📨・meta-help

[sly geyser]

just kill em all smh

[tired orbit]

i dont like latency in her hold basic and orb ping latency in that mode

[tranquil flare]

I wish her hold could be edited to stay on cypher till you decide to turn it off

[sly geyser]

while u keep the joystick dragged yes

if u release it u quit the state

[tranquil flare]

I've tried that it's messy and hit and miss

[sly geyser]

ez

[tranquil flare]

She's just weird

[sly geyser]

nah bro

she's fine

[tranquil flare]

I don't even bother with it much anymore it's so wonky

[sly geyser]

I'd rather play alisa instead of luna

[tranquil flare]

I'll put her out to do some 3 pings then toss her back on stand by

[sly geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936177246018895882/1322031512710811760/1263735698985586709.gif

[tranquil flare]

Luna oblivion?

[sly geyser]

yes

[tranquil flare]

Luna is way easier to play than alisa

[tired orbit]

the only thing i dont like in oblivion is autododge

[tranquil flare]

She has auto dodge?

[sly geyser]

then u will like Ishmael

[tired orbit]

at her hold basic yes

[tranquil flare]

I stay getting smacked

[sly geyser]

ngl for me her rot just feel slow idk

[tranquil flare]

It feels super smooth to me

At least how I rotate

[sly geyser]

smooth is not the opposite of slow smh

[tranquil flare]

Which is probably different than everyone else

[sly geyser]

[tranquil flare]

Well it's much better than the maybe it will work maybe it won't clunky cypher orbs mechanics echo got going on

[sly geyser]

for me alisa is faster

[tranquil flare]

She just feels horrendous

[sly geyser]

just take some time to actually sit ur butt and learn her

u'll find she's pretty ez

[tranquil flare]

I think echo is best for people that have fast mind and fast fingers

[hazy sandal]

Hmm 🤔 easy week

[tranquil flare]

Her inputs are extremely tight

[sly geyser]

nah it's just practice

[tranquil flare]

I like units that don't have strict timing

[sly geyser]

peeps these days are too in a hurry

just sit and learn smh

[glass bay]

How is echo difficult

Wth

[sly geyser]

she's horrendous seems like

horrendous to play

[glass bay]

[sly geyser]

designed for fast minded folks

not for the pleb

[tranquil flare]

Cypher orbs disappear too fast, tries to stuff to much into kit

[sly geyser]

free character smh

[glass bay]

if her inputs are tight

[tranquil flare]

Yes

[glass bay]

i dno how u score well in ppc and wz

[sly geyser]

ppc qte bot

[glass bay]

because the input speed for high score is way higher than alisa timing

[tranquil flare]

I don't put he on field

[sly geyser]

wz...

[glass bay]

no im saying that team rotations are generally way tighter than her gameplay loop

[sly geyser]

bro there's a place called training grounds

[glass bay]

alisa is slow compared to that anyway

[tranquil flare]

I only play with balter and rigor

[tired orbit]

dose it mtter in wha sequence you press cypher orbs or can just spam 1?

[glass bay]

ok how u play qu or wata

[sly geyser]

jeez

[tranquil flare]

Qu is easy

[glass bay]

can u hero retain in wz

[sly geyser]

yeah qu is pretty ez ngl

but wata

[tranquil flare]

I don't play wz like that

[sly geyser]

wz slacker ?

[glass bay]

im saying that wz rotations are much tighter than alisa cypher orb timing

[tranquil flare]

Idk about slacker I do my mission

[glass bay]

so if u cannot play alisa properly no way u hero retain

because u will be slow in all ur teams

[sly geyser]

looks like he just slacks

[tranquil flare]

Lol Alisa is weird other teams play better

I don't get the correlation

I find oblivion easier to play than echo and mask think echo is easier than oblivion

[sly geyser]

the thing is if ur at least hero retain in wz u should be fast enough to be able to play alisa

[tranquil flare]

I'm vanguard or something

[sly geyser]

[tranquil flare]

Idk

[river nymph]

[sly geyser]

what da hekk

[tranquil flare]

What's that low rank

It probably is

[sly geyser]

so u don't play wz ?

[tranquil flare]

I play

I got 1.5 million on my last run

In void

[sly geyser]

so u can't be vanguard bro

[abstract heron]

pls don't tell me you whale on vanguard bracket

[sly geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936177246018895882/1322031512710811760/1263735698985586709.gif

k whel

[tranquil flare]

Idk what that means to whale in a specific bracket

You just do the mission

Idk what to tell you

[sly geyser]

he's just joking

[tranquil flare]

Sometimes I do warzone sometimes I forget to play

[sly geyser]

ofc

[tranquil flare]

Actually how do ranks go

What's the wz order

I never really cared

[tranquil flare]

Lol!!!

[sly geyser]

so the lowest is backup

[tranquil flare]

I guess I don't play

Yeah no I just do my 12 challenges and done with it

[sly geyser]

it's like backup > recon > vanguard > elite > leader > hero > legend

u should be elite at least

as a slacker

[tranquil flare]

Nah

I used to play wz more

I'm very hit or miss now

I usually do 6/12 a week

[sly geyser]

but that's not good bro

ur missing a lot of wz currency

[tired orbit]

i dont have anyone in phys team thus im always demote to vanguard when there is phys challenge

my dark is weak but still keep it up

[sly geyser]

wym u don't have anyone

[tranquil flare]

I've been doing it more often but yeah I don't play pgr like I used too

[sly geyser]

alisa is free

[sly geyser]

bro retired

[tranquil flare]

Fun concept char garbo gameplay

Bring back Gen 1 and Gen 2 simplicity

[sly geyser]

no

wym simplicity?

gen 1 was cancer for top players

[tranquil flare]

What I said

[sly geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936177246018895882/1322031512710811760/1263735698985586709.gif

[tranquil flare]

When cores and Ults wasn't essays

[ripe stag]

Which character

[tranquil flare]

And just simple to do

[tranquil flare]

Echo

[sly geyser]

nah that's just skill issue bro

[ripe stag]

She's simple af though

[deft apex]

echo is just hyper + veritas + balter gameplay animations

[foggy ridge]

swap, hold ba, spam them special orbs, 3ping, 3ping, 3ping, any ping, ult 2

[tranquil flare]

Nah hyper wayyy easier

[ripe stag]

Idk how someone can't hold basic > orb mash > 3x 3p > 1p > ult > 1p > swap

[carmine reef]

Jfc

[sly geyser]

i mean the game would've feel repetitive asf

[ripe stag]

She's Hyperreal level braindead

[tired orbit]

but idk should i open her for shards or better pull for easy ss3 at least

[ripe stag]

She doesn't even orb cancel

Unlike Hyperreal

💀

[deft apex]

nah hyper's more

[foggy ridge]

yes she do what

[carmine reef]

It's been like 8 hours and bro is still yapping about how he cant read huh

[deft apex]

you cancel her orbs

[foggy ridge]

🐴

[sly geyser]

he said cyfer orbs turns back to normal ones

[tranquil flare]

No

You just come in at bad time

[sly geyser]

i'm telling him to keep the joystick dragged

but he ain't listening

💀

[tranquil flare]

I try the drag method

[ripe stag]

https://youtube.com/shorts/TNbX5gW47mo?si=VHXcR6If8bhm08ry
You don't even need to do that while pinging mantra orbs

[tranquil flare]

It's just not consistent

[sly geyser]

wym not consistent

[tranquil flare]

It's weird

[sly geyser]

[ripe stag]

I think he doesn't understand how Alisa works

[tranquil flare]

Also that's a lot to think about when trying to dodge and my get hit

I need to have to think to activate my button if I need to dodge

[ripe stag]

That's why alisa's cub is so good

[sly geyser]

@tranquil flare just check the video bro

[ripe stag]

Or any cub which can get her invincibility

[sly geyser]

and tell me it's not consistent

[pallid cypress]

So if i do a 10 roll in luna banner that pity Will carry over to the next debut banner?

[sly geyser]

yes

unlike reverse 1999

[tired orbit]

i always trying to ping cypher orbs in right sequence so i could just spam 1

[sly geyser]

bro we don't care about cyfer orb sequence

that's just a waste of time

[ripe stag]

Want me to make another video on it ?

I can show him how consistent Alisa is

But it's timewaste to double rot Alisa

[tired orbit]

ok

[sly geyser]

ss3 alisa doesn't change anything important bro

[ripe stag]

You can't even double rot Alisa

[sly geyser]

just ss her

[ripe stag]

Alisa is either SS0 or SSS0

[tranquil flare]

I didn't learn anything from that video

[sly geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936177246018895882/1322031512710811760/1263735698985586709.gif

[ripe stag]

Anything below SS0 is useless
Anything above SSS0 is weird
Anything in between of SS0 and SSS0 is useless

[ripe stag]

Wait let me just make a detailed one

[sly geyser]

[ripe stag]

Give me 10 mins or so

[mint jay]

Karen:

[sly geyser]

ezralao for the pleb

[ripe stag]

I'm not dalao

Don't ruin the reputation of dalaos

[sly geyser]

ss3 karen still garbage anyway

[tranquil flare]

Did spider 2b make one

[ripe stag]

@sly geyser

[tranquil flare]

I'll find his

[frail hinge]

Glorious spear or super conducting axial Ray

[sly geyser]

who? 💀

[ripe stag]

I'm not making a guide for this dude

@sly geyser

[frail hinge]

10% healing effect or 8% full power boost

[sly geyser]

why

[ripe stag]

See what he said

I mean atleast spider won't get her rotation wrong right?

RIGHT?

[sly geyser]

we're cooked

[tranquil flare]

How am I supposed whose good or bad at videos

[ripe stag]

Ok he actually didn't get it wrong

[autumn belfry]

Is Liv: Luminance still worth it to invest for my phys team? Should I use leap wafer chips on rigor instead?

[frail hinge]

Glorious spear or super conducting axial Ray I beg you ´ ▽ ` )ﾉ

[ripe stag]

Alisa only has one use style

[sly geyser]

really?

[tranquil flare]

Next you gonna tell me I shouldn't watch rexlent

[ripe stag]

That's the one I posted

[sly geyser]

[frail hinge]

Sorry nah!
There's a free alternative!
Alisa: echo

[ripe stag]

Her leap gives her a 2nd type of rotation

[tranquil flare]

She has a leap!

[autumn belfry]

Oh, very nice

[sly geyser]

bro is rexlent even making pgr content anymore ?

[frail hinge]

Someone please the game will go off if I don't return soon

[frail hinge]

Ofc he is

[sly geyser]

really? like does he do the luna guide ?

[mint jay]

He posted Luna guide a few days ago

[frail hinge]

@ripe stag daskette

[frail hinge]

Pretty sure he did

[sly geyser]

oh... i should check it out then

[ripe stag]

Yea
Crash Course

[frail hinge]

Anyone please (╥﹏╥)

[sly geyser]

rexlent is pretty good tho

[ripe stag]

Glorious

First

[sly geyser]

but he gives sometimes useless tips lol

[frail hinge]

OK YHANK YOU

[visual topaz]

I liked rexlent Luna vid

[mint jay]

Rexlent is goat for helping me with his guides when I started

[sly geyser]

pgr content on YouTube just made me quit watching it lmao

[visual topaz]

I didn't know how to play Luna until I saw his vid thir morning

[sly geyser]

so much misinfo

[tranquil flare]

https://youtu.be/8z--sXWXlV4?si=h1Zuf4AhqY5-wMFp

I think he plays with controller

[mint jay]

He does

[sly geyser]

i didn't watched this guide...

[tranquil flare]

Because I'm not understanding how her hits cypher orbs

I play only on mobile

[sly geyser]

me too

[tranquil flare]

So it's weird certain characters

[sly geyser]

and there's no difference with a controller

i even think controller is pretty weird

at usage

[tired orbit]

im using controllere all time

[sly geyser]

pc player ?

[tired orbit]

yes

[sly geyser]

i wonder how u mapped ur controls

[tired orbit]

my phone barely works so i using pc

let me make screenshot

[tired orbit]

first 4 orb on abxy second 4 on right stick camera with lb+abxy

[sly geyser]

basic atk with R1 ?

[tired orbit]

yes

[sly geyser]

and dodge with L1

[tired orbit]

dodge with l2

[sly geyser]

wait what ?

what is L1 for then ?

[tired orbit]

l1 with abxy for camera

[sly geyser]

what about the cub ?

[rare anvil]

between the 2 skills of luna's cub which is better? left or right?

[tired orbit]

cub left dpad

[abstract heron]

right one

[carmine reef]

It doesn't really matter

[sly geyser]

so ultimate on R2

[abstract heron]

actually it matters a little

[tired orbit]

yes

[rare anvil]

as for the passives, im assuming nihi, the luna sig thing and dmg bonus are the best?

[sly geyser]

hum i should try it out someday

[tranquil flare]

Okay I'm trying training boss mode and I'm getting better with echo hold

[carmine reef]

You have ss guardrake?

[dim bane]

Hello, I have a question. Is the selector from the standard banner going to include Luna nextw or is it going to get replaced before ?

[carmine reef]

[abstract heron]

yup

[tranquil flare]

But why does my echo automatically do her joint attack?

[sly geyser]

what join atk ?

the leap one ?

[tranquil flare]

The chains

[carmine reef]

Will have luna next patch

[tired orbit]

im thinking about to put rapid fire on l1 but i should use camera somehow

[opaque moth]

Luna oblivion what's the benefit of using finality ult over the main sequence one?

[rare anvil]

one more thing, between luna ss and lingya ss (assuming this is the best from default ore shop) which should i ss first?

[sly geyser]

when the gauge is full

[carmine reef]

Almost none lol

[dim bane]

Ok, thx. I'm glad will be able to get her to SSS then

[raw swift]

I don't even know how to do the finality ult does it matter alot?

[carmine reef]

No

[deft apex]

finality ult is hold ult

[tranquil flare]

Yeah I rexlebt video he has to do cypher orb to trigger the joint attack

[carmine reef]

Finality is really bad

[raw swift]

Ohhhh

[deft apex]

lol

[ripe stag]

@sly geyser probably the most braindead Alisa rot video incoming

[raw swift]

Good thing I didn't do it

[ripe stag]

[tranquil flare]

But my echo does it after I run out of signal orbs automatically

[sly geyser]

can't wait

[raw swift]

Echo???

Oh

I thought you were talking about void there

[carmine reef]

Ye nihil echo ofc

[tired orbit]

i think finality ult for end of rotation when you have zero orbs

[carmine reef]

[raw swift]

Oh

[ripe stag]

The most braindead Alisa Echo rot guide
.....my brain died to make this

[carmine reef]

You'd just swap

[sly geyser]

topics are

"alisa is bad"

and

"which skill for guardrake"

[carmine reef]

Finality only for the literal last second of the entire run

[raw swift]

ONLY the last rot of the entire wz?

[deft apex]

where orb cancel

[carmine reef]

In wz yes

Thats the only usage. And you dont do a rot with it

[opaque moth]

I mean it doesn't even trigger qte

[carmine reef]

When i said literally the last second, i meant it

[ripe stag]

It's made for this Dracoflame guy

[rare anvil]

?

[ripe stag]

He can't even understand how to use Alisa

[carmine reef]

You're only hitting finality if there is like 1 second left on timer

[ripe stag]

You expect him to understand orb cancel ?

[ripe stag]

@sly geyser

[abstract heron]

luna

[rare anvil]

alr, thanks

[ripe stag]

Please send this to him

[tranquil flare]

Thank you so much!!!!! 🙏

[raw swift]

Wait finality ult is the variation of ult1 right

[carmine reef]

Yes

[tranquil flare]

I'm downloading this

[sly geyser]

but will he understand?

that's the question

[river nymph]

[tranquil flare]

So my Alisa is infinitas

[raw swift]

Why do you need an alisa guude

[sly geyser]

skill

[tranquil flare]

Is there an orb I should select that she gets

[sly geyser]

issue

[tranquil flare]

For her bonus

[carmine reef]

Yellow

[tranquil flare]

Why yellow

[carmine reef]

Cause gapclose

[raw swift]

Green

[ripe stag]

Now the proper way to use her

[sly geyser]

faster

[tranquil flare]

Oh okay

[glass bay]

omg bridget skin

[carmine reef]

Its the best gapclose in the game

[deft apex]

tractor skin

[tranquil flare]

Should I do yellow for my infinitas on luna

[carmine reef]

It doesn't matter

[river nymph]

🚜

[ripe stag]

Nah
Keep it at red

[river nymph]

[unborn hound]

is it possible to parry attacks with every character? also is parrying only possible on certain enemies?

[tranquil flare]

Oh okay I have a question

[silk smelt]

do i not get cw from event if i already have her?

[carmine reef]

Yes and yes

[sly geyser]

yesn't and yes

[ripe stag]

Parry is locked to certain enemies unless you are using characters who have inbuilt parry

[ripe stag]

What event

[silk smelt]

the member target research

[carmine reef]

There's no cw it's just a random typo

[tranquil flare]

Why do you guys switch immediately to a different unit off your tanks instead of doing an attack with tank before switching to get the shred bonus for whoever does 3 ping entry?

[river nymph]

[sly geyser]

don't use it for cw smh

[silk smelt]

bruh

[visual topaz]

I'm learning

[carmine reef]

3p entry does no dmg, you're just wasting debuff uptime on weak attacks

[visual topaz]

I still suck at cancelling Luna orbs

[deft apex]

same

i suck at canceling -> basic

[carmine reef]

What's there to suck at smh

[raw swift]

SS0 R1 Hyperreal what build does he use

[carmine reef]

Darwin

[silk smelt]

whose sig is better qu shukra or luna oblivion?

[carmine reef]

Both

Lol

[tranquil flare]

So it's better to just immediately swap off primary damage dealer then begin their rotation

[carmine reef]

They're both necessary for the character to feel like a character

[deft apex]

her dodge takes a while idk, it feels weird

[raw swift]

4sig 2cottie 2darwin?

[sly geyser]

are you talking about this ?
#📨・meta-help message

[raw swift]

Don't think I've ever heard of someone being bad at dodge cancelling

[carmine reef]

Yeah
You need ss3 to take cottie off for 4shakes

[autumn belfry]

why is chapter 13 such a pain to clear

[raw swift]

You don't need to clear the explore mode

[sly geyser]

just do the normal mode smh

[autumn belfry]

just stories?

[raw swift]

Yes

[frail hinge]

FK THIS STUPID GAME

[ripe stag]

GUYS

[autumn belfry]

nice

[ripe stag]

6 TANK GARNET DONE

[carmine reef]

[ripe stag]

[tranquil flare]

What's that mean

[ripe stag]

6 TANK RESO GARNET IS FINALLY DONE

[raw swift]

You need to clear EX-05 which is in Side>Extra there you can see the EX chapters

[sly geyser]

phys ? or void ?

[ripe stag]

[tranquil flare]

Oh good

[frail hinge]

Void ╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[sly geyser]

ah...

[carmine reef]

What invest

And also what division

[summer topaz]

damn the best i can get is wave 28

[visual topaz]

I can't even orb Weave

[carmine reef]

I tried void wz on feyer's account but he's in leader, it's so insanely different

[frail hinge]

1.5,2,2
1,0,1
111

[carmine reef]

They're so squishy

[frail hinge]

Luna wata feral

[ripe stag]

Who should I perfect reso now

[sly geyser]

wait luna is s5 ?

[ripe stag]

wait

[summer topaz]

i orb weave a little but i still suck at it the same with shakes wata rot

[sly geyser]

[ripe stag]

I need to get mats

[visual topaz]

I'm nowhere close to my invest score

[frail hinge]

Yea ppc skulls were a but short

[raw swift]

250k with solo pyroath is it good

[carmine reef]

Hero?

[sly geyser]

[visual topaz]

Wata shakes rot I do 4-5/6

[frail hinge]

IDK.MAN

[sly geyser]

thank u catch-up

[frail hinge]

Hey zex glorious spear or super conducting axial ray

[carmine reef]

I've never had an amp reso in my life

[sly geyser]

[carmine reef]

But somebody else said GS so

[frail hinge]

Uuuuugggghhhhh

[sly geyser]

why not both?

[frail hinge]

I like second opinions

[ripe stag]

Bought ton crap of mats

[raw swift]

But seriously is 1.6m void good for leader wz my invest is 222 115 110 or can I improve

[carmine reef]

Sorry that I'm poor

[tranquil flare]

Man I'm gonna hate losing all my infinitas buffs by redoing empy memory

[frail hinge]

My wata is r0 and you think ill do a second amp reso

[carmine reef]

Pretty bad

[sly geyser]

which one gives buff on heal between the two ?

that's the one u should go for

[frail hinge]

Waini thought the second set of numbers was for resonances

Son from 0-3

How's there 5

[raw swift]

5 star wepon

[carmine reef]

Feyer is in leader rn with 222 111 111 at 2.6m

[raw swift]

I'll try again soon

[ripe stag]

Haha

[raw swift]

I need to up my mald

[carmine reef]

And that's with empy

[frail hinge]

I thought the perma 8% boost would be stronger

The extra 2% from glorious spear doesn't seem much

[carmine reef]

So he'd be higher with a better amp

Also I'm 2.3m in hero with 222 110 111 feral

[raw swift]

Do I even swap to kaleido at all?

[sly geyser]

[carmine reef]

No not really

[sly geyser]

just test both smh

[frail hinge]

Esp when the 10% boost is from qte only

[raw swift]

I did

[frail hinge]

Yea imma test axial ray

[carmine reef]

If you do then it's just for 2 seconds to lingya

[mint jay]

What the HELL do these numbers mean?

[mint jay]

God

[ripe stag]

I'm at 2.5m but I didn't get the chance to mald Nihil warzone cuz this phones crap af (spare phone so yep...)
223 121 110

[mint jay]

Is this morse code???

[sly geyser]

they forgot to say 1.1 or 1.5 for s5

[wispy robin]

it's over for pgr

[raw swift]

I'll try it again update yall soon

[ripe stag]

PGR was alive ?

[sly geyser]

do we have a release date ?

[visual topaz]

Jesus

[carmine reef]

Some of the others in the corner server tried it and said the game is kinda clunky so its a skip from me

[visual topaz]

It can still go higher

[sly geyser]

k whel

[barren plank]

Does stronghold cost serum I forgor

[carmine reef]

Not anymore

[sly geyser]

not anymore

[barren plank]

[sly geyser]

free painge

[mint jay]

It looks meh imo

[sly geyser]

at least we got 3 husbandos

so there's still hope

3 husbandos for like what ?

20 waifus ?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936177246018895882/1322031512710811760/1263735698985586709.gif

[mint jay]

Pretty normal

[wispy robin]

wtf bb gacha is 70/30

[sly geyser]

not 100% ?

skip

[wispy robin]

og pgr devs fell off

[sly geyser]

they made arrival normal

[mint jay]

Nah fr, skip ts

[barren plank]

Also I heard chapters after Spiral of Chronos dont cost serum anymore?

[wispy robin]

at least weap is 100%

[sly geyser]

idk story skipper

[sly geyser]

oh so they inverted

[primal summit]

uhh guys? which one i should pick on selector?
currently i only had these character no 5 star weapon at all

[mint jay]

I heard that every chapter now costs 0 serum

Might be wrong

[sly geyser]

huuuuuhhhhh... does it matter anymore ?

[mint jay]

It doesn't lol

[sly geyser]

which s-rank do u have

[mint jay]

Just pick whoever you like

Choose with your heart

[barren plank]

Laurel from the large selector
From the small selector it doesn't matter much, but pick Entropy for the most value ig

[wispy robin]

pick ca so you can finish her quest for free vouchers
the rest of chars don't matter anymore

[sly geyser]

i mean according to what he has he can pick some copium characters

[ripe stag]

Once again

I won't need to worry about upcoming units

[primal summit]

im only had CW and new Luna
also im newbie so i had no idea which one to pick and which is better

[ripe stag]

[subtle zinc]

wave 32 omgis that legend or hero

[sly geyser]

nah u can just get who u want at this stage

[ripe stag]

CW

About that

[sly geyser]

LMAO those selectors fell off

[ripe stag]

[raw swift]

Bruh I can barely get past 1.8m what the hell is Luna rot anyway

[visual topaz]

Hero

[sly geyser]

what u doing in hero bro wtf

[subtle zinc]

amaze

[sly geyser]

also don't tell me u got ur cw in the banner selection

[primal summit]

so either laurel or CA ?
for the normal one is entropy the best choice?

[barren plank]

Laurel and Entropy

[sly geyser]

yesn't

[mint jay]

Weak

[ripe stag]

I had it like this

[primal summit]

yes when i still new at this game so i pull what the banner give

[ripe stag]

Used up most of it

[wispy robin]

whoever you will pick it won't be worth investing resources into them anyway

[mint jay]

How???

[sly geyser]

[subtle zinc]

about to start some more tries but I was struggling yesterday bear wave 19 is soo tanky

[ripe stag]

Leveling up units

[mint jay]

That's like 3k in materials

[ripe stag]

Told you

[mint jay]

You don't casually use this much up

[visual topaz]

Bro do I look like having an acc that can retain eu legend death bracket

[ripe stag]

Fun fact @sly geyser
The game auto selects CW

[primal summit]

oh, same like hi3 giving some free character that wont be used anymore 🤨

[visual topaz]

Answer is NOPE

I'm too smol

[sly geyser]

so the game auto brick accounts 💀

[subtle zinc]

what is this fluc level even is it bc of the bug before or something

[sly geyser]

ain't no way

[barren plank]

288

[ripe stag]

Yep

[mint jay]

Is having shakes on wata in Void team make a difference?

[wispy robin]

you should focus on investing into luna rn and theres haying and wanshi next patch coming so you will have 0 room for old irrelevant units

[ripe stag]

Big one

[sly geyser]

kuso cooking

[barren plank]

Massive

[mint jay]

Damn

[barren plank]

It's 15% shred

[mint jay]

Ok, I'll get him that shakes build

[frail hinge]

BRUH YOU LIARS AXIAL RAY IS WAY STRONGER

[barren plank]

huh

[carmine reef]

?

[primal summit]

is she bad tho?
i remember i heard a lot ppl says CW was gud and they waiting for her released on global/sea like... maybe 1 years ago, i dont remember when but that time i havent played yet

[sly geyser]

?

[frail hinge]

MY WAVE 19 DREAMS ARE POSSIBLE

[visual topaz]

Last rot fluc was 250+

[raw swift]

Where is the luna rotation guide

[carmine reef]

They're like barely any different

[raw swift]

I still can't get past 2m

[wispy robin]

she will be given for free in like 3 patches

[barren plank]

Oh yea SAR is somewhat better for WZ because of the consistent buff
But there's barely a difference

[frail hinge]

They absolutely are not man╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[primal summit]

i see, i was plan to save ticket for dmc collab tho

[carmine reef]

It's 2% diff vs like 2s uptime

[frail hinge]

There's like a whole extra wave of difference ╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[sly geyser]

like she's not bad but there was much better choices, like wata... also they giving her for free in a few months

[carmine reef]

It's basically no different

[primal summit]

aww crap glad i didnt pull her weapon yet

[barren plank]

You just got a better run

[sly geyser]

not to say that she's kinda ded

[frail hinge]

Idk how hut with axial Ray I actually cleared wave 18

[frail hinge]

I've been malding this for hours I'm pretty sure it's the Ray

[primal summit]

i ran out ticket at wata banner

[deft apex]

is 222 110 110 1.78m void leader bad?

[primal summit]

so anything i pick doesnt matter for selector

[carmine reef]

Yes

[sly geyser]

basically ur acc is bricked

[raw swift]

Ayla has no harmo should she still hold guin or eins

[barren plank]

eins ofc

[frail hinge]

Til consistency>power

[carmine reef]

I'm 2.3m in hero 222 110 111 feral
Feyer is 2.6m in leader 222 111 111 empy

[mint jay]

Wait do I also gotta harmo shakes for watanabe?

[remote pier]

[primal summit]

yes i aware that 🗿 okay then thanks for the help
I'll just gonna search youtube which one having a nice gameplay

[sly geyser]

[carmine reef]

Ofc

[deft apex]

harmo amp diff

[mint jay]

So he's harmo is permamently shakes, right?

[deft apex]

surely

[carmine reef]

Not permanent until lucia

[barren plank]

After Pyroath yes

For fire rn he's still stuck w Cottie

[carmine reef]

For now he's still cottie in fire, and shakes in void

You will switch between 4cot and 4shakes

[mint jay]

That's too costy

[carmine reef]

Its free

Harmo set is one time purchase

[spring bough]

who to pick?

[barren plank]

Laurel

[carmine reef]

You dont have to pay to swap back of you've already unlocked it

[mint jay]

Thank god it is

[ripe stag]

According to someon people

We are all Kurobots

Idk wtf Kurobot is

But it doesn't feel good

[shadow holly]

this chat is like the furthest thing from kurobots

[raw swift]

I run out of orbs after 2 Luna rots how do they manage 3

[wispy robin]

btw next patch they remove uniframe debuf so even kamu going to become much better than laurel

[shadow holly]

there aint no one glazing this company here

[ripe stag]

Basic weaving

[ripe stag]

I do glaze them

[carmine reef]

[ripe stag]

I don't have enough donuts to glaze

[tranquil flare]

I did it. I did it Daddy, I did it momma

[ripe stag]

So i glaze them

[shadow holly]

https://tenor.com/view/mika-blue-archive-misono-mika-pan-beats-you-up-gif-6371939372137962792

[barren plank]

I thought that was Nanami patch

[ripe stag]

Took so long what

[wispy robin]

wanshi

[carmine reef]

Yeah fabio surely the 2guin is your 900k score

[raw swift]

When do I basic

[tranquil flare]

I beat iron maiden in time frame

[barren plank]

Hanying is a solo patch

[ripe stag]

After every 3p

[shadow holly]

after everything
basically

[tranquil flare]

She was so hard

[raw swift]

How many times

[wispy robin]

they announced that wz is closing for rework this patch so it's unlikely already

[shadow holly]

all of them

[raw swift]

How many basics

[shadow holly]

all of them

[raw swift]

[shadow holly]

cw 2.0

wata shakes rot is more engaging

[barren plank]

[wispy robin]

i know but it can be typo or whatever

[barren plank]

Wah the

[ripe stag]

THAT'S A DCKING LEAK

QOFHQOFNWIFMPQQPQKT RHEIQLSODMLQ

[wispy robin]

all we know that rework wz is next patch and it's wanshi patch

[barren plank]

Wait what

[ripe stag]

FOR GODSAKE PEOPLE

TRY TO NOT BE A RE

AAAARHGHFJFNF

I CAN'T EVEN SAY THAT WORD

[barren plank]

BRO IT LOOKED OFFICIAL

[shadow holly]

[barren plank]

I THOUGHT THEY POSTED IT

[ripe stag]

Size not right
No Kuro logo
No official announcement

[raw swift]

How many basics is "all of them" supposed to be

[ripe stag]

[shadow holly]

just one basic after each action
kinda like wata bullet weaving works

[ripe stag]

I'm banning you guys

[primal summit]

im having dilemma, which dealing more dmg CA or Bianca Veritas tho?
lucia kinda cool looking animation but bianca kinda safer way since most of time i skill issue and get clap by the boss

[shadow holly]

3p, dodge, basic, 3p, dodge, basic, whatever

[ripe stag]

@barren plank I'm banning you

[carmine reef]

Basic weaving on any character is just 1 basic

[ripe stag]

Sorry mate we can't let you stay

[barren plank]

WAH

[carmine reef]

To trigger the orb gen cd

[shadow holly]

both do no damage by the current standards so ur just choosing between bad and bad

[barren plank]

AFTER EVERYTHING I DID IM BEING BANNED CUZ I THOUGHT IT WAS OFFICIAL

[carmine reef]

I mean thats your fault

It looked really bad and in no way official

[primal summit]

aww shet.... okay then

[carmine reef]

In what world is a blurry squashed resolution fanfic lookin ass poster gonna be an official announcement

[barren plank]

It looked pretty official to me the font and format looked like it was smth Kuro would make how was I supposed to know that just cause of the dimensions

[meager iris]

how is that even possible

[barren plank]

ADHD

[carmine reef]

You could've just verified it

[barren plank]

How would I do that

[wispy robin]

why did you think it was never linked here and only posted in a shady kr server 🐴 👁️

[carmine reef]

Twitter or game announcement

[subtle zinc]

void gamers do you prefer 2 or 3 cycle Luna luna I keep testing diff things and think I need to focus on one

[barren plank]

It was THE KR server

Sm1 had posted it

[carmine reef]

You need to specifically NOT focus on one

[barren plank]

And it looked legit, it's my bad but like how was I supposed to know

[wispy robin]

it's funny that it's still here and no one even bothered to delete it
kr mods literally nonsexitent

[carmine reef]

Void rn is literally just bending your luna whichever way is necessary to avoid bricking wata on a shield wave

[rocky valley]

gg was nice to know you

[barren plank]

Exactly that, the server's is no man's land and there's barely anything posted

[carmine reef]

And luna's rot has no issues being extended or shortened

[deft apex]

[carmine reef]

Nor is it difficult to do so

[deft apex]

it's a dream, of course it's not official

[subtle zinc]

Every 3rd wave has a shield , I do not see it as an issue as much as being very fast with the rotation

[carmine reef]

Luna can do a lot more than 3 waves per swap

[subtle zinc]

I agree ofc thats optimal play but its a brand new char and I just asked if people liked 3 or 2 xd

[carmine reef]

Yeah well i gave you my answer

I like whichever one doesnt run wata into a shield

[meager iris]

damn real phys malder

[carmine reef]

Shouldn't that investment be 3m +

[subtle zinc]

and im sure you know if you do 3c fast enough you can meet those check points but its hard to know while learning

[tall sable]

chat how would we rank the beginner experience in pgr

[barren plank]

Bad

[carmine reef]

Awful

[subtle zinc]

rotation speed always more important the fine tuning can come after am I really delisional or what

[frail hinge]

I FKN DID IT WRAAAAAGGHHH

[tired orbit]

red goat skin is goat

[tall sable]

aight fair enough

[frail hinge]

INFACT WAVE 20 IS AXTUALLY POSSIBLE

[tired orbit]

rigor

[foggy ridge]

congrats try wave 21

[carmine reef]

Rotation speed not the most important in void imo

[meager iris]

I went thro all servers I saw only 1 or 2 s+ whels who barely got 3 mill

[carmine reef]

If you go too fast you do hold ba before qtes are up which can actually mean you need to waste first tick of ult2 on clearing current wave instead of clearing it with the hold ba

[meager iris]

fluctuation is too high this week for phys ig

[carmine reef]

Which is sometimes not an issue, but sometimes is

[frail hinge]

WRRRRAAAAAAGH

AND I DIDNT EVEN OVERCOME NUMBER 2 FK

OK wave 20 malding

[meager iris]

what is the fluctuation in sea and na?

[carmine reef]

In legend i assume you're asking

[meager iris]

yea

[carmine reef]

I have no idea about legend

[meager iris]

[barren plank]

NA is like 288 iirc

[frail hinge]

Yall next time someone asks glorious spear or axial Ray please say axial Ray

[shadow holly]

this phys zone is ASS

[meager iris]

fr

[shadow holly]

mob zone no phys weather
high fluc

eww

[barren plank]

It really is

[shadow holly]

[meager iris]

it cannot get worse ig

[carmine reef]

Now just think how i feel with my cursed balter

Its so joever

[foggy ridge]

lets just say ive done that a lot and will do in this vid ima want to share

[subtle zinc]

thats helpful I will keep that in mind, I usually dont do my qtes before the holdba should it be when you are charging or

[meager iris]

I can't imagine someone mald ss balter this week in legend

[subtle zinc]

NA Leg is 288 fluc

[shadow holly]

honestly good team with ss3 balt would prob score close to sss

because its a tanky zone

[carmine reef]

Just like everything in void, "it depends", but if it means you can clear the wave, then you qte tank as soon as hold ba then amp 0.5s later to have dv qte up

[meager iris]

same as eu ok

[shadow holly]

if a squishier zone then sss can pull ahead quite far due to ult1 killing waves + killing waves with swordwaves

[meager iris]

look at my skill issue

[carmine reef]

Whel

[shadow holly]

[foggy ridge]

ok whel

[shadow holly]

i got like 2.2-something with 343

[meager iris]

btw thanks for the helicopter tech yours was wayyy easier and consistent

[shadow holly]

[foggy ridge]

ok whel 😭

[subtle zinc]

what is helicopter lol

[foggy ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/helebobter-gif-4633749728343719882

[meager iris]

I need to mald more last 3 days I didn't even touch warzone I was just malding tb

[meager iris]

3rd sw sss balter

[deft apex]

is 1.9m a bit better?

[carmine reef]

It can be done but you gotta zoom, and lowkey i feel like its not necessary to do so in void

[subtle zinc]

oh I´m so bad at that its like one thing I put off learning every phsy week

[carmine reef]

[foggy ridge]

lmao im bad at phys straight up

[deft apex]

2m min?

[carmine reef]

I'm certain you should be at least 2.4m

[foggy ridge]

well im bad at the game in general so why did even feel the need to say that

[shadow holly]

idk how it goes with SS wata tbh
I've only ever played SSS or higher

thankfully

[meager iris]

I used to do it the hard way so it didn't work consistently, until trs the goat showed up and show me da way

[foggy ridge]

its hard to recover if you fk up even a tiny bit

[carmine reef]

Like i said, it can be done with ss wata but there's no need

Its really finger breaking and all it saves you is amp fieldtime which ??? who cares

[meager iris]

this so whel

[carmine reef]

You'd rather just let your blaze orbs play out fully

It's more dmg than whatever the amp will do

[meager iris]

you should try ss to remind yourself that it sucks

[shadow holly]

[foggy ridge]

oh was i suppose to do that?

lmao ur defo gonna hate me here in a sec then with all this void wz mald

[carmine reef]

It depends on the scenario

[real jackal]

last story i finished was spiral of chronos, and im midway through renessaince du fantastique or however tf you spell that. how many more hours of story do i got?

[carmine reef]

And the scenario here is that luna swap is down anyway

[meager iris]

most the damage is from the blaze orbs

[carmine reef]

So all that happens from shortening wata rot is more fieldtime for amp

Not a good trade

[deft apex]

i'm too skill issued for that and you know that

[foggy ridge]

https://youtu.be/MOvCh8m9mgA im not willing to try do even do another route after this. and yes i meesed up a lot on some parts i was like 3 hours deep into this sht

[carmine reef]

You're in leader

Waves die if you breathe on them

[shadow holly]

ew story reading

[carmine reef]

Just pay attention to which ones you can kill with minimal or no qte usage

And also to which ones you can kill with first tick of ult2

Cause there's enough gap between first and second tick for a wave to spawn

[barren plank]

#🎲・glb-lore Prolly knows but the channel is kinda ded

[real jackal]

will copy psate in there then. im in no rush for an answer

[raw swift]

Bruh I'm still stuck at 1.8m in void with 222 115 110

What am I doing wrong 😭

[foggy ridge]

5? wtf?

[barren plank]

Do u not have a better amp

[raw swift]

No

[barren plank]

Rip

uuuuuh record rot

[carmine reef]

||I uploaded my own wz from 2 days ago btw||

[foggy ridge]

how tf u got a weapon reso of 5?

[deft apex]

this literally means nothing to me

[carmine reef]

? It means 5* wep

[raw swift]

It means 5* weapon

[foggy ridge]

oh sht LMAO i didnt know that

[carmine reef]

Surely if you thought about it for 5 seconds you could've figured that out

[foggy ridge]

IT DIDNT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT IN THE NOTATION GUIDE

[carmine reef]

Ult2 and also hold ba

[foggy ridge]

anyways im gonna be executed for that vid i just shared

[raw swift]

Should I swap to wata when it starts or to luna right away

[foggy ridge]

goodbye if i actually die

[tall sable]

is pulling for the weapons necessary

[carmine reef]

There are lots of situations where you can clear a wave with hold ba or with first hit of ult2

[tall sable]

well like how mandatory is it

[carmine reef]

Which leaves the hardest hit of ult2 for the next wave

[barren plank]

Modern characters really want their weapons yes, if not need them

[carmine reef]

Wata 1 rot then luna
After that wata 2 rot (assuming wata has rights)

[foggy ridge]

they are pretty important yes, however, if its at the risk of not guaranteeing the next s rank, hold off from getting it for now

[raw swift]

Wata diode torch or dlt

[foggy ridge]

dlt

[barren plank]

Lots of damage and orb regen and general QoL
Plus access to resos and harmo

[carmine reef]

Dlt for shakes

[deft apex]

oh really?

[carmine reef]

Yes

[tacit sentinel]

Depends on the characters, there are some characters where you can not have the sig and still be "alright" like LD and there's Oblivion who's veery sig reliant (she's almost unplayable without lol)

[carmine reef]

Or else you will struggle to double rot

Cause that second ult needs a billion blaze orb casts

[foggy ridge]

trust me i tried he doesnt have enough orbs to do his rot

[languid smelt]

when will qu shukra come to arrival construct?

[ripe stag]

Is this the correct pull order

[deft apex]

tbf i don't think I know how to shakes wata

[ripe stag]

[carmine reef]

Dont pull arrival

[deft apex]

what is his rot

[languid smelt]

bruh why

[carmine reef]

Scam

[ripe stag]

I just did whatever I can

[tall sable]

also is getting character dupes necessary

[ripe stag]

Wanna see my 2.5m run?

[languid smelt]

im already 60 pulls in im just waiting for a good character to come by

[tall sable]

it's not that important here is it

[ripe stag]

Only if whale

[carmine reef]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-gif-5848418847127216186

[barren plank]

Pulling for old characters is inherently a worse use for your BC since the old characters will die in the meta faster
As well as any character banner without a 100% rateup is also inherently worse

[ripe stag]

Biggest scam in PGR

[languid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/get-scammed-tyler1rage-gif-20100854

[foggy ridge]

whats ur invest?

[carmine reef]

You can get 1 dupe worth of shards for free from ppc shop
You can get more dupes for free from voucher shop, for certain units

[foggy ridge]

actually wait no it doesnt matter i was in leader when i was doing void wz

[ripe stag]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-death-dead-gif-12123813093863538966

[ripe stag]

It's a disgrace of a score for my invest

Don't ask

💀

[carmine reef]

Those are typically enough

[languid smelt]

someone take away my pc

[foggy ridge]

tbh mine is aswell probably

[ripe stag]

223 121 110 @foggy ridge

[foggy ridge]

i mean thats better than mine me thinks

[tacit sentinel]

is it okay to play Luna with Bridget on PPC if i also want to use epitaph for PPC to solo some stages? i am really lacking characters

[carmine reef]

Yeah it's okay

[barren plank]

That's fine yea

[ripe stag]

Yea

Actually

[foggy ridge]

iirc mine is 222 111 111

[ripe stag]

I think I should do it too

[tacit sentinel]

kay thx guys

[ripe stag]

15 + 15 + 15 shred

25 + 15 shred dv holder

[tall sable]

so how many of the current meta characters require their weapon like oblivion

[foggy ridge]

and empy rn is just ass for me. i cant harmo ayla just yet in order to replace her

[ripe stag]

Actually

No

[foggy ridge]

damn near and acutally, all of them

even if the weapon doesnt give much, you still need harmo

[ripe stag]

My Bridget gonna shred either 45% or 30% + 4 DV

But my Epitaph is gonna shred 48% + 4 DV

[carmine reef]

Most modern sigs affect playstyle significantly
Ofc you can play them without sig and they'll still be better than older units
But it is difficult to be competitive with other players if you are lacking sig
This is a meta channel focused on competitive performance, hence why we say here they are mandatoru

[mental sage]

Who should I pull?

[tall sable]

makes sense

[barren plank]

The new Luna this patch

[ripe stag]

Epitaph

[barren plank]

Watanabe Epitaph

[ripe stag]

If you don't have

[mental sage]

my current team is

[barren plank]

Use Bridget not Rose till u get Epitaph

[meager iris]

Ok luna needs a lot of malding I didn’t expect that

[ripe stag]

Yea
You need Epitaph

[carmine reef]

Use a different tank

[ripe stag]

Use Bridget in the mean time

[foggy ridge]

oh see if you have another tank that isnt rose. she doesnt work with luna unfortunately

[carmine reef]

Rigor is phys, doesn't work with luna

[meager iris]

Bro I saw empress wz video this is not normal

[mental sage]

who is rose?

[carmine reef]

Your tank

[foggy ridge]

rosetta

[mental sage]

Oh

[waxen vine]

rosetta rigor

[mental sage]

So should I just pull for Watanabe?

[frail hinge]

They said wave 19 wasn't possible

[ripe stag]

I should have added another team imo

I forgot about Bridget and Teddy

[frail hinge]

That I was a filthy casual

[ripe stag]

Yes

[mental sage]

alright thank you

[frail hinge]

You cnt

You told me glorious spear

We're you bricking me on purpose

[foggy ridge]

uhhhh

[nova forum]

BruH

[foggy ridge]

were you using gs instead of dlt for luna all this time?

[ripe stag]

Glorious spear is undoubtedly better when it's R1 on amps

[ripe stag]

He said amp

[foggy ridge]

oh i was gonna say wtf lol

[ripe stag]

Isn't GS for amps and GA for Attackers

[carmine reef]

? Luna cant even equip gs

[mint jay]

Average global pull order

[frail hinge]

Why tf would I use it on luna I'm not an idiot

[tired orbit]

why cottie at bottom

[foggy ridge]

I DONT REMEMBER leave me alone\

[frail hinge]

Glorious spear> barely wave 18
Axial ray> nearly wave 20

[carmine reef]

Atk minmax
Doesn't matter much

Dont really have to worry about it

Just make sure you're consistent on your own account for where you put your 2pc

[boreal lynx]

could i use teddy as a dps

[carmine reef]

So that its easier for you to swap them out

[mint jay]

Maybe you just got a good run

[carmine reef]

No unless you have literally no modern dps at all

She's good for an A rank, but she's still just an A rank. Any other team will blow her out of the water even off-ele

[frail hinge]

Nah its way too consistent to just be a good run

[boreal lynx]

i dont have enough teams for pain cage

[frail hinge]

Hell I fked up luna's last rot with my axial run and still got a better score

[carmine reef]

Then go ahead, your score will be bad but you can still get the participation rewards

[tired orbit]

i have 2 cottie in wata can i set einshteina without hypertuning?

[raw swift]

Bruh the recording corrupted it only saved 17 seconds I'm continuing tomorrow but I got 2m

[deft apex]

@carmine reef 2.04m?

[carmine reef]

I mean you can, but

You should hypertune it if that's going to be your permanent subdps set

[deft apex]

actually i'm not in leader i'm in hero

[carmine reef]

O

[deft apex]

i just noticed lol

[carmine reef]

Uhh you were like

222 101 110?

[deft apex]

222 110 110

[carmine reef]

Oh

So exact same as me but amp harmo

[deft apex]

what

[carmine reef]

Which is just 2guin

[deft apex]

no amp harmo

[carmine reef]

Yes

I have amp harmo

[deft apex]

oh ok

[carmine reef]

So i say like 2.1m or 2.2m for you

[deft apex]

so am I good now?

pak

[carmine reef]

Depends on you

Only you can decide how much you wanna mald

But the harmo wont even matter for most of the run

[deft apex]

only until u tell me i got a decent score

[carmine reef]

Cause luna overkills for like 75% of the run

[raw swift]

Uniframes are so fun it's too bad they don't do anything

[carmine reef]

Only matters in later waves

Hence why i think you should only be like 100k below me

Oh which amp are you using though