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Oh liuliu 
sasuga cashcow character 
do we have a cow character
Not enough 
Where's her gacha skin?
Bro lmao

There is one
Main Support Set
QTE Support Healer/Buffer
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Main post-Shukra QTE Support Set
Recommended for all ranks
Harmony Set (Requires Harmony on Signature 6 Weapon)*
4x Da Vinci
2x Samantha/Gloria/Lantern Festival: Reunion
2x Guinevere (Harmony)
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Class Passive
HAHAHAHAHA

Assuming that thereās ppl still playing this trash game when she comes out is quite insane
Dmc
even I was top 10 in wz last round
||totally not cuz I booli leader wz
||
Pull for DMC A ranks to find theyāre bad and then leave
when you top up 10k rc 
why is your team actually putting in work than mine
If I had that rc, I wouldnt be skipping sigs
team is gone next patch tho 
damn good riddance
yeah it never did anything anyway
For a combined patch, this update has felt extremely dead
I have no events to di 
You want to know how it's gonna be even more dead? After dmc collab 
"combined patch"
they removed almost all events from 2 patches, leaving only 1 patch worth of events anyway lul
I want my cat grab back
gibbe serum 
Fk whel
Can I introduce you to the top up store for serum purchase 
Just remove the F2P from your name after
ahoy, fellow whel 
Fk whel
The next spending event is in pyroath patch right?
Yep
I'll skip monthlies for next patch then
Whel
Weāre probably getting spending events every patch after the next
Because of integrated patches
Double spending event >>>
they'll never catch me! 

Whel
Man this 68rc bp tier is an actual scam
Just run faster than your spending temptation fr
aye
Ew told me BP is good
Ye but heās whale whale
U get less than 2x30 rc tier and it costs 8 rc more

are ppc skulls and vouchers the only way to raise ayla to sss?
5k cub tix, 10 shards, 16k voucher vs 2.5k char tix, 10 shards, 15k voucher?
And free selectors, or shards pull (very little) from banner gacha
no, you can pull for her too 
I should have specified as in for free ways to raise her
bc I have seen many players have her at sss
i have a qte management issue, good lord i dont know when to use it
š
U realize she been out for over a year now?
I mean most of those players are veterans who have been playing since before Kaleido patch and have enough vouchers to SSS her
Or roughly a year
For Wanshi, should I save the selector for his cub or get other character cubs?
(I have Qu, Watanabe, Ayla, Lamia, Liv)
Whereās that Cub damage list 
Other characters as in who else
I have enuff to sss her, but fudge cow, she gets no food from me 
I know that's why I asked
Starved cow smh
Whel handicapping himself
How do i do Bridget combo or just spam red ping hold
is selena still worth harmo or i should wait till lilith
pick your poison 
Characters listed ^
If you have enough, why not. We should be getting excess harmo mats soon
For guild battle or?
i guess, but im not too sure if its worth the "slight" damage increase
Any modes
that reminds me, I forgot to harmo my wulf gurl, not that it helps much at ppc 
I still havent understand Bridget's mechanics yet
I mean if you have Scire harmo then it lets her hold Eins + Cottie for Warzone
Decent score increase
I mean like, who's cub do u have in mind other than wanshi
Main Support Set
Main Support Sub-DPS
High Difficulty, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Recommended for all ranks
General Dark Support Set
4x Seraphine
2x Cottie
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Class Passive
Einsteina
oh 2eins 2cottie
Blue blue dodge blue blue red blue blue red ult, use yellow combo to covert reds to blue if need. She can parry blue shield with anything really

Idk I'm new
Make sure to time the dodge/red parries with the shieldās recall
Is this very brick or just brick
Brick - very brick
I mean just get your meta characters to SS and pull for new units, youāll be fine over time
U have all the important characters at base s
Main Tank/Sub-DPS Set
Main Tank/Sub-DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
General Tank/Sub-DPS set
For SS3 or higher
4x Boone
2x Condelina
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Core Passive
None
How
My skulls are not enough + i probably recently gotthem so im currently building the to ss
i feel like i shouldnt be using reso echo
You only use that for PPC you dirty R3 Scire whel
(Or im jst lazy to invest in their equipment)
this isnt gonna end well, i hope i get 3.3m
Ye
I mean resonant echo is fine too, since itāll run out by the time Capriccio ults
Itās still damage
Yea timing is pretty awkward

btw, fk this
How much u mald ppc tho now
I GOT IT AGAIN
Till 1.85m
Classic
Fk whel
Feral has the same problem too
No dlt?
Guys should i pull hanying when i have an SS3 + Sig (1 reso) Rosetta? Is she that much better even if i have this much invested in Rosetta?
Yes way better

Ss hanying shreds better and deals more dmg than Rosetta sss+
Hanying is also the main dps of physical
Pak
Should I use vouchers to SSS empyrea or garnet?
garnet is dead soon
Wtf sss garn
Empyrea
Rip garnet
Should I be worried for this babel
Probably QTE timing issues
@pine slate
What was your fire onslaught score

48s or smth 
Trash score fr
And Void?
What is a good DPS build for A Hanying (just to have fun)
1:04

Lee isn't Lee'ing so might do void instead if it's better
is it possible to get higher score
Idk which generic memories work the best for physical
Welp, I guess we're Lee'ing now
Guild battle? 4 Patton 2 Fred
Or Darwin
Actually was aiming at just idk soloing Hive or Gabriel with her sometimes, shes cool
But yeah that also works for guild
i dont remember how i got sub 40 void, i remember managing to swap to luna for 2 rots at the last second
Ah then Iām not sure about that sorry
Patton works best for Phys shred + EDB
You try swapping to Empyrea so that Luna CD wouldn't be delayed?
i was using ayla
Gonna stick with that
Same thing
š
i tried again, but luna's cd wouldnt come back up in time
unless my first swap luna was like really fast
so i got empy from the selector but which two piece do i go after 4 piece da vinci for general use? 2 piece einsteina or 2 piece guinivere?
where do you get 4th orb from on 2nd damage cycle after ult1?
Are you basic attacking at the begining?
Maybe you skipped the process in the sub 40 run
basic attack with the yellow orbs
like wz
didnt seem like it
How do i always run out of orbs with alisa after one rotation even i have her signature? Do i need dead line timing + ss or higher
Who is your fire team?
ah, now i see it; so you basically weaved it before ult1
No, but did you start with Alisa and swap off at the beginning?
Also when i swap back in she has like 2 orbs
Did you do her awakening with memory resonance lmao
uh for now don't have a fire dps, but i just got empy, willl get epitaph tmrw from blue banner with springsong boons reward tickets, will also get his weapon if needed.
yeah before ult 1 in the second rotation
thank you
ba yellow dodge ba yellow dodge hold attack ult
Then you go Alisa > stigmata > rigor > Alisa, you should have enough orbs
For the first few swaps at least
gotta copy the successful
good luck malding 
is that how it works
Do i still swap to roestta even if shes only like level 34 š
4 DV 2 Guin or Eins works for Empy then, depending on who your 3rd member is they can carry Shakespeare, Eins, Guin and so on
This team aināt functional without swapping, either that or stigmata solo
the only real team they work with rn for me, is with oblivion until pyroath comes out
What character rank S should I take in Bigginer Tutorial?
Im just waiting for hanying š
Gotta cope until then 
Can i use Karen instead
Epitaph can solo fire content too since you donāt have a swappable fire team
For Nihil then epitaph 4 Alphonse 2 Cottie (4 Shakespeare if harmo R1), Empy 4 DV 2 Eins
Who should I get?
Karen who? None of the karens are physical
Check pins, thereās beginner guides for that
blast is kinda physical 
For now š because my rosetta isnt functioning and i dont wanna waste mats would an off elem tank work in place?
when does tank Karenina gets better than S+ no.21? is it worth getting her in Free character?
Ty
immediately
You donāt have a choice lmao, you wanna cope for one more month without a functioning rigor?
base S and no signature?
imms take.your word for it
Either Empyrea or Scire I guess
5% more shred 
much longer duration as well
Wait we get Nanami and a selector??
Should I use all 60 limited serums for the event or idk what else can serums be used for
Ah okay thanks!
in a pyramids gacha yes
15k BC selector up till Nanaknight
Im coping with a level 21 vera š i think i can wait, just need to get max rewards and im happy! š
You donāt get Nanaknight and a selector lmao
how does res shred work in this game? the more you have the better or diminishing returns?
Max rewards⦠yea thatās not possible but I guess if you donāt like the idea of spending materials on units to at least cope until you have better teams then sure
Either farming stage or story mode
Bambinata enjoyers, who do you run her with? And why'd you play her
there's no downside to more res shred except for overkiling waves in warzone 
Is any of that more worth it than just using it all on event for the currency
I just dont have enough mats rn
Not really, story for BC and event farming stage currency for buying materials
You should literally be able to have a half decent rigor QTE bot by the next few days
But you can save if you want
Does she need her leap
If you donāt swap then no
there's no diminishing
More buffs/debuffs is always almost better
nothing different
current cap for res shred should be about
74% or so?
but that's more "you can't cram any more"
fake 3.5 yay 


Dalao, teach me how to fire
you already dalao tho 
No you
h[ow the hec

Any guide to get the Ultralimit key for The ending 2 of Jetavie Beta?
The choices to get the necessary items one by one is confusing
ss0 lee 4 turing 2 cottie 2 darwin s punchy
ss3 wata 4 alphonse 4 shakes ss bat
sss empy 4 dv 2 guin 2 eins lingya

your lee is ss3 so you can use 2 darwin 2 fred on him too 
skip 3p dmg for another 15% edb on ults 

Ss3 whels
Thats with or without sig? I dont think ill be able to afford it after pulling luna
What is lee ss3
more energy on hypermatrix 3ps

no need for cottie anymore

something is telling me to do it
Shakes Wata saved our fire

nah buy more of these
will never need to buy another one again fr
OH OK LMAO
actually if i do the zaza cottieless ss0 lee i could also go 2dar 2fred 
but prob won't, i don't feel like HT-ing another 2pc set
I can buy 8.5k 
not to mention i don't wanna deal with both cottieless wata and lee at once lmao

absolute goat, thanks a lot
Hi, I'm kinda lost what event shop item should I buy, and also should I SS shukra or bianca
okay, ima attempt to 590 ballard, wish me luck š«”
?
Masochist
Do it


I grinded coop, and can buy a 5* weapon from shop. Do I get weapon for XXI, entropy lee, noctis, or bambinata?
Lifetime supply davincis
I'd rather buy shards than dv
How many can you buy
like 16k

107 resonances
Tch
I'm one to talk
I've bought like 28k's worth this patch
this is nothing with my luck
I spent 50 memories to get perfect 2 piece for uncle 
I lost 5k to Empyrea core reso on shakes
Almost kiwi'd on the spot

Skill issue

..nah bro theres no way im gonna 59w ballard at this rate
27 seconds on knight seems diabolical
I guess I will have enough mats for 4 characters and 4 leaps then the rest will go to shards
Have you tried Criting?
alisa gameplay? š

YK WHAT WHY NOT
orr stop being lazy and build my A ranks
leaps are expensive tho 
gonna have to drop glorius spear
Harmo teddy 3r sig supertune SSS+ perfect reso or brick
half way there
its worse š
harmo and resos you said?
No sound gaming
Song: World's End, Girl's Rondo - Asterisk DnB Remix
0:04 - Ballard
2:47 - Madorea
4:17 - Hamlet
5:44 - Builds
T4W
#punishinggrayravenglobal #ęååøå¼„ä» #ććć°ć¬ #pgr #phantompaincage #exppc #ppc #f2p #watanabeepitaph #watanabe #wata #qu #qupgr #qushukra #lamia #lamiapgr #luna #lunaoblivion #ballard #madorea #madore...

I can do everything but ht 
oh yeah no I only got 600 on madorea and 610 on hamlet
cant make up for that :/

does his hypermatrix even proc it
4 sig 4 shakes lee
oh well no 1.8m today

im running shaketanabe though

What rank hyper tho
ss3
Just run shake hyper then?
but i have no ht mats
If u have R2 wata, u can do 3 rot with cottie
š§±
Time to uninstall
3s team with hyper shake feels so nice 
What does this do and where can I find this in my inventory?
Collection item, you can find it in event boss fight for selene
nah that ballard runs are diabolical
Tf whel

wish i could do the same but sigless epitaph can't solo like that
once you get a taste you can't go back
Rip
Rn my fire team already has Bridget as a decent tank ig should I go for shukra and try to get watanabe on the 70%?
it all started with sss hyperreal by accident and here we are
Next patch gonna be far away b4 shukra pull again so idkk
No
get wata, forget about 70%, you can get shukra on pianissimo patch if you really want her
Taste of whel?
Thatās like 6 months away I doubt Iāll be that invested into the game anymore

Nuh uh

so why do you care about the best choice then? just get what you want mate

Cus I play for the best choice currently
just dodge cancel your 3ps
you need 3x3p, dodge cancel all 3
and done, 15%edb for u
enjoy your shake uncle and never ending hyperreal ping simulator 
What are these funny words whel man
SS0 dodge cancel orbs=brick
then the best choice is getting watanabe as he is the best tank for 2 teams, and risking 70% is not worth it, even more when we are getting the synchro patches with a lot of back to back S ranks
but like i said, if you like shukra, go ahead
Hm alr but what other ice duelists can I use currently

are those orbs dmg worth more than another 15% edb on ults? 
Shake Empy means no eins tho
Wadafuk
So whel
So Nuh uh
4dv 2 Eins Lee
At SS0 the orbs determine whether Lee kills the bloody wave or not
Otherwise Lee cannot damage, but at SS3 the Edb would def be better
well i'd just forget about ice until wanshi drops, he can kinda solo with sig so it's a good choice until you eventually get qu
The Empyrea zaza is bricked af, 280w rn because bad wave progression
Smh
what is the memory for her as qte bot?
Not using Turing makes his no timestop ult1 even more pointless
4dv 2 eins

That's the point
He's a qte bot
4 bathlon and 2 Einsteina is better now since rework
K thanks
oh alright
my selena on dv
then what the guy said, 4 bath 2 eins
why ss3 better tho? late dodge?
okay
but honestly like i said, if you don't see yourself playing a long time, just get what you want mate, shukra is not a bad choice anyway
Which one is better for Liv Empyrea?
I do have her 6 stars weapon
Energy
Unless you're using 2 cot 2 Fredrick than that's not a problem
Kk
oh i was talking abt 2 darwin 2 fred
@dapper skiff daren ht
Don't follow ingame recommendations
4 dv 2 Einsteina (2 Guin Harmo)
If you have both Wata and Lee
Otherwise 4 Elizabeth 2 Cottie (can be 2 Eins if you have her leap)
Then energy brick 
Upgrade to SS or nahhh?
Alright thankyou
on a sigless epitaph fire team with pyroath, pyroath runs 4 shakes right?
Isn't this score a bit too low?
ill never be on the same level 
it is yes 
K whel
technically there's also a zaza rot for ss0 cottieless and you'd have to dodge cancel anyway
but for ss3 since cottie were never needed i wonder if 2 darwin 2 fred would also be better vs 4 shakes or 2 darwin 2 w/e
Don't swapš
wdym
Only one way to find out
i should've pick ss3 balter


175 pain cage skulls who should I get SS first Luna or cw
Luna
don't bother with raising CW at all
SS3 Balter won't make a diff
SS3 Balter saved my life wdym 
there's a free copy + sig + CUB coming later
hmmmmm
i thought about doing it for my ss0 lee but nah, don't want to ht another 2pc fred anymore
also dealing with both shakes wata and cottieless lee = š
No.
should I go for SSS so I can play swap when nanaknight comes
why
any invest you put into CW now will be wasted in the long run
prob won't bother trying
U just bad at finding good bracket to need ss3 Balt to survive 
because of the freebies later
congrats for 90/80
Or just because you're eu
seriously? I thought SSS was good for swap
my condolences
no just voucher
again why spend BC for ANY voucher unit
I suppose that also counts.
I have quite the stock of vouchers
that's why she's really not worth getting from this selector rn
not to mention Emp's DPS contribution isn't negligible
I only hit wave 18 with a full second rot rotation because Emp lowered wave 17 with her Ult enough for Wata to kill with first rot so staying on hyperbrick too long=brick anyway 
logical move for any future voucher unit is to not spend BC on copies
too late :/
SSS Wanshi
you know i- hmm wait no let me think for abit
š§±š
sure yeah SSS wanshi
You only need 14k vouchers to SSS him
Do it, he's like the best free SSS
I might still have enough for SSS cw when it rolls around but I might ss3 feral first
for shakes wata i can't do full rot with empy 
it had to be core for 1st swap then ult for 2nd swap and so on
because i needed lee to get another full rot at the end
and SSS Lilith
so time is important
nevermind no SSS cw, solo nanaknight it is.
uhghughheugehgauhdg
who's higher prio between SSS lillith and SSS wanshi? i have f2p voucher income so i will have to decide for one of them lol
This is what I do, they do enough damage to not be negligible
Especially Ult
ok only one or the other
If Lee crits and kills a wave you can use full stack ult on a new waves and take it down enough for Wata to kill
SSS wanshi or SSS alisa
what setup?
can probably only do one
i can actually do full core>ult for empy every time if i use cottie wata tho
but shakes is just no go 
wanshi first ofc
Cottie Wata in big 2025šš

2.1 real 4turd 2dar 2drick
2.1 wabe 4shae 4alpho
3 flashbang 4dav 2guin 2eins
Omg come do my DFM so I don't have to
Pay up or no help
Hmm, maybe go for 3.4 with this invest
oh lol you actually tried it
does it feel better to dodge cancel vs letting orbs played out?
500k cogs or no deal
If you're dodge cancelling at the cost of Emp qte then it's probably not gonna feel better imo
Lee does barely any damage
since it's really about picking your orb dmg vs more ult dmg
dodge can
And holding qte on Wata second rot is a brick
3.4...
im gonna try cottie or smthin idk
huh..
Cer has 3.47 Legend with 2.02.13 023 011 so you can def do it
I kinda wanna pull for it now.
my wata swap cd keeps lacking behind
but wanshi's cub is also super important
cottie wata right? since ss3 lee wouldn't need cottie
but then it'd be better if you use shakes for lee in that case
š§±
no more guild or dorm currency to exchange?
is liv ult worth though
pull a cub worth nothing for 5 months of usage? sure
Imo I feel like Shakes Wata would still be more consistent since you have to hit waves with Lee qte to apply shakes
Smh
yeah for sure lol
one of these days im gonna commit a brick that kills my account entirely
this is all because how bricked lee is 
wow this cub is actually so bad
smh kuro nerfing males
like nanaknight skip or something
Hyperbrick gaming
Nanamech skip?
Might as well uninstall the game and flush your PC down a toilet
is there any tutorial video on how to optimally play qu with sig?
i would watch empress but she's SSS+ whel
In the chess minigame, is Lucia assist the thing when you get hit or when you summon her on the board?
You are
After ult, he does sniper support on every ult
That also apply shake
Consistent with mob waves?
Realm Walk
Triggering Hypermatrix and casting Signature - End of Time will activate all available QTEs.
Lee: Hyperreal gains a 25% Extra DMG Bonus in Hypermatrix. Every time he enters Hypermatrix for the first time after being switched in, his alternative self from another worldline will perform a Red or Yellow 3-Ping and return a set of recorded 3-Ping Orbs. Performing Signature - Collapsing Realm, restores 10 Signature Energy (20 instead if 4 Sight Points were consumed). If he is switched out after performing Signature - End of Time, Covering Fire will be triggered (up to 4 times) with 3 sniping shots when other team members performs their Signature Moves, each shot dealing 400% Fire DMG.
Maybe give her Attack Resos on top
@zenith kernel read the ss bit
You'd be using his qte majority on thick wave, so he apply shake already
not class?
Wata ult1 should counts towards hyper sniper assist
he means top row not the top 3 there
So that's another free shake proc

If u managed to kill the elite mobs first with proper qte and wata red instead of the small mobs, that's your gather issues


Small mobs will always dies first before you kill a wave no matter what you're doing with wata or hyper
This chat right now 

So like 70% of mob warzones

When is the next free character selector after this patch? The ticket, not the 100% banner
Oh, lmao
Then just route better
For example if a wave is tankey I tend to let Wata hi it with the X on second rot which usually helps Alot and then the last 2 blaze orbs get and ult get Dv 2s buff
Though if you don't have speed you won't hit the last 2 Ults at the end 
Whenās the next time we get wata pull
Are there any memories I should grab for Wanshi from the current event?
Wanna watch me streaming legend wz with shake wata after this?

He uses 2 Chen Jizuan with harmo
Not sure without harmo yet
Sure
1h after this good?
I'm still doing some stuff rn
Almost done
Yeah, ping me when you're up
Sick
Next patch wishing banner 100% up, or free selector in Selena pianissimo patch
id ont get i t
Probably like Eins or something
How much months is next patch if u know
do i have to let wata finish his blaze or what
So February 20?
How tfš
Yep
Ok so rn I have the choice of picking shukra or him from the base selector
A lot of ppl were telling me watanabe but shukra herself comes in like may right for next pull?
Is pulling him worth it?
Free selector up to shukra in June/july, and they are right for recommending to get epitaph from blue banner selector
Should I be pulling one Wanshi for SSS or is he good enough with vouchers and ppc shards?
Yes but in June of July that free selector also applies to watanabe right?
F2p donāt pull for free character
Correct
Monthly pass?
Idkk itās just I feel like I can pick shukra and wait 20 days to pull for watanabe
Umm guys? Genuine question here
Wouldnāt that be more efficient?
Is he worth it
why are you pulling arrival
Then yea you can go for it if youāre willing to sacrifice maybe 1-2 sig weapons
What do u think abt this? Cus honestly idk
Is it a big enough upgrade is the question?
I really like Wanshi but maybe I should just get his weapon instead
yes he is one of the best characters in the game but never in your life pull arrival again please
I mean are you f2p?
Yeah
SSS is a big upgrade for him and the teams heās meta in, but sig weapon takes priority
Maybe SS3 for now?
So fate arrival is best?
wanshi weapon is a big upgrade, is just damage but yeah is a biiiig dmg upgrade
That's bad? If so, im dumb for not realizing
NONONONO don't pull on anything that isn't themed event construct if youre f2p
Also gives me access to 8 memories which is pretty big too
I am probably gonna skip out on SSS for now
So rn Iām deciding between jsut going for watanabe and saving for another S Teir
Or
Going for shukra on base and then going for watanabe on feb 20 th?
Then you shouldnāt be pulling for older characters. New characters and their sig weapons take priority and youāre screwing over your pull currency by backpulling older characters. Plus shukra is not as important for team rotation in her meta teams as epitaph is
you can get SSS soon enough don't worry, just go SS3 + wep
ive only played na hero
idk if I'll have time
So what should i do???
Kk got it
sigh trslao already being lazy with wz
i mean you already built the 40 pity, just get the character but never pull on that again
@shadow holly did u hit Drill X yet
what will happen to the pgr scene
Where can i pull my characters then? Im confused
gfl taking too much time
ok feet enjoyer

@tacit sentinel are you talking about this section?
Okay
Wao themed luna still up
She's up entire patch iirc
20 more days till next patch, save us
š¤ isnt the yellow background banner better?
2m hero fire wz with ss0 r1 wata + empy duo dps and mech qte bot

I should probably try alisa in mech's place since she wasn't getting to do anything really
Wdym double s rank hype 3 s rank avoided which mean eos avoided
But she's the only way to allow empy to carry shakes idk š
you and fel should make drill X tutorials!!!
does pulse hold dv or shake
so I have a ton of cub tickets and ores saved up from norman plan, out of hanying, wanshi, pyroath, nanaknight, lilith, ishmael, and selena, which of their cubs are most important to SS?
Dalao tutoring 
what tutorial just autoclear 
me when v6 wawa
Please pull on arrival you will always win š¤ š„

whoops
bruh
Ahahahah good to see
wait i could just-
Tf? Did you roll 3 copies before just to ss3 him?
Bro wtf
i got lucky
Bruh just use the blue tix to sss him now

Yes he stole all your luck, get him
Paking lucksacker
K whel
If kuro had given me early pity for wata i would've sss him too
i still need to get 3.4m fire wz im getting so bad
what Qu ss3 does
But you took all my luck
25% extra damage bonus or something, nothing crazy
ok thx
Idk SS3 should be not crazy
I am sick and tired of SS3 being somewhat required on some newer units
Some SS3s are outright crazy yea
F2p friendly game tho 
i mean they need to make money i guess
i lost all my 50/50s in genshin though, so that evens it out
Game is free 
Bait players with free units and put game changing upgrades on SS3 + sig + CUB = profit
If they wanna make money make the SSS absolutely wild
But just finish the kits at SS
Rotational I mean
that's what they did with SSS3-SSS+ after Scire
now SSS3-SSS+ is just numbers
yea honestly before you could get away with SS + 5 star, now SS+sig is mandatory for playable
Some of the old ones like CA or veritas could even be used at base S lol
K whel
Holy
Epitaph equipment is 4 Alphonse and 2 Einstein right? And what resonance should I get on those
Saw a dude with everyone at SSS + R2 ~ R3 but Epitaph at SS0 + R1
No
For now itās 2pc Cottie, any +15 attack and ult reso
i mean up to Bianca i think you could play anything and get away with 5 stars, they introduced core mechanics on sigs on gen 2 iirc
oh nvm liv exists
Its fine guys
So 4 Alphonse and 2 pc cottie?
Yep
/sss+ capriccio
Kk
No one gonna do trueslash in global anyway
wait 
Just s+
ah yes
I mean
They'll be like "nah, Pyroath exists"
Crapi cw daren for zaza hell doodoo
CW*
Rosetta was the first one to have important ss rank and sig
Then laurel was kinda ok without them
And then glory sig happened
the craze for Pyroath is reaching near same level as CW now
im having an absolute maldfest
But yea
I should really SSS+ my Capriccio 
CW
No comment about ion/glacio tho 
Yes
And then not use Lilith
both of those examples are just shred and stuff locked behind sigs, i am talking about actual core mechanics locked behind the signatures, like Qu being absolutely unplayable without sig
Too late
Cant I use Lilith to buff Capriccio?
no
capri is dead weight
2 amp 
Capriccio is dead weight
lilith overrides all of capri buffs
and then lilith just outright does 20x more dmg
Itās Selena simp
stop slandering
Yeah she overrides
But arent her buffs better?
hey chat, i am wondering if theres text-based guide for chess wonderland

only by +20% dark dmg bonus
its not much of a difference frankly
See I can use Lilith to buff Capriccio
capri's sh*t dmg base is not getting buffed
No you can't
Not when crapi does 0 dmg 
Pak my mobile debuff
Not that we know of sorry
And even if you could it should be cappricio buffing lilith
ey its fine ill just brute force it with my peanut brain

Ur bottlenecking the buff value cus capri dmg is just no there shes the weakest in a team of full 3s/s+ dark even now
Hey, whatever works man
i like that they used luna's boss theme for the hard section of the event
really set up the mood, really enjoyable
Then it started with garnet if you go with that definition
Since she gets a stack from ult and does core when you swap in only with sig
Imagine someone asking if capri does more damage than Lilith or not
wait what
chat is that real
Dawg that mentally unstable woman deals more damage than even Lamia sometimes
wait lemme scroll up
oh true i forgot about vera lol
Sounds like someone has a bricked lamia
No one thinks that lol
Won't stop me from forcing Capriccio to continue her work
Hi whel
oh i seen the chat

Nah
It is the case rn
thats funneh
šŖ
ye why not, capri must work even after her death
Let Cappricio rest
Goodluck 
šŖ
Can amplifier buffs even stack?
Let that trash rest
I'll need it
No
Hi

Then why is he still trying
Hi
SSS+ Teddy better with a dps build or support?
this man bout to slave selena
If you have lamia then support
Dang
I missed the conversation
I never tried to stack em
Liliths buffs are just 20% dark damage better than Selenas so she can buff Selena 
if u don't have a better support for lamia then yeah support
*at SSS Lilith
is it better if i just get memory from phantom moon event or from resources ?
My vouchers can't take that, not so soon after Wanshi
Nooooooooo
Lilith's QTE will probably do more damage than Selena's entire rot idk why you're trying to make it work
phantom moon
Well at least new Selena is after Lilith, possibly same patch
How to do boss fight 6
Wat 6
Anyone got the latest harmo chart of CN?
whats the difference of the 2 banner? like the ones shining gold and other isnt
I just like everything about Capriccio more than Pianissimo sadly
But I am still gonna get her cause I doubt they will do another Selena anytime soon
Fate is a scam
the harmo chart is harmo everyone
does pulse hold dv or shake
I mean who gets what harmo
Shake assuming epitaph holds Cottie
someone answer please

me who got my daren ss3 on fate arrival 
Fate is a scam pull on themed
the gold one has better rates but higher pity
fate is dumb,only people who roll on it is the one who cope
that's why people say it's a scam
now i get someone replyiing to me saying
well actualy i got it in 20
but i did roll on itā¦
Fate will average out better if you do a lot of pulls
But its a gamble that ftp and low spenders just should not gamble
unlucky
i got 2 S weave crimson
i hate when people say this
so the gold gives 2 characters?

pulling fate is not good,stop saying this
that's luck
ur just baiting people for no reason
Just this or the truth in general?
So any +15 atk and sig move for resonance on epitaph?
me? im literally newā¦š
I still dont know how banner works
When i started actually getting into the game in garnet patch i pulled fate banner for her
Learned my lesson lmao, got her on 81 
This pak
like ive seen demon s+ a char in fate in like no pulls at all and ive seen people get s ofucked by fate

nah not u,just dont roll fate
Level up
nope it's red on top sig move on bottom (cottie) class skill if shake
yeah i wont again
Iām level 53 

banner in pgr is literaly,play enough and u trade ur currency for a char
What no
its not a gacha rly
Thats why I add that ftp or low spenders should not gamble on it
They will never financially recover from one bad banner
Its still averages out higher with enough investment so if you whel you should pull on it
I missed that epitaph 
Should be on lvl 7 then
I did lvl8 on 57 iirc, lvl 7 on 50
Weapon banner 
globlul reading moment
but its worthit if i just keep getting the same character to get it to sss right?
Gfl play help again 
Bro im at lvl 6
Uh Iām confused like the red move on top and sig move on bottom for all memorie cards?
What characters u got
generally you dont want to pull on fate banner
Too
fate?
unless you have extreme gambling then sure lmao
nope
themed banner allows you get 60 pity guaranteed on 100% rate up; fate banner allows you get 80-100 pity guaranteed on 100 % rate up with 1% chance more to off rate compared to themed banner; conclusion - don't pull on fate unless you want to go S+ deep, since the less you pull, the less chances you have to off rate and it's basically the main lure of fate banner
i will never tell anyone to roll fate,idc how big of a whale u are
giving up zzz
red orb on top yeah on all of them
What's ur build though?
And then itās Alphonse x4 and cottie x2
getting sss from normal ye
Where's your sss wata 
yeah go for sig move on bottom
Everyone except fat cow tololo ullrid daiyan
Yes, signature for main dps and class skill for sub dps
im not gonna 3s blud
Why not
Its just math that it will work out better in the long term
Its just that with the free currency you get getting screwed over short term is to big a risk so you should chose safety over efficiency
Should be ez if u got qj, I did it with maki and tolo
Dalao pls carry me im at boss 6, lvl 48
I only have teddy and weave crimson and luna oblivion, someone told me to main luna oblivion but my weave crimson somehow does better
diff elements,diff uses
id rather master the rotations than use a crutch to get more score
U got ur units invested?
This is false
Well then just save those skulls for something else
COUGHSS3COUGh
Ur account no Suomi right?
math works better in long term only with super high invest; if you pull sss you'll be better off on themed
Have you done the math?
No
On average yes it's better but that's on average
Not worth ss6 him for literally a few points of atk
Cannot pilot then 
Im bewvie
I use qj maki sharkry suomi and the stupid mission is heal dinergate to 100%
the higher pity yield more bc tbf, sure you may get lucky but thats still luck, not a manipulation of sort
š§±
No Suomi, idk how to play 
There will be extreme lows and extreme highs
its funny this whole argument even exists,when most whales pull normal
i just cant understand what am i missing for the waves
60 is low enough instead with the one up to 100 pity
Use qj maki Ksenia Suomi then
So im bricked?
Bro how u look for ew name

jsut type eww
Wait is lvl 6 the one with 2 bosses?
search gingerbread
Can I use cellphone
Yes

Ah
Its not even an argument
One is statistically better the other one is safer and predictable
dont die, dont use ult
Did you make sure there's time for lee to do both ults at the end? Cause that's important
what memo resonance?
ez af just kill the king
sure,give me the stats
im pretty sure yea
Aight thanks
Means donāt let Luna get hit by enemy when ending her turn
Class
so what they mean is not using the ult?
if u have resonable data i will believe u
No no, you can ult
Yeah there will be times where it's better but there will be times where it's worse
fr?
just reset if you got that pattern
Fate is only better if you have unlimited time on banners which you don't
i c
Ye lmao, I did ult
fate is dumb and no one should be pulling on it
okay ill try cooking this level
what the frcik
Thats 1 year data
Paking rng game
Ult? There's one? 
U can do it daklao
i didnt ult or died in that entire thing, hit like r30+
I think that depends on the units u have?
I switched units and it changed
Summoning CW on field basically
no, the minigame is rng
O wat
i legit dont even know anyone that pulls fate to give that much data
what are the chances
there are 3 minigames in tier 7 8
@visual topaz
I kept getting the same minigames using the same characters, then I switched and got another one
ik demon used to
Oh that one, to me they're all just skills 
i could stream my rotations on vc, but idk if its gonna end well lmao

ideally you want to get the spider or the melee minigames
i dont think shuen pulled fate
not the healing dog one
Thatās ew 
he plays shuen acc
if im so cooked on hyperreal im done for during lucia
What recommended lvl to tackle boss fight 6
He had sheet before
40
is that his eu acc
Probably
Damn i got no hands
Whel acc 
Dalao gof
So let me like check this over again b4 I use my 6 star resonance thingy, 4x Alphonse 2x cottie, red orb on top or left and sig move bottom or right for epitaph watanabe
U use suomi?
Whadapak is this dalao energy pilot me 
what happend that he pulled normal in the end 
Message grew to long so here is reddit link
https://www.reddit.com/r/PunishingGrayRaven/comments/oru0e3/ć¾Ļ_guaranteed_vs_floating_banners_math_Ļć/
fate was s obad that he resorted to normal
Correct
I used tolo Sabrina lotta Ksenia for the minigame boss, maki Suomi sharkry groza for the other one
Kk
I can maybe record a run and put it on yt in case you want to see
bro its 4years
What did they change about it?
This is scuffed anyways because kuro doesnāt give enough decimals
Anything I am not aware of they changed about the rates?
boss 1 is doable without suomi
Need to mald again tho 
Normal banner not really matching with math to begin with
ehh forget it, i wont be able to replicate it anyways
I love dalao hour
but yes you have to raise colph for that
Just blue ice bro 

otherwise it might oneshot you
Colph and who else
ksenia
ksenia on 2nd team, just enough for survive
I used Ksenia and Suomi, idk how u can do the 2nd boss on stage 8 without Suomi
dont need to be like heavy invest on them
Looks impossible
Smh wanshi got powercreeped by alisa already
Stupid kuro balancing







Revelation
tier 7 8 i passed at 45