📨・meta-help

[distant wren]

You're a masochist
like me

[mighty tusk]

Just sss bro

[carmine reef]

but i haven't really put a lot of testing into it

[turbid bridge]

For sure, but I’m also worried about his HT stock

[woven haven]

what the hell do you mean Empy has 33% buff at S
50% at SS
100% at SSS

[carmine reef]

i dont think the ht matters much here

[woven haven]

[turbid bridge]

Though I guess he can just do HT bottom row first

[carmine reef]

like let's be real

[mighty tusk]

Top row if sequence pact included

[carmine reef]

he won't be competing in hero with solo wata anyway

and at lower leagues the ht diff won't be relevant because you can just skill gap them

[ebon adder]

dawg i just got promoted to legend due to physical and void being the best teams i got im getting demoted next round

[turbid bridge]

What

[carmine reef]

yeah and not because of your fire

[ebon adder]

exactly

[woven haven]

so how's cradle IB in difficulty so far

[turbid bridge]

What kind of dead bracket did you get

[woven haven]

anyone struggling like really badly compared to tb and lamia

[opaque ridge]

@lusty tendon come back to legend wz

[zenith thorn]

bad
why is she tanky

[woven haven]

33 mil HP
lamia had 55 mil but -100% EDR

[turbid bridge]

I’m screwed with SS lightning and no Hyperreal

[carmine reef]

i haven't done it yet but my void team is with wata and feral
and the lineup for intensive battle is fire void light
so uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[turbid bridge]

I guess you can choose whether you wanna go Cottie or Shakespeare on epitaph, Cottie gives him smoother rotation especially at base S, Shakespeare for futureproof

[ebon adder]

okie then thanks again gph

[mild egret]

Stuck cant clean rot luna cause of that small purple

[carmine reef]

are you doing light for your second

🧱

[woven haven]

wait is the shield still absorbing overflow dmg

it should be patched by now

[turbid bridge]

Wtf is overflow damage

[carmine reef]

like if you overkill the shield

it doesn't damage into the actual hp

[turbid bridge]

Ohhh

[woven haven]

in luna patch the dmg that breaks shield will absolutely null out

[carmine reef]

the overkill damage goes into the void

never to return

[woven haven]

in bridget patch they changed it so the overkill dmg flows into actual HP

[turbid bridge]

Damn it Kuro

[turbid bridge]

Bruhhh

[woven haven]

but if glb still has anti-shield overflow

that is fk ed actually

[carmine reef]

well it was working fine in wz

idk about ppc

[mild egret]

Yeah bricked, void 16s light 40s
Void can still do 15s, just need to know what is the black magic is lol

[carmine reef]

what in the whel

nvm i gotta leave this conversation asap

i cant be seen talking with someone doing onslaught in 15s

[paper bone]

I think I'll stick to playing onslaught like wz

gud enuf

[mild egret]

Idk what u mean since i already quit cn, but this is my run if u want to check is it fixed or not :/

https://youtu.be/4Bnv4oP_oWk?si=XFF_4S11I1vWrxXA

[woven haven]

nah seems to work ig
but core dmg is too low to break shield asap ig

and you only get dmg bonus when shield is broken

so some ult dmg was lost into that

if it was a clean break you'd definitely have dealt more dmg

[mild egret]

Yeah can do 15s if clean break, i want to try either swapping some upper reso to red orb later

Since its just that really tiny leftover

Idk might be works,im bath at meth

[ionic sapphire]

Can Luna solo like with CW, Lamia, and Qu? At SS with sig or?..

[sage forge]

nah need orbs

[ionic sapphire]

Pain

I accidentally pulled her pet for the funny

[woven haven]

solo isn't possible for any future attackers

and besides cw/lamia/qu solo is still suboptimal

[ionic sapphire]

Been using those 3 to solo for a bit now

[woven haven]

you only solo because you're missing swap capable teammates you shouldn't be solo'ing permanently

[normal quarry]

is it worth getting capriccio if i dont intend to sss her or i can just use teddy as supp

[woven haven]

stick with teddy
Capri is getting powercrept

[normal quarry]

wait by who

[woven haven]

Lilith

[stuck sphinx]

Lillith

[normal quarry]

ah

[woven haven]

the new dark amp main dps in CN

[normal quarry]

i thought lilith is a uniframe

[stuck sphinx]

mechty

[ionic sapphire]

I guess when Wanshi's new frame drops I can swap around now with Ice, I do only have the sig for Qu, lightning.. Not sure..

[normal quarry]

alright thanks

[ionic sapphire]

And my dark team is an absolute mess

[woven haven]

lightning doesn't matter

[stuck sphinx]

[woven haven]

nanami is main dps after she drops

[ionic sapphire]

;-; My CW....

[woven haven]

CW is basically either subdps or benched depending on the investment gap

[ionic sapphire]

Well pain guess I bought thy skin for nothin ;-;

[livid lark]

qte bot cw

[stuck sphinx]

You can blame speedup for that

[livid lark]

if your cw isnt sss rotating with cw is dps loss

[stuck sphinx]

Misspell daren

[livid lark]

fr tho daren can go into the bin

[ionic sapphire]

I would love to get her to SSS since I invested a bit on her

[stuck sphinx]

Sss daren > ss cw

[livid lark]

not really worth since you could be using the BC on better units

[ionic sapphire]

Does Wanshi's new frame be a qte for Qu or to help solidify rotation?

[livid lark]

if you want cw at sss you get vouchers

[sleek basin]

Nah

[livid lark]

or wait for the free copies

[paper bone]

kale cant use 4guin on a single qte right

[ionic sapphire]

She's gonna be on voucher? I planned on doing that for Capri but hmm..

[livid lark]

cw is going to get a leap

[paper bone]

sss capri is pretty pointless

[livid lark]

that wont make her a lot better for lightning but she will still have a use as umbra dps

[sleek basin]

Rather sss wanshi

[woven haven]

pointless to do that for capri

only worth vouchers rn are wanshi lilith and echo

[sleek basin]

Tbh

[ionic sapphire]

They get fcin ouchers on their drop? Christ

[livid lark]

[ionic sapphire]

Wait Echo?

[livid lark]

make your choice

[ionic sapphire]

Ohh Alisa

[livid lark]

i'll only get my cw up to ss3 with the free copy

[ionic sapphire]

Might use em on Wanshi, how good is the boi for Ice?

[livid lark]

very

[ionic sapphire]

And that's when even...?

[livid lark]

much better than glory

[paper bone]

honestly

[livid lark]

in like... 3 weeks maybe?

yea 3
20th Feb

[paper bone]

wait so my kale is eins guin

[ionic sapphire]

A FREE CW COPY?

[paper bone]

what the fck does my glory hold

[opaque ridge]

Who?

[stuck sphinx]

222

[livid lark]

free cw + sig + cub (i think) and free feral

[paper bone]

222 what tho

[stuck sphinx]

Disgrace

[livid lark]

ishmael patch

[paper bone]

whas the last 2

[opaque ridge]

Bro doesnt even 222

He dumpster

[stuck sphinx]

Gloria ein lantern

[paper bone]

kale is guin eins dvc

[stuck sphinx]

Use sam

[ionic sapphire]

AHHHHHH BUT I HAVE HER SIG AND CUB!!! AND FERAL! FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU

[paper bone]

gg I need sam

[opaque ridge]

Dont bother, wanshi coming

[livid lark]

just use the spare cw sig for reso

idk what the issue is

[stuck sphinx]

[paper bone]

yknow what

[livid lark]

feral can go to ss3

[ionic sapphire]

Is it a direct copy or a weapon select?

[paper bone]

I'll just give her 4guin 4 dvc

[livid lark]

direct
you dont get to choose

[paper bone]

this rot is gonna take more than 1 ult anyways

[stuck sphinx]

[opaque ridge]

Like with synchro patch, u just aim for the final build

[ionic sapphire]

WHY NOW!!! CHRIST UGHHH MY GIRL....

[opaque ridge]

No point minmaxing old units now

[ionic sapphire]

Does StarNanami solo or rotate around?

[opaque ridge]

Yes

[ionic sapphire]

WHICH?

[livid lark]

um, would you be shocked if i said she solos?

cw who?

[nova forum]

Devs listened

[normal quarry]

as expected of nanami

[paper bone]

11/15/15 mado

[opaque ridge]

Ur not telling us what invest, how are we supposed to answer

[ionic sapphire]

AHHHHHHHHHH KILL ME

[paper bone]

interesitng

[opaque ridge]

Do i say solo and u end up going base S and 5 star weapon

Then its misinfo

[paper bone]

is hanying cub important

how much more dmg is it

[ionic sapphire]

My dear CW.... ;-; I'm gonna cry the moment they release a new lightning attacker and it's not Alpha(again)

[opaque ridge]

Yes get it

[ionic sapphire]

What's the new Selena element?..

[paper bone]

doesnt evry new unit need cub

[paper bone]

physical/glaciation

[woven haven]

good for both ice and glaciation teams

[opaque ridge]

Selena is depression and schizophrenia

[woven haven]

use this as reference for all current meta CN teams

[ionic sapphire]

I got Luna's cub for the funny but fc maybe I shouldn't and saved for Lucia

[livid lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAKYE4w8XvI&t=1s

[ionic sapphire]

I WILL BURN THIS WORLD TO THE GROUND BUT I LOVE NANAMI TOO ;-;

[woven haven]

you need hanying too

[ionic sapphire]

AHHHHHHHHH WHY MUST YOU DO THIS?

Anyone else? Wanshi?

[livid lark]

just assume that all future s ranks that need to be gacha'd are necessary

[ionic sapphire]

What about Sigs?

[livid lark]

even if their gameplay is scuffed af

[vale raft]

Current Roadmap (as of Jan 30th 2025)

[livid lark]

sigs can come later if absolutely necessary

[shadow holly]

ur always pulling for half a char without sig

[ionic sapphire]

Nvm don't answer that....

[livid lark]

but characters are no exception

[shadow holly]

up to you whether you can afford the other half

[ionic sapphire]

HANYING AND WANSHI ARE 7 FCIN DAYS APART THE.....FFFF

[livid lark]

wanshi is free tho

so you have some breathing space

[ionic sapphire]

My lord this group patch are a blessing and a curse

[mighty tusk]

Uhmm....
Who's gonna tell him?

[livid lark]

what you should actually be worried about is nanami and ishmael at the same time

[ionic sapphire]

STOOOOOOOOP

[livid lark]

nah not yet
a new lightning attacker will drop but it wont be right away

[ionic sapphire]

I SWEAR IF THEY RELEASE A NEW LIGHTNING AFTER SELENA......

[livid lark]

maybe later this year

[viscid cave]

i told y before, got BC problem XD

[livid lark]

if i say when i think the new lightning attacker will drop i might be breaking some rules in this discord

[viscid cave]

skip Hanying or Ismael for BC save

[stuck sphinx]

1 wave

[woven haven]

that's just a bad idea

[dapper skiff]

Necessary

If you're a ppc nerd

[shadow holly]

around 32% more damage on her core iirc

[livid lark]

damn

[shadow holly]

which is equivalent to wata reds in damage weighting

[opaque ridge]

Nah i’d ult

[livid lark]

aww hell naw

[woven haven]

approximately 35%~ dmg increase on her largest sources of dmg

in both phys and trueslash

[livid lark]

um if you had to pick between ss3 hanying and ss3 lucia which you choose

[dapper skiff]

Neither

I'm getting ss3 ish for that carpal tunnel destroyer

[ivory owl]

whats best to get in standard banner with s rank choice

[livid lark]

epitaph

[dapper skiff]

Check pin
Faq and guides

[turbid bridge]

Standard banner selector?

[livid lark]

in general

like i just want to know the opportunity cost

[rain anchor]

honestly both are too good to miss but i would take lucia cuz shes main dps

[turbid bridge]

Well trueslash is skippable for now, Lucia busted attacker in fire and ion

[livid lark]

ion team does better than ts?

[dapper skiff]

Lmao

[turbid bridge]

[livid lark]

like if i had to choose where to dump 15k bc

[turbid bridge]

Ion scores more than twice of trueslash

[livid lark]

out of those 2

[dapper skiff]

Trueslash is skipable is a sentence I'd never expect to hear this soon

omegalul

At the end of the day

Phys is bricked to the sky no matter what

[livid lark]

is ion playable at ss0 tho?

not counting scire leap

[dapper skiff]

You use Lilith for ion

Ofc it's playable on ss0

[shadow holly]

you're saying as if hanying isnt main dps
well until selena ig

[livid lark]

before that it's feral tho right?

[dapper skiff]

[livid lark]

or does ion not arrive until lilith patch

[turbid bridge]

Yes but CN players said you can only do 5 ult ion at SS3

[dapper skiff]

only do 5 ult

[livid lark]

oh
oh...

[dapper skiff]

These CN players

[livid lark]

lmao

[dapper skiff]

[turbid bridge]

As in normal rot is 2 ult I guess, 5 ult is only doable at SS3

[livid lark]

kurai have you played ion yet

[dapper skiff]

Good enough

Enough to retain hero already

[raw swift]

What patch will first affix release and who are the units in it

[dapper skiff]

My ss0 ass ain't getting legend retain ever

[dapper skiff]

Today

[woven haven]

both are good

[livid lark]

if you were forced to decide between the 2 tho

[stuck sphinx]

new roadmap

[jolly swift]

Should use ticket to get hyperreal?

[livid lark]

no

[dapper skiff]

Swipe
-aetherlao

[woven haven]

i'd take lucia just because i find her more enjoyable

[jolly swift]

I have the fire buffer team for watanabe

[fluid crow]

Is Luna's cub worth pulling or even makes a difference?

[livid lark]

oh alright thanks

[dapper skiff]

Lmao

[woven haven]

not worth

[jolly swift]

Use it for?

[woven haven]

scire or empyrea whichever one you are missing

[livid lark]

stigmata, scire or empyrea

especially scire or empyrea

[dapper skiff]

The difference is noticeable in ppc for several bosses kill

But for the rest it's whatever, just a better overall dmg in general without game changer or anything

Competitive level of needs

[turbid bridge]

Ion and trueslash content drops in Pyroath patch
Ion: Pyroath, leaped Scire, feral
Trueslash: stigmata, Solacetune, echo

[woven haven]

trueslash onslaught is in hanying patch

[turbid bridge]

Arghhhh

[dapper skiff]

I mean nihil wz is technically affix already with Luna only one with capable shield breaker

[raw swift]

I'm not in onslaught

[turbid bridge]

Screw that crap, trueslash without leaped stigmata smh

[raw swift]

Could have done it if ballard wasn't so morbidly obese

[jolly swift]

Empryea already have, so it would be scire but i don't have dark dps yet

[woven haven]

hanying does decent dmg on her own

[livid lark]

yes scire is a good pick
even if you can't get ss3 she can be a decent qte bot

and also you need her for ion later

[dapper skiff]

Just have an obese wata

So you're on match with it

[turbid bridge]

I see, so it’s worth trying then

[livid lark]

just get sss wata

[jolly swift]

Pl

[raw swift]

I'm not a morbidly obese whale

[jolly swift]

Ok

[livid lark]

smh
no rights for you

[arctic imp]

I need suggestions on who to use my S rank selector on (The one in spring bonus)

[dapper skiff]

Check pin

Scroll down

[woven haven]

did u know
SSS gives hanying +100% EDB on her trueslash dmg affix procs
the 400% base ones that consume charges

[arctic imp]

I have all the units that are listed there

[turbid bridge]

That I did not know

[arctic imp]

I was thinking maybe Vera since my lightning team is coping rn

[vale raft]

Hanying: Solacetune

Skill - SSS

A Magpie, Perched on the Branch

Level 1 - Unlocked at SS3

Gains 3 Signal Orbs every time Hanying: Solacetune enters the battlefield. While in Way of Strife, Extra DMG Bonus increases by 15%. Mingling Moon and Lantern effect applied by Hanying: Solacetune increases by 50%; Penetrating Pivot effect increases by 5%.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SSS

Base DMG amplifying effect from each consecutive cast of Azure Allure increases to 100%. While in Way of Strife, triggers a single cast of Phoenix Down upon completely filling Complex Time points inside Moonsong Realm. Extra DMG of Trueslash performed by Hanying: Solacetune increases by 100%. Penetrating Pivot effect applied by Hanying: Solacetune increases by 10%. Reduces swap cooldown of all party members by 3s; this cannot be stacked with other swap cooldown-reducing effects.

[arctic imp]

But then again Nanami will be getting that new unit soon I think

[woven haven]

Extra DMG of Trueslash performed by Hanying: Solacetune increases by 100%.

[eager venture]

wait a few months for nanaknight trust

[paper bone]

what other future cubs are like that

all of them?

[woven haven]

hang on lemme help u do the math a sec

[paper bone]

[livid lark]

just wait for nanaknight and cope for a bit
you wont have to worry about lightning once you pull her since she can solo

[arctic imp]

Thats what I was thinking

[turbid bridge]

SSS it is

[arctic imp]

Should I get Selena then

[livid lark]

no
empyrea or scire

[dapper skiff]

SS balter > SS empy > empy dupe for faster sss > balter dupe for faster sss > kale dupe for faster sss

You only get scire dupe if u have her signature weapon for ss3 rank

[zenith kernel]

[brazen tangle]

Will the stage achievement thingy be permanent

[paper bone]

why are cubs broken :(

[livid lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1257364642133446798/1281522287845314641/NANAMI.gif

[livid lark]

$$

[paper bone]

shibal

[arctic imp]

So do I ss3 my Balter?

[dapper skiff]

The more u care about number, the more broken it gets

[paper bone]

I mean i've been trying to be competitive for so long

its kind of a waste to just settle for ss0 r1 invests

[woven haven]

Lamia CUB is a 40% Ult dmg increase
Wata CUB is a 37.5% Blaze orb dmg increase
Luna CUB is a 12%-20% dmg increase to her core and ult both her biggest dmg sources
Hanying about 35% dmg increase for her cores which are her best dmg source that can ramp up dmg
Lucia CUB is about 15% more ult dmg
Ishmael CUB basically a permanent 40% ATK buff
Selena CUB basically 40% permanent ATK buff
Lilith CUB is free so its not a consideration fk u lilith
Wanshi CUB 1.5x ult2 + 2.5x ult1
Nanami CUB 30-40% DMG increase

[zenith kernel]

competitive

SS0

[woven haven]

that should be all?

[dapper skiff]

If u have plan to get sss balter with the free dupe balter in future u can get it.

Ss3 balter is general especially next patch barely does anything since solacetune is the main Dps for physical soon, so to make it worth you want to eventually aim sss stigmata when u get her ss3 so it's not just a waste

[stuck sphinx]

everyone bricked without cub

[arctic imp]

I dont plan to SSS any units

I have to be smart with cash now

[zenith kernel]

Wanshi cub💔

[paper bone]

looks like wanshi, nanami, ishmael, selena, and hanying are must

gg go next

pyroath too wait cuz she's perma ulting

thats everyone

[ashen edge]

[mild egret]

Hero is already good imo

[paper bone]

i just retyped the fckin list

[dapper skiff]

If u have ss and R1 cw, having and not having garnet wouldn't make much different by this point

[paper bone]

i barely trimmed it down

[ashen edge]

swipe more

[paper bone]

its okay im gonna kiwi

[turbid bridge]

K kiwi

[dapper skiff]

So whatever you're feeling ig

Anything is pretty much whatever at this case, just minor improvement over what you already own currently

[arctic imp]

I see

Time to collect all the Lucias I guess

[paper bone]

its okay im quitting to go play nikke and snowbreak

[zenith kernel]

Bricked A rank Guild
Somebody teach me how to Teddy

[glass bay]

its bridget thats difficult...

[carmine reef]

teddy is really easy

[paper bone]

3p 3p 3p special orb hold atack ult1 3p 3p 3p special orb hold attack ult2

[dapper skiff]

Real

[zenith kernel]

Eh, nah, just spam faster

[carmine reef]

3x3p core hold ba ult1
3x3p core hold ba ult2

[turbid bridge]

#📨・meta-help message

[dapper skiff]

Based

[arctic imp]

Actually I dont have Qu shukra so is Lucia ice a good choice

[dapper skiff]

Time to kiwi this p2w game

[paper bone]

new snowbreak patch is so peak

[zenith kernel]

I mean how to Teddy the good way
Not the spider2b way

[arctic imp]

[woven haven]

you can optimise it further by learning to parry the bear head for extra ult stacks

and energy

[paper bone]

I forgot how many ssr's I have in that game

[zenith kernel]

I have 850k but I'm basically bricked there

[zenith kernel]

And I'm pretty sure she can 900+

[woven haven]

istg if people ask what parry teddy has i'm going to be so sad no one noticed the detail they put into her kit

[paper bone]

how bad is 11/15/16 mado

[woven haven]

[dapper skiff]

Sss R3 cub or unplayable

[paper bone]

212 151 no qu cub double harmo

[ripe stag]

Idk
But I heard my 9 10 12 is bad

[stray siren]

[ripe stag]

[dapper skiff]

All the teddy mains already kiwi, no one knows anymore by this point

[ripe stag]

Get Cottie not Boonie

[zenith kernel]

Nobody noticed because Kuro decided throwing half of the dictionary at us was intuitive

[stray siren]

Ok ok

[stuck sphinx]

i just afk low viral anyways

[zenith kernel]

Whel

[woven haven]

teddy can't even 150 stack ult with 9p bear orb -> hold BA
you have to parry the 9p's bear head to get the last 15 stacks

but no one seems to have realised its a tech that exists

[mild egret]

Ngl im already tried buttt ://

[dapper skiff]

Because teddy is a rank

Wym

[stuck sphinx]

no empress teddy guide

[woven haven]

its literally one of the only parries in the game with a voiceline for itself LMAO

actually lots of detail put into the parry sh*t in teddy kit

[paper bone]

i'd rather learn how to koopa back dash wave slide hover walk moon land

[stuck sphinx]

go learn calculus smh

[paper bone]

first calc class tmrw

I got a 70 in calc 1

[zenith kernel]

The clean hit voiceline?

[stuck sphinx]

bruh

[woven haven]

yes

[paper bone]

its ok my comp sci mark was 95

[zenith kernel]

[woven haven]

that voiceline indicates if you did the parry correctly

if you do it earns you extra ult uptime and extra ult stacks for teddy

[zenith kernel]

So I've been failing 70% of the time kek

[paper bone]

oh btw how is hamlet this week

[woven haven]

which is arguably important

[zenith kernel]

How do you do it consistently

[paper bone]

are the stacks bugged

[mild egret]

I dont get when the bear icon appears tbh, i dont see it prolly cause my phone small

[turbid bridge]

Seems to be working well now

[paper bone]

took them a year ffs

[turbid bridge]

Bear head drops down from the top of your screen

[woven haven]

no its not the bear orb
its the bear head projectile that flies out when she uses the 3rd combo orb

[zenith kernel]

Cause when I do ×3 blue ->hold basic ->bear->×3blue->hold basic
I sometime get the voiceline and sometimes don't

[woven haven]

it will return to you and you have to tap ult to parry it (ult button will have 5 segments lit up)

[zenith kernel]

Oh

[mild egret]

3p 3x in ult then tap ult,is this right ? Hmm, skill issue fr then im

[woven haven]

3x 3p and then tap ult shortly after
its a fixed time window

tap ult can be done through any other animation lock

including the bear orb or hold basic

[stuck sphinx]

https://codeforces.com/contest/1925/problem/D

[woven haven]

as in the tap ult attack is independent

[paper bone]

fck code forces

[stuck sphinx]

smh

[stray siren]

I think I came at the right time to learn how to teddy

[paper bone]

I'd rather be a leetcode slave

[stray siren]

Lmao

[zenith kernel]

Makes sense, when I tap ult instead of hold it attacks even during her orb Animations

[zenith kernel]

me and you both

[woven haven]

see the purple segments
when all 5 light up tap ult to parry
you gain 60 energy if outside ult

and in ult mode it gives 15 ult stacks and +2s ult duration

the proper rot is
3x3p -> bear orb -> tap ult during bear orb anim to parry bear head -> Hold BA -> ult1/ult2 -> repeat ad infinitum

[turbid bridge]

If with Cottie? Just get into ult form asap?

[zenith kernel]

[gusty grove]

how many shards of s rank character do you get from the s rank selector?

[turbid bridge]

30 if you already have first copy

[woven haven]

honestly idk any cottie optimisations

cuz her kit without cottie is already self sufficient

[dapper skiff]

Just pull sig

Insta ult on swap

[turbid bridge]

I hit early sig for Teddy, that’s the issue

[woven haven]

and you want to clear her core stacks before ulting

[stuck sphinx]

https://leetcode.com/problems/ipo/description/

[zenith kernel]

I don't think Cottie is worth
Especially when no Eins holder

[dapper skiff]

:selenayes:

[stuck sphinx]

idk why this is a hard

[woven haven]

otherwise you don't get bear orb while in ult mode

[fluid crow]

Who should I harmony first, Qu, Watanabe or CW?

[stray siren]

Qu or Wata

[dapper skiff]

If you have weapon resonance for epitaph, get him first

Otherwise qu if wata is r0

[stray siren]

@ripe stag do u see this?, u misinformed me

[woven haven]

teddy has a very complicated but very fun kit so its kinda a shame to see that both kuro and players don't seem to put much effort into her

[mild egret]

I always wonder what does that bar stack mean until this sec ngl

[turbid bridge]

Real

[fluid crow]

No usb unfortunately

[mild egret]

Failed dev information i said

[carmine reef]

magma was malding gb earlier and said he actually had score improvement with cottie

by just spending more time in ult mode

[turbid bridge]

Ye I saw that too

[stark magnet]

Wait, you can parry the bear head??!?

[stray siren]

I think she and Yata are the characters I'm most looking forward to, so I will try to learn them

[stark magnet]

Oh sht i just know that

[woven haven]

i mean i'm not saying cottie is useless just that i dunno any optimisations

[carmine reef]

and he tried a lot of things

[woven haven]

because her rot is self sufficient

[carmine reef]

yeah

[woven haven]

not the bear orb that plops down when you ping it
its the bear head that comes out when you do a 3rd signal orb ping

[carmine reef]

if i had to guess, i would think he was just going into ult1 whenever up and then doing ult2 rotation same as normal

[woven haven]

try 3x3p and you'll see a bear head fly up and back to teddy

[stray siren]

For resonances, what is recommended bottom Attack or core?

[woven haven]

when it flies back tap ult to PARRY it

[stark magnet]

Uhhhh

Man i was throwing random bullsht the whole time

[woven haven]

ult reso afaik is the standard but for gb honestly idk
cuz gb sh*t gets very deep

Teddy -> top blue/atk , bot core 6ht
Bridget-> top blue , bot atk 6-12ht / top atk , bot class 0ht
Hanying -> top atkcrit , bot core 6-12ht
Palefire -> top atk , bot core 6ht
Bambi -> top atk/red orb* , bot atk/core 6ht
Noctis -> top atk , bot core/atk 6ht
Rozen -> top atk , bot atk/core 6ht
Astral -> top atk , bot ult 6ht
21 -> top atk , bot class
Dawn -> top atk , bot atk/core 6ht
Zero -> top atkcrit , bot ult 6-12ht

*different more specific rotation, skippable

Bridget set1 for solo dps carry(highest score), set2 for support if you want to rotate
Hts skippable but recommended on atleast the first 5

here from gb malder friend

[turbid bridge]

HT

[woven haven]

man harmo'd tempest

[turbid bridge]

Based

[woven haven]

for gb

[dapper skiff]

Sick

[stray siren]

Tbh I compared Ulti vs ATK in GB and I got better results with Atk (yes, I spent more than 100 memories)

[dapper skiff]

I actually need that

[woven haven]

he knows what he's talking about

[carmine reef]

i heard atk reso for teddy before

[woven haven]

so i trust him

[carmine reef]

as well

[dapper skiff]

It's been ages since I look for a gb malder

[dapper skiff]

CN?

Or does he have discord

[woven haven]

its crimson
in de lorean discord

[dapper skiff]

Oh crimson

[stray siren]

Crimson dalao GB

[dapper skiff]

Okay

[stray siren]

[iron quiver]

Which s selector should I go first? (Day 1)

[dapper skiff]

I don't know what u mean by go first, but S rank selector recommendations in pinned message

[dawn cloak]

Better post picture
Theres several S rank selector for newbie

[zenith thorn]

I mean jf it's day 1 then it's just the mail selector

[simple cloud]

is fake ht recommended for dps?

[stray siren]

This is my teddy rn, I hope to get extra resonances soon

[carmine reef]

fake ht is a waste if you're going to real ht them eventually, which you should

[zenith kernel]

https://youtu.be/uQxNbpZpIac?si=iBuQlsiqaxFsRlTb

This one has ult

[simple cloud]

so real ht if doable i see

[carmine reef]

you should only fake ht for units that you don't actually want to optimize

[stray siren]

If you don't have HT material, maybe yes

[carmine reef]

that you only want the infinitas orbs for

[zenith thorn]

i mean why fake ht

[simple cloud]

i see

[zenith thorn]

i find fake ht to be too niche to be used nowadays

[iron quiver]

The beginner guide that I read don't have any suggestion. The one in pin comment

[stray siren]

I'm going to save this

[carmine reef]

nah fake ht is still plenty viable

just a waste on an actual dps

[zenith kernel]

https://youtu.be/DRji3Wm5eN8?si=6hQ4-RmDHIdkXGgc

Idk the builds for this one

[zenith thorn]

for what character

[livid lark]

😭 teddy

[woven haven]

almost nearly everyone new either wants the dmg bonus anyway so real ht
or they don’t need the orb pick cuz they auto convert

[simple cloud]

just wanna get the bonus dmg in sequence pact

[stray siren]

He is Crimson

[carmine reef]

alisa and garnet are the last ones i did

[simple cloud]

so im concerned with fake or real ht for dps

[iron quiver]

Thx in adv

[stray siren]

So maybe Core

[zenith thorn]

oh fair alisa and garnet

[livid lark]

entropy i guess
otherwise choose who you want since it wont really matter

[zenith thorn]

i did fake ht on garnet too

1 year ago

[livid lark]

i felt cringe just recommending entropy 😭

[carmine reef]

i wasn't even playing a year ago so

[zenith thorn]

should've fake ht mech too but i didn't :lmaocry:

[carmine reef]

i did fake ht mech and i do actually still use it

[zenith thorn]

dude i kept forgetting you actually started playing on cw patch

[zenith kernel]

[carmine reef]

i'm baby

[zenith thorn]

and not before it

[stray siren]

[simple cloud]

do yall place 6 dps for the sequence pact?

[carmine reef]

it doesn't matter who you place

place anyone you want

realistically you'll be placing whoever you can

[simple cloud]

ight

[carmine reef]

ideally you should full ht your dps units first

[quartz dove]

[carmine reef]

but if you happen to have a full ht unit that isn't a dps

well, it might have been a waste of ht mats, but if you already have it

no reason not to use it

[simple cloud]

ye lookin to fully ht lamia and shukra

[carmine reef]

yeah that's fine

[simple cloud]

ty

[carmine reef]

i actually did do some fake ht to fill out my sequence pact personally

but i only did that for units that would actually benefit from the fake ht

[simple cloud]

who those units

[carmine reef]

nanamech (irrelevant now)
garnet
alisa

[dapper skiff]

Is that everything he posted for gb set?
Does he have more to this?

[paper bone]

How long does it take to rank8 affinity from 0 with just dorn dailies

[carmine reef]

a unit that benefits from fake ht is one that you don't care about the damage for, but that would really benefit from having a specific orb, usually for ppc starts

so mech blue, garnet blue, alisa yellow, are what i wanted

[simple cloud]

i see

[severe cargo]

GUYS DUMB QUESTION

I can sss my alya

BUT I have to buy out the battle pass which cost me 5400 Bc

Should I do et?

[carmine reef]

it's beneficial except for the fact that there are more important units coming up
so depends on your voucher income

if you're worried about affording things then probably don't

[dapper skiff]

With sync patch rn, it feels really fast ngl

I started gifting Luna like what

2nd week of this patch?

Idk

Now she's already affection 7

[silver shard]

What choice do I have to make and where to get the sacred sword?

[rose yew]

you can buy battle pass with bc?

[simple cloud]

gotta wait to get enough bc for daren sig after solace

[woven haven]

that’s for the good A ranks
Uniframes and S ranks just stick to usual dps sets

[turbid bridge]

He meant buy out the levels for the voucher rewards, because he may not finish on time I guess

[severe cargo]

Yes to rush the bp u can spend Bc

[turbid bridge]

If I remember correctly the choices don’t matter much in the end

[dapper skiff]

Is the mem set basically ones in Celica bot rn?

[rose yew]

I suggest just buying another bp next patch

[woven haven]

i think so

[severe cargo]

My ayla ss7 and I only need 19 shards to 3s her

[dapper skiff]

4 Patton, 4 bath
Etc

[woven haven]

at least their dps sets

[silver shard]

It doesnt Ive just never gone with that choice so I wanna do it at least once is all

[woven haven]

the usual 4pc shred + 2pc dmg bonus

[rose yew]

there's still like another 17 days to bp end

[turbid bridge]

Ah then sorry don’t think we have a guide for that

[woven haven]

or 4cottie if harmo

or 2pc 2pc

[dapper skiff]

Harmo

[woven haven]

i mean its variable cuz of eins needs anyways

[dapper skiff]

Madman

[woven haven]

if no same element A rank

[dapper skiff]

So you're basically saying if you don't have 3 same element a rank in 1 week gb, all 3 would use eins?

[woven haven]

well depends on which one you’d use as main dps

like bridget can solo for highest score alone

and so can teddy

[nova forum]

Cancer on phone tho?

I still dunno how to play Bridget on gb

[dapper skiff]

It just 2 blue red parry ult no?

Dunno if u use burn thing

[carmine reef]

the bridget rot is so fkd

[woven haven]

nah

blue blue parry qte repeat

and you do this for the entire gb

[dapper skiff]

Huh

Kay

[woven haven]

convert reds to blue when you run out

[dapper skiff]

Too long for ult ig

[woven haven]

does carpal tunnel feel good

[dapper skiff]

How do u do that again

[turbid bridge]

Yellow 3 combo

[carmine reef]

i don't mind the number or speed of inputs at all

[dapper skiff]

I did read somewhere convert convert

[carmine reef]

what annoys me is the timing of it

it feels so clunky

[woven haven]

yellow yellow yellow

it will convert them all to blue

[carmine reef]

and if you run out of reds you have to basic

[trail solstice]

Scire s0 is okay or not? For qte only, currently use teneb

[zenith thorn]

btw @woven haven is lilith completely disfunstional soloing

[carmine reef]

for qte bot ye

that's fine

[sly geyser]

use xxi instead

[zenith thorn]

lets say no lamia

[carmine reef]

[sly geyser]

save ur selector for someone else

[trail solstice]

Actually I not build 21 at all but have the sign 21

[carmine reef]

wut r u guys on

[sly geyser]

even better

[carmine reef]

missing scire > s scire is still a big upgrade

[sly geyser]

just build her already

[paper bone]

Zaza gray raven

[sly geyser]

she's getting replaced soon anyway

[trail solstice]

What I don't think base A will work with sign on S0 rank

[sly geyser]

dedge character

[carmine reef]

she literally hasn't been replaced yet

[zenith thorn]

everyone is getting replaced bro

even empy and Daren
it doesn't matter who they choices

[carmine reef]

you are giving some crazy ass misinfo bro

[sly geyser]

yeah but the timing

[carmine reef]

if you are missing scire, she is the best choice from the selector

[zenith thorn]

what timing

[sly geyser]

nah that's copium strat no misinfo

[paper bone]

wanshi and hanying is mid feb to prob end of march

[sly geyser]

wait she's base a ? ah damn go for scire then

[paper bone]

at that pace lillith will prob be april or may

[zenith thorn]

june

[vale raft]

Current Roadmap (as of Jan 30th 2025)

[carmine reef]

lilith doesn't make daren go away

[zenith thorn]

zazas

[paper bone]

Isnt she ion enabler

[carmine reef]

bro was recommending xxi

[paper bone]

Pyroath lillith + nanknight

[carmine reef]

dark is very obviously the context

[sly geyser]

come to think of it... tht selector is pretty ass too

[carmine reef]

daren is still in dark

[zenith thorn]

???
why talk about ion when the person can't even get to ion

[paper bone]

Oh

[zenith thorn]

wtf :lmaocry:

[paper bone]

i thought it wws just abt daren

[zenith thorn]

the context was purely dark tank

[paper bone]

:bambi:

[sly geyser]

alr replaced by lilith

[paper bone]

In half a year more or less

[zenith thorn]

absolute zazas

[sly geyser]

anyway

[trail solstice]

So should I got scire and buy PPC skull to SS without sign, or build 21 with sign (currently s0)

[cloud python]

Which passives should I max out for Luna: Oblivion's cub?

[carmine reef]

no just get scire and don't upgrade her

[paper bone]

you reso ult

[carmine reef]

leave her at s

[sly geyser]

nah go for scire

[zenith thorn]

just get scire
don't buy shards on her

[zenith thorn]

skill 5 and 4

[ripe stag]

They are planning to SS0 Scire

[trail solstice]

Why no shard

[ripe stag]

Shouldn't we just stop them

[sly geyser]

bad idea

[zenith thorn]

waste of skulls

[trail solstice]

Ss0 not work?

[carmine reef]

ss0 doesn't matter

she needs ss3+sig to be viable dps

[ripe stag]

Her S0 and SS0 has same purpose
Being a QTE bot

[carmine reef]

if you aren't willing to go all that way then leave at s

[sly geyser]

dps daren

[ripe stag]

SS3 makes her onfield worthy

[sly geyser]

[zenith thorn]

ss0 daren is useless + many more priority unit to ss

[cloud python]

Is it always passive 4 and 5 on DPS cubs? 'Cause I did the same on my Bianca cub. 😅

[sly geyser]

never thought that was still a thing

[vague nebula]

save your ppc scars for upcoming characters. theres 7 s ranks in the way.

[carmine reef]

always yeah, if it's signature cub

[zenith thorn]

everyone is just skill 5 and 4
3 if off element

[carmine reef]

only time you change is if you're borrowing another unit's cub

[zenith thorn]

skill 1 is bad

if i remember exactly what p 1 is lol

[cloud python]

Ah! Okay! Thanks! 😊

[ripe stag]

It's always

• Signature Skill which syncs with the S rank
• Elemental buff %
• Stackable Extra Damage Boost or ATK %

[trail solstice]

Okay what memory for s0 scire

[zenith thorn]

4bath2ein

[carmine reef]

bath eins or dv eins

[paper bone]

Dark no dvc crazy

crazy crazy crazy crazy

[trail solstice]

Currently my Selena has sign and she is sss

[ripe stag]

4 Bathlon 2 Eins if no harmony

[trail solstice]

Should I swap Selena to davinci?

[paper bone]

sera guin on capri lesgo

[ripe stag]

Same situation as me
She's useless unless it's PPC

[zenith thorn]

no

[paper bone]

she needs seraphine

[nova forum]

Bro I'm contemplating to top up on this game

[zenith thorn]

just do it

[paper bone]

Do it

[ebon adder]

do it

[ripe stag]

Do it

[nova forum]

Are y'all being ironic

[paper bone]

Act like an angel dress like crazy

[zenith thorn]

600rc

[nova forum]

[trail solstice]

Iam actually not doing competitive I want to beat that Norman fkin sht content

[paper bone]

da du da da du da da da du da

[zenith thorn]

600rc very cheap

[paper bone]

140 cad

crazy prices

[restive karma]

what if lamia has 4pc bathlon because harmony

[paper bone]

why would that happen

[dapper skiff]

Too bad, you either a whel or a sweat to clear norman

[trail solstice]

This is my Selena, should swap to guin? Then who bring davinci

[dapper skiff]

[carmine reef]

lowkey, if you have the invest to clear norman abyssal, then you already have the account to be doing competitive content too

[paper bone]

why would u ever run bathlon on lamia

[carmine reef]

bath lamia is a thing

[paper bone]

[carmine reef]

at ss3 or up

for ppc

[restive karma]

yup

[paper bone]

Idk ss3 invest

[dapper skiff]

Ppc doesn't count

[carmine reef]

[dapper skiff]

Irrelevant mode

[carmine reef]

helper madge

[paper bone]

I mean tbf dark is gonna be pretty useless in ppc

[carmine reef]

i sure wish it was dark instead of light rn

[turbid bridge]

K SSS lamia

[paper bone]

Who let me invest so much into my light

[restive karma]

so is 4 cottie better than 4 bathlon on lamia?

[paper bone]

who didnt tell me to stop

[trail solstice]

The problem is the current Norman is doing that thumb robot and Lilith at same time

[carmine reef]

usually 4cot is better

[trail solstice]

My dark team can doing 0 battery

[restive karma]

hmm i see

[carmine reef]

4bath is for a specific situation, and that specific situation is 1 rot kill

[restive karma]

ah ok

[deft geyser]

Who do i take?

[paper bone]

Is ss3 really lacking that much dmg where u need bath

[restive karma]

i got to switch mines then

[carmine reef]

and specifically a 1 rot kill where 4cot doesn't kill in 1 rot

[paper bone]

[turbid bridge]

You use it on SSS hell Lilith too for 11s kill

[trail solstice]

And idk where to spend battery bcz there are robot and Lilith here, lightning team are dead too

[restive karma]

good thing i asked before doing harmony

[paper bone]

For what boss

[carmine reef]

? it's not about lacking damage, it's about unlocking a new breakpoint

[paper bone]

olillith

[turbid bridge]

Lilith

[carmine reef]

surely you can comprehend this idea

[paper bone]

Whats daren holding then

[turbid bridge]

Pre rework stuff, 4 DV 2 Eins 2 Gloria

[carmine reef]

probably dv eins glo

[restive karma]

ye

[deft geyser]

.

[dapper skiff]

[turbid bridge]

Scire or Empyrea

[sly geyser]

pick plume

[paper bone]

Cant u just give capri eins and let daren take dvc and bath

[dapper skiff]

Cottie is more versatile

[carmine reef]

we're literally talking about bath lamia

why would daren need bath

[restive karma]

ye im switching it now

[turbid bridge]

You can’t do Lilith 11s hell without lamia Bathlon

[paper bone]

But like its one rot kill

[carmine reef]

yeah

[paper bone]

you jsut need one applicatoon

[carmine reef]

it's for the damage

[restive karma]

doesn’t she use 4 bathlon??

[turbid bridge]

You’re basically exchanging 15% EDB Cottie for 10% EDB from bathlon* plus Gloria shred and Samantha buff

[carmine reef]

we're talking about a specific situation where lamia is running bath

[turbid bridge]

Do the meth

[restive karma]

oh

i thought you meant in general there

[carmine reef]

no you're correct in general

this is just niche topic

[paper bone]

they gave every elem set 10 edb

oh wow

[turbid bridge]

Ye that’s why lmao

Oh but you won’t do it I guess, requires SP delay

[paper bone]

Gg

[carmine reef]

that's why it's ss3 and up

[paper bone]

I’ve got the sp delay run once

and I’m good

[turbid bridge]

[limber yoke]

Same

I did it once

[paper bone]

So I actusally need sam now

nvm I’m not gonna harmo capri

its okay I’m low invest player

[ashen edge]

[turbid bridge]

[paper bone]

Not like ex matters anymore

[glass bay]

More than 0 rc is whel

[shadow holly]

hi uwu my reaction to dush next

[ashen edge]

v1r0 frfr

[paper bone]

theyre speaking in moonrunes again

what the gyatt

[shadow holly]

yea considering expansion key I'll probably do that
otherwise would've been skip

[nova forum]

Which mpass should I buy

[deft geyser]

Whats more important to level up?

[limber yoke]

Dusha good

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/905006922116259900.png?quality=lossless&size=48

[ashen edge]

uhhh, every skill?

[nova forum]

1 normal and 1 pack?

[shadow holly]

everything

it anything prioritize class, core and ult I guess

but if you're anywhere outside of super early game you should just be maxing all skills on everyone you use

[deft geyser]

Ok but what's really important if i don't have enough

[ashen edge]

prioritize class, core, ult

[shadow holly]

wow ok fel copying me

[ashen edge]

rest will just slowly take time to level up

[shadow holly]

[ashen edge]

im slow typing okay, i have brain dmg

[deft geyser]

Tbh i don't know if im out off early game

[ashen edge]

[shadow holly]

wtf long lasting effects of ppc

PGR really crippling people

[ashen edge]

https://imgur.com/a/hNdUJho

[paper bone]

dont play gfl

snowbreak is the actual peak fps gacha

[shadow holly]

ig when you've gotten to lvl80 you're out of "brand new" status

[paper bone]

mid game

This is where the macro matters

[shadow holly]

at that point ppl are still barely completing one team or whatever
so I can't call it mid game

[ashen edge]

also assuming them push her mod key sooner too

[paper bone]

Completing teams is still ewrly game?

[shadow holly]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-anguish-despair-gif-13915908866750092639

[ashen edge]

imagine wawa and dush mod key in half anni

[paper bone]

smh gfl

[shadow holly]

wowie modkey dush and borrow cardio wawa on intense penetration gunsmoke
yummers

[ashen edge]

5k or kick

[shadow holly]

[ashen edge]

oh wait nvm they havent updated the new cap score for gb

[ashen edge]

nice goon game

[deft geyser]

Should i try to level empyrea leap?

[shadow holly]

if she's even gonna go on field in your case

also I mean

[trail solstice]

Is SSS her worth or not? My fkin standar banner always got her 2x why they not give me scire or something

[shadow holly]

if you say you're tight enough on resources that you have to budget which skills to level

leap is tens of times more expensive

[shadow holly]

yeah
good as any amp SSS goes
and she plays a role in basically three teams in the future

[dapper skiff]

Very

[deft geyser]

Im gonna use her with watanabe so i don't know

[shadow holly]

if she's not at least ss + sig then don't bother swapping

especially if you don't have hyperreal too

[sinful violet]

Where’s watanabe banner

[shadow holly]

so in that case you can ignore leap

[shadow holly]

what watanabe banner are you looking for

[sinful violet]

The new one

[deft geyser]

I literally just got her sooo

[sinful violet]

70%? Isn’t it today

[ashen edge]

that is not the banner you want to pull him

[sinful violet]

I DO

[deft geyser]

I'll use her with watanabe and bridget for fire team

[ashen edge]

back pulling isnt recommend

[sinful violet]

so where is he

[trail solstice]

Should I keep garnet and feral s0? Both are no signature

[shadow holly]

no one knows what -bullshit kuro can pull

just don't come crying if you lose 70/30

[sinful violet]

😭

BRO CHILL I WONT

[stuck sphinx]

Omg new content

https://youtu.be/Cyc54IciwL4?si=2rwWW4nRYyH0jLy5

[shadow holly]

[turbid bridge]

1 hour after reset

[proper field]

What character has the best leap upgrade (ot improves their base kit the most)

[woven haven]

that's what they all say

[ashen edge]

well then its up to you, just like i said

[turbid bridge]

All future characters want their leap

[woven haven]

all new leaps from garnet onwards are good but it doesn't save them from powercreep

[deft geyser]

And i have the new luna and i don't know what team do i use her with

[ashen edge]

back pulling isnt recommend, and if you want him just get in standard selector

[turbid bridge]

Check pins

[sinful violet]

Nah not me

[turbid bridge]

Wish you good luck then

[proper field]

If I use the character s to should I leap? I want to leap lee palefire even though I have watanabe

[shadow holly]

technically you could say luminance because her base kit is literally worthless
all of her support functionality comes from leap
but she's irrelevant now
Rosetta leap is fantastic but she's replaced next patch

Garnet leap is good right now if ur fielding her

Empy leap is amazing if you're fielding her

[sinful violet]

I lost a 80% A Teir so due to logical reasoning it’s literally almost impossible to lose this next 70%

[hasty badge]

wow when I just come back on hero bracket. its a fire wz fml

[sinful violet]

Tyy

[woven haven]

no point

[turbid bridge]

luminance might be needed after Selena patch

[stuck sphinx]

[proper field]

After getting the a ranks that work best for my teams, does it matter which a ranks I target on beginner banner?

[turbid bridge]

Tanks like XXI, and whatever elemental supports you’re missing

[shadow holly]

riiight surely phys onslaught score with Lumi would be in any way competitive with whatever the 3rd team is

[proper field]

For dark I'm running teddy and physical im running zitherwoe. I'll probably prioritize Ayla and XXI as tanks. TY

[turbid bridge]

Oh no I meant for EXPPC

[stuck sphinx]

?????

[shadow holly]

oh
right monzano

[nova forum]

[turbid bridge]

Ayla brilliance? Forget it. You’ll get Hanying Solacetune S rank physical tank next patch

[carmine reef]

why would she be needed for exppc
selena is glaciation and phys? alisa is also glaciation and phys?

[proper field]

What's a good bambinata team? I love her animations

[turbid bridge]

Yea lmao

[carmine reef]

in what situation would you have selena and not have alisa

[shadow holly]

but ig if she's in the same group as phys bosses then it's whatever

[proper field]

That's good then. I'll prioritize XXI.

[turbid bridge]

She isn’t, that’s the thing

[shadow holly]

briked

[turbid bridge]

You can literally have these bosses in the same week
Skych (physical)
Emperor (ice)
Monzano (glaciation)

[stuck sphinx]

Isn’t the other phys boss fushit

[turbid bridge]

Idk if they put any restrictions but doesn’t seem like it

[shadow holly]

[stuck sphinx]

How much hp is skych

[paper bone]

No you can have fire light and ion in the same week

[shadow holly]

18m

[ashen edge]

will need to see cuz the chance we getting this likely wont happen

[paper bone]

That was during pyroath patch too

[stuck sphinx]

Bricked

[turbid bridge]

Oh because of boss rotations?

[ashen edge]

once the group reach the end it will reset

[turbid bridge]

Oooh

[stuck sphinx]

Just share ap

[ashen edge]

ye thats why acaxi mark color on the sheet

its random 4 5 bosses then reset the rotation

[paper bone]

[turbid bridge]

I see, hopefully it doesn’t happen then

[shadow holly]

well
Kaleido and whatever ice tank you might have

can be Wanshi next patch

although uh
both of them would deal FAR more damage than Bambi themselves

[ashen edge]

but if the new patch happen the rotation will get reset immediately

start over random 4 5 bosses again

[proper field]

Should I build an ice team: Bambi, changyu, wanshi
(I will replace them later with the dorm commission units) or a lightning team (noctis, chrome arc light, liv lux)?

[turbid bridge]

Doesn’t matter really, both teams are unlikely to score high enough to matter in meta content

[ebon adder]

god save my lightning team in nanami x ishmael patch

[shadow holly]

you do you
it will score worse in ice WZ than an off element team even considering the near 90% damage reduction

[ashen edge]

except for this one cuz you dont have no more bosses to rotate between so its just random again

[woven haven]

the point is

[ashen edge]

oops not that

i meant this one

[woven haven]

monzano emperor and skych can all be in the same week

[ebon adder]

where did you get this

[zenith kernel]

@mighty tusk @pine slate @dapper skiff
One tap legend fire, I wonder how high it'll go with optimization, cause i didn't hit 2 ult at the end
239.5 fluct

[turbid bridge]

Ah okay okay

[carmine reef]

yeah but in what situation would you use lumi instead of a different team

[turbid bridge]

Now I understand the colours

[carmine reef]

surely you'd be using selena and alisa together no matter what

where does lumi come in

[woven haven]

selena is hard locked to monzano

[ashen edge]

for more details just ping acaxi cuz he mark the color

[woven haven]

so hanying either has to do skych herself critless or use lumi

[pine slate]

hyper or empy sub dps

[carmine reef]

surely there's an off ele solution

that isn't using lumi

[woven haven]

skych is 18 mil HP

[zenith kernel]

Hyper, empy sub dps will be after I get optimal run with the standard

[carmine reef]

by that point in time

[ashen edge]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P-yoXNQ7ALEvshhmdPdjBjhHqUFfWEMbUSDli_LL9JM

[woven haven]

36 mil HP off element is uh

a big ask for everyone

[carmine reef]

yeah but you waste so much time already by having to include lumi

[zenith kernel]

use Lumi
No pls, I don't wanna go back to suffering

[woven haven]

even on element's worst match lilith vs ishmael 27 mil is ass

[autumn belfry]

why arrival banners have to changed yet.... i need epitaph

[woven haven]

please don't roll arrival lmao

[ashen edge]

ye but like the chance cn get skych/monzano is very very small

even cn dont have ballard/emperor weeks

[autumn belfry]

yeah but im already 40 pity in.... i cant put down the bc....

[woven haven]

up to you to test

[carmine reef]