📨・meta-help

[winter wind]

CW SS0

[buoyant hornet]

Lemme go watch Jeremey's wz video lmao

[buoyant hornet]

Honestly I'm not sure if ss0 nanami can solo without her sig + dlt

@wispy robin any clue?

[winter wind]

I’ll have her sig and dlt

[buoyant hornet]

Then yeah it's a definite solo

[winter wind]

Okay so just swap CW out for Vera then?

[wispy robin]

if your cw has decent invest you can still swap with her if theres feral weather

[winter wind]

Cw only SS0 1 reso and CUB

[dapper skiff]

It just 8% more shred on top of character and eins shred
They're same elemental shred

[languid smelt]

wdym hamro recommended for 4 dv?

[dapper skiff]

And no

Cuz both is exactly 2 same shred

[shadow holly]

shred reso? it does

[wispy robin]

yea it's good enough depending on weather
swap on feral weather, solo on nanami weather, and cw weather is complete rng so swap may work out better as well

[buoyant hornet]

Yes

[shadow holly]

he means the weapon reso shred, not the keyworded normal one

[dapper skiff]

Oh weapon resos?

Ah

Mb

[deft apex]

She might struggle a bit filling her bar without dlt, but it's really not awful honestly

[buoyant hornet]

They mean that only vera has shred reso in this scenario

[buoyant hornet]

Interesting so do you see any probability that sigless nami would be better off swapping with ss0 sig cw?

[dapper skiff]

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah in that case if you solo you'll just want double support/amplifier probably

[glass bay]

What score will we get if we auto clear ppc

[wispy robin]

i mean no harmo nanami is really bad it needs a lot of testing to be able to say anything

[buoyant hornet]

Ic ic

[buoyant hornet]

80% of our highest score

[wispy robin]

like who going to carry heisen

[glass bay]

Fml can't auto clear...

[deft apex]

Sigless is less dmg, but its still not that significant of a loss to just ss cw swapping I don't think
But tbf only by trying would this be an actually good answer

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah ig qte bots can but it does make wave chaining more annoying ig

At least on early waves

[buoyant hornet]

Yeahhhh

[wispy robin]

if cw harmo then you can do 4 heisen cw with some cope rot ig

[buoyant hornet]

Maybe there's a bili video about it somewhere

But after trying to search something on bili I can confirm I'm sht at it

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah I have several harmo units that can easily carry 4heis it's just a matter of choosing which of them has the best qte for it

[deft apex]

From my s 5* perspective, ss sig cw would probably still be able to push weight

[buoyant hornet]

Does garnet flag apply heisen? That'd be the best case scenario

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah prolly lmao

[wispy robin]

and it's still weather dependent either way
feral weather is 100% swap regardless, nanami weather may be playable semi solo at 5*?
cw weather i think def swap as well

[subtle zinc]

just like with dark, if scire isnt harm, you dont run bathalon so you just would not run it

[buoyant hornet]

Is she that dependent on her sig mem?

[subtle zinc]

because you can accomidate lack of 4piece with 2 sets on 2 chars

No I meant the heisen topic

[polar coyote]

how do i get the achievement what do i need to do

[subtle zinc]

just in general, getting someone that can hold it is challenging for every team so its not specific to Nanami

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah definitely

[deft apex]

I should get my story achievements thing pinned

[buoyant hornet]

Is there a way to know for sure if the tank shred fields apply the 4pc mem shred??

[deft apex]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Lw0sWZVfXFh-YZ9O2qxZCpU6UW7dpCS34i773bzAkcs/edit?usp=drivesdk

[wispy robin]

||test it out||

[buoyant hornet]

Because if that's the case then I could just run hanying/wanshi/garnet with heisen

[buoyant hornet]

How though 😭

We don't have the debuff icons yet lol

[sage forge]

who replaces stigmata?

[wispy robin]

i mean if dmg gets bigger then shred is most likely applied

[buoyant hornet]

Ig so

[buoyant hornet]

Selena Pianissimo

[deft apex]

Beautiful godess selena

[subtle zinc]

it should be easy to test if you have a control character that does an attack and a 2nd with and with

[deft apex]

Oops wrong reply

[deft apex]

Beautiful godess selena

[subtle zinc]

I think it should work, bc they just say 'attacking inflicts' the debuff

[buoyant hornet]

I think it'd be better to test with a non-lightning 4pc mem

[subtle zinc]

I think I have a friend who uses Scire with shake DV for PPC bc he does not have pulse sig

not 100% sure tho

[visual topaz]

i have scire shakes harmo

[shadow holly]

shakes Scire op actually

[visual topaz]

nah

[subtle zinc]

wata cottie shake scire ppc ? lol sounds kinda

[visual topaz]

i did unlock harmo for the leaderboard from deep blue wanna be game

[subtle zinc]

i mean if thats what you have it works lol

[shadow holly]

unless you need to offload the shred reso to her which shouldn't happen with r3, or even r2 Wata, Scire is the best 2nd tank option for epitaph ppc

[visual topaz]

that one

[shadow holly]

and from next patch the weapon shred reso will become universal so you'll be able to offload shred reso to scire even though she's not fire

[stray siren]

Scire SSS is tank of tanks

[stray siren]

What is this

[visual topaz]

evolving sequence leaderboard

[river nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-gif-26056756

[subtle zinc]

wait really the weapon shred is not independant from the mem sets or

[pulsar viper]

Who’s the next gacha skin

[stray siren]

AHH right

[pulsar viper]

Or rerun

[visual topaz]

das the reason why i have shakes harmo scire

[river nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-punishing-gray-raven-liv-solaeter-empyrea-gif-27432757

[visual topaz]

empyrea

[subtle zinc]

wrong skin omg

[stray siren]

Next patch is Karen iirc

[river nymph]

[subtle zinc]

I would do anything for the other one

[visual topaz]

the angel skin got new sfx sound this patch

[analog cargo]

am i not ssupposed to have intesive ppc

[pulsar viper]

Is Karen empryea

[visual topaz]

[river nymph]

sorry the best kuro can do is a 4th volatile priestess rerun

[deft apex]

Come here for specific story nodes (the ??? achievements)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Lw0sWZVfXFh-YZ9O2qxZCpU6UW7dpCS34i773bzAkcs/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[subtle zinc]

Its rerun 4 times? lol

[visual topaz]

Fabio not asking me

[deft apex]

You're my fav helper dw

[visual topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-cat-in-front-of-sea-gif-16930437336998530733

[carmine reef]

wtf.

[deft apex]

Selena lover respect

[river nymph]

no i mean the thong alpha skin, it got like 4 reruns while empy and veritas white skins get 0

[visual topaz]

waiting for the tide to kidnap me

[river nymph]

[visual topaz]

3 reruns for the thong

[river nymph]

i missed veritas grace

[zenith thorn]

veritas grace kinda sux ngl

[subtle zinc]

yeah I blame gooners many here for supporting over sexualized skins

[river nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/bianca-wedding-wedding-dress-pgr-bianca-veritas-gif-24347373

[buoyant hornet]

Interesting actually

[buoyant hornet]

It does mean better rots for wata tbh

[buoyant hornet]

Wait it's next patch already?

[river nymph]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/803321154643034114/831254840617074748/image0.gif

[pulsar viper]

Oh is this the one coming out or the black one you sent earlier?

[buoyant hornet]

Looks like my rosetta won't be completely out of meta after all lol

[river nymph]

black one

[stray siren]

I need my Karen ember skin

[subtle zinc]

i may pick this and delete it in protest

[tranquil flare]

When is echo leap

[stray siren]

It's the only one I'm missing

[river nymph]

[stray siren]

Selena patch

[buoyant hornet]

All the tank fields only apply by doing their rotations aka they don't magically drop them on qte like garnet right?

[stray siren]

[river nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-gif-26056756

me n queso

[deft apex]

Dont worry, im not cheating on you

[pulsar viper]

Thanks! She’s just a qte/support unit right? Or am I wrong

[subtle zinc]

are we in same WZ bracket

[tranquil flare]

Selena?

[carmine reef]

ye and they all require sig mem as well

[tranquil flare]

Whe getting new Selena?

[river nymph]

yeah pretty much, fully qte bot after lucia pyroath

[stray siren]

Yep

[deft apex]

Yes sir

[pulsar viper]

I see no point in getting the skin then

[buoyant hornet]

Kk so if garnet flag does apply the 4pc shred effects then she's gonna be a good qte bot for nanami, I'll test it and let y'all know lol

Unless someone already knows

[subtle zinc]

i´m going to give void one more session its such a pain what wave did you get to?

[pulsar viper]

I am wondering whether or not the Bianca or alpha gacha skins will rerun soon tho

[carmine reef]

holy crap

[buoyant hornet]

For sigless* nanami

[carmine reef]

i think this whole time my luna cub didn't have passives equipped

[buoyant hornet]

Oh 💀

[river nymph]

no reruns announced for those as of now

[subtle zinc]

my cubs drop their skills alot if you have them aross chars on the build thing

[river nymph]

oh wait

[deft apex]

So you're telling me my wz run is probably not good enough

[river nymph]

actually i think Bianca one is coming back

[tranquil flare]

I wish I could get my brs to sss

[pulsar viper]

[buoyant hornet]

That's why I just save everything on the team presets

[proper loom]

how good are empyrea leap skills?

[carmine reef]

i have the stuff saved on presets

[stray siren]

Wave 21, but it was a very strange run, it was my worst run and where I went the furthest

[carmine reef]

but the preset itself didn't have the skills selected

[wispy robin]

just always go from the preset menu since it saves the skills

[buoyant hornet]

They make her actually usable

[carmine reef]

so my preset was overriding with blank skills

[subtle zinc]

omg SAME I have no clue how I did my score after practicing im not getting better

[buoyant hornet]

Empyrea was a product of gen 1 kit design so she's really outdated by today's standards without leap

[buoyant hornet]

Ouch

[subtle zinc]

I can get to 19 most runs but the bear is really brutal and I have anxiety now

[buoyant hornet]

Can you believe this dogsht mess was somehow my best run?
https://youtu.be/QHcOlzfoco4?si=cMVVkHY3EJbiG1bm

Warzone is so weird sometimes

[subtle zinc]

usually its because you just played fast and didnt think

once you start getting in rotation puppet mindset its over

(to a degree ofc)

[proper loom]

I dont have wata tank, so what could serve as a replacement?

[stray siren]

It was very funny because I accidentally switched to Kaleido and that helped me kill the boss of wave 20, I'm trying to replicate it but I can't

[buoyant hornet]

Whoever's your best tank in terms of shred value and go solo luna, and wanshi next patch will be a great alternative who can also rotate with luna

[river nymph]

yeah i just checked, it comes back in nana star trail patch

alpha one idk

[buoyant hornet]

I wasted a whole wata swap on a shield wave and somehow got a better score

[subtle zinc]

thats awesome. I actually do swap to her before Luna SOMETIMES but i´m not fast enough and probably BA too much for that

[pulsar viper]

Thanks how long is that if you have a rough estimate

[river nymph]

prob around may

[pulsar viper]

Damn

[river nymph]

depending on how fast we get the patches merged

[proper loom]

got it, thanks

[hot rain]

Which cub is worth to get for Ice team?

[pulsar viper]

Ah I forgot to ask if she will be replaced in the meta soon with all these sync stuff

[carmine reef]

ok i got a higher score now

my cub skills 💀

[river nymph]

yes she will by new selena, although she will still be used for trueslash stuff

[languid smelt]

wait who is getting powercreeped?

[pulsar viper]

That’s unfortunate then I just didn’t want to spend 100$ on a skin for them to be benched

[deft apex]

LMAO SAME

[river nymph]

we are talking about stigmata

[languid smelt]

oooof

[silent condor]

uh, should I get epitaph for my fire/Nihil team, in where I got Luna for Nihil and Lee for fire Or pull for Qu Shukra for a ice team where I only got Ayla Kaleido?

[river nymph]

yeah the speed up patches really shortens the meta life span of a lot of gacha skins

[deft apex]

Omfg

[buoyant hornet]

Epitaph tbh

[stray siren]

Lol empy dodges at min 1:00

[silent condor]

6 star weapon a must for him?

[pulsar viper]

I just bought the lamia skin I should be fine for this entire year at least right

[river nymph]

probably

[buoyant hornet]

YES lmao I still don't completely understand how her leap works I thought I could always just double dodge to proc core then I was like ???? while mashing dodge

[river nymph]

the background is good at least

[buoyant hornet]

Pretty much

[languid smelt]

''then i was shot 57 times''

[river nymph]

[pulsar viper]

Yes yes

[stray siren]

Yeah, using the deer on Ayla gives a huge buff to Luna, but I feel like I'm too slow for that

[buoyant hornet]

So I'm not the only one struggling with squeezing amp half rots in void?

[subtle zinc]

I like having a back up time stop ult too but

[buoyant hornet]

Is it normal to just not do that or does it mean something is going wrong

[subtle zinc]

you do nothing more than swap 3ping and goto luna MAX

[river nymph]

prob depends on your wata rank

sub-sss wata with shakes looks rough

[carmine reef]

like 70k score

[subtle zinc]

unless you are doing less BA´s and making it like, a planned effort for a late wave

[wispy robin]

you need a proper wata rot for it

[subtle zinc]

yeah I cannot imagine under sss could find time

[carmine reef]

onetap with my cub skills equipped

[buoyant hornet]

Tbh if it's kaleido at sub sss her ult prolly isn't even worth but empy's ult on the other hand has a big multiplier

[stray siren]

I prefer Luna > Wata > Luna > Wata

[buoyant hornet]

But that's offset but empy's rot being weirder/slower

[carmine reef]

damn now i gotta reupload my video

[river nymph]

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah maybe I should be doing that

[subtle zinc]

its not about her dmg, its just the time stop

[buoyant hornet]

Lmaoooo 😭

[carmine reef]

and yeah i'm basically not swapping to amp except for like 1 second to proc lingya real quick

[buoyant hornet]

Ah for dlt timer and stuff?

[buoyant hornet]

Ok good to know so maybe I should stop forcing it then lol

[wispy robin]

snazz manages to pull kal ult each swap

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah he's built different

[subtle zinc]

just like if you have a few seconds you can just swap to her ult late in the run before going back to Luna since AMP buff is something

[buoyant hornet]

I thought that was the norm but seeing most of us struggle with it is 😭😭😭

[river nymph]

[buoyant hornet]

That makes me wonder if ice/fire have the same situation

Like on fire I'll probably struggle a lot to squeeze empy stuff into the cycle

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah

[wispy robin]

fire is way worse
missinput in wata rot = failed run

[visual topaz]

[buoyant hornet]

Boy oh boy I'm looking forward to it 🫠

What about ice is it more lenient?

I mean qu double strong ult should be very easy to do with dlt but idk how wanshi works

[river nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/count-your-days-cat-eye-staring-furious-cat-shaking-eye-gif-12364575787771376135

[visual topaz]

with void wz

i discovered wata stagger

[buoyant hornet]

Can't wait to have swap ice team

Wanshi is genuinely gonna carry my ice to a whole new level even if he's 5* cubless

[river nymph]

uncles age is showing

[visual topaz]

when breaking a void shield with him i get combo-interrupted by either camu swings or rosebald hits

[river nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-grandpa-gif-15302685

[buoyant hornet]

SAME LMAO

[visual topaz]

like litterally w24

i'm deep within the mald

[buoyant hornet]

Camu fcked me up during during a wata rot in void 💀

[deft apex]

You want to know what's funny
Im doing worse with cub equipped

[river nymph]

every lightning strike too

[visual topaz]

[buoyant hornet]

LMAOOOO me too 💀

[visual topaz]

lightning strikes are painge

[wispy robin]

oh yea wata stagger another big issue with lucia
it's basically qu stagger tier

[carmine reef]

[visual topaz]

cuz it triggers my stacks before i get to set a quad blaze

[buoyant hornet]

Screaming rn

[carmine reef]

i put cub skills on and immediately onetapped better than my hours of mald which makes sense

[river nymph]

[wispy robin]

well hes less likely to be staggered than qu but when he do the rot ruined

[buoyant hornet]

Zexlao exactly

[visual topaz]

maybe i could reach w35

[river nymph]

do you guys identify more with tom or jerry

[visual topaz]

Jorry

[river nymph]

terry

[buoyant hornet]

What wave did you reach btw

[visual topaz]

[buoyant hornet]

On leader I hit wave 23 I wonder how much worse hero is

[stray siren]

Jerry

[spiral merlin]

getting my cub right and extra reso managed to get me +300k score back when i malded void it was pretty nice

[visual topaz]

Queso be real

[river nymph]

what is your fav type of cheese?

[stray siren]

Idk how to translate it, Queso añejo with mezcal

[true pivot]

i didnt know luna's team was this input heavy, its honestly quite fun

[carmine reef]

still 19 because that mf is a fatass bear

[buoyant hornet]

It's fun but also really stressful lol

[river nymph]

ooh it looks good

[buoyant hornet]

Always a damn bear blockading our progress

[stray siren]

And tastes very good

[river nymph]

making void shields worth 0 points was an interesting choice

[barren plank]

Paprika on cheese, interesting

[hot rain]

Is Qu Shukra cub worth it?

[barren plank]

No get Luna cub first

[dapper skiff]

And now imagine

Bear with shield

[hot rain]

Already have Luna cub

[barren plank]

Wata cub?

[mint jay]

F@K THAT BEAR

I got to 20 and dipped

[stray siren]

If the enemy of wave 2 and 3 were not bears ( one with shield), this WZ would be easier

[buoyant hornet]

Yep 💀💀💀💀

[compact trout]

I have the 5 star weapon for Lucia Crimson Weave and already she's super powerful, just how powerful will she be when I get her 6 star weapon and is there a way to see what teams are best with her?

[mint jay]

That bear is secretly a top 1 in verse

[true pivot]

is it me or when the shield is down wata still doesnt hit hard on that shieldless enemy

[stray siren]

Other weapons are worth it more

Luna > Qu > Wata > Lamia > CW

[mint jay]

Her weapon is not THAT importand compared to new character's

[compact trout]

I dont' have a single one of those characters

[stray siren]

Then you can get her weapon, but it's not much of a difference

[compact trout]

okay

[compact trout]

I'll probably just save black cards then

[shadow holly]

yes it's on Hanying patch

[shadow holly]

tbf CW weapon is a large jump in damage, I gotta give credit where the credit is due
but not like it will help her in any way when she gets shifted to not being used at all after nanaknight releases

[deft apex]

@wispy robin do you have yata chapter unlocked but not fully not? If possible take a screenshot of that little bc line at the bottom

[river nymph]

[deft apex]

I finally scored 2.1m

[shadow holly]

[barren plank]

Petition for there to be an event where they rerun in-game emojis to be purchased

[deft apex]

Petition to rerun lantern

[barren plank]

I second this

[true pivot]

right now i gotta find a way to rotate luna faster on w20

its so wacky lol

[dapper skiff]

My 0 resos solo run still have better score than swap with R1 wata

[true pivot]

i gotta keep luna running for like 6 whole rounds at the start

kinda goofy

[deft apex]

Solo is the way for this weather i guess

[stray siren]

Yeah, I think I said that because their fate is worse than death

Qte bot

[shadow holly]

liking CW is natural selection

[glass bay]

Is nanaknight really solo

[deft apex]

If you like selena you passed natural selection
Dare I say, aced

[stray siren]

Sixth anniversary

[stray siren]

Yep

[glass bay]

[stray siren]

SS + 1 reso is enough

[barren plank]

B-but game will EoS by then

[normal bluff]

I like wata

[true pivot]

my guild end up missing the 999m sticker for expedition im so malding rn

[stray siren]

Maybe global, I still have my tw account

[vernal portal]

We all like uncle

[stray siren]

[vernal portal]

[tired orbit]

what is EoS?

[normal bluff]

End of service

[barren plank]

End of Service

[stray siren]

End of fanservice

[tired orbit]

what why

[deft apex]

End of seggs

[vernal portal]

End of skeebydee

[dapper skiff]

She does 4 to 5 basic for stacks and hold basic to use stacks for slam, which all of sequence regenerate orbs

[normal bluff]

It's just a joke that goes around here rn

[barren plank]

It's a joke due to they sync plans

[normal bluff]

(but seriously sync patch is a blow to the playerbase)

[tired orbit]

ah ok

[glass bay]

But is it really better than swap

[normal bluff]

Ok I'm gonna play swap teddy now

[deft apex]

Cw is weak af so yea

[glass bay]

[dapper skiff]

Just imagine wata and empy swap

Imagine the dmg diff

[glass bay]

[vernal portal]

Already yowai after nanaknight exist, time to wait new frame

[deft apex]

She's like playing oblivion and then swapping to wata

On a void wz

[stray siren]

Yeah, i mean, it's not a reliable comparison because FL is higher in TW. but is hero

[distant wren]

bro what are you cooking

[tired orbit]

why i should use 3ping before swap out?

[true pivot]

to get ult faster or smthin

[dapper skiff]

[rocky wedge]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1YQs6eoEMi/?spm_id_from=333.788.recommend_more_video.0

[tired orbit]

i just spent 20k resurce curency to get nothing in memory rosonances

[buoyant hornet]

Ty!

[rocky wedge]

i havent found with lilith or nanami yet

[true pivot]

4-

[buoyant hornet]

Honestly this is at least a good reference for the first ion patch

Btw daren doesn't need ss0 to do what's shown in that video right?

[proper loom]

which memory is the best for weapon harmony for luna?

[hazy sandal]

[buoyant hornet]

Cottie

How do I make a bili account lmao

I need to save these videos

[buoyant hornet]

Lol showed up in my feed right after you said that
https://b23.tv/l7HL9zi

[hazy sandal]

You need to solve some otaku weeb questions

To make acc

[buoyant hornet]

What 😭😭

[hazy sandal]

Am not lying

[zenith thorn]

elaborate

[river nymph]

[buoyant hornet]

I'm confused 😭

[stray siren]

Just register your phone number, it's quite simple

[buoyant hornet]

Affix is crazy lmao wave 20 at 1 minute timer with f2p-ish invest

[stray siren]

Use a translator

And search for your country in Chinese on Google Translate, so you can find the country code faster

[carmine reef]

grats but uh

[rocky wedge]

oh nice thanks :0

[carmine reef]

now that i have my cub skills my opinion of what you should score has also gone higher LMAO @deft apex

[rocky wedge]

nope

[carmine reef]

i'm 2.5m now so you should bump yours up as well

[rocky wedge]

as in s0 is fine with 5 star

r1 will help ofc until nanami

or unless u somehow cant give nanami a reso by her release

[dapper skiff]

[rocky wedge]

also after I fixed my clown wep resos on wata and gave luna r2, manage to get this so far in legend

[buoyant hornet]

Ah yes I'm definitely gonna remember these characters

[river nymph]

[dapper skiff]

Just tell him to solo

[tranquil flare]

How many vouchers does it cost to buy 60 shards

[deft apex]

How much now

[carmine reef]

my guess is 2.3-2.4 for you

[buoyant hornet]

Ic so daren as an enabler is fine at misery investment but the sig/r1 stuff is just for better shred?

[deft apex]

How to solo luna

[rocky wedge]

yes

[dapper skiff]

Okay so

[rocky wedge]

when nanami is released then it doesnt matter at all actually

[undone sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-lebron-pregame-scare-illuminati-baphomet-chest-gif-11150358982865413291

[rocky wedge]

besides for dark, cause remember lilith will have higher impact and dark overall if scire has 10% more shred

[zenith thorn]

r1 ss3 daren ion dlt or elem shred

[undone sigil]

Remember to resist temptation people

[rocky wedge]

i would give the shred tbh

[zenith thorn]

guessing still gonna be the same for new dark then

[rocky wedge]

well its ur choice if u dont want to reset as much

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah true, on one of my accs I did snag daren sig thankfully but I'm hesitant to r1 until we know for sure when she's gonna hit the grave

[rocky wedge]

dlt for less mald

[zenith thorn]

just luck sac fr

[rocky wedge]

ye dont give r1 now

[silver shard]

Should I get oblivion SS through PPC or save it for another character first?

[deft apex]

Oh yea which luna cub active for wz/ppc?

[buoyant hornet]

Hoping new dark tank soon to free me from the daren investment confusion nightmare 😭

[rocky wedge]

i mean she is fine at s rank

[buoyant hornet]

Daren has been terrorizing me since release lmao

[silver shard]

Is she bad?

[deft apex]

Vera confirmed dark tank

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah ig so but once lilith is out I'm wondering if she'll hinder the team badly because of no ss3

[rocky wedge]

maybe, she does have a short qte

[buoyant hornet]

Ig I'll just have to extend lamia and/or lilith rots to take up all the field time

[rocky wedge]

so maybe not

[buoyant hornet]

Well yes

[buoyant hornet]

She's a whole dilemma of a character, saying she's bad is an oversimplification

[buoyant hornet]

I WISH

Vera set me free from Daren's clutches I BEG

[stray siren]

I love lamia, but i don't like this skin

[buoyant hornet]

Worst thing about her is she's useless at cd filling too if you're not at proper rotation invest lmao

[cold walrus]

all i want is liv butterfly skin

[stray siren]

I feel like I don't like any 500rc skins, Kuro cooks the 168 rc ones better

[buoyant hornet]

Imagine I end up having to use XXI 😭

[deft apex]

Cooked

[buoyant hornet]

Anyone know chinese I can't find my country's name on bilibili for the life of me

Struggle is real

[normal sierra]

just translate the page brah

[cold walrus]

what's your country?

[buoyant hornet]

It won't let me screenshot 😭

[undone sigil]

Yep it would be over

[buoyant hornet]

Egypt

[stray siren]

Must have a country finder iirc

[cold walrus]

埃及

[normal sierra]

why screenshot? just direct translate the page, any browser should be able to do that in this age and era

[buoyant hornet]

The font on the app looks different from this I couldn't find it lmao 😭

[buoyant hornet]

What's that lol

[stray siren]

I use Internet Explorer

[deft apex]

Doesnt it have a phone thing

Like +(numbers)

[buoyant hornet]

Vera dark tank soon trust

[deft apex]

Bilibili i mean

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah issue is I can't find my country's name to get the right code lol

[deft apex]

Find the right nunber then

Tbf I had an easy time, Portugal is close to the top

[buoyant hornet]

FOUND IT

[dapper skiff]

There are 3 things important about solo Luna

1. you use ult whenever available, at any condition (unless it's a thick wave with shield where u need dash + DV to break through)

2. Use 3p for energy, not for core gauge, if u managed to have enough energy ult with full bar, don't use hold before ult, use it afterwards so u get the energy so u'd need less orb to sustain solo longer

3. Do basic weave after everything you've done with lune besides probably before any ult (if u could it's also good tbh, free orbs), this is how u gonna sustain orbs income

[deft apex]

[dapper skiff]

Using hold basic on ult will give u a matrix orb too

[carmine reef]

@deft apex up to nearly 2.6m now

[buoyant hornet]

I just went unga bunga and spammed all the countries until I saw the right number LMAO

[deft apex]

Wtf hacks

[dapper skiff]

Helps a lot with solo

[zenith thorn]

mf what browser r u using

[silver shard]

So verdict was to leave Oblivion at S and use ppc skulls on someone else right?

[deft apex]

Stop improving

[carmine reef]

keeps improving

[zenith thorn]

even edge have translator

[buoyant hornet]

How to bookmark a discord message

[buoyant hornet]

I'm just using the app on mobile rn 😭

[zenith thorn]

there should be a tool to translate on screen

[dapper skiff]

U Better get that 2.6m then

[carmine reef]

btw the score improvements just keep making the gap between my void and phys funnier and funnier

[undone sigil]

PLEASE REPLACE SCIRE

[deft apex]

My phys is at 1m

[deft apex]

Its so bad lol

[zenith thorn]

89w phys

[deft apex]

Wtf how is your phys even worse than mine

[carmine reef]

what 5* balter does to a mf

[deft apex]

[buoyant hornet]

In the app?

[zenith thorn]

apk

[buoyant hornet]

Yes pls lmao

[buoyant hornet]

I'm sorry the gap is actually so funny 😭

[worthy harbor]

Is feral worth building as sub dps without her Sig and what memories should I put on her?

[buoyant hornet]

Hanying will save your phys soon trust

[deft apex]

Hopefully

1m phys is

[waxen jasper]

Guys i should still use this memory set up for lamia right?it is from grayravens.com

[zenith thorn]

ye

[zenith thorn]

ye

[buoyant hornet]

Not even cracking 1m it's tragic

Tragedy invest

[foggy ridge]

i dont even want to crack 1m with phys LMAO

[visual heath]

Returning player here.

There is a S class selector up to Ayla Kaleido for returning players

I have SS most of my S ranks, I'm missing Nanamech (Starfarer) but I already have Watanabe.

I am stumped to which to choose

[stray siren]

Karen or Bianca SS3

[worthy harbor]

So 4 Fran 2 gui rii but what resonance for bottom

[waxen jasper]

Oki and if idc about swapping memory, should i place cottie at bottom? Ty for the advice

[buoyant hornet]

Try checking out this guy's wz runs maybe it could be a decent reference for you
https://youtu.be/MDu_88jczuw?si=RyQILdeQeWYRNlqP

[buoyant hornet]

@carmine reef

[tiny acorn]

so I have these characters:
crimson abyss, rigor, echo
watanabe

from selector do I get liv empyrea and then use some other A rank to fill fire team, or do I get stigmata to replace CA for a stronger phys team

[visual heath]

Only one copy can get to SS3?

I see

[zenith thorn]

it's hard
you have 3 options
baltet ss3,daren ss3 or kaleido ss3 so you can sss her faster

[worthy harbor]

Isn't bianca becoming a are bot when hanging drops

Qte

[carmine reef]

i don't think i'm bad at phys my invest is genuinely that doomed xd

[zenith thorn]

core

[zenith thorn]

not qte bot
subdps

[stray siren]

Yeah if SS, next rank is SS3 (one copy more), then SSS (3 copies)

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah he also has doomed invest lol

5* phys ss0 team

[zenith thorn]

get empy
amplifier have better usage than atkers

[buoyant hornet]

He somehow consistently gets 1m+

[pure fern]

is rosetta out of meta sooner?

[buoyant hornet]

Sorcery lmao

[buoyant hornet]

For the most part yeah

[stray siren]

It depends, I use her as a QTE bot because my Alisa and Bianca don't have a 6* weapon. But with 6* weapon the team should rotate

[zenith thorn]

next patch

[pure fern]

which one should i get here?

[visual heath]

Thanks for the answers.

[waxen jasper]

@zenith thorn sry for the ping -.-

[zenith thorn]

yep

[pure fern]

im thinking for rosetta but like you guys said she will get bench so

[waxen jasper]

Oh ok then

Ty ty

[dapper skiff]

Cryo's popping with the Dalao aura

[worthy harbor]

We in the same boat then and with my luck with weapons I'm never getting em

[stray siren]

If you don't have Lamia, maybe Luna. The only viable option is Rosetta but she will be replaced the next patch

[foggy ridge]

cryolao

[silver shard]

Should I SS oblivion? Or save ppc skulls for someone else?

[pure fern]

im new player i only have luna oblivion and alpha

[dapper skiff]

Oblivion is the priority rn

[stray siren]

Maybe this can help you https://youtu.be/sWtEsJu7w_4?si=lp70a-3y5EjOmnH4

[buoyant hornet]

Bilibili account successfully created

[buoyant hornet]

The thumbnail 😭😭😭😭

[pure fern]

is this team viable but will replace lamia to luna

[raw swift]

Yeah

[stray siren]

So, Luna Laurel so u can have a Dark attacker

[dapper skiff]

Luna won't replace lamia

Dark ≠ nihil

[tiny acorn]

so should I leap my crimson abyss?

[buoyant hornet]

Wdym

[zenith thorn]

no

[pure fern]

luna dark not nihility

[zenith thorn]

hard NO

[dapper skiff]

Sure then

[buoyant hornet]

Oh yeah ig it is but you're better off using the free sss+ teddy over rozen

Assuming you're a new player you likely don't have SSS rozen

[pure fern]

yea i dont have

[silver shard]

What orb should I use for infinitas awaken oblivion?

[zenith thorn]

she's locked at yellow for first form

it literally doesn't matter

[buoyant hornet]

Go teddy instead, both have base 10% dark dmg buff on their qte
Rozen's becomes 20% at SSS
Teddy's becomes 20% at ss3 (completely free and instantaneous this patch)

[silver shard]

Ahh thats what that dies gotcha

[pure fern]

which one good to get first here ?

[buoyant hornet]

Imo echo

[dapper skiff]

Alisa

[pure fern]

is she good with oblivion?

[buoyant hornet]

And if possible try to rush the missions since this is a x3 patch

[dapper skiff]

Get tonitoris from the free 6* weapon selector for her

[dapper skiff]

No

[zenith thorn]

you could also just save for sss wanshi too

[dapper skiff]

But she's important for any phys unit

[pure fern]

what missions?

[buoyant hornet]

If possible you could login twice a day to do all missions for all the extra currency

[pure fern]

weekly?

[buoyant hornet]

Dorm commisions

[pure fern]

oh yea im rushing that also

[wispy robin]

btw i asked setsu and he said 3red 1orange is 100% better

[pure fern]

i see

then soon to be sub dps for selena

[stray siren]

Omg

There must be a reason

[sand flume]

Teddy good?

[stray siren]

I need to read her whole kit again

[sand flume]

[stray siren]

Better than Vera SSS as support

[pure fern]

im planning to get watanabe fire tank on selector is she good?

[river nymph]

[stray siren]

Yeah, best waifu

[sand flume]

Oh ok

[pure fern]

whut

[sand flume]

She

[raw swift]

She's best girl

[buoyant hornet]

Wtf are orange and green orbs what game is this 😭😭😭

[pure fern]

oh my bad

im thinking of QU

[raw swift]

Yeah he's good

[pure fern]

fk

[buoyant hornet]

Yes indeed

[stray siren]

Yeah, she is the best tank atm

[raw swift]

You probably shouldn't get qu rn

[wispy robin]

also he said your og rot was good 🐴

[pure fern]

yea i heard she is expensive character

[dapper skiff]

Quelao

[stray siren]

[zenith thorn]

watanabe is a male btw

anyhow ye,top priority pick with versatile usage

[buoyant hornet]

I wanna try something crazy in void wz

Btw I just realized

[pure fern]

yea i just mixed up watanabe and QU

[zenith thorn]

oh

then no

[buoyant hornet]

If I don't get sig wanshi I might have to keep using 4shakes wata in void......

[pure fern]

any reason why?

[zenith thorn]

she's good

but epitaph is a bigger priority

[pure fern]

ohh

[wispy robin]

you better get qu on selector reset on ish patch, wanshi going to carry your ice fine till then
meanwhile lucia solo unplayable

[pure fern]

when that selector reset?

[zenith thorn]

ishmael patch

[pure fern]

ohh

[zenith thorn]

maybe mid 2025

[pure fern]

too far huh

[buoyant hornet]

Hard to say exactly because we don't know how the patch merges are laid out

[wispy robin]

han + wanshi -> lcuia + yata -> nanami + ish

[buoyant hornet]

By pgr standards no it's pretty soon-ish considering synchro

[pure fern]

i see

we will sync until selena patch?

[buoyant hornet]

Btw is it just flat out better to pull nanami from the special banner instead of debut?

Because of synchro I mean

[wispy robin]

ofc, higher chance for early

[zenith thorn]

until we finally caught up to cn
approx q4 2025

[pure fern]

i see

then lots of $ to spend every patch

[buoyant hornet]

Perfect also any other good rewards in the banner?

[wispy robin]

ton of usbs

[buoyant hornet]

Red or wep?

[wispy robin]

memo

[buoyant hornet]

Well I'll take that

[wispy robin]

also ht mats iirc

[buoyant hornet]

Neat

[waxen jasper]

Also why is build switching easier when placing two set memories in top slots? I am not very good with game mechanics so it would be great if someone is kind enough to explain it to me

[wispy robin]

it's more about using the same placement pattern for all your characters

[waxen jasper]

Ohhh

[shadow holly]

also because bottom memories give ATK
so if you use a different 2p set and can't afford to hypertune it, you don't lose too much damage

[waxen jasper]

Basically for self qol thing i assume

Ah ic ic

[wispy robin]

if you put ein in tank's top slots, do it for all tanks so you can switch if needed

[buoyant hornet]

This + it makes the need for hypertunes less of a problem if you're switching mems on a DPS

[waxen jasper]

Ic ic noted!

[buoyant hornet]

Bottom row hypertunes are much more important than top row since they directly buff atk stat

[waxen jasper]

Ic ic thank u all for explaining guys

[buoyant hornet]

@rocky wedge this whole channel seems dedicated to ss0 ion or something 😭😭
【群怪丢伤太严重？2S无辅助机小露带你把批英雄400W-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/Nvjif3X

[sacred void]

Hi has anyone have new updated tierlist?

[wispy robin]

new>old

[shadow holly]

there is no tier list and never will be
all meta characters have their own specific roles, and the newest char in each role is always the best in it by far

[buoyant hornet]

Lmao new units are so simple 😭

[shadow holly]

there is the spreadsheet listing all the optimal units for each team from zexous in the pins

[buoyant hornet]

Remember in the transition period between gen 1 and 2 where some new units were actually ass

[zenith thorn]

globlul lecturing empress :lmaocry:

[trail finch]

Why does Intensive PPC show 3 bosses but when I click on challenge all 3 stages say "Trailblazer intensive battle"?

[buoyant hornet]

Those are just potential bosses

[shadow holly]

because the first image is just the current possible pool of bosses in onslaught

[buoyant hornet]

Only one per week

[stiff elm]

Time to brick?

[buoyant hornet]

That aside, tbh I never considered the ult endlag thing

[stiff elm]

I should bust all my pulls on fate arrival

[raw swift]

What is pgr daily reset time

[buoyant hornet]

Bestie what is alisa doing in void team

[zenith thorn]

0800(?) server time

[dapper skiff]

Dunno your timezone

But reset is in 4h and 25m more

[stiff elm]

1:00 AMCDT or like 2:00 PM in vietnam

[buoyant hornet]

Alisa's buffs are exempt from Luna's buff conversion

[raw swift]

Aight thx

[trail finch]

My only other SSS amp is Ayla

[zenith thorn]

nvm 0500 server time

[zenith thorn]

USE YOUR KALEIDO

[buoyant hornet]

The game never clarifies it but in-game the word "elemental" means not-physical

[buoyant hornet]

Well that's literally the best option lmao

[dapper skiff]

[zenith thorn]

Luna can't be benefited from alisa

[river nymph]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1139425181010509894/1282166616335061063/1724290472754450.gif

[dapper skiff]

Bro's been missing ou

[shadow holly]

tbf they're prob better using their cow for the ice run

though onslaught is onetap anyway

[dapper skiff]

Lucky u asked before reset

[trail finch]

why can't the game tell you this? what makes her buffs not convertible?

[vale raft]

Luna: Oblivion

Skill - Class Passive (Lv. 18)

Annihilator

Extra DMG Bonus increases by 20.0%. Elemental Resistance Reduction and DMG Increase applied by any member will become universally effective for all elements.

[shadow holly]

being physical

[dapper skiff]

elemental

[buoyant hornet]

Because she's physical and physical is a weird "element"

[dapper skiff]

Physical isn't a weird elemental

[buoyant hornet]

It's not an actual element we just call it that lol

[dapper skiff]

Phys is NOT elemental

[trail finch]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-robin-hsr-luckressi-star-rail-gif-3563792315816354069

[buoyant hornet]

^^^

[shadow holly]

but uh yeah it's whatever onslaught with SS invest is non competitive anyway

[dapper skiff]

End it all

[zenith thorn]

wantap fr

[shadow holly]

oh judging from ur BP Luna is SSS

[trail finch]

Can I use Ayla in the Ice stage afterwards? there's no action points system in intensive battle?

[shadow holly]

she'll be able to do at least something

[zenith thorn]

oh nah u cant
u have empy ot other amp

[shadow holly]

there is no AP system but the units used are locked to the stage

[zenith thorn]

feral?

[shadow holly]

but you can redo the runs infinitely

[buoyant hornet]

Tbh it literally doesn't matter just make sure to not use alisa with void whenever in void wz

[zenith thorn]

redo runs?
just reset :clueless:

[trail finch]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-the-voices-robin-robin-hsr-robin-honkai-gif-11122319727201403470

[buoyant hornet]

Me trying to figure out void wz

[hot rain]

I don't have Watanabe
And I don't know how to get him

[barren plank]

Get him from the base banner selector

[trail finch]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-robin-hsr-hsr-honkai-star-rail-vrchat-gif-7350755098757630960

[hot rain]

Used that on someone else 😕

[carmine reef]

@deft apex ok i'm done now

[shadow holly]

https://tenor.com/view/explode-terminator-fire-explosion-skeleton-gif-16779623

[barren plank]

Bricked

Anyways just save from hereon out

[shadow holly]

ur cooked
you won't have him

[hot rain]

So should I go for him on the 70 up banner

[barren plank]

No

[trail finch]

I think I used Alisa in WZ, but I was so sleepy that I don't even remember, that would explain why my score was weird

[hot rain]

Can't blame a new player for the lack of knowledge

[hot rain]

Why?

[zenith thorn]

what we can blame is you not asking around and making stupid decisions :lmaocry:

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah lol alisa gives nothing but half of her amp passive in this case 😭

[barren plank]

Not worth it to backpull for old characters in this game
Also it's not 100% rateup

[hot rain]

I see

[barren plank]

Anyways, given my account guys idk who to get from the selector anymore, what should I do?
https://huaxu.app/ap/players/14107661/characters

[zenith thorn]

get tenebrion

[barren plank]

I was thinking Balter SS3? But it seems useless w Hanying and hr being given for free anways+Selena

[zenith thorn]

nah same as always
ss3 baltet,ss3 daren or ss3 kaleido so you can sss her cheaper amd faster

that's it

[barren plank]

I could get SS6 Kaleido but I have no way to SSS her afterwards

Im super low on skulls

And Im hoarding vouchers rn

[zenith thorn]

spend money on bps so you can get vouchers

[cold walrus]

im stupid, can someone explain sss alisa rot? it's so confused after playing non sss alisa

[zenith thorn]

:clueless:

[barren plank]

Im not spending money on this game anymore

[barren plank]

It's the same, you just need to use less 3pings

[odd quest]

Empy build

[peak crater]

Which one is the best for crimson weaver? (Her cub skills)

[barren plank]

4DV 2Eins

[zenith thorn]

dv guin

[shadow holly]

2x3, core, ult, core, 3p swap out
if not enough energy to ult after first core do another one

[barren plank]

Lightning damage and the special passive at the bottom

[zenith thorn]

45 skill

[peak crater]

Thank you both

[dapper skiff]

It's changing throughout the runs

But what u do is u do the usual hold basic and 3p to full gauge, 1 ping for core chain

After that you just spam more 3p to get enough energy for ult

Same for the rotation afterwards

[zenith thorn]

oh ss
345

[distant wren]

just do one 3p after pinging ghost orbs on your swap in (starter should get you 1/3 core gauge already, swap in another 1/3)
then do both her cores, 3p, ult, swap out

rinse and repeat

[sly geyser]

just ss3 stigmata smh

[barren plank]

Imma get SS3 for free anyways from Pyroath patch

[sly tinsel]

returning player here. what is this 4 star thingy again? and where is it from? sorry, forgot

[dapper skiff]

Harmony

[barren plank]

Don't use that, it's for harmonzation

[distant wren]

sss is aight but ss alisa rot is super bricked tho

[barren plank]

Very important

[sly tinsel]

harmony?

[zenith thorn]

apinning disc
ae5 and crash reflection

[barren plank]

Lets u add 2pc memeory set to a weapon

[dapper skiff]

Just zigzag bro

[sly geyser]

some vouchers and boom she's 3s

[dapper skiff]

Duracell is the one that adds 2pc

[sly geyser]

trueslash goddess

[barren plank]

Those vouchers are meant for Lilith and Wanshi

[dapper skiff]

Without dat u can't have it

[barren plank]

He asked what harmony was

[sly geyser]

oh c'mon, ur swiping thrice anyway

[true pivot]

lamia is still the top dps of dark team or lilith

[barren plank]

No im not

[sly tinsel]

🤔

[sly geyser]

[barren plank]

Ive gone F2P again

[zenith thorn]

lillith
by a small margin

[sly geyser]

dayum

[true pivot]

thank god

[barren plank]

Kevin gited me BP so that's the last time im ever using RC again

[true pivot]

thats balancing done properly

[sly geyser]

[tacit ridge]

Uh reason why balter memo changed from Charlotte to Patton?

[pine slate]

Wtf whel

[pine slate]

Only for ss3

[sly geyser]

ss3 and above build

[pine slate]

And next update she changes to 4 Charlotte 2 cath 2 Patton

[tacit ridge]

Mhh I see

[true pivot]

no point in getting 3s balter i guess, since miss "not playing the piano" is coming soon

[zenith thorn]

wait i can just reuse rigor cath

[sly geyser]

she's not trueslash tho

goodluck

[true pivot]

doesnt hanying carry her ass anyways

[pine slate]

And the update after the next update, she uses 4 Patton 2 cath 2 Darwin or smth

That's for trueslash

[barren plank]

4 charlotte for phys

[pine slate]

Ye

[barren plank]

Instead of patton

[zenith thorn]

least complicated balter set

[pine slate]

And phys can't use Darwin unless sss

[true pivot]

wait am i cooked

[barren plank]

Tho darwin is only for SSS in phys, below she uses lee/signa

[polar coyote]

what is the extra damage bonus?

[peak crater]

I'm sorry but besides 45 of those 3 which one is the best?

[sly geyser]

u should rotate with her

[barren plank]

Extra damage the character does

[pine slate]

4 and 5

[zenith thorn]

3rd skill,4th skill and 5th skill

[true pivot]

true

[pine slate]

That's what he meant

[zenith thorn]

I'm assuming you have ss pet

[peak crater]

Thank you

[peak crater]

I do

[zenith thorn]

since 3 skills on top right

[true pivot]

so i gotta get new mems for balter then?

[zenith thorn]

yes

[true pivot]

darn

that is gonna be a pain to run

[tacit ridge]

I feel you

[zenith thorn]

a relatively huge multiplier in dmg calculations

edb is always good

[barren plank]

Do coating stories have story spoilers

[zenith thorn]

somewhat

[true pivot]

whats with patton being better than charlotte for trueslash anyways? is it to buff hanying?

[sly geyser]

yes

wait no

it's a shred set

[distant wren]

it's for her own dmg, since she doesn't use swordwaves or relies on core

which is what charlotte buffs

also trueslash she uses 12 atk resos btw

[sly geyser]

ez

she'll have like 2 patton sets just because of that

[true pivot]

does her leap not get buffs from charlotte?

the trueslash part

[distant wren]

no

[sly geyser]

just use the bot smh

[true pivot]

thats awful, heck

[polar coyote]

good thing is i got her to SSS so now i just need to level her and get her stuff.

not sure hoiw a tank works though

[sly geyser]

just unga bunga smh

[true pivot]

balter trueslash also needs crits right?

[sly geyser]

what crit?

crit is already from alisa

[true pivot]

doesnt she need to run atkcrt reso at least?

[sly geyser]

nope

let alisa cook

[true pivot]

12atk reso huh

[pine slate]

U don't need crit reso

[sly geyser]

any atk will work just fine

[hot rain]

Btw @barren plank I was looking at some stuff and it seems like I can use Lilith and Ishmael in the meantime until Watanabe is on a 100% rerun banner even if they won't be here soon on global.
I'm also checking the roadmap as well.
So far it seems the only team that I'll have every character for is Ice and probably electric.

[analog cargo]

wdym,u need,u need the idk,how low is it like 20% that it gives

[pine slate]

12 crit reso = 150 crit which is like 4-5%

[zealous mantle]

for Luna void, i swap then 3 ping > hold basic > then press Ult
but sometimes it triggers the weaker alt Ult mode.. any tips to avoid this?

[pine slate]

[analog cargo]

ye u need it

[pine slate]

K whel

[sly geyser]

5% crit while alisa gives u a 100

[pine slate]

She gives 75%

[zenith thorn]

uhn ashkually 75

[analog cargo]

good times when we woudnt do top cuz it was waste of mats

[zenith thorn]

so u incorrect

[sly geyser]

u guys are forgetting signa smh

[analog cargo]

u hold after ult

not before ult

the 2nd ult then u do before

[true pivot]

she doesnt get buffed by ba reso as well huh...

[analog cargo]

[true pivot]

thats weird...

[zealous mantle]

so Swap to Luna > 3 ping > tap Ult > hold basic?

[true pivot]

so this is her ts then

[dapper skiff]

Wym trigger weaker ult

The hold ult?

When she change mode

[summer topaz]

tap ult

[analog cargo]

yep

did u not watch empress video

[zealous mantle]

I mean the Ult 1 has an alternate mode that gets triggerred when i TAP ult too fast after initial swap

[dapper skiff]

U accidentally hold it

Lol

It won't proc with tap

U Just need to calm down a bit

[summer topaz]

it will register as a hold if you held on the ult button for like half a sec

[analog cargo]

classic kuro

[summer topaz]

i had this problem and had to retrain my brain to just tap

[sly geyser]

or if ur game freezes at that specific moment

[trail finch]

This is actually ridiculous just how little people do we have playing this mode?

[sly geyser]

they're like 3

1 in eu

560k in cn ur like top 70-80%

[zealous mantle]

ayt. thanks !

S Wanshi has bigger impact than Luna void pet?

[carmine reef]

i have like 550k in na and i'm 82% LMAO

[sly geyser]

10k diff huge gap lmao

[pine slate]

[zenith thorn]

i see asia when i see one

[frosty gust]

yall what do i do for memory resonance
i wanna unlock luna oblivion's ultima awakennig

[zenith thorn]

top any 15atk
bottom ult/signature

[sly geyser]

hypertune

[zenith thorn]

that's infinitas

[sly geyser]

wait it's ultima

lol

[frosty gust]

get memory dupes from event shop?

[sly geyser]

yes

[frosty gust]

noted noted, wasnt sure what to do

[barren plank]

Are u playing on CN servers?

[zenith thorn]

use red usb when you have one for ultimate resonances

[sly geyser]

nah just trust the rng

[frosty gust]

i have two, what are ultimate resonances for

[dapper skiff]

Just do 12 random resonance first for Ultima awakening

[frosty gust]

okayy

[zenith thorn]

more dmg on ultimate

[hot rain]

Uh nope

[true pivot]

patton kinda goofy

[sly geyser]

is she ss3?

[true pivot]

yea

[sly geyser]

oh wait

ur using trueslash set

[true pivot]

yep

[sly geyser]

[true pivot]

was just memeing

[sly geyser]

so don't be surprised

[true pivot]

i have 0 hypertune mats

cause my bloody ayla took all of it

[sly geyser]

big L

wym ur bloody ayla ?

[zenith thorn]

dis u ht kale..?

[sly geyser]

don't tell me u ht a dv set

[sly geyser]

ain't no pakin way

why even ?

[sly geyser]

atk ?

she's a qte bot bro

[true pivot]

does it not buff the mem atk, which by her amp, buffs allies with her atk

[sly geyser]

k whel

[true pivot]

bruh

[sly geyser]

those are minor optimizations that only a whel can care about

f2ps on the other hand

[true pivot]

i just wanna sweat regardless

[sly geyser]

🐳

[analog cargo]

u dont?

are u poor or som

[rocky wedge]

my f2p ayla has full ht dv set

[analog cargo]

most of my dv sets are full ht

[sly geyser]

poor af

fund me smh

[distant wren]

it... buffs the qte dmg, doesn't affect amp buff at all

[dapper skiff]

Atk only affects the heal numbers

Not the buff numbers

[distant wren]

yeah and heal amount lol

[carmine reef]

it affects the buff amount if you have amp reso

[sly geyser]

whel behaviour smh

[true pivot]

so this is a lie

[distant wren]

that's from class skill resos tho

[true pivot]

darn

[barren plank]

Wanna build dps Zitherwoe for shits and giggles, what to put on her? 4Patton 2Darwin?

[distant wren]

atk resos and ht don't do that

[sly geyser]

the 12.06% atk is not from her memories

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936177246018895882/1322031512710811760/1263735698985586709.gif

[true pivot]

damn then that was a waste of hypertunes

[distant wren]

that +7, 1 is from border pact, the other 6 is from class skill bottom resos

[sly geyser]

seems like it

[distant wren]

🧱

[sly geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936177246018895882/1322031512710811760/1263735698985586709.gif

[true pivot]

i thought getting ayla's mem atk up would increase the base atk from class passive

that sucks