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Who would they make an umbra amplifier anyway
CW so weak in her Affix that Kuro has to cook something way too overpowered as the enabler
the affixes are set up way in advance
Glacio has been there since wanshi but didn't have content until selena
That's why it's taking time
i mean glaciation content only came this patch

but wanshi came out with it almost a year ago in cn
They REALLY wanted to push glacio this patch with the double glacio unit lmao

gen 3 ice amp umbra affix kamui frfr
i mean
I imagine they'll probably rush the rest of the affixes too
one new affix and one leap affix is not that strange
Imagine
Lightning Attacker Umbrasurge Executor Kamui
i wanna see how they deal with umbra since cw leap was pretty long time ago
they did that before
triple if u count alisa 
CW leap got no work
ts is already considered bad
time to be punishing gay raven
I mean yeah but iirc we've never seen both be geared towards one affix until now?
where do i get memory resonance mats?
we did
45 blue orbs 
kind of
CW got rejected even before she applied for the job
how many shards from SS to SS3?
resources stage
27
27
10/10
thank
how they managed to mess up the leaps so bad its amazing
You got SS0 Glaciation performance?
SS selena no sig or SSS+ teddy for support
teddy
Daren leap wasn't on lucia patch and balter leap wasn't on hanying patch so unless I'm missing something, wr haven't
Wait I meant SSS selena
I think I had found something but it was like, day 2 so it's probably really outdated by now
I'll see if I can find it anyway
I just wanna see how it works at SS0
Seen too many SSS
i said "kinda", you're technically right but
- trueslash content came out with balter leap
- daren leap came out same time that lucia was leaked which is kind of a stretch but yknow

dammit, im off the top 10 on hero wz
I wanted fun leaps again but kuro just stopped doing them over meta affix sht

3s selena 
because it would be funny beating 3s
no pride in beating 3s players that are demoting from hero, because that just means you're beating noobs that have no idea how to play

Your dark already 3S tho
true
he meant top 10 in the personal ranking in whole server 
Hey should i use tenebrion dark or no. 21 for dark tank?
i hope the game doesnt brick me with a dupe again
21
let teneb die 
ok ok and how to build her

I have a question, does watanabe auto parries?
4 bathlon 2 eins
Epitaph one
yes during blaze orbs
yeah
absolutely not
who do i pick
ok so teneb is useless yeah?
once her free dupe comes i can get her to 3s though
save it for like a hanying or a lucia or an ish in the future
how much shard we can buy at voucher exchange ?
depends on ur acc man
yea but i aint gonna solomi
yeah you are

3s cw still isn't enough to swap unless your feral is also up to par
Ohhhh I thought it was buggin, I was fighting echo with him and just auto parries everything by standing idle
yes. he has scatter in his qte which will not apply shred properly so 21 who has gather or crowd control is better
isnt feral just a qte bot there
Wrong tho
bro cw is the qte bot
@livid lark think there's any ss0 glacio content on bili?
3s cw is min to swap
oh shucks i forgot my feral is ss3
Still dunno how I got that Abnormal battle data error
3s cw is literally not a dps gain with ss0 feral
Tried using google translate and got completely unrelated results lmao
3s cw will be free so everyone can do swap
im pretty new, i got luna laurel and oblivion, watanabe and ember and teddy and n. 21 and pretty much free characters from story or other stuff

so what, i get a dupe feral and wait for free dupe for 3s?
Do we know whats the upcoming ppc or nah
"free" ???
leap cw no?
whel stuff
Voucher
it's not free if you still need to spend 48k vouchers lmao
lmao
“Technically” free
esp when wanshi and lilith and all the other amps still exist
Gl waiting 1 yr tho
get empyrea from this patch selector and lucia plume if u want ice dps or luna for dark dps. and like beginner selector anyone u want cuz all are eh
i have to save up like 256k vouchers for lilith how in tarnation will i do that
At what point is Alisa better than fully leaped lumi?
I have her at SS no sig unfortunately
immediately
gonna skip wanshi 3s ngl
I don't think SSS feral is 100% mandatory, but it would be nice to have
but ig getting a feral dupe is still kinda worse than potentially getting some char SS3
or an additional dupe to get SSS easier
lmao
Literally at any point
just put on 4 signa and she's better than lumi
Oh, neat
damn s+ Lilith massive whale

magma tested, ss3 feral is minimum for swap to be viable even with 3s cw 
so empyrea?
i will simp for crazy purple gambling woman
Yeah there's extremely niche scenarios where luminance might be a bit better and only if you're lacking harmo on Alisa, otherwise Alisa is better almost completely
what does SS3 feral even do in that context
shorter rotation

i do have a ss3 feral
she's doing zero damage cuz she's on support set anyway
you can cut off feral's rotation but then it's not a dps gain over solo nanami
We'll still have to test how everything works with 5* nanami
cause as it is it's barely a sidegrade
i just need 2 dupes, but not too sure if its worth 2 dupes for 100% more amp buff
it's not an actual gain until sss feral

like ok let me say it like this, assuming 3s cw
ss0 feral - dps loss
ss3 feral - dps neutral
sss feral - dps gain
No
if below 3s cw then it's just impossible, solo nanami
Feral could get replaced anytime now lol
what are the important things i should use serum on, so i dont waste em

Lilith just came out
usually you use serum on event material stage
You mean dark tank
you get almost all your resources from event shop
lightning mb
memories?
event shop has memories as well as most other things
Event farming stage (called phantom moon this patch), story, maybe coop if you're completely new and need 5* weps
I'll be gone on Monday-Tuesday what do I dooo
how do i reach authority level 25
and how long before nanami drops? wouldnt it be better to have a 3s feral on standby during the wz malding session?
everything is there. memories, overclock mat, level up mat everything
keep spending serum
alr thanks
I wonder how strong the new light attacker has to be in order to outdps startrail lmao
how do i check my authority level
Right side of the screen
time stop when swapped in till swap out frfr
they'll probably make the attacker stronger but also completely dependent on nanami,, like lucia and wata

literally shown in the image
And pianissimo
I appreciate their attempt at encouraging swap gameplay but they already goofed BADLY by adding swap cd reduction on tanks
how much of a boost is 3s amp buff anyways
this literally just another dark
Good luck making 3 units rotatable on a sss tank team anymore💀
ss3 sig,sss sig

is 60 shard is the limit we can buy from voucher shop ?
they never learn
Double in case of any gen 2 amps
100% boost 
to be fair this was bound to happen when they left lightning alone for so long
In case of lilith she already has their "doubled" value at base S
yup
mb worded wrongly, for like cw or nanami
yess
It literally is
if you don't give a huge powercreep then lightning still sucks which is sad
if you give a huge powercreep then the power balance of the team invest is thrown off
Yeah
literally just a consequence of them putting 2 light S ranks b2b
60 shard is discount amount
always buy discounted
this will reset next month and u will be able to buy more
originally it is: 20.
yeah
It's miraculous they managed to avoid this problem with ice
isnt ayla even more of a qte bot
huh? they didn't avoid the problem with ice at all
atleast for ice there's still 2 S ranks gaps
that's exactly the problem that happened with ice
light literally had 0 s ranks to gap
ice was left alone for so long that when qu came it was such a power balance upset that qu was solo no matter what invest
that's like the very definition of ruined power balance within the team
I meant after wanshi
oh ye plume and glory was short too
well yeah because between qu and wanshi was not that long
But yeah pre wanshi it was the most extreme case of that
I meant that they could've fcked up wanshi's dmg output enough where he has to qte bot unless he's sss
Which thankfully they didn't
i remembering suffering on ice for 1.5 year straight 
ice amp powercreeping qu huh... 

dark was
awful too
Lmao garnet was good for her time at least
omg fekiwilao
That's actually a possibility funny enough
i loved playing my scuffed laurel dark that was actually swap worthy...because everyone was equally broke
112 555 
@clever schooner i think this is peak for 3.133, chaining on 19 20 was crazy
The fact she's sub dps if paired with teddy will never not be funny
i had been running laurel 21 vera till lamia dropped
Tbh she was kinda revolutionary
i actually really enjoyed how the laurel team rotation flowed, when played at a high level
obv i didn't get to experience it myself cause brokie
but xeno used to stream wz in here back then
She was a super well designed character she only died because of gen 2
and watching him play it looked so beautiful
she was called wz queen for a reason
everything lined up so perfectly
Rip wz queen and ppc queen
then the nier team attacked
Their reigns of terror were memorable
so i should keep my guaranteed arrival... but then at that point ill get like ss3s on most of them anyways...
I never thought to watch nier wz runs lmao
jeremey have them
hold AA spam 
They paved the way for balter 🫶
Watch me mald live @ https://www.twitch.tv/yumcookies
Ice hero Warzone rotation 7.18.22 - 7.20.22 / North America
Week 2 playing around with NieR in warzone. Honestly it's a pretty easy comp to play due to how A2's play is but if you want to get to max score you'll still need your warzone mechanics. Nier definitely outscores plume in ice righ...
what in the....
currently my lightning is 2.132.1 312 111, but if nanami comes ill have a 2.12.12.1 3?2 1?1, then isnt she a solo?
I got Luna in 7 pulls! Do I go to the 60 guarantee again?
that was the prime wz 
back then 5-600k on hero was big now we have wizards

proooobably? you can try swapping but it probably will be a sidegrade at best
goofy ahh buff
also f u for getting early 
thankfully they removed those
Bonjour, considering hyperlee is gonna be replaced, this fire team is viable right?
||I got hyperlee like last or 2 patches before as well as his sign, but i didnt put a single ounce of material||
i thought full invested nier was pretty fun ngl
Ah off ele wz
it was really fast pace switching
NO
ye
if leap cw comes i would have a 32.12.1, is 3s feral really not that worth?
assuming brs holds support set,ye
Please don't ss3 luna is ass 😭
tho not really for s+, A2 s+ is busted
she can in her ult from really long lmao
its just last forever if you play it right
I can't believe my wata empy duo dps wz isn't far from the norm now lmao
Long live empyrea ‼️
the zazas innovation
the brs is pointless here
yeah with 3s you really need to get the rots down or else you lose a2 zerker status and brick the run
yep I played s+ A2
that shid is broken af
unless for qte bot
Empy leap hype asf
probably not worth for the same reasons that capri isn't worth for dark rn
aight then
like yeah you could make swap viable if you got 3s feral but it's just to make it viable
not even a big score increase
i guess i wont really be using that guaranteed arrival anytime soon then
all that investment for basically no gain other than a neutral playstyle change
And then a new attacker drops and makes even s feral usable anyway because they and startrail take up 99% of field time
Yeah not worth going through all that
made for plume frfr
is luna our 3.5 annis rn
So far i got her SSS+ harmo with 4 shakes and hanna. My rotation is wata main - BRS 9ping ult - empy core.
Should i switch BRS to supp?
no wishing banner bricked
to be fair
if a new attacker drops feral becomes more useful since amp passive is guaranteed to be beneficial
with nanami you're fighting to make solo viable vs swap where amp passive isn't used
it literally does not matter since it's just qte slave
I mean that's true but my point is she's not necessary since she doesn't participate in rotations
Also new amp wave will be coming so it's pointless to invest in her like that atp
wait yes wtf
change hannah to support set
my dumbass misread
yes
Well yes
sss+ harmo
so when new wanshi comes out does cow have any field time or is it just qu and wanshi?
yall have fun with that
Oh, so wata main + empy sub still remain supreme? ic
😭😭😭
honestly that zaza might as well works
S+ brs outdps pyrooath confirmed
Is this right?
if 3s wanshi, cow 0 field time
if below 3s wanshi, cow gets like 2s field time
basically same as void rn with 3s vs non 3s wata
wtf no
it's cottie assuming you already have 4cleo in her mem slot
S+ brs is the gen 3 fire attacker trust
if you harmo cleo then you essentially have 6x cleo
Zaza? @carmine reef ?
Never seen anyone put 4cottie on the main memory set but sure
huh
which
is useless
why am i getting pinged
zaza is just slang for stupid builds
She's basically just there for timestop procs to stall dlt/cooldowns lmaoooo
i have signa on my alisa harmo
Why would you say that. That just makes people ping you for no reason @carmine reef
that may ot not works
Ohhh okay I'll change it to cottie then?
Ohhh okay I'll change it to cottie then?
Intriguing
yes
Oh, i thought u u refer to Zexous
Okie
lmao
Wait what's your main memory set
Whoa2,slow down there buds...stop slandering Ayla

i'm just using their terminology
I'll spam ping you then
i have no hate for ayla personally
Give me the name,I gonna do some manhunt
scroll up
Oh then yeah you need cottie on the harmonization
ok yes change that harmo to cottie
Nvm, I'll do it later
♿
fat cow no rights
no field rights
just like how she will never see selena ever again after the event at stellaris
stellaria idr
Is the check event resetting next patch?
Wanshi?
yeap like the standard A rank banner where you get your chosen S rank upon hitting 60 pulls
I am saving it for either Wanshi or Solacetune, dunno which one is worth getting first but ill just get the other one in the next patch
going to assume you have epitaph
yeap!
then just get ss3 hanying
no like maybe future gens make weaker gens swappable
your account should be liveable enough for hero retain
huh, no wanshi then? isn't he super good for ice team?
Not lucia?
Wanshi via vouchers
definitely not
future gens will make swap viable by replacing the weaker ones
or atleast somewhat hero promo every often
You don't need dupes for him
so hanying is a must and wanshi is skippable?
iirc aether said the sched wouldn't line up,so no lucia on blue standard?
imagine if its like a lee lucia situation, and the rotation will brick if you dont swap to the qte bot
no s rank is skippable
but wanshi is free so you can skip on pulling him
but you still need to have him
He's not ACTUALLY "shippable" he's just a free unit that you can ss3-sss for free via vouchers
SHIPPABLE
But you don't actually pull him yeah
Ooh okay, i dunno if i have any trade vouchers so ill prolly not get him for a while
WE MAKIN IT TO AO3 WITH THIS ONE LADS
HELPPP
RJEHHEHEHE
first copy is from dorm dispatch
oh wait did you mean the new check coming in ishmael or smth
rank ups is from vouchers tho ye
if yes then ss3 pyro is good too
nope i have my check event from anni, it will be reset in the ishmael patch right?
ye
100%
but may not be optimised
Ooh okay I did not know that, thanks!
instead of ss3 we get ao3 wanshi huh
then just ss3 hanying
use new check on ss3 pyro (or save it)
Yeah me and Ezra wanna see it pls
How do I properly say "I came up with..."
Im pretty sure I botched that sentence lol
for sure, ill go for that
ss0 sele and the rest are 3.0 right

pls tell me that were the invest you looking
Waiting for AO3 wanshi

i couldnt imagine how bad is full crippled 2.0 glacial
blud really wants that wanshi x reader sleepy asmr
noway fel invest
so once nanami lands will feral be qte bot or swap if possible
this is 233 invest
cause solo is so not fun lmao
5m vid in 100mb...
sss sig leap cw
ss3 sig feral
minimum for swap
ss3 feral hardly matters in this case
dang
eh not like anyone swapping anyway
um there's like ss0 piano and ss3 or sss echo + sss wanshi
@buoyant hornet
Any tips to improve stigmata dmg?
what invest though?
ss0 + sig?
s0 5*
I got neither

ok yep knew it
wait for hanying next patch and solo with solacetune
you need that for balter to be properly usable
does liv empyrea , luna oblivion and watanabe work together? or is teddy better than liv
Damn that sucks
yes
teddy isnt better than liv no
How much does hypertune help btw
never in a million years
How to get more xp
我想到了给塞琳娜新的小名?Idk that’s how I would’ve typed it 
Spend serum and do student/mentor missions
My students aren't doing shi tho
should i upgrDe all skills of liv
ss 5* stigmata is way too noticable difference from s5
So hypertune is basically just for border pact bonuses?
Cuz they be offline
s0 is stucked to 40 stacks
5* means no crit dmg bonus
Can I buy stigmata shards from voucher exchange?
Hypertune so expeinze sia
Oh if you’re a mentor then yea your exp growth is slowed because you can’t claim exp from student mentor missions anymore
lucia patch yes, but not recommended
hypertune on bottom row gives dmg on its own on top of sequence pact bonus
hypertune on top row is just dmg from sequence pact ya
not worth,her replacement is coming in 5 months qnyway
my students finally graduated today im so happy
I am here to preach the need for stylish mode once more
no
i also had a student graduate today 
go preach in rexlent server or reddit
When last did you feel genuine and true satisfaction from killing a boss 
There’s this new fire Lucia coming, is it worth saving for her at all? I usually go for s05*
babel exist
Reddit already covered
Rex

it's called 580k bosses
Wasn't this patch ez tho?
also 600k
600k you mean?
just artificially make it harder
look above 4head
no
no one is functional at S0 5*
you should always go for SS0 AT LEAST
PPC shop exists
you can get everyone SS for free
Ti's a dps check!
If not 580k then swipe again 
i have 2 grads but ehh i dunno should i keep them or what
Whats causing my character to be locked in place?
Br stylish mode would naturally be a challenge 
that's why selena hates you
and the rewards are?
Alisa's ability I believe
i have 2 student at lvl 80
i keep them just in case they still need it
alisa ult
How does it work
just be higher hp and tank it
Satisfaction 
what skills should i upgrade for empyrea
It takes a long while though, more so when I have a backlog of non ss characters. By the time I save enough ppc skulls for ss on a specific unit they get powercrept anyways so I gotta run that back everytime
you can dodge the chains
but it's hard to explain how
What rewards does babel give 
BC
after that you're done
Its unavoidable?
styling mode isn't special
Also I gotta enjoy wz as much as I can cause its ruined next patch NOOOOO
Does anyone know if daren's build changes when lilith drops?
you can dodge the chains
but it's hard to explain how
in an essence and tldr,yes
Wdym styling mode isn't special 
tank it
the atk does 7k hp
💀
so be a higher hp than it, then parry all attacks she throws ar you
it does not take a long while
if you actually learn how to do PPC properly you can SS every new char consistently
backlog yeah, you'll either have to give up on that or slowly work through it with whatever extra skulls you have, leftovers from SSing new chars

will hanying's mem change after selena drops btw
dodge to the side, don't try to dodge to the front or back
just like my ex frfr
oh so you can actually dodge thr chain

You
You good bro 
i didn't even realise it
I usually get 1 million progress on the ultimate zone. By that reference exactly how long will it take to get a unit to ss?
alright thanks
yeah it always works if i dodge to the left/right
i will try
Wait
Rewards are dropping to 2x next patch
I'll feel so poor NOOOOo
if ur getting 1 million ur obviously doing something INCREDIBLY wrong
Can you show the ss3 alisa one? It's at least more similar to my ss0 alisa invest
obviously timing is there as well but it's not hard
downbad.....
should i level up all of empyreas skills?
because you should be getting half a mil more even with really broke invest
is alisa ult matrix avoidable too? other than not attacking her
ok thanks lol
ok
My bad, it’s 1.1m

are you autoclearing it or something
Lmao no
like genuinely even new players score better
idk what you could possibly be doing to get 1.1mil in ultimate
I got 1 ss unit and that’s echo
epitaph where
I use Veritas, cw and stigmata + echo team
VERITAS
Now I got Luna so Veritas is being replaced
IN 2025
She’s my favourite unit
what's ult matrix?
Oh
they really need to update their newcomer select pack lmao
you use the correct teammates for them right
arclight/lux for CW, Rosetta for stigmata+Alisa?
the one if you attack her, she will do matrix and place a red mark on you
free cw
it works just like the twins matrix 
Yes that exact team
just dodge the attack
i mean yeah just dodge when she's about to shoot the arrow
Does seem like the case
that means no ss cw nor stigmata ss?
then I'm afraid it's just a case of learning how to play
Or they're just playing very wrong idk
Nope, cw at s5 and stigmata s0
yea.....not enough
cw at s5 is ridiculously weak
Luna s and veritas s5
i like how when i matrix with luna, the twins will counter matrix, but both of us are in matrix so nothing happens for like 20 seconds
just
ignore veritas aite
where's your epitaph, Shukra, lamia
ok sorry my bad i misread stuff
this is a 233 run with ss0 piano
【[战区/覆冰队]Ss赛琳娜·希声轮切760w流程-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/0gRUXuk
I got none of those
returner?
Indeed
How much should I be getting on ppc anyways
is alisa worth beyond 3s
1.75-1.8mil
is a decent built f2p score bracket
depending on week can be higher
That’s not that far right? This ppc I didn’t use Luna or stigmata since I got them after but maybe next ppc I’ll be getting closer
Let's say 1.5 for new players
yeah for new players you can at least aim to hit the 1.55m threshold
nah don't bother
hero 6.13m
So like s0 is just ass
it's been ass since after garnet
@ripe stag
s0 is unplayable
compared to anything else
like some chars are straight not properly functional
That really sucks, no wonder my highest dps unit is Alisa echo
without SS
also that depends if hypertuned + perfect memory reso
Ok got it, secret is to mash harder 
wait... this shouldnt be for ppc ib right..?
Counter point
4 eins
surely you swap with 2 guin right?
So which unit should I ss first?
Luna , cw, veritas, stigmata or rigor
luna
i had it set for cottie fran, but i dunno why i changed my mems to davin eins
Secret is to use Garnet DPS and CW QTE bot
ss luna hard carries more than ss cw
Keep at CW S6 permanently
SS your Luna
So….. bench CW forever essentially
I heard that we’re getting her and her sig for free, maybe ill ss her then
and if you get nanaknight to ss +sig, you will also bench cw
Below SSS she'll be not even in team to be used in when we get her free
Thanks a lot everyone
which skill I should focus on Guardrake? is there a guide? its been awhile since I got a new CUB
is it me or davin eins feral is better than fran?
last two? alright, thx
basically for all signature cubs the priority is always the same
first the signature passive
then the elemental damage bonus passive
then the edb% one > flat ATK > cub DMG %
luna
does every next character need there sig
i see 🤔
everyone wants their sig since luna
Alternative Support Sub-DPS Set
Alternative Support Sub-DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Sub-DPS set for SS3 rank and higher in a Crimson Weave main DPS team.
Allows for double rotations; SS3+ & DLT needed to pull off effectively
4x Fran
2x Cottie
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Core Passive
Guinevere
just stick with 5* weap if it meant skipping future units
ok but like you can definitely skip a few of them right like wanshi sig ?(F2p perspective)
oh nvm

if skipping wanshi sig means you can pull pyroath, then yes
Having every future limited s rank > missing out DPS due too sigless. It's cope but still better than missing out the freaking upcoming unit🥹
But but synchro gives more bc 
I can easily guarantee pulling every character and I can probably get 1 sig for every 2 characters released
Ofc this is from f2p perspective not leviathan issue
then you just need some planning
start computing and estimate how many weeks per patch
yea like which sigs should I be skipping and which should I be getting
??? I thought it would have killed uncle for sure 
hanying and pyroath sig good
Bro stop misinfo,this is freaking sync literally meant everything is sped up. Those f2p gonna brick their account if they didn't plan well with their bc
rn I have enough to guarantee hanying+sig and have around 2500 left over not including all the bc i will get in hanying patch
🥹 
then once hanying patch is here, start computing weeklies + events
Cant misinfo if they’re the ones preaching it
alr
Qu swaps out of chen jiyuan after adversity right? If she does, anyone know what she runs after he comes out
They both run chen
should I lev up camu crocotta skills?
whats better on ib ppc, fran cottie or davin eins feral?
some say qu uses 2 dar 2 chej, or use 4 cottie
no
When exactly will I be able to make the ice team or the lightning team?
unless u like him ig
uh whyy
Do they stack or is it just better for ice shred uptime on their damage rots?
he's not good?
uniframes = obsolete
due too double A rank patch that's stacked up with Luna oblivion ,we feel we do have abundance of BC.
Spend your bc wisely, especially for f2p
im a new player what that means lol
this is the only content left for uniframes
and it has trials too
Which one between S Rank Selena and SSS+ Rank Teddy is better as a dark team amp/healer?
so no point investing on uniframes
Depends if you’ve harmo’d kale and lucid
basically uniframes aren't really that useful or do anything in this game tbh
uniframes are like a failed expirement you can kind of just ignore them
Old character lineup that's is forgotten meta wise
they were never meta though

Non harmo wanshi has to hold eins
Sorry, who is kale, is lucid referring to wanshi lucid? Is Kale chrome?
I see
wasn't selena equal to veritas at some point
kinda
Kaleido ayla
Alternative Support Set
QTE Support Healer/Buffer
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
QTE Bot Set
4x Da Vinci
2x Guinevere
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Class Passive
Guinevere
needs some higher invest tempest to match veritas
Imagine uniframe wz
i have teddy noctise lee chrome
I'm running Luna Oblivion, Empyrea and Watanabe... Biacana Stigmata, Alisa Echo and Liv Luminance... Lamia, Scire and Capriccio
probably better then a ranks
When will I be able to make ice or lightning exactly?
not planning on reso'ing kaleido's wep so I'll prep chen jiyuan build for adversity, thank you
Only until they remove that weird debuff at least
isn't it removed next patch
Anyone?
wait for lucid dream wanshi next patch (ice tank)
There's a really great ice unit next patch
teddy
Tedy
Thank you
isn't he also really hard to use
Selena under SSS rank has no use
i already have trouble using qu I'm cookee
better than NOT having an ice unit
Is he the main damage dealer of the team?
qu is main dps, but if you don't have qu, use wanshi
is wanshi also ganna be orb hungry or can he maybe even solo
Well depends on rank
Does wata need ss?
He's
Legit
Opposite of being orb hungry
cope until nanaknight
surely this guy won't outscore me right
Yea sure
He won't
S+ CW so he's probably trash. You good
You are S+ player
oh support feral in ppc is miles better
Ofc no shi
Dawg do my fire
i thought her fran set would at least help lol
no
I can't wait to have a proper fire team... It feels weird using Luna Oblivion for it
No it doesn't
Feral's self harming kit really is detrimental for the score so no one in their right mind uses feral in ppc as DPS
do you not have watanabe?
Yeah. I got him like you guys said on here
Then ? You have a proper fire team
then wait for pyroath to pair her with wata
he can basically solo carry your fire team
Watanabe, Liv Emyprea and Scire
pair him up with bridget and then you go
it's onslaught so it's not like he's running cw solo
watanabe liv emperya and Bridget would be much better
you should have her at sss+ for free
I also got Watanbe signature weapon as well
does bridget help as qte bot?
Yeah. My bridget is leveled. Why her particularly?
she just holds eins memory for wata
Solo cw is possible for copers
Why would I need another tank exactly?
im using eins on empy tho...
then you can use harmo alisa 4dv 4 guin
is summoning on the cub or weapon banner worth or no?
element synergy
scire has dark def reduction
bridget has fire def reduction
then empy holds 4 shake 2 eins
F2ps barely can

so empy alisa and wata my fire team?
for now yes
better to only pull when ur very rich and can guarantee next s rank
for ppc, you'll have to ask how to split the units
since here he said to just solo wata so is having two amplifiers needed?
your Empy would be on sub DPS memories so you need some QTE slave to hold einsteina and other support memories
someone need to hold eins
And buff fire
Empy at SS can do both
so s is not enough therefore i just solo wata with this build?
ooof, base s
yea just solo wata
what set should i use on garnet and xxi?
21 being feral right?
yes
nah just S
2 Guin 4 DV
I got watanabe
On Feral
and no sig, and yea CW is in team
2 Eins 4 Tifa on Garnet
what shiyori said
CW invest ?
S with sig
How does this look for teams exactly?
Rosetta where
@ebon adder hello
you need a tank in your phys team
don't make the main dps your starter
hii
I don't own a physical tank yet
^also this
b nanami will suffice
ah ok just making sure its right thank you
ok
should I lev up all skills to lev 19 watanabe
you will in about 3 weeks
Who exactly do I make my starter?
yes since wata will be your main fire dps
Ezra you mentioned that wanshi isn't orb hungry?
at least until two more patches
Do I make my DPS my starter?
won't ask who you wasted your free s rank selector on, but you can set last use brilliance, storm or bastion
Starter Bridget
no
Leader wata
the weakest member of the team generally
WANSHI* not wata
or whoever is in the swap order before your main dps
rotation wise
Okaa
if you're even rotating
damn, i definitely could have gotten more time if luna didnt take her sweet bloody time doing her hold ba
Hmm that sounds like pretty good news for people who'll have to solo
Especially with ss3 giving the free 3ping
About that
Drifting Memories
Frost Corrosion effect applied by Wanshi: Lucid Dreamer increases by 10%. Signal Orb recovery rate increases by 100% during Bullet Hail. Base DMG of Cryonic Explosion increases by 200%. Base DMG of Airdropped Revolver and Effulgent Shatter increases by 100%.
Frost Corrosion effect applied by Wanshi: Lucid Dreamer increases by 10%. Base DMG of Diamond Dust performed by Wanshi: Lucid Dreamer increases by 30%. When performing Hyperlinked Flight or Ruinous Blizzard in Calibration Mode, increases their Base Multiplier by 1.5 times. When Wanshi: Lucid Dreamer has the maximum number of Wounding stacks, Base DMG of Hyperlinked Flight additionally increases by 60%. Reduces swap cooldown of all party members by 3s; this cannot be stacked with other swap cooldown-reducing effects.
any idea why is luna not insta hold ba-ing
Solo Wanshi is weirdly energy inefficient
Probably you didn't 3 + 3 pings before hold basic
but i did that...
Lmaooo so he'd need cottie?
Nah
It'll just be slow
But rest assured if you know how to use him bro's gonna nuke
Like awful slow or slowish
Is this better for starters?
You got clip ?
neat, because I'll have sigless wanshi and hanying
is it because of the cub?
didn't do the hold ba cancel in first form before trying it in 2nd?
because you either do that or do the uhh weak hold ba in 2nd form to activate eclipse stance to be able to do the strong ba hold
So I make all the healers starters?
Don't use Capriccio in dark
Use Teddy
And yes it's fine
Also
Wata will be in both Fire and Nihil
just look at the gauge at the bottom of the screen
if it's the half circle thingy then you don't have eclipse stance in 2nd form
you can yes
Sigless
I think solo will need DLT actually
Swap doesn't
starter is usually the weakest member
right now it just so happens that the healers are usually the weakest member, but this isn't always the case
He gives back the orbs he used
sigless hanying can rotate within 1 rot?
or 2 with some work arounds?
Sigless Hanying
Wait
DUDE YOU SIG LESS?
Isn't that like a major loss
ATK increases by 10%. Piercing Strike effect applied by Hanying: Solacetune increases by 20%. DMG increase effect from consecutive casts of Azure Allure can stack up to 3 times. Triggering Phoenix Down additionally grants 50 points of Veiled Edge.
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I'll be sigless from now on until selena
Why ?
You don't wanna make Selena no solo or something?
Who exactly do I slot into my physical tank exactly?
imma backpull sigs later
Use Storm till next patch drops
Next patch has new Physical Tank who's also the Main-DPS
nanami storm
Ayla brilliance
kamui bastion
all work
Just use rosetta
as very cope options
Just use Brilliance or Bastion
I'm fairly sure ss 5* hanying is still stronger than rigor

I'll deal with skych later
Yea
I hope you die of the pain in ppc
I can get ss3 hanying though
what does ss3 hanying buff other than TS?
10% more shred ?
A Magpie, Perched on the Branch
Gains 3 Signal Orbs every time Hanying: Solacetune enters the battlefield. While in Way of Strife, Extra DMG Bonus increases by 15%. Mingling Moon and Lantern effect applied by Hanying: Solacetune increases by 50%; Penetrating Pivot effect increases by 5%.
Base DMG amplifying effect from each consecutive cast of Azure Allure increases to 100%. While in Way of Strife, triggers a single cast of Phoenix Down upon completely filling Complex Time points inside Moonsong Realm. Extra DMG of Trueslash performed by Hanying: Solacetune increases by 100%. Penetrating Pivot effect applied by Hanying: Solacetune increases by 10%. Reduces swap cooldown of all party members by 3s; this cannot be stacked with other swap cooldown-reducing effects.
what exactly is this? def shred or phy shred?
Bruh just get her sig instead of SS3 rn and SS3 her later
phys
Wait let me check a sec
ss3 via base banner bro
she's capped out on her def shred with SS and sig
Res Shred and Buff terms for Elements
- Ice
- Frost Crystal - Buff
- Frost Corrosion - Res Shred
- Fire
- Fire Tempered - Buff
- Scorching Invasion - Res Shred
- Dark
- Dark Radiation - Buff
- Chain Fusion - Red Shred
- Lightning
- Lightning Surge - Buff
- Turbulent Interference - Res Shred
- Physical
- Ultralimit Torque - Buff
- Lance of Perception (Rosetta: Rigor) - Def Shred
- Piercing Strike (Hanying: Solacetune) - Def Shred
- Penetrating Pivot - Res Shred
- Void
- Disintegration - Buff
- Collapse Singularity - Res Shred
and this is assuming balter holds cath?
My handy ah chart for the names
I lose how much shred assuming 4 sig 2 cath hanying?
and 20% Cath
ATK increases by 10%. Piercing Strike effect applied by Hanying: Solacetune increases by 20%. DMG increase effect from consecutive casts of Azure Allure can stack up to 3 times. Triggering Phoenix Down additionally grants 50 points of Veiled Edge.
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I lose 20% def shred without weap then
20% def shred from sig
15% res shred from 4 Patton
8% res shred from R1
Also missing stackable TS damage buff

Swordpower
Sword power
Ok so can anyone describe how TS works
There's a certain Korean video about it
Yes
I'm not a squid games character to understand that
Try ocr that

How does TS work ?
DMG increase effect from consecutive casts of Azure Allure can stack up to 3 times.
ahem
Note the Center point number and the rightunder side number
What exactly is the purpose of tanks in this game?
these words mean nothing to me magic man

Yea i saw it
what?
Those two of them are all u need to know
Why is it normal to put the weakest unit as a starter?
One can’t exceed more than 10
reducing enemy resistances
also often sub DPS and sometimes main dps
The other can stack more than that
When performed consecutively, the Base DMG of Azure Allure increases by 50% every cast. This effect can stack up to twice, and subsequent casts of Azure Allure will retain the maximum multiplier after the Base DMG increase effect reaches the maximum value.
ahem
Which one? The bottom one ?
*often main dps
so you can immediately swap to the main dps and give them extra sig energy
roll the damn sig
Wouldn't I want a healer to not be a starter and swapped into?
2 stack meters
instantly swapping in into your main DPS allows you to get free energy from the swapin skill and benefit from amp buff
Wouldn't I always want my amplifier going first?
It doesn't matter
no because then you wont get a buff

You get the buff from swapping from any unit

It doesn't need to be from amp > unit
amp class triggers on any swap
Oh, so it works just having an amplifier in my team?
yup
Yeah
I didn't know that
amp buff does not exclusively work when swapping off/on the amp
it affects any swap on the team
the key word being all here
DOes the tank debuff work on any unit also?
The one which cannot exceed more than 10 transfers its deducted numbers into the other stacking gimmick
no
Or does the tank have to hit for it to go off?
the tank needs to hit the enemy
Tank needs ti hit
the tank has to hit
and that's only for the class passive
not the res shred that's different
Deducted numbers ?
Man my brain
the res shred will have a specific requirement
Why do you guys prefer Teddy over Selene for the Dark team?
Geez how much HP does this cradle have? She's even more tanky than ballard
Teddy is just the cheaper option if Selena isn't SSS
selena has less buffs if non-sss
selena requires a lot of investment to be usable
Swap dark team is very expensive and you use amps when you swap most of the time
33 mil intensive battle cradle
Ballard has 17 mil
also cradle buffs are random
It's just that Selena is so bad that she actually can't be a qte bot
Is there a replacement for Watanabe in my void team?
Is it okay to finish her in 1:30? 
Wanshi S but he's not as good
yes but they wont help luna as much
What if I wanna run 4 teams in content?
You need 6
uh wdym
yea you need 6
well it's technically 5.5
6 rn
Later 11
There's game modes where you need 4 unique teams, right?

Yes but it's better to have 6
yes but they revolve around the 6 teams we mentioned
you need 11
Don't most of the 11 teams overlap though?
They prob wont have affix for a while
overlap in members not in usage
you can't just sub in lightning team for ion content
What is an ion team exactly?
new element
A lot of these teams aren't in global yet xD
"yet"
that changes next patch
yeah but with acceleration they will be
lucia is like literally in what 2 months
and you'll have to learn ion and trueslash teams
along with new fire team
Isn't true slash just the old physical team though?
yet doing trueslash setup is off-element when used in physical
buffs of main element buffs affix dmg
Ion and True Slash teams coming this March
lol This system is very convoluted
Yes but slightly different rotation which makes them do True Slash Damage instead of Physical Damage.
You know how Scire works right ?
Do these new elements play differently?
yes
Yes
I believe so
You know how she spins when you hold basic attack and consume 3 pings right ?
Yes
That deals dark damage
different dmg typing different rotation entirely
Very wierd
Karenina or liv?
Which selector
that's what all new leaps are for
they add affix element on a new rotation
the old element remains the same
What did liv empyrea get recently?
just leap without affix
Empyrea > Scire if you don't have both
liv doesn't get anything her leap was released before affixes
Nothing
That's just QoL
Affix leaps start next patch


