

[livid lark]

your best that isn't fire or lightning

[carmine reef]

anyone that deals basic atk or ult dmg, there are lots of options

lightning is actually good against lamia

[livid lark]

but needed for tifa

[carmine reef]

that's true

[astral dew]

other fight is lightning weak rn

[dapper monolith]

How bout Lamia dark team

[livid lark]

dark works ofc

[carmine reef]

lamia is good against lamia

qu is also good against lamia

luna is also good against lamia

[dapper monolith]

Who's the best besides Qu?

[livid lark]

luna

just make sure to have elemental tank and support

[dapper monolith]

Lamia, Balter, or Luna obv?

ok

[carmine reef]

balter is NOT good against lamia

[livid lark]

balter is meh

[spare heath]

luna obv obv(isouly)

[proper sonnet]

Can someone help
Which one has a higher Prio
Luna Sig Reso
Watanabe Sig Reso
Lamia Sig Reso

[carmine reef]

unless you have sss balter

[livid lark]

wata > luna > lamia

[carmine reef]

but probably still worse

[proper sonnet]

Thanks

[carmine reef]

luna then wata

[livid lark]

:/

[spare heath]

oh no

[dapper monolith]

Teddy, 21, and Luna good?

[carmine reef]

there's arguments for either direction

[livid lark]

i say wata because of his need in 2 teams

[carmine reef]

i don't mind going wata luna either

[spare heath]

the helpers have different opinions the cosmos is going to split

[carmine reef]

helpers plural?

ek shadow promoted

[spare heath]

i mean whenever Im online I see him

[livid lark]

[spare heath]

so he basically is a helper who doesn't get paid

[livid lark]

i dont really need a role

[carmine reef]

anyway in my mind luna and wata basically need it equally

homie you think i get paid?

[spare heath]

u get paid in 1 rc per anum

[livid lark]

because people here know me for other things

[carmine reef]

i know ek for getting banned

[mighty tusk]

You got 10-30% too?

[spare heath]

ek lore no way

[livid lark]

indeed

[mighty tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/927836702318424075.gif?quality=lossless&size=48

[livid lark]

im the dark knight of the pgr community

no one really knows me in person

except for the regulars here

[carmine reef]

"no one really knows me except for everyone that's usually here"

[livid lark]

i mean very few people know of my contributions to this server tho 🙂

to a lot of people here im just the helper XD

[carmine reef]

it's okay

[faint monolith]

Shet welp this week is doom I guess

[carmine reef]

i know

and that's what matters

[livid lark]

for some reason i expected some backhanded remark after that

like there was a punchline waiting to be said

[carmine reef]

some people think way too lowly of me

smh

[livid lark]

[carmine reef]

ngl i haven't even touched balter in ppc in what feels like ages

[livid lark]

your complements are greatly appreciated

[carmine reef]

p much just fushen only

useless for neutral bosses and i don't even use her on red liv

[woven haven]

time to stage a coup and give the bot to some famous jerk like spider2b

[proper sonnet]

Well I somehow managed to pull 6* weapon on first try
So I can Reso all of em rn

Is Balter Reso worth it

She is the only Attacker I have without 6* Reso

Excluding Hyperreal because he will get replaced soon so its not worth to waste a reso on his Sig

[lament yoke]

Is he bad?

[carmine reef]

balter reso is 0% worth it

[woven haven]

not worth

[mighty tusk]

Now imagine needing fdodge for that 600k

[woven haven]

very very not worth

[carmine reef]

[faint monolith]

That guy is an azzhole?

[proper sonnet]

Good

Should I save the Reso for Scire Sig

She is still S0 and I have to get Watanabe and Luna to SS

Or for Future characters

[livid lark]

misinfoer

[astral dew]

okay so just to make sure
So it is a good idea to SS emp liv with the cheap skulls and vouchers before wanshi drops?

[livid lark]

that's if he has the presence of mind to find the bot code

[astral dew]

I do only have enough vouchers for like 27 shards rn if that helps with the decision

[livid lark]

also don't forget the server hosting costs per month too

[carmine reef]

if you want to use liv at all yes

literally not usable until ss

[astral dew]

Has she been replaced for fire on CN yet?

[lament yoke]

So I can't trust his videos as guides for understanding new chars?

[livid lark]

correct

the newer ones especially

spider isn't a competitive player

[carmine reef]

she hasn't been replaced but the playerbase is expecting it soon

obviously what we expect doesn't necessarily guarantee kuro will follow but

[astral dew]

It'd still probably be a good 6-8 months of value out of her i guess

[carmine reef]

lilith is the first of the new gen amps and empy is the oldest one

[mighty tusk]

Some of his rotation for units + certain info are questionable

I saw his wata rot example in his wata vid

[carmine reef]

you should do ss because it's cheap and bc it's required for her to be usable

but personally i wouldn't go any higher for empy

[astral dew]

gotya

whats the next S rank selector have if you remember?

wonder what would be my best choice from that

[carmine reef]

free one is ishmael or nanami or thereabouts i think

[astral dew]

the standard pity thing for me is going to wata and qu probably

[carmine reef]

the best option from it is qu

you can probably get someone else from the standard reset

unless you're missing wata completely

then yeah you should get wata

[astral dew]

I have no watanabe yet but i have not used the current standard selector

[carmine reef]

you should use current for wata, then use the selector for qu, and then use the second standard for an impactful ss3

[astral dew]

any reccomendations for this one?

[carmine reef]

either lucia or hanying or ish herself

[astral dew]

oh right i could get lucia from that

she really wants her SS3 doesnt she

[carmine reef]

personally i'll be going with lucia

i was originally leaning to hanying but trueslash is like dead in the water anyway

no point right now

[mighty tusk]

Hear me out

Ss3 hanying for selena

[carmine reef]

yeah great a subdps for phys instead of main dps for two teams

[mighty tusk]

[vapid vine]

uhh help me plan my gachas for future patches

[carmine reef]

pull everyone

the end

[mighty tusk]

Also no gacha skins.
The end

[vapid vine]

such great advice

[carmine reef]

you think i am trolling you

i am not

that's the actual advice

[mighty tusk]

Literally

[astral dew]

game gives enough to pull everyone yeah

[mighty tusk]

Only s rank to be skipped from pulling is wanshi and lilith

[carmine reef]

and that's only because they're free

[vapid vine]

so should i pull for solacetune?

[carmine reef]

yes

[astral dew]

mhm

[vapid vine]

ok

[carmine reef]

you get all new S ranks

[mighty tusk]

Every s-rank that is not free

[gloomy shale]

wrong server

[carmine reef]

bro

[vapid vine]

just hoping that i save enough so i get solacetune, pyroath, and parhelion

[carmine reef]

how tf

[carmine reef]

as long as you do all your weeklies you're literally guaranteed to get them

that's how this game works

[vapid vine]

ok

[mighty tusk]

That may also mean, no sig weap nor cubs

[vapid vine]

thanks

[astral dew]

Yayyyy, what's her rotation btw I don't really know how to best use her

Got her leap fully done too

[vapid vine]

i'll just get sig after parhelion (unless i get enough target weapon tickets)

[carmine reef]

swap in, dodge after like a second and you should get auto matrix, matrix core, 3p (you'd core here if you had sig but you don't), ult

[vapid vine]

yeah idk either. i don't even have epitaph

wait

yeah i actually do that

just that i don't have sig because luna

[astral dew]

ty

Might get her sig in the case they ever drop another S rank weapon selector lmfao

but by then she'll probably be long gone anyway

[carmine reef]

probably a better use of such a selector regardless

[astral dew]

likely

[carmine reef]

empy sig is nice for her rotation but in the grand scheme of things empy having a good rotation is not a priority

even as far as qte bots go you'd rather get a sig that benefits their role as a qte bot instead, like kaleido

[dapper skiff]

Swap in > wait a bit and dodge her black hole for matrix > use singular orb for matrix orb > use 6 orbs at most before swapping out since you don't have signature for full core passive bar

Repeat it for the next rotation

[astral dew]

oh btw how are my chances at everyone's sig looking if i have 15k event tickets and 4k BC with 20 pity on the weapon banner

should be pretty feasible right

[dapper skiff]

If you see full bar, use hold dodge or double tap dodge, (should be hold by default)

[lament yoke]

Even with Daren
S lamia without sig feels so bad to play.

Is SS really important for lamia?

[carmine reef]

you can get pity on the next wep but "everyone" is dubious if you're f2p

[carmine reef]

S5 is really important

SS is not that important for solo

[dapper skiff]

Even without sig, with ss she can do ult every 2 rot already

Leap is huge

[carmine reef]

yeah

[lament yoke]

How much skulls an avg player would get per patch?

[carmine reef]

what do we call average

[pine slate]

Top 1% ofc

[carmine reef]

average for someone who actually knows how to play?

[pine slate]

[loud pivot]

[lament yoke]

1.2- 1.8 million ppl?

[carmine reef]

what a range you've given

LMAO

[flint igloo]

hem

[livid lark]

need to be more specific

[lament yoke]

Is that bad?

[glass bay]

Isn't this already not average based on percentile

[carmine reef]

1.2-1.8m is like almost everyone isn't it lmao

[glass bay]

[astral dew]

figured as much yeah so I suppose I'll probably leave wanshi's weapon at the side for now

[lament yoke]

Okay 1.2 alone, then?

[glass bay]

1.2 is omega bricked

[pine slate]

U should be able to get 1.5 at least

[carmine reef]

anyway i think the average for someone reading this chat is going to be at least top 30%

[pine slate]

Unless u skipped a stage

[lament yoke]

2 mins on hell

[carmine reef]

oofers

[astral dew]

my average is rather cooked just cuz of how long ive been on break lmfao

[carmine reef]

but anyway probably like 48 skulls non sync

[astral dew]

only teams i have rn are phys and luna

[lament yoke]

But anyways, you guys can get enough skulls to SS a char per patch, right?

[pine slate]

Ye

[lament yoke]

I guess it should be fine if I ss lamia then

[pine slate]

But why

Already ss ur other units?

[lament yoke]

Luna, qu yeah

[pine slate]

Wata?

[lament yoke]

No wata, I chose lamia on that banner

[pine slate]

U got enough for hanying's ss?

[lament yoke]

Probably

Currently have 260

And haven't included outlier zone so

[pine slate]

[abstract heron]

outlier zone is free skulls

[lament yoke]

Not when I have big skill issue and get tossed around by musashi

[abstract heron]

just onetap it

[covert shard]

whats outlier zone

[feral pollen]

daily login rewards are kinda thicc this patch

[ebon adder]

what daily login reward is this?

[shadow mica]

The whale reward

[ebon adder]

bruh

[quiet basalt]

The swipe reward

[dim crest]

got legit tierlist for this patch?

[shadow mica]

Imagine giving money to Kuro who told spenders to go fk themselves

[dapper skiff]

Dlt Luna helps a lot

You can map out your void run better when u have dlt

[lament yoke]

I need 6 hero chars to activate all pact bonuses? Bruh

[dapper skiff]

When you only have r0 Luna, you might have problem running to swapping wata to shield wata

Wata reso is good yes

But the score is negligible if you know how to play fire wz properly

And solo Luna vs swap score with R1 wata is not otherworldly gap

(even better in Luna weather ngl)

[lean pulsar]

No DLT wata rotates. No DLT Luna needs black magic miracle I guess

[dapper skiff]

Just basic more

[lean pulsar]

Just skip yellow orbs

[dim crest]

how much will I get If I choose Bianca? I’m currently 2/10 SS.

[tulip spade]

@spiral merlin have you discovered the reasoning behind bridget's stacks yet ?

[livid lark]

30 shards

[spiral merlin]

Nope it’s still a mystery to me

[frozen creek]

wtf whel

hnow the hell are you getting 1550 yellows a day

[mystic chasm]

do i need kaleido or no?

[livid lark]

she's free

how do you not have her

[shy jackal]

Kaleido just applies eins faster iirc

[quiet basalt]

omega swipe strat

[mystic chasm]

i mean, to replace epitaph

[livid lark]

[shy jackal]

Why tf would you

Replace epitaph

[livid lark]

that's even worse

[frozen creek]

he bought 250 tix a day 6 times then bought serum pass

[livid lark]

why would you replace your tank

[shy jackal]

Literally this

[glass bay]

since when u become omegawhel

[frozen creek]

true obix

[lament yoke]

I only get bonus If I station my chars, right?

[shy jackal]

This isn't even a me simping for wata moment

[dapper skiff]

Yup

[livid lark]

yes

[shy jackal]

Like that's a horrible idea

[lament yoke]

Man, I am not getting full pact bonus for like 2-3 patches then

[quiet basalt]

true tix hoard method, more like tix meth

[frozen creek]

all that for one copy

[quiet basalt]

thanks to eos plan hanying will get me full pact bonus hehehe

[dapper skiff]

Ss3 feral without dlt is just ss0 lol

[frozen creek]

k whel

fund me dlt then

[hexed idol]

is top-bottom resonance reffering to the top 3 memories and the bottom 3 memories or did i mess up? 💀

[nova forum]

[dapper skiff]

Lmao

[hexed idol]

its so over isnt it

[dapper skiff]

Burn

[livid lark]

lol you messed up

[hexed idol]

bwhahahaha

[nova forum]

Now I feel less regret after spending 12 memo USB for daren

[obsidian raft]

Does tenbrion's dark shred from his qte and SS stack?

[dapper skiff]

Must've been desperately looking signature move for the bottom memories top slot

[livid lark]

how do you even get that
signature move doesnt exist for the top reso

[dapper skiff]

[dapper skiff]

It does

[livid lark]

💀

[opaque ridge]

💀

[obsidian raft]

So like 25% dark shred?

[dapper skiff]

Basically

[obsidian raft]

Wouldn't that make him better than daren as qte bot

[dapper skiff]

Too bad that teneb is Soo bad at applying that 25% on the enemies especially when they're multiple enemies