📨・meta-help

[mighty tusk]

Meanwhile we're cooking wz runs

[heavy whale]

DMC collab coming later this year, so yes they are cooking

[dapper skiff]

People still learning void rot

[heavy whale]

Dante and Vergil's models in tbe teaser look fantastic

[dapper skiff]

Also wz max score is just a myth

There is always

ALWAYS

[lusty tendon]

See the new guy gets it

[heavy whale]

(Can't believe that one Hoyoshill on FaceBook called the models bad )

[dapper skiff]

Gonna be a part u can improve

[surreal nest]

max score that has been humanly achieved so far

[dapper skiff]

There has been no Human that malded void wz that far yet

Try again later

[mighty tusk]

I'm not malding s5 luna void wz again

[heavy whale]

New and I've been here longer than you.

But hey I appreciate it

[shadow mica]

Me opening Legend WZ on Sunday night to 1 tap NIHIL WZ

[tired orbit]

why feral dosent have her full swap in attack?

[dapper skiff]

Wdym by that

[heavy whale]

I really appreciate the PPC rework

Way more skulls

[foggy ridge]

-fuck this game

[dapper skiff]

Skill issues

[meager iris]

I'm actually quite a bit conflicted on dmc colab, I want it to be meta but this would be bad since it will be expensive and for short time and not accessible after the patch, I want it to be non meta but this will be disappointing and not exciting just regular saving patch

[foggy ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/love-funny-andy-%26-leyley-andrew-tcooal-gif-4749067442388515438

[lusty tendon]

the nier meta was pretty wild

[foggy ridge]

im saving that actually

[lusty tendon]

good times

[tired orbit]

her 3orb swap in attack dosent complete and no timing press in it

[opaque ridge]

my time is up, take blue off me jeremy

[lusty tendon]

has it been a week

[dapper skiff]

Oh that

You don't have it for her swap in attack

[distant wren]

i like how near the end of void wz it's all about panicking trying to extend luna's rot because you don't want to swap to wata anymore

[opaque ridge]

yeah take it off

[dapper skiff]

U have to use orb for feral core passive

[dapper skiff]

Just hold ult bruh

[meager iris]

I don't know how busted it was cuz I joined the game late but I know that A2 require sss or useless

[dapper skiff]

Easy fix

[foggy ridge]

oh wtf is this

[dapper skiff]

[opaque ridge]

thats forbidden content

[lusty tendon]

the price to get the full nier team to s+ was the cost of 1 s+ char cause they had a pretty neat discount

[foggy ridge]

i forgot how to make hold ult strong lmao

[shadow holly]

by having sss

[meager iris]

oh this is nice I didn't know that

it make sense now

[foggy ridge]

no tnx

[shadow holly]

[meager iris]

sss3*

[foggy ridge]

i aint that big of a luna simp

[tired orbit]

pgr has very short button hold time

[shadow holly]

[lusty tendon]

nier took over wz meta though because we didn't have ele resist back then, just bonus dmg from ele units on the zone

and their consistent dps was super high compared to the teams released at the time

so they just were ran in almost every zone

[opaque ridge]

fire team saved pgr

[foggy ridge]

jesus christ how the hell am i suppose to 280k these stages without breaking the bank

[meager iris]

tbh not having them is kinda sad

but it's what it's

[foggy ridge]

🤨 how?

[distant wren]

does it really matter? just 1 tap and get 6 skulls bro

[opaque ridge]

not having vertias is a sin, uninstall now

[heavy whale]

Chat how do I hit the required score (wrong answers only)

[foggy ridge]

build ur aventurine

[dapper skiff]

Quit the game

[meager iris]

I hate bianca anyway

[rose yew]

stop ignoring your mobs in palworld

[heavy whale]

I need 90k goddamnit

[lusty tendon]

I'm guessing kuro won't make dmc meta though

[distant wren]

imagine they do

[meager iris]

me too, but it will literally be just a skip patch, not worth the hype tbh

[foggy ridge]

[shadow mica]

If they do i'll start playing again just to quit again

[foggy ridge]

vermidtas

[opaque ridge]

if u have stigmata on ur acc

[meager iris]

I guess they will do something about it to make them useful

[surreal nest]

itll just be like the brs patch, itll be a brick patch

[opaque ridge]

unbind it rn to prove ur point

[lusty tendon]

If DMC is brs level it's gonna be disappointing

[foggy ridge]

tf u mean unbind

[dapper skiff]

Foreshadowing a rank DMC Chara????

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/887159058648412180.png

[heavy whale]

Bugged shield, bricked character

[distant wren]

ngl i wish CA and veritas leaps came way earlier
they're pretty cool leaps, just didn't help them by the time it happened

[surreal nest]

imagine they did sync patches for an a rank

[tiny acorn]

my lost lullaby is currently at S, is teddy decrypter worth onfielding at all, or just solo lullaby the whole time?

[lusty tendon]

I mean let's be real; even if DMC was S rank, if they're not better than the current meta units they might as well be A rank

[heavy whale]

A rank V would be cool

[meager iris]

at least I wish they bring some memorable events with it or something that we can enjoy outside of meta options

[opaque ridge]

global killed whales so they could make A ranks come faster

[heavy whale]

Or A rank Lady or Trish

[dapper skiff]

A rank vergil too

[shadow mica]

Vergil should be B rank imo

[surreal nest]

the first a ranks with timestop

[cinder turtle]

solo bolo

[dapper skiff]

What timesstop

[meager iris]

true it's either meta or A rank, even A rank would be expensive since you have to pull for them to rank them up

[distant wren]

it's funny that a potential V in pgr might be unironically less braindead than how he is in dmcv

[meager iris]

with their b2b2b s ranks i doubt that anyone would even bother pulling for A rank

[shadow holly]

wdym dmc simps skip everyone for collab

uohh s+ vergil

uohh s+ dante

[remote pier]

[distant wren]

[cinder turtle]

you r underestimate human

[tired orbit]

are you about ppc? i got 289k with just laurel-teddy-21 team and with qu wo sig same score

[meager iris]

those are the same as cw simps, 1 month lifespan no one care about them

[quartz dove]

BURY THE LIGHT DEEP WITHIN

[dapper skiff]

Just farm them smh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1174906710285090876.gif

[heavy whale]

You underestimate base banner ticket rates

[opaque ridge]

berry

[foggy ridge]

also i forgot to mention, YES IT DOES MATTER. THERE ARE PEOPLE ON TOP OF ME. UNACCEPTABLE

[dapper skiff]

So u like top

I see

[surreal nest]

[distant wren]

so you want to be top instead?

[quartz dove]

Why u not blue

[foggy ridge]

yes

[heavy whale]

Sounds like something a bottom would say

[foggy ridge]

sounds like u wanna figure it out pretty boy?

[shadow holly]

hes talking about onslaught ppc boss which is more than 30 times tankier than advanced ppc bosses

sorry intensive battle

[woven haven]

what’s advanced ppc hp for hell

[meager iris]

do you think out of the 6000 people, at least 300 can get into INTENSIVE BATTLE?

[foggy ridge]

cue to that one show of an autistic surgeon screaming but instead of i am a surgeon, its i am a dalao

[heavy whale]

Now this is definitely bottom behavior. Why would he ever say this

[dapper skiff]

No

[meager iris]

[foggy ridge]

[shadow holly]

p sure like 500-700k but maybe @visual topaz is still online to answer that

[meager iris]

I need to get that 18s lightning asap

or else 🧱

[foggy ridge]

guess we shall never know

[cinder turtle]

what is onslaught ppc I thought it will be released in the future

[shadow holly]

well the future is now

[dapper skiff]

We're already in the future

[shadow holly]

congratulations

[dapper skiff]

[surreal nest]

were time travelling

[foggy ridge]

basically ppc for mega whels. dont bother malding, its horrible

[cinder turtle]

I mean where

[quartz dove]

[meager iris]

it's called INTENSIVE BATTLE now

[quartz dove]

Say u

[shadow holly]

ultimate ppc, bottom right
reach 1.8m score and it opens

[cinder turtle]

LOL

[tired orbit]

oh it isnt unlocked for me even but if i get second dps in tems that will do

[cinder turtle]

okay got it

[foggy ridge]

its horrible but i still do it anyway

[woven haven]

that’s not how it works

[meager iris]

I just remembered that lilith is coming next week, again...

bring hamlet I miss him

it's been a while

[heavy whale]

I just remembered that it's 6am, I should probably go now

[severe cargo]

Question does the intense battle only unlock for the boss you reach 1.8m score for or is it just prechosen ?

[heavy whale]

Imma head out now

[meager iris]

you have to get total 1.8m score in order to open it

[shadow holly]

how do you miss that buggy mess of a boss

[heavy whale]

[shadow holly]

oh though i guess with s+ cw now its onetap lmao

[heavy whale]

Bye guys

[meager iris]

he is just ez

[meager iris]

why bother with cw

[turbid bridge]

Intensive battle boss is pre-chosen every week

[shadow holly]

for 7s hell

[woven haven]

1.8 million total from all 3
the boss in intensive battle is different system entirely
its 1 boss 3 weakness stages

[tired orbit]

i mentioned it right am not talking about classes

[foggy ridge]

wuh

[quartz dove]

Fish cannot do it ?

[meager iris]

bro I'm poor sss guy I can only get 8s

[shadow holly]

s+ fish but he doesnt have s+ fish lol

[severe cargo]

So the boss is pre determined

[quartz dove]

[shadow holly]

s+ cw buddybro

[meager iris]

he is ez 8 with fish

but 7s with luna should be ez too

[foggy ridge]

poor and sss go together like water and oil

[woven haven]

no
it doesn’t matter
your advanced ppc is 2 tiers below the stage of intensive

Intensive battle with full PREMIUM TEAMS SS + SIG takes 2+ mins to clear

It takes maybe even ss3/sss units to clear under 1 minute

[river nymph]

[woven haven]

There is a very very stark difference

not even getting another dps will solve it

[meager iris]

1 general rule you should understand about me, no phys malding in wz, no lightning malding in ppc

this is how I'm still happy

[shadow holly]

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

wow disappointing
where is max score bro

not my dalao

[foggy ridge]

wheres the fun in not malding phys :(

[meager iris]

fck I should get 7s now

ok bring hamelet

[shadow holly]

its wantap dw

[tired orbit]

so its only for whales

[shadow holly]

no malding needed

[meager iris]

I just got her yesterday s+ I didn't even see what possibilities this could open for me

she was useless at sss

[woven haven]

its possible for f2p to get in
in fact its highly recommended you clear the bar to get in every week if possible
its impossible for f2p to compete for high scores there
but its fine because rewards there are minimal
bottom 100% gets 6 skulls
top 1% gets 12 skulls

[meager iris]

wait I take my word it's so ez

7s it's

[quartz dove]

F2p life in pgr =

[foggy ridge]

as a pinoy, i approve

[nova forum]

F2p friendly game btw

[woven haven]

how would u know

[quartz dove]

[woven haven]

fk ing sss3 whale

[shadow holly]

he cosplayed f2p so much he acquired the mindset

[remote pier]

[foggy ridge]

he is the f2p

[remote pier]

cosplayed the f2p skills

[dreamy pelican]

[dreamy pelican]

friendly fire type shii

[quartz dove]

My only sss3 is balter and kale

[tired orbit]

tbh game dosent force you to tryhard wz ppc you can just pull skins and chill with S chars or even wo theM cuz in rouge you can play any char with sig and SS and your skin

[meager iris]

sure but it's why I still play pgr

[river nymph]

i play for skins

[quartz dove]

Nameless lao

[meager iris]

I don't play the game to chill and pay for skins

[river nymph]

and cooking lulu

[meager iris]

peak event

[river nymph]

[meager iris]

I learned all business basics there

I can run a restaurant now

[river nymph]

[quartz dove]

He maybe stranded in vorkuta of pgr server aka eu but his dalao mentality keep him sane just like mason in black ops 1

[river nymph]

i put it in my resume

[quartz dove]

[meager iris]

"I can mald cooking lulu"

[river nymph]

i should put immunopolis on there too

i piloted two other people thru it

[foggy ridge]

i play to torture myself because i hate myself

[meager iris]

I'm fine with eu I just want more whels to come there so I can feel I'm skill issue and learn properly

[meager iris]

which one is this?

the survival event?

[woven haven]

i mean if you’re fine with skipping and know and accept what you’re missing out on, sure
but the main point is people sometimes don’t understand this and complain about powercreep or p2w

[river nymph]

yes

the one where it would randomly kill all your villagers

[meager iris]

this was w event

you need to think for the first time

[foggy ridge]

i never did that event

[distant wren]

does this thing help in any way or should i just choose normal difficulty to be quick?

[meager iris]

yeah I remember it

[foggy ridge]

thinking on my gacha game? perposterous

[meager iris]

if you don't want to think ez

just pull a yt video and follow it

[river nymph]

is this a new dfm thing?

[distant wren]

yeah

[river nymph]

idk

[foggy ridge]

bullsht that luna empress video had me deciphering the rotations like an archeologist

[meager iris]

[foggy ridge]

well it wasnt that bad but the way it was presented was confusing as hell at first

[swift socket]

For achievement , just do easy one, for leveling do the highest diff

[tired orbit]

actually skipping that way you missing less than in other gachas at lest ones i know

[dapper skiff]

Nice mindset

[civic citrus]

Just came here to let everyone know I accidentally reso 6 signature move instead of class skill on Alisa

[distant wren]

so just faster leveling? does it make it a lot faster overall to max or just a pain and better to do normal instead?

[dapper skiff]

The legend

Is real???

[civic citrus]

Yup

[dapper skiff]

6x ult Alisa is real

[flint pulsar]

Guys any of these will be free?

[civic citrus]

Lmao only on the last one I went “wait wtf”

[meager iris]

[dapper skiff]

The one that awkwardly smile to the camera

[civic citrus]

3

[flint pulsar]

Thanks!

[tired orbit]

guys

[opaque ridge]

[civic citrus]

Id show a picture but I’m offline. Should I leave it or change it

[tired orbit]

luna said i look like idiot while sleeping

[dapper skiff]

Perhaps

[civic citrus]

Perhaps

Idk does it need to be class skill

At least I didn’t use the red memory cards

[dapper skiff]

U DIDN'T USED USB AND GOT 6 ULT???

[civic citrus]

I have used usb about for about 3 characters total

[dapper skiff]

Strong Zaza on this one

[civic citrus]

Wym where y’all getting so many red memory cards from

I just rng it

[sand laurel]

accurate

[dapper skiff]

Many?

[dapper skiff]

Where

[civic citrus]

Idk I don’t get 12 per update

[woven haven]

that’s not really how it works given how pgr works tbh
SS and sig are like half of what the devs consider to be the “base kit”

Its like an intentional design crutch atm

[opaque ridge]

pgr is full of whales

they buy red usbs with rc

[woven haven]

it gets truer and truer for every newer unit to get more and more base features shifted up the ranks

[sand laurel]

[opaque ridge]

they get 24 red usb every month

[civic citrus]

Sad

[opaque ridge]

this game is fully p2w

[civic citrus]

I was gonna buy sone skins etc but when I realised that I went mostly f2p

[swift socket]

I forget about does talent point multiply or not. But leveling is rly fast

[sand laurel]

s+ minimum

[sand laurel]

but does winning actually matters? pgr esports when?

[civic citrus]

I guess it matters when SS feels bad to play

[distant wren]

🤔 hmm, yeah i'll try to see
if it's a pain then i'll switch to normal

[woven haven]

nah
you can live without some ss3s and pretty much every sss but the s5-ss0 is so highly tied to base kit it doesn’t make sense without them

[meager iris]

p2f

[opaque ridge]

stop pinging me, im trying to watch isekai trash

[woven haven]

depends on the ss3 tbh
some don’t care
some need it
some really like it

[swift socket]

It's not pain, Qu 1 ult wipe out all xD just depend your Artifact and memo set

[civic citrus]

Ping

[sand laurel]

I mean pgr 2030 gonna be s+ min invest

[dapper skiff]

Okay mb

[civic citrus]

Like Daren needs it? Who else

[dapper skiff]

I won't do it again

[civic citrus]

Yeah sorry

[rose yew]

[civic citrus]

We will stop

[opaque ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-anime-punch-miyako-gif-5654220255026481231

[meager iris]

damn

[serene siren]

what ? i didn't saw my bad

[meager iris]

you should've just stay silent

[dapper skiff]

Is lantern

Better than gloria

For tank?

I can't really tell which better than which if u have to choose one

[rose yew]

yes

[dapper skiff]

No

U r cursed miku

[rose yew]

if you don't mind the 15s cooldown

[sand laurel]

so cursed that not even a single mod wants to touch them

[remote pier]

[sand laurel]

they are a well known carrier of brick disease

[woven haven]

hanying lucia ishmael

[slender aurora]

When does blue banner reset again?

Was that during ishmael?

[woven haven]

back when she was released feral ss3 was also pretty major

And so was uhhhh balter ss3

lee ss3 mattered for the short period where ss3 was needed to run shakes but that died after lucia

[remote pier]

[woven haven]

nanami ss3 cuts her burn rotation time in half

selena enhanced ult might require ss3 for practical usage in phys wz

[remote pier]

[woven haven]

selena enhanced ult requires full core bar to cast
ss3 doubles the bar filled by concerto orbs under a specific condition

[barren plank]

Hyperreal got done so dirty lmfao

[livid lark]

waifu game after all

[barren plank]

Male bias isn't a thing

This is because Wata exists

[livid lark]

needs more males in meta

somehow arknights manages to do a good balance of waifu and husbando in meta

[meager iris]

daren has affix and he doesn't

[wispy robin]

they literally had to make lucia unplayable solo to force ppl to pull for wata

[civic citrus]

Oh man

I’m cry

[livid lark]

it's easier now than before tbh

[civic citrus]

What’s easier

[livid lark]

because a lot of the spenders have quit it's not as required to fully follow meta i suppose

but yea if you dont have meta you'll struggle with certain content

[civic citrus]

I never fully followed meta in the first place

[livid lark]

namely norman and clash reflection

[civic citrus]

Do I need to do clash reflection

[livid lark]

if you dont have signature weapons then I guess not? but there are rewards there to power up your units such as event tickets

[civic citrus]

Ok

[raw swift]

Yes

[livid lark]

doing CR gives you mats for 2 extra memory slots assuming you have a signature weapon

[civic citrus]

This stressing me out

[livid lark]

this is just PGR dude

[civic citrus]

I’m gone peace and thanks

[livid lark]

no exaggerations here

[raw swift]

It gives you hypertune materials and pulls

[civic citrus]

Ofc I appreciate ur honesty lmao

[floral fable]

@raw swift do you happen to know kaleido best memory set for wz/ppc as a support

Or where to find that

[livid lark]

bot is right there

[vale raft]

Ayla: Kaleido <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:amplifier:1290613387197415467><:ice_element:1290613933106925638>

Main Support Set

Usage

QTE Support Healer/Buffer

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Main post-Shukra QTE Support Set
Recommended for all ranks
Harmony Set (Requires Harmony on Signature 6 Weapon)*

Memories

4x Da Vinci
2x Samantha/Gloria/Lantern Festival: Reunion
2x Guinevere (Harmony)

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Class Passive

[floral fable]

This is not helping😭

[raw swift]

Kaleido doesn't really have field time on void anyway

[livid lark]

wdym

read the descriptions

[floral fable]

It's still confusing those options

[livid lark]

go through each one

[rose yew]

kaleido used in void?

or just any amp that has highest rank in roster

[raw swift]

Kaleido is generally the best

[livid lark]

if you still dont know which one to go for just go with the main build

regardless if it's dps or support

[floral fable]

It's just that main qte support gives me like 3 different 2pc memories

[analog cargo]

naming builds is pretty useless,u actualy need context of what they are used for

[floral fable]

Well I said just for wz and ppc as a amp

Still learning

[livid lark]

well are you doing solo or rotating?

if you're doing solo dps then your support becomes a qte bot

[floral fable]

Probably gonna be swapping between Luna and wata idk how much I'd be using Kaleido atm

[livid lark]

if kaleido doesnt get field time she's automatically a qte bot

[hazy sandal]

[livid lark]

if she has onfield time then you would go with the dps or support (non-qte bot) builds

[analog cargo]

omg is that setsu the creator of setsu guide for sets harmo

[hazy sandal]

Isn’t that is equal to what it is

[floral fable]

I didn't have any spare amps. Only Echo, so I got Kaleido as another amp. I can look on my for rotations and stuff but Luna and Wata seem to be on field the most

Since I'm not doing any Ice teams Kaleido doesn't need to be on field

I think

[livid lark]

well just fyi, alisa wont be able to help with void because she's physical (luna's class passive won't apply to her)

[floral fable]

Ik

I got Kaleido for that

[analog cargo]

@hazy sandal hows kr doing with accelaration

[serene siren]

all the gameplay help heroes is showing this month

[analog cargo]

i mean ye,funeral,every old person gets togheter for one last time

have to pay ur respects

[serene siren]

"bye pgr you was not a good game "

[analog cargo]

pgr was good until launch happend

[carmine reef]

would u guys come to my funeral

[raw swift]

Yes

[serene siren]

i would come for you

[analog cargo]

i think am older than u

[floral fable]

Uh huh

[carmine reef]

but would u come yuri

[livid lark]

that's not exactly correct
it wholely depends on your team comps that determines onfield time
also you will need to at least touch ice content for your weeklies

[floral fable]

He wouldn't come he would bust

[carmine reef]

[shadow holly]

[analog cargo]

they banned all the fun words

[floral fable]

Missed Shukra gonna have to get her another time :(

[livid lark]

and hence why kaleido gets pretty much full uptime if the other 2 are qte bots

[hazy sandal]

we are losing but
Even if you sweep an already clean floor, there's no sign that you've even swept up the dust

[analog cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[raw swift]

Ok 4pc shakespeare

[slender aurora]

Shukras bandaid is gonna be coming next patch, dont worry

Its not completely jover for your ice team

[floral fable]

Wat say that one more time?

[proper loom]

who do i team luna with?

[viscid cave]

epithap

[wicked imp]

Yes I would

[livid lark]

you mentioned that you think kaleido doesn't need to be onfielded

in your case that is not true since you don't have any better ice units and so kaleido gets full uptime in your case

[raw swift]

Epitaph and Kaleido

[analog cargo]

am doing it for u rn

[carmine reef]

[raw swift]

I think they talking abot void

[analog cargo]

ill post it in twitterr,tribute

[wicked imp]

Zex is totally getting topped by Yuri

[carmine reef]

we're so back

[analog cargo]

getting toped by a femboy is wild

[raw swift]

But this too

[wicked imp]

[subtle zinc]

I assume amps maybe go on field if wata is below 3s? otherwise never

[carmine reef]

it's mild at best

in my experience my amp is basically not onfielding at all anyway, but also i am using feral

she has less things she can do in like 2 seconds than someone else

[subtle zinc]

yeah need her pounce slashy takes too long

[carmine reef]

but even when i tried it out and used feral ult

[analog cargo]

depends wich one ur using

[carmine reef]

it did literally like 15% of one bar lmao

[analog cargo]

but no,it shoudnt rly happen

[carmine reef]

so i think it's not worth regardless

[analog cargo]

empy rotation takes like 2secs now so kinda wtv

[carmine reef]

would rather just basic attacking for more orbs on the others tbh LOL

[floral fable]

Oh yah

[livid lark]

for void it's different because luna will be doing all the heavy lifting

in that case kaleido becomes a qte bot because her being onfield doesnt contribute much

[analog cargo]

this game sucks

[floral fable]

My void team is gonna be low investment for now except for Luna cuz I'm basically making it from scratch.

S Ayla, S Wata etc. Only have their signatures rn

No SS anybody except Luna

[carmine reef]

not like SS ayla would've helped basically the same as any rank below SSS for void's purposes

wata gon be hurtin tho

but on shakes he's hurting even at ss r0

[floral fable]

Shakes

[raw swift]

peare

[subtle zinc]

Yeah I mean play amp you are most comfy with tbh

[floral fable]

I only have 2😭

[remote pier]

rip

[raw swift]

Will Empy be better for void after leap? They're both ss with no sig

[floral fable]

Just tryna juice up Luna as much as I can

[carmine reef]

you know empy leap is already out right

[analog cargo]

reason why kaleido is better,is cuz she has a faster qte

does not matter wich rank it is

[raw swift]

I'll get it later

[carmine reef]

well for empy it does matter

[floral fable]

SS Wata is in the plans fs.

[subtle zinc]

its only because her qte dmg hits faster

[carmine reef]

cause her qte hits faster but also cause it has decent range for eins application

[tired orbit]

why qte speed matters?

[carmine reef]

cause you want the debuff that their qte inflicts

if the debuff comes out really late you're losing damage

[visual fable]

how many bc is each story chapter?

[subtle zinc]

after I am happy with my score i want to test shake DV Liv and runcottie on wata dropping eins and guin for MORE DMG

[raw swift]

Around 300

[carmine reef]

? you have dlt surely

there's no way dropping both eins and guin for cottie wata in void is more damage

[analog cargo]

u want every wave to have eins debuff and tank debuff

[carmine reef]

absolutely no way

[subtle zinc]

I´m not saying its a good idea but it would be fun and there are quite alot of non shielded mobs for him to chew thru

[analog cargo]

wheres the wz guide for dummys

[carmine reef]

he's going to do the same damage really

[thorn creek]

Fury productions will help

[woven haven]

he died

[analog cargo]

jeremey last video actualy kinda is

[analog cargo]

peak?

[thorn creek]

Solon? it was about time

[subtle zinc]

Look im not saying its a good idea I just think that Luna and Wata w cottie play so fast intersting things may happen

[carmine reef]

no like actually think about it

your wata won't actually be able to do more rots

and even if he did, that wouldn't be the issue

[analog cargo]

the void team of schrondinger

[floral fable]

Would I even need to SS Ayla at all if she's just gonna be on my void team until Wanshi

[carmine reef]

the issue is having to place wata's swaps so he doesn't run into shield waves

no need to ss ayla p sure

[vale raft]

Ayla: Kaleido

Skill - SS

Endless Creativity

Level 1 - Unlocked at S5

Casting Signature - Color Rendering will activate all available QTEs.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SS

Increases Extra DMG Bonus by 20% when the Signature - Painter's Realm is expanded. Gains 30 Signature Energy and 1 "Backup Paint" every time upon entering the battlefied.

[carmine reef]

yeah no need

[distant wren]

maybe him living instead of spider would've been better

[subtle zinc]

again, its just a fun experiment, not trying to theory craft it out lol

[tame ivy]

between ss3 cw and ss3 feral, which should i get

[floral fable]

Do amps get the most use on field for a split second or just as QTE if it's low investment on a void team

[carmine reef]

feral

[stiff elm]

hmm fish.

[carmine reef]

but tbh both are kind of meh investments rn

[stiff elm]

hmmmmm.

[floral fable]

FATE BANNER

[stiff elm]

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[carmine reef]

but if you got feral to sss eventually that'd be real good

[floral fable]

SCAMMER!!!!!!

[stiff elm]

mmmmm? fish ss3?

[floral fable]

Does Alya find any use on field that even helps Luna

[analog cargo]

warzoneyapping

[stiff elm]

why is it a sticker

so hard to read

[subtle zinc]

whatever you are doing just press it faster and make sure you do more ults per character per time in wz

[river nymph]

[floral fable]

🍞 👍

[carmine reef]

lowkey sometimes going faster isn't even the play in void wz

[stiff elm]

wave 8 by 1:30 was so... last year

[carmine reef]

cause if you go too fast you'll do the ult mode hold attack before your qtes are up

[floral fable]

CN gen 7 teams doing wave 40 in by 1:30

[river nymph]

[carmine reef]

and sometimes it's more important to have qtes up for that to clear a wave so that you can do full ult2 on the next one

[woven haven]

it would have

[stiff elm]

is ss3 fish worth?

[carmine reef]

only if you have swap dark

[stiff elm]

gamba addicshun

[woven haven]

neither you get a free copy of each on the same patch

[carmine reef]

but you're already bricked regardless

[stiff elm]

fck

[shadow holly]

for you not even close

[carmine reef]

fate puller

[floral fable]

Fr

[woven haven]

lmao no

[carmine reef]

i don't know why you bother asking what is optimal

[woven haven]

not in a million years for you

[tame ivy]

ok but i could get to SSS

[carmine reef]

when we all know you can't resist bricking yourself every week

[woven haven]

just voucher

[remote pier]

Mint is just looking for every excuse to brick

[lament coral]

How to use old man epitaph

[subtle zinc]

yeah of course but I think we´re talking about general advice for WZ improvement. Awareness of mob status and stagering cds is for advanced gamers

[remote pier]

and flexing his brick here

[tame ivy]

i need my power

[carmine reef]

no voucher for feral and sss feral would be p good

[woven haven]

cw is voucherable
feral isn’t but who cares

[stiff elm]

I have ss3 scire but no dlt

[woven haven]

just sss cw via vouchers or whatever

[remote pier]

[woven haven]

not worth spending on her when nanami exists

its like comparing a baby with a star bomber

[remote pier]

SSS CW in time for DMC collab

[slender aurora]

coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb

[tame ivy]

how many vouchers does it take to get enough for SSS from SS?

[carmine reef]

like 72k?

[slender aurora]

whatever 804x90 is

[stiff elm]

oh sh

[tame ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/dante-devil-may-cry-dmc-resident-evil-resident-evil-4-gif-12039512849009267559

[slender aurora]

looks like 72360

[subtle zinc]

I was so upset at my CW intense tb attempt i alt f4´d

[stiff elm]

I can do 1 pull guys!!

[river nymph]

[stiff elm]

this time for SURE ill hit that 5%

[slender aurora]

W mental math

[carmine reef]

i'm just a gamer what can i say

[stiff elm]

surely 💔

[tame ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/gaming-nero-slam-dmc4-angry-gif-16613333

[meager iris]

I can't even get close to killing him at 18

my cw is bricked

[stiff elm]

no luck

[tame ivy]

please tell me i can get enough by the time nanami releases

[remote pier]

and you have to wait several months bc you are limited on the discounted shards amount per month

[mighty tusk]

And by the time you've sss cw, someone else might have replaced her already

[subtle zinc]

my cw is almost perfect and she is still a failure

[remote pier]

surely they wouldn't do that to V daughter

[mighty tusk]

Onslaught ppc?

[remote pier]

[meager iris]

yeah

[mighty tusk]

[tame ivy]

yeah i wont really care if that happens, ill use cw anyways unless the replacement is equally or more fun to play

[meager iris]

I'm going crazy istg

[mighty tusk]

Why use lightning?

[meager iris]

how tf did people get 18

[subtle zinc]

just for fun

[meager iris]

cuz I don't have s+ qu

[subtle zinc]

stylish

wanted those sweet parries

[stiff elm]

uh

[mighty tusk]

Fair
I did lightning just for the memes in onslaught too

[stiff elm]

guys...

[subtle zinc]

then its like wow 32 seconds no thx

[meager iris]

[stiff elm]

building pity gone wrong..

[tame ivy]

[woven haven]

the patch she is voucherable is the same patch nanami releases

[stiff elm]

that orange... why

[meager iris]

you are doing it for fun I'm doing it to actually get lowest time

[woven haven]

and you have the discount delay

[tame ivy]

yeah, but i meant enough vouchers

[meager iris]

and my cw can't kill at all

something is wrong ain't no way I couldn't kill once with all the malding

[woven haven]

sure take
40 x 804
50 x 1200

92k vouchers
good luck
maybe -30 shards from free copy

[subtle zinc]

well I just tried light once , will do it with void and qu ofc but WZ is more fun atm

[woven haven]

also you need sss wanshi and lilith before then

[remote pier]

[stiff elm]

I mean...

[tame ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/dante-dmc-devil-may-cry-dmc-dante-dante-dmc-gif-1963145286204421464

[meager iris]

you have s+ qu you don't even need to bother with lightning

[woven haven]

so is this a good time to tell you her ss3 is like one of the worst

[meager iris]

void is ez to get lowest time, ice I heard it's hard

[stiff elm]

bro I tried building pity to rid my gambling addiction

3/60 what gives 💀

[lament coral]

How to play old man epitaph..

[woven haven]

like its second worst ss3

[sage forge]

who dafuq is this wanshii everybody talk about

[stiff elm]

who's the first worst anyways

[woven haven]

s rank ice tank wanshi

[tame ivy]

🔴 🔴 🔴 🔴 🔴 🔴 🔴 🔴 🔴 🔴 🔴

[stiff elm]

I can always just get her sss if I ever feel like whel

[woven haven]

alisa
that’s how bad luna ss3 is

[sage forge]

oh

[tame ivy]

youre welcome

[woven haven]

also kinda sh*t

[stiff elm]

?

[woven haven]

like let me be honest luna doesn’t scale well with dupes until sss3

[stiff elm]

doesn't her max stack go from 300 -> 600?

[tame ivy]

just learn to parry

[subtle zinc]

yeah qu is not free 15 seconds or anything even at max invest the timing is super tight

[tame ivy]

and how long will that take to grind?

[meager iris]

true but still lacking damage is worse than anything

[woven haven]

yeah that’s all
120/150% dmg bonus for core/ult -> 240/300% dmg bonus
+20% ult dmg bonus from ss3 which is diluted by this further
and that’s all
no qol
no gamebreaking passive
no gen3 passive
no new rotation changes

the shieldbreak increase from 2x -> 2.5x is good for void content but its a realistically 25% dmg increase to shields

[remote pier]

[woven haven]

every ss3 and sss after is far more game warping than luna’s deals some bit more dmg

[next dock]

who thought that making clash reflection's voodoo one shot you with his basic attack would be a good idea

[stiff elm]

hm well ig ill take a dupe in like 3 pulls tho

2 luna in 63 pulls could have been worse

...like really worse

[subtle zinc]

yeah tb is not very forgiving if you do not kil him before he gets angry

[next dock]

what are you talking about

i got one luna in 79 pulls

[stiff elm]

I didn't pull fate

never again

[next dock]

actually 99

i did 79 fate, 20 regular

[woven haven]

i mean

The problem here

[meager iris]

I don't even know what to do I'm just resetting hoping something kill him

[woven haven]

is that the luna 2nd copy does…. nothing

[stiff elm]

if only I didn't buy her shards from skulls for a week

[woven haven]

luna ss3 is 8-9% more ult dmg than ss0

[subtle zinc]

okay I seriously think my keyboard space bar just is old or something i swear i dont hold it and it uses all my orbs its so annoying

[woven haven]

that’s like

the only thing

[meager iris]

you have orbs on space bar

[stiff elm]

a dupe is a dupe

[subtle zinc]

Nnono I mean such you hold ULT1 instead of press ULT1 you consume orbs

[stiff elm]

no matter how useless

unless its glory, his SS being more worthless than S is kinda bs

[meager iris]

oh that

[subtle zinc]

basically a WZ restart its just annoying lol

[meager iris]

well I think I need to change my ult binding too

scroll wheel sometimes sucks

[next dock]

it saves PPC skulls tho

[subtle zinc]

yea I think Luna is SS or SSS dont think its worth in between which is sad bc ss3 is pretty nice for so many chars

[woven haven]

i mean he alr bought them

[stiff elm]

has there ever been anything that has gotten changed after it has been released other than memories?

[woven haven]

i mean
sure if that’s how you view it
but if you had 3 pitied hanying

[stiff elm]

probably wouldn't have

it would be cool if we can recycle shards even without overflow

[woven haven]

yeah but if that 3 pity was in hanying and you got her ss3 it would have been extremely night and day

[stiff elm]

I dont think the luck would just save like that

so even if it was hanying patch I doubt it would appear within those 3 pulls

[woven haven]

just saying
out of every dupe you could have gotten

especially one so early

[stiff elm]

better early than like at 22

[woven haven]

it would have been better if it was literally anyone else

[stiff elm]

glory

[woven haven]

rather than luna

[woven haven]

you were rolling on themed not arrival

Not talking past units

[stiff elm]

damn, somehow im retaining #1 so far for void

[woven haven]

i’m just saying it is literally the least worth one out of every possible one in the past and future 2 years

[stiff elm]

where the snipers @

[tacit sentinel]

Hi, if i'm going to play alisa off-ele what's the build?

4 DV 2 what?

[stiff elm]

why 💀

[woven haven]

4dv2guin

alisa cannot hold eins outside of glaciation team (not ice team)

[tacit sentinel]

kay thx

[woven haven]

common strat

[stiff elm]

for?

[woven haven]

When it comes to wata ppc

sss alisa ss empy cuz alisa atk amp passive overrides empy’s

or using her as reso slave

cuz the other unit doesn’t have the healer resos

[stiff elm]

I feel like it would be easier to have pulse + sig over SSS alisa

[woven haven]

i mean it is a sig

[stiff elm]

for dat 5% extra shred... that has rng based procs

[woven haven]

less reliable

[stiff elm]

oh yeah im doing rlly sht on phys wz, is this cuz I lack rigor sig

[woven haven]

5% extra fire shred vs like
12% atk from amp and up to 18% atk in resos

sss alisa is voucher which is achievable

pulse sig isn’t realistic unless you knew beforehand

[stiff elm]

how many points would you say rigor sig would up me in wz

rn im rocking a
2.322 050 101

[woven haven]

not much
esp when hanying is in what
4-5 weeks

[stiff elm]

damn, rigor sig is gating me from hero wz

[woven haven]

hanying sig is also

just an upgraded version of rigor sig

so if you want a def shred wep

[stiff elm]

2 snipers

you guys think im staying in top 3?

[quartz dove]

Backpulling is already not great its even more terrible now

[sleek basin]

?

[stiff elm]

..

[carmine reef]

this dude worried about defending leader

[stiff elm]

no I want to promote

no reason I just wanna

[carmine reef]

yes

you're worried that you'll be stuck in defending leader

for how long you've had your account this wouldn't ever be the case if you didn't keep bricking yourself constantly because of your piss poor impulse control

[thorn creek]

Just learn more from Zex

[carmine reef]

[thorn creek]

I’m pretty sure he’s retaining hero with less build than urs

[summer topaz]

hero has lots of skill issue people but they stay there or promote from leader because most of them arent bricked

[stiff elm]

2.322 050 101

[carmine reef]

what team is that

[stiff elm]

phys

[carmine reef]

my phys is 222 500 001

[thorn creek]

See

[lofty dagger]

If I remove buffs from the boss in Norman, will the boss himself weaken in attack and defense? Or will it exclusively not have the buffs that I took off?

[stiff elm]

bro has rigor sig, thats big diff fr

[thorn creek]

Mint u still have a lot to learn

[remote pier]

that bianca sig never coming home smh

[stiff elm]

or maybe my rots are sht

[carmine reef]

p sure balter sig and harmo is waaaay bigger lol

[thorn creek]

[remote pier]

it is

[raw swift]

For Target Uniframe gacha what should i pick ?

[carmine reef]

the fact that you have patton and i don't is already a bigger difference

and you are ss3 so you also have cottie

[summer topaz]

none dont touch that banner

[sleek basin]

2.3 balter runs 2.5 rots

[carmine reef]

you have extra 15% shred from patton and you are getting to rotate twice as much as i am

[sleek basin]

It should cover as well ig

[lofty dagger]

If I remove buffs from the boss in Norman, will the boss himself weaken in attack and defense? Or will it exclusively not have the buffs that I took off?

[carmine reef]

significantly outweighs 20% def shred

[raw swift]

why?

[thorn creek]

Useless banner. Ignore. They’ll never be used in the future

[sleek basin]

Latter

[dreamy pelican]

5??

[raw swift]

i see

[remote pier]

don't question it

[carmine reef]

i've spent 80k bc on her bro. i've tried

[summer topaz]

uniframe are dead units in the game there isnt any content that utilize them except for guild battles

[tired orbit]

i have now 40k vounchers for who better to spend them sss ayla/ss3 empy picked from selector or for sss wanshi in the future?

[thorn creek]

I gifted u already. Ur good👍

[carmine reef]

hecate didn't want to come home, it is what it is

[carmine reef]

save for wanshi and lilith

[stiff elm]

hmmm okay wait can one of you guys try watching me do a phys wz run

I may just be tweaking

[thorn creek]

My guess is ur not saving qtes and ults for next waves

[stiff elm]

you busy rn or can u see for yourself

[thorn creek]

Am going to sleep for work early tmr

[dreamy pelican]

where the clip at

[stiff elm]

I dont htink I can post a 2 minute long run

[dreamy pelican]

u work?

[stiff elm]

fine lemme go get a recording

[thorn creek]

I don’t associate with u

[dreamy pelican]

post it on yt or something and send it here

[thorn creek]

Never reply to me again

[lusty raft]

Do you guys think its a good idea to start the game from scratch? I haven't played this game properly since 2 years ago and im losing my grip on the game down to my muscle memory. I have plume, cw, ln laurel, balter, lamia, a2 and 9s. Am i going to lose out much?

[carmine reef]

[dreamy pelican]

[remote pier]

[carmine reef]

not worth restarting

cw, balter, lamia

the others don't matter but having these 3 is more than what you'd have restarting

[remote pier]

restarting w/ accelerated patch?

[dreamy pelican]

restarting during sync would make me genuinely kms

[remote pier]

join the kiwi gang

[dreamy pelican]

never would wish it on my worse enemy

[remote pier]

wtf Kevin

you are lucky I was looking away and didn't read what you send

[thorn creek]

Smh always blaming me

U was right tho

[gray cosmos]

I love pgr and after almost 2 years if there's one thing I know with 100% certainty its that if i had to start my account from scratch i simply would not

[sleek basin]

[carmine reef]

i do sometimes think about making a second acc where i can do all the silly bricked moves i won't do on my main

[tired orbit]

so who should i pick from selector?

[carmine reef]

watanabe epitaph

oh wait

[thorn creek]

which one?

[carmine reef]

do you mean base banner select or the selector item

[dreamy pelican]

i personally cant, managing 2 pgr accounts is way too much for me

[tired orbit]

that where ayla last unit

[carmine reef]

pgr is like 30 minutes of active effort

a week

[thorn creek]

i'd pick scire tbh

[stiff elm]

hold on I may be tweaking

[thorn creek]

karenina scire

[carmine reef]

scire is the likeliest pick

[sleek basin]

Not with dfm
And roguelike in general

[carmine reef]

dfm isn't really part of "managing the account"

[thorn creek]

smh just let someone pilot

[dreamy pelican]

dalao taking only 30 minutes a week

[topaz knot]

How much of the story mode am I required to do

[carmine reef]

i take more but that's because i like to

my account would be totally fine if i just onetapped everything

but i take more time to optimize because i enjoy doing so

[dreamy pelican]

i take like an hour or two just to do ppc because i reset a lot

[carmine reef]

esp with new ppc, exppc is literally onetap for me now

[pine slate]

I just spend a couple minutes on ppc these days

[dreamy pelican]

also bc im skullbroke and i really need to mald ppc

warzone is a breeze for me but not ppc

guess thats just a skill issue thing

[carmine reef]

you shouldn't need to mald for max skulls from exppc

[visual fable]

who dose luna repleace on elemental teams

[carmine reef]

it's just 1.8m now, your account should be very comfortable

[carmine reef]

nobody

luna is a dps in void team, her own element

[dreamy pelican]

yea im really glad for the new ppc changes, i can get max skulls without busting my ass every week now

[rough mica]

who dont have dark and ice team next week:

[dapper skiff]

Ur not busting every week?

What a self control

[thorn creek]

just use S+ teddy and bridget

[gray cosmos]

my lee was ss hypershit and I have fully replaced him with sss luna

[topaz knot]

You have sss Luna

How much you whale

[rough mica]

getting 600k each on lilith and emperor without multiple s rank

gluck

[quartz dove]

U just need and

[gray cosmos]

contemplating sss3

[visual hollow]

Yo uh

[thorn creek]

paking whels

the money should go towards lamia gacha skin frfr

[visual hollow]

How do you do the derived from matrix quest in sprinsong boons?

[gray cosmos]

i kinda prefer base lamia to her gacha

i like the techno mermaid vibe

also pgr has enough white haired characters as is

[topaz knot]

also pgr has enough white haired characters as is

Fixed it for you

[gray cosmos]

natlan moment

[zenith thorn]

pins

[thorn creek]

get this and it'll cause entropy change, which is like an upgrade to a set that you currently have

[gray cosmos]

ngl i forgot about the set corruption upgrade and kept ignoring that node chasing other achievements

after the first couple runs

[zenith thorn]

@woven haven whose ss3 is the biggest
can only get ss3 in ishmael patch
hanying,pyro or ishmael
im guessing ishmael

[gray cosmos]

ss3 hany is absolutely gigantic isnt it

[zenith thorn]

that's for ts
but by the time ishamel comes,ts is basically desd

i mean sure you could argue the fact that a new ts dps may need ot

[stiff elm]

@carmine reef a bit weird near the end but aside from that

[visual fable]

did huh empy leap make her turbo? she feels so fast now

[stiff elm]

wave 14, beat I can do ig

[carmine reef]

at wave 4 it makes no sense why you wasted so much time basic attacking and clearing the wave, only to not ult and just swap

[stiff elm]

ah.

[zenith thorn]

yep

[stiff elm]

ah yeah I see it

[carmine reef]

on alisa you should not use rose qte if the wave will die soon

because for example at 1:00 now you have no rose shred for the next wave after balter ult

you leave rose qte so that on balter swap you have both qte for dv buff and still have rose qte again for next wave

only time you use rose qte on alisa is if the wave is going to survive even after balter ult

also if balter swap is up, just swap to balter, don't bother with the extra core attack on alisa

[stiff elm]

and more energy for rose cause I was short like twice

[carmine reef]

at 1:21 you do it again

you spend so much time basic attacking on balter and then kill the wave just to swap to rose

i don't understand

[stiff elm]

am I supposed to use rose to finish off enemies?

[carmine reef]

rather than finishing off, you're intentionally slowing your rotation for no gain

[stiff elm]

huh....

[carmine reef]

rose ult isn't a single hit, you're not losing any damage by swapping to her when they're low

not that rose does that much damage anyway

there's no reason to be wasting time on balter basic attacking just to do nothing

[stiff elm]

ok hold on let me go again this is literally how ive been playing phys team for the past 3 months.. kinda sad right?

[carmine reef]

also always do 3x3 and then 1p on alisa

if you do a 2 or a 1 somewhere you have to do an extra ping which is a time loss

as you can see at like 1:35

[paper bone]

so how do I rot void onslaught

[stiff elm]

oh I got that down easy somehow

oh wait for onslaught? like ppc

[zenith thorn]

do a void warzone rotation

[stiff elm]

shi ez

[carmine reef]

actually wait i just remembered

[thorn creek]

Nah it’s intensive battle

[carmine reef]

you're ss3 balt

you're already playing poorly if this were ss0 but for ss3 this is like COMPLETELY wrong

[zenith thorn]

ss3 balt :noway:

[stiff elm]

no comment

[carmine reef]

ss3 balt can do 2.5 rot per swap

[zenith thorn]

my ss0 team could beat that

[paper bone]

idk how

[carmine reef]

you do one ult cycle with core and one ult cycle without core, that's what cottie allows you to do

[thorn creek]

I’m curious how’d u score in other wz

[stiff elm]

ah im using patton

[carmine reef]

yes ss3 runs 4patton 4cottie

take charlotte off

[stiff elm]

the f-

[gray cosmos]

yup thats everyones reaction lol

[gray cosmos]

enjoy your new orb rng

[stiff elm]

like a normal person

[carmine reef]

also youre skipping the basic sequence at the beginning of ult mode for no reason

[stiff elm]

for void... but I really bricked phys rot

[carmine reef]

yes sig allows you to skip it, but it still generates more stacks, and you're waiting around for some reason anyway

you're just kneecapping yourself for no reason

[zenith thorn]

dude i just realised
it's taking me hours to learn new characters rotation

whereas before on balt,hyper and cw
it took me less than an hour to actually learn their rotation :lmaocry:

[stiff elm]

anyways so ss3 with cottie can 2.5?

[carmine reef]

you can do ba4 sequence and then swordwaves and then you'll have enough stacks in the air

[stiff elm]

swap in, ult, sword form, ult, sword form

[carmine reef]

instead you're going straight into the air and then continuing to basic on the ground for like several more unnecessary seconds

[zenith thorn]

new characters brain-dead doko

[paper bone]

are there any ss0 ref videos for void

[visual wind]

If i pay for bpass and mpass rn, any chance im gonna get rekt and not having enough bc for hanying, wanshi and loocia

[carmine reef]

chance yes because of sync

[zenith thorn]

akuma stop lying
i know ur ass is buying all packs

[carmine reef]

unless you plan on buying 3 mp and 3 bp

[visual wind]

Im not acuma

[carmine reef]

[visual wind]

Im wendi lah

[zenith thorn]

[visual wind]

Oi but like mpass and bpass is going for ss0 with sig lifestyle

[carmine reef]

under normal circumstances it would be

[rose yew]

nah make it 9 mp

[carmine reef]

under normal circumstances mp and bp would be very comfortable ss0 sig cub

but because we are under sync, buying only 1 mp/bp when we are doing 3 patches at once

means you are missing out on 2/3 of your usual bc income

you'd have to triple your spending to guarantee the same safety net as before

:))))))))

[shadow holly]

yummers!

[thorn creek]

ez

[maiden wave]

is ss3 balter worth it if you have ss0 once solacetune comes out

[carmine reef]

depends where you're getting it from

[maiden wave]

i'd get it when she comes in vouchers

[shadow holly]

not impactful

[carmine reef]

in general ss3 balter is pretty good. but not worth pull resources

you'll get a free balter copy on her leap

[shadow holly]

its good until hanying

[carmine reef]

i guess she won't be multirotting with hanying yeah

[maiden wave]

ah oh well

[shadow holly]

and it doesnt do anything for trueslash

because she does the leap attack combo instead of the swordwaves

[zenith thorn]

use the leap attack for physical
very good

10000% more dmg

[thorn creek]

It'll save u vouchers to SSS balter leap so u can invest more towards SSS wanshi LD

[carmine reef]

lowkey i might be getting balter from the luna selector

i don't think there's any better option for me

[zenith thorn]

tbh this selector is kinda hard to gauge which one is actually a better choice

[thorn creek]

between who?

balter and scire?

[zenith thorn]

scire and empy

[carmine reef]

it's hard to tell when you already have them

[zenith thorn]

atleast that's what i think anyway

[carmine reef]

i have s scire so ss0 scire will do nothing for me, and going for ss3 at this point isn't a very effective investment, i think

[zenith thorn]

what should beginners pick

[thorn creek]

Ig it depends on what u already have in terms of each characters

[carmine reef]

scire

scire is the best pick if you're missing her

[thorn creek]

I have SS3 empy from luck, SS3 daren, and SS0 balter so balter option looks pretty worth to me

[carmine reef]

but if you already have her, i feel that her ranks aren't really worth the investment anymore

[zenith thorn]

tbh im still going for ss0 scire then ss3 by vouchers and skull

already have her sig
so why not