📨・meta-help

[true pivot]

doesnt rexlent mald in solo no hit runs

[distant wren]

Idek if he has a glb acc

[dreamy pelican]

rexlent is a wheller actually

[carmine reef]

no hit runs are not malding lol that's just for fun

[true pivot]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[carmine reef]

they're not really showing much of the actual skillset required to compete at the top level of this game

[pine slate]

Ur qte timing kinda wack imo, especially the first rot

[compact fern]

Wuwa has way better content than pgr for no hit solo so

[pine slate]

Can't u do hold atk for first rot?

[raw swift]

No

[subtle zinc]

Imagine judging someone´s playstyle in a solo gacha game

[raw swift]

Wuwa is now just for simping people,.come and see it yoursef

[distant wren]

Well doing stylish no hit runs is a type of skill as well
It's just not the core gameplay of pgr

[dreamy pelican]

not to say that rexlent sucks at the game; rexlent's shown that he's good at that part of the game only- wz, ppc, the rest? we dk

[carmine reef]

to be completely honest no hit is not that hard in pgr

not with the units we have right now

[compact fern]

Have you done the new patch holograms solo
Pgr is different type of content
Solo run wuwa way better

[dreamy pelican]

just dodge lol

[topaz knot]

I think my guide instructor hast signed in for over a week

Bro isn’t giving me any shards

[carmine reef]

come to me my child

i shall be your instructor

[normal sierra]

not familiar with more than 2 rota kills, so dunno how this plays out with a kill this long, sowwy

not sure what set you using on cow, but if your qtes are ready during the step step phase, you can use them for the dv buff on the step hits
saw your qtes ready to be used during it, but you didn't use them
dv buff is 2s now, and can be time stopped, so abuse it as much as you can

[raw swift]

I quit wuwa aftee Jinshi patch

[dreamy pelican]

dont! he's an abusive father!

[ivory dagger]

Mf hasn't experienced most of the content

[distant wren]

I think before i started the game i saw a wz vid from him
It was dark wz back in the days with laurel/teneb/rozen i think

[compact fern]

Wuwa u get hit u die
Literally
Pgr has a million iframes
Pgr is for malding ngl not for solo flex

[raw swift]

Had achancz having intimate time with hologram bosses though

[vocal lynx]

https://youtu.be/C4gxfcNm6k4?si=IcxtoKJgabbvyikH

This is what I am using.

[topaz knot]

Ok nvm he has been online he just isn’t giving me shards anymore

Wow

[raw swift]

Well i personaly call wuwa is pgr in 2019-2022

[pure pulsar]

[analog cargo]

u told me that u were going to play shuen acc its why i didnt kick

[subtle zinc]

its free to give students stuff, so just ask in the guide chat or find a new one

[topaz knot]

Is there anything else you get other than mem 5 shards cause I’m almost 80 anyways

[zenith thorn]

4guin cow
thanks

[karmic gulch]

Why he failing at that tho-

[carmine reef]

just the shards from gift

[mighty tusk]

I use 4 guin cow

Perfect reso?

[zenith thorn]

you know me

[mighty tusk]

[vocal lynx]

Let me get this simple, no orb Lamia using basic attack for signature click the two qtes

2 3 ping Lamia Qte click qte at hold atk

[mighty tusk]

Surely your score is still 580k

[vocal lynx]

I think I know my issue now.

[nova robin]

What do u buy with trade vouchers

[subtle zinc]

what are those stars and icons?

[true pivot]

daren skin

i think

[analog cargo]

good times when we had daren core bug

[subtle zinc]

dont think so

[analog cargo]

its her swap in skill

the field thing

[subtle zinc]

never seen that before especially under mobs

[analog cargo]

prob cuz u are canceling it

[normal sierra]

it is her yellow/swap in field effect, yeah

[steady otter]

@analog cargo

[analog cargo]

if u dodge after swap,it dosent happen

[zenith kernel]

I wanna have 50k

[subtle zinc]

very strange

[analog cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/cirno-touhou-fishing-dancing-fumo-gif-18003812997195980231

[wicked horizon]

how do you get hanying zitherwoe's free coating?

[vocal lynx]

Daily Log In

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eat-cat-eat-burger-cat-borger-cat-eat-borger-cat-bite-gif-2751778580213316569

[wicked horizon]

okay thanks

[vocal lynx]

Ofc, my pleasure

[orchid owl]

seems like I'm not hitting onslaught this week either

[analog cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/cattitude-chattitude-chat-catsplay-catsfun-gif-26698455

[orchid owl]

man
can't wait for wanshi

[glass bay]

Bricked

[jagged ginkgo]

doea this stack with. monthly?

[noble zinc]

hmm

300daily

[normal sierra]

it does

[turbid bridge]

Yes, it’ll go to your mail

[jagged ginkgo]

wth

[normal sierra]

das the ketchup monthly pack thingy

[topaz knot]

It’s 100 daily not 300

[noble zinc]

I said all together

[topaz knot]

Oh

[jagged ginkgo]

assuming u do daily wity monthly its 300

[rocky wedge]

damn, one tap solo lamia boss zone

[jagged ginkgo]

[vocal lynx]

I improved the score guys.

Tada~

[past thicket]

whats the score for 323 323 101 ice on emperor?

[vocal lynx]

It was rotation and qte timings if we are talking about my problem.

[turbid bridge]

9/11/14

[vocal lynx]

I also can reach 1 more wave

How’s the improvement?

[past thicket]

fdodging?

[vocal lynx]

I accidentally switched to Teddy at end

[turbid bridge]

Of course

[past thicket]

aiiish ssibal

[vocal lynx]

I’m going to try again c:

[hazy cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/mika-blue-archive-misono-mika-pan-beats-you-up-gif-6371939372137962792

[distant wren]

Wtf what is qu fdodge

[vocal lynx]

So far, happy with my score

Huge improvement

[true pivot]

im pretty sure im running the rotation wrong

[turbid bridge]

Swap Qu > 3p > dodge cancel > hold BA > 3p cancel > hold dodge > ult1 is the standard

[distant wren]

Don't do 3 spins with daren

[turbid bridge]

The hold dodge is interchangeable with dodge cancel + Hold BA

[true pivot]

my ult wont be up by then no?

[distant wren]

Only 2 and only extend more if lamia swap cd time isn't over yet

[past thicket]

ur karen isnt spinning fast enough

[true pivot]

æ

[dapper skiff]

Spam faster

[distant wren]

You play on phone?

[true pivot]

both

[dapper skiff]

Daren energy also comes from the spin

Faster spin = faster energy

[mighty tusk]

Just use auto fire

[distant wren]

Because phone daren is bricked

[turbid bridge]

Just get 3S

[true pivot]

i just realized rolling girl was playing in the bg when daren is spinning

[distant wren]

Though if you press fast enough she can still ult after 2 spins

[true pivot]

very ironic

[past thicket]

waw imagine 3S so whel

[true pivot]

🐳

[past thicket]

wrong person who dis

[distant wren]

Wait where's the "fake" part then?

[true pivot]

[distant wren]

I don't get it, thought that was pretty normal cancelling input

[compact fern]

Is daren ss3 worth swapping to in wz if capri isn't 3S?

Lamia is SS for reference

[true pivot]

so should i swap in daren > 3p > hold ba or just hold for 2 spins and dip

[turbid bridge]

Idk, people term it fake dodge so I just parrot it it’s basically dodge cancel

[true pivot]

i feel cooked

[normal sierra]

using normal 3p on Bonkerina

[vocal lynx]

Hero is calling me

To Legend…

I can beat Froggy btw just gotta mald again on Fire WZ

[turbid bridge]

Nope

[compact fern]

Hmm

[inner crown]

How does it take you in the first roguelike mode to get all of the Selena Capricco shards?

[distant wren]

I think you should try to press faster if you play on phone
If pc just use rapid fire key lol

[compact fern]

I don't wanna invest voucher on capri atm lol she's ass to play

Capri need leap like empy to speed up orb ping

[turbid bridge]

Swap in Daren > dodge cancel swap in > Hold BA > spam tap BA after she leaps > ult as soon as it’s up

That’s the gist of it

[mighty tusk]

No need for leap

[past thicket]

why leap when lillith is out

[distant wren]

Leap? It's already joever for her

[compact fern]

Lamia solo hurts to play as well
Run out of orb eventually even with dlt
Need waste time weaving basic

[mighty tusk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/690562580342767647/1118890603313373364/SelenaSyndrome.gif

[turbid bridge]

Just do 1-2 runs each day and you’ll get enough to buy her shards eventually, although I wouldn’t recommend doing that unless you can get her to SSS by whaling because she’s useless outside of SSS

[normal sierra]

not as long as it did on release, but still long
just do 10 nodes per day for the daily missions there and slowly get the shards, not worth farming it outside of daily missions

[past thicket]

just use teddy

[turbid bridge]

Teddy dark DPS

[distant wren]

Nah, rozen leap pasta

[compact fern]

Nah man S+ teddy is worse than my r2 empy lol
Already tested

[distant wren]

Outperform laurel fr fr

[upbeat flame]

Is it worth to farm rozen or should I just keep teddy?

[turbid bridge]

I mean yea R2 is huge

[compact fern]

Teddy just average a ranker
Any amp should win don't even need right element

[sand laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/playing-the-flute-ricky-berwick-making-music-flute-enchanting-gif-13836059669656965894

[past thicket]

time to r2 teddy to out dmg her

[thick grail]

Is she a good character ?

[wicked horizon]

who has the highest dark resist debuff?

[compact fern]

Still doesn't solve the problem of lamia solo

[turbid bridge]

Karenina Scire

[turbid bridge]

Yea have to wait for Lilith

[compact fern]

At least solo lamia isn't as bad as qu solo

[dreamy pelican]

inb4 new dark tank

[past thicket]

kamui should have the same dark debuff but needs ult active

but until karen has leap anw

[compact fern]

Kamui ded
Use xxxi at that point
Imagine wasting time to ult
Xxxi has gather as well

[turbid bridge]

Nah fire tank first just because Kuro

[woven haven]

its funny cuz ishmael has lower shred

[dreamy pelican]

nah its lightning tank trust

[woven haven]

he has it poorly

[rocky wedge]

lamia solo is fine

[woven haven]

bad range bad numbers bad uptime

[thick grail]

????

[wicked horizon]

is it the total of 25% with her sig weapon?

[dreamy pelican]

the emojis answered ur question

[compact fern]

Already need to weave basic after like wave 10

[rocky wedge]

she is not

[thick grail]

Ow D:

[dreamy pelican]

ow :(

[rocky wedge]

dont need to weave basics actually but that i need to show on a video since this game is whack xD

but u will need to basic for ult 2 in fish form tho from time to time which is fine

[woven haven]

15% dark res shred
10% dark res shred from sig
10% dark res shred from sss leap
5% edr shred from sss

So in actuality its almost like 40-45%~ dark res shred

just slightly under

[rocky wedge]

i just got this on second run in tw now, global i should be able to do around this score too I think

[wicked horizon]

getting her to sss feels unrealistic for me lol

[woven haven]

i mean you asked for total
also she’s voucherable next patch

[dreamy pelican]

btw i wanna thank you for making me start getting better

[wicked horizon]

also does kamui tenebrion have to be in his dark form to get extra dark resist debuff?

[ashen edge]

yes if ss

[wicked horizon]

yea i did ask it that way

[dreamy pelican]

without that lamia rot I wouldnt have the motivation to really git gud

[rocky wedge]

this is definitely one of the easier zones

or i could just be really used to it now

[woven haven]

he needs to be in ult mode yes

[rocky wedge]

been long time of playing with fish

[woven haven]

but that takes like 6-7s loss with no timestop

and needs ss

[rocky wedge]

his qte is also worse then trash

[woven haven]

and it has absolutely horrible compatibility with bathlon and eins memories

[empty drum]

is the battlepass better than the monthly?

[vocal lynx]

Okay

[wicked horizon]

thethe wording sounds like its a permanent unconditional debuff, it'd be awesome if we could get it by just using qte

[woven haven]

no they’re both good but for their own reasons

[vocal lynx]

Final scores

[woven haven]

that’s why they force you to ult first before his qte gets 25%

[vocal lynx]

@dreamy pelican You don’t need to send video anymore by the way. I fixed my errors c:

[empty drum]

icic ,thanks

[woven haven]

Anyways not worth ss’ing teneb just for that you won’t ult on him 99% of the time anyways even with ss

[wicked horizon]

also what do you mean voucherable? is it the guaranteed S rank gacha?

[woven haven]

so its pointless

[meager iris]

@shadow holly ss glory have rights

[woven haven]

trade voucher shop
battlepass vouchers

[vocal lynx]

I appreciate that you were going to send a video though c:

[wicked horizon]

okay

[wicked horizon]

oh wow awesome

[turbid bridge]

Doable 3S Qu? Or locked to 3.1?

[vocal lynx]

@meager iris Do you think the score is okay?

[meager iris]

323 yea

[vocal lynx]

I rewatched the Dazzal video

[turbid bridge]

I saved 11

[rocky wedge]

dazzle

[vocal lynx]

I learnt my errors aswell rot+qte it’s all because I double qte at signature only

[meager iris]

tbh I don't know what is optimal or good for your invest

[rocky wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/dota2-dazzle-hespanhol-dota-gif-25460857

[vocal lynx]

It’s okay

Anywho, that’s enough pgr for today

[thick grail]

Among these characters who is worth upgrading?

[vocal lynx]

I’m going to eat my breakfast and try again later with music since I did this listening no music at all

[meager iris]

it seemed undoable at first but I kept playing with qte timings till bingo

[nova robin]

What memories for Watanabe epitaph?

[vocal lynx]

Ok, bye

[turbid bridge]

None

[thick grail]

Ow I just started the game few days ago

[wicked horizon]

so if my dark tteam consists of lamia, teddy and scire, what memory set should teddy and scire use?

[rocky wedge]

teddy = 4dv 2 guin, scire = 4 bathlon 2 ein

[wicked horizon]

got it thanks!!

[vocal lynx]

2pc Cottie 4pc Signature Memory (Alphonse) if using as a dps for WZ with Cottie harmo

2pc Shake, 4pc Alphonse with Shake as Harmo if for Luna team

Resonance for DPS: Red Orb,Sig (Diode Torch Weapon Res)

Resonance for sub dps: Red Orb, Class Skill (DLT Wep RES)

[river nymph]

[nova robin]

What does it mean by shake as harmo

[vocal lynx]

You can refer to grayravens for build.

[vocal lynx]

Shake 4pc is the reason why you use it

No Harmo = No Shake 😊

[nova robin]

Idk what harmo is 😅

[vocal lynx]

Harmo gives you the chance to use another 2pc

[rocky wedge]

holy F finally man 30 damn memories later

[vocal lynx]

Harmonise

[true pivot]

does tapping faster actually make it faster tf

[nova robin]

Idk if I’ve done that before I started 2 days ago not too familiar with everything

[vocal lynx]

With the double 2pc, it unlocks a 4pc buff for you of the Memory

[turbid bridge]

Yea you actually have to spam tap quickly

[vocal lynx]

You need to own the signature though + use harmo mats which can be earned from ppc skulls,voucher,clash reflection rewatds

[turbid bridge]

Only at 3S Scire then you can just hold down BA to speed up automatically

[vocal lynx]

Yeah, just stick with the normal Cottie build for now

[nova robin]

Sig weapon?

[vocal lynx]

Okay, bye for real now and always use gray ravens if ur a new player it will help a lot

[vocal lynx]

Signature Weapon from gacha

And never watch Spider2B

[spice parrot]

so i wasnt able to beat hell The Emperor in ppc before level 2 buff or something my shukra is ss with dlt. Is it a skill issue or is the boss the mega tanky?

[vocal lynx]

Bye now

[nova robin]

I have sig weapon lost to the 20% tryna get lunas

[rocky wedge]

he is tanky but u should be able to beat him with that, depending on ur other 2 team mates

[spice parrot]

im using ss kilin and ss kaleido both 5 star weapon

[true pivot]

whu da hel bruuh

i have been LACKING

[rocky wedge]

oh thats why it will be painful but should be able to clear him still

[compact fern]

guys rate this cope from 1 to 10

[quartz dove]

People willing to use dv luna to get rid of him from ice and u put him on void

[meager iris]

[zenith thorn]

garbet??
eputiph??

[turbid bridge]

Might as well use garnet instead of glorbage

[compact fern]

My wata
Got some issues

[zenith thorn]

just use it

[compact fern]

Even garbet better?

[zenith thorn]

watank stronger than gl*ry anyway

[compact fern]

Hmm

[nova robin]

Should u buy Luna oblivion shards from ppc?

[turbid bridge]

Yep, that’s how you get SS

[nova robin]

Alr thanks

[quartz dove]

Even if hes ss0+5* i probably still better than whatever invest ur glory is

[compact fern]

Glory 3S r1 tho
Bp seems low cuz random mems

Wata ss 5 star yea

Ayla 3S as well

[quartz dove]

Ayla is fine

Unsure about that glory even with cjy 3s r1 u still solo luna

Cus of his pathetic dmg

[compact fern]

Hmm

I put glory to help ayla damage

[quartz dove]

U dont field ayla at all

[zenith thorn]

wait
when is cn patch release

tmrw?

[mighty tusk]

Thursday

[compact fern]

Luna can solo
She run out of orb after 3 ult max no?

[glass edge]

tomorrow cn maintenance?

[zenith thorn]

ok many day to snipe

[coarse pond]

whats the recommended lower memory resonance for CW?

[mighty tusk]

Snipe what exactly?

[zenith thorn]

any +15 atk

[zenith thorn]

sniping my wife

[glass edge]

im just waitin for new vera...

[turbid bridge]

Weave in basic attack after every action, even her BA does more damage than Kaleido ult in nihil Warzone

[zenith thorn]

with cupid arrow

to me

[mighty tusk]

Oh don't you dare

[coarse pond]

planning to do 3 hp+ atk+ and 3 crit+ 3 atk+ is that fine?

[zenith thorn]

uh
it doesnt matter which one

[dapper skiff]

He literally says "any"

Atk

[zenith thorn]

as long any +15 atk

[compact fern]

Doesn't luna being in team turn everyone damage into nihil?

[dapper skiff]

Ah

[zenith thorn]

hp is useless
def is useless
crit is even more useless

[plucky cloak]

so question, is it viable for a casual player to only invest into one team?

[wicked horizon]

i have a question, does phys debuff from rosetta's sig weapon stack with her qte debuff?

[mighty tusk]

No

[turbid bridge]

Nope, only buffs and debuffs are converted to omni-elemental

[compact fern]

I see

[zenith thorn]

casual?
bro you have the whole arsenal to say yes

go however you want idgs

[dapper skiff]

Now I have 50:50 bet people thinking that Luna class convert everyone to nihil from their inability to comprehend Kuro writings or spidoor vid

[mighty tusk]

Can he even clear ppc weeklies with 1 team

[quartz dove]

Cyro lao so toxic

[zenith thorn]

obviously no

[plucky cloak]

i dont even know what ppc is

[zenith thorn]

but not like i care LMAO

[dapper skiff]

Half of ur bc income

[mighty tusk]

Your weekly source of bc and ppc skulls

[zenith thorn]

yep

[plucky cloak]

so would two teams be better than? or do i need one for every element

[wicked horizon]

thats a lot of debuff

[normal bluff]

The latter

[mighty tusk]

Every element

1 team

[normal bluff]

PPC is basically "kill this boss fast" 3 bosses, rotates every week

[plucky cloak]

sadge but got it

[normal bluff]

They have elemental resistance, and a elemental weakness

[plucky cloak]

so even if the team would probably be not optimal its still best to have one for atleast every element

[normal bluff]

Pretty much!

[quartz dove]

Thats how this game is

[normal bluff]

You eventually get that anyway

[plucky cloak]

okay fairly understood

[normal bluff]

3 core elemental team members anyway are free

Well...Counting Lucid dreamer in a month

[plucky cloak]

are they free from the selectors?

[normal bluff]

Dorm commissions, a daily task that basically takes 0 effort to do

[plucky cloak]

ah okiee

[normal bluff]

The game'll show it in the tutorial soon if you haven't yet

[plucky cloak]

thank you for the info, im getting back into it and just started a new account and its alot to take in

[normal bluff]

You buy their invershards in the dorm shop

[woven haven]

nope everyone retains their dmg type and off element modifiers

[normal bluff]

Don't hesitate asking here anytime you need :D

[dapper skiff]

That's what she said

[plucky cloak]

alpha was the reason why im playing to begin with so i want to build up that team as optimal as possible and then work towards the other element's

[coarse pond]

relatable

[plucky cloak]

also coming from wuwa and alpha reminds me of abby so thats another incentive haha

[coarse pond]

downloaded the game, got alpha asap and dumped everything on her

[zenith thorn]

do note it is DEF shred and not phys res shred

[dawn cloak]

Wanna ask is there parry in this game?

I think I heard lots of 'sword clashing' sounds when using free trial Lamia in event stage

[normal bluff]

In a few months you can snag Alpha crimson weave for absolutely free

[plucky cloak]

thats another copy then for her haha

[zenith thorn]

only a certain moveset have parryable attack

[wicked horizon]

wait whats the difference?

[normal bluff]

Her signature weapon,cub and her support

[zenith thorn]

kuro stupid code made it those 2 weird separate entity
im not skilled enough to explain it

[plucky cloak]

her cub will be free? so should i try to get no21's cub instead then for now?

[zenith thorn]

but the are different

[coarse pond]

isnt garnet and lux a better support?

[normal bluff]

Whar?

[mighty tusk]

Even feral is free

[normal bluff]

I'm talking about feral 21

[mighty tusk]

But like, only feral will be useful

[zenith thorn]

cw lmaocry

[mighty tusk]

Free cw is 💀

[normal bluff]

Arutimeto spektakuru

Yaaa!

[zenith thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/punishing-gray-raven-pgr-nanami-knight-nanami-startrail-nanami-pgr-gif-13831863599394995348

[inner crown]

SS rank Oblivion or SS rank Epitaph?

[dapper skiff]

YYAAAAAAAAA 🗣️🗣️

clueless

[zenith thorn]

i would say oblivion tbh

[coarse pond]

yea isnt garnet and lux better for cw?

[normal bluff]

If no Nanami, you're nanabricked

[dapper skiff]

Do you have epitaph sig weapon?

[plucky cloak]

are copy's of cubs a thing?

[zenith thorn]

wtf what age are you living
early 2024?

[inner crown]

No (this is pain cage shop for context)

[normal bluff]

21 does Lux's job a dimensions worth of better

[mighty tusk]

More like nanaknight-feral-any amp/tank if no sss cw

[dapper skiff]

I see
You can get Luna then

[cunning tree]

https://tenor.com/view/capitan-gif-9410277

[mighty tusk]

Having nanaknight already makes cw value questionable

[zenith thorn]

PLEASE LET CW DIE ALREADY

[cunning tree]

-1 dimension cause she's flat

[zenith thorn]

AMEN

[coarse pond]

uh the one where i started 3 days, i just used the reccomended

[mighty tusk]

Umbra

[coarse pond]

ah

[distant wren]

Just sss ezpz

[zenith thorn]

what reccomended

ouh ingame?

[coarse pond]

yes

[normal bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/feral-no-21-awoo-song-feral-21-happy-awoo-gif-16112355568827157852

[zenith thorn]

those are 90% always wrong

[plucky cloak]

so one other question before i go back to the void of lurking, is pulling the new character's for them being stronger only mainly for leaderboards?

[zenith thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/feral-no-21-awoo-song-pgr-feral-21-cute-bouncy-gif-5864432902398418111

[cunning tree]

gross

[normal bluff]

Not just leaderboards, but even progressing as a whole

If you don't get new stuff, you'll be stuck using old ones that won't be as effective

[plucky cloak]

so id have to eventually just stop using characters ive invested in?

[normal bluff]

It be like that

[plucky cloak]

or is it like a preferance thing? like i could just use the older ones, it would just be not as easy

[cunning tree]

progress a s a whake

[normal bluff]

Sometimes they end up as subdps's so...some use can exist

[normal bluff]

Yeah you could do that, completely your choice

[coarse pond]

is the powercreep really that bad in pgr?

[wicked horizon]

does echo curbstomp zitherwoe completely?

[zenith thorn]

you can
you shouldnt
ppc and wz get scale up TREMENDOSLY since they are scaled to the dmg output of new units

[zenith thorn]

it's a steep step,but a really long life span

[turbid bridge]

Yep

[mighty tusk]

Drastic but slow

[coarse pond]

ah

[wicked horizon]

oh man i really like zitherwoe's design

[zenith thorn]

2 year life span,but harash and severe fall

[dawn cloak]

How many rewards do we generally miss by not having the most meta unit?
Just a rough estimate is fine

[ripe stag]

@zenith thorn did you manage to 600k Emperor?

[turbid bridge]

You can still play her in guild battle when she appears in rotation

[cunning tree]

Kuro was developing Noctis for 4 years. Crimson Weave was the beta test but they released her anyways so people wasted their money on that pencil shaped nerd, then had to pull again on the true leader of Cerberus

[zenith thorn]

i just finished eating and im back to malding LMAO

[normal bluff]

someone answer this for me

Idrk ngl

[turbid bridge]

She’s getting a new frame as physical tank next patch anyway so good for you

[mystic lily]

This game is just too good

[past thicket]

not having the most meta unit is quite vague
cuz u can also run changwho solo for emperor

[zenith thorn]

if you mean rewards like pure bcs
I'd say you'd be losing 200 bc (base value) from norman every 2 week
so around 10% loss maybe?

[radiant sandal]

Hi guys, i am currently doing derived from matrix, and i can not figure out for the life of me, what "Phaseshifting" is supposed to be, anyone got a clue?

[turbid bridge]

CR too, we be getting new and tougher cycles every other patch

[zenith thorn]

oh ya i forgot about cr

how much do they give

wait i have pgr open

[turbid bridge]

Nope, they don’t even describe it but I’m guessing something like Luna Oblivion’s dodge

[zenith thorn]

what's 270/3

[turbid bridge]

90

[zenith thorn]

wtf that's fast

[cunning tree]

like90

[past thicket]

asian mafs

[dawn cloak]

Yeah mainly BC
And if sharding up meta unit from shop matters alot in this game

[zenith thorn]

im just going to assume you can get 1st 90
hard to reach 90 but still possible
so 90 losses(base value) every 2 week

let me recount norman too

[radiant sandal]

@turbid bridge gzengnarf, this is driving me nuts, caused my to face-shift irl, but sadly that was not what the set was talking about either D:

[turbid bridge]

Yea sorry no idea what it’s referring to exactly too

[little sluice]

Will the standard selector reset next version? Or do we have more time to use the current one?

[past thicket]

should be in 3 patches

[livid lark]

well, look at it this way

if you follow meta, basically all content can be steamrolled easily even if you're lacking a sig here and there

if you skip a unit on the other hand, you can complete most content (usually up to the 2nd hardest difficulty or similar in challenge content) but to get all achievements you'll need to wait for a long time (ppc 580k for example)

[zenith thorn]

wait i just remembered fabio sheet has minimum effort for bc plan

[past thicket]

maybe at most 1-2 CR floors and last norman stage
i dont think u'll lose out too much

[dawn cloak]

Well we need the BC to roll unit with sig too, so its like spend more BC to get more BC (?) which is kinda a hellish cycle
At least thats my early impression
Dunno how it actually is

[dawn cloak]

Oh if theres a link for it, it'll be very helpful

[livid lark]

weapon banners are always open

character debut banners are not

[zenith thorn]

ok like rought esti is like 10% loss

i think

[livid lark]

you prioritise units first

weapons later

[zenith thorn]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nNauBXGcHv_7AepLWBLo4ykl3V_EhxpK/edit?gid=824145130#gid=824145130

i did a lot of mental gymnast for this rough estimation

[dawn cloak]

Because currently I may not have enough BC for Luna obliv sig
And I dunno who is the next banner, since the sped up can kinda messed it up iirc

[dapper skiff]

Are you gonna play tonight?

[dawn cloak]

Thanks so much!!!
I'll take a look

[zenith thorn]

idk

[dapper skiff]

Shake wata is solid

Hmmm

[zenith thorn]

oh wz

[dapper skiff]

Okay

[zenith thorn]

yeah no
My heart is at ppc malding

[livid lark]

thats why i said you can leave weapons til later

if you can get the next unit then that's the important part

[zenith thorn]

(im still malding ppc)

[dapper skiff]

Lol

[zenith thorn]

snazzlao

[dapper skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/sharkry-wink-wink-girls-frontline-gfl-exilium-gif-6962229955652776470

[dawn cloak]

So do newbie need to evade new debut unit thats bricked without sig weapon?

Or is it still fine? As in its just bricked for chasing top leaderboard

Sorry if I ask many questions

[raw swift]

Should i prioritize epitaph or oblivion shard ? Which has more long term value?

[dapper skiff]

From ppc?

[raw swift]

Yep

[dapper skiff]

No need to sorry

[zenith thorn]

@livid lark is the dv on bot correct or not?

[dapper skiff]

Many questions means you have a lot of doubt with many things

And clearing up those doubts are one of the purpose why we have this channel

[livid lark]

pull anyway

worry about the weapon later

if you're not super competitive then it's not really a brick

[vale raft]

Da Vinci ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

When QTE is triggered, the controlling character gains 10% ATK and 20% DEF for 8s. Duration resets every time it is triggered.

4pc Set Bonus

When QTE is triggered, triggers another character's QTE. 8s cooldown. If there are 3 characters on the field, ATK is increased by 20% for 2s.

ATK

135

CRIT

66

DEF

218

HP

1491

[zenith thorn]

4dv

[livid lark]

all up to date s ranks are important to pull if not free

[rose yew]

kurai trying not to accidentally make another newb kiwi

[dapper skiff]

Well both good either way

Unless you don't have wata sig

[dawn cloak]

I see
Thanks for the answers everyone

[dapper skiff]

To make him worth swapping for getting SS0 since the first place

[zenith thorn]

ok it is up to date

[raw swift]

I don't have wata sig and i don't have oblivion sig

[livid lark]

if the unit is not obtainable through dorm or any other means besides pulling from gacha, it is a must pull

[dapper skiff]

Ight, just get ss0 Luna then

[cunning tree]

guys

[dapper skiff]

SS0 wata won't do much without sig anyway especially once Lucia out

[raw swift]

Okie so when i have luna sig and wata sig what should i target and which to prioritize?

[finite dock]

I wanna ask. Hows the BC farming for endgame players. Is it really enough to get every new char every new patch?

[zenith thorn]

it's easy

[dapper skiff]

By the time u can afford both sig, at that moment you should able to get both ss0 fairly easy

Tbh

[zenith thorn]

we have excess bc to pull sigs tbh
even for f2p

[dapper skiff]

Even for beginner, you have enough income to get every character release too

[raw swift]

Okie final thing wata vs luna sig which is more valuable in term of my account power?

[dapper skiff]

Luna

Cuz we're in sync patch

Lucia would come sooner

[finite dock]

Ohhh i see

[cunning tree]

https://tenor.com/view/fahimokzen-qu-punishing-gray-raven-okzen-gif-20799649

[dapper skiff]

So wata weapon has less relevancy cause Lucia is the main Dps now

[raw swift]

Okie thanks

[calm hatch]

guys I'm a bit confuse about this Annihilator class, its a dps class thats compatible with any element except physical right? doesn't it mean that Annihilator class > Attack class ( of any element), is there a catch to this?

[zenith thorn]

can only get 38-39 emperor spit

[raw swift]

So pyroath is far more stronger than epitaph

[dapper skiff]

Attacker vs tank

It's how it supposed to be

Current powercreep is just because older gen attacker vs new gen tanks

That's why it seems attacker are being left behind

[raw swift]

I dunno i mean epitaph powercrept hyperreal. Did pyroath really need her weapon like oblivion and shukra or not? XDD

[zenith thorn]

annihilator is a class that have 1 useage only

void
that's it
it change all debuff and buff into all element so that luna can actually use it

in a certain sense,yes you can say annihilator is better than attacker

[dapper skiff]

I just made an explanation

Damn

[waxen marlin]

cub at S rank which skill usually use? :?

[rocky wedge]

she kinda wants wep + 1 reso

[livid lark]

no thats a misunderstanding

void is just another element

luna's class only allows shred and buffs of any element (minus phys) to be converted to void only

but you cant use her outside of void

basically just a glorified attacker since she has no other units she can go with atm

[zenith thorn]

skill 4 and 5

[dapper skiff]

I should become a fortune-teller

[opaque ridge]

Snazzalao whel

Sig r1

[calm hatch]

ah I see thanks

[raw swift]

I see r1 okie2 thanks for all you guys help XDD

[opaque ridge]

She needs sss too

[rocky wedge]

ss3

[raw swift]

[cunning tree]

guys

[raw swift]

The funny thing tho in the end void will probably get their own tank and support as we ald get ishmael so what will annihilator used

[livid lark]

then it'll just become like any other attacker

[zenith thorn]

doubt that
they are probably making 3rd void unit as weird as the other void unit

[woven haven]

worst ss3

[rocky wedge]

lucia

[raw swift]

I have SS3 R1 qu and sss nosig changwho and wanshi and I'm still getting 40s+

[woven haven]

worst solo ss3

[livid lark]

[cunning tree]

no

[woven haven]

can’t

[livid lark]

rip if no wata

[woven haven]

the rules of ishmael class passive prevent that

[raw swift]

I have sss indomotus and his sig because i like him same will go with lucid dreamer

[mighty tusk]

Technically, luna class allows buffs and debuffs to also benefit non-void units (so kaleido can also benefit from epitaph shred)

[livid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[raw swift]

Can't what?

[zenith thorn]

if you see aether next msg

[dapper skiff]

Can't stand dn

[woven haven]

There can’t be a third void unit yet

[raw swift]

Ahhhh

[woven haven]

not unless they rework ishmael class passive

[raw swift]

My baf i miss it chat moves so fast

How the hell are people getting 35s with ss0 qu

[woven haven]

which tbf they do that every patch now but still that’s a whole new category

[dapper skiff]

Fel invest

[zenith thorn]

r1 r2

[lunar lava]

how to reply to someone who asks
Is there like beginner character for PGR?

[woven haven]

Ishmael requires

1. one Fire/Ice/Lightning/Dark Tank/Support/Amplifier in order to gain her class typing
   otherwise she’s homeless unit with no buffs

[cunning tree]

https://tenor.com/view/isthisazombie-gif-9769193

[livid lark]

uh in what way? like easy to play?

[lunar lava]

I guess

[woven haven]

nanami lightning tank

[raw swift]

Say no

[woven haven]

easiest character to play

[raw swift]

I don't understand tho i mean observer only mean ishmael is flexible right?

[livid lark]

lol nanaknight and her solo capability

[lunar lava]

This isnt like League of legends where I can suggest Garen xd

[woven haven]

no

[mighty tusk]

Mine is 38 sec hell with 212.3 150 100

[zenith thorn]

wait holup im cooking ppc rn

[woven haven]

Observer is the most restrictive class in the game

[cunning tree]

guys

[raw swift]

How so? The pgr wiki don't explain further 😅

[woven haven]

Every other class is fine being paired with any other combination of classes

observer lives and dies by its rules and if you fail to meet the requirement you get a dead weight unit

[mighty tusk]

Requires attacker/annihilator-tank-amp setup

[acoustic wraith]

hi guys, i still have my standard banner check, im planning to use it on oblivion, is there enough time before the refresh?

[zenith thorn]

epitaph

[lunar lava]

Trust AetherDalao. He is the oldest most experienced player . He's like Oogway from kungfu Panda but wiser

[zenith thorn]

get eptaph

[raw swift]

What is the requirement?

[turbid bridge]

Use themed banner for Luna Oblivion, standard banner selector for Watanabe Epitaph (assuming you don’t have him)*

[livid lark]

he mentioned above

[woven haven]

1. Ishmael can only reflect the element type of the other non attacker units of the team

If you run Luna + Empyrea, Ishmael is a Fire Tank

If you run Luna + Watanabe,
Ishmael is a Fire Amp

If you run Watanabe + Empyrea, Ishmael has no class

[raw swift]

No i want to understand so i can know ishmael real value because i actually value ishmael so high due to observer

[woven haven]

Ishmael buffs are locked to the current class and the % is based on the strongest amp/tank of the same role

[opaque ridge]

Her passive works at sss only

[woven haven]

Dark Tank Ishmael has 35% shred
Fire/Ice/Light Tank Ishmael has 45% shred and -3s swap cd

[raw swift]

Ahh i missed it 😅

[woven haven]

no contest Ayla

ishmael has to sit in tank slot or bye bye tank and shred uptime

yes

Which means she has to be sss for her own swap cd reduction

[zenith thorn]

it has value if your on element amplifer is crippled base S 5* LMAO

[woven haven]

not in void she’s still tank

[zenith thorn]

i mean obviously not on void
but you get my overall point

[raw swift]

Wanshi is free on dispatch shop why you won't SSS him?

[dawn cloak]

So I can safely press unlock to get Teddy?
Theres no difference between getting her initial copies from gacha and from shard right?

[woven haven]

tldr
SSS kaleido vs SSS Wanshi with SS0 Ish

Kaleido team:
No swap -3s
loss of 20% shred

Wanshi team:
amp passive halved
no shred uptime
no shred field

[livid lark]

there is but she's an a rank so the shards are cheaper to get compared to s ranks

[woven haven]

Regardless Ishmael Observer class is the biggest scam in the game

[raw swift]

Do you mean amp 35% shred and tank ishmael 35%shred? And also did the shred works woth wata?

[woven haven]

And its not worth unless your Ice/Fire/Lightning amps are really uninvested

[raw swift]

My bad i forget ayla also in dispatch

[woven haven]

no

[livid lark]

wait so is ss0 ish bricked regardless?

[woven haven]

Yes ss0 ish is bricked

[livid lark]

looks like a lose lose here

[woven haven]

her full class only kicks in at sss
and then you have a lose lose situation when lilith is added

[livid lark]

aww hell nah

[zenith thorn]

tbf in aether mind everything ss0 is bricked

[woven haven]

only ss0 ish can run lilith with no downsides

[turbid bridge]

Serum spending event: 320 shards
Event shop: 30 shards
Total 350 shards enough to S+ by unlocking, don’t need to gacha any copy

[zenith thorn]

sss or ununstall

[woven haven]

no its not even that

Even at sss she gains new bricks ss0 didn’t have

its a lose if you ss0
lose if you sss

[zenith thorn]

fun

[woven haven]

Ishmael is legitimately the most scuffed designed kit in the entire game

[raw swift]

So in other word ishmael not worth the pull? @woven haven

[livid lark]

wait what
so she's grouped with the likes of qu and nanamech?

[woven haven]

the class passive specifically

[livid lark]

still need to pull unfortunately

[woven haven]

still void main dps

you just have to suffer her quirks

[acoustic wraith]

okay thank you!

[raw swift]

Huh isn't void main dps oblivion?

[livid lark]

kuro's never escaping the bad unit kits lol

[zenith thorn]

not in ishamel

[dapper skiff]

I don't think there will be any changes for void zone multi

Wata used in void team just because he has high shred

[woven haven]

this is not how it works

If you run Amp Attacker Ishmael
Ishmael is a tank with tank passives and shred

If you run Tank Attacker Ishmael
Ishmael is an amp with heals and support buffs

If you run Tank Tank/Amp Amp/Tank Amp with Ishmael
She is classless and gets nothing
no shred no buffs no heal

[dapper skiff]

His dmg is as close as dmg loss especially with Luna zone

[woven haven]

nope ishmael is now

[raw swift]

So if i have oblivion why would i would want ishmael? Did she crept luna so much?

[woven haven]

yes

[dapper skiff]

Last cycle, solo Luna gets better score than swapping with ss0 r1 wata with Luna weather

SS0 wata is very underwhelming

Maybe sss may change 1 or 2

[woven haven]

You go from 70% Luna dmg 30% Wata dmg
to 60% Ishmael dmg 40% Luna dmg

if you have ish ss3 the gap widens

[zenith thorn]

https://imgur.com/a/eQ6cMVk

[woven haven]

no

[raw swift]

Hmmm

[woven haven]

Its same 0.3 vs 1.3
but all dmg types including phys gain +100% dmg bonus in void wz

[raw swift]

[woven haven]

so off element feels less painful

[woven haven]

seriously if you skip ish for void you can give up on void team forever

[opaque ridge]

Bricked kit, unskippable

[woven haven]

and if you ask whether skipping Luna for Ish is possible

it isn’t
Ish relies on Luna class passive for conversion

[opaque ridge]

U lose either way

[woven haven]

You have to use both

[raw swift]

The issue is the 4 s back to back then ish i might just need to pray to rngesus

[opaque ridge]

Time to quit pgr

[woven haven]

too bad then

[opaque ridge]

Imma go play blue archive

[woven haven]

its just Sync issues

[raw swift]

[woven haven]

Oh and don’t think about skipping nanami she’s meta in 3 teams
4 before ish took her void tank slot

[keen skiff]

Is pyroath playable with Bridget + Empy

[woven haven]

Lilith is free so fk her

[zenith thorn]

nanami in ishmael patch so still 3

[woven haven]

nope

[raw swift]

That is why someone told me not to skip her she in as much team as wata if not more

[keen skiff]

alr

[opaque ridge]

Game is unplayable if u dont have all the meta characters

[woven haven]

Any pyroath team without wata can lose up to 60-80% dmg output depending on how you play

[keen skiff]

[opaque ridge]

No sig, no harmo, no ss3, unplayable

[woven haven]

Currently Echo Nanami and potentially Lilith are triple meta

Lucia and Selena are main dps of 2 elements each

[keen skiff]

bro wha

omg

[valid void]

Can anyone tell me why are there no Tactical Tonfas in the recycle shop?

[woven haven]

nah r1 is enough

r2 is just dmg resos at that point

[turbid bridge]

Friday after reset

[woven haven]

doesn’t matter

[valid void]

So I gotta wait till friday again for the shop to reset? Am I understanding that correctly?

[turbid bridge]

Friday after daily reset, it’ll appear in 5* weapon shop

[zenith thorn]

uh no friday so that bridget gets added to pool

then you can buy her wep

[valid void]

Ohhh alright thanks for the clarification

[woven haven]

anyways

I’m tempted to practice some editing skills to make a ishmael infographic but i feel like i’d end up needing to write so much it’d be a wall to wall painting

[zenith thorn]

ppc cook failed

[mighty tusk]

Clear times?

[turbid bridge]

Only thing I’m excited about Ishmael is the misinfo that will be spread about her kit

[zenith thorn]

best i could get is around 38

[lunar lava]

lol if you try to explain that to new players coming here for CW you're a hater and meta slave

[mighty tusk]

Now get below that

[zenith thorn]

actually need r1 r2 so that i can kill with hold dodge'

[mighty tusk]

Because your invest is better than mine

[zenith thorn]

marginally better sure

it's not much anyway
lacking dmg for hold dodge kill

maybe i just need r1 glory actally

[mighty tusk]

You got 586k then?

[distant wren]

you did weak-strong-weak-strong-strong for hell right?

[zenith thorn]

because it's literally just half

[mighty tusk]

Weak strong strong

[distant wren]

nah

[zenith thorn]

otw to hell

[pale osprey]

How Does One Create New Guest In Same Device My Friend Is ReRolling He Have 1 Guest Created ?

[distant wren]

no way

[zenith thorn]

i reseted on 38

[distant wren]

it's impossible to be at 38s with just weak strong strong

[mighty tusk]

Or maybe I'm misremembering what I did since I wasnt malding enough

[distant wren]

[mighty tusk]

It's a semi 1-tap for me

[zenith thorn]

u def misremembering it

i did weak strong weak strong strong

[brazen tangle]

How do i build my nihil team? I dont have epitaph and my empy is only at 6.3k

[zenith thorn]

get epitaph

that;s your void

[brazen tangle]

How so? Could you explain

[woven haven]

Because he’s the shred provider for the team

and the subdps

highest base shred in the game currently

[raw swift]

If you don't have the standard banner selector anymore just use Bridget it's not a good alternative but it's the only alternative

[brazen tangle]

Ive been saving it actually, will i get another in the future?

[zenith thorn]

yes'

[raw swift]

Yes

[brazen tangle]

Including future cn patches or?

[raw swift]

So use it now on watanabe epipen

[raw swift]

Watanabe has the same base shred as the next tanks but until Nanami Startrail he's best in slot

But then again directly after Nanami is Ishmael who is gonna be your main tank anyway

[woven haven]

every future tank only matches the same shred%
their dmg differs ofc

and eventually void tank slot will be taken by ishmael who will be new main dps

[raw swift]

Wata

Cause wanshi has the free debuff

[woven haven]

wanshi r1 means 8% more shred

over wata who is forced to run dlt

so maybe wanshi in this case

Lower dmg for downtime but higher dmg for luna

[raw swift]

Really I was told Wanshi wouldn't be better than ss0 wata until SSS

[buoyant hornet]

That's a crazy statement ngl

[zenith thorn]

dude you gotta remember everyone in gph just parrot

they dun know sh*t

[pine slate]

any ss0 refs for emperor?

[raw swift]

Well I was gonna test both anyway

[zenith thorn]

fel invest?

[buoyant hornet]

If wanshi was that weak he wouldn't be rotating with qu at ss0

[zenith thorn]

[raw swift]

He doesn't?

[buoyant hornet]

.....he does

[raw swift]

Oh wait

[buoyant hornet]

Now who's been feeding misinfo.....

[woven haven]

this is r1 vs r1 specifically speaking

cuz typically people put less resos into wanshi

And r2 wata is enough to get dlt + shred

r1 wata has less shred on void than wanshi r1

[buoyant hornet]

Ss3 wanshi gives 35% shred I'd say that's a definite yes

[dapper skiff]

Acaxi

Renn

Oh wait
Not renn

It wasn't emperor

[raw swift]

My fire team is 221 115 110 would wata be better holding cottie or shakes

Cause I feel like Liv is still not doing enough damage to fill in for the lost uptime wata would have with cottie

Until I ss her from the selector (hopefully)

[buoyant hornet]

@mighty tusk I BARELY got 580k emperor with hypnos changyu comps (no sig cub, just SS squid)

[pine slate]

acaxi was on sub human invest

[buoyant hornet]

The acc with harmo ayla got it easily though

[dapper skiff]

So what

U want the whel one?

Smh

[ebon adder]

what are these numbers dawg

[buoyant hornet]

Shakes most likely

[zenith thorn]

nuclear code

[raw swift]

5 is for 5* weapon

[brazen tangle]

Does luna actually make everyone in her team nihil element?

[raw swift]

It makes their buffs applicable to every element but she doesn't change their damage

[dapper skiff]

Lmao

No

[dreamy pelican]

いえ

[brazen tangle]

Then ill just leave luna alone in her team..

[vale raft]

Luna: Oblivion

Skill - Class Passive (Lv. 18)

Annihilator

Extra DMG Bonus increases by 20.0%. Elemental Resistance Reduction and DMG Increase applied by any member will become universally effective for all elements.

[zenith thorn]

what part of this do you not understand

[dreamy pelican]

[dapper skiff]

I made more simple and yet still compile explanation how her class work in Luna FAQs

It's in #📨・meta-help message

[distant wren]

that certain video did irrepairable dmg

[dapper skiff]

Or u can always check the pin

[zenith thorn]

@livid lark did you simplify luna class btw LOL

[dapper skiff]

[livid lark]

uh ask Fabio

I didn't make changes

[dreamy pelican]

mis2info

[raw swift]

She changes everyone's buffs to omni-element (applicable to every element)

[distant wren]

it's also like that in-game now

[buoyant hornet]

Some people were parroting that Luna having extreme sig reliance "makes sense" because otherwise she'd be "too broken" for all wz elements because she'd allow us to skip every other team

[distant wren]

so they most likely took it from there

[raw swift]

50/50 was a bit too genetous

[buoyant hornet]

💀

[woven haven]

@deft apex

[zenith thorn]

UNI ELEMENT
NOT OMNI ELEMENT

[woven haven]

sticker this

[mighty tusk]

But 580k still?

[livid lark]

yea Fabio copied it from in-game

so in this case it would be Kuro's fault i think

[digital moat]

Its not even that badly worded

[woven haven]

this one is fine
the other one isn’t

[distant wren]

well i have no comment on that

[digital moat]

What is the other one

[distant wren]

since i'm not native speaker

[dapper skiff]

That's soooooo much simpler than what we're leaning with

But too bad

Spidoor already uploaded his guide

The dmg is irreversible now

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah thankfully but god it was some awful malding (19, ~30, 40)

[dapper skiff]

[distant wren]

[livid lark]

it's ok he did us a favour

ez rankings for wz

[brazen tangle]

Thats quite helpful, thank you for your services

[buoyant hornet]

Although the ayla scores were similar to yours or 1s slower

I actually almost got 2s faster hell but I forgot how

[woven haven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1329331754544271432/image.png?ex=6789f42c&is=6788a2ac&hm=341c15b620e9e688696e87662eedb0308d906e6bf560a1a342bd519be4303faa&

[digital moat]

Okay that's horrible

[dapper skiff]

No problem

[digital moat]

[dapper skiff]

Kuro did it again

[livid lark]

kuro did the real competitive players (if there still are any) a favour

[distant wren]

lmao

[livid lark]

most of the community will misunderstand that and give us free retain

[dapper skiff]

Inability to comprehend writings + Kuro writings makes global debuffs even stronger than ever before

[buoyant hornet]

Saying a whole lot of nothing lmao

[next dock]

after uniframe debuff removal, does roland work as a cope fire attacker

[buoyant hornet]

Real

[dapper skiff]

At that point if u couldn't afford any other fire unit as dps besides Roland, u've been missing too many things

[buoyant hornet]

Uh ig? Idk if he's better or worse than s+ bridget though lol

[livid lark]

probably extremely cope

[distant wren]

if you have no other fire s ranks released after him then maybe

[dapper skiff]

Bridget would still go through

Considering we are getting S+ Bridget for free this patch

[woven haven]

no

[next dock]

my literal only fire unit is bridget

[woven haven]

roland is slow

[dapper skiff]

Even though I like Roland very much

Bridget still gonna outdone him

[next dock]

i see

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah her burst can be way quicker

[woven haven]

also for a slow unit roland’s class is a personal amp passive so its doubly useless

[distant wren]

Wait fr?

[woven haven]

also pyroath is the very next patch so investing in roland is just bad

[buoyant hornet]

Uniframes insanely outdated lol

[dapper skiff]

He is just a reminiscence from the past

[buoyant hornet]

Teddy outdps camu with ease

[distant wren]

Lmao

[dapper skiff]

5* S0 hyper already outdone him

[mighty tusk]

Tempest vs noctis and dawn though

[buoyant hornet]

She even outdps base S sigless laurel somehow

[next dock]

Wait so we truly getting 3 S ranks in the same patch?

i thought next was going to be a double patch

[livid lark]

he speculating

[dawn cloak]

No need to reroll. Just play asap. The sync makes the f2p reward 3x. Missing days means less resources.
Thats what someone in this channel tells me

[turbid bridge]

No no he meant the next patch after uniframe debuff removal

[dapper skiff]

Uni is just ded

[buoyant hornet]

Tbh tempest is such a funny outlier she's built like rosetta/garnet lowkey, ultra consistent and really fast with good output

[next dock]

ah, ok

sorry i'm dum

[turbid bridge]

[mighty tusk]

And very fast, but runs out of "juices"

[buoyant hornet]

Although even dawn can outdps base S tempest iirc

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah it's funny that she could straight up replace veritas until cw 😭

[mighty tusk]

Even test up to knight siren

[sick bronze]

Hello~
Just wanna ask if the 2 new free characters are worth it for those who just started out?

[zenith thorn]

oh teddy and bridget?

they are okayish

free sss+ is free

[buoyant hornet]

I wanna find videos of people using her as dps it sounds interesting to see lol

[dapper skiff]

Mateix ping in ult is faster

[buoyant hornet]

Honestly they're insane for new players

[dapper skiff]

U'd get same orb total

[zenith thorn]

marko pgr for ppc
jeremey have tempest wz too i think?

[sick bronze]

I'm using Teddy with Lamia and 21 team. This is okay right? I'd like to know some tips from you guys on what I should do to properly make the team work with her

[mighty tusk]

#📨・meta-help message
Whel invest though

[quartz dove]

Dalao hour

[zenith thorn]

pretty decent budget team all to be considered
im assuming you got lamia from standard banner right?

[buoyant hornet]

Matrix ping in ult is faster but can easily fck up your orbs, the 2nd strat is more consistent and can maintain orbs better but slightly slower

[zenith thorn]

could get a better unit,but it's fine

[lament coral]

Is it worth to build this woman or just save my resources for empy

[near arrow]

Yo I need some help , I’m trying to like get memories for Watanabe epitaph . Like what’s his best set for memories?

[zenith thorn]

why am i still malding for 38 hell
while this mf @mighty tusk got in wantap

[vale raft]

Watanabe: Epitaph <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:tank:1290614106520555571><:fire_element:1290613867365273630>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set

Memories

4x Alphonse
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Red Orb
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

Cottie

[buoyant hornet]

You're also a shredless tank coper?

[mighty tusk]

Technically my first score is 39 sec, but after that got 38 sec

[zenith thorn]

212 100 100

[buoyant hornet]

Lol I tried malding for 38 but ended up settling for 39

[sick bronze]

Mhmm~ I'm planning to just be a f2p player in PGR cuz a friend told me they're very generous and considerate to their playerbase.

Do I upgrade her everything? Or there's no need to?

[dapper skiff]

No need to

Just upgrade what's important for u

[lament coral]

anyone

[zenith thorn]

upgrading who exactly

teddy?

[buoyant hornet]

I wanna say sig glory should definitely get 38s easily?

Even I got close while using xxi as cope tank LMAO

[zenith thorn]

you get 3x worth of resources anyway
just build it

[buoyant hornet]

Qu is honestly so strong I can't believe she can do this without glory

[zenith thorn]

idfk im wanshed af lmaocry

[next dock]

slap a 5* weapon, get some memories with random resonances and shes good to go

[buoyant hornet]

Try recording a 39s run maybe?

[zenith thorn]

why record
just mald longer

im advanced enough to know my wrongs and fix them up LMAO

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah I mean so we can figure out what you could do to get better score

[buoyant hornet]

Based

[zenith thorn]

i only record when i know where im lacking and asking actual better players

[buoyant hornet]

But tbh different perspectives still can help imo even for advanced players

Tbh qu's thing is she's kinda locked to matrix/qte for rotations lmao

That's why we're all getting similar time

[mighty tusk]

But qte wise, it should come up out of cd for each rot

[buoyant hornet]

The only difference is how many actual rotations she needs to kill

[buoyant hornet]

Definitely

[zenith thorn]

i really wanna reso glory so that i can actually just kill it for 37

[mighty tusk]

R1 glory

[ripe stag]

@zenith thorn how's it

[zenith thorn]

good investment

[zenith thorn]

38 max
im still malding for it because im WASHED

37 need r1 glory

[ripe stag]

What's the score

Oh god

I'm fcked

[buoyant hornet]

I love how most of the time spent on this run was just the intro animation 💀

[buoyant hornet]

Patience soldier

R1 for 1-2 runs of emperor not worth 😭

Unless you're whel

I really really hope we don't get emperor again before wanshi

But I heard we do 💀💀💀💀

[ripe stag]

Ok

16 seconds knight

Fck it

@zenith thorn decreased the 17 seconds to 16 seconds

[buoyant hornet]

That's good tho I'm guessing

[ripe stag]

Not enough for chaos btw

[glass bay]

best time is 32 on emperor hell

fak

[buoyant hornet]

Best time for what invest?

[glass bay]

maybe 30 possible

[zenith thorn]

felinvest

[glass bay]

213 110

[buoyant hornet]

Not enough what exactly? Can't kill?

[ripe stag]

Yes

[glass bay]

think 600k possible

[buoyant hornet]

Yep that's emperor in a nutshell

[glass bay]

just on the dot 600k

[digital moat]

I did 604k with my invest

Though i was slacking a bit

[buoyant hornet]

My bestie is whel 🙏

[valid void]

Should I level up da vinci memories on my support or I shouldnt if Im only using the support for QTE?

[buoyant hornet]

Slacking 😭😭

[digital moat]

Ma'am it's just 2.023.0 112 101

[zenith thorn]

least priority

level up your dps first

[valid void]

Okay thank you

[buoyant hornet]

I mean leveling bottom row mems does increase their healing amount if you care

[glass bay]

wtf r2 cow

[ripe stag]

FCKING BULLSH*

[buoyant hornet]

R2 sss ayla magic

[ripe stag]

DUDE TOOK 2 FCKING STRONG ULTS

ON CHAOS

💀💀💀💀💀

[buoyant hornet]

Just try letting one of the core passive animations play out if you're skipping them

[subtle zinc]

is he worse than lilith as f2p?

[buoyant hornet]

It'll be 1s less potentially but maybe not even that

[buoyant hornet]

No lol

[glass bay]

i think with my r0 cow still possible to 600k

[subtle zinc]

or are t hey both pretty aevil

[ripe stag]

I can 600k Lilith with my skill issue and XXI tank