📨・meta-help

[split sail]

obviously low invest never matching higher invest with same skill

[foggy ridge]

oh christ on a stick my crappi is holding me back so hard in dark

[split sail]

the blue one

[prime sigil]

aight thanks

[split sail]

the reason i ask is cuz of the aforementioned Qu gaps in WZ being not actually all that big (DLT vs 0 reso, not sigless)

like sniping a good bracket >>> investing more

[woven haven]

if you start assuming everyone on glb will be lazy and not performing that well
then yeah sure you can use that argument for everything pretty much

[subtle zinc]

sniping isnt a thing unless you are so reliable with your scoring lol

[woven haven]

Hell just say no one is going to know how to play ion at all so just run lightning team with its -40% dmg loss

Also sniping only works the smaller your server is

[subtle zinc]

which means you could have just gotten a higher score to start with less time invested anyway

[woven haven]

hence why CN never talks about sniping

[quartz dove]

Bigger server mean easier retain tho

Legend cn i bigger than na hero

[livid lark]

because everyone tries over there?

[woven haven]

yeah it means bigger bell curve of invests

[quartz dove]

[river nymph]

[woven haven]

before luna patch update
to guarantee 1% ppc
at least one sss dps was the minimum comfortable breakpoint

unless you had everyone ss3 high invest and willing to mald for seconds worth of difference

and that’s with the bigger population

glb hero is more like cn elite leader usually bar the malder whales who are actually hero cn tier

[livid lark]

fair enough
global gacha community in general is lazy lol

[woven haven]

ofc after luna exppc was piss easy to get 66 skulls

[ebon adder]

for luna rot i somehow manage to get her ult as soon as i do two three pings, do i do the hold basic or the i spam ult whenever possible?

[woven haven]

But then 1% onslaught was generally full sss locked

sometimes even needed sss3 to not drop to 1-5%

[quartz dove]

Its not really motivating when u fight exact same 7 people

[livid lark]

well yea i understand that
im just saying that's just seeing how the general gacha gaming population usually is

most people prioritise waifu over gameplay

[true pivot]

still skill issuing void, has the next wzs been shown yet

i cant wait to demote

[woven haven]

hence why i don’t want to use “glb standards” as a practice for talking “comfortable” invests

cuz when you strawman everything the level some people do then it kinda loses all meaning to discuss the rank/rotation differences if your plan is just to snipe weak wz brackets all the time

[livid lark]

fair

[quartz dove]

fair

[barren plank]

fair

[foggy ridge]

jesus christ am i having a skill issue with dark or is sss lamia that damn busted?

[subtle zinc]

wait so people actually get demoted and then wait till the last day to top the leader board?

[shadow holly]

ofc it's busted

[woven haven]

Like “only 200k score diff on this glb wz week”
meanwhile cn brackets absolutely fighting over 4-10k points to retain

[livid lark]

i mean atp really the only way to really justify going to those high invests on global rn is if you want to get a good score for the sake of getting a good score

[ashen edge]

[livid lark]

rather than doing it for competitive

[foggy ridge]

i didnt think the gap would be THAT wide

[shadow holly]

tbf the actual malder whales on global could probably be in cn legend just fine
already saw byleth and blank even retaining leg on CN a couple times

[barren plank]

I don't understand why anyone would wanna play on a CN account long term the stress is unbearable

[woven haven]

Like CN wz when it comes to like the border rankers
like retain vs promote
or retain vs demote

esp for legend hero specifically

people bitchslap each other so often

[quartz dove]

[ashen edge]

ye almost 1m gap with sss is something

[woven haven]

people enjoy the competition

and CN is higher% of spenders so likely you’re a spender too

if you’re competing on cn

[barren plank]

That feels like an unhealthy amount of competitiveness tho

[livid lark]

also cn is cheaper to compete

[woven haven]

^

[shadow holly]

[livid lark]

dont forget how easy it is for them to buy rc and packs

[barren plank]

True

[woven haven]

CN is also like
depending on your region
20-50% cheaper than glb

sooooooooooooooooooo

[livid lark]

it's way mroe expensive everywhere else to get the same invest

[woven haven]

full sss+ on CN never has to even direct convert

[livid lark]

i dont think pgr was made for the general gacha gamer population lmao

[barren plank]

Ig that's why the investment minimums in CN are also way higher than the rest of the servers

[woven haven]

that’s how absolutely loaded they are

[quartz dove]

I mean old unit is on chopping block in cn rn too so if u can stomatch the early pgr gameplay i can see why people want to move there

[livid lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/933274148556402698.gif

[ashen edge]

bilibili sometimes has rc discount coupon also

[woven haven]

^

[steady otter]

Hi chat, good morning

[ashen edge]

you can buy 648rc pack with half price

[woven haven]

-30% discount sometimes for rc topup

[barren plank]

Windlao

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/phoebe-wuthering-waves-phoebe-pog-phoebe-phoebe-wuwa-gif-8042397741586133757

[subtle zinc]

but theres no reason to buy rc directly anymore right

thats just for players catching up

[woven haven]

hello bambifker how goes prep for selena patch tomorrow

[quartz dove]

Typical gacha company hating non maindland audience

[subtle zinc]

or are their packs also cheaper RC to BC

[quartz dove]

[livid lark]

this

[steady otter]

im on fate 50 pulls
guess what, im going to 95 again like luna in global

[ashen edge]

you can also maintain sss account with just full monthly + full bp and a few pack

[woven haven]

this

• cheaper rc price
• discounts every so often

[ashen edge]

the income is just so insane

[woven haven]

As a former cn spender i can say like
$40-50 usd a month is probably enough to maintain full sss?

[ashen edge]

[woven haven]

and like r2/r3 everyone

[ashen edge]

cn privilege

[woven haven]

that’s the insane difference

[livid lark]

aww hell nah

[frozen creek]

[raw swift]

Starraail is very good right? I've prepared her harmony mats, should i?

[livid lark]

ok that's kinda dog 😦

[frozen creek]

at least we dont have to competer against cn

[livid lark]

dont skip units before startrail

[frozen creek]

[woven haven]

that’s without considering the uh

triple/double no free S ranks tho so

[grand jay]

Yes

[woven haven]

yeah current cn is kinda ass

[quartz dove]

Thats like quarter of my spending

[grand jay]

Don't skip any S ranks though

[quartz dove]

[raw swift]

Mm?

[grand jay]

I can vouch

Current CN sucks donkey balls

[prime sigil]

why do all these new limited time bosses always break teh camera

[woven haven]

lightning main dps
ion best tank
burn tank + enabler

she’s triple meta for the long foreseeable future

[grand jay]

4 S ranks

[livid lark]

im just saying you should absolutely get nanaknight
just don't skip any limited s ranks between now and then

[grand jay]

Before anyone asks Lilith is fake f2p

SSS required for on field presence

[raw swift]

Alright thanks a lot

[ashen edge]

doesnt matter, its still something left while glb is def af

[woven haven]

nah

Its more like

[foggy ridge]

im actually really proud cuz im close to im assuming 2, maybe 3 sss gamers

[quartz dove]

Like almost every #📨・meta-help resident

[nova forum]

Look at this goddamn whel

[raw swift]

i never and Sure will, thanks a lot

[raw swift]

Thanks

[cold walrus]

im glad i play on glb. i can onetap in wz and my place in leaderboard doesn't change significantly

[barren plank]

No?

[grand jay]

For the health of the game they need to make Jetavie an A rank

[barren plank]

Lilith dmg > Lamia at same invest

[grand jay]

[woven haven]

lilith is fine at ss0
her ranks don’t have qol other than qte reset at sss
its all dmg
its a lot of dmg tho

[grand jay]

I've been slacking

[woven haven]

And she is voucherable so

[barren plank]

Just at SSS Lilith steers way ahead

[frozen creek]

skip

[nova forum]

Lilith will be in dorm shop right?

[barren plank]

But there's still a noticable diff at lower ranks

[woven haven]

free sig + free cub works decently well in lilith’s favour

[foggy ridge]

we are about to get an insanely broken tank if thats the case

[barren plank]

No she will have a special free banner

[nova forum]

[livid lark]

honestly tho, I do agree with Fel and Aether on the healthier competition on CN

reminds me when I was raiding on FFXIV where there was basically no one to do the hardest raid content if you didn't know anyone else

[nova forum]

Wtf

[foggy ridge]

i have a feeling kuro is gonna adjust new dark tank at ss to pull ahead of sss lilith

[grand jay]

She's the cheapest non f2p S rank to put it simply

Can be gotten entirely f2p

[raw swift]

Hi, any of the upcoming units have SS3 or SSS recommendation? Ability wise

[grand jay]

Ranks will require some of your pulls unfort

[prime sigil]

do i run luna oblivion in fire wz?

[barren plank]

New dark tank is insanely due but fire amp is more likely first tbh

[livid lark]

hanying for ss3 for sure
any of the upcoming tanks at sss

[foggy ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/soobfad-druski-gif-25646977

[livid lark]

wont work
you'll get damage penalty

[nova forum]

Is she on voucher shop tho

[barren plank]

Yes

[prime sigil]

dang no wonder i hit like a wet noodle

[nova forum]

Fcking dumb system

[foggy ridge]

unless u have a really crappy fire team then yeah its not gonna feel good

[nova forum]

Where my Lilith on dorm

[acoustic wraith]

How do I get DFM ending 2? I already got the other endings and I’m using the guide and still can’t get it helpp

[nova forum]

[split sail]

oh boy another crapi?

[grand jay]

More or less yeah

Her situation is better

[livid lark]

think of void as just another element like the other 4 (minus physical)

[foggy ridge]

the more i play dark, the more in really starting to hate crappi

[raw swift]

I am afraid i cannot afford Starrail to SSS, SS3 is probably the most possible chance i can do due to my lack of bc because lamia background.

[foggy ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-hahaha-gif-22505124

[grand jay]

Base S = Crapri SSS rank passives

[turbid bridge]

Her special banner is better than her being in dorm shop though

[livid lark]

thats up to you lol

[woven haven]

no
ss0 + sig + cub is free and its playable and doesn’t change at sss
sss just has better synergy with current dark team

[livid lark]

you decide how much you want to invest into your units

[grand jay]

And she's slightly ahead in dps vs Lamia

[nova forum]

It's better if free + dorm

[raw swift]

Mm? SS3 will baad for starrail, yes?

[distant wren]

how's ss0 lilith vs ss0 lamia?

[grand jay]

Relative to other releases she's underwhelming to say the least

[nova forum]

I was talking free + dorm

[split sail]

is 3s wata still better than upcoming tanks at ss3?

[foggy ridge]

like genuinely id rather make crappi a qte bot and deal with the daren downtime instead of swapping to her

[nova forum]

[turbid bridge]

Literally no unit is free + dorm

[nova forum]

Cw

[woven haven]

its good
not as good as other ss3s but still one of the much better ones to pick if you like her

[livid lark]

uh...
hanying and startrail are kinda up there

[dapper skiff]

No??????

[split sail]

at ss0 vs ss0?

[dapper skiff]

Where did u even got that???

[raw swift]

Alr thanks

[grand jay]

Yes on dps set

[cold walrus]

isn't she meta in 3 teams

[foggy ridge]

probably comparing ss3 to sss

[raw swift]

Thanks

[raw swift]

Thanks

[woven haven]

sure
but sss startrail and hanying are equally if not even crazier than sss wata because their ranks affect affix while wata has none

[turbid bridge]

That’s voucher not dorm

[sand laurel]

male debuff fr

[dapper skiff]

How much of a whel you are to think ss3 sig cub and potentially resos is bad

😭

[grand jay]

My goat Wanshi more valuable

[livid lark]

[grand jay]

Required for Glacio

[split sail]

tis unfortunate but no longer spending and used up my selector on sss wata

[foggy ridge]

sounds good to me cuz im definitely sssing nanaknight and fight imaginary shadow people in wz cuz everyone will quit at that point 😭

[woven haven]

good

[woven haven]

i mean still good
lucia really loves sss wata

[split sail]

if i knew about hanying earlier that would've been nice but also phys tank useless for void right

[foggy ridge]

idk lmao amy here doesnt know if she is able to get sss cuz of something else thats what i assumed

[woven haven]

[raw swift]

Sorry, i am just planning to recover my bc lost and recondition my from lamia background attempts recently

[livid lark]

are you f2p

[woven haven]

its one thing to compare their sss but having even one tank sss is a huge score increase for any team

[distant wren]

ss3 nanaknight is the same thing as ss3 feral but for burn right? so we can't know how much impact it'll have until burn content is out

[ebon adder]

i keep dying due to berserk effect in cr against trailblazer, what should i do?

[woven haven]

ya

lots of dmg increase
10% shred
burn rot half time needed

[vale raft]

Nanami: Startrail

Skill - SSS

Blazing Meteor

Level 1 - Unlocked at SS3

Resistance Reduction effects of Turbulence Interference and Scorching Invasion increase by 10%. Base DMG of Starfall Collapse increases by 100%. Base DMG of Burning Breakaway increases by 60%. Searing Buzzsaw's rate of applying Combustibility points increases by 100%.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SSS

Resistance Reduction effects of Turbulence Interference and Scorching Invasion increase by 10%. For every 75 Exceed Points consumed by Starfall Collapse, increases the Base DMG of the next Gigabyte Star Sunder by 25%; stacks are cleared upon dismantling the Shield Axe. For every 5 Combustible stacks applied to the target, increases the Base DMG of Heavenly Star Piercer: Burn by 16%. Upon entering the battlefield, the first Big Bang Victory! cast will generate 100 Astra Gauge, and the first 4th-hit lightstream will restore an extra 16 Signature Energy. Reduces the swap cooldown of all members in the team by 3s; this does not stack with other effects of the same type.

[raw swift]

I'm sorry i can't tell about that

[grand jay]

Low key I think Vera might either replace Lamia or Liv

[sand laurel]

hes got the Aethervoid PTSD
call the ambalamb

[split sail]

yea i'll have to be happy enough with 2 teams rather than 3-4 with nana i guess

[grand jay]

Liv is more likely

[distant wren]

nah, too soon for lamia

[grand jay]

Vera should be March

[turbid bridge]

No pls, dark tank first

[distant wren]

i think march is an A rank, then Vera in april

[split sail]

lamia instead of scire??

[grand jay]

Which might be ample time for Lamia to hit the hay

[grand jay]

Von Negut trust

[livid lark]

if you're f2p then it's not wise to buy expensive skins at the expense of your account progress

idk why people are so scared to reveal they're a spender

[distant wren]

yeah idk, i still think daren will retire first when it comes to dark

[grand jay]

True

Liv is still dirt old

[livid lark]

guys is it taboo to mention you're a spender for any reason

[grand jay]

She's seen better days

[woven haven]

my dear

lightning burn attacker

[trail solstice]

What should I build? Currently have 100% standard also there are free selector event

[meager iris]

watch uncle get replaced before liv

[woven haven]

[raw swift]

Thanks a lot

[grand jay]

YOURE COOKING

[foggy ridge]

enviosity gon bust down your door and talk sht about u spending on a game and he being the only thing that should be praised cuz hes f2p

[dapper skiff]

What is you fire team looks like

[woven haven]

f2p pride people are a cancer on this earth

[grand jay]

Low key though i want Noan to be that instead

[distant wren]

i just hope she's not trueslash or umbra
so i don't have to invest more in cw or hanying

[trail solstice]

Completed

[dapper skiff]

I see

[livid lark]

i really dont understand that mentality

[grand jay]

Kamui lightning umbra amp

[livid lark]

what does it gain you to keep your paying status quiet or your to flaunt f2p status

[trail solstice]

Actually can get free vera + feral, or choose dark Karen?

[foggy ridge]

speaking of liv, my god the leap actually saved fire for me. finally no more stupid wet noodle damage downtime 😭

[livid lark]

all it means is that you're comparing with a different group of people

[dapper skiff]

Getting scire to replace teneb form the 100% standard would be a good idea

You can use these order in terms of team investment:

Fire > ice > dark > physical > lightning

[grand jay]

Dark Karen

[foggy ridge]

if u spend, ur subhuman filth

[distant wren]

yeah it's weird, probably a bit insecure of their interests

[grand jay]

Vera has lost all her value

[meager iris]

if you don't, you don't exist

[livid lark]

thats very likely the case lol

[dapper skiff]

Selector has very limited options

Garnet could be an option

But considering sync, idk if that's gonna be worth it or nah

[meager iris]

they didn't want to include cw for a reason

[split sail]

scire is still meta

[dapper skiff]

Compared to like ss3 balter or ss3 scire even, if you have her signature weapon

[meager iris]

no one would even ask who to get everyone will get her

[grand jay]

Garnet gets replaced far sooner

[trail solstice]

So choose dark Karen in standard+ get another Karen on free selector event? Is ss enough? Iam afraid if Karen will be replaced quickly in future since she is old

[grand jay]

Lightning content is practically dead until Nanaknight so you might as well leave her until then

[dapper skiff]

Get Karen from standard

Buh I'm not quite sure myself for the free S rank selector from the event

[rose yew]

why not scire from voucher

[dapper skiff]

Getting Karen dupe isn't a bad idea if you do have her signature weapon

[raw swift]

I can't check the website right now, Ishmael is the newest even in PGR CN , yes?

[split sail]

save the free selector for SS3 Hanying i think?

[dapper skiff]

No

[river nymph]

[dapper skiff]

That's true

[foggy ridge]

but in seriousness i feel its cause of the predatory nature of gacha games in general. if you spend on the gacha game in question, i have a feeling some f2ps have the mentality of thinking "haha they spent on a gacha game. they should feel stupid for falling for their trap and having to spend to ""get better"" " or something

[trail solstice]

Scire S>teneb S?

[split sail]

Selena 3.0

[raw swift]

It's already there?

[dapper skiff]

You can get scire from the free selector and keep standard selector for solacetune dupe

@trail solstice

[woven haven]

by far

[foggy ridge]

but i think that goes for any p2w game. its just more prominent on gacha games cuz its a bigger game genre

[dapper skiff]

Ss3 solacetune is like one of the best ss3 upgrade in the game rn

[trail solstice]

What are future hanying doing? I already have Alisa ss3

[foggy ridge]

[dapper skiff]

Main dps for physical content

Is just as strong as current epitaph

As fire tank

[trail solstice]

She is amp right?

[dapper skiff]

A tank

[subtle zinc]

no one really cares about what other people spend or do not spend

[dapper skiff]

S hanying is a new physical tank

[raw swift]

Sorry, i misunderstood something, thanks a lot @split sail

[trail solstice]

What so Rosetta will be replaced soon

[grand jay]

Yes

[dapper skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/hanying-pgr-pgr-hanying-hanying-pgr-ult-gif-9635544102985002506

This

[grand jay]

Next glb patch

[dapper skiff]

Is hanying solacetune

[dapper skiff]

Basically
Yes

She's almost 3 years old by this point

[woven haven]

and balter loses main dps spot

[grand jay]

Rosetta has some use in super cope teams

[dapper skiff]

Surprised she even survived this long

[foggy ridge]

just a hunch. theres 8 billion people on this planet and some of them think elon musk accidentally did the n**i salute

[grand jay]

Balter is kicked off Phys team next CN patch

Selena Phys dps

[split sail]

oh i guess i will have resos for a little while longer when i reso replaced tanks' sigs to new units

[vague nebula]

yeah and 29 days till the update

[dapper skiff]

Quite based tho

[subtle zinc]

HUH im confused lol

[trail solstice]

Do scire already have replace in current cn content?

[dapper skiff]

Yes but also no

[livid lark]

not yet

[foggy ridge]

did you not see it yet?

[livid lark]

as a dark tank definitely no

not sure about ion

[split sail]

"accidentally" the cope is insane from those ppl

[dapper skiff]

What you need to know is, scire is still relevant even in current CN patch with average investment

[subtle zinc]

No one cares about whales unless they loose to them or if they beat them via skill issue whats that have to do with Elon being a psycho

[grand jay]

The man did it with so much conviction lmao

[vague nebula]

still has place in dark team

[foggy ridge]

even then, WHY TF WOULD HE DO THAT INSTEAD OF ANOTHER SALUTE LMAO

[distant wren]

yeah i understand the predatory nature, but like, if these f2ps hated it that much then just don't play
like they really think they're better for using something for free knowing others paid for them lol

[dapper skiff]

It was weirdly specific

[split sail]

coul'dve been a weeb and went nazi instead cuz he is one

[livid lark]

can't git gud in any other area so they try to feel good by flauting f2p status

[dapper skiff]

Ishmael can always turn to one tho

[foggy ridge]

dude had recoil on it and everything its was mad

[split sail]

AoT salute, YorHa salute

[subtle zinc]

Elon wakes up and does anything he wants he just like is lost at this point

[livid lark]

qte bot maybe?

lmao

[split sail]

looked like he has some weird mobility condition, idk how he made it look that awkward too

[livid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[dapper skiff]

[grand jay]

Turn in to Scire you mean

[subtle zinc]

my coworker sent me a vid and apparantly he did it twice like wtf

[dapper skiff]

The answer is
"Not sure"

[prime sigil]

speaking of S units, when does the S rank normal gacha gaurentee reset?

[rose yew]

it depends

[dapper skiff]

That's pretty much the farthest I could get for finding reasons for future scire relevancy

[hazy sandal]

Omg mom I’m on the discord TV

[dapper skiff]

livWhat

[foggy ridge]

before he did that, he said "my heart goes out to you all". he did hold his chest before the actual salute but that is no excuse to do ANYTHING else other than that

[raw swift]

Hey, Selena and Lilith come together to Global, i'm assuming?

[prime sigil]

this thing

[foggy ridge]

we dont know just yet

[river nymph]

[dapper skiff]

Are you sure that's not your doppelganger?

[foggy ridge]

kuro can merge how many patches they want so we dk if theyre gonna stick with the 3x or switch to 2x

[livid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-catstare-cat-stare-sus-catglare-cat-glare-gif-14942558849944709546

[hazy sandal]

[raw swift]

Thanks

[foggy ridge]

maybe even do both infrequently

[river nymph]

[foggy ridge]

hell, probably not at all and just do a regular patch

[dapper skiff]

livWhat

[split sail]

setsu what's going on here with the void mems, is ish the main dps or not for void when she drops? (at equal ss0 invest to oblivion)

or is the onslaught ish mems for when she's replacing an amp on some other team

[grand jay]

Imagine they do Hanying by herself lmao

Then do Wanshi, Lucia and Yata lol

[dapper skiff]

Global shafted saved

[foggy ridge]

id actually be pissed. like i need wanshi NOW i hate ice team rn

[dapper skiff]

If we're getting both hanying and wanshi

[flint igloo]

Guys I just started PGR yesterday, mind giving some tips?

[dapper skiff]

How does theme banner would work

[raw swift]

Ah about the issued playable jetavie ? Is this true?

[split sail]

always assume they'll do the dumbest thing possible

[livid lark]

yes

[dapper skiff]

Check pin for General beginner guide and other FAQs

[subtle zinc]

i think they just stagger the banner start dates

[grand jay]

Pull for Luna on the debut banner, Wata on the standard and then grind for Ayla Kaleido

[flint igloo]

Okay

[grand jay]

Don't skip any S ranks in the future

[flint igloo]

When is luna arriving

[split sail]

select it? they're gonna have to figure it out regardless for all the double s patches coming

[grand jay]

She should be out now

Check the yellow ticket banner

[turbid bridge]

I think Kimika shared JP server screenshot of Wanshi and Lucia being 100% selections in themed banner

[flint igloo]

The red girl with some circular weapon?

[grand jay]

Yes

[flint igloo]

Care explaining the gacha of pgr?

[subtle zinc]

we should know in a weewk based on what KR gets

[split sail]

read the guide dude

[grand jay]

Debut banners are guaranteed

[flint igloo]

Okk

[subtle zinc]

but surely its both tanks

[grand jay]

You pull an S rank it's them no 50/50

[rose yew]

we have fate banner that has triple the rates

[grand jay]

60 pity on normal debut

[flint igloo]

I see

[thorn bluff]

Cn still lacking 1 saving patch right? With the yata(free)-nanami, ishmael-lilith(free), then it should have been A rank then selena afterthat just for the saving patch?

[grand jay]

F2ps should under no circumstances pull on fate

Way too much pity to deal with

Pull on normal debut

[raw swift]

Ishmael and lilith actually come together instead of Lilith and selena?

[grand jay]

New players should then also spend all and any blue ticket banners on the standard banner

The standard banner comes with a 1 time target

Watanabe Epitaph will be that target if you want a meta team asap

[thorn bluff]

No i mean its usually 1 saving patch then 1 S rank after that since f2p will need 2 patch to get enough for 1 s rank

[raw swift]

I see, thanks

[flint igloo]

Is it good that I am pulling for her?

[grand jay]

After that you grind out the dorm dispatch mode to get enough fragments for Ayla Kaleido

[split sail]

CN seems to be giving up on the concept of saving patches

[grand jay]

Ehhhh

[rose yew]

first ten daily pull on fate banner is discounted at 250 bc per pull

[grand jay]

I'd personally advise against it

[flint igloo]

From the standard selector

[livid lark]

epitaph

[flint igloo]

I liked the design

[grand jay]

She's still meta yes but Watanabe epitaph will be far more beneficial

[jagged fable]

im kinda interested in lamia lost lullaby. is she good for starter player?

[rose yew]

no more a rank patches I hope

[grand jay]

If you're pulling for looks I can't stop you

[livid lark]

we speak from a meta perspective here which is much more crucial in this game

[flint igloo]

Okay

[grand jay]

Don't jinx it PLEASE

I need more A ranks for my sanity

[livid lark]

you can do you of course but like just dont be surprised when you struggle to do content

[flint igloo]

Oo

Guess I will check on her later then

If she is a standard she'll eventually come

[livid lark]

in other gacha games it's fine to skip and pull on whatever you want because the content allows for it

[flint igloo]

Will prefer to start strong

[grand jay]

Pgr is a collection check yea

[livid lark]

here in PGR skipping or doing it however you like is not exactly a good recommendation

[dapper skiff]

[tranquil flare]

I'm thinking of doing bosses in practice but only using 2 characters

[grand jay]

But given your current situation you're just better off getting Watanabe from the standard banner

[tranquil flare]

Which two would you use for boss rush challenge

[flint igloo]

Okay

[rose yew]

brs and cw

[flint igloo]

Luna and watanbe, I just completed the story till 1-8

[grand jay]

You get a strong team in Luna, Watanabe and Ayla

The latter 2 will also benefit your Fire and Ice teams in the long run

[distant wren]

yeah you can freely change between the 2

[flint igloo]

I see

[split sail]

tbh in the short run too

[turbid bridge]

But still 1 week gap release ya?

[grand jay]

Ice will see the addition of Wanshi who's the ice tank and is free while Fire will see Lucia who is the main fire dps

[tranquil flare]

You would use them two for boss challenge

[distant wren]

yeah wanshi released 1 week after

[tranquil flare]

Interesting

[turbid bridge]

Cringe

[tranquil flare]

My brs is only ss

[flint igloo]

What is tower of adversity called in pgr terms, I am coming from wuwa so

[distant wren]

they didn't even let you buy him in dorm or voucher before lmao

[grand jay]

Pain Cage

[flint igloo]

Ok

[rose yew]

[split sail]

if you're not fighting emperor in PPC (pain cage), kaleido is a pretty servicable main dps for ice, and wata is main dps for fire for another few patches

[grand jay]

Similar in principle but team requirements are stricter

[rose yew]

mine is 3s so my rotation is more flexible

[turbid bridge]

Ye that’s fair, otherwise you’d have to splurge vouchers on him day 1

[flint igloo]

Ohh

[hazy sandal]

Omg you are all right

[grand jay]

One boss will be heavily geared towards one team

[hazy sandal]

She is
Versatile

[zenith kernel]

omg Dalao gaming

[hazy sandal]

[grand jay]

Each character has 3 energy

No more no less

Each level consumes 1

[flint igloo]

Hmm

[thorn elbow]

i'll pick empy then, my scire is ss3 anyway

[tranquil flare]

I'm gonna try Luna and wata

See how far I can get lol

[grand jay]

You ideally have 3 teams to cover each series of fights

[split sail]

is it void content = Ish main dps on gen set with Oblivion sup? and then other content ish sup? but not clear on the difference between ish's PPC/Onslaught and Onslaught sets

[livid lark]

i'll give you an example of what your experience with older units that have aspects you like will be like

around september last year or maybe even a bit further before that I pulled from the standard banner just to see what s rank i would be getting

I pulled a character who many players like (and appearance wise she looks good as well) but she was a year 1 character when the game was already in its 4th year and for the current content at the time she wouldn't even be able to do i would say 10% of what's required to clear with ease

[split sail]

say alpha without saying alpha

[livid lark]

lol you guessed alr

[grand jay]

I.e. Fire for Moon Devourer
Dark for Lilith
Ice for Madeira

[flint igloo]

Okk

[hazy sandal]

Ah

[grand jay]

Imo Ishmael narrowly beats out Luna

Dependent on invest

[crystal moss]

Do I need Ayla's sig or can I just use her 5 star wep?

[livid lark]

if I got her within the 1st year of course I would appreciate getting her but in this game at least, if the unit is no longer meta they effectively become fun toys at most rather than being helpful for your account

[tranquil flare]

I'm gonna put everyone on lvl 5 health lvl 4 attack see how far I can get with only wata and luna

[hazy sandal]

The third conv mem set is void dual dps set

And I should add second one could be used in warzone too

[flint igloo]

I see, how do you a build a character here?

[grand jay]

Builds are very cut and dry

[hazy sandal]

• I am adding Luna set one more for Lilith solo dark warzone run

[livid lark]

have you played honkai impact 3rd before?

[split sail]

oh cool, so one of them on gen and the other on conv elem as a kinda "tank" subdps like Wata or Wanshi? and whoever is weaker gets put on the elem set

[livid lark]

or any other gacha game rather

[zenith kernel]

@mighty tusk
Brick
Targeting isn't.... targeting
Otherwise 2.53m me thinks
Emp SSS def 2.7m+

[dapper skiff]

Motivation

[flint igloo]

No, the first gacha I played properly is wuwa (reached UL 80), other didn't get me interested so I thought I would try out pgr and I am getting interested

[grand jay]

Unlike Wuwa which could have some freedom like XLY using lingering tunes vs electro set, most recent characters will use their signature 4 piece memory set and 2 pieces of an accompanying set

[wise bloom]

What's the memory set for kaleido support for luna team?

[flint igloo]

Okay

[livid lark]

alright
think of the echoes that you farm in wuwa as the memories that you get in this game
the only difference is that here the memory sets you farm are 100%

[zenith kernel]

4dv 2 guin 2 eins

[hazy sandal]

Whoever is weaker holds the conv ele mems.

[flint igloo]

Okay

[hazy sandal]

https://youtu.be/pHI-C0lnnVU?si=W95Zjr8z9vAN7oRk

[distant wren]

shakes?

[grand jay]

On top of that each memory has 2 slots for sub stats which are fixed in value

[dapper skiff]

1 more wata and 2 more Empy reso is equal to 200k score

[zenith kernel]

Yep

[livid lark]

you do have rng with memory resonances but it's not as bad and way more manageable here compared to echo substat rolling

[distant wren]

nice

[wise bloom]

Alright thanks

[dapper skiff]

8% shred is too good

[flint igloo]

I see

[zenith kernel]

Whel😔

[grand jay]

They can be rolled but they can also be fully selected

[dapper skiff]

Nuh uh

[split sail]

gotcha, thanks a lot for the clarification!

[dapper skiff]

Phat whel with R2 wata

[livid lark]

whereas wuwa substat rolling is 100% rng

[flint igloo]

Damn

[dapper skiff]

Me poor

Only r1

[zenith kernel]

Like i said, losing dlt isn't as big as losing 8% shred
The shred is mandatory

[livid lark]

and farming dupe memories for more rolling isn't hard either

[dapper skiff]

[livid lark]

as long as you have stamina you can keep farming

[flint igloo]

I see, so I wouldn't be struggling much with rng and builds here

[livid lark]

yup

[zenith kernel]

No me

[dapper skiff]

Nuh uh

[grand jay]

So you can fully pick red orb +1 and ult +1 as sub stats for example

[livid lark]

weapons are a bit more crucial in this game tho

[dapper skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1173925642102902864.gif

[flint igloo]

Ok

[grand jay]

Which would be Watanabe's preferred substats

[zenith kernel]

Need to do emperor
But waiting for Windlao's vid
Off to do Red Liv

[flint igloo]

I always take the sigs of the given characters

[grand jay]

Weapons are just as heavily favoured as they are in Wuwa

[zenith kernel]

[grand jay]

Arguably even more so

[ashen edge]

https://youtu.be/ZT3-50HdcD0?si=eIMQmkWHZVu94Ikp

[flint igloo]

Yea I noticed when I skipped jiyan's weapon for getting yinlin, thought got it in rerun 😭

[livid lark]

important rule of thumb to go by is ensure you have enough to pull characters from the debut banner on release before deciding to pull for weapons

[grand jay]

They can actively change the feel of a character altogether

[livid lark]

weapon banner never goes away

[zenith kernel]

I just realized, i should have used 21 for void last time
Even with only 1r she buffs more than Emp since Emp's 10% is locked behind SSS
So it's a 2% diff

[livid lark]

only limited banner is the themed event banner or debut banner as we call it here

[split sail]

you'll run out of pull currency if you do this without spending (unless you get really lucky all the time ofc)

[flint igloo]

Okay

[grand jay]

Moreover weapon dupes can also change a character's feel

[zenith kernel]

Oh
Acaxi lao already uploaded
I forgot to open yt when I woke up😔

[grand jay]

And also help do more damage

[livid lark]

i would 100% recommend getting weapons if you can afford but otherwise delay it until you have enough

[grand jay]

On top of that they can grant 2 extra memory set bonuses

[livid lark]

you can plan ahead your pulls

[flint igloo]

Ok

Thanks

[hazy sandal]

🔞

[grand jay]

Weapons are perm at least so there's no rush in pulling them which is cool

[flint igloo]

Nicee

[livid lark]

pets are also the same

you get to decide how much you want to invest in your units but having good teams in this game will set you apart from a lot of other players

most casual players decide to skip a lot

those players are the ones who struggle in a lot of the endgame content

[flint igloo]

I seee

[livid lark]

i speak from experience when i say skipping or missing a unit isn't fun

it's what i had to go through yesterday

[flint igloo]

😭✋🏻

[split sail]

right now is also the most expensive time to "keep up" as we have 3x patches during the length of one regular one right now, with 3x the spend needed to "keep up" on weps and pets

[livid lark]

yea there is that as well tho

[flint igloo]

Yes I heard about that, when will they catchup with CN?

[split sail]

~10 months

[livid lark]

they said by the end of 2025

[flint igloo]

I see

Many opportunities but rough

[livid lark]

once this sync period ends if you're still active in this game, that would be the time i would recommend spending again if you want

[abstract heron]

uhm, where's the ppc rotation sheet?

[split sail]

links

[livid lark]

type /links

[split sail]

oh new bot right

[vale raft]

Useful Links

<:kuro:1290659729600937984> Officials

Website
Youtube
BiliBili

<:info:1290659678346285248> Wikis

Gray Ravens
Bili Wiki

:book: Lore

Huaxu Stories

:link: Community Links

Huaxu
Zexous' Meta Spreadsheet
Rexlent Beginner YT Playlist
Setsu's Harmo Spreadsheet v2

:calendar_spiral: Planning

BC Planner
PGR Packs

<:exppc:1290659786500739192> Phantom Pain Cage

SS Ultimate
SSS Ultimate
S+ Ultimate
Advanced PPC Spreadsheet
PPC Boss Rotations

<:hero_wz:1290664158240440331> Warzone

Advanced Warzone Tips

:file_cabinet: Outdated Resources

Character 'Tier List by Doomy'
Comprehensive Character Builds
Resource Calculator
Coatings Acquisition

[livid lark]

no not new bot

just a stupid discord policy which prevents the > prefix from working

[flint igloo]

I haven't missed a daily of wuwa since I started so I don't think I will leave if I get interested

[livid lark]

slash commands were always there

[livid lark]

pgr is a bit more involved especially if you like the endgame stuff

[flint igloo]

Ooo

[mighty tusk]

[livid lark]

it's just that the competitive scene has... been reduced to a husk

[split sail]

there is the minor concern (as hinted with all our names) that PGR global will go end of service due to whales quitting in protest over the sped up patches and lack of compensation

[livid lark]

but if you dont mind maintaining your performance here, you'll do quite well

yea there's that as well

[abstract heron]

next rot is tifa, lamia and ballard

[split sail]

ofc Kuro games has plenty of money from PGR CN and WuWa so they can afford to keep PGR Global running

[vague nebula]

[split sail]

but hard to say if they'll consider it profitable enough

[flint igloo]

So pgr global will discontinue?

[livid lark]

maybe the wuwa profit will balance out the loss of profit from global kekw

[livid lark]

speculation only

[vague nebula]

thats not how it works

[flint igloo]

That's sad

[livid lark]

there's no direct confirmation that pgr global will close

i mean the competitive scene is kinda dedge lol

[flint igloo]

That sucks

[livid lark]

if you just remotely try you can already retain high positions in the competitive events

there's a good part to this tho

meaning that getting all the rewards isn't hard

and you can build all your units easily

[flint igloo]

I see

[livid lark]

whereas on CN not being competitive wont get you all the rewards to build your account

so you play and you decide on what's better for you

[flint igloo]

Damn

I hope it won't discontinue

[livid lark]

being a global player is a double edged sword in a sense

easier to get all rewards but you're surrounded by people with low comprehension ability

oh yea and we dont read on global as well

(this is a meme btw)

[flint igloo]

What??

[floral plover]

Shafted packs too

[livid lark]

it's a joke lol

[flint igloo]

Okay

[livid lark]

but really, a lot of global players don't like to read even when the answer is in front of their eyes

they prefer to ask

then when you ask them why they didnt they just read they'll say its too hard

[flint igloo]

What's this end of service gang, like what message do you try to convey

[split sail]

tbf if we're talking in game skill descriptions those are stupidly formatted

[livid lark]

that's fair

[livid lark]

we memeing

[distant wren]

a tale as old as time

[pine slate]

[split sail]

personally i'm upset and disappointed at kuro and am no longer spending any money on this game because of it. half hoping they fail because that's the only way companies will learn not to screw up like this.

[flint igloo]

😔

[livid lark]

CN gacha gaming company stuff

[crimson hill]

Give 0 f about global xD

[livid lark]

can't be bothered to invest into proper translation + proofreading efforts

[mighty tusk]

Nooooo

That's it boys, we're killing her all over again

[livid lark]

wdym
there was handholding at the end of that trailer

[flint igloo]

So what's the % chance of pgr global getting shut down and when will it actually

[raw swift]

Is Lamia good

[livid lark]

unsure
dont think too hard about it
just enjoy the game as it is now

thats what we're doing rn

[livid lark]

if you're asking whether she's needed, then yes at least for dark ppc and warzone still

just dont pull from arrival

[tardy stump]

which construct i should give weapon resonance to guys?

[livid lark]

how's your wata

[tardy stump]

wata no signature weap

[flint igloo]

Who is wata

[ashen edge]

he is not in here

[flint igloo]

That's the arrival

[tardy stump]

banana!

[livid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/watanabe-pgr-pgr-watanabe-watanabe-pgr-epitaph-gif-9185573287474231919

[ashen edge]

he in standard banner not in arrival

[livid lark]

highly advised not to pull from that banner at any time

pity + rates on arrival + fate are not good for pgr's standards

[flint igloo]

This

[livid lark]

yes thats correct

[flint igloo]

Ok

[ashen edge]

yes

[tardy stump]

ok now i have 3 hanying's fans

nice

[flint igloo]

Hanying for the A would be fine right?

[livid lark]

a ranks are easy to get
just dont use black cards or yellow tickets on her

[flint igloo]

Ok

[tardy stump]

guess i can't have wata uncle signature

[livid lark]

you'll eventually get all a ranks over time

[tardy stump]

gotta use my fans for luna's weap reso

[livid lark]

and by that time you probably wont even need them since you'll have s ranks to cover those spots which you're lacking units in already

[flint igloo]

Shall I pull on this?

[livid lark]

thats the weapon banner i mentioned earlier to pull only if you have enough BC

[flint igloo]

Okk

[livid lark]

there's no guarantee pity on weapons until the next sync patch or after

[flint igloo]

Ok

[livid lark]

rn if you offrate consecutively it'll keep going until you run out of BC

[tardy stump]

like me

[livid lark]

oh yea there we go

[tardy stump]

bro look at this

[civic cloud]

Same

[livid lark]

exhibit A is right here

[ashen edge]

[civic cloud]

Ohh f

[livid lark]

3 offrates right?

[tardy stump]

3

[livid lark]

LMAO

[tardy stump]

at the same banner

[livid lark]

oof

[tardy stump]

same weap

[livid lark]

within 30 or all hard pity?

[tardy stump]

uncle bad bad

[tardy stump]

both

[livid lark]

90?

[tardy stump]

yeah

[livid lark]

ouch

5 free resos

[tardy stump]

i frking love this game

[civic cloud]

My friend who started pgr left just because of this after loosing at the steak of 4

[tardy stump]

i can have all but not his dongy weap

[turbid bridge]

At this point just wait for weapon calibration on Pyroath patch wtf is that rate

[tardy stump]

pure evil

[remote pier]

Omg big fan

[civic cloud]

80/20 be messing with people

[distant wren]

honestly if you pulled like 50-60 with 3 offrates then might as well just scrap those 3 lmao

[civic cloud]

The world where even 20% can heck with people

[tardy stump]

[silver shard]

Weapon calibration?

[livid lark]

the continuous offrate mechanic will end on lucia patch

whenever that arrives for us

[tardy stump]

bruh, i forgor

ok brb gonna scrap all of fans

[turbid bridge]

Same like arrival calibration, if you offrate the 80/20 then next 6* weapon you get will 100% be the one you selected

[silver shard]

Oh nice so guaranteed on sigs all the time now?

[flint igloo]

I should only pull on the first 2 banners or only the 1st one?

[tardy stump]

FATE

[turbid bridge]

No no, guaranteed only if you offrate the previous draw

[livid lark]

only the first one at any time

[tardy stump]

BELIEVE IN FATE

[normal bluff]

NEVER TOUCH FATE..

[flint igloo]

Ok

[normal bluff]

Unless you're an expert gambler that somehow always wins against the house

[livid lark]

if you pull on any banner that says the words fate or arrival you may get cucked by the game

[flint igloo]

Lmaooo

[distant wren]

1% chance 99% faith

[flint igloo]

Okkaayy

[livid lark]

cant even beat the house when you're not even in control of your cards dude

[turbid bridge]

That 99% faith converts to despair by 1% for every fate draw

[tardy stump]

GUYS HERE ME OUT:
if you pull and get him/her under 60 rolls, you're good to go

i am a fate abuser

[flint igloo]

So only the weapon selection, themed event and member target banner

[livid lark]

the gacha is basically you playing a game of blackjack and having to stand on the first deal

[distant wren]

real talk is it worth it to use fate if you go for sss?

[livid lark]

the member target banner with the blue tickets is a 1 time thing btw
the actual thing is just a standard banner for a ranks and you'll get a random s rank at 60 pity

but yea you're right

[woven haven]

avg sample size too low for sss
5 copies at least to be worth imo

[turbid bridge]

I mean I only have 5 months of gacha experience in this game, I’m no expert

[tardy stump]

BELIEVE IN YOUR FATE GUYS
THIS IS ALL BY BELIEVE IN FATE

[dreamy pelican]

fate's probabilty scales with how much you pull

but the number of times you need to pull for it to stand a chance to be worth is too ridiculous to be accounted for anyways

[livid lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1240599200618512426.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=selenayes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/861187568891461652/1318508334311276544/EOS.gif

[distant wren]

surely it'll come early for next copy

[dreamy pelican]

[distant wren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1174906710285090876.gif

[tardy stump]

Qu under 20, Luna under 20, WATA 60

[dreamy pelican]

praying for hanying at 100

[flint igloo]

Okayy

[dapper skiff]

Maen

I'm slacking ppc SO HARD

[livid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/gfl2-girls-frontline-suomi-crashing-out-lobotomy-gif-15495846285105638940

[silver shard]

Ahh, well better than what we got rn

[livid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/gfl-gfl2-suomi-gif-5927541470036042616

[tardy stump]

:D D:

[dreamy pelican]

cant slack if you dont do them at all

[crimson hill]

Migrate to GFL

[split sail]

I know its just mon and sss wata is strong, but smth feels very wrong getting 1st when these are my memories (with shred and dlt resos)

[dreamy pelican]

okay okay

i just need to pray that no one gets to 4 mil in my bracket, and i can get to legend

[livid lark]

i can afford to be f2p there can you believe that

[split sail]

Scuffed up my rots too trying to just see Empy leap in action

[chilly pewter]

How long would it take for a newbie to get 40 pulls in the beginner banner?

[crimson hill]

Yeah, I piloted some f2p account. It was alright

[dreamy pelican]

i could maybe get to 4 mil, but i suck at fire team rot

1.6 with sigless s5 hyperpiss

need to change rots a bit to make 2 mil

[livid lark]

just do all the beginner missions and you should be able to get enough within like 1-2 weeks

[ashen edge]

[livid lark]

if you play a lot it's more like 1 week

[chilly pewter]

Doesn't the game give you enough with first time clear rewards or something?

[tardy stump]

k im back with wata signature weap, so i should use my weap reso on wata weap first?

[dreamy pelican]

iirc they dont

but i might be wrong on that

[livid lark]

you dont pull on standard with black cards

[turbid bridge]

Yea at least R1

[livid lark]

black cards should be for the limited time banner

[dapper skiff]

Ppc?

[turbid bridge]

Although with void Epitaph really likes R2 if affordable

[dapper skiff]

Very tru

[split sail]

warzone, trash 1.5m score is still "first" right now

[turbid bridge]

What

[dapper skiff]

[dapper skiff]

Huh

Is that solo?

[dreamy pelican]

no, black cards should only be for gacha skins

[tardy stump]

on what, i can do R2 dw

[dapper skiff]

Whel

[split sail]

wrong mems, wrong reso, no atk stats leveled on mems, terrible rots focusing on empy cuz i wanted to see her leap and acciddnetllay swapped off wata before ulting once

[turbid bridge]

DLT and Diode shred

[dreamy pelican]

if you do r2, can you r1 every other character that needs r1?

[tardy stump]

nope

[livid lark]

my snow petals skin is crying because selena is on the way

[dreamy pelican]

dont r2 if you wont have enough for the other characters

[livid lark]

same with my ocean ripples skin because plume is already ded

[split sail]

more of a hyperreal+empy run than a wata run tbh

[dapper skiff]

At least your wantap wasn't something properly and later nearly impossible score to beat even when trying

[split sail]

had my fair share of those

[dreamy pelican]

ehhh you got your time using them

[split sail]

who needs mapping when 1st intuitive map does the best

[livid lark]

🫡

[dreamy pelican]

would it suprise you to know that i cant read mandarin properly

[tardy stump]

DLT done, what about other constructs

[livid lark]

it's basically a tombstone

[dreamy pelican]

i can speak, i know certain words, but i cant read yet

bc i despise reading sht and prefer to just talk in potonghua

[dreamy pelican]

[livid lark]

the ones in blue means "held strong for 3 years"
the ones in red mean "sacrifice for glory"

[livid lark]

being able to read gives you the ability to see stuff on bili tho

some of the bili memes are fire

[dreamy pelican]

give me 3 years and i can connect with the chinese shtposters

[livid lark]

honestly, just dump yourself on bili

you'll pick stuff up quickly

like this meme vid i found of ai pyroath commenting on selena

[dreamy pelican]

that doesnt sound half bad actually

[tardy stump]

ok, what about other constructs, i have luna, qu, alpha, lamia, all have their sig

[dreamy pelican]

PLEASE send

[livid lark]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1nF6rYxEVU/?spm_id_from=333.788.top_right_bar_window_custom_collection.content.click&vd_source=958c219766d4143fe7efe2394a1fa81a

[turbid bridge]

Luna, Qu and Lamia R1 is great for them

[tardy stump]

all DLT ?

[turbid bridge]

In Warzone yea

[glass pulsar]

Which memories good to grab here?

[ebon adder]

what about other content?

[livid lark]

will help in norman and clash reflection

dlt is always helpful in drawn out fights

[dapper skiff]

I literally just made this in the morning

• [Weapon Resonance Priority and Recommendations](#📨・meta-help message)

[turbid bridge]

PPC highly depends on whether you need extra orbs from DLT or you can kill in one rotation

[vale raft]

This character does not exist. Please try again.
You may be searching for a character with multiple frames as well.

[tardy stump]

great, ty

[vale raft]

Weapon Resonance Priority List - Luna: Oblivion

Main Priority List

1. Dead Line Timing
2. Glorious Afterglow
3. Matrix Lightning

[glass pulsar]

?

[ebon adder]

ty

[livid lark]

[ebon adder]

ty

[dreamy pelican]

i just discovered a gold mine of a LIFETIME

[livid lark]

depends on your need

[livid lark]

yea so start learning to read if you want to understand more

[turbid bridge]

Depends on what you need for your current character builds

[dreamy pelican]

this is like christopher columbus discovering america

[glass pulsar]

New player?

[dreamy pelican]

or crack to low income neighborhoods

[livid lark]

use the bot to search up the character build you want

[dapper skiff]

That was weirdly specific

But okay

[livid lark]

then buy the memories based on that

[glass pulsar]

What's the command

[vale raft]

Celica's Help Menu

I'm an informational bot for the game Punishing: Gray Raven

My prefix is: >
Use the dropdown to view a list of commands by category.
Use >help [command] for more information on a specific command.
Also note that slash commands do work on this bot and so if you would like to use those, please use the '/' prefix instead to see that menu. If you do not see slash commands appearing when hitting '/', make sure to restart your Discord client.

**Changelog**

- Added resonance command (21st Jan 2025)

[livid lark]

oh lol it should be /

not > since that doesnt work anymore

[dreamy pelican]

[vale raft]

Luna: Oblivion <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:annihilator:1285900128489701436><:void_element:1285900049909284864><:disorder:1288089672718876787>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set

Memories

4x Cleopatra
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

Cottie

[chilly pewter]

Just when I thought of quitting because it would take so long to farm those 40 pulls. I got this bad bich with 1 single

[livid lark]

if anyone asks why they should learn to read chinese and they like pgr i'll just tell them to watch that

i found even funnier stuff for wuwa

[dapper skiff]

*slap luna

_ _
This bad bith can deal a lot of dmg

[chilly pewter]

I was having fun with her trials. God gave me a sign to give this game a chance.

[dapper skiff]

The gambling must continue

[vale raft]

This character does not exist. Please try again.
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[glass pulsar]

What's the emo ninja cyborg name again

[dapper skiff]

Uhhhh

I have no paking idea who the hell is that

[livid lark]

wata?

hes not a ninja lol

[vale raft]

Watanabe: Epitaph <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:tank:1290614106520555571><:fire_element:1290613867365273630>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set

Memories

4x Alphonse
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Red Orb
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

Cottie

[dapper skiff]

Hasanabe

[glass pulsar]

Yea him

[dapper skiff]

Saddam Huseinabe

Idk

[vale raft]

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This character does not exist. Please try again.
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[dapper skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-anguish-despair-gif-13915908866750092639

[vale raft]

Ayla: Kaleido <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:amplifier:1290613387197415467><:ice_element:1290613933106925638>

Main Support Set

Usage

QTE Support Healer/Buffer

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Main post-Shukra QTE Support Set
Recommended for all ranks
Harmony Set (Requires Harmony on Signature 6 Weapon)*

Memories

4x Da Vinci
2x Samantha/Gloria/Lantern Festival: Reunion
2x Guinevere (Harmony)

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Class Passive

Watanabe: Epitaph <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:tank:1290614106520555571><:fire_element:1290613867365273630>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set

Memories

4x Alphonse
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Red Orb
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

Cottie

[distant wren]

"/build epitaph" lol

[vale raft]

Einsteina ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

QTE and 3-Ping skills reduce the target's corresponding Elemental Resistance by 15% for 8s. 10s cooldown.

4pc Set Bonus

When taking damage, releases an elemental aura, gaining 20% Elemental Resistance against all elements for 5s. Elemental DMG dealt increases by 15% when the aura is present. 8s cooldown.

ATK

132

CRIT

66

DEF

219

HP

1521

[glass pulsar]

Oh no koleda

[rose yew]

when can we hypertune 5 star mems

[livid lark]

its going to be tradition that whenever someone makes a typo on a frame ill add that to the nickname list

[raw swift]

Hey, is Kaleydo staying for long? Or there is an issued new amplifier coming?

[dapper skiff]

No

[raw swift]

Thanks

But No as if kaleydo not staying long?

[thorn creek]

so far only, cappricio is replaced in the future

other's not yet

[raw swift]

Ah oki thanks

[pulsar viper]

The goth skin that Luna will have in the future.. does it come with a background?

[thorn creek]

jetaive fire amp trust

[livid lark]

@dreamy pelican do you want the wuwa vids as well?

[thorn creek]

[raw swift]

Hm, should i do make Kaleydo SS anyways?

[thorn creek]

uhh at this point, kaleido is entirely qte bot

I don't think SS benefits qte bot build in any way

[vale raft]

Ayla: Kaleido

Skill - SS

Endless Creativity

Level 1 - Unlocked at S5

Casting Signature - Color Rendering will activate all available QTEs.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SS

Increases Extra DMG Bonus by 20% when the Signature - Painter's Realm is expanded. Gains 30 Signature Energy and 1 "Backup Paint" every time upon entering the battlefied.

[thorn creek]

yeah no benefit for qte bot

[vale raft]

Ayla: Kaleido <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:amplifier:1290613387197415467><:ice_element:1290613933106925638>

Main Support Set

Usage

QTE Support Healer/Buffer

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Main post-Shukra QTE Support Set
Recommended for all ranks
Harmony Set (Requires Harmony on Signature 6 Weapon)*

Memories

4x Da Vinci
2x Samantha/Gloria/Lantern Festival: Reunion
2x Guinevere (Harmony)

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Class Passive

[zenith kernel]

?????

I did not expect that to work

[thorn creek]

kev's waifu is also special

[vague nebula]

wangshi

[dapper skiff]

What's hero sea fluc again?

[raw swift]

Because at this point i have troubles with the emperor boss in ppc, It's somehow quite tanky

[amber nacelle]

Is there a recommended method of getting SSS Wanshi?

Like 1 pull + 50 Dorm (?) + 30 PPC + 40 Vouchers?

Or just get him from dorm to save on BC and SSS him through vouchers?

[ebon adder]

is stage affix for cr always the same or does it change? for example the trailblazer affix rn is berserk and i keep dying to it

[livid lark]

who are you running

[raw swift]

Qu, Kaleydo and Bambinata

[livid lark]

well also

[livid lark]

where's your tank

[vale raft]

Emperor

Weakness: Frost (Ice)

Zone Type: EXPPC

Start Time: 5.25s

Difficulty: Hell

HP: 19,000,000
Super Armor: 73,300
Extra Damage Reduction: 0.0%
Defence: 1,500
Phys Resist: 0.0%
Fire Resist: 20.0%
Light Resist: 20.0%
Ice Resist: 20.0%
Dark Resist: 20.0%

[livid lark]

19 mil hp

[turbid bridge]

F2p not recommended to pull for any copy of Wanshi, paid S ranks and signature weapons are priority

[livid lark]

omegalol

[turbid bridge]

It can change depending on stage

[ebon adder]

ty

[raw swift]

Chrome? He is S and Changyu is SS and both without signature weapons

[turbid bridge]

But yea trailblazer affix is permanently berserk for this cycle

[pine slate]

https://tenor.com/view/berserk-gif-5769121116284891944

[livid lark]

you dont need a sig for changyu tho

if you have no tank you deal no damage regardless of how strong your attacker is

[raw swift]

Oh really? And he is even good at SS?

[livid lark]

you can just chuck tank memos on him and use him as a qte bot

[vale raft]

Changyu: Qilin <:a_rank:1290613305416880169><:tank:1290614106520555571><:ice_element:1290613933106925638>

Main Tank Set

Usage

QTE Tank Support

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Used at all ranks
General tank set

Memories

4x Da Vinci
2x Einsteina

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Class Passive

Harmony Recommendation

None

[livid lark]

look
just this is enough

no sig required

[raw swift]

Alright, thanks

[livid lark]

whatever you do, never run without a tank in your team

there's no excuse since tanks are widely available now

if they have to become qte bots they'll become qte bots

but always have a tank in your team

[raw swift]

Thanks, changyu is a qte bot?

[livid lark]

yes

glory as well actually

but glory needs his sig so

[raw swift]

Okay thanks a lot

[turbid bridge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PunishingGrayRaven/s/XwTh0FY92F

[tribal sedge]

I can't find this main stage 😭 I've just been competing the missions in order but I can't now when clicking advance

[livid lark]

running with plume omegalol
especially when kale is free and can do more damage

[livid lark]

did you check what the requirement is to start that chapter

[raw swift]

Wangshi is a new ice tank, correct?

[livid lark]

lmao wangshi that's a new one

[tribal sedge]

I just logged onto my account today and that showed up

[livid lark]

yes

[undone sigil]

He clearly did it on purpose

[frozen creek]

eklao fund me 3x mpa

[turbid bridge]

#📨・meta-help message

[livid lark]

i dunno about that since its reddit

[vague nebula]

been saying wangshi for a year

[livid lark]

pgro reddit is not as bright as you think

[raw swift]

Wanshi? Sorry

[ebon adder]

where to grind 6 star weapon resonance mats if there even is one

[livid lark]

it's fine lol
wangshi is just a funny nickname

[livid lark]

do norman every 2 weeks

[tribal sedge]

No, I can't find it, I just logged onto my account today since the update.

[livid lark]

you'll get shards to convert into weapon resonances

[vague nebula]

why sorry my man. call him wangshi. its a good nickname.

[ebon adder]

okie, is it tripled rn due to patch sync?

[rose yew]

unpossible

[livid lark]

i already said that you will need to go into your main story menu and check there

[livid lark]

yes

[turbid bridge]

Next patch we will get Wanshi Lucid Dreamer as new Ice tank

[zenith thorn]

@dapper skiff logging

[dapper skiff]

Oki

[livid lark]

nah im broke omegalol

[dapper skiff]

Which tree are we getting today

Pine work

Or just a plain old oak

[tribal sedge]

Where may I find that 😭

[frozen creek]

[raw swift]

Thanks

[raw swift]

Thanks

[raw swift]

Thanks

[vague nebula]

who is your favorite for now btw?

[pine slate]

Wankshi

[livid lark]

at the main menu -> Battle -> main tab at the bottom left

[tribal sedge]

Got it, thanks sm

[raw swift]

As in Playable characters or all characters ?

[vague nebula]

playable and npc both

[dapper skiff]

Plapable character?

[vague nebula]

ik who u want to plap

[turbid bridge]

Lustrous

[true pivot]

every character is an npc if you think about it

[livid lark]

you already have gfl

[vague nebula]

[true pivot]

or was

[livid lark]

i remember when i thought lee was hard to get my hands on lmao

[pine slate]

Can I get my hands on u

[vague nebula]