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i don't read jp either 
there is also one scene with luna where she talk smth with her lips but there is neither voice nor text for it for like 10 sec 
do i even bother trying out lightning lmao
I still need a video guide
i feel like im hella washed rn 
seems bricked
it's bad
look at leaderboard
because there's none LMAO
Lol if that happened to me I'd think she was just muttering to herself xd
which tifa
What tifa
but please try for science
phantim tifa cr
O
he's been at this for hours btw
if it's iron maiden im gonna rofl
I remember dying often though
The op haxed one that can fly
like ppc or just in the story?
I try brute force
actually tifa isn't even in ppc rn
that means it's prob CR
crash royale ek
Suppose Teddy Decryptor is used as healer/QTE bot or a Dark supporter, so only upgrading her Basic Atk will maximise those?
Yeah
i said this
oh i didn't see
Overflow
Trigger: During Coupling + Release Basic Attack, or Press and Hold Basic Attack until Coupling Ends to Auto Cast
During Coupling, release Basic Attack in advance to dodge. When an Extreme Dodge is triggered, Decryptor will cast Overflow automatically. Releasing Basic Attack with perfect timing during Coupling or pressing and holding Basic Attack until Coupling ends will also cast Overflow automatically. Decryptor gains Super Armor and 50% DMG Reduction during so.
- Overflow and Coupling share the same Frequencies, and every Computing Point will increase the Base DMG of Overflow caused by releasing Basic Attack with perfect timing or performing Extreme Dodge by 20%.
- Overflow - Low Frequency unleashes a powerful Grizzly Paws smash, dealing 300.0% Dark DMG.
- Overflow - Medium Frequency unleashes a powerful Grizzly Paws smash, dealing 500.0% Dark DMG and restoring 10 Signature Energy.
- Overflow - Low Frequency unleashes a powerful Grizzly Paws smash, dealing 500.0% Dark DMG, restoring 30 Signature Energy, and generating an Integer Overflow Field for 8s.
- The Integer Overflow Field restores HP equal to 80.0% of Decryptor's ATK to allies every 4s and applies Dark Radiation and Equilibrium Disintegration on them. While Dark Radiation is active, allies deal 10% more Dark DMG for 4s. While Equilibrium Disintegration is active, Decryptor deals 100% Extra DMG to Equilibrium Field, while allies deal 30% Extra DMG to Equilibrium Field.
i only saw the chat like up to 30 mins ago
Guess I'm cooked then
Integer overflow field that's what her QTE applies
I'll just tally the score
i mean sure
What team u using
Luna, wata, empy
48 now
im so ass at this
@livid lark wait wait i just realized that same scene had one more typo in it
あなたが人気者であると知っていますー> あなたの人望の厚さはしっています

man they cooked
omegalol
probably best i can go for void now
Luna is better than Full fire team on PPC TB?
I haven't even finished exppc 
sadly yes
I'm uploading video
... and the 3rd typo in the same scene
わたしー>あなた

man i'm scared to see what story will look like
@deft apex hey hows your typo hunting is going 
not that bad considering 3s garnet but still low lol
still can't outscore your other teams?
if i drop below 30 it's still 18 skulls lol
yeah
maybe just get r3 on everyone in lightning
surely it will compensate for being a weak team
my ice score remains at 0 because i dont have qu 
is it right if she stand outside of the zone ?
im so confused how to finish this
YOURE HERE
save sanity from being staggered
restart, she should not be like that
well yea but my skull income tho 😭
Enjoying the game
@turbid bridge 
I've seen some weird phrasng here and there buy im not a stoey reader so
i
IVE GOT QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STYLISH MODE
already at the start you did 2 things wrong
- not swapping to luna immediately after your UI becomes available
- not hitting ult 1 on watanabe right away
KIMIKA
you're moving way too much and not actually doing damage
how to finish 30-14 luna story man🥲
Also I'm not good with the immediately doing wata ultimate it's easier for me to stockpile shells the go into ult
tbh you probably need to set voice to eng to be able to catch the real gems like this 
JP and KR teams dying alr
Hell no 
solo carried by chat gpt
Do I just attack and try to ignore attacks?
And should I try to damage with Luna or wata?
wait for what
3
And how many units are available to use 
Which ones 
lucia cw hanyig garnet palefire
Garnet is a weird addition but 
oh
Which 3 bosses 
pyroath too right?
ish alisa veronica
question
why is feral's harmo recommendation guin?
only pyroath lucia
wouldnt 4x dvc be better than 4x guin?
what did she say can someone translate
which invest is it
um it's an emoji
for harmo
He did say lucia
what rank
Oh veronica
Is veronica hard
are your cw and feral
For bad translation 
SS feral, SS3 cw, both with sig
How's the after game recording work 
Like can ya save it directly to your device after the fact
Does it still show signal orbs
both have a weap reso
idk never tried
eh that's fine
the point of guin here is really the fact that
- You don't "need" QTE reset on garn, she performs QTE on swap to CW (if SS) and then another QTE later with almost full uptime coverage, plus one more for feral ult before she uses swap in core
- DV won't buff feral dmg but guin does
but isnt the buff DV provides stronger than the one provided by guin? i guess that only matters if you can get a clear without feral even hitting the field

How many chara have harmo for your lightning team
List out all of their equipment
DV buff is only for CW and garn
while 2pc eins 2pc guin on feral benefits everyone
not vera but i do have harmo on cw and feral
i cant remember why i harmo'd feral at the time instead of saving for the dark ones, oh well
all my main dps do have harmo
Why not use both 
theres no rewards for going beyond ss
so somehow i made a sub dps and dps version of wata without his sig, 4 pc sig + cottie.. red orb and sig for dps build, class skill and atk for sub dps wata(using with luna and will use for fire lucia in future.. my question is which version should i hypertune first
For warzone u can use something like
Cw 4 diesel 4 cottie
Feral 4 Fran 4 heisen
Garnet 4 tifa 2 Einsteina
For ppc it'll always depends, but in general
Cw 4 diesel 4 cottie
Feral 4 Davinci 4 heisen
Garnet 4 tifa 2 eins

Resonance can be skipped, just use Fran pieces on bottom row
wait heisen over guin?
Yes
if garnet harmo you transfer 4 heisen to feral right?
subdps
Heisen along with other elemental memories just got reworked
And its effect is massive
Class skill and red bro
Are there leader boards?
Not class skill and atk
15% light shred along with edb and other dmg bonus for feral boost her subdps dmg higher than before
no
Ss hell is mad easy lmao
It's a solid alternative when u don't have garnet harmo
Just overaggressiveness
I assume u didn't use USB for the atk resos? Just reroll it
i didn't even look at screen just mash lucia buttons and auto ss

someone told me atk is the one for tank wata

Who 
Thank goodness sss+ is there 
Yho the lack of rewards is disappointing

Hanying and lee are even more funny
Just constant spam vs echo
Literally braided parry everything



i didnt
Ok good
dw
Ye go get red
btw for luna, do you need to finish the hold basic animation before ulting, or can you press ult earlier without losing damage
dw, i might be dumb but not that dumb
Would that net sss+ tho?
No but idc lol
Ah have you tried out the recording system?
anyways, should i hypertune both versions
cuz his dps build is just for cope until lucia
Ideally they want u to both be aggressive and stylish
Standing in one place being too passive is also bad
Changes needed
Rewards for all ranks
Ofc!
But the aggressive part is enough for all rewards so 
Those who wish for a challenge then get to go beyond 

Or maybe just to sss
Where s+ is then to show off
Have ya tried going s+ I wanna know how difficult it is 
In ult mode her hold attack (dash) is unskipable
Didn't try but yeah, s+ hell should be difficult for me
Outside ult mode, her charge can be cancelled with pressing ult when available
@distant wren
Nope
Fk
I didn't even know there was one
Excuse me, Does anyone know how cleared [???] mission in stars ensnared stage 30-14 is?
Rate the mode tho 
Whaddya think 
im pretty sure you're just supposed to go in and do the content since it's probably a boss fight
and in basic mode? or should you do both hold basics in ult mode
Where you cam review the game afterwards
Pause
Turn camera around
Basically any halo theatre mode
It's the alternative ending i think they're talking about
That one is actually a little hidden
It's good-ish if you enjoy these parts of pgr gameplay i suppose
oh ok
U can cancel hold outside ult with ult
It mostly about minmaxing wether u do hold inside or outside ult mode
so experimenting
What are your issues with the mode 
also i just realized, since when is optimal reso for feral core passive instead of ult? or has it always been core passive and i'm just a dumbass?
It's core passive
I'm guessing the game mode can get repetitive due to moveset limitation?
Sort of
Moveset limitation?
We had confusing between core and ult on feral release because not much people cared about feral (too much solo cw simp)
More so than Meta rots?
But at the end, core passive is more beneficial in warzone
Also some units' animation lock on certain moves i didn't like
With core passive resonance on feral, you can use her orb and scratches to finish a wave
And use ult on entirely a new wave
Like who?
Thanks
Like cw slam for example
Better than slightly more ult dmg when her ult already kill wave within the first 10 wave without resonance
@fresh plover
They lock away her slam during certain moments?
2-3s just to go up go up and down 
is luna slow or I am being pepega? 
define slow and what you're doing
Hello guys can yall recommend who I should build here? I just got them recently
Animation lock = can't cancel out of animation

What next after Luna patch?
makes sense
Wasn't cw's slam always an animation lock?
slow means she takes really long time to do her moves 
bruh what should I buy at the event shop ?
Like lamias plunge
it's actually a teddy/luna/bridget patch but after that it's hanying+wanshi and maybe lucia
too many
Stuffs like that, or with palefire shoot mode to a certain extent where u can't end it early

Which is why i didn't feel like she was a good choice
also, is it just my skill issue with fire or is lightning team better than fire team for trailblazer ppc
Another 3 in 1?
um, not exactly from what i've tried so far
We got
Wanshi: lucid dreamer
S rank. Ice tank
And
Hanying: solecetune
S rank
Physical tank
2 in 1 at least because sync patch
Aaaahhhhh
it maybe a 3 in 1
Also I saw there was a taunt but I may have misheard?
Cw coating is included too?
she takes long ass time to do anything compared to watanabe 
the yakuza one?
Yes
if the lucia patch drops then yes
ok so how are you using her
Another triple rewards 
it will come for sure 
i got infinite matrix slowmo in twins fight
will be that way until we're on the same patch as cn
Ohhh
remember that its 3 patch in 1 so triple is not really triple 
no
No wonder weekly task black card rewards is 3k 🗿
triple resource rewardds * triple serum given = 9*resources
I was surprised when I cleared Norman
going unga bunga.
swap in 1p>hold basic>ult 1>3p>1p>hold basic>ult 2>3p>1p>hold basic>ult1>3p>1p>hold basic>ult 2>swap out
hey so i made every resonance on my cw alpha like this
+1 basic attack
1+ signature move
is this good?

signature reso only for sss
I got Luna in just 10x🗿
hmm
have you tried holding basic after ult 1?
i find that works as well
maybe won't make the rotation faster but it's honestly not the worst thing in the world
go for any +15atk
dang
if i change them will the hypertune stay?
guess are this the correct ones for luna's cub?
yes
yes
oh 
ht never goes away
yes to both :Evi;
alright good to know i thought i was cooked
you still are dw 
also I really need to gib her dlt it seems. wheres that guy who said luna doesn't need dlt? 
@tranquil flare very rough run but it got the job done, I tried to replicate your invest as much as possible (on seeshell I used the 4% edb per orb ping passive only)
Who do I SS first, epitaph or luna
I was too lazy to reset for a smoother run lmao
You got your answer twice 
Btw it might've been smoother if I started with one wata rot so you could try that if you still struggle
Why the pain cage gives more skulls than usual 
sync plan
any1
both 
i have been trying for almost 10 hours already, i still cant get it right... im pretty sure im doing the rotation correctly as well...
both lunas need dlt, they eat ||skk's|| orbs like crazy
let me see wut they do
Luna non dlt is so brick because she technically CAN do 2 rots but the time waste on extra basics is detrimental since she's not solo
Luna's orb economy is actually horrid
luna first tho, i did it cuz i love her 
My Luna just S with signature weapon 🗿
Does anybody have a rotation for Luna teddy and Bridget or do i just run Luna as the core all the way with the usual rot
wait someone said she didn't need dlt?
Luna solo
yeah 
Alright
man 
Honestly it's seriously insane that she somehow struggles with orbs even with laurel's orb mechanic
restart and do better
I made some improvement I couldn't beat her at all before
Noice
is investing harmony onto Luna mandatory
Oh 💀💀
i would highly recommend it yes but if you can't then dw about it for now since cottie 4pc is just damage up
Guys I'm cooked I finished all the story🗿
How are you gonna beat the last boss lmao
I do have enough for one
Yeah I got caught in spike attack and thought I could run away but they kept coming
So she died
Can anyone answer me?
he can't access 
do luna 1st
I can think of other units that are definitely higher priority but her harmo is really good for consistency + better dmg
Ok
Cottie super armor is busted
Other than luna, i only have plume and chrome ice tank rn
I'm sure I can beat last boss because no other boss is as nonsense as this one
its disgustingly ridiculous 
Lmao luna then
But I just have to make it pass iron maiden
Literally built plume and then suddenly qu shukra came out
U can do 3 rot with non dlt luna

If your wata wasn't sigless I would've said yes for sure but idk lol
should have catched up to informations
U Just need to abuse basic weaving more
Yeah but slow as hell 😭
In ice team ayla runs 4 guin 4 dv?
Asking for both pre and post wanshi
Nope
Yeah
Well these no time limit on last boss so it don't matter
It's last fight
Luna basic attack is so fast, u can regenerates orb for 3 rot easily without wasting too much time
I just have to beat the time gate on stage 13
Well now you know to check the character release timeline while we still can
mhm
well shucks to be me i guess
Well there's no hard time limit but trust me you don't wanna go much beyond the 90s mark
U always want to extend Luna rot as much as you need
So that you can build up the necessary dash and ult for a shielded wave
Amp buff aren't a concern for Luna, ur main concern with void is you want to sustain Luna rot long enough to kill the necessary shield wave
Why
Interesting hmmmm
Your characters will literally start gradually dying and losing ult energy lol
Who do i choose for the s-rank pick when given the chance
Although while saying that, it's still possible to do proper rotation with r0 luna
build lucid dreamer
True but also what dash? You mean held ult?
i know Echo is an amplifier but is she fine being a dps?
Bot useless
Cake eater
Hold basic
Moongyatt
The dash thing
Moon eater lol 😭
Oh he's lightwork
well
Cope comes to cope
it works
there were a ppc vid of alisa dps
Remove the space after slash
but ur getting hanying next patch anyway
Main Tank Set
Main Tank/Sub-DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Recommended for all ranks
General Tank/Sub-DPS set
This unit has not been released on Global yet. Please take these builds with a grain of salt as they are subject to change.
4x Liston
2x Einsteina
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
None
Can I use watanabe epitaph as a tank replacement for wanshi on my ice team? Because I don’t have chrome glory
Can anybody suggest me ayla mems for ice team
So luna 2rot is consistent with r0?
Both with and without wanshi
Yeh
better use changyu
I mean I WAS doing 2rot in the video I just recorded without dlt lmao
U can extend to 3rd still if needed
Just need to do more basic
Ok
wata works BUT you need to know what you are doing
you can use qu garnet luna if you have her
But idr if it was particularly optimal
I have qu shukra and Ayla kaleido on my ice team
I probably wasn't weaving correctly for it but I'm too lazy to watch back
yep as said before
use changyu unless you are high competitive player and know indepth of each unit kit
which one
Don't stress it too much just use changyu and put einsteina on him, next patch we get wanshi so us 5* ice tank sufferers will be saved
Changyu is better than wanshi?
what is the longevity of sss r1 empy at this point?
Still hasn't been replaced yet in CN at least
Yeah
I think I'll put davinci in my empy
They are 2 different classes lol
Did they already add glory shards in voucher shop on CN?
You didn't already? 😭
i mean
changyu is tank
hypnos is support
diff class
plus amplifier overtake hypnos role
Why would they lol
and tanks is ALWAYS needed
Wait what let me check again
Oh I got the classes mixed up mb
Next patch wanshi gets a new frame, this one is the ice tank
^
Ok thx
Maybe you confused them together
next patch new wanshi
S ice tank
BEST ice tank
Why not? Like they're gonna put stigmata already in there (based on what I saw in grayravens) lol so why not glory

AND very accessible and easy to rank up
because stigmata got leap
Do you think the new wanshi is gonna have any field time or is qu just gonna hypercarry
because stigmata got a leap
Glory didnt
glory is perma benched
Wanshi coming to save us copers
equal invest = swap team
Fk, guess I'mma wait for another srank box then 
The only characters in there are either leaped characters or free characters (lucid, kaleido, alisa, etc)
Wanshi is in a few weeks 😭
No I thought that was ppc only tactic
Makes sense, thanks
. And others too thanks
Is she supposed to have dav all the time now?
yes
She don't use Elizabeth no more?
no
Well no she definitely runs dv everywhere unless she's main/secondary dps for whatever niche reason
no
So dv for all content?
yes
Yeah
she's qte bot
When that happened
Glory Just for collection rate 
when wata released
epitaph release
Ah
so like
2 month ago
So dv and eins?
Yeah unless you don't care about meta and specifically wanna have chrome just because, it's definitely not worth getting him anymore whatsoever
At base S with 5* wep wanshi is still better than glory with sig and r1
dv ein
dv ein guin
Not even comparable in terms of dmg out too
Aha ic
Should I harmo empy?
Should I get signature weapon on epitaph first or lamia

If you already have everyone you need ig you could just use the free selector this patch on him, the selector is lowkey obsolete for a lot of us atp lol
Depends on what you have/what you want though
you should check your stock for harmo wanshi and hanying
If enough,then go for it
epitaph but only if you make sure you have enough for the next S ranks first
Prioritize main dps first
Will need it for hyperreal 
Till next cycle
Lamia can work with 5* even if it's painful but wata straight up flops without sig lol
Ah gl then
Maybe you get him from standard banner off rate or something after selection reset 
Wdym enough
Enough bc/tickets
If you going to pull sig weapon for Wata can you afford future units? Like Hanying
15k bc to get a char 
Nah i just have a free signature weapon ticket
Or should I save it for future units
you cant save it for future units
def use it for wata he feels unplayable without it
are there specific calcs for how much +15 attack is contributing to the overall damage of a character? 
dont free signature weapon ticket come for a limited roster?
Is epitath dependent on sig?
y not, I’m able to get Luna oblivion sig, and I got the ticket before her patch
question out of curiosity
it updates
kinda
learn something new everyday
if you're talking about the red orbs then yes because that's where most of his damage comes from
5* wata struggles to even perform 1 double rot
with how strict lucia rot is it will be practically unplayable
I feel like I’m just gonna save it for wanshi lucid dreamer cuz I don’t have a full fire team
Wdym u don't have full fire team
I have a ticket that gives me any sig weapon for free
Still have my check, will be using it for Hanying if my estimation is right because they add s-ranks on the list after 3 months.
Hanying, Wanshi, Lucia,
And Yata Patch will be the 3rd month so I hope she gets added before check resets on Pyroath+Ishmael patch, assuming the following updates will be 2 patch each month else I'll do that
Does Lilith replace lamia
Ezra get out of your alt
And I was gonna use it on epitaph but he’s my only fire unit lol, whereas I have qu shukra and Ayla kaleido on my ice team

hes literally your entire fire team
Real
Use it on epitaph then
U don't hyperfocus on 1 team, spread ur resources on every element
Ok
ok I’ll do that then
Omg PGR x CODM collab?
is it worth to hyper tune sub dps wata? i use him with luna now and will use him for fire lucia in future
Damn, synchronization fk up my brain so bad 
Too much planning

speaking of planning.. i tried to push my luck for sss luna 💀
i can spend like a goldfish but not too much so i stopped 
It’s fine, pity is not going anywhere
anyone?
mommy hanying next so fr
Yes, with Lucia he will use shark
how much do i have spend to get every rank with their wpn if my luck is average?
no sig tho
for now i dont pull for sigs except for dps
should i start moving wata's res to class passive?
When is the next gacha skin
Still worth, extra dmg is nice
cant.. cuz i can spend but i am still f2p for now
..
More temptations
Do it
Anyone here is in advance PPC?
U made 2 Alphonse sets? Why
Such a waste of resources 
Surprisingly my hatred towards anyone related to alpha helps in not being tempted
you pull for luna sss but not for sigs? 🐴
uh why

I need the reward list
Rewards?
"except for dps"
That's a brick
except dps like i said
what are you looking for exactly
the only thing that matters in that is the skulls and in advanced ppc it's pretty small

again someone told me too 😭
Yea
Like
That's literally worse than pulling sigs for non-utility units
How many bc are we getting for this patch to next patch? I lost luna weapon once and i am afraid that i will fail to pull nanami later on? Nanami is very important for lightning team right?
was it altera?
you were present in chat during that @pine slate
Yea i want to see how much you get in advance rank
wata is current fire dps tho
and with lucia he is like half of her dps with shakes
Skulls of course
at 1% you'll get 48
Before Nanaknight we have 2 units btw
with current sync patch you multiply that by 3
should i change wata sig reso to class reso? may screw my fire wz but buff nihi

There another version which is a little diff...I have no ss
who is the mf who made me suffer farming for alphonse again 😭
should make a new set if you want to do that
Next patch is wanshi and who again? Are there any must pull chara?
I'm actually surprised by the fact that wata's damage still stands out despite how busted Pyroath's damage is
hanying is a must
oh im still used to ppc before pre-luna
Then i will be xooked if i pull now i will have zero bc
That's UPPC
but then once lucia drops wouldnt it be a waste of mats? or sig reso works for ppc?
I am so headache
does advanced still have ranks?
Wait
Advanced don't have milestone based rewards no?
Idk
I haven't touched Advanced since forever'


hmm... i guess you can put up with it for now? but like honestly if you want to do that just wait until lucia
aight got it, thanks much
No idea about how many unit will come next, time line is Haying> Wanshi>Pyroath>Yata> Nanami >Ishmael> Lilith > Selena
Should i sacrafice luna weapon for hanying or hanying for luna weapo @livid lark
I never told anyone to get 2 Alphonse set, I think it's outright stupid 
hanying -> wata -> pyroath -> yata -> nanaknight -> ishmael -> lilith -> selena
That 4 class reso isn't gonna increase ur score by 500k
no.. i have 4 alp for both 💀
The proper way (if devs got brain) to do the upcoming patches is by doing 2 patches combined in one
I don't care for yata and pyroath is another must pull right? I am so cooked damn the 50 50 weapon loss
Yeah, u got 8 Alphonse memories right?

4 for main dps set, 4 for the sub dps set?
Hanying Wanshi
Pyroath Yata
Nanaknight Ishmael
Lilith Selena
just ignore the weapons then for now
That's what I'm referring to
The hell ishmael right after nana? 
Waste of resources
You tatsuya ?
there is a fairly strong theory that Hanying Solo patch followed by X3 patch they doing in Japan
Might as well ask me to pay directly
Cope theory
Nah, in my bracket I am 3 

Back to back to back to back S ranks
cant wait to come back on this : )
well then dont pull weapons lol
plan for characters first
then if you're in surplus pull for sigs
Can’t beat guy with 4.6 mil 
The problem is the 3 is a super must pull i am 100 percent cooked
I have about 30 pull and i lost a damn 80 percent
just pull sigs later when you're confident you have enough for the future s-ranks
If its true then i gonna lick pulao armpits
Deal
your aim is to have units available for all content
weapon banner is permanent

I ald save because i know luna is weapon dependent i even skip shukra weapon qol
Hanying - Paid S rank
Wanshi - Free S ranks
Pyroath - Paid S rank
Yata - Free A rank
Nanaknight - Paid S rank
Ishmael - Paid S rank
Lilith - Free S rank
Selena - Paid S rank
as long as you know patch duration + weekly income, you can estimate how much BC you can get
debut banner doesnt last forever
am i cooked?
@raw swift everyone except yata is MUST
I wish to be like this xD only Namami Ishmael S to S , the rest is ez xD
wont they also s+ yata like bridget and teddy?
It's gonna be hell for F2Ps to keep up btw
Nana and ishmael is a must too tho i read somewhere if i don't pull my endgame might as well be bricked for the next 6 month
Yes
Yata is A rank so no use
Everyone is MUST as I said
Not just Nanaknight and Ishmael
No Hanying means no trueslash and physical
No Pyroath means no fire and ion
Powercreep is crazy 
No Wanshi means no ice and Glaciation
whose wpns are must for f2ps?
No Selena means no physical again and Glaciation
from the upcoming ones
Maybe i should skip hanying? I don't have physical main dps yet tho only entropy
my physical is ald bricked anw
No Lilith means no saving the dark team and Ion from Daren cope
hanying will be ur physical dps im pretty sure
Hanying IS the Main-DPS
Ee i thought someone told me she is tank the f 2 main dps S back to back
Sigs always must now
How many S ranks do u want?
Kuro: yes

based
Well wanshi is fine without sig and shukra too is just stress playing. Luna is literally dead without sig. I test her vs my watanabe she lost a whopping 20 second clear time from watanabe :v
looking at the ss0 nihi runs, im so cooked
Qukra without sig
Uh
2.5m one tap I can't mald cuz phone died literally
Tank are main DPS xD like Fire Wata, Physical Hanying, Lightning Nanaknight 🙄
qukra without sig is poopkra
I can’t even tell how chars feels without a sig. The last char I played without sig was Balter and she was okay, cope ofc but durable, now I have no idea 
wym balter was ok?
lilith-selena-jetavie probably for another x3 patch
she's trash lmao
Because we are getting lucid dreamer free to patch a bit for qukra out of field timr
She's the last character who's sig wasn't that big of a QoL
rip, i have been trying to get over 3.2m for the past 10 hours and its even better invested than the 3.4 ss0 teams
game gonna make me break my f2p status soon 
BRO WTF
I'm cooked
💀
nah balter without sig always been trash
It wasn't as bad as say.....Empy without sig
💀
Empy without sig
Does every character from now on needs sig
Always have been but idk she felt cope but durable for me
Pure nightmare fuel
how those ss0 runners do 3.4m is beyond me, i have copied all the different rotations with no dice
empy without sig vs Ballard 
Oh fck next rot is Ballard
I'M TOTALLLLLLLLY FCKED
"you can do fast rotation and get ult fast ult without sig trust me bro " 

Am i just playing luna wrong or luna is just that bad without her sig. How can she lost to older chara (epitaph) sigless
lmao
so someone with brain tell me.. wata dps and sub dps build.. no troll please
Next rot is Ballard and emperor? Is emperor even there? 
Yes
Emperor and Ballard

dang bro i wish i had that level of cope
"need" as in its a very noticeable change in gameplay and comfortability in playing especially in repeatable and endgame modes. but if youre a casual or f2p or someone who just doesnt prioritize ranking high its not the end of the world
Alrighty
hmm
I'm too addicted to having sigs even though I'm F2p
I have been given too much power I guess

Well the qol is crazy esp in qukra
trailblazer and sharkspear has to be some of the most annoying bosses ever
"f2p"
forced 2 pay
more like whel in disguise
Tried no sig Balter just now
time to see cubs skippers bwing surprised they do 0 dmg
Can you have multiple hyper tuned sets
lmao i told u she's trash
Wha? Now they tie qol to cubs too ? -_-
as long as u have ht mat yes
After playing Rosetta, Luminance and Balter without sigs, leaps and on S rank
Playing Balter without a sig was nothing 

Wata cub is one of the reasons he can NUKE
Without sig unit feel me like : well dressed but without pants 🤭
lilith was already doing this
Well he still feel nicw to use sigless and cubless tho
Besides empy who else holds dv and eins primarily?
How many upcoming characters need SS3?
Every amp becomes DV slave
but lilith cub is free
its funny how the 5* weapons are basically useless
So amps are just the new healers
What os dv?
Like how healers were dv
i say the boss 
f2ps will come and say "Who needs pants when u got ma big dik"
ah 
Hanying for trueslash
Pyroath and Ishmael's performance at SS0 and SS3 have heaven and hell difference
Nanaknight SS3 is mostly ignition effect and shred
In that case might as well skip the whole chara aint no way i am pulling for cub. Sig is ald bad enough.

ss+sig+harmo+r1+cub as a baseline to get 580k score of all new ppc bosses (not counting supports resos ect)
no cub is ~550k only
Da Vinci
Aaaa
And they dive to gacha coating instead
Is 21 feral a unique case
true f2p plays a rank with 5* and lingya 
Is she still dv
all those non-free S rank SS3 look important lol
If built
TRUEE
where's the catch?
My feral is SS3 r1
looks decent for me
SS3 Pyroath and Ishmael feel like entirely different beasts
is ishmael preferred as tank or as amp?
-_-
SS0 is incomparable to their SS3
What should feral hold rn

Tank
what's the recommended setup for ishmael and luna and what role should ishmael get
Amp loses damage
wait i didn't read it right 
Is pgr secretly worse than hsr? Genuine question no hate and please don't reply with hate
Ishmael is 4 sig 4 Cottie
And she's the main-dps
She gets tank role
what's the caveat on making her an amp instead?
I find it really funny how antagonist in the game become playable characters
hoyo games are a joke compared to pgr since theres no leaderboards
Bro probably is coping
Like how Roland is under command
I think its some rot issue, tbh i don't really remember
bro peeps are coping for things that are not even copable
or maybe just uninformed?
- either can't hold buff memories or can't hold 4 Cottie for damage
- general damage loss cuz value of buff is lower than shred
- it's an amp bro, weak already
Ik but you know hsr only have two thing to pull. Pgr have 3 thing tho indeed pgr chara last longer
But you have to almost pull everything anw
like cow is literally free
Might as well say the chara last 1 patch
You can slap 2 Eins 2 Guin on the qte amp
Well game is still arguably better. However with how Kuro's been managing things its not looking too hot
Gameplay wise i agree pgr is far far superior. Story wise i love pgr too more than hsr
pgr meta is made with assumption that you are buying at least mpa and both bps each month
I don't think you can compare
Two different genres
The pull value is already leagues about HSR in PGR
But
Kuro's way of handling their non CN servers is making it worse
More of the pull issue
i think if you wanna compare its probably hi3 vs pgr
Never played in hsr can’t tell 
Can't compare
Their meta changes too fast
Don't tbh
you're not exactly forced to pull for cub unless you are competitive enough
I guess maybe really because of this. Let us see after the acceleration stop 
No off-field shred unless tank goes on field to ult, having Ishmael as amp means either no shred coverage for waves or you waste Luna & Ishmael field time for tank to come on field and ult
If you wanna play FGO but 3D? yea sure
Man
yea but if we are doing genres they both are similar. but ill agree that hi3 meta is bollocks
once you try playing with cub you will never be able to get back because it will feel like you do 0 dmg
I need to catch up story before Ishmael patch
I downloaded, logged in and altf4 game almost immediately 
Tbf
Even FGO's gacha seems friendly compared to HSR's
Maybe cuz FGO has no meta system
Whats with this
At some point during WuWas Echo development Kuro felt it'd be nice to have Pocket monsters and added cubs
FGO?

Fate Grand Order
Yea pgr meta is not changing but you are force to pull chara every patch to stay in meta and i am fine with that and the sig i am fine too then they add cub i start questioning 
exactly
Not rlly, just some wasted mats
Do you literally just use normal ice team for this?
Even FGO got their Ishmae......wait who's that
Ngl pgr 100% rate up rebuild my brain, every time when I see 50/50 I want to puke 
in ppc makes more difference because normaly you don't switch characters and you want to nuke the boss as quickly as possible
can i keep thE subdps build for now?
Bricked, ice no lantern 
isnt hsr the same thing but worse as you cant use old characters to survive?
What about “assault I”
Nihil
FGO Solo(mo)n >>>>> Kuso Solon
Yeah, I'm not telling u to change it
What I was tryna say is that class reso on wata isn't worth rn
Does it like actually need that or is that just what you recommend?
U could've just kept ult reso, then fully switch to class once pyroath drops
Solo||mo||n
ice at gundam so much fun 
then i will build him again properly one day when i have his sig.... atleast 2 of my pieces have good reso
It needs that
The gimmick is based on the element
What time u got
a big fat 0
didn't even finish my normal gundam runs yet lul
i have both 💀
i mean isnt "normal" ice is just 1 build for everything 
for a whal ? no 
i have 8 fully resonated alp set 💀
PPC build
Hsr older chara can clear just the issue is it is very targeted toward uninform people that dunno what a must pull chara for their account. Are they predatory? Yes. But they don't make you pulk for the lc and content is clearable quite well as long as team comp is met. Pgr on the other hand the more ik the more questioning i am is pgr secretlt more predatory than hsr 
just heard it's insanely annoying to play ice there cuz iframe and stagger fest
controversial
4 with sig and red orb...... 4 with red orb and class
Why doesn’t it just say nihil? Is there a keyword associated with it in there?
Well it's better but like, waste of mats
does the voucher shop rotate through characters on each refresh?
wanna know if it will get to luna's shards eventually or if they are just not there period
||i mean laurel btw||
JUST
SEE
THE
DESCRIPTION
WHere are other 2 difficulties?
Removed
both ppc and wz are qu with friends anw
tbh only took like 3 days but a lot of serums gone
Reworked
Scores are readjusted to have 3 nodes now
Nah, it's the hypertune mats
Sharkespear is super cute.
You could’ve just said yes, but how am I supposed to know if they use one or not sometimes they just can’t be asked to explain anything
Nope, what you see is what you get. Voucher characters are usually dorm character, leaped characters or free characters
Firstly, Laurel why?
Secondly, no
Maybe i am too uninform with pgr but my bc count indicate that if i pull for luna weapon my account is bricked yet for some reason my bp for wata and luna is same yet i clear faster with wata????? Yes this mean old chara not crept but it raise the issue since nihil is new teamcomp the without weapon my new comp is bricked
there is no game with higher amount of fomo bait than pgr
they literally perfected their art here
well it could have been worse if i didnt ask here, 3 hypertune wasted
👍 fight fair with your enemy
When you look into it, its actually pretty damn evil
Use what?
should i hypertune dps wata tho? for now i have no fire dps other then him
because i like her and don't care about the meta
simple as
Didn't expect this from a medea simp
Smh


Another one. Uses "" I dont care about Meta" to excuse bricking and stupidity
I guess i will stop i don't want to ruin chat mood
Have a nice day everyone love you all
sounds gae
just go simp in Deepspace
TOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
Time to ruin the chat mood
@pine slate
as if this chat was in any mood since the synchro started 
Who is this?
single target burst
TOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
im still wondering why would you compare hsr (not really competitive) to pgr instead of hi3
Understandable, same 
Pgr?
idk what i'm doing wrong with luna but i'm not getting 3 rotations with luna
Ezra not off-topicing with another game challenge for a day: Impossible
You think PGR can have cute waifus like this?
Sig issue same with me
Tale as old as time
That's too much to ask
Then hsr? 
i have her sig
Wtf? No that's GFL 2
Then idunno too😅
Aaa i dont play the game mb
Need basic weaving
nanami is not cute enough for you ?
No male chara that o can goon to 
I have to do co-op if I simply want to get teddy's 5*
should i hypertune feral scent 
She's lead everyone to their doom
I don't think I'm lucky enough to gacha it smh
But atleast she's cute
it has a chad mc with insanely good voice tho

Should I build teddy for upgrade for dark team?
Nanami harassing the forsaken

Yes
what are good times for ppc atm?
sometimes wonder how Nanami copes with the responsibility
What Robo drug/juice does she drink
motor oil
She just Nanamis it out
You guys should really learn from Nanami
she became magic girl , thats enough for her
Do you know about any guide what stigmatas to use? Spider2b doesnt have guide on her and im not sure whether her signature stigmatas will be worth since I think she still will be full time off field.
i cannot get the 600+k for shark
Thank god Utena doesn't know about her yet
do better
Hiragi Utena? 😮
Nanami is so funny
She made me like the first 1-8 chapters
thats fine
Nanami should have fought crimson abyss
I love when she went to ARU and called a bear mech martin
Nanami would save Babylonia!
Idk
Probably 3 Summer Koumei ?
That junk was hilarious
Well, would have made alot of events not happen
Ploom wouldint have been required
Nanami chainsaws through Qu!
Isn't nanami immune to the virus somehow too
She's what
should you be able to 2 cycle shark with luna? because if you do, i dont know how lol
I forgot I needed to learn Nanami lore
sometimes shark seemingly dodges damage
To me, for now
She's a silly ai with a chainsaw
That's also incredibly strong for no absolute reason
awakened machines are immune to punishing virus
isnt the hyperreal construct immune as well or smthin
absolutely not
@wispy robin Summer Koumei will be good stigmata set for Teddy right ?
should be able to yea
if she has i-frame then just restart and pray to rng
Knowing she basically was just using the lotus frame and beats up Lucia, uh yeah...
oioi chat is being sus
Nanami not win :(
canonically lotus did not beat alpha
How's that possible
how to build bridget to use with dps wata?
wut did i just read 🐴 ❓
I just heard somewhere that crimson abyss is just a ragged up Lotus frame
Oh man I needs to catch up
4 dv 2 eins prolly




