📨・meta-help

[vocal lynx]

She may be Attacker but she can be Dark Tank too yk?

OR OR…

She will replace herself and become a Lightning Unit with Burn affix

🤷

Already?

They feel brand new

I don’t want Lamia to be replaced 😔

[foggy ridge]

well that was boring in leader i didnt even bother to restart when i messed up lmao

has it been a year or so already?

[sly geyser]

wym the oldest ? qukra is only 1 yo

[vocal lynx]

can we have a new true slash dmg output?

stigmata needs to disappear completely

[spiral merlin]

SwordPower amp

[sly geyser]

and no more recycled character pls

it starting to get me sick

[vocal lynx]

Trueslash support?

It would be good if we get a Rosetta True Slash DMG Output unit

[dreamy pelican]

hey chat

is dv empy better than elizabeth guin empy?

[analog cargo]

for wz allways been

[dreamy pelican]

in my runs i find that empy's having way too much uptime while waiting for wata swap in cd

[dreamy pelican]

[cold walrus]

i bet next alpha will be dark attacker, because lucia and alpha never were dark attackers unlike other elements

[lusty tendon]

do you have hyperreal

[spiral merlin]

Wdym too much

[analog cargo]

why u here

[dreamy pelican]

i do, but only s5

[spiral merlin]

💀

[vocal lynx]

oh my

[lusty tendon]

can s5 do the regular hyperreal rotation with cottie?

[sly geyser]

it doesn't have any valuable support utility

[vocal lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/hsr-honkai-star-rail-robin-robin-hsr-robin-honkai-star-rail-gif-12641543298850956860

[spiral merlin]

s5 is cooked

[analog cargo]

below ss dont they use dw

[lusty tendon]

I'm a mod

[spiral merlin]

ss hyperreal

[vale raft]

Lee: Hyperreal

Skill - SS

Realm Walk

Level 1 - Unlocked at S5

Triggering Hypermatrix and casting Signature - End of Time will activate all available QTEs.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SS

Lee: Hyperreal gains a 25% Extra DMG Bonus in Hypermatrix. Every time he enters Hypermatrix for the first time after being switched in, his alternative self from another worldline will perform a Red or Yellow 3-Ping and return a set of recorded 3-Ping Orbs. Performing Signature - Collapsing Realm, restores 10 Signature Energy (20 instead if 4 Sight Points were consumed). If he is switched out after performing Signature - End of Time, Covering Fire will be triggered (up to 4 times) with 3 sniping shots when other team members performs their Signature Moves, each shot dealing 400% Fire DMG.

[analog cargo]

sry about that,hope it gets better

[vocal lynx]

So many reading

[dreamy pelican]

it takes 2 rots to ult. other than that he does little dmg (if any)

[sly geyser]

below ss u don't use hyperkek

[dreamy pelican]

i cant just solo wata

[sly geyser]

and no sig is also painge

[vocal lynx]

I remember my S5 Hypereal era

[spiral merlin]

It would be better than switching I imagine

[lusty tendon]

shouldn't it be wata 3+3 > hyperreal rot > empyrea core matrix core again > wata ?

[analog cargo]

mine is fine,but mine is ss

[lusty tendon]

wait wata only gets -3 swap at sss

[analog cargo]

below ss chars arent playable

[lusty tendon]

right?

[lusty tendon]

sss epitaph

[vale raft]

Watanabe: Epitaph

Skill - SSS

Siege Break

Level 1 - Unlocked at SS3

Gains 1 Blaze Orb after casting Scorching Torrent. The effect of Watanabe: Epitaph's Scorching Invasion increases by 10%.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SSS

Acts faster when casting Thermal Erosion consecutively. Thermal Superconductivity can stack up to 6 times, and each stack's bonus on the Base DMG of Signature - Explosive Purge increases by 5%. After entering battle, the first successful Parry grants 1 extra Blaze Orb. The effect of Watanabe: Epitaph's Scorching Invasion increases by 10%. Reduces the cooldown of switching between characters by 3s.

[carmine reef]

Also if he has s5 hyper he might not have empy sig which means you cannot empy core right away

[analog cargo]

ye

[lusty tendon]

oh okay there might be extra time then cause no -3

[dreamy pelican]

i do have empy sig

[carmine reef]

Simp

[dreamy pelican]

[analog cargo]

in my rotation i have like 1-2secs that i have to stall in empy

it shoudnt matter that much tho

[sly geyser]

just throw hyperkek out the window at this point

[lusty tendon]

letting hyperreal red orb animations play out before dodge canceling will help

[spiral merlin]

With my fire rot it’s like just perfectly enough time to switch to wata

[dreamy pelican]

so my team should be roller blade nanami, empy and wata?

[analog cargo]

ye i learned that

i dont cancel animation his orbs

if u do,u are like 10years on empy

[turbid bridge]

Empy, wata and another SSS amp

[dreamy pelican]

[turbid bridge]

Assuming your Empy is SS

[dreamy pelican]

selena's back for another off duty qte bot lmao

[analog cargo]

assuming they have a sss amp

[turbid bridge]

Uhhhh

[sly geyser]

yeah solo copium wata with basic atk

[dreamy pelican]

i do have her ss

[analog cargo]

can u send ur rotation

i rly dont understand how ur having such problems

[turbid bridge]

Yea I’m not sure Selena is a suitable choice

[dreamy pelican]

then i got nothin

[sly geyser]

actually u can do swap empy

[ripe stag]

You ARE NOT beating the allegations

Holy hell and people called me you-know-what

[turbid bridge]

Garnet?

[dreamy pelican]

...s garnet

[lusty tendon]

Ya like Yuri said take a short video of your fire rotation, would help to see

[dreamy pelican]

alright, ill try to record it

[analog cargo]

mien from ur invest shoudnt change a lot

urs is just more poverty than mine

[turbid bridge]

That’s fine, it’s either your third member be SSS capri 4 DV 2 guin or S garnet 4 Shakes 2 Gloria

[ripe stag]

Aren't you gigawhale ?

[turbid bridge]

Idk how else to build better

[analog cargo]

?

[vocal lynx]

Help guys! My life is due 5 days! If I don’t get the full quality I will explode and summon 100 meteors and they will all explode Irises and make earth all Irises!

[analog cargo]

what

[foggy ridge]

i need the artists name

[vocal lynx]

Kuro HQ

[deft apex]

Me too, im going to send then some really nice messages

[ripe stag]

Everyone is a whale be it IRL or in games

[foggy ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-hands-on-hips-disappointment-triggered-why-you-always-lying-gif-16828379693797618714

[vocal lynx]

#NewPFP

[analog cargo]

my acc is ss

[ripe stag]

Anyways

[vocal lynx]

Is that Acheron?

[ripe stag]

Yes

[vocal lynx]

Oh

Oh okay

[foggy ridge]

acherfraud

[vocal lynx]

Does my pfp look good guys ?

[deft apex]

No

[ripe stag]

No

[spiral merlin]

I can count the pixels

[vocal lynx]

I have this problem where I lose my mind if my pfp picture frame is horrible and do 100 attempts to get a good pfp

[vocal lynx]

Oh okay

[buoyant hornet]

Any links to phys wz with selena?

[buoyant hornet]

What's this video

[vocal lynx]

Is this better?

[ripe stag]

Detail on what is Luna

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah

[ripe stag]

I can still see pixels and nothing else

[vocal lynx]

I got it here

[spiral merlin]

It’s cut off at the top

[buoyant hornet]

Is it a rotation guide or just details? (Either way it's good to watch instead of having to read another thesis on my own)

[vocal lynx]

Oh okay

[ripe stag]

Rot guide I'll recommend Empress's video
I'm focusing on kit details (old names btw not the official ones), build and team

Like all my other guides

[cinder tartan]

im really trying to get into this game but im having a lot of trouble getting used to the controls on either k&m or controller anyone got any tips?

[shadow holly]

remap them to your liking

[abstract heron]

get good jkjk

[spiral merlin]

Bind the controls to what you’re used to and use kbm or controller either works whatever you like best

[spiral harness]

Guys, which memory set is good for this weapon? It's for Crimson Abyss

[vocal lynx]

Better?

[cold walrus]

how much did nier banners cost?

[abstract heron]

do as trs said

[vocal lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/sparkle-gun-gif-9505668319676988722

[spiral merlin]

Still cut off at the top

[vocal lynx]

Oh okay

[cinder tartan]

im mainly having trouble with orbs 5-8 and mapping them

[shadow holly]

you can go the easy way and join orb clicker gang

[spiral merlin]

You can combine two buttons to an orb

[cinder tartan]

honestly it does sound tempting

[shadow holly]

orb clicker gang on top

[vague nebula]

cottie

[abstract heron]

orb clicker gang on top tbh

[shadow holly]

atp just run 4patton4fred on her i guess
if youve already harmod this godforsaken character

[spiral merlin]

Nah I’d controller

[vocal lynx]

Hi

[shadow holly]

?? whats cottie gonna do on ca

[cinder tartan]

do most people using kb&m click the orbs?

[vocal lynx]

Yeah, I gave up..

[feral pollen]

chat what do i spend this on

[spiral merlin]

Cogs

[carmine reef]

Orb clickers no rights

[analog cargo]

who ghost pinged me

[carmine reef]

Not me but hi yuri

[analog cargo]

meow

[shadow holly]

idk about "most" but there is a good portion of us

[carmine reef]

[analog cargo]

[vocal lynx]

Hows my pfp guys?

[analog cargo]

they used to call me stupid for clicking orbs

now everyone does it,it has come full circle

[shadow holly]

[lusty tendon]

My setup:

Orbs from right to left
1 2 3 4 r e q t

Ult
Space bar

Dodge
Shift

Manual lock
F

Pet/ CUB
5

QTEs
Side mouse buttons

Basic attack
Left mouse click

[spiral merlin]

reqt is crazy

[carmine reef]

I use 1-8 for orbs like default but i put ult on mouse4 and rapid fire on mouse5

[cinder tartan]

ill try this out before i was using vcxz for orbs 1-4 as i saw on a video and not knowing exactly where my thumb was was throwing me off

[lusty tendon]

i just did it based on how easy each key was to press, with t being the hardest so that's the orb at the end

[spiral merlin]

I’d want the last orb to be easy to press personally

[analog cargo]

did u change stuff from emu to client

mine allways been the same

[lusty tendon]

yeah it's the same

[vocal lynx]

【【战双】吹牛逼呢！?这叫EX咖喱棒🔥！！赛琳娜你开过吗?！-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/RXJ1mUS

[cold walrus]

my settings are a little crazy

[spiral merlin]

Looks to be a similar amount of crazy than mine tbh

[fallow birch]

Is Lamia a ranged character?

[opaque ridge]

yes

[fallow birch]

Then why is her damage still basically 0 in 10-2 stronghold?

[cinder tartan]

i hate having to do 2 buttons for 1 action

[spiral merlin]

xbox layout

Orbs
B A Y L1+R1 L1+B L1+A L1+X L1+Y

Basic attack
X

Manual lock
R3

Dodge
R2

Ult
L2

Cub
DPad Left

Qte
DPad Up/Down

[opaque ridge]

whats ranged got to do with damage?

[fallow birch]

Can't clear it. This is 10-2 stronghold

[spiral merlin]

Are you having trouble with an enemy that looks like a spider

[fallow birch]

Yeah, single one

[spiral merlin]

Try using physical units for that battle

[vocal lynx]

【赛琳娜带领物理队突破历史最高分1260w-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/srERLxc

[subtle zinc]

i use 1234qert also and I have trouble with T I may change it to F lol

[vocal lynx]

Sorry, I had to search for it again!

[feral pollen]

out of curiosity how would this particular stage go with luna? she technically doesn't do either phys or ele

[vague nebula]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1042948069152526336.gif

[spiral merlin]

Void probably counts as elemental so I imagine much the same as other elements

[fallow birch]

Oh, I have to stop here then. I only have Lee as a phys DPS. I haven't upgraded him yet

[vocal lynx]

My pfp boring pose

[cinder tartan]

actually quite liking this although i changed t to f

[vocal lynx]

I am back

[lusty tendon]

nice

[spiral merlin]

[buoyant hornet]

Oh YOU'RE making this?

[ripe stag]

Yes ?

[vocal lynx]

Empress Luna guide is pure hell because it is true

[buoyant hornet]

Neat I'll be watching when it's out :)

[ripe stag]

Thanks in advance

[buoyant hornet]

I thought you were posting screenshots from a video 😭

[ripe stag]

Would have posted it way before but exams are killing me

[charred patio]

Is feral still gud to build or do i better invest in someone else as there's Ishmael? I mean limited resourse like skulls & weap reso

[spiral merlin]

Luna has the unfortunate circumstance of playing void wz so her rot changes all the time

[vocal lynx]

Me too

[ripe stag]

She's in Lightning team as QTE bot

A very important qte bot

[dreamy pelican]

god uploading clips is hell

[vocal lynx]

The rot I use

I know

It gets worse…

[vocal lynx]

Oh god

Painful

[buoyant hornet]

Gl with exams

[ripe stag]

Thanks a lot

[buoyant hornet]

So she doesn't have a fixed rot?

[spiral merlin]

She does if you want to be braindead with her

You need to adjust how you play every void wz if you want luna to hit shields

[lusty tendon]

About as fixed of a rot as CW

[buoyant hornet]

I unfortunately can't bring myself to play braindead even if I want to

[buoyant hornet]

Oh lord

[buoyant hornet]

Is it like super complicated or just understanding different scenarios

And does the empress guide tackle that stuff?

[spiral merlin]

It’s not super complicated you just need to do a little bit of trial and error

[spiral merlin]

I don’t think so

You can watch old videos tho to see how luna varies

[buoyant hornet]

Problem is it's hard to find ss0 videos for her but I think snazz might have a couple

[dreamy pelican]

@analog cargo @lusty tendon sorry for ping but here ya go

ignore everything after the 50 second mark

https://youtu.be/Nx2YuPZblyA

[spiral merlin]

Her gameplay doesn’t change beyond ss0

[analog cargo]

why are u using deer on wata

oh my god the 9x9

[dreamy pelican]

i forgot to change that

thats on me

[lusty tendon]

Just let Lee red orbs do their dmg/ play out

[analog cargo]

stop canceling the animation of hyperreal

[lusty tendon]

You'll be fine

Lee red orbs do good dmg

[dreamy pelican]

you dont anim cancel lee?

[analog cargo]

no

if u have sss wata u can

[dreamy pelican]

[vocal lynx]

u don’t?

[spiral merlin]

Even with sss wata red orbs are nice

[analog cargo]

and pls

do not do a matrix 3 ping

[lusty tendon]

https://youtu.be/GXsM16-xhco?si=otanJUaItJXQmJJR
No animation cancel on Lee red orbs

[dreamy pelican]

i just noticed

[analog cargo]

made me sad

[spiral harness]

Guys, who's the best healer in the game?

[carmine reef]

The punishment for making yuri sad is death

[dreamy pelican]

[buoyant hornet]

Wait a fckn minute I didn't know annihilator passive makes buffs/shred UNIVERSAL

I thought it converted to void directly

[carmine reef]

It technically doesn't

[vocal lynx]

good morning

[vocal lynx]

what about ppc? is it a different scenario?

[carmine reef]

It doesn't include phys

[spiral merlin]

Wdym

[vocal lynx]

i mean lee

[buoyant hornet]

Phys shafted as usual

[spiral harness]

[vocal lynx]

my bad

[analog cargo]

wdym

[dreamy pelican]

can i cancel yellow orbs? or do i just. not anim cancel at all

[analog cargo]

whos using hyperreal in ppc

[vocal lynx]

omg i forgot

[spiral merlin]

Lee in ppc

[vocal lynx]

he isn’t usable anymore (i don’t use him too)

[dreamy pelican]

i use it in hell

[analog cargo]

actual hell

[vocal lynx]

yeah, forget my question i forgot no one uses him in ppc

[lusty tendon]

Yellow is a bit slower since the dmg comes overtime rather than as the animation happens like red orb

So up to you

[vocal lynx]

i used to animation cancel orbs though like windbell during no watanabe

[lusty tendon]

Red orb dmg is when Lee hits the peak of his jump

[dreamy pelican]

after he throws his fckass gun?

[analog cargo]

and if ur going to animation cancel,dont just dash behind

[lusty tendon]

Uhhh if you play with sfx it's when he fires his gun

[analog cargo]

cuz skills can miss even with their big ass range

[lusty tendon]

At the top of the red orb jump animation

[dreamy pelican]

ahhh got got

[spiral harness]

Damn i got ignored so bad i'm questioning my own existence

[dreamy pelican]

now the age ol question; dump lee or let him stay

[carmine reef]

Cause there is no best healer

[lusty tendon]

It's not an answerable question

[carmine reef]

You've fundamentally misunderstood the nature of the game

[spiral harness]

That's why I came here

To ask for help

[analog cargo]

why would u not play him

[lusty tendon]

Better question would be something like "who is the best support character for lightning team"

Or dark team etc

[carmine reef]

In this game you don't mix and match, you build teams of specific elements for whichever element the content requires

[analog cargo]

better question is,can cw die

[dreamy pelican]

idk some ppl told me to bring sss selena for dv and use an empy wata rot instead

[spiral harness]

For example who's the best support for Crimson abyss?

[analog cargo]

u should be using dv on empy

[dreamy pelican]

bc my lee is still sigless and s5

[carmine reef]

Alisa echo

[lusty tendon]

Alisa

[analog cargo]

i dont think sss selena is better than empy at fire

unless u have sig resos

[dreamy pelican]

massive typo there, mb

but yeah im using dv on empy currently

[spiral harness]

In what way? Leader skill?

[carmine reef]

@spiral harness this is in pins https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SusxJ3tYwsBqY3dPwJ9BG2tDW0ox5GqVJgGZHYnAqa8/edit?usp=sharing

[analog cargo]

the video u weren

[lusty tendon]

Her qte gives bonus dmg and 100% crit rate to crimson abyss

[vocal lynx]

oh my GOD

[spiral harness]

I know I'll get bullied but how does QTE work?

[vocal lynx]

no one will bully you

[carmine reef]

An off field character uses a specific skill

[vocal lynx]

this isn’t the community for that

[analog cargo]

i hate new players

[lusty tendon]

You press a 3 ping of the same color as Alisa (example: blue) and then you press Alisa's portrait when she lights up.

[vocal lynx]

(i get bullied for my warzone scores)

[dreamy pelican]

but i am

i triggered lee qte twice during wata rot

[spiral harness]

Oh you mean "switching" during a certain combo, for example in the matrix

[lusty tendon]

Pressing a 3 ping of a color will activate the QTE of the corresponding color

[carmine reef]

Its the same input as switching but you dont switch

[analog cargo]

doble qte dosent do much in that case

[lusty tendon]

So if Alisa is in the blue slot and you press 3 blues on Alpha, you can qte Alisa

[spiral harness]

Yes i know what yall mean

[vocal lynx]

sometimes ranks also activate qtes during sig or a core passive move

[spiral harness]

Alright, thanks

[vocal lynx]

for example, bianca stigmata lets you activate qte during signature at a rank

yeah hold on..

[dreamy pelican]

i did double wata qte too during lee rot... 😔

[carmine reef]

A rank stigmata poggers

[spiral harness]

Is Liv : Luminance a good character?

[carmine reef]

No

[lusty tendon]

QTE stands for "quick time event," so Alisa will show up for a few moments to buff Crimson Abyss during her QTE

[spiral merlin]

She’s just a worse alisa

[analog cargo]

if its 2 diff waves it makes sense

[dreamy pelican]

no. you can get someone who does exactly what she does but better

and for free

[carmine reef]

Check the spreadsheet i already linked you, brother

[spiral harness]

For example?

[lusty tendon]

He def is not reading that

[carmine reef]

[dreamy pelican]

his ass is NOT reading the spreadsheet

[frail hinge]

I like how they're doing the joint updates trailers

[spiral harness]

Ya i'm at work rn

[vocal lynx]

@spiral harness this very helpful guide helped me on learning qtes and how it works

https://youtu.be/1c66xc5_8w4?si=Q1WsyJRhTKcJI0KP

[carmine reef]

It's literally made to be easy to read

[spiral merlin]

Easy or not the hurdle is the reading part

[vocal lynx]

da vinci is very important in PGR

[lusty tendon]

Great video 10/10 would recommend

[frail hinge]

Alisa: echo

S rank
Physical supporters

Is free at the dorm shop and would fare fare better than luminance :D

[dreamy pelican]

gee i wonder who made this

[vocal lynx]

yes my saviour video

[dreamy pelican]

some masterpiece here

[carmine reef]

Is that on old dc

[spiral harness]

Is she a healer tho or just a buffer?

[vocal lynx]

if it weren’t for this video i would’ve been stuck spamming qtes like a idiot (i still do on dark)

[dreamy pelican]

both.

[spiral merlin]

Both

[vocal lynx]

she is an amplifier support,healer c:

[carmine reef]

We only want healers for the buffs nowadays

[frail hinge]

Both!
Amplifiers in pgr both heal and buff ´ ▽ ` )ﾉ

[vocal lynx]

you can watch some guides on youtube to learn what her role etc does

do not fret

[carmine reef]

Healing itself is mostly unnecessary

[lusty tendon]

Getting hit in this game is not common these days

[vocal lynx]

true that

unless ur in babel…

[spiral harness]

Is Garnet still good?

[frail hinge]

Clearly none of you play base s lamia

[vocal lynx]

depends on ur issue

[carmine reef]

I'm losing it

[vocal lynx]

i don’t want to comment

[analog cargo]

whos this guy

[carmine reef]

This is the third question that could've been answered by just looking at my sheet

[analog cargo]

does he know anything about the game

[frail hinge]

She's alright

But her replacement should be coming soon so I wouldn't advise goung after her (╥﹏╥)

[vocal lynx]

garnet is good FOR now but she gets powercrept during Startrail Nanamis patch

[lusty tendon]

This video helped me a lot 10/10 would watch 100 times and comment and like and subscribe

[buoyant hornet]

Watching empress luna guide and wtf is happening

[vocal lynx]

Jeremy

[vocal lynx]

I know, Empress is revealing secrets

[spiral harness]

Damn i already got her coating

[frail hinge]

Using Chrome: arclight is a very nice substitute for the time being

[analog cargo]

hit the bell button too?

[carmine reef]

[dreamy pelican]

damn. now im getting ghosted

but yea do i use my current team or do i change it to sss crappi dv bot/s garnet shakes bot and empy wata for rot

[lusty tendon]

Yessir

[vocal lynx]

What a pity, you can use her for stylish I guess when her replacement is here or babel for fun

[frail hinge]

PFFFT

We all make beginner mistakes irs chill

[buoyant hornet]

There's so much going on it's impossible to comprehend without using the character myself first 😭

[vocal lynx]

Plus she still has a bit time to release

[lusty tendon]

Lucia out in like 2 more patches, up to you

[vocal lynx]

Mhm. I use one rotation for a reason

Too stressing & Can’t be bothered!

[analog cargo]

its been 5 hours and 26 minutes without a Jeremey video I can’t stop shaking and I’m having severe mental breakdowns. I woke up today and immediately logged onto Discord but all that greeted me was nothingness, 0 activity from Jeremey. I had a major panic attack but managed to calm down after a few hours. I am nothing without their videos, it is my life and my everything. I don't think I can hold on for much longer, put a note on my grave when jeremey makes a video again

[buoyant hornet]

Also luna needing BA weaving while doing just 2 rotations is so funny kuro really bricked her orb economy on purpose to make her sig mandatory 😭😭

[vocal lynx]

She is so orb hungry

[dreamy pelican]

b-but my warzone...

[lusty tendon]

i just posted my last pgr video it's over already

[buoyant hornet]

I can't afford to do that in competitive modes 😭

[lusty tendon]

next video will def not be pgr

[analog cargo]

[vocal lynx]

I thought her rotation was enter -> hold basic -> spam orb -> hold basic -> signature move = leave

Until I saw the Empress video

[glass bay]

I can't believe kuso made everyone kiwi

[dreamy pelican]

its jerover

[lethal sun]

Where’s maplestory

[vocal lynx]

I will never forget my Selena QTE bot days

[frail hinge]

Isn't v2 already out?

[buoyant hornet]

Learning how BA weaving actually works changed my life I'm so serious

[vocal lynx]

She was my Physical bot till Hanying

No, those were just small changes that doesn’t impact numbers etc

[buoyant hornet]

Before I didn't understand the concept of using a single BA between moves I thought it was useless

[vocal lynx]

V2 will be out soon

[frail hinge]

Wait its useful?

[vocal lynx]

I got more into it during Qu

[digital moat]

Gets u more orbs

[lethal sun]

BA weaving was always useful since the launch of this game

[frail hinge]

Someone gimme a video on basic attack weaving I didn't know it was that useful what

[vocal lynx]

Yes

[buoyant hornet]

I think it was Zex who said the word "cooldown" to describe orb generation via basics and it all magically clicked in my head

[frail hinge]

In between orbs tho ?

Noted

[vocal lynx]

Basic attack is important

[carmine reef]

During qu? These mfs must be whels to have swap dark then

[buoyant hornet]

@carmine reef saved my pgr gameplay lmfao

[carmine reef]

[frail hinge]

Someone come explain to me pretty please

[buoyant hornet]

Thank you sir

[frail hinge]

YOU
EXPLAIN PLEASE

[spiral merlin]

I think it’s that the game only checks periodically if you’re basic attacking and awards an orb if you basic attack during all checks

[carmine reef]

Basics generate orbs but it's on a cooldown

[spiral merlin]

So you can do inputs between checks

[frail hinge]

I thought ya had to constantly basic attack

[digital moat]

After yoy basic attack there is an interval when if you basic you generate an orb

[spiral merlin]

And you’ll still get orbs

[carmine reef]

Well you thought wrong

[vocal lynx]

You can’t always expect to rely on DLT

[frail hinge]

Whaaaa

[stray siren]

0.5s CD

[dreamy pelican]

zex was also the one who helped me get to hero in wz- literally made me change how i play almost every character and rot

if not i wouldve been a hardstuck elite playar

[digital moat]

And it's fixed so

[buoyant hornet]

Well it's hard to put into words but imagine that basically every move that counts as a basic attack adds to a hypothetical orb generation "meter"

[frail hinge]

OK so

I can meet the checks my BAing between orbs?
Is that it?

[digital moat]

^

[carmine reef]

[spiral merlin]

Ah well functionally the same

[digital moat]

zexlao

[frail hinge]

Huh

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah I used to think you need to spam multiple BA hits to get any good orb gain but no every basic between moves can be valuable

[dreamy pelican]

holy sht is that xi????????

[vocal lynx]

huhh?

[buoyant hornet]

Based

[dreamy pelican]

xxzexlao

[stray siren]

Plume Vietnam moment

[carmine reef]

You can BA between orbs, or between rots, or between whatever, it depends on the character when the optimal time to basic weave is

[digital moat]

[lusty tendon]

Just need to land a basic atk once every 1.5s and you get an orb

[frail hinge]

So the basic attacks are more Gilling out the min requirements to gain an orb

What's the difference between BA weaving and non BA weaving?

Is it massive or is it a min max thing

[frail hinge]

So much more info aaahhh

[dreamy pelican]

xi? the song maker?

[frail hinge]

OK what about BA weaving for wata?

[carmine reef]

It also depends how much you need the orbs

[buoyant hornet]

Mostly minmax but some characters are kinda reliant on it
Also it allows some characters to have copium solo instead of 0 solo (like wata)

[stray siren]

Selena solo is possible with that

[opaque ridge]

solo gameplay

[frail hinge]

For someone like luna I'd guess that it's super valuable

[vocal lynx]

I am not sure

[spiral merlin]

1.5s periodic check

[frail hinge]

Righ

[lusty tendon]

You basic on wata for different reasons

[digital moat]

I thought its like
You basic timer starts
After 1s the half second orb generation interval starts and ends in 0.5s

[vocal lynx]

This is the song.

[frail hinge]

Oh wow

[buoyant hornet]

^^^^

[frail hinge]

To use up his shells right?

[lethal sun]

I don’t this game is complicated enough for it to be like that

[buoyant hornet]

Phys selena?

[lethal sun]

It’s just 1.5 straight up

[digital moat]

He can do it between 3pings

[lusty tendon]

Yes for the blaze orbs

[stray siren]

Nah ,Dark

[digital moat]

[carmine reef]

I've tested the timer before.myself

It is indeed just 1.5s straight up

[digital moat]

[buoyant hornet]

Not needed as much aside from maybe copium ppc runs where you need 3 rots but it does allow him to have some degree of solo capability

[carmine reef]

That's why cw slam works

[dreamy pelican]

ah

thought it was xi; the style's very similar, reminds me of them

[buoyant hornet]

If your wata swaps you don't need to bother I think

[vocal lynx]

i see

[frail hinge]

Alr imma try

I don't think I got any characters that would use BA weaving alot

My lamia is base s so she BAs. By force

Lee obviously not

CA Bas normally

No qu

And then wata

[carmine reef]

Wata sig can do 3 rot fine too

Past that requires weaving

[buoyant hornet]

Also laurel solo relies on it too

[lusty tendon]

[lethal sun]

Laurel in 2025

[frail hinge]

Yeah I 3 rot with wata normally

[frail hinge]

I got stigmata does she benefit alot from it?

[opaque ridge]

3 rot for what

[stray siren]

yeah, was super fun

[dreamy pelican]

BA this, BA that

go take a BAth damnit

[buoyant hornet]

Also as Zex mentioned, some moves like cw slam and lamia's dive actually fall under basic attack category so they do generate orbs

[lusty tendon]

Whale spotted

[carmine reef]

Stigmata doesn't just basic weave, she spends a whole mode only basic attacking

[frail hinge]

Idk I just feel incomplete when I don't 3 rot on the first swap with wata

[sinful shadow]

[carmine reef]

And they do generate orbs in that mode

[buoyant hornet]

Also for some reason qu's core passive does too even though it's not labeled as basic

[dreamy pelican]

[lethal sun]

Bozo spotted

[frail hinge]

Ah yeah lmao

[dreamy pelican]

kuso was too lazy to code for sht so they just referenced the ba code

[buoyant hornet]

Don't mind me I'm starting up a new acc for my cousin to use after exams and I have to cope with laurel main carry lmfao

[frail hinge]

What are some character that REALLY benefit from Ba weaving

I'd assume luna(does she still benefit when she has dlc)
Probably pyroath
who Else?

[vocal lynx]

We all have exams..

[lethal sun]

Plume

[carmine reef]

Qu, lamia

[spiral merlin]

Now how about Daren spin counted as basic attack but no orb gen

[opaque ridge]

i play maplestory, i cannot be a bozo

[vocal lynx]

So stressing ):

[frail hinge]

I got 2 tests next week when all I wanna do is play luna uuuuuvh

[carmine reef]

If you play maplestory you can only be a bozo

[dreamy pelican]

maplestory

[foggy ridge]

thats an oxymoron

[lusty tendon]

Stigmata basic weaving is actually pretty legit these days with how shit Patton is to use

[vocal lynx]

I have 2 more tests left

[buoyant hornet]

Cw, qu, both lunas, sometimes lamia if doing niche stuff

[vocal lynx]

Physic,Maths

Tomorrow is Physics and I haven’t studied at all nor can be bothered to 😃

[frail hinge]

And cn characters?

[carmine reef]

Cw doesn't basic weave unless you're solo

[vocal lynx]

I don’t understand the subject so, there is no point in working my brain onto something I clearly have no sense of

[carmine reef]

Lamia basic weaves if solo which is far likelier than cw

So cw basic is more niche than lamia basic lol

[frail hinge]

What are some more techs I can use to enter hero (or retain leader)

[buoyant hornet]

Stigmata the og anti orb rng character (until ss3+ ended up having to drop Charlotte)

[lusty tendon]

To add to this CW "basic" is her sword waves; the dodge > basic input

[rose yew]

the tech of swiping credit cards

[dreamy pelican]

wait are you going through spm rn??????????

[lusty tendon]

Learn how to chain waves properly and what breakpoints are for each run

[dreamy pelican]

i might be stupid idk

but lemme check the jadual rq

[buoyant hornet]

Ngl non charlotte balter isn't AS atrocious as I expected but it can ruin a run if you get an omega bricked orb arrangement

[frail hinge]

Wha?

[carmine reef]

Qte management is the biggest thing probably

[frail hinge]

Chain
waves?
Break points?

[buoyant hornet]

Ok so I need to understand the exact meaning of breakpoints because I've been thinking about it

[dreamy pelican]

nvm

maths is tomorrow but phys is next week

[opaque ridge]

spam skill
drink pot to recover mp
spam more skill
re-buff

[sinful shadow]

Just click qte when available, simple

[vocal lynx]

I’m just doing exams the Teachers give. Sorry, I have no idea what you said just now 💔 I live in Turkiye and go to year 9 because my Turkish is bad so. I’m just following what the higher ups say!

[carmine reef]

Breakpoints is like you learn exactly how much dmg you need to clear a wave and exactly how much you need to do to achieve that

[vocal lynx]

Mine is Physic tomorrow and Maths Friday

[lethal sun]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-fn-fortnite-big-pot-big-pot-small-pot-gif-27398462

[vocal lynx]

Typo oops

[buoyant hornet]

It's especially noticable in early waves but you'll see that new meta characters can do stuff to kill multiple waves without using too many resources

[shadow holly]

thresholds you need to reach to continue your run by the established plan
like finish N wave with that char, do at least this much damage with X char on this wave so that Y char can finish it off
and so on

[carmine reef]

Wz is all about using only as much as you need so you can save resources for the next

[vocal lynx]

I meant Turkish

[dreamy pelican]

we have this thing called an spm, all high schoolers have to take it- kinda like the gaokao

ive passed mine years ago, but coincidentally enough, this year's spm is still taking place

[frail hinge]

Oh I already do those yay

[carmine reef]

You want to avoid overkilling in wz cause that's damage you could have used on the next wave

[vocal lynx]

Oh my…

[lusty tendon]

This in a nutshell

[buoyant hornet]

No clue tbh, maybe hanying? Idk anything about her though

[frail hinge]

Yea but at the same time gotta be realistic and vant expect to use every ult on a fresh wave else dps loss

[shadow holly]

if you knew and played properly you'd be in hero

[vocal lynx]

Student Performance Measure?

[rose yew]

isn't that just a fancy way of saying exam

[frail hinge]

I do know tho I'm still mastering playing (╥﹏╥)

[dreamy pelican]

no, the acronym is in Malay

[buoyant hornet]

Ig it's something I'm really bad at then since I'm very inconsistent with planning later waves so far

[thorn creek]

When wata’s last blaze orb hit the next wave at the last millisecond👌

[vocal lynx]

In here we take small exams and need to get a point of 50 or 70 to pass class cause if we fail 4 classes we have to re read the class at the same year. (Year 9 again) So exhausting 🥲

[vocal lynx]

I see, my bad.

[frail hinge]

Ran into this when I kept trying to kill off a wave without ultimate bur couldn't foe the life of me kill them fast enough

[dreamy pelican]

Sijil Pelajaran Malaysia (Malaysian Academic Certificate)

[thorn creek]

Smh go study

Then get hard career and have no time for PGR

[carmine reef]

Sometimes that means you have to switch up how you played earlier

[dreamy pelican]

damn 😔

[lusty tendon]

For example, in fire warzone... wata being able to get the last part of blaze orb shred from w8 to w9 will give wata just enough dmg to finish w9 with his ult. If wata does not get the carry over blaze orb, he will not be able to finish w9. If he is able to finish w9, lee will be able to full rotation kill w10. If Lee is able to full kill w10, empyrea can do enough dmg to w11, for wata's next rotations blaze orbs to carry over to w12 again etc

[vocal lynx]

I can’t because I don’t understand the subject is Turkish and as I said my Turkish is horrible

[lusty tendon]

So the breakpoint here is wata being able to get the blaze orb leftover dmg to w9

If this doesn't happen you're already behind 1 wave

[thorn creek]

Smh it’s just gobble gobble right

Turkeynese

[lusty tendon]

But the hard part is finding these breakpoints since they're not obvious all the time

[thorn creek]

[spiral merlin]

Way too often with wata it’s just barely not enough to hit next wave it’s so annoying

[carmine reef]

Maybe even behind 2 waves since waves are not equal

[sinful shadow]

[frail hinge]

So im not the only one that does this yay

[buoyant hornet]

What do y'all do to plan beyond wave 8 because I just end up kinda losing track and going semi unga bunga

[stray siren]

Just one tap

[carmine reef]

Sometimes if you dont kill a weak wave you overkill the weak wave on next and then you're extra behind on a tanky wave

And then its all joever

[opaque ridge]

just wan tap

[shadow holly]

you can start off with following a rigid rot then see what goes wrong and adjust

[frail hinge]

I only really keep track of break points through to 8-10 cause past then I gotta start freestyles

[lethal sun]

Me in the left

[buoyant hornet]

Like I end up remembering particularly troublesome waves (bears 💀) but otherwise I struggle to plan out the entire wave sequence

[thorn creek]

The true WZ and PPC way

[dreamy pelican]

different investments also means different breakpoints; its something you alone have to figure out yourself, should you have varying investments from others

like mine for example, i remember having to make my own breakpoints for s5 lee- that was a time before wata, and a time when i still used old nanami

[vocal lynx]

I don’t know… It’s just exhausting because I read at Australia,New Zealand for 5 years and now learning Turkish again (My Family is Turkish but my Mom is Australian and grew there)

So yeah, can’t study 😃

I only studied on topics I understand!

MOVING ON….

[opaque ridge]

ur only doing the left coz ur a controller bozo

[spiral merlin]

My wantaps are usually the highest scoring and I’ll spend hours trying to beat

[buoyant hornet]

YES LMAO

[vocal lynx]

Let me show you guys my wz score

[lethal sun]

Says u bozo

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blast-off-launch-cat-jumping-into-camera-gif-6639037559618288527

[opaque ridge]

im on the right

[frail hinge]

OMG EXACTLY IS THERE A FIRST TRY BONUS OR SUM SHT

[lethal sun]

Yea ok

[buoyant hornet]

Yeahhh same

[spiral merlin]

You score higher when you don’t worry about breakpoints or anything trust

[carmine reef]

Wild I'm the opposite

[dreamy pelican]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1174906710285090876.gif

[lusty tendon]

[carmine reef]

I usually am better at tracking the start and end of the run

[opaque ridge]

score higher when u dont use ur brain

[carmine reef]

But whatever happens in the middle is ???

[spiral merlin]

Exactly

[opaque ridge]

just unga bunga

[buoyant hornet]

Wait that's a great idea I usually try to adapt rots immediately on the fly but following a rigid rotation would help point out what waves need more attention

[vocal lynx]

Oh?

What a great way to ruin my day.

[dreamy pelican]

i dont remember exactly my breakpoints; i just remember some signs here and there that tell me that ive reached my breakpoint

its a bit... weird to word out

[lethal sun]

Time u guys to start tracking waves with a google doc

[stray siren]

I think it's the sequence in WZ

Left: first run with super high score

Middle: malding to get through the first run (u can't)

Right: When you get through the first run and you see that it's just a matter of doing it fast

[lethal sun]

That’s what I used to do

[opaque ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS0O8TvWRmU my jam when i wz

[thorn creek]

Let ye body do da work

[buoyant hornet]

Trueee

[lethal sun]

@lusty tendon should’ve used this for ur last wz video

[vocal lynx]

Uhhh, am I hopeless?

[dreamy pelican]

like for cw; i know that if i ult when the enemy's health bar is x2, ive reached the right breakpoint

[lusty tendon]

The 86 ending was too much of a banger/ symbolic

[vocal lynx]

Why is there all SSS Kareninas?

[lethal sun]

[frail hinge]

Friggin whales

[thorn creek]

Cuz best girl

Jk lamia is

[buoyant hornet]

If your lamia is ss0 with sig and/or cub then you can absolutely do much better than this

[dreamy pelican]

im still number 2

i have no idea how

[buoyant hornet]

Even 5* lamia can do better there

[thorn creek]

No. 7 on Wednesday

[stray siren]

They have very low scores to be SSS Karens

[dreamy pelican]

[lethal sun]

💀

[vocal lynx]

Well, they do c:

[thorn creek]

It’s ur fate for not being whel like me

[buoyant hornet]

Last wz cycle alisa was somehow killing some waves on her own I feel like a proud father

[vocal lynx]

How much should I aim for? I have a base S karenina btw and SS Selena

[dreamy pelican]

whel in eos game

[spiral merlin]

It’s like u want to be bullied frfr

[buoyant hornet]

What's your lamia invest

[vocal lynx]

Every Bilibili stream I watch:

[lusty tendon]

Anyways, who thinks Kuro is going to cook up some crazy announcement during their live stream tomorrow?! Lemme see a raise of hands

[opaque ridge]

[lusty tendon]

Don't all put your hands up at once

[buoyant hornet]

I got 1.86mil maximum after malding with a similar invest

[dreamy pelican]

btw almost everyone is done with their wz; about 3 ppl left

i might have a shot at getting to legend

[vocal lynx]

Whats your rotation?

[lethal sun]

[buoyant hornet]

The most consistent score was 1.7 but I accidentally did 1.86 somehow

[dreamy pelican]

[buoyant hornet]

I have low hopes but I'd love that

[spiral merlin]

Oh wait the stream is soonish

[dreamy pelican]

eos announcement tomorrow

[spiral merlin]

6 hours 💀

[buoyant hornet]

I can make a video if you want but it's mostly following the solo lamia rotation loop that snazz uses in his videos

[stray siren]

Free S rank every patch

[sinful shadow]

[spiral merlin]

Surely Solon will make a personal apology and announce changed packs

[stray siren]

Sepuku

[sinful shadow]

Can't wait for eos

[digital moat]

Inb4 we get pre recorded vid

[vocal lynx]

My first rot is swap to Lamia -> 3 ping -> Tidal Orb -> Ping Matrix Orb + 3 ping + Tidal Orb Hurricane + Sig

3 Ping Orb + 3 Ping orb + Tidal Orb + Basic Attack sequences until she does that one small slash during the sequence + Ping two 3 ping orbs + Tidal Orb + Hold Basic Attack + Sig Move

= Repeat

[opaque ridge]

selena is the first character with fourskin available to unlock by default

[stray siren]

Selena

[spiral merlin]

First character with what??

[dreamy pelican]

draining the selena simps

thats me. im selena simps

[digital moat]

Pause

[rose yew]

that's not selena

[vocal lynx]

I also follow sNazz rot kind of

[buoyant hornet]

Entry > 3p > tidal orb > ult 1 > level 2 tidal orb in fish form

Then the following rot you just do the steps to enter fish form but don't use tidal, spam BA until energy is close to full then 3 ping > dive > ult 2

Loop those 2 rotation patterns

[vocal lynx]

Yes, we got same rots. What about your qte?

[opaque ridge]

wtf my name is SAX now

[shadow holly]

share the zaza
let me huff too

[vocal lynx]

Do you just spam them or do you time them?

[foggy ridge]

wait a damn second

[buoyant hornet]

Basically the 2nd variation is used for orb gain and the 1st variation uses the orbs you gained

[vocal lynx]

Maybe, I have a issue with my qte timing because I spam them both

[foggy ridge]

this is hot ngl

[lethal sun]

Selena is trash

Get it out

[buoyant hornet]

I cycle them to try to hit Daren's qtes on multiple waves (dv on rozen, 4bathlon 2eins on daren)

[vocal lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/meteor-kanye-west-runaway-song-incoming-coming-in-hot-gif-20036967

[opaque ridge]

pgr skin design peaked here

[lethal sun]

🔥

[vocal lynx]

Oh, my set up is..

[opaque ridge]

hmm

[dreamy pelican]

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[vocal lynx]

How?

[shadow holly]

??? how is that ppc setup supposed to work when ur selena isnt buffing without seraphine

[buoyant hornet]

@vocal lynx if you want I can record a run on this specific cycle so you can see the differences in what we're doing

[vocal lynx]

Sure

[vocal lynx]

I don’t know someone here told me to do it 🙃

[rose yew]

I rmb having a qu wz conaprsion somewhere

[vocal lynx]

I don’t remember who

[buoyant hornet]

Fun fact in super short ppc fights my selena gives better score than rozen even at base s without seraphine (for some unexplainable reason)

[rocky valley]

pgr is back baby

[opaque ridge]

pgr is dead

[peak halo]

what the hell that fluc

[dreamy pelican]

i have no idea

[foggy ridge]

duality of pgr player

[shadow holly]

did you get trolled or something
it should only work in case you run rozen together with capri
and that was only the case for daren ppc clears before lamia came out

[shadow holly]

[opaque ridge]

wuwa made so much money that if pgr ceases to exist, it would be a net profit for kuro coz less R&D/occupational costs

[buoyant hornet]

I need to understand why because theoretically they should be identical or selena should be worse

[rocky valley]

They need pgr money for lunch and candies

[shadow holly]

guess maybe in these super niche cases ur selena wins because amp buff has better duration and coverage than rozen's 20% buff on qte

[dreamy pelican]

[vocal lynx]

Wait, so is the memory not doing any effect even? 😔

[peak halo]

bro i literally 3 patch ago seen like that fluc in my hero bracket

[stray siren]

Amp buff i think, I also did it on my f2p account

[rocky wedge]

rozen's buff is also only 5s

[opaque ridge]

OHSHIT THAT REMINDS ME

[ripe stag]

Anyone has a good Oblivion Chibi ?

Transparent background will be better

[stray siren]

Teddy better

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah ig it's the 10s vs rozen's 5s that only procs on qte

[ripe stag]

Why does this rot feel illegal

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah

[buoyant hornet]

Speaking of, how long does teddy's last?

[rose yew]

13s?
or was it 12

[buoyant hornet]

That's wild lol

[stray siren]

8s i think at ss3 heals twice every 4s

[vocal lynx]

So, what do I do Selenas memorys?

Please don’t lie

[buoyant hornet]

Damn rozen got powercrept even as qte bot

[vocal lynx]

I already got tricked 🫤

[buoyant hornet]

Wz?

In wz I just use rozen tbh

[vocal lynx]

Running this when it does nothing

[buoyant hornet]

Unless your selena is harmo r1 or something

[vocal lynx]

I just have Selenas Sig

[shadow holly]

well i guess it kinda works
just for very short clears

[rose yew]

oh hey that's my ppc set for solo laurel

[buoyant hornet]

It doesn't do "nothing" it's just that Selena's dark radiation buff is tied to seraphine

[lusty tendon]

@rocky wedge check cc lobby

[deft apex]

Remove this pin

Also this one

[ripe stag]

Done

[vocal lynx]

I checked some videos and saw that people run 2pc Gui and 4pc Seraphine

[vocal lynx]

Pity…

[buoyant hornet]

In my case it only works with dv guin because tank needs to carry bath/eins but yeah base selena in general can work in ppc

[buoyant hornet]

It means you're missing a 10% dark buff which like

Atp it's just better to use rozen or teddy for wz

[ripe stag]

WHERE ?

[rose yew]

Im still running 4 sera 2 dar 2 cottie for capri wz tbh

[ripe stag]

Dark team ?

[vocal lynx]

I searched Lilith EX PPC and saw it

[stray siren]

Just do the math, Sera is 10% buff

DV is 20 iirc

Plus

Bathlon on scire is 15 debuff + 15 from eins iirc

[ripe stag]

Btw anyone got Luna Oblivion Chibi emojis ?

Really need it rn

[deft apex]

Pfp?

[buoyant hornet]

4 sera will ALWAYS lose out to 4dv

[ripe stag]

No
Need it for the guide's thumbnail

[deft apex]

Sec

[buoyant hornet]

Especially at sub SSS

[vocal lynx]

I see, I see…

[buoyant hornet]

10% + 20% buff plus qte cycling vs sera's 10% buff

[deft apex]

u want the round one?

[ripe stag]

She can't even buff without sera

[deft apex]

or square

[ripe stag]

Which one ?

Show

[dusky quarry]

No hopes from me, just some redeem codes and devs Listened but didn't act stuff

[buoyant hornet]

She misses the dark radiation but other things do buff

[deft apex]

have both

[ripe stag]

And that's exactly what you want

[vocal lynx]

I am kind of confused guys.

[ripe stag]

Oh no not this

I want actual emojis

[deft apex]

ohh ok

[buoyant hornet]

Dv is 30 depending on how you time the 4pc effect

[ripe stag]

Like you know the ones in-game or in Kurobbs

[deft apex]

yea i get it now

[ripe stag]

Let me ask if Alteri has it or not

[vocal lynx]

@buoyant hornet Do i change anything on Karenina or?

[deft apex]

the one where she's got the apple and falls?

[buoyant hornet]

We were talking about rozen vs capri in that regards, even at base s without sera she's better than rozen at fast ppc clears but in wz she's worse

[ripe stag]

Nah thts a coating

[stray siren]

Holy 30

[vocal lynx]

I do have 2pc Eins 4pc Bathlon but I don’t have Harmony

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah use this for sure

[stray siren]

Don't need harmo

[buoyant hornet]

And for wz use sss rozen or ss3 teddy over capri

4dv 2gui

[vocal lynx]

I see

[rose yew]

can't even download image cuz storage full

[opaque ridge]

download more storage then

[peak halo]

if i got this wz legend promo, i lost fate on humanity

[vocal lynx]

I wish I had SSS Cappricio - I hate myself for learning to invest the game after a while. 💔

I even pulled her sig which has no use now

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah it's insane

[vocal lynx]

Anywho, I will use Rozen as said. Anything for a good score!

[buoyant hornet]

Dw lilith will free us from worrying about capri

[buoyant hornet]

Lilith at base S literally has identical buffs to SSS selena except she doesn't need sig mem for her dark radiation

[vocal lynx]

Yes, Selena will get a frame too right after c: I will still play my beloved.

I will do WZ now, thanks for the feedback and pointing out my wrogs and rights

[stray siren]

Same, but it's my work cell phone and I can't delete anything until I move everything to a hard drive

[rocky wedge]

well in warzone even a r0 harmo feral or alisa would be better

[deft apex]

@ripe stag these?

[rocky wedge]

cause they can hold 4 guin

or any amplifier with weapon reso can replace her

[deft apex]

jetavi milk emote

very important

[ripe stag]

YES YES

[ripe stag]

Also send this

[vocal lynx]

Hold on, let me get stickers too

[deft apex]

crimson oblivion

[vocal lynx]

I’m pretty there is a summer Luna one

[buoyant hornet]

I keep forgetting about this tbh

[rocky wedge]

been keeping my dark afloat in tw

[vocal lynx]

@ripe stag This has everything you are looking for. https://wiki.biligame.com/zspms/表情包

[buoyant hornet]

Between harmo empy r1 and harmo alisa r0 I'm guessing empy is better despite the sht qte?

[rocky wedge]

ye empy r1 should be better with harmo

[buoyant hornet]

@vocal lynx do you have either?

[rocky wedge]

she can also hold 4 guin

4 dv 4 guin

[deft apex]

nice

[buoyant hornet]

Should I use GS or axial ray

[vocal lynx]

I have Empy R1

No Harmo

[rocky wedge]

u could use axial its fine

[rocky wedge]

just give her 4dv 2 guin

[vocal lynx]

My only Harmo amp is Alisa with no resonances

[rocky wedge]

thats also fine u could try that too

[vocal lynx]

Ok c:

[rocky wedge]

4dv 4 guin

[buoyant hornet]

Just use that instead then

[rocky wedge]

for alisa

[vocal lynx]

Got it

[rocky wedge]

should be better then rozen

much faster qte on alisa also

[vocal lynx]

Loading

[ripe stag]

Got this

[deft apex]

this says crimson oblivion btw

[rocky wedge]

I literally have the highest SS score in hero now with SSS free constructs

tho my dalao would pass me if they werent in legend

[peak halo]

snazz
i got a onetap dark and cant reach my score and figure out with i do good
but i no have 4m total and need it
any hint how i reproduse the run?

[rocky wedge]

play with intention

try to play around using qte's off cd and managing the waves efficiently

ie if u dont need to dive to kill a wave, rather basic and kill with dv + ult and keep the extra orbs to fly fast thru next tankier waves where u can just 2x 3p into tidal into ult + dv

[rocky wedge]

thats fine it doesnt need resos

[vocal lynx]

off I go

color placements?

karen:blue
alisa:red
lamia:yellow

are these ok?

[earnest jay]

For teddy and Bridget, should they be main support build or DPS build? (Only doing it for fun)

[deft apex]

i guess depends

[rocky wedge]

ye

[deft apex]

if you're using them as dps, dps set, if support, support set

pretty self explanatory

[earnest jay]

Does teddy get used initially as a support due to new element?

[rocky wedge]

if u have lamia, teddy uses support set. If you have wata, bridget uses support set

[deft apex]

well she's support class after all so

but she's not really supporting void

she's basically a dark support

[rocky wedge]

only if u dont have harmo feral/empy/alisa and dont have sss selena with weapon reso

she is better dv slave for dark then rozen

[wispy robin]

you can use her a dps in guild battle

[earnest jay]

Ah alright, and here I thought at least teddy be viable with Luna Oblivion

[earnest jay]

I’m guessing Bridget being SSS wouldn’t able to replace a SS Lee?

[opaque ridge]

why is the yinlin keyboard so small

[shadow holly]

anything thats not 60% is big

[opaque ridge]

ur crazy

100% or bust

[shadow holly]

ok sorry 65% is good too

maybe 75%

[opaque ridge]

im not looking forward to the dawn keyboard

[shadow holly]

[subtle zinc]

I'm going for 10s and not sure if my inputs are wrong or if I lack dmg. I know 3 red would be more damage. I'm also paranoid about canceling my core. Should I just be doing swap, dodge, 3p, qtex2, s-orb (while not moving), then hold forward ult1?

[shadow holly]

no hold forward ult1

this clear needs maximum damage you can get

so need full core damage and proper bbbr before ult2

[subtle zinc]

okay so i stay still after s-orb and ult1, then I MUST get matrix blue, x3 blue, x3 red basically

[opaque ridge]

oh no

[vast crystal]

In terms of dmg how high is Luna, she beat wata?

[opaque ridge]

the dawn keyboard has the exact same design of yinlin's

[shadow holly]

matrix blue, 3blue, 3blue, 3red

[subtle zinc]

thank you thank you

I wonder if im canceling core too often in wz now

[shadow holly]

in wz it mostly shouldnt matter but it would be obvious if youre lacking that bit of damage from cancelling core

[vast crystal]

Or qu, how strong is Luna actually...

[shadow holly]

it doubt anyone has tested them in neutral content because there is no important neutral content
other than neutral ppc bosses but exppc is mostly irrelevant after luna patch, just onetap for 1.8m score and dip

[vast crystal]

Hmmm...

[glass bay]

fk cant mald today too tired

[wispy robin]

you can't even test them separately because they only work together

[subtle zinc]

I mean if you are talking about non wz ppc content, if its fire you still use Epi Liv Lee, in void Luna always has Wata so its not like they are competing for anything ^_^

[opaque ridge]

who cares about conventional teams, get effect'd

[vast crystal]

Ok but what if I was doing a score event with 1 team, would I use qu or Luna

Is she just void stick with no dmg?

Ah whatever I can just see myself in 2 days

[opaque ridge]

what are u even asking

[wispy robin]

void better by default cause it has wata
ice will only get close with wanshi

[vast crystal]

About lunas dmg but it's fine

[subtle zinc]

why am i even trying for 10 seconds this is annoying such lol

[opaque ridge]

what about her damage?

luna is void, her primary role is to break purple shields

the only main usage for her is neutral ppc like lamia

3 ping into holding ult

[vast crystal]

Yh but if there is an event like those time stages with scores, why wouldn't I pick Luna as main dps over qu, they usually dont have element effects and all so mostly it's down to dmg and rotation

[vast crystal]

Alright, thnx

[glass bay]

if i mald could get 3.6 maybe but not beating this guy

[wispy robin]

void is still the best for off elementing for its raw power
i once managed to get 850k phys zone with void

[opaque ridge]

if ur luna can kill something ur qu cant in 2-4 seconds, then use luna

[glass bay]

wth altera giving real advice

[vast crystal]

Yh that's all I was asking

[opaque ridge]

her holding ult is 2s
tapping requires u to use 3 + 1 two times for immediate ult

wait no

[vast crystal]

Hmmm

[cold walrus]

damn i wasted all my wata ap on luna

[glass bay]

@shadow holly who the fk is Y10

why bro has s+ everything?

and in hero

[opaque ridge]

thats me

sniping the fk outta u

[glass bay]

u not such small fry pls

[opaque ridge]

i came down here to show u who the boss of this gym is

[glass bay]

they have some SSS

not like u S+ everything even BRS

[opaque ridge]

i have SSS too

pulse, entropy and 9S

[sleek basin]

[glass bay]

Old news u bigger whel now

[peak halo]

@rocky wedge thank u

[opaque ridge]

14k bc, whel

[vocal lynx]

Oh, I wish

[shadow holly]

whale from my old guild
he quit tho

his acc just getting maintained

[glass bay]

Acc buyer?

I'm still cooked right

[shadow holly]

ur always cooked bestie

[vocal lynx]

Luna savings

[glass bay]

[glass bay]

I'm cooked by carlotta

[vocal lynx]

@buoyant hornet

How’s it?

[prime drum]

what does FOS stand for?

[vocal lynx]

Hanying savinhs are going to be hell

[shadow holly]

im getting cooked by the sentry construct drops bro
i got like
3 or 4 total CR drops today
farmed for a few hours

[glass bay]

Im not gonna lie

[vocal lynx]

I hope I will be able to guarantee Wanshis Sig,Hanying

[glass bay]

I got double crit on my first drop

[shadow holly]

xd

i got double crit on the first CD nightmare crownless i rolled

[pallid cypress]

should i invest in rosetta resonances or wait for S rank hanying?

[glass bay]

[shadow holly]

and it was actually fkin good

double crit double atk and liberation bonus

[rocky wedge]

definitely not

[glass bay]

I don't have a peak nightmare piece yet...

And I'm so lazy to farm these

[rocky wedge]

wellll tho maybe if u have SSS empy she could xD

but that is not fact, just theory

[shadow holly]

i basically just ran sentry -> crownless -> thundering
the cycle lined up with respawn timer

[vocal lynx]

This whel 🙄

[shadow holly]

so just rinse and repeat

[glass bay]

Sentry has separate pity

[rocky wedge]

tho empy would be the subdps, bridgette would be there to just hold dv