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[deft apex]

kaleido

[carmine reef]

Oh ok thats fine

I'm using feral so basically the same

[deft apex]

my empy is better invest though

[carmine reef]

I tried feyer's account but he has empy

[tranquil flare]

Soo question

[carmine reef]

It felt so bad

[deft apex]

she has r1

[tranquil flare]

Teddy at sss buffs scire damage

[carmine reef]

Lowkey not even sure its worth to r1 empy

Cause it messes with your dv timing to use empy

[deft apex]

she's been r1 for a while now so doesn't matter

[tranquil flare]

So isn't Teddy+ scire good for void

[carmine reef]

No

Its not even good for dark really

[tranquil flare]

Hmm

What team are you using for void wz

[carmine reef]

Daren is not subdps viable in void, so if you're running daren teddy it's luna solo

Which is obviously not good

[fresh plover]

okay am i missing something about intensive battle ppc

[carmine reef]

Rn wata is the only viable subdps in void

[tranquil flare]

Idk what's obvious or not

[carmine reef]

Fair enough

[tranquil flare]

I run teddy and scire and got 1.5 million

[fresh plover]

because i'm sweating my ass off for not even getting close to a decent position

[carmine reef]

Void wz team ideally is luna, wata, and ideally feral or kaleido

[tranquil flare]

Why feral or kaleido over empy

Or Capri

[carmine reef]

Remember, intensive battle is competing against the top scorers from exppc lol

Dont try to mald rank in there unless you're a whale

[deft apex]

is feral > kaleido? she's same invest as my kaleido if that matters

[carmine reef]

Empy is viable but worse because slow qte and poor range

Capri not viable bc she's locked to 4 seraphine just to have a buff

Alisa not viable bc phys doesnt work with luna

[carmine reef]

Basically the same

Kaleido slightly faster eins

[opaque ridge]

my void team, what do you think?

[raw swift]

I see a pattern

[deft apex]

omg cute teddy skin

[languid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/quite-small-blowfish-jerry-seinfeld23hours-to-kill-tiny-really-small-gif-17054250

[tranquil flare]

My feral is running sig+ guin

[opaque ridge]

ok i found a better team

[tranquil flare]

Do I need to change her to dv

[carmine reef]

Yes

[serene siren]

3 boomers

[tranquil flare]

Dv ein?

[raw swift]

Now do the Gray Ravens

[carmine reef]

Dv eins yes

And guin on harmo

[fresh plover]

fair enough

[carmine reef]

Or other way around

Doesn't matter

[foggy ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/arona-blue-archive-uwoogh-gif-26764513

[raw swift]

There's quite a few units that have 3 frames actually

[tranquil flare]

This her permanent set?

[obtuse shuttle]

if i get alpha's upcoming gacha coating could i still get ishmael

[raw swift]

No

[carmine reef]

In void yeah

[mint jay]

What's Feral build for Void team?

[carmine reef]

And in light soon

[raw swift]

4dv 2eins

[tranquil flare]

What if not void

[carmine reef]

Bruh please read

[tranquil flare]

What if pain cage or norman

[carmine reef]

Ppc also dv

[tranquil flare]

Okay

[carmine reef]

Feral is dv unless onfielding and doing significant damage, which lowkey isnt until ss3

[tranquil flare]

Mine is ss3

[carmine reef]

Then you can run fran guin in light wz until nanami comes out

But all other situations is dv

[feral pollen]

wot if sss

[tranquil flare]

There's light wz out?

[carmine reef]

I just mean in general

[tranquil flare]

Oh lightning

[carmine reef]

Lightning wz is the only time she will be using fran

[tranquil flare]

I'm dumb

I thought it was a new element

[carmine reef]

:EvilLiv:

What the

[tranquil flare]

I forget it's lightning I call it electric and think light is just light

[carmine reef]

Light is closer to lightning than void is to nihil

[feral pollen]

there's dark team but not light kuroscammed

[tranquil flare]

Idk why they change it nihil void sound so much better

[carmine reef]

Glb been making all their localizations worse lately

Intensive battle KEK

[tranquil flare]

Also

I take back what I sad

Alisa is not that bad

[carmine reef]

Why's that look like ben from vldl

[tranquil flare]

Echo kinda decent

I still like Luna more

But I can play echo a little better now

[barren plank]

Can I get higher score anymore I wanna stay on the Top100 leaderboard

Im exactly 100 in hero rn

[carmine reef]

Whel

[barren plank]

Whel how tho

[deft apex]

ss3 epitaph

[barren plank]

No?

[tranquil flare]

2.5 million!!!!!

[deft apex]

watapak

[tranquil flare]

[barren plank]

Just 300 points short of 2.6

[tranquil flare]

How many waves!

I ended in wave 18

[barren plank]

I managed to push to start of Wave20 at 0:01

[tranquil flare]

But how is the point difference so big

[barren plank]

Prolly would have gotten 2.61 if I pushed for a hold ult at the end

[carmine reef]

What's up with the sea scoring

[tranquil flare]

I got 1.5 million

In wave 18

[barren plank]

Different wz difficulty

[untold drift]

who should I choose for newbie selector?

[carmine reef]

I'm 2.34m at start of wave 19 and we're both in hero

Smh sea inflated score

[tranquil flare]

Oh NVM

[barren plank]

What's the fluc

[carmine reef]

188 i think

[tranquil flare]

I'm vanguard

[barren plank]

Actually no I got about the same score at wave 19

[tranquil flare]

That's why point diff

[carmine reef]

Its actually entirely different even disregarding point diff

If you were in hero with us you would probably get like 0.5m

Cause the mobs get tankier

[tranquil flare]

I see

Well

I just score top of my team

[sinful anvil]

bruh this hero bracket is is 6m minimum just to defend

[tranquil flare]

On both void and physical

[carmine reef]

Aint no way

[tranquil flare]

So I will move up rank?

Next week?

[barren plank]

@carmine reef SEA fluc is 182

[carmine reef]

If you are in the promotion bracket

Then you will move up to elite next rot

[tranquil flare]

Ohh

What if I'm in defense bracket

[carmine reef]

Lower fluc and higher score sea really is the easiest smh

If you're defending then you stay vanguard

[barren plank]

Yea this cycle is surprisingly dead

[carmine reef]

Promotion is go up, defend is stay, demotion is go down

[barren plank]

There are still 3 people that haven't done WZ yet in my bracket

[scarlet python]

Does anyone know if a SSS ishmael would be used over SSS luna in any PPC bosses?

[tranquil flare]

How many times do I need to score high to get promoted

[barren plank]

You need both for a funcitoning void team

[carmine reef]

Its every rot

[lean spire]

I noticed i got a weapon ticket so im pondering which weapon to get from these characters

[carmine reef]

If you're in promotion at the end of the rot you promote

[barren plank]

Ishmael needs Luna to do any damage due to how their classes work

[carmine reef]

If you're in demotion at the end of the rot you demote

[barren plank]

Luna's
Also that team does not work at all

[scarlet python]

I know. But if I had both and they were both SSS, would she ever be doing the damage in PPC?

[carmine reef]

The only exception is promoting from hero to legend, which requires 100 merit

[barren plank]

I would assume Ishmael yea

[lean spire]

not a team, i just put them there to show em

[barren plank]

Ah ok lol

[tranquil flare]

It's kinda hard to hit million on physical

[unborn star]

So main question is Ishmael DPS 1st or plain outright Omni support that can exchange job between tank/amp?

[carmine reef]

DPS isnt a strict role in pgr

Every new character is a dps by virtue of having the damage to justify the fieldtime

[random cobalt]

Are we eosing yet

[carmine reef]

Also if you have a developed account, ish will only be tank

[unborn star]

I may misinterpreted my question,does her DPS output comparable to actual latest gen attacker like soleater, shukra and feesh

[carmine reef]

She has the capability to be amp but you wont be using that option unless your account is lopsided invest

[carmine reef]

Solaeter is neither latest gen nor attacker but yes

[unborn star]

[carmine reef]

She's stronger than all of those

[unborn star]

I don't meant lorewise ...

[carmine reef]

I don't either

LMAO

Why would you assume i meant lore

[unborn star]

Meta wise Ishmael must be shiet

[carmine reef]

???

No??

[unborn star]

[tranquil flare]

New gens always hit harder than old

[carmine reef]

Are you just trolling or what

[tranquil flare]

Don't they?

[random cobalt]

Wanshi got the male debuff

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/ishmael-pgr-ishmael-pgr-pgr-ishmael-punishing-gray-raven-gif-16510664088489648833

[untold drift]

when will her patch btw

[remote pier]

who knows

[unborn star]

I hope they release a husbando surpassing every top tier DPS in pgr somewhere in future,it gonna be peak

[scarlet python]

Assuming both are SS, does Ishmael score higher than Luna in their PPC bosses?

[carmine reef]

They did do that

It was in October and his name was watanabe

[carmine reef]

At ss0 probably not

[unborn star]

Only uncle is the anomaly in pgr that surprise everyone. Husbando that isn't calcharo tier

[carmine reef]

I think ish starts hitting power spike from ss3 on

[scarlet python]

how about when they're both SS3?

[carmine reef]

Well luna ss3 is ass so

Ish lol

[raw swift]

Tell me y

[unborn star]

I dunno,my guts feeling tell me

[thorn creek]

nah ur constipated

eat more fibers in ur diet

am doctor trust

[raw swift]

Male debuff is not real. Epitaph literally crept all chara so much on release

[carmine reef]

Speak for urself

U only eat fishy fish

[stoic glade]

Hmm, for this Nihil warzone how's 2.69m for score? (NA server)
Invest: 222.3 (Feral) 115* 110, luna and wata both have cub at SS

Curious if I'm playing it right.

[unborn star]

Thank you for friendly reminder I must be not feeling well to slander godlike being from pgrverse

🥹♿

[raw swift]

Ask your guts to tell me please.

[thorn creek]

in a way

[carmine reef]

What division

[stoic glade]

Hero

[carmine reef]

Quite good

[untold drift]

who to choose in beginner selection banner?

[stoic glade]

none of my amps have sig besides alisa lol

[stoic glade]

ok cool, ty wanted to check

[carmine reef]

It doesn't really matter

Feral's qte is also fast, the difference is minimal between those two

Its more noticeable comparing to empy

Dat bih slow af

[thorn creek]

no problem

[stoic glade]

mainly used feral over ayla just cause feral has 6 class resos all set and my ayla doesn't yet, probably should do that tho

[raw swift]

Get well soon

[tranquil flare]

Is is better to use empy for qte if she has 2 resos vs feral 1 reso

[carmine reef]

Hard to say

[tranquil flare]

My empy has super conducting and sometimes else

[carmine reef]

Theoretically empy but based on my experience playing another account with empy, her slow qte is really bad to play with in void

[tranquil flare]

My feral only has super

[carmine reef]

Personally I'd just do ferap

[tranquil flare]

Ok

Thx

[carmine reef]

Cause empy qte is so slow you probably miss her debuffs on first hit of ult2

[tranquil flare]

Well phone on 2%

[stoic glade]

hmmhmm good to know tho ty

[tranquil flare]

Bye

[raw swift]

I think empy still had it better than hyperreal imagine your tank take main dps position 2 patch later

[carmine reef]

He had it in beta

[raw swift]

Forever trap in qte and in a few patch pyroath will kick him even from qte

[silver shard]

How much BC should I save for next patch to get all the characters they'll be adding? Its multiple S ranks next right?

[lean spire]

i only have these cubes, which should i get? or should i wait for a future one?

[raw swift]

Lucid dreamer is from dispatch shop

[carmine reef]

Who knows
We thought so but now some people are saying they're going to copy jp order and just do hanying patch by itseld

[frozen creek]

Get guardrake

[carmine reef]

And then triple patch after

[river nymph]

[nova forum]

F2p friendly game btw

[river nymph]

[frozen creek]

Very F2P friendly

Get 3s3 wanshi for rights

[nova forum]

Doesn't JP get hanying-wanshi-pyro patch?

[raw swift]

I am very happy lucid dreamer is on disp shop

[lean spire]

what does it do btw?

[carmine reef]

Jp had hanying, and then wanshi lucia yata iirc

[raw swift]

Hanying and pyro in 1 patch f2p gonna die

[nova forum]

Good

[raw swift]

F2p turn into "f2p"

[frozen creek]

Pretty much buffs ult2 damage by 25%

It’s the only current void cub though

[lean spire]

thats pretty good ngl

[frozen creek]

Ult2 makes up most of her damage so yeah

[scarlet python]

does anyone have a video of Ishmael being used in PPC?

[silver shard]

So worst case next patch ill need 30k since wanshi is free best cast ill need 15k next patch and 30k patch after??

[frozen creek]

Still a bit cloudy because pyroath and Yata might be double patch too

It honestly depends on whether kuro wants more triple patches for whatever reason

[silver shard]

Ight well let me ask a different question, im f2p and used a bunch of the bc i got from this patch to get oblivion. Will i still be able to get every unit without sigs or cubs even if they do double/triple patches?

[frozen creek]

Yes if you don’t waste anymore you should be able to

[hallow vector]

Hello, new F2P player ... is Oblivion a good starting point for a new account? How hard are her best in slot partners to get? Still haven't selected free S-Rank

[frozen creek]

You get around 30k per patch and at most so far there will only be max 2 paid S ranks per triple patch

[frozen creek]

Yes

[lean spire]

in a vaccum she is probably the strongest character right now

[frozen creek]

Spend all your bc and yellow tickets getting one oblivion copy from themed

Get watanabe epitaph from the base banner S selector as one of her teammates

And 3rd slot you can get ayla kaleido from dorm commission currency for free

[lean spire]

thats 3 elements and a solid meta team, cant think of a better start

[hallow vector]

That's right?

[frozen creek]

Yes

[hallow vector]

Thank you so much 🙂

[frozen creek]

Np

[hallow vector]

And mthen 60 pulls on her banner

[frozen creek]

60 pulls on oblivion banner yes

[frozen creek]

Also make sure you ONLY spend blue tickets on watanabe

Don’t waste black cards on base banner

[silver shard]

Any way to get more? Im at 20/60 and got none left 🫡

[frozen creek]

I’m pretty sure there’s quite a lot of newbie missions

They give a lot but you have to wait and complete them

[silver shard]

Im a returning player been gone for a long time

[frozen creek]

You get a bunch from logging in too

[silver shard]

So no newbie missions available

[frozen creek]

Oh then you’re gonna have to wait a bit lol

You pretty much only get them from logging in or doing certain event missions and operation guardians every week

[hallow vector]

@frozen creek os Can you show me where in the Dorm I can find the unit?

[frozen creek]

Wdym

[little flame]

Commissions
Send your characters to complete AFK missions, then buy shards from commission shop

[frozen creek]

If you wanna assign members to dorm rooms there should be a ‘members’ button at the bottom

[silver shard]

Tragic, heard we're getting another "free" S rank from base banner later down the road. Will they supply blue tickets when that happens or same deal??

[thorn sundial]

what should i take from this ?

[frozen creek]

I’m not sure I’m really not caught up with cn other than units dropping

[frozen creek]

Who did you pick from the character selector

[lean spire]

just save, you will get that eventually

[glass bay]

[frozen creek]

And unfortunate you’ll have to find a way to get 40 blue pulls before Ishmael patch comes and the S rank choice resets

[lean spire]

[frozen creek]

You love all the phat characters you phat whel

[vast dove]

Sometimes when I play Qu the hold dodge that should trigger the 2nd fast ult doesn't happen, she just dodges normally. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

I'm doing fast ult > slow ult > 3ping > 1 ping > hold dodge.

But the hold dodge doesn't trigger her ice rain thingy

[glass bay]

if u call her fat again i will find u

[hallow vector]

I only see that

[thorn sundial]

i don't remember, i have laurel and entropy, but if one of them can be useful later it's good

[frozen creek]

Matrix needs to be available

No matrix = no fast ult trigger

[vast dove]

Ohh ty, just need to do more basics then, ty

[frozen creek]

Pick ozma for laurel

[silver shard]

Worst case ill just spend some BC when it gets close. Im super behind on story so im sure i can spare some

[wispy robin]

Bow for alisa

[thorn sundial]

should i play her since i have oblivion ?

[frozen creek]

Laurel is for dark team and oblivion is for nihil team but

If you have well invested oblivion and void team she can probably out damage laurel in dark zone

[wispy robin]

Laurel is dead even teddy do more dmg than her

[frozen creek]

Basically the only useful newbie selector is the base banner S rank rate up

[thorn sundial]

i noticed this that's why i was wondering, also my laurel is S while my teddy is SSS+

[lean spire]

yeah.... xd

[thorn sundial]

i was wondering getting her shards, is she good ?

[zenith thorn]

ozma

[wispy robin]

You will need to at least ss her when selena drops

[zenith thorn]

selecting laurel is one thing
selecting ozma is another thing

[lean spire]

best healer/buffer for physical teams right now

[thorn sundial]

ooh okay

[lean spire]

and she is free so

[frozen creek]

You need her for glaciation and true slash team too

[thorn sundial]

i got like 18 shards atm, not that much but i started a week ago or something like that

[thorn sundial]

only physical i got right now ^^'

[lean spire]

that should work for now i guess

[warm cloud]

can i use alisa in oblivion epitaph team instead of kaleido temporarily?

[deft apex]

no

alisa doesn't work for nihil

[thorn sundial]

i don't really play them, my team right now is a mix of characters i find cool and i know are pretty good too

[hallow vector]

Any preferred A-Rank from the selector?

[warm cloud]

i have neither yet since i just started but i already started getting alisa's shards lol

[lean spire]

you can use empy, if you have it

[wispy robin]

Hanying will be your entire team next patch

[lean spire]

thats a decent team

[thorn sundial]

if i get her

[thorn sundial]

trying to get luna's sig

[wispy robin]

You cant not get her when we have x3 income rn

[thorn sundial]

i have absolutely no savings

[lean spire]

you should focus on getting your team setup before getting weapons tho

[wispy robin]

This patch alone gives 30k bc

[thorn sundial]

what do you mean ? sorry i'm pretty new to the game

[lean spire]

eventually you want a roster for teams to do stuff, like this

[thorn sundial]

epitaph,oblivion,guardrake,oblivion sig...
cost quite a lot

[lean spire]

this is because different stages ask you to use different elements

[thorn sundial]

you mean by element ?

[lean spire]

that said you already have nihil and fire, so thats good

[thorn sundial]

but oblivion is currently the only nihil in game

waiting for ishmael

[frozen creek]

How long ago did you start

That’s actually really organised for a relatively new account

[wispy robin]

If you only started you have a whole ton of permanent bc available
Theres about 40k bc total in story roguelikes ect

[lean spire]

yeah well, but she kind of the whole team xd

[lean spire]

my account is not new, but im a bit casual and have taken breaks

so im not 100% on everything

[thorn sundial]

yes but i lack serum lol, i used a lot in the event to get memories and many items too

[frozen creek]

Yeah that’s good go at your own pace

[wispy robin]

Story becomes free after ayla chapter

[thorn sundial]

when is that ?

the story number i mean

[thorn sundial]

upgrading little by little but it ain't an absolute unit rn

[wispy robin]

Dont remember number, check the one with ayla pfp on it

[wispy robin]

Yea you def should get weap for her so she can carry you through content like clash reflection

[thorn sundial]

that's story 22, i'm at 7 right now x)

i'm trying

i got her cub first because it's limited

just in case

[wispy robin]

There are interludes which are free and give good bc too

[lean spire]

Cubes Is the last thing you shoul ger tbf

[lament gyro]

tips to pwer up my luna to 7 k

i bis her all and shes ss

[thorn sundial]

i just noticed i missde two of them

[lean spire]

I've been playing for a long AND i only have 3 cubes

[thorn sundial]

yeah but limited
if it's limited i shall get it !

[deft apex]

oops wrong one

[lean spire]

Fair nuff

[thorn sundial]

i really just wanted full oblivion setup lol

[deft apex]

ok there

[lean spire]

I get you, it also rustles my gimmies when i have an incomplete character

[thorn sundial]

on most on the gachas i play i have terrible builds but since i got oblivion and she just released, i went "you shall become mine entirely "

[lean spire]

pulling for the new thing is a good policy in this game

[thorn sundial]

that's what i heard

i really don't want to build these two below 😮‍💨

[zenith thorn]

well you don't have to
they are just qte bot

[lean spire]

i mean noctis is kinda usable, also has nice animations

[stiff zinc]

Am I missing something or is Norman revival plan close to impossible even with trial units

[zenith thorn]

just slap them a support set then move on

[lean spire]

iirc we get free alpha later tho

[thorn sundial]

i like him

[stiff zinc]

Seems unfair to lock hundreds of bc behind such difficult content

[thorn sundial]

HELL YEAH

[zenith thorn]

it is

unfair or not,what you gonna do

[stiff zinc]

Rip 600 bc then

[zenith thorn]

just play more

[lean spire]

norman is very endgame content, and now its harder 💀

[thorn sundial]

i chose her on my first account but someone told me to make a new one T-T
and so i obeyed and took epitaph instead lol

[stiff zinc]

What’s the point in providing weak trial characters lol

[lean spire]

its a sensible decision, epitah is stronger

[zenith thorn]

because kuro is stupid and haven't updated the trial roster

they are beyond stupid

[lean spire]

coping

[thorn sundial]

yes but CW is wife

[zenith thorn]

:lmaocry:

[lean spire]

true true

[thorn sundial]

depends on the level i guess, mine isn't that hard but you're probably at higher difficulty

[stiff zinc]

Yeah I’m at last 2 stages of pioneer

[lean spire]

i cant even finish my own norman 💀

[stiff zinc]

Managed to clear this one relatively easily

[carmine reef]

the highest difficulty is certainly impossible with trials

cloud island is maybe impossible with trials too

[stiff zinc]

Yeah this is where I’m stuck at

[carmine reef]

cloud island should be quite easy with regular teams, though

abyssal is some real shet though

[thorn sundial]

what do i need to upgrade the big boy ?

[dusky quarry]

Respect for finding wata cool

[zenith thorn]

bp is really irrelevant

but if you want to know what increase bp then
anything regarding stats increace
(level up,rank up, promotion, etc etc),
weapon harmony
weapom resonance

[thorn sundial]

yeah same

[carmine reef]

2 cub dupes

[thorn sundial]

i mean he IS cool RIGHT ???

[zenith thorn]

i mean if you sre f2p,you are discouraged from getting anything other than a character

[thorn sundial]

ugh, that's gonna be costy

[zenith thorn]

you can get 2 dupe from doing norman

[carmine reef]

you can get the shards from norman ore shop instead

but that takes quite a while

[wispy robin]

it's not worth

[carmine reef]

so pay with your money or pay with your time, your choice

[thorn sundial]

i might get the BP next month but otherwise yeah i'm f2p

[carmine reef]

BP lets you get every cub but it doesn't really let you SS them unless you get lucky tbh

[lean spire]

this is probably like a 8% dmg increase

[zenith thorn]

ss cubs is like once every 3 month in my case

[carmine reef]

must be NICE

[zenith thorn]

im f2p

[carmine reef]

[visual topaz]

I love Luna

but i still suck at playing nihil

[thorn sundial]

DMG INCREASE IS DMG INCREASE

[lean spire]

that 6m damage jesus christ 😱

[visual topaz]

11m

score is 6M

[lean spire]

ahh

[zenith thorn]

ewlao

pls fund me

[visual topaz]

damage dealt 116M

[subtle zinc]

these bears are so bad

[lean spire]

well, its insane regardless

[subtle zinc]

no burst back to full

[thorn sundial]

i'm on the way...

[lean spire]

bruh

[summer topaz]

there is enough shard in the shop to ss every cub with pulling only 1 off gacha but that unrealistic since by the time you get enough to ss new cubs will be release have higher priority

[buoyant hornet]

Any ss0 ion vids from bilibili?

Everything on youtube is just mid-high invest lmao

[wispy robin]

ahhhh just did 1 random pull
finally my lamia playable............

[visual topaz]

[buoyant hornet]

W

[visual topaz]

look at this whel

wait

das a dolphin

[wispy robin]

right after getting wata cub offrate in 1 pull as well 🐴

[visual topaz]

bruh

[serene siren]

bruh

[buoyant hornet]

Lamia without cub is actually -ass lol

[rocky valley]

check him pc

[buoyant hornet]

Imo it's lowkey better than sig in several scenarios

[zenith thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/you-sould-now-lightning-punishing-gray-raven-gif-6382225944618884206

[zenith thorn]

idk what lamia cub does tbh
i just pull it

[thorn sundial]

u got a 4leaf clover or something in your pocket ?

[serene siren]

ult 2 damage goes brrr is a really good buff

[wispy robin]

time to see the dark score diff now

[thorn sundial]

any1 know when is the dmc colab coming to global ?

[carmine reef]

not bilibili but i'm p sure snazz is ss0 ion

[zenith thorn]

next year or not dont know

[carmine reef]

maybe he has a vid

[novel sleet]

So its rlly confirmed that the next patch is a solo patch?

[river nymph]

[zenith thorn]

snazz has no ion vid yet

[zenith thorn]

again
we don't know

[carmine reef]

what is he hiding from us

[river nymph]

i know

[novel sleet]

I remember someone talking abt how someone snuck into Kr database and found it

[carmine reef]

[river nymph]

[novel sleet]

what are these symbols

[visual topaz]

where banhammer

[novel sleet]

💀💀

[visual topaz]

squad symbol

story skipper spotted

[novel sleet]

I read on codex

[visual topaz]

see

[novel sleet]

Haven't read after chapter 17 tho

[visual topaz]

not appreciating Palma Noan and Lilian smh

[novel sleet]

Chapter 17 left me in shambles

[visual topaz]

[novel sleet]

I rlly need to see pgr edits people don't post those on yt bru

[sick flower]

GUYS

[novel sleet]

[sick flower]

if i change a hypertuned resonance

[carmine reef]

you'd have to go to bilibili to see those

[sick flower]

will it stay hypertuned

[zenith thorn]

it won't

it won't change

[carmine reef]

? yes it will

[visual topaz]

yes

[carmine reef]

the ht stays

[novel sleet]

It will stay

[zenith thorn]

it will stay ht

[buoyant hornet]

Sad

[sick flower]

and can you guys what kind of a build i should go for

with crimson weave

[rocky valley]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1183287676124811334.webp?size=128&animated=true

[zenith thorn]

tried to snipe the answer
the question was a bit different :lmaocry:

[carmine reef]

top basics bottom atk or ult

[novel sleet]

4 diesel 2 cottie

[buoyant hornet]

Very unlikely since it's a free + non free sequence but who knows

[sick flower]

i asked about resonance and you are telling me about memories

[buoyant hornet]

They have no reason to stall it out

[novel sleet]

Well everyone was talking abt it

[sick flower]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-gif-14461407771041848368

[vale raft]

Lucia: Crimson Weave <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:attacker:1285839106240417803><:lightning_element:1287636531321765959><:umbrasurge:1288090169303371828>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

General DPS set
Used for S0-SS3

Memories

4x Diesel
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Basic Atk
Bottom Slot: 6x Any ATK+15 Variant

Harmony Recommendation

Cottie

[novel sleet]

There

[buoyant hornet]

We'll see once the korean server gets an announcement

[barren plank]

Hallo my favorite people

[buoyant hornet]

Hiii

[novel sleet]

I forgot how far they were

[buoyant hornet]

Just 2 weeks ahead of us

[novel sleet]

We in the same guild

[visual topaz]

bruh my wz run so trash with hindsight i need holy water to bleach my eyes

[barren plank]

Hai Feyerlao

[buoyant hornet]

Ik this feeling

[barren plank]

Oh hai Lily

[buoyant hornet]

How's your day legend

[visual topaz]

[glass bay]

ewlao

[sick flower]

will changing resonance affect the characters bp

[carmine reef]

yes but who cares

[glass bay]

at this stgae i need to read ur summaries, this sht is too much yap now

[frail hinge]

Well the title is for sure true I'm counting at least 3 different NOS already

[barren plank]

Kinda sht ngl but when has a day not felt sht for me

[novel sleet]

So as far as I remember this patch was gonna end on 2/20 or some

[barren plank]

[buoyant hornet]

Me watching back my void wz practice video (yet it's somehow my best score until now)

[sick flower]

GUYS DOES BP CHANGE WHEN I CHANGE RESONANCE

[carmine reef]

holy sht dude i already answered you

[frail hinge]

That's far far

[buoyant hornet]

Sometimes unga bunga gameplay really gets you far 💀

[novel sleet]

Obv

[frail hinge]

No?

[barren plank]

It does but it's such a minute change that it's barely noticable

[carmine reef]

in fact i've answered you twice now and you ignored it

[winter wind]

Why don’t you just change it and find out

[novel sleet]

Whats your name in-game dalao

[frail hinge]

It does?!

[carmine reef]

yes it does

[buoyant hornet]

Hoping you feel better soon 🙏

[barren plank]

L KUSOGAME
Formerly Aurelius

[novel sleet]

Bp doesn't matter either way

[carmine reef]

skill levels affect bp

[sick flower]

all of you say something im confused imma uninstall the game

[frail hinge]

And you mean like changing resonance from like blue orb to signature move or.smth like that?

[wispy robin]

bruh +350k from onetap already
but cubs don't matter ofc

[carmine reef]

ok go uninstall then

[sick flower]

yes

WHAT ELSE COULD I MEAN 😭

[barren plank]

It does but it's barely noticable

[frail hinge]

He said BP specifically

[barren plank]

Literally < 1 BP

[novel sleet]

We keep saying eos yet we keep playing it anyway

[deft apex]

Cubs are worthless

[buoyant hornet]

I mean it kinda matters early game for border pact ig but it's already a passive increase lol

[barren plank]

Real
Tho I stopped spending any money

[sick flower]

1 bp could save my ass 🙏

[novel sleet]

Lamia cub and Nanami cub

[wispy robin]

ok i think i'm actually safe with this now

[storm silo]

Will Luna coating banner contain a weapon selector? Or should I pull for her weapon now

[visual topaz]

battle point is irrelevant

[barren plank]

I highly doubt it would

[sick flower]

which skills do i upgrade

[buoyant hornet]

I'm afraid not

[novel sleet]

Sync patch is not good for money either way

Just a instant homeless simulator

[frail hinge]

What patch were Cubs introduced actually

[barren plank]

Lightning damage > special CW skill at the end

And then dont upgrade the cub anymore

[frail hinge]

The two on the right

[buoyant hornet]

Lowkey missing the days when 1.5m in hero wz was a high score

[sick flower]

is there a limit on the amount of SKILLS that i can upgrade

[barren plank]

Same

[buoyant hornet]

But I won't complain about getting bigger numbers either

[sick flower]

or can i max them all

[frail hinge]

Your patience

[barren plank]

No, but there's a limit to how many of those you can slot

[sick flower]

okay ty

[deft apex]

echo aria, so wanshi/tempest patch

[frail hinge]

Those things take a WHILE to level up so goodluck

[wispy robin]

bro got s+ daren 3s lamia and somehow managed to get only 300k higher than me 🐴

[frail hinge]

The a rank cubs came.one by one ri

Or were they all dumped together

[buoyant hornet]

I think kurai mentioned something about cw's cub needing its stats leveled?

[deft apex]

i think they were all dumped at once and then no additions ever again lol

[novel sleet]

I'm def not reaching 1.8m next week too

[frail hinge]

And people will say there's no skill issue in the game

[barren plank]

Probably a casual

[frail hinge]

Till rhe s rank cubs

[deft apex]

not even a 580k 😭

[wispy robin]

very casual with full 3s acc

[frail hinge]

Same

[barren plank]

Yes?

[deft apex]

well yea obv, i'm talking about the A ranks

[novel sleet]

I forgot I had wata on dps set 💀

[barren plank]

Are people not allowed to whale and be casual

[novel sleet]

Until I realized it I already used all my AP

[novel sleet]

Wht was ur score for this week?

[mental sage]

This should be good for a new player team right?

[wispy robin]

idk even if you play without hands and random mash buttons you should get more with 344 dark than that

[novel sleet]

Now I changed my wata to 4 alphonse and 4 shakes set with all class reso

[barren plank]

Yes
Tho switch Luna and Teddy's colors

[carmine reef]

it's fine, though get kaleido and use her when you can, she's free

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah

[winter wind]

I believe Luna goes in yellow orb slot

[storm silo]

You’re doing good bro

[barren plank]

No she goes in blue

[novel sleet]

Always start with ur Amp or healer

[carmine reef]

it literally doesn't matter where luna goes

[mental sage]

Oooo

[buoyant hornet]

Kaleido or alisa first?

[winter wind]

Oh someone told me yellow

[carmine reef]

only matters that dv is on red

[frail hinge]

Uuuuuhhhh

[carmine reef]

that's the ONLY part that matters

[mental sage]

Ah

[novel sleet]

[frail hinge]

I think 1.6m

But I fked up trail later by using luna when I didn't even know how to play her

[visual topaz]

bruh

[carmine reef]

i still think alisa personally

[visual topaz]

compression failed

[frail hinge]

It was 550k across the board

[carmine reef]

5* kaleido not used in ice for now, other alternatives exist for void in the short term

[novel sleet]

My tb run was fked because I forgot to change wata dps set or else I could have gotten around 610k

[buoyant hornet]

Tbh same

Alisa is the only way to have a phys team + hanying is soon™

[buoyant hornet]

Was that the run I recorded for you?

[storm silo]

Is there any way to get your stamina back in ppc other than waiting for it to end?

[river nymph]

[subtle zinc]

I cannot stop laughing at this bear

[novel sleet]

Yeah I was wondering why I couldn't score more until I realize my wata set was wrong 😭

[carmine reef]

nope

[novel sleet]

This bear stronger than the unknown twins btw.

[buoyant hornet]

Also don't forget about qte management it's also a big differentiating point

[subtle zinc]

LITERALLY i was like oh ill just wata and kill but nope

[summer topaz]

later wave bears are thicc af

[thorn sundial]

bear genocide

[subtle zinc]

just so funny how he got so low and im like huh wait

[novel sleet]

Yeah gotta mald for it though since it happens a bit too fast

[river nymph]

[subtle zinc]

Martin

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah comes with practice and understanding what each qte does

[novel sleet]

I was malding a lot due to qu shukra rot too since I had ayla on 222 healer set and I was wondering when to pop qte for the best usage of 2s dv buff

[river nymph]

martin my goat

[zenith thorn]

most normal bear experience

[carmine reef]

mechanically void qte is pretty easy, you just hit tank qte immediately and then wait half a second to hit amp
the difficulty is just strategic, determining whether you actually need to use them or not

[frail hinge]

I forgot to
Give him is subdps set
Get luna to s5
Train with void team like at all
Use Axial Ray and instead used fkn glorious spear on my 21

[river nymph]

[zenith thorn]

xenotan

[river nymph]

cryowo

[frail hinge]

Ytue this causeni realised eventually how I was Wasing qtes on a wave that'd die regardless

[carmine reef]

HUH

you havin a stroke bruh?

[barren plank]

Dyslexia: Grei Raben

[frail hinge]

No I just type very poorly

[deft apex]

[novel sleet]

My amp don't even got wep reso I was running teddy sss on 222 healer set because I used my kaliedo for D shark

[frail hinge]

It gets so bad that when I accidentally get the right word my phone changes it back

[river nymph]

[novel sleet]

Autocorrect ❌

Auto wrong ✅

[subtle zinc]

surely the waves after 21 are easier than the bear i´m kind of anxious when I get to his wave now

and start playing bad

[frail hinge]

My 21 has a reso cause I was mad at everyone calling her a qte bot at release so I gave her dlt to ensure she'd swap with cw LMAO

[normal sierra]

damn, dats a fat bear

[novel sleet]

Me who didn't even got 21 to save BC for weps

Ended up quitting the game till Alisa patch

[barren plank]

What color for Zitherwoe Infinitas?

[frail hinge]

Honestly I like it when its bears cause that means there's just one target for my nuke and not some idiot that's lying on the other end of the map cause my run to be ruined forever

[deft apex]

Wtf whel

[river nymph]

[sick flower]

she think she bluetooth 💀💯🔥

[barren plank]

No I just reresod my old Aline set for Teddy and Zitehrwoe infinitas

[carmine reef]

i gave teddy her own actual set with her own resos tbh

[novel sleet]

Ngl thinking of running solo luna for void wz since shakes wata isa a pain

[carmine reef]

i'm the A rank guild battle alpha now

[barren plank]

I probably will do that myself

[frail hinge]

I can actually see a new player asking this LMAO

[barren plank]

She's really fun

[river nymph]

wutda

guild malders

[novel sleet]

Is there any unit more tougher than shakes wata to learn

[barren plank]

True actually

[carmine reef]

always been

[rare badge]

Btw considering integrated patches are a thing, does it mean blue banner target resets on Yata patch? If its yata + nanaknight + ishmael

[frail hinge]

Is she more fun than Bridget cause I've barely seen anyone talk about her

[carmine reef]

but only because i'm in a semi casual guild

[sick flower]

what is the favorite gift of crimson weave

[wispy robin]

shakes wata paired with lucia

[carmine reef]

i have to maintain my reputation as the most goated in the guild

[novel sleet]

.....

[carmine reef]

🐸

[novel sleet]

Surely I can run solo lucia

[hallow vector]

Can I put any of this on Oblivion?

[river nymph]

fwog

[carmine reef]

no

[remote pier]

[river nymph]

[sick flower]

is it because its lucia

[barren plank]

No choose the bow and arrow

[carmine reef]

yes

[hallow vector]

Thx

[sick flower]

how can i easily get frog

[carmine reef]

i mean in the first place alpha is the original lucia so those are HER memories to begin with

[deft apex]

Whenever ishmael drops, its when banner resets

[carmine reef]

why do u care

[sick flower]

what the hell why do you care

[novel sleet]

Always wondered why yall say to choose the bow and arrow its only used for reso right? Or could echo use it too?

[normal sierra]

dorm play to get 5* gift, open em and pray for frogs

[sick flower]

ill gift her 💀

[barren plank]

Echo

[carmine reef]

you can only buy specific gifts on debut event shop

[lean spire]

alissa can use

[carmine reef]

otherwise it's just random from gift box

[karmic gulch]

Im new to the game who should i put on the base banner?

[remote pier]

if no frog, reroll account

[carmine reef]

watanabe epitaph

[novel sleet]

Kuro might have fked up as usual

[frail hinge]

Watanabe: epitaph
S rank
Fire tank

He's super strong and useful for 2 teams ´ ▽ ` )ﾉ

[sick flower]

this game gonna get eos soon quit it

:3

[river nymph]

:3

[barren plank]

Huh

[karmic gulch]

Whats that

[novel sleet]

Pgr prolly dying after dmc patch

[zenith thorn]

harmony for alisa

[sick flower]

patch...

[barren plank]

End of Service

[sick flower]

i dont think a whole collab is a patch

[novel sleet]

Yes its a patch

[sick flower]

patch is like a small bug fix

[barren plank]

No they're called patches too

[zenith thorn]

what?

:lmaocry:

[novel sleet]

[frail hinge]

Every update In this game is called a patch

[sick flower]

no im sure patches are small improvements

[carmine reef]

patch is now synonymous with update

[zenith thorn]

do you think it's called version update

[carmine reef]

this has been the case for like 20 years

[sick flower]

yeah i think its called update

[karmic gulch]

What abt A rank or it doesnt matter and should keep it random

[lean spire]

[novel sleet]

[carmine reef]

not our fault if you refuse to move with the times

[barren plank]

XXI

[zenith thorn]

snyhow what zex said
patch=update

[sick flower]

im not even 20

[lean spire]

a ranks dont matter, but you can use whatever you get for a while

[carmine reef]

then you're just dumb

[barren plank]

Let's not bully people now

[frail hinge]

I'd recomend trying for the latest Teddy: decryptor but otherwise yea go wild ´ ▽ ` )ﾉ

[carmine reef]

this isn't what it looks like when i'm bullying

gotta ask kev about that

[novel sleet]

No 21 matters since u prolly won't get scire ss3

[carmine reef]

huh

[deft apex]

[carmine reef]

S scire is still better than xxi

[karmic gulch]

I alreade have her

[frail hinge]

Ah 21 iz also a pretty good pick!

[sage forge]

gibbe serum

[sick flower]

and you are stupid because you dont know the difference between a literal update and just a patch

[barren plank]

U get enough for S+ for free pick sm1 else

[carmine reef]

literally just getting scire at all is already an upgrade over xxi

[novel sleet]

Point is if they get her

[carmine reef]

cope

[sick flower]

cry

[lean spire]

noctis is a decent pick because there are no free thunder characters

[carmine reef]

if someone is missing scire then she's the best pick from the luna selector

[novel sleet]

Yet*

[carmine reef]

which is available this patch

[barren plank]

Patch refers to both things and they've become interchangable since forever now lol

[karmic gulch]

Wait isnt she also a tank am i not gonna get wanatabe or wtv his name is who is also a tank

[lean spire]

i mean, i geuss is the best bet for now xd

[novel sleet]

What abt someone who has 30 empy shards and her sig

[carmine reef]

....why you have 30 empy shards and sig with no empy

[novel sleet]

Free lightning team in ishmael patch

[river nymph]

[barren plank]

Epitpah is an S-rank fire tank
XXI is an A-rank dark tank

[novel sleet]

.....

[barren plank]

Teddy is dark support

[sick flower]

again why is teddy A

[finite drift]

Is it better to grab flat atk or dmg% on cubs?

[lean spire]

i waiting for my ss3 cw

[river nymph]

[sage forge]

[carmine reef]

A rank cub or S rank cub?

[finite drift]

Base S rank

[wispy robin]

..to never be seen on the field again?

[frail hinge]

Oh yea inforgot she was free

Then I'd say 21: xx1

A rank

Dark tank

As there's no real alternative.other than her expensive s rank superior ´ ▽ ` )ﾉ

[novel sleet]

Turns into qte bot unless SSS because of our lovely nanami

[carmine reef]

prio the sig passive (assuming it's on the right character), then the elemental dmg bonus

[frail hinge]

Wuth the different elements in the game

Each one is gonna want their own tank!

She's a dark tank

Watanabe is a fire tank

So they help their respective elements

[karmic gulch]

There are quite a few thunder A ranks or they are just bad compared to him

[carmine reef]

after that you can get edb and flat atk

[wispy robin]

she can't even work as qte pre 3s

[karmic gulch]

Omg thats gonna be so much work of getting so many different characters 😭

[finite drift]

Got it thank you 😄 also secondary question, Base S Selena or SSS+ Teddy?

[lean spire]

i mean, there a no free S thunder characters (we will get one eventually tho), and he is one of the most reccent a ranks, so he is okayish

[novel sleet]

So do we just use ishamel SS instead of cw.....

[carmine reef]

teddy

[barren plank]

Huh why are u using Ishmael

[carmine reef]

capriccio useless unless you have her a) SSS b) R1 c) also SS3 daren

[novel sleet]

Just wondering some mixups

[lean spire]

there are also no free fire s ranks, but you are getting wata, so doesnt matter

[frail hinge]

Pretty much yea
Noctis is a good pick too
And he's cool

[carmine reef]

there are free fire A ranks now

[novel sleet]

Erm where did their msg go

[barren plank]

Actually wait she doesn't work because Feral and Nanami are already there

[novel sleet]

Or did I have a stroke

[carmine reef]

we got our A fire tank literally this patch

[frail hinge]

Kinda (╥﹏╥)
Try not to get overwhelmed ´ ▽ ` )ﾉ

[barren plank]

Deleted it

[lean spire]

i corrected my statement

[novel sleet]

Yeye I was thinking that because ishmael roles are just amp and tank and both are already taken

[carmine reef]

bridget is better than all the other S fire tanks besides wata anyway

[barren plank]

Is it just be or is Bridget bland asf to play

[carmine reef]

[novel sleet]

Whats wata SS shred with sig

[carmine reef]

sig doesnt affect his shred

[karmic gulch]

I just lost the 80% and its not even one of the pretty ones its the bianca thing😭

[barren plank]

25% at base

40% with shakespeare

[lean spire]

she feels slow tbh

[barren plank]

48% with diode torch

[carmine reef]

bridget is only as slow as you are

[lean spire]

are you doing weapons?

[novel sleet]

So I'm getting 48% shred

[frail hinge]

Just try getting one main elemental team first!

[lean spire]

what banner you pulling?

[carmine reef]

you can go very fast on her normal fire rot, but it's really finger breaking hard

[vale raft]

Alphonse ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

Fire DMG increases by 10%.

4pc Set Bonus

The Base DMG of Scorching Torrent and Thermal Erosion increases by 100%. Firepower Bulwark will inflict Scorching Invasion on the target hit, which will reduce their Fire Resistance for 8s. Duration resets every time it is triggered.

ATK

132

CRIT

66

DEF

223

HP

1491

[frail hinge]

I'd recommend fire since you'd be aiming for watanabe

[carmine reef]

ignition rot is slow but it's also irrelevant so who cares

[frail hinge]

(╥﹏╥)
HAVE FUN AND GOODLUCK ON YOUR PULLS O7

[wispy robin]

can't he just come already why do they have to gatekeep it

[tired orbit]

[karmic gulch]

Ty i will try to get into this game even tho it looks hard most stages

[novel sleet]

So can't I just run

[karmic gulch]

Nope should i be doing them tho?

[frail hinge]

It's
Not
Insanely
Hard
Sometimes
´ ▽ ` )ﾉ

[novel sleet]

Gloria eins and 4 shakes with wata for much more shred?

[lean spire]

nah, you can pull weapons much, much later

focus on characters

[carmine reef]

pgr is not hard unless you're trying to beat other players

[lean spire]

yeah

[karmic gulch]

Oh thank god

[novel sleet]

Babel max risk

[frail hinge]

Weapons are also important

But for a starter

You'll be fine with 5* weapons which ya can get from coop and several other ways

[carmine reef]

for ppc?

[lean spire]

everything will be powercrept, so just get the new characters and you will be good

[novel sleet]

Nah solo luna void wz

[frail hinge]

My dad was powercrept..

[carmine reef]

why solo if you have wata

he's the one character you need to NOT solo

[novel sleet]

4 shakes too hard to learn

[carmine reef]

[novel sleet]

And I remember getting 2.5m with solo luna so ye

[carmine reef]

there are still like 3 other alternatives before you need to resort to solo luna

[frail hinge]

It's l8terally just to sink an extra 3 ping and blaze orb for the first 2 rots

[carmine reef]

4shakes is not that hard but ok fine whatever

just do 2cot 2eins then

still infinitely better than solo

[frail hinge]

Me barely scraping by 2m

FK I NEED SS NOW

S5 luna is.fun but aaah I need thylat matrix.trigger

[novel sleet]

Man when I saw this I was

[lean spire]

this patch, i had a lot of bosses i hadn't beaten because they were retired, so i went to outlier point and instantly got like 300 skulls from achievements

[barren plank]

Can someone explain the new nexus star event to me

[frail hinge]

Enjoy

[frail hinge]

Pretty sure it's just a tutorial for how affix works

With the ignition setting up and detonation and all

[novel sleet]

Wait yeah I think I played it and it gave me a team with Bridget wata and hyperreal automatically

[lean spire]

so its justa tutorial? disappointing

[frail hinge]

No jo no

It's it's own gamemode

[lean spire]

aah

[frail hinge]

With its own levels and alot to it

[raw fractal]

hey guys what's the best ending to go for when grinding derived in matrix? Or does it not matter at all?

[frail hinge]

I just said that to give them an idea of what the mode was about

[frail hinge]

I mean new endings give you more rewards but eventually there are no new endings

The only thing that changes rewards are if the endings are new or not

Or hoe difficult you.make.it

The amount of artifacts you have contribute but I don't think it contributes enough to really care about

So go down any path

To avoid going insane take rhe shortest path over.and over and over

[lean spire]

the best ending is not playing it because it takes too much time to farm

[true pivot]

doesnt longer endings also give you more stuff to level ur rewards

[raw fractal]

I already got all the endings so now im looking for the most optimal one to level up for rewards.

[frail hinge]

It would but

1. He says he's grinding it hence going for the longer path would drain you out
2. The more artifacts you get aren't really as much

Basically

To me at least

It's.more.time efficient to spam.the shortest ending

[normal sierra]

longer endings = more battle nodes = more char xp
if you still need levels on some chars and wanna farm that, just go with the jetavie or the rabbit hole endings

[raw fractal]

i see, thanks guys

[normal sierra]

if you just wanna level up the reward thing to get the rewards, go with the shortest one
thou, the jetavie ending feels short enough to me

[native pine]

what memo for Ayla in qu team?

[summer topaz]

ok iv hit my limit for now got down shakes wata but orb weave luna still weak

[graceful holly]

Is this girl good I just started on CN

[barren plank]

Very much so

Tho did u select her or did u get her by accident?

[graceful holly]

I selected her because she looked cool

[shadow holly]

4dv2guin
or 4dv2sam2guin if harmo
that's for WZ

for PPC either 2/2/2 or 4Chen2guin in case you're running Cottie qu for the clear

or 2/2/2/2 with harmo, or 4guin2gloria2sam
or in case of chen, 4chen2gloria2guin with harmo
also can run 4chen4guin but usually it's kinda questionable to use because Cottie qu clears are very fast and don't have room for double qte without losing damage

[zenith thorn]

better ask in #💬・cn-lobby (get cn role from #🎫・role-selection )

none of us play cn here

so we can't make advance guide for you

nor say anything beyond anything we know

[graceful holly]

Oh ok

[karmic gulch]

Is the coop u talked abt the instructor thing? I just unlocked it bc an even mission boosted me to lvl 32 from lvl 15

[native pine]

what mem is 2/2/2?

[shadow holly]

2guin2gloria2samantha

[normal bluff]

Nope, coop is part of the challenge tab in the menu. Instructors are different

[native pine]

aight bro thx for the help

[shadow holly]

[wispy robin]

wow they actually apologized for having wrong pack description on the site
only apologized on words no apologems tho

and it's only after someone made entire 5 paragraphs pasta

[barren plank]

[buoyant hornet]

Would you say that hanying makes 5* alisa more bearable?

[scarlet python]

No?

[wispy robin]

dv hanying fr

[buoyant hornet]

I mean the reason phys was so dependent on alisa dv is because balter was the only real dmg source and she was completely reliant on rosetta qte

[carmine reef]

huh

[buoyant hornet]

So I'm guessing probably since hanying herself is main dps and applies shred for herself it's probably less annoying no?

[carmine reef]

it's even worse with hanying

[buoyant hornet]

Damn

[carmine reef]

because now both balter AND hanying are missing out on dv buff

think about it logically

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah

[normal bluff]

DPS Alisa is me coping

Alisa and Rosetta swap

[shadow holly]

the problem wasn't missing out on DV buff
problem was missing proper shred uptime

with Hanying perma shred field that issue is gone

[buoyant hornet]

I mean yeah true tbh but the way I thought of it, the biggest problem was lacking qte cycling for shred between waves

[carmine reef]

i guess

[buoyant hornet]

So ig in different ways it's better or worse

[wispy robin]

just run dv batler tbh if harmo

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah that's exactly what I'm thinking

[carmine reef]

all the new tanks have something like that

hanying's is genuinely the whole map

wata's is huge

[buoyant hornet]

Basically and throughout her rotations she applies that field too

[carmine reef]

wanshi's is smaller but still like twice as big as garn flag

[buoyant hornet]

Lmao I'm glad

[buoyant hornet]

What does wanshi's field even look like

[carmine reef]

idk icy shet

[buoyant hornet]

I never thought of him having one in the first place tbh 😭

Btw do all those tanks have gather on qte?

[wispy robin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgstePgAEnc 🧎‍♀️

[buoyant hornet]

Never really had a chance to worry about that with wata being main dps and all lol

[buoyant hornet]

I just know I'll be -ass at ion

I'm the king of misinputs

Btw I watched a snazz phys video with hanying and I have no clue how those 3 can align their rots 💀

[deft apex]

I alr kinda suck at luna-ing

[buoyant hornet]

Does ss0 alisa just not get field time or something 😭

[wispy robin]

idk i'm taking ion with nanami over fire with shake wata lmao

[buoyant hornet]

It's really hard to get a hang of tbh

[carmine reef]

||ass is already unfiltered, you don't need to mess with it||

[buoyant hornet]

Oh

[buoyant hornet]

Imagine next patch they drop both phys and ice wz on week 1

It'll be actually insane 💀

[winter wind]

Can nana knight solo at SS0? Or does she need SS3, SSS?

[lean spire]

pls no 💀

[buoyant hornet]

We'd be fcked lmao

[winter wind]

I’ve been seeing people say solo Nanaknight uses Vera over CW and others saying CW stays in the team

[buoyant hornet]

Banners are timegated but dorm purchases probably aren't

We'll ser

[lean spire]

it depends on your cw rank

[buoyant hornet]

What invest is this

[wispy robin]

cw only stays if sss or you use ish as amp

[buoyant hornet]

I mean there's a good chance I might have to run him sigless at least for a while anyway 😭

[wispy robin]

i wonder what invest is setsu :clueless

[buoyant hornet]

Oh it's setsu 💀

[languid smelt]

how should i build support echo?

[buoyant hornet]

Good idea tbh

[barren plank]

Does the map for dark wz change this patch?

[buoyant hornet]

4signa 2davinci

Harmo recommend for 4dv

[wispy robin]

he said the thing...

[buoyant hornet]

Idk we'll see ig

Hope it's less glitchy than lightning and physical maps