📨・meta-help

[brisk pelican]

I see, one is gratitude.

[meager iris]

dark sucks

[zenith kernel]

Damn, Lamia already behind

[mighty tusk]

Weren't dark modifiers for onslaught kinda bugged?

[dapper skiff]

The only reason a resistance reduction won't be stacked in each other for full efficiency when you have a exact same effect from 2 different unit that reduces resistance to one enemies

Not just because same exact type

[zenith kernel]

Kuro bugs everything atp, it's tiring
Why haven't they dropped a hotfix for the bloody targeting

[meager iris]

yea I'm not malding this week

[zenith kernel]

Top 5% is fine too
Trust me bro

[meager iris]

I got 40 on dark

lmao top 1 1-5%

[zenith kernel]

🤡 EU

[zenith kernel]

?????😭
EU has no human rights

[brisk pelican]

Interesting, is it worth it to upgrade *5 mems to max lvl?

[zenith kernel]

Top 1% no 0

[zenith kernel]

The +10 qte damage is pretty big

[dapper skiff]

Leveling won't do much cause if you're using 5* memories in a support, that means you are going with solo dps and no sub dps comp, which is likely ppc

[raw swift]

No

[dapper skiff]

Where you won't be swapping at all majority of cases

So upgrading the mems, has nearly 0 impact

[zenith kernel]

Yea but
Imagine the +10 qte damage

[brisk pelican]

You're right.

[brisk pelican]

Which mems is that?

[dapper skiff]

Memories effect doesn't affected by level, so level 1 memory is pretty much works already even at level 1

It just probably way less personal dmg

[raw swift]

you're forgetting the 0.001% boost in ppc times

[zenith kernel]

Eh I'm trolling
But upgrading mems helps min max Qte bots qte damage which can help if you're having 1 pixel HP boss left or somn
Not significant in the slightest
Pretty sure only super malders would care

[zenith thorn]

just hit attack stupid

these malders are so STUPID

[livid lark]

no u

[true pivot]

ikr, just kill wave

why mald void

[livid lark]

press button

kill enemy

close game

[lusty cradle]

any recommended UI layout / keybinds for PC? 😭

[true pivot]

mine kinda ass

[lusty cradle]

i'm struggling lol skill issue

[subtle zinc]

what counts as a malder

[rose yew]

do you have a spare steering wheel

[subtle zinc]

more than a few tries?

[lilac carbon]

now that there's like a 3 buy limit on most things, anyone got a spending guide on what to buy?

[zenith thorn]

packs?

the 3 buy limit are coming from the sync

the general consesus is still just bc/rc

[true pivot]

then its the monthly pass, followed by weapon bp

[mighty tusk]

@zenith thorn @deft apex you guys are gonna enjoy the new story most likely

[zenith thorn]

selena?

did u read on huaxu LMAO

[mighty tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/does-he-know-gif-17552966235424643644

[true pivot]

btw how's luna's story? i havent had the time to read it

[opal halo]

Helppppp I’m confused on which weapon to pull for

[mighty tusk]

I'm literally clueless having skipped

We're on ch 29

[zenith thorn]

what's the general gist

did we met selena

[rose yew]

I think she died again

[livid lark]

no spoilers tho

[mighty tusk]

[livid lark]

im pretty sure that's a rule here

[mighty tusk]

I'm not saying what happens

[zenith thorn]

f2p?
dont pull for weapon

dms

[nova robin]

What memory resonance does epitaph want

[livid lark]

use the bot

[zenith thorn]

signature

[rose yew]

core

[mighty tusk]

Im on my phone and am kinda speedrunning it

[ashen edge]

[livid lark]

+15 atk on both top and bottom

[nova robin]

What bot

[vale raft]

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- Added resonance command (21st Jan 2025)

[rose yew]

bottom

[livid lark]

use slash commands

[mighty tusk]

Just read on huaxu

[livid lark]

do people not see the channel that's called #📨・bot-info

[opal halo]

I just got back to the game so idk what to pull

[white oriole]

If I don't have any sig what is the best sig to grab? I currently have 20k BC should I spend for sig?

[livid lark]

uh are you prepared for hanying first

[rose yew]

pull to your heart desire it's gacha after all

[opal halo]

My last patch was the crimson weave

[still falcon]

Anyone want to rate and flame an account for me

[nova robin]

I see the channel called help so I asked for help!

[livid lark]

i'll give you a barbeque

[still falcon]

Bet lemme drop the link rq

[dapper skiff]

Do you want it to be well done or congratulation

[still falcon]

Do I have to do it in dms or is this channel fine

[livid lark]

here is fine

[white oriole]

15k for Hanying ig? And count her in the sigless list too

[still falcon]

https://huaxu.app/ap/players/14844369/characters

Aight have fun barbecuing the account

[opal halo]

Who is next patch?

[still falcon]

(It's mine btw XDD)

[livid lark]

no uncle = instant brick

[ebon adder]

feral scent?

[livid lark]

be glad that hanying is coming out next patch but like your phys is dedge for the next 5 weeks

no feral oof

besides that everything seems kinda ok?

[still falcon]

Yea idk if I draw for epipath or save for hanying cuz epipath is coming in a 70% banner in a few weeks

[livid lark]

not wise

what did you use your standard selector on

everyone is base s

[still falcon]

I dint remember that was around a year ago

[livid lark]

do you skip ppc or something

[still falcon]

I took a break for a while

[turbid bridge]

Hanying Solacetune and most likely Wanshi Lucid Dreamer, Phys tank and ice tank

[opal halo]

Both at the same time?!?? My bc’s 🥹

[turbid bridge]

Wanshi Lucid Dreamer is free from dorm shop, so you’re fine

[livid lark]

lamia came out less than 6 months ago and thats when the standard selector arrived

what did you do

[opal halo]

Oooo

[candid wharf]

This might have been asked already but does anyone know what happened to the 1st anni cake pfp, cant see it anywhere. Thanks in advance!

[opal halo]

Ooo who is good to get from the standard selector

[livid lark]

epitaph

[white oriole]

Oh yeah talking about that I think I wanna pull Qu sig, my Ice team is so deadge. Then Hanying stay sigless SS3. Lucia will be sigless SS ig My main goal is SS3 Nanaknight + sig + CUB
https://huaxu.app/ap/players/10903238/characters

[still falcon]

Ahhh

Capricco

I'm pretty sure

[zenith thorn]

sorry i ate it

[livid lark]

welp i can't help then

[opal halo]

Epitah or Qu

[livid lark]

you're going to have to struggle and save

[candid wharf]

:(

[zenith thorn]

i didnt share

[still falcon]

The f2p grind is real

Eh maybe I'll get lucky

[candid wharf]

Meanie

[turbid bridge]

If you don’t have both then just Epitaph first

[opal halo]

Okiii

[white oriole]

My turn pls?

[opal halo]

I’m missing so many characters 😮‍💨

[livid lark]

you're in no position to skip any upcoming s ranks now (actually no one is but in your position you're basically not going to be able to fully complete any current content)

[quiet lily]

hanying sigless ss3

[livid lark]

you may be able to like get the easy stuff done but all the hard stuff is out of reach for you right now

[turbid bridge]

Uhh what advice are you asking?

[inner crown]

Should I grind revistaviso for Selena capprico (who probably isn’t going to get anything above maybe SS rank any time soon) or can I just use my SSS+ Teddy as my dark support?

[turbid bridge]

No, just use Teddy as dark support

[shadow holly]

should just leave nanami at SS0 sig cub if so
units are pretty much unplayable without sig
that applies for everyone
you would be throwing insanely hard by skipping Hanying and Pyroath sigs

[livid lark]

you can but it's also a good idea to wait for a couple of months for lillith instead

teddy can be your substitute for now

capri is kinda bricked atp

[still falcon]

Yup sounds about right, I kinda already struggle with phantom cage (idk if 1.1m is good but prob not )

[subtle zinc]

you belong here https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/1302962241556975636 thank me later

[quiet lily]

nanami nation

[livid lark]

that's very low

[shadow holly]

if advanced it's... alright

if ultimate then uh

[dawn cloak]

What to buy here for fresh new player?
Or just keep saving it?

[still falcon]

Yea I figured

[inner crown]

[shadow holly]

[subtle zinc]

I do try to po st something Nanami everyday

its a wholesome healthy chat

[still falcon]

Saw the 1.8m requirement for that new phantom cage gamemode and knew I was cooked

[livid lark]

get all the shards

[surreal galleon]

On the Selector: who's best to pick among these QTE slaves?

Karen:Scire for Dark team
No. 21: Feral on Lightning
Or Lee: Hyporeal for the fire

[livid lark]

scire

[turbid bridge]

Feral isn’t even on the selector

[inner crown]

Depending on who you have the shards are priority. If you have good physical characters go for Echo and if you have good ice characters go for Kaleido. If neither I think kaleido is better but I’m unsure. Either way it’s completely free and it’s the best usage of commission currency

[sleek basin]

Sigless ss3?

[livid lark]

feral is free in a few sync patches

[inner crown]

Soon(tm)

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1139425181010509894/1282166616335061063/1724290472754450.gif

[inner crown]

[subtle zinc]

I find it offensive and inaccurate you called those characters QTE slaves

[dawn cloak]

Starting from Alya Kaleido?

[livid lark]

you dont even need feral from a selector

[livid lark]

yea

or just choose cos you'll need to get wanshi from there as well (next patch)

no reason not to clear out the shards in that shop for all characters

[surreal galleon]

Wait? Where else can I get her, without spending currency?

[sleek basin]

She's gonna be free

[livid lark]

you wait until ishmael drops

[surreal galleon]

Oh...

[dawn cloak]

Oooh I see
Does the shard in shop has time limit?
I think ice would be good.
Someone told me to pick A rank wanshi to prepare for free S rank Wanshi later patch

[livid lark]

no it's there forever

been there since dec 2023

[inner crown]

No it’s permanent. Literally 0 reason you can’t get both of the characters, it just takes a bit of time.

[tranquil flare]

Liv

[white oriole]

Oh Nanami get SS0 + sig + cub yeah but I will spend a selector for her so SS3 right?
Then I hope I get 1 more sig pull to spend on someone... and I also have 1 sig selector from spending bonus So I get to choose 2. I love Selena too, so she will get her sig, but that's way to far in the future.
Let's say I can choose 2 characters for sig, which should they be? Qu is really painful for me to play (I can cope but she feels much worse than every other sigless), and I'm not sure how SS3 Hanying (SS + selector) and SS Lucia feel with/without sig.

[inner crown]

Fr I can’t wait for Scire so I can have an actually good secondary damage dealer for when my Lamia is recharging orbs.

[tranquil flare]

Liv is eins or guin + dv

Empy

[vale raft]

Liv: Empyrea <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:amplifier:1290613387197415467><:fire_element:1290613867365273630>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

SSS or lower
General DPS/sub-DPS set

Memories

4x Elizabeth
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 3x Core Passive / 3x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

Darwin

[dawn cloak]

So next patch will be 3 unit shard including wanshi? And all will be permanent?

[livid lark]

it's just 1 extra unit on top of what you already see there

so 150 shards in total for the 3 s ranks in dorm

[quiet lily]

rip elizabeth cottie empy

[lusty cradle]

which member is recommended to use?

[maiden scarab]

Is any of these except the serums even useful

[subtle zinc]

yea she is strong as ss3

[livid lark]

lol i can change that

[dawn cloak]

Okay. Thankyou

[livid lark]

the unit selectors are ofc

the weapons not really

the cog packs are ofc

[turbid bridge]

Not me still using that set

[sleek basin]

There are better options for selector tbh
Also among upcoming units only wanshi doesn't need sig per say tbh

[livid lark]

epitaph

[inner crown]

Dude..literally anything is better than no21…

[quiet lily]

[livid lark]

define anyone

[subtle zinc]

thats also true lol ^_^

[maiden scarab]

I still use the starter character and havent summon even once since i started cuz idk what the good characters are

[gusty galleon]

wanatabe epitaph

[inner crown]

Any other dark tank is better than no21 lmao

[turbid bridge]

That’s just not true

[livid lark]

uh wut
feral is a lightning amplifier

[shadow holly]

Lucia will most definitely feel almost unplayable, if not completely like qu or void Luna
Hanying will probably be barely playable but you still lose way too much considering without sig you don't even have harmo access to 4 patton build

are you going f2p or smth? if you're a spender and get the monthly pass at least you should be fine regarding sigs

[subtle zinc]

where is LIV SKIN alrdy

[livid lark]

you're confusing xxi with feral

[turbid bridge]

He meant no.21 XXl

[livid lark]

yea but we were talking about feral above

[lusty cradle]

@livid lark @gusty galleon okay thanks

[inner crown]

Original no21. I forget the like model number

[inner crown]

I was talking about dark tanks specifically scire with someone

[quiet lily]

u drunk, go to sleep

[livid lark]

i think you've been in front of a screen too long lol

[inner crown]

Ok in my defense idk all the dark tanks I pretty much only know those 2

[quiet lily]

we all know whos the worst dark tanks and its a HE

[livid lark]

well there is a 3rd dark tank

no one speaks of him

ever

[sleek basin]

He's Voldemort

[quiet lily]

[livid lark]

except he's not bald and has been spotted being in kowloong with a dress

[gusty galleon]

can anyone kindly tell me what the tankers do in this game? because mostly we're using dps as the onfield character

[sleek basin]

Let him hit age of 50

[white oriole]

I was always a F2P with some spending here and there
Qu feels really annoying to play for me, and I actually find Luna way comfier with holding attack and auto dodge.
So from what you say Lucia is not that bad then? Since I'm totally fine with sigless Luna but playing Qu sigless makes me wanna kms

[quiet lily]

rumor has it he went to wuwa and become actual woman

[subtle zinc]

his char feels just as bad asa sokaku to play which is like 1/10

[livid lark]

tanks are debuffers essentially

also tanks can be dps as well in this game

[livid lark]

not tall anymore?

[shadow holly]

reduce enemy resistances
tanks are what makes you do good damage

[inner crown]

What I meant was I’d rather have even just base S rank scire over no21 xxi

[shadow holly]

and also tanks are usually your sub DPS

[livid lark]

unless you're wata

[zenith kernel]

Would

[shadow holly]

sometimes main dps

[inner crown]

For now

[quiet lily]

nerf by 1/4 probably kek

[gusty galleon]

ohh thanks guys

[shadow holly]

like Uncle

[turbid bridge]

Yea that’s a fair preference

[shadow holly]

or nanami later

or new Hanying

until new Selena at least

[subtle zinc]

we are in the era of new OP tanks

[zenith kernel]

Or Daren

[subtle zinc]

it is a foreign concept until wata

[shadow holly]

SO TRUE BESTIE

[livid lark]

nugget as new dark tank with like 50% shred at ss0

[inner crown]

I still can’t believe we are so far in the meta slop that tanks are power creeping DPS powerhouses

[livid lark]

[quiet lily]

bring back cw solo op meta

[subtle zinc]

its fun

[shadow holly]

they're not powerhouses if they're outdated

[zenith kernel]

[old dune]

got a question about current fire, do i stay on wata as long as possible or is there a ratio of ults used before i swap over to the others? Also if i just double passived with liv and wata is ready in 0.25s, do i ult or swap to wata?

[subtle zinc]

that never exited, thats like flat earthers of pgr

[inner crown]

I refuse to believe CW is already outdated. Hypereal sure, but like CW???

[shadow holly]

brody CW came out right after him

[woven haven]

she’s 2 years old let her rest

[shadow holly]

💀

[quiet lily]

Glad to see all new gen unit is op balter solo op, wata solo op, cw solo op, lamia solo op, qu solo op, luna solo op

[woven haven]

Its the cycle of powercreep

[turbid bridge]

Definitely existed before feral

[livid lark]

cw's time is over

nanaknight has arrived to save the day

[white oriole]

Nanami saikyou!

[subtle zinc]

okay but the people holding onto CW are just bad okay ❤️

[livid lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1257364642133446798/1281522287845314641/NANAMI.gif

[white oriole]

When will we have Church of Machina role?

[zenith kernel]

Loml

[quiet lily]

Yeah no
People litteraly tested multiple times and Crimson Weave is litteraly the most busted frame in the game that completely ignore gameplay rotation

Shes the only one who can solo Legend Warzone CONSISTENTLY HIGH SCORING

Not even Bianca and the supposedly "Worst" S Rank Hyperreal is as dumb as Crimsonweave

Why are people skipping Lee when No 21 is litteraly
useless with Alpha

[inner crown]

I will not just standby and watch CW be turned into a…stiffles a sob subdps…

[turbid bridge]

Fact

[woven haven]

ok but can we say that

its kinda scummy what they did with cw

gacha skin announced on Lucia patch + a promise that she will be leaped in future
2 patches later, Nanami absolutely destroys her and they release her leap which did basically not much for her

[livid lark]

in some sense she's not even a subdps already

nanaknight been spotted doing solo wz

[shadow holly]

usually double rot on Wata
with dlt can do up to 2-3 triple rots per WZ run
if balanced team invest then 2 is best
if your wata has higher rank than hyper, I've had better experience doing 3 triple rots on wata

[subtle zinc]

okay SORRY I offended your Waifu

[woven haven]

Like they just
milked cw simps and then tossed them aside

[subtle zinc]

Forgot PGR is just like Genshin Must be respectful to all characters

[livid lark]

alpha simps in shambles

[paper bone]

do I study for my exam in 6 hours or go mald emperor

[dawn cloak]

Ppl here told me yesterday to pick Wanshi and XXI for A selector, and Lee Entropy and Luna Laurel for S selector

For blue ticket banner pick S rank Watanabe Epitaph and A rank XXI (to get more dupes of XXI on top of the selector)
Maybe it helps

[zenith thorn]

oh shoot i need to reso cappy too

[livid lark]

lol hyperreal
hyper's about to be benched forever

[zenith thorn]

i just remembered :lmaocry:

[woven haven]

about that
she got it the worst
nanami is arguably the strongest solo dps in the game rn

[turbid bridge]

Was a copypasta, don’t take it seriously

[zenith thorn]

he meant entropy obv

[subtle zinc]

I will say this skin, the VFX feel pretty comfy to use, design is OK , mid, but I do like the VFX

[old dune]

currently i got SSS liv, SS3 lee and SSS wata with dlt, with wata i sometimes manage to push out 4 ults, should i cut it back to 3 then? Also regarding lee, do i dodge cancle all his orbs in hypermatrix?

[subtle zinc]

this one

[zenith thorn]

subdps?
brother she got turned into a qte slave

[inner crown]

I’m joking really. But I do enjoy playing her and tbh even if nanami is better I’ll probably still continue to play her as my main dps. Really sucks that they gave her a peak gacha skin and then powercrept her like barely a month later.

[livid lark]

alpha actually a victim of everyone

[novel sleet]

4 pc bathlon and what for dps teddy?

[zenith kernel]

Is this a copy pasta?
If not, The people you're talking about are here and they called her crimson brick

[zenith thorn]

without sss sig and leap

[livid lark]

no wonder she gave up on humanity in search of her sister

[livid lark]

the classic pgro copypasta

[subtle zinc]

I really want Luna to just one day rip alphas head off

[zenith kernel]

Ah yes
Thought as much

[woven haven]

most effective is doing
43 433 43 433 for wata iirc (the number is the number of blaze orbs per ult and the space is swap off)
and yes sss wata should definitely be skipping hyper orbs you want to swap back to wata asap

[dawn cloak]

Woops sorry
Corrected
Too many same name this game confusing

[turbid bridge]

2 Darwin

[inner crown]

Also hot take I just don’t like nanami starfarers design. Tbh I wish she still had a mech because that was peak nanami.

[livid lark]

this was before CW dropped

i think 1 year before that patch iirc

[zenith thorn]

wtf my pasta :caught:

[gusty galleon]

is there anywhere or anything that could help me with lvling up my profile?

[subtle zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/nanami-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-nanami-pgr-nanami-punishing-gray-raven-gif-11269232440809061481

[zenith thorn]

ehy this sh*t still live after a whole year

[subtle zinc]

are you high shes literally a mech

[livid lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1240599200618512426.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=selenayes

[quiet lily]

it depends on how you read it

[zenith kernel]

Was it a crimson Abrick copy pasta instead?😭

[turbid bridge]

Nah CW pasta

[inner crown]

Meh I just wish she had more armor or a longer dress.

[quiet lily]

old but gold pasta

[livid lark]

no it was people trying to justify cw and skipping everyone else

[zenith kernel]

Cw brick pasta before cw is crazy

[old dune]

as for liv, do i even ult on her after double passive if wata just became ready or keep that for the next cycle?

[inner crown]

lol I just made that up on the spot unless you were talking about a different post

[woven haven]

if wata cd is over just swap off

[livid lark]

also remember the skip car propaganda

[subtle zinc]

shes cutesy and clumsy tho

[zenith kernel]

?????
Was it pgr reddit again😭

[woven haven]

Just do like
cores one liv rot
ult the other

[livid lark]

idr
either that or youtube

[old dune]

I see

[zenith thorn]

no it was YouTube

[turbid bridge]

Different one, not yours don’t worry

[old dune]

thanks for the help

[zenith kernel]

Fury
Has to be

[zenith thorn]

i was there when it was written :lmaocry:

[inner crown]

Thought so. I’m original ok o don’t resort to copypastas

[zenith kernel]

[livid lark]

who's vid was that?

[zenith thorn]

it was on some wuwa leaked video

[zenith thorn]

idk look above

[livid lark]

oh ok

[shadow holly]

https://youtu.be/ttGsKtCDPAU?si=U-IOf9rjMgfEStYJ
this run is uh
a bit higher invest than your team but here is an example of two triple rots on wata.
it should always end on a hyper rot

if you're doing three triple rots on wata then you won't rly have time for a hyper rot at the end and will be left with like 3-4 seconds of dead time
it is what it is but SS3 hyper doesn't do much

SSS Empy with leap would ult every other rot instead of every rot like s+ Empy here
you kinda just do a couple of cores and swap off to Wata as soon as his cooldown is done
and yeah you can skip all hyper orbs but I would recommend doing the last red one to cancel it with ult for more damage
considering your Empy rots are quite short because you're not ulting every time, shouldn't be much of a problem

[zenith thorn]

it was b4 cbt 2 too

[woven haven]

each to their own tastes but pgr devs literally do not care about preserving waifus in meta

nanami got beat down by wata so CW got beat down by nanami after

[charred hawk]

guys what resonance for vera?

[woven haven]

And besides the mech was very clunky and bad to play

[livid lark]

use the bot

[woven haven]

Nanaknight is milessssss better to play and cooler

[old dune]

thanks

[woven haven]

• all the monster hunter references are peak

[charred hawk]

idk the commands and which channel to use it in

[shadow holly]

class bottom

[white oriole]

ARUTIMETO SUPEKUTAKURU YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[livid lark]

#📨・bot-info

[charred hawk]

ok tq

[livid lark]

and use slash commands

[inner crown]

There was an attempt with leaps atleast. But too bad it kinda fell flat.

[woven haven]

cw leap is actually genuinely so disappointing

[livid lark]

mech wasnt even considered leap worthy lmao

[inner crown]

All we can hope is for another alpha frame 10x better than the last

[woven haven]

like it was actually so mediocre

[livid lark]

that depends if she still lives in the story

[woven haven]

even the new moveset is unusable for lightning content

[quiet lily]

nuh uh

[woven haven]

you physically cannot use alpha leap moveset in lightning team

[inner crown]

Idfk I haven’t gotten past kwoolong

[livid lark]

well yea im just saying you might be placing your hopes a little too high there waiting for alpha

[abstract heron]

almost everything is umbrasurge related right?

[true pivot]

oh yea, i dont need to run anything on changyu right?

[dawn cloak]

What do you mean by lvling up profile
Commandant level? Doing the event mission and taking the student teacher relationship would helps

[livid lark]

pretty sure it's just level to 80, max class skill and pop dv + eins

[subtle zinc]

this is helpful, I was sort of stress testing canceling lee orbs vs emp ult every swap and I definitely just went with "if wata has enough time on his cd" to ult on her or not

[inner crown]

I honestly don’t really care all to much about her like as a waifu I just liked her design and combat. Lamia is my true waifu, and that reminds me I need to go spend my life savings on her gacha skin.

[gusty galleon]

yes that's what I mean, thank you so much!

[meager iris]

[subtle zinc]

whats the IB boss this wk}

[shadow holly]

lamia

[subtle zinc]

o cool

[old dune]

got another question for dark team, current lineup is:
SS3 r0 Daren
SSS r1 Lamia
SS7 Capri no sig/SSS+ Vera no sig/SSS+ teddy
how would i start a WZ run? I know on bosses depending on if Lamia can onetap/twotap them with ult to not bother with daren at the start but for wz im not sure if i should start with her and solo immediately or do a daren ult first

[livid lark]

pretty sure this is solo dark

[true pivot]

my ayla is running davin eins though

[livid lark]

rotating without an invested capri is kinda...

[subtle zinc]

submissive Lamia making everyone cry I love to see it

[livid lark]

if you're running off elem support i think it's even more of a reason for you to run solo since no capri at sss or no scire at ss3 means you can't rotate properly without losing damage

[true pivot]

wrong person

[shadow holly]

you should not play swap with that invest
just run solo lamia then

not even r1 scire is rly bad

[old dune]

in that case do i completely ignore scire's ult in wz then? (at the start)

[livid lark]

yup

[woven haven]

yes
CW leap parts relevant to lightning are

1. matrix ping force consumes max 1 orb (like oblivion sig effect)
2. minor dmg increase for hold dodge and orbs
3. When doing slam, CW orbs will turn white for umbrasurge and when turning back to regular orbs, they will randomly rerolled into red or yellow and be sorted by colour
4. when outside ult mode, all orbs are force converted to blue
5. extra energy when swapping into cw
6. at sss, qte dmg goes from 460% -> 5060% permanently after using ult2 once
7. at SSS+, gain 15% extra dmg bonus
8. pretty irrelevant but, after red/yellow 3ping, hold dodge bar charges faster and will automatically release after the bar is full
9. after slam, ult gains dmg bonus for each point of slam consumed, up to +90% at 600 point slam

[livid lark]

without r1 scire you cant run dlt

and scire needs dlt

minimum

[shadow holly]

ig at the start you could do a scire quick rot for shred field if it helps

but yeah only one time

[livid lark]

no dlt scire even at ss3 is painge

like it's a terrible experience

[true pivot]

hows 3s scire to ss3

[summer topaz]

pretty much the same

[old dune]

what invest would i need on Lilith later on to make her usable?

[shadow holly]

it's not painge
it's dysfunctional
you will NOT get 3x3 without dlt

[summer topaz]

at least gameplaywise

[shadow holly]

that sht bricked

[woven haven]

15%+ more shred

[livid lark]

i mean it's kinda the same isnt it

[shadow holly]

[woven haven]

After leap

10% dark shred and 5% extra dmg shred

[true pivot]

didnt one of her ranks have a 4x 3p change as well

[summer topaz]

but yes you need dlt

[shadow holly]

[woven haven]

sss3

[true pivot]

ow

[woven haven]

not sss

[livid lark]

tololo says yes

[old dune]

in that case should i even stick dlt on her or ignore her completely?

[turbid bridge]

Auto spin at SSS and 5% EDR makes it worth anyway

[abstract heron]

the qte damage is good tho

[livid lark]

wait so i dont have to mash BA to spin at 3S?

[woven haven]

you know that a +1000% qte dmg bonus sucks on cw right

everyone else has 600% atk qte
cw only has 460%

[true pivot]

ill prob vouch her then, since she is still somehow relevant in ion and dark

[turbid bridge]

Ye just tap and hold BA

[woven haven]

Its like the most lmao thing ever

[shadow holly]

[livid lark]

wuduhell

i busted my controller for nothing

[shadow holly]

[turbid bridge]

Relevant in ion for 2 sync patch

[true pivot]

wh

replaced by who

[woven haven]

Hey when are you v5 tololo i need it

[livid lark]

if i had sss i could have preserved my ps5 controller

[summer topaz]

i didnt know that but then again i just use the autofire keybind

[turbid bridge]

Just nice she becomes voucherable next patch

[shadow holly]

where ur rapid fire

[turbid bridge]

Lilith

[livid lark]

wdym

[shadow holly]

idk fund me a bit
I'm halfway there

[abstract heron]

ik it, that's the funny part

[turbid bridge]

Keyboard settings should have rapid fire for PGR

[livid lark]

my R2 button broke

[true pivot]

lilith is dark tank? i forgot

[turbid bridge]

Oh controller nevermind

[abstract heron]

cw qte damage is the same as teddy's

[livid lark]

but i use the default settings for my ps controller kekw

[abstract heron]

before leap

[turbid bridge]

Dark amplifier, but also ion enabler

[shadow holly]

PGR on PC has a button bind that spams attack for you

[livid lark]

for keyboard tho

[true pivot]

wait so whats the ion team with lilith

[livid lark]

i play on controller

[shadow holly]

wtf it doesn't work with controller??

bricked

[livid lark]

i didnt even know there was lol

[turbid bridge]

Pyroath + Nanaknight + Lilith

[true pivot]

huh

nanaknight...

[livid lark]

rip scire

[true pivot]

is she there because shes the strongest or because shes nanami

[livid lark]

there should be a new meme with this template

[turbid bridge]

Actually does damage + off-field shred + -3s swap CD at SSS*

[livid lark]

nanami saikyou

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1257364642133446798/1281522287845314641/NANAMI.gif

[true pivot]

isnt that 3s a 3s thing

hoe edited

[woven haven]

yeah but the other two points still hold
you need a lightning tank

[abstract heron]

mouse 5?

[true pivot]

right, lightning...

[turbid bridge]

Ye but even then without 3S that team is a lot better than Scire ion team

[shadow holly]

do you not have 5 mice connected to your PC?

[lusty tendon]

@shadow holly eu ||hero||

[true pivot]

holy ehel

[shadow holly]

exempt acc in hero?

[true pivot]

i wonder how do whales even get enough ht mats to insta level when a character drops

[scarlet fern]

Guys should I get empyrea from here or should I keep buying the shards for weapon resonances

[lusty tendon]

ya it has returnee too

nobody logged in here forever

[shadow holly]

also could u check runs I sent in void

[livid lark]

wdym keep buying weapon resonance shards

[lusty tendon]

[true pivot]

because im pretty sure its almost impossible to buy ht mats other than vouchers by money

[shadow holly]

idk if I'm bad or eu scoring is compromised

[livid lark]

is that what you've done with your vouchers?

[scarlet fern]

This

[turbid bridge]

Long time players have excess HT mats unlike us

[shadow holly]

not s full s+ tho too poverty for jeremey

[scarlet fern]

Don't tell me I bricked myself

[livid lark]

yea thats what im asking you

[meager iris]

exempt rising from the dead

[glass edge]

too cute im ded

[livid lark]

smh

[rose yew]

dayum rich

[livid lark]

rest in pieces

[scarlet fern]

Yeah that's what I've been doing
What's the problem though

[true pivot]

holy hell they really bricked us newbies

[livid lark]

not wise to use your vouchers on that

it should all have gone to character shards

[scarlet fern]

Don't I need weapon resonance like dlt for charecters like qu and luna

[livid lark]

yea but you just need to wait for several rotations of norman

[scarlet fern]

Then where am I supposed to get shards/weapon resonances from...

[livid lark]

have you not been doing that?

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-fresh-mr-fresh-cat-cat-eating-cat-sleep-mr-fresh-eat-gif-15377773890486741194

[rose yew]

fate banner

[gusty galleon]

she doesn't want you to quit

[glass edge]

i cant get a refund for buying wrong shards with this

[scarlet fern]

I've been doing Norman too yeah

[rose yew]

just buy leap materials from voucher shop

[livid lark]

you can also pull weapons

honestly tho what's the rush

[true pivot]

does cn have any alt ht farming stages, or still garbage

[rose yew]

same as we have on globful now

[turbid bridge]

No, but they do have paid packs and online events that give HT mats

[scarlet fern]

I pull weapons for the newer chars
I have weapons for lamia qu and luna

And rosetta too but that's dookie

[true pivot]

[livid lark]

you can't get unit shards from anywhere else besides the voucher shop or the ppc shop

[lusty tendon]

something i started doing in the beginning was insta pressing dv as soon as i do the 3 red on wata - just saves like half a sec on empy cd for hyperreal's tag in

dunno if it would make a diff but i think there's a world where hyperreal ult1 can bleed through w6 into w7 if the first red full hits that wave; would let lee ult finish w7 and liv on w8; which lets wata get blaze orb dmg bleed into w9

then it's just a diff run from there

[livid lark]

if you wait you can literally farm all your resonances

[true pivot]

they... added paid packs that give ht mats...

[old dune]

btw, how does getting upgrade materials from derived from matrix work? do i have to go through the whole stage with a character for them to gain a "level"?

[true pivot]

is that even worth...

[turbid bridge]

Ye like 1 HT worth per pack, 128 RC with 20 RC to yellow ticket ratio

[turbid bridge]

If you’re desperate sure, otherwise no

[lusty tendon]

not having dv on the lee ult1 on w15 was pretty tragic too

[true pivot]

ew 20

[shadow holly]

considering it's not s+ Lee his ult2 is not even close to finishing off that wave I think

[true pivot]

128 RC FOR ONE HT?

[lusty tendon]

if you get the bleed dmg on w7 it def will kill

[shadow holly]

[turbid bridge]

Just spend $100 and you get to HT 5 whole times

[lusty tendon]

or at least be dead on empy core

and have liv ult into next wave still

[true pivot]

where the 6th for bot reso

[shadow holly]

hmge I'll try later if I have time
but setting up a whole new run seems painful

[turbid bridge]

$100 only enough for 600RC, 128 x 6 is 768RC

[lusty tendon]

we mald w6>w7 on NA looks way tighter than eu

[true pivot]

its 149.99 here

[lusty tendon]

if non s+ lee is doing that

[turbid bridge]

Nah bro is topping up in game

[true pivot]

i get bps and monthlies

i dont go crazy

ok i am but like

[vague nebula]

omg whel

[shadow holly]

compromised char
Lucia when

can we kill lee

in story

so that he doesn't get any new frames

[rose yew]

dark Lucia at last?

[meager iris]

the perfect run, lamia:

[true pivot]

gonna mald fire properly later, is his 2nd rot:

ba > 3p > ba > 3p > ult1 > ba > 3p > 3 blaze > ba > 3p > ba > 3p > 2 blaze > ult2

[livid lark]

im pretty sure he wont be alr

[rose yew]

[eager lark]

hello may i know which one i should get here? I'm planning to get epitaph on the base check banner and i got this selector from the novice event.

[waxen vine]

which build should i go for teddy and no 21?

[vague nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-fish-spinning-fish-tank-silly-fish-fish-spinning-fast-gif-13360792540199812375

[true pivot]

i dont know the proper 2nd wata rot

[old dune]

anyone knows how the characters ranks work in Derived from Matrix? I mean the rank that gives upgrade materials for the skill tree.

[waxen vine]

rosetta rigor if you want the most meta suggestion and alpha crimson abyss if you are a cultural person

[vague nebula]

4 dv 2 guin on teddy
4 bath 2 eins on 21 xxi

[true pivot]

all i know is:
3p > 3p > ult > 3p > ba > 3p > ba > 3p > ba > 3 blaze > ba > blaze > ult

[turbid bridge]

Just do it like Shakes rot for Epitaph in Nihil WZ

[true pivot]

ok imma find the "sanest shakes wata rot" image

[shadow holly]

that's shakes rot
though without the 3p before the last 2 blaze

[rose yew]

[turbid bridge]

Levels up based on usage in DFM runs, so pick the character in your team if you want to level them

[waxen vine]

what if i want to use teddy for dps...

[turbid bridge]

4 Bathlon 2 Darwin

[vale raft]

Teddy: Decryptor <:a_rank:1290613305416880169><:support:1290613751242035303><:dark_element:1290613554923438102><:disorder:1288089672718876787>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Main DPS Set

Memories

4x Bathlon
2x Darwin

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Core Passive

Harmony Recommendation

Boone

[vague nebula]

[eager lark]

additional question, which team should i build if i choose rosetta rigor? I'm new so I only have the beginner characters right now

[old dune]

by usage you mean active time on field or can i stick karen blast in the back and murder everything with luna?

[livid lark]

ahem

it's there on the bot lol

[turbid bridge]

The latter, just sit in team as moral support

[shadow holly]

to be fair now it's kinda useless getting Rosetta she's getting replaced next patch lmao

[vague nebula]

[livid lark]

doesnt rose lance shred stack with hanying's?

[waxen vine]

rosetta is a physical tank so you need a physical attacker and amp / support to build a physical team but do note that rigor is getting replaced with new frame next patch so yee

[shadow holly]

only her sig unique 20% shred

[livid lark]

i guess as a newer player it probably doesnt help

[waxen vine]

[waxen vine]

thanks 🙂

[livid lark]

oh alright fair enough

[shadow holly]

her lance of perception debuff gets renamed into piercing strike to be standardized

[livid lark]

aww hell naw

[digital moat]

no

[vague nebula]

[livid lark]

KUROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[dawn cloak]

I think ppl are suggesting Luna Laurel from here

[shadow holly]

[vague nebula]

wow kuso

[livid lark]

that's gei

[turbid bridge]

Does defense shred even do anything past 100%?

[mighty tusk]

wtf

[livid lark]

booooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[vague nebula]

[digital moat]

Lmfao dark physical

Good fcking luck malders

[mighty tusk]

NOT EVEN FIRE BRU

[shadow holly]

no

[mighty tusk]

I CANT EVEN PLAY SWAP DARK

[shadow holly]

overcap is completely wasted

[eager lark]

she's dark element right? i have no21xx S so i might just go for her since the gundam girl's getting replaced. I also have the A support selector so i should get vera since she's dark?

[turbid bridge]

So no more Rigor Cath, but I don’t have lantern. That’s just fked

[shadow holly]

you can
you would have basically 3 functional teams this way, although Watanabe epitaph would be two timing

dark with laurel, void with oblivion, and fire with epitaph

and epitaph will be used in both fire and void

[dawn cloak]

This was what ppl here told me yesterday. Im also new

pick Wanshi and XXI for A selector, and Lee Entropy and Luna Laurel for S selector

For blue ticket banner pick S rank Watanabe Epitaph and A rank XXI (to get more dupes of XXI on top of the selector)
Maybe it helps

[shadow holly]

if ur doing the zaza build for PPC ur still using Cath
you can do the no 4p sig mem Hanying build and try it for more normal clears
though I just don't know how much damage the harmonics orb does
maybe it's actually enough of a nuke that it's worth using 4p changwuzi in normal ppc

[mighty tusk]

WTF IS THIS

[eager lark]

got it. thanks guys!

[shadow holly]

^ main thing is that the support a rank selector doesn't rly matter much
you get free shards for Bridget and Teddy and Teddy is the best budget option for dark team support, and you'll also use her for void unless you have a competently enough built epitaph to play swap with oblivion

[turbid bridge]

I’ll have to test next patch I guess thanks thanks

[vale raft]

This boss does not have a valid Onslaught PPC variant!

[shadow holly]

if anything could try uh
4patton2darwin2cottie for her
if no cot is too slow

[turbid bridge]

[shadow holly]

but idk really setsu put a lot of emphasis that the no 4p sig set is exclusively for the onslaught single rot clear

[turbid bridge]

Yea I saw the remarks

[shadow holly]

so maybe for squishier clears the harmonics orb does indeed do good damage
or non Cottie is giga slow

[vague nebula]

55 million hp too

[shadow holly]

so could try to remedy that by running Cottie instead of the 2p changwuzi or smth

or just run the normal 4p changwuzi 2cot 2dw

dumbass char

Selena when

[turbid bridge]

Alright testing to be done next patch

[mighty tusk]

how did my phy score higher than void

and just 2 sec difference too

[dense tiger]

what should i get from this i am a returning/new player

[vague nebula]

last week i was pepegaing with luna so my lightning score was higher

[mighty tusk]

HOW DID MY CUBLESS PHY SCORE HIGHER THAN VOID

[lusty tendon]

is this not s+ cappri @shadow holly

[shadow holly]

invest in title
yes ew doesn't have s+ Capri
yes it gave me cancer

[lusty tendon]

idk how to read numbers

[shadow holly]

s+ fish 3s3 Scire SSS cap

[lusty tendon]

non s+ cappri is pretty deadge

how does this char even work

[shadow holly]

yeah normally should've been able to at least get the dive in the end

[zenith kernel]

S5.

[shadow holly]

but her first swapin is giga slow without cottie

[mighty tusk]

she's ss now

[vague nebula]

this is pain cage shop. u get 30 shards of an s rank from here. basically a dupe u get for free.

1st buy oblivion shards.

[shadow holly]

and I need that DV to hit damage breakpoints

[lusty tendon]

ya it's like -2s

so no dive

[proud badger]

what team can I make for Ayla Kaleido? I don't have Glory nor Shukra yet

[lusty tendon]

and the waves look really tight

that's prob as good of a run you're gonna get with this

[zenith kernel]

I would say it's a skill issue
But nah, that shield is just stupid tankey

[lusty tendon]

[shadow holly]

at least dark good

I'll try smth with fire

[mighty tusk]

lemme retry
also I have r0 luna

[dapper skiff]

U got higher float

[dense tiger]

oh ok thanks i wanted to make sure cause ppl told me to get stigmata to SS

[zenith kernel]

I haven't even unlocked Onslaught yet,
Idk what a good time is for my ice invest so waiting for Windlao😔

[dense tiger]

i get oblivion shards even if i keep pulling on this banner ?

[shadow holly]

at least 10s

[vague nebula]

yeah i notice u have stigmata too. u can play oblivion at s too but stigmata without ss sucks. but i suggested oblivion cus in 29 days we have new physical tank who becomes main dps for physical.

so u can decide which one to ss 1st. stigmata or oblivion.

[deft apex]

I cant read chinese so

[rose yew]

it turns into vouchers used in voucher shop

[shadow holly]

migu

[rose yew]

trs

[glass bay]

Miku are u even still playing

[vague nebula]

why r u pulling on this banner after u have oblivion? don't u want next units?

[meager iris]

the amount of rng on dark onslaught is disgusting

[dense tiger]

oh so i just save pull curency

[rose yew]

malding wz surrounded by 6.6m+

[jovial hinge]

is he best choice i am new

[mighty tusk]

nvm, false alarm, I have skill issues with void

[vague nebula]

yes

[glass bay]

Whel

[dense tiger]

oh ok i think i will get oblivion first cause she is why i got back to the game (quit after i got stigmata on her release)

[zenith kernel]

𓀔𓀇𓀅𓀋𓀡𓀡𓀕𓀠𓀧𓀨𓀣𓀷𓀷𓀿𓀿𓁀𓁶𓁰
𓁴𓁿𓂀𓁾𓁵𓁯𓂞𓂤𓂗𓃃𓂾𓂺𓂹
𓃞𓃙𓃖𓃓𓃕𓃓𓃜𓃘𓃙𓃟𓃛𓃞
𓂺𓃂𓂿𓂺𓃃𓃂𓂛𓂏𓅱𓅥𓅩𓅦
𓅹𓅸𓅳𓅩𓅪𓄭𓄫𓄮𓄬𓄗𓄑𓄌𓃦
𓃧𓃨𓃤𓃟𓃓𓃅𓃁𓂽𓃂𓂊𓁾𓂀𓁽
𓁼𓁠𓁛𓁟𓁦𓁜𓁭𓁡𓀔𓀇𓀅𓀋𓀡𓀡𓀕𓀠𓀧𓀨𓀣
𓀷𓀷𓀿𓀿𓁀𓁶𓁰𓁴𓁿𓂀𓁾𓁵𓁯𓂞𓂤𓂗
𓃃𓂾𓂺𓂹𓃞𓃙𓃖𓃓𓃕𓃓𓃜
𓃘𓃙𓃟𓃛𓃞𓂺𓃂𓂿𓂺𓃃𓃂
𓂛𓂏𓅱𓅥𓅩𓅦𓅹𓅸𓅳𓅩𓅪𓄭𓄫𓄮
𓄬𓄗𓄑𓄌𓃦𓃧𓃨𓃤𓃟𓃓𓃅𓃁
𓂽𓃂𓂊𓁾𓂀𓁽𓁼𓁠𓁛𓁟𓁦𓁜𓁭𓁡𓀔𓀇𓀅
𓀋𓀡𓀡𓀕𓀠𓀧𓀨𓀣𓀷𓀷𓀿𓀿𓁀𓁶𓁰𓁴𓁿
𓂀𓁾𓁵𓁯𓂞𓂤𓂗𓃃𓂾𓂺𓂹𓃞𓃙
𓃖𓃓𓃕𓃓𓃜𓃘𓃙𓃟𓃛𓃞𓂺𓃂

[rose yew]

I see shikonoko in there

[shadow holly]

https://tenor.com/view/the-pharaohs-curse-rabelious-gif-5991159984049487001

[vernal portal]

Pharaoh curse (why its kinda innapropriate)

[vague nebula]

well yes. each character costs 15k bc so need to be careful with that. also since this is themed research its pity will carry to next themed research. but remember 60 pulls or 15k bc is must for getting s rank.

[vernal portal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162344479513124884/1330167349659303958/castorice_live_.png?ex=67919ba1&is=67904a21&hm=be1848b7dc00feba21b5ece01ef70721f96e50f0468d48ffa6284ac3c7e0f277&

[vague nebula]

alright

[flint igloo]

Should I build any of these chars or wait for better ones?

[rose yew]

ignore luna
build lotus

[vernal portal]

Ignore kusogames
Build life

[vague nebula]

this is what it looks like when someone sends me shakes wata rotation in writing

[glass bay]

U legend?

[rose yew]

mhm

I'm demoting if I see 6mil in hero

[flint igloo]

Got her at 9 pity guys wooo

[glass bay]

Whel

[zenith kernel]

Happy for you;𓀔𓀇𓀅𓀋𓀡𓀡𓀕𓀠𓀧𓀨𓀣𓀷𓀷𓀿𓀿𓁀𓁶𓁰
𓁴𓁿𓂀𓁾𓁵𓁯𓂞𓂤𓂗𓃃𓂾𓂺𓂹
𓃞𓃙𓃖𓃓𓃕𓃓𓃜𓃘𓃙𓃟𓃛𓃞
𓂺𓃂𓂿𓂺𓃃𓃂𓂛𓂏𓅱𓅥𓅩𓅦
𓅹𓅸𓅳𓅩𓅪𓄭𓄫𓄮𓄬𓄗𓄑𓄌𓃦
𓃧𓃨𓃤𓃟𓃓𓃅𓃁𓂽𓃂𓂊𓁾𓂀𓁽
𓁼𓁠𓁛𓁟𓁦𓁜𓁭𓁡𓀔𓀇𓀅𓀋𓀡𓀡𓀕𓀠𓀧𓀨𓀣
𓀷𓀷𓀿𓀿𓁀𓁶𓁰𓁴𓁿𓂀𓁾𓁵𓁯𓂞𓂤𓂗
𓃃𓂾𓂺𓂹𓃞𓃙𓃖𓃓𓃕𓃓𓃜
𓃘𓃙𓃟𓃛𓃞𓂺𓃂𓂿𓂺𓃃𓃂
𓂛𓂏𓅱𓅥𓅩𓅦𓅹𓅸𓅳𓅩𓅪𓄭𓄫𓄮
𓄬𓄗𓄑𓄌𓃦𓃧𓃨𓃤𓃟𓃓𓃅𓃁
𓂽𓃂𓂊𓁾𓂀𓁽𓁼𓁠𓁛𓁟𓁦𓁜𓁭𓁡𓀔𓀇𓀅
𓀋𓀡𓀡𓀕𓀠𓀧𓀨𓀣𓀷𓀷𓀿𓀿𓁀𓁶𓁰𓁴𓁿
𓂀𓁾𓁵𓁯𓂞𓂤𓂗𓃃𓂾𓂺𓂹𓃞𓃙
𓃖𓃓𓃕𓃓𓃜𓃘𓃙𓃟𓃛𓃞𓂺𓃂

[zenith kernel]

[mighty tusk]

you'll get used to it

[mighty tusk]

#📀・video-share message
like this

[vague nebula]

i refuse

[vague nebula]

imma watch the video for wata rot tho

[mighty tusk]

it does have wata rot

[distant wren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHyMiien7Go
lmao gb meta

did not expect to actually see a vid lol

[zenith kernel]

I've Wata rotted so hard I'm doing it in my sleep 😭

[zenith kernel]

EU has garbage this week
Gimme teddy damnit

[mighty tusk]

same

[distant wren]

what do u guys have lol

[sick flower]

am i cooking or am i cooking

[woven haven]

not

[mighty tusk]

it's like a desert here

[sick flower]

explain how am i not cooking

[distant wren]

at least there's bridget there

[zenith kernel]

You are cooked 😭

[woven haven]

both alphas

not a great choice to have

[zenith kernel]

Without weapon.
Without firegod

[woven haven]

especially for newbie

[zenith kernel]

Tf am I supposed to do with her

[sick flower]

its a problem to like alpha?

[zenith kernel]

😭

[ripe stag]

I don't wanna do Lilith

[waxen vine]

for kaleido is it good to run Aline x4 / Cottie x2 as a main ice dps build?

[distant wren]

lmao i built leap palefire before so i used him

[carmine reef]

some sins can never be forgiven

[woven haven]

more like you picked her over substantially more useful units

[sick flower]

im not even using crimson abbys yet

[ripe stag]

No Qukra ?

[carmine reef]

that's her main dps build yeah

[distant wren]

teddy i haven't raised and not sure i'll do soon

[woven haven]

In both standard and the freebie selectors

[waxen vine]

ye

[waxen vine]

nice thanks

[sick flower]

no she was from an S tier selection which had horrible characters so i had to pick her

[ripe stag]

4 Aileen 2 Darwin I guess
I forgot

[woven haven]

But rosetta was there who is better than her

[sick flower]

of course i wouldnt pick her if there were great characters

[sick flower]

are you sure rosetta was there

[carmine reef]

well to be fair not much reason to pick rosetta now

[true pivot]

wait i forgot to ask b4 i butcher ice, if my alya using davink what is my chang3 gonna run

[woven haven]

i mean at least still has some use over ca

[sick flower]

when i sent the ss here you guys said they all suck

[ripe stag]

222

[carmine reef]

not really cause you want her ss and sig but both those things would be a waste at this point

[ripe stag]

2 Gloria 2 Eins 2 Lantern

[carmine reef]

although lately we're seeing people pick laurel from that selector

[mighty tusk]

plus we recommend tonitrus

[carmine reef]

yep

[shadow mica]

They do all suck, especially the Mail 5 pick selector. It's a matter of choosing who sucks the least/the best alternatives

[woven haven]

Yeah but there were so many better other options
esp for the standard banner one you used to pick cw presumably

[woven haven]

still not CA in any case

[ripe stag]

After Hanying patch
Do we still recommend people to get epitaph ?

[woven haven]

Wanna bet she has CA sig too

[carmine reef]

i think if hanying weren't coming out next patch, CA would be an okay choice

[woven haven]

[mighty tusk]

if no luna, get luna

[woven haven]

ok but
if hanying wasn’t coming out soon then rosetta would be an even better choice because no other phys tank works

[mighty tusk]

if with luna, then epitaph or shukra

[woven haven]

So its kinda just looping back to that

[carmine reef]

that's fair

[ripe stag]

Ok
I'll tell my friend to pick cw

[rose yew]

just recommend the newest non free S rank

[ripe stag]

[mighty tusk]

hear me out
B-nanami

[carmine reef]

then i will loop back to "it's a fine choice because rosetta is replaced soon"

[woven haven]

So picking CA was bad regardless
and picking cw rip

[distant wren]

you uh... asked in general chat didn't you?

[sick flower]

no i asked here

[waxen vine]

jesus pgr wiki is throwing me off it is calling memory this while in information window it is calling it aline and in game its called aline jesus

[woven haven]

i mean if you want to go further that way
Then Entropy in first 5 selector
and laurel in second

[marble pulsar]

What's the best team for current clash reflection?

[woven haven]

Its still no reason to pick CA

[distant wren]

did you send a pic?

[lunar lava]

Dont mind This dude. He trolls himself

[sick flower]

dont worry i dont regret picking crimson weave

[carmine reef]

i'm not disagreeing with that, those are what i recommend myself
i'm just saying it's not really much of a loss to have picked CA

it's not the optimal choice but it's also not a loss

[sick flower]

who

[carmine reef]

in the end it doesn't matter at all

[ripe stag]

Don't worry man
#💬・pgr-general had a literally 2 v 4 yesterday cuz a newbie came to ask if CW is still best pick or not and when someone told them "no. SS0 Nanaknight is way better than CW and she's not the Main-DPS when Nanaknight comes out. Pick Epitaph", that newbie went complete haywire and starting saying shi*

Don't worry

Aether

[woven haven]

and what about sakura instead of tonitrus

[lunar lava]

you

[sick flower]

yes i am a troll

[carmine reef]

did they actually pick that

[ripe stag]

And dude left PGR cuz CW is not best anymore

[carmine reef]

or are you just guessing

[shadow holly]

send link I'm bored

[woven haven]

i think if someone picked ca
they’d probably 99% pick her sig too

[carmine reef]

so you're just guessing

[woven haven]

Esp since tonitrus is not a well known thing

[sick flower]

im the biggest troll in this server

[woven haven]

Its almost a given what else would u pick anyways

[ripe stag]

I can't even search it out of the pile of crap we have today in that chat

[sick flower]

im trolling so hard i deserve a ban

[woven haven]

i mean you can ask them for a screenie of their CA

[ripe stag]

Ok

[carmine reef]

idk i'm not really that invested in seeking out things to hate like you are

[ripe stag]

.bean @sick flower trolling aether is punishable by death

[sick flower]

i deserve a ban cause i havent been playing the game for years right?

[ripe stag]

Get 🫛

[lunar lava]

it was a dude that went ballistic bcz CW was bad. Then left by saying "Smh this server toxic no one wants to help"

[sick flower]

you guys are fucing stupid saying everyone thats not into the game is troll

[pine slate]

bro windbell is dealing more dmg than me while using ss alisa

[carmine reef]

i don't think the character selector options matter much, and like you said the sig selector tonitrus pick is not intuitive so we can't really blame people for missing that either

[sick flower]

keep making fun of newbies mfs you are doing an amazing job

[distant wren]

pick w/e you want, but don't lie about asking here
i searched your messages, you asked about picking in general chat

[mighty tusk]

score?

[quartz dove]

Dalao debate

[sly geyser]

just landed in a warfare ?

[quartz dove]

[woven haven]

my point is simply that CA pick usually leads to picking sakura
Its more or less a logical endpoint
not hating on that its just a fact of what people do

[mighty tusk]

I only got 58 sec

[pine slate]

i should be able to 14/15s

[shadow mica]

One person said that and you're acting like the whole server is attacking you, calm down

[lunar lava]

#💬・pgr-general message

[pine slate]

what score, im doing hell redliv

[sly geyser]

🍿

[sick flower]

no everyday at least 1 guy says im trolling

[carmine reef]

not hating is the biggest cap you ever shot out

[mighty tusk]

I thought it's onslaught

[sick flower]

like picking a fuking character is trolling a server

[deft apex]

Tbf this cant be just on us
Everytime I see you here you're complaining we dont help but then somehow when you get an answer u still get the wrong results

[sick flower]

WHAT DID I GET WRONG

I DID EXACTLY WHAT YOU GUYS SAID YESTERDAY

THERE IS NOT A SINGLE ERROR RN

[shadow mica]

"Did I do good guys by picking Alpha?"
"No you didnt"
"How DARE YOU, I LOVE ALPHA"

[sick flower]

YET YOU GUYS ARE STILL SAYING ITS BAD

[distant wren]

and they lied about asking us here

[woven haven]

i’m not hating on this specifically i’m just pointing out that the newbie selector choices go hand in hand and if you picked one you likely picked their sig too

[distant wren]

when they did in general

[sick flower]

oh my fucing god you guys arent real

[shadow holly]

ty pooks

[rose yew]

[woven haven]

and he did start with asking “is this good” basically

[carmine reef]

[ebon adder]

what is this conversation rn damn

[quick plover]

Rn we can only do 6/12 stages of war zone only??

[woven haven]

I mean its only just fair criticism of the picks that’s it

[carmine reef]

wz is twice a week

[lunar lava]

🫰

[mighty tusk]

same old gph being toxic af
channel will be called out soon

[shadow mica]

Waiting for the Reddit post later tonight

[mighty tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/aya-maruyama-aya-bang-dream-bandori-pastel-palettes-gif-25153557

[snow agate]

sorry to interrupt a convo here, guys if two of my team mates wear the same 2pc memories eg cottie, does it still take effect for both?

[sly geyser]

LMAO

[distant wren]

[woven haven]

Zexous and Kurai going out of their way to be toxic recently

[mighty tusk]

yes

[woven haven]

The effect will apply to each separately
if it applies a teamwide buff it doesn’t stack but they have separate cooldowns

[carmine reef]

cottie is individual effect
but buffs and debuffs of the same 2pc don't stack

[sly geyser]

yes and it's kind of a waste actually

[flint igloo]

Guys how did I get this

[mighty tusk]

luna and ishmael?

[snow agate]

tyvm as always guys

[quick plover]

I see, so rest of 6 stages unlock when 2nd part starts?

[zenith kernel]

@distant wren I'm gonna kms😭

[woven haven]

i mean 2 units using 2pc cottie isn’t necessarily a waste

Lilith + Lamia
Luna + Ishmael

[sly geyser]

luna has darwin

[carmine reef]

yeah

also wata + hyper ss0 is double cottie

[woven haven]

resets on mon and thurs
you missed the mon session presumably so that’s halved the rewards

[mighty tusk]

holy grail of zaza

[woven haven]

isn’t there some ridiculous comp of shakes wata in that scenario

providing better score

[sly geyser]

wait lilith lamia is a thing ??

[zenith kernel]

Not anymore it ain't

[carmine reef]

i don't even think it's ridiculous

i'm getting better scores with shakes wata already

[sly geyser]

[woven haven]

both are cottie yes
double ult

[carmine reef]

but cottie build still exists and that's what we were doing when wata came out

[sly geyser]

dang on wz only ? or ppc too ?

[mighty tusk]

4 cottie hyper is kinda good IF skipping his orbs

[quick plover]

No i did not, i played WZ on monday

[ebon adder]

uhh am i cooking?

[carmine reef]

i was recommending 4cot harmo for ss0 from the beginning, cause he doesn't full stack dw regardless

[distant wren]

lots of us tested and non harmo ss0 hyper comp generally does better with shakes on wata

[jovial hinge]

wth my lvl is 53 i got lvl 60 cheracter is he good ?

[zenith kernel]

No.

[woven haven]

oh wait right its wed mbad
yeah wait till thurs for reset

tip btw wz in 1-2 patches is becoming weekly only rather than twice a week so

you won’t have to play it as much later

[sly geyser]

8 whole slots out of 24 is crazy

[carmine reef]

dogwater change

i want more wz

[ebon adder]

what are saving up vouchers for? i might be out of the loop

[zenith kernel]

Wanshi

[rose yew]

you'll still need around 80 more shards if you want to reso both Lucia and, Wanshi

[flint igloo]

Why did bro mention me

[sly geyser]

pure trash

[dusky quarry]

Biggest waste of vouchers in that case

[distant wren]

vouchers are for buying shards of certain S rank units, first and foremost

[quick plover]

I see, thats even better then wating for 2nd part

[ebon adder]

yeah.... shards are kinda slow

[jovial hinge]

oo game give me trash hmm

[dusky quarry]

Rather than Wanshi reso I prefer the sss

[ebon adder]

isnt wanshi fully from dorm?

[woven haven]

yes
and guys pls i was exaggerating on the ridiculous

[distant wren]

upcoming we have 2 units whose shards can be bought which are Wanshi and Lilith

[ebon adder]

oh

[woven haven]

wanshi is the last dorm unit yes

[sly geyser]

k whel

[dusky quarry]

He can survive without reso too

[rose yew]

dw Norman gives like 50 per 2 weeks now

[woven haven]

[zenith kernel]

Word of advice
That person spreads misinformation for fun
Save your Vouchers for character shards
Specifically Wanshi.

[rose yew]

or 65 I forgor

[distant wren]

you can only get him at base S, anymore upgrade and you'll have to use skulls (only 30 shards) and vouchers

[woven haven]

75 if ex-7 is cleared

[rose yew]

[dusky quarry]

It's achievable if you have enough vouchers saved in advance

[ebon adder]

thank you. duly noted

just wondering though, which reso do i need the most out of the upcoming characters?

[sly geyser]

50 wait? weapon reso shards !?? 💀

[distant wren]

lmao i saw this and i knew it was miku

[dusky quarry]

Bad that next patch we just getting 40 shards only

[vague nebula]

anyone knows the ost of this menu?
and where to get this live wallpaper?

[rose yew]

u thought it was bc?

[woven haven]

After Wanshi there’s no need to save 100k dorm coins anymore
not with lilith fk ing off to her own banner

[woven haven]

75
cuz
25 per rot
x3

[zenith kernel]

In my memory

[sly geyser]

google and shazam google again

[carmine reef]

on sync 100k dispatch coins takes literally 5 days anyway

[dusky quarry]

You can still do it for ht mats

[ebon adder]

oh ok

[woven haven]

1. in my memory
2. datamine it urself

[vague nebula]

[dusky quarry]

If needed

[sly geyser]

oh we were talking about globlul... lul

[vague nebula]

[woven haven]

no as in
you don’t need to hold on to 100k to day 1 a new dorm unit

[sly geyser]

[vague nebula]

thanks everyone

[dusky quarry]

Ah that

[woven haven]

Cuz lilith isn’t dorm

[dusky quarry]

Ofc, and ye i know Lilith has a banner of her own

[sly geyser]

🐳

[dusky quarry]

Is the sig included in advance?

[sly geyser]

fund me pls

I'm broke

[carmine reef]

found you

[dusky quarry]

Broke now, but not for pgr

I mean, because of it

[zenith kernel]

Pyroath
Needs dlt really bad

[sly geyser]

who will buy the 2 extra mpa and bp for me

[ebon adder]

so let me get this straight

1. wanshi can be acquired through dorm coins just like alisa
2. vouchers will be available for wanshi AND lilith other than that only frames with leaps
3. after wanshi dorm coins arent that needed anymore
4. weapon resonance on wanshi is not needed
5. how to get lilith?

[zenith kernel]

-sss+ bare minimum 3r 10k rc spent in the last year (year just started)

[rose yew]

event mission

[sly geyser]

it should snow today

[distant wren]

coins can be used to buy hypertune mats, also there's always a chance they could release another dorm unit down the line
but it's prolly not soon and saving dorm currency is not hard anyway, you can just keep 100k if you want to be careful

[sly geyser]

[zenith kernel]

You guys have snow?
We have ice rocks tryna kill us sometimes

[carmine reef]

you don't need to save dorm dispatch coins until we're fully caught up with CN which is not for a year

[woven haven]

yes but lilith sig is utter garbage

[carmine reef]

even on regular pace, it takes 2 weeks to save 100k
even faster on sync

[woven haven]

it only works because she’s cottie abuser

[vale raft]

Lilith: Daemonissa

Lament of Night's Debauchery ★★★★★★

Partings and New Beginnings

ATK increases by 10%. Upon casting Disenchanting Reveal, if Card Rank is at least B, gain 12 Signature Energy.

ATK

436

CRIT

249

Moon Umbrella

[woven haven]

tadaaaaaa

[sly geyser]

ah yes it is actually trash lmao

like 10% increases is like what 5* gives u lol

[woven haven]

its just higher base atk and energy

Energy after casting ult2 btw

[distant wren]

the free gacha + shop can get u 1 lilith copy, 1 sig 1 cub and 20 shards right?

[carmine reef]

older 5* weps used to do more than just dmg increase which means some of the older 5* are actually better than that lol

[woven haven]

this is only usable cuz lilith double ults

and can actually use the energy

[woven haven]

yes

that’s exactly what u get that’s all

[zenith kernel]

Damn
A sig that doesn't brick the entire character
That's refreshing.

[next dock]

Is there any reason to use PPC skulls in voucher characters?

[vague nebula]

damn. they cooked super hard with in my memory ost

eargasming

[zenith kernel]

Euphoric istg

[zenith kernel]

Easily top 3

[mighty tusk]

not recommended generally

[sly geyser]

with some gambling behaviour u a can actually go for the 30 extra shards in the second round as f2-... wait ur a whel anyway

[vague nebula]

fr. i love all parts

[next dock]

I see, thanks

Besides, should i harmo Alisa or Bianca first

[vague nebula]

fr fr

[abstract heron]

bianca

[vague nebula]

alisa is the 1st harmo