📨・meta-help

[mint jay]

Oh

[untold drift]

Btw if i lost 50/50 weapon will i still lost again?

[meager iris]

wtf

[somber axle]

Don’t do it they’re gonna give her for free in a few patches

[latent cove]

Because im debating alpha or feral for my first pick

[mint jay]

It's not 50/50 it's actually 80/20

[meager iris]

lamia is eating it with qu

[latent cove]

Free SS rank!

[visual topaz]

My wz wata set

wdym

[mint jay]

It's alpha

[visual topaz]

lb is 1.8M

[latent cove]

Why alpha over feral

[subtle zinc]

do I just do Qu shark Wata TB Lamia Lamia

[mint jay]

Because she's dps, and you can use lux instead of feral

[untold drift]

If it not 100 it alway 50/50 xd

[meager iris]

you actually trolling in wz

[mint jay]

Solo alpha works fine even with feral

[latent cove]

But feral with noctis is goated

Or so I’ve heard

[mint jay]

Noctis is dooky compared to alpha

[deft apex]

on a single boss

[latent cove]

Idk if this is bad but I’ve also spent a ton of resources to get lvl 35 on his weapon

[latent cove]

True but feral will carry

Or at least might

[mint jay]

Alpha dishes out so much more damage than feral

And you need that damage

It's not even argument

[latent cove]

🫡

Roger, I’ll pick alpha for sure

But should I keep noctis for now? Do I have to replace him with liv

Because can’t I just wait till I get feral for free

[glass bay]

I think he means 630ks

[untold drift]

Hmm my guild mate say i should pull for new luna even tho i had lamia they said luna can go with any team

[sand flint]

well if u want to wait, they give out cw for free, u literally get all of it sign an cub

[mint jay]

No, once you get alpha get him OUT

[glass bay]

Only seen 620ks score

[latent cove]

Lmao Alr

For Liv right?

[sand flint]

on ishmael banner tho

[mint jay]

Lux?

[latent cove]

Yes

[mint jay]

No

Just throw him away

You don't need him anymore

Other characters in the team become QTE bots from now on

[latent cove]

I meant replace him for Liv lux?

[mint jay]

No

[latent cove]

💀 until o get feral

[latent cove]

What should my team look like then along with alpha and chrome

[mint jay]

Just get him out of the team

[earnest prism]

How many chapters are in chapter 1

[latent cove]

Okay, for who?

[sand flint]

different elements need different team

[mint jay]

For no one

You have Alpha, Chrome and Lux that's good for now

[somber axle]

Use alpha chrome and liv lux until you can get no.21 and vera/nanami but no need to build chrome/liv they’re just gonna be used for their QTE and that’s it

[sand flint]

depends, tbh tho on the new update it tends to get longer

[latent cove]

Ok!

Thanks guys that settles it

[earnest prism]

When do I unlock the gacha

[odd oriole]

build feral

[vale raft]

No. 21: Feral <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:amplifier:1290613387197415467><:lightning_element:1287636531321765959>

Main Support Sub-DPS Set

Usage

Main Support Sub-DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

General Support Sub-DPS set

Memories

4x Fran
2x Guinevere

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Core Passive

Harmony Recommendation

Guinevere

[sand flint]

the end of chap one i think?

[mint jay]

After basic tutorial

Oh wait, right

[earnest prism]

Oh ok

[visual topaz]

ks?

[earnest prism]

Time to get to work 💔

[mint jay]

Damn, I forgot about that

[latent cove]

Should I buy a budget 5 star weapon for alpha rn

I have enough of the scrap things

[sand flint]

i mean pretty much yeaa??

[mint jay]

Yeah, that's good

[sand flint]

dps u obviously need 6* no questions asked

[latent cove]

Alr sweet

[mint jay]

He can't afford one for now

[latent cove]

Can’t get a 6* yet which is fine because I will get her sig for free

[sand flint]

just saying

[latent cove]

Do I need to have a second team in this game?

[mint jay]

You need 5 actually

[somber axle]

Yes you need a team for every element

[sand flint]

for end game u need all of the elements team

[mint jay]

Wait, soon 6

[sand flint]

either for war zone/ppc

[sand flint]

luna only need fire team so...

her best team

[somber axle]

There’s affix teams too

[sand flint]

epitaph just too broken

[mint jay]

I still don't know how her team works bruh

[deft apex]

630k's
Are you sleep deprived

[sand flint]

forgot about that

[sand flint]

basically other element debuff/buff gonna get converted into her element except physical

[mint jay]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-tweaking-gif-11891071051541943413

[latent cove]

WHAT WHY

[somber axle]

1 for each element

[latent cove]

the seems like a nightmare for f2p

[sand flint]

different elements

[latent cove]

But why

[sand flint]

not really??

[mint jay]

It's not

IT's quite the opposite

[sand flint]

content

like wz and ppc

[latent cove]

Hm maybe there’s more to this game than I thought lol

[somber axle]

Because in the competitive modes different bosses will have different weaknesses and it won’t always be lightning

[latent cove]

Ah

[mint jay]

Since you don't need to score high on War Zone and PPC to get rewards

[sand flint]

that's why, you need to always gacha for the dps

[mint jay]

Dps is life

[sand flint]

support u can build it along the way, but a dps is a must

[latent cove]

Is it easy to max characters as a f2p in this game? Easier compared to others?

[sand flint]

yep

[latent cove]

Oh damn

What’s the weapon max level for example

[somber axle]

45

[mint jay]

Once you hit end game you will have TONS of resources

[sand flint]

45

[somber axle]

Have to wait another week after Luna patch drops for Empy’s gacha skin

[visual topaz]

you meant lamia score?

[mint jay]

Something like that

[latent cove]

Damn is this game that generous or something

[sand flint]

some dps that i recommend you to pull is :

1. Luna oblivion
2. Lucia pyro
3. nana knight (although she is a tank)
4. ishmael

that's pretty much it i think?

[shadow holly]

you shouldn't just pull DPS lol

[languid smelt]

which bianca stig coating is releasing on 1/24?

[somber axle]

Hanying

[shadow holly]

just pull everyone along the way as they come out

[frail hinge]

in alot of ways yep,

[mint jay]

Just pull for whatever new S rank comes out

[shadow holly]

[sand flint]

it's up to you how u spend ur bc so...

[languid smelt]

gamble it

[sand flint]

[mint jay]

Hell, even amplifiers can become DPS

[shadow holly]

yes but if he's new then he wouldn't know how to spend it well

[latent cove]

WHAT THE

[somber axle]

The synchro is very nice to F2P players so you should still be able to get every new S Rank unless they start merging gacha s rank patches

[sand flint]

spender on the other side....

[latent cove]

some random player somehow joined my boss fight

How is that possible

[mint jay]

It's a bot

Players can assign assist characters

Which will invade you battle and help you

[sand flint]

if it's 3x per patch then we obviously gonna catch CN in like 6/7 month

[frail hinge]

it'll take a year

[somber axle]

I don’t think it’s always gonna be 3x we’re just starting off with it since there happened to be 2 consecutive A-ranks

[mint jay]

They said that they plan to finish it in the end of 2025, so I doubt that

[frail hinge]

6/7 months doesnt work

[sand flint]

look at this

[glass bay]

630,000 score

[latent cove]

Where can I change that

[sand flint]

if it's 3x per patch we're gonna catch sooner

[frail hinge]

i feel like they wont ever go beyond 2 s ranks at once, judging by how jp is doing wanshi yata lucia

[sand flint]

mybe they're gonna be reduced to 2 patch

[frail hinge]

maybe even one non free unit per patch?

[sand flint]

3x is too fast

[shadow holly]

jp is actually trolling though

[mint jay]

Idk tbh

[sand flint]

a frame gonna be free up to s3+

[somber axle]

So before synchro JP was on Hanying patch?

[visual topaz]

Should be doable back then when graveyard was ex

[shadow holly]

because next patch they're getting forced into nanami + ish

[visual topaz]

Alpha was 66666

[shadow holly]

2 paid S ranks

[visual topaz]

Shark 56666

[latent cove]

Which of these is fit for CW

[visual topaz]

Huaxu 66666

[mint jay]

Also did you find mentor already?

[somber axle]

Dreading when it’s glb’s turn

[latent cove]

What’s that

[sand flint]

so yeah they probably reduce to 2 patches after this month

[shadow holly]

[glass bay]

u mean 666k score?

[sand flint]

next month already lucia pyro like wtf

[somber axle]

Before synchro what patch was JP on

[visual topaz]

6s each stages

[sand flint]

idk didn't play jp

[mint jay]

Press the Guide button on the left

[latent cove]

Since Liv lux is for QTE only for CW, do I even have to touch her weapon or gear? Don’t I just upgrade the QTE?

[latent cove]

Is it the one on the top middle

In guide*

[glass bay]

because no cutscene bullsht?

[shadow holly]

you have to get her to SS rank
and you need to equip her with proper memories

[sand flint]

well u need memory set for dmg boost, weap mybe helping a bit

[latent cove]

Damn that’s easy

[mint jay]

This one

[vague nebula]

click on all and find the character from the list for filtering

[latent cove]

Sprite? Got it

[vague nebula]

yea sprite

[mint jay]

Then you're goood to go for now

[latent cove]

Thanks

[mint jay]

This one

[sand flint]

after the upd, wz player gonna be mald even more

3x reward

[gritty walrus]

it isn't anymore
but before this patch there was a bug on the PGR's server's side that lied about what bosses were up that I couldn't work around. The leaderboard underneath is correct, just not the bosses 😦

[latent cove]

Yeah I unlocked that

[shadow holly]

the goat

[mint jay]

Find a mentor it will SIGNIFICANTLY speed up level up process

[frail hinge]

oh hey, how about that experiment ya talked about

[digital moat]

ty for your work nova

[latent cove]

I think I have one already

(I’m stupidgame )

[frail hinge]

be a good student ansd do your assignments alr!

[gritty walrus]

didn't get around to it, and even if i kicked it off, it'd take a few hours to run

[sly geyser]

so even freshly lvl83 can become mentors ?

[frail hinge]

oof

[mint jay]

I finally found students who actually do their assignments😭 I'm so proud of them

[sand flint]

i think you can auto graduate right if u already lvl 83 and of course become one

[mint jay]

Yes, it has been always a thing

[somber axle]

Goddamn

[shadow holly]

smh I would've gotten r1 frfr

[mint jay]

whel

[shadow holly]

[sand flint]

you don't need to say that

[shadow holly]

brother why is your bc count so cooked

[shadow holly]

wym

[visual topaz]

I suck

[mint jay]

So, I had this question for a while, do you just ANY team against bosses like sharky and trailblazer?

[visual topaz]

I took +1/+2/+3 on TB

[shadow holly]

ew when are u upgrading your pgr device

[visual topaz]

once i can't load pgr

[gritty walrus]

started it regardless

[mint jay]

Because I find it problematic scoring high on their rotations

[shadow holly]

[visual topaz]

maybe i have device issue for wata kills tho

[sand flint]

[odd oriole]

Aaaaaah! I should have been more patient! I could've gotten in the 10%

[visual topaz]

i have framedrop when quad blazing and stuffs

[sand flint]

time to change then

[shadow holly]

neutral bosses so you use the strongest team at the time
or course according to your invest

like right now generally ice is the best, but for example for me, I have SSS epitaph but SS3 Shukra, fire is better for me on them

my split in the end was like
Shark: L/P/I/F/F
TB: L/I/F/F/F
Lamia: P/P/I/I/I

[shadow holly]

yeah on right ult windows for blaze cancels quite possible

[mint jay]

Yeah, I was filling like I need to use different teams on them

[shadow holly]

especially for very tight stuff like the 9s 3blaze kill on tb/shark or the 7s MD hell

[shadow holly]

it is important to think about smart AP splits, because the one huge mistake a lot of people do is just using one team on each boss lmao

sometimes it is viable but often it is not

mainly because of neutral bosses and such

sometimes it's not even about which team is the strongest, but which one can hit the breakpoints for the kill the fastest

like phys is pretty much the undisputable king for the fastest kills on lower difficulties, just because of how Balter works

even though it's by far not the strongest team overall

[visual topaz]

this week was

Lamia/Wata/Qu more or less same times

[shadow holly]

for max score I had 5 lightning AP, all 5 ds

[sand flint]

btw what's the lpf mean?

[shadow holly]

elements

[frail hinge]

looking forward to a new week of ppc and wz and dear god no more neutral bosses

[visual topaz]

bruh

Elite TB big skem i was losing dmg cuz i ran patton

charlotte was wantap with dv rework

[latent cove]

@mint jay it’s time

[paper bone]

Oh free ap slots

[shadow holly]

had 4 runs on Lamia, and ds knight shark
cancer ass

[visual topaz]

bruh

trs do my ds plz

i got chaos wantap

[shadow holly]

[visual topaz]

then i died of cringe doing elite and knight

[shadow holly]

if u have spare AP sure

[visual topaz]

jk

i got them alrdy

but i suffer from wantap curse

[shadow holly]

[visual topaz]

rip

💀

[shadow holly]

damn someone actually pulling this garbage char

[paper bone]

i forgor no more qu banner

[visual topaz]

watafak

qu gone

?

[paper bone]

Yea

[visual topaz]

naur

[mint jay]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-suffering-from-success-this-so-cute-what-a-lovely-morning-oh-ma-gad-gif-11233135040670052230

[paper bone]

Its just wishing + 70/30

[visual topaz]

how am i supposed to pull her

[remote pier]

https://tenor.com/view/punishing-gray-raven-punishing-grey-raven-pgr-pgr-alpha-crimson-abyss-gif-24402348

[paper bone]

U dont

pull this instead

[sand flint]

only 2, though it was gonna be 3 all the time

[frail hinge]

should i read hero wz going down but legend wz going up to mean that whales are leaing hence more dolphins make it into legend or that the dolphins are leaving but whales remaining

[shadow holly]

it's never stable numbers

[paper bone]

Everyone has kiwi’d

[shadow holly]

it's pretty random due to how sometimes ppl might not have merit to promote

[paper bone]

Ew is piloting all of mangetsu btw

[shadow holly]

no point in reading into it much

[frail hinge]

that's fair

[shadow holly]

just look at total player counts

[visual topaz]

i still have to buy these

and pull skins

and buy dorm

[paper bone]

I love hardcucking the entire lobby by getting top 2 w no merit

[visual topaz]

[deft apex]

just spend x3 more

[visual topaz]

life of Ew is tough

[paper bone]

ew worke as IT wow

[shadow holly]

imagine not having merit tho

[paper bone]

so much money for packs

[paper bone]

yo mb I’ve been camping :caught:

[visual topaz]

[sand flint]

[carmine mesa]

Do loose merit when demoting from Legend, or does it pop demotion protection?

[visual topaz]

you lose your protection to promote to legend

and you get 20 if you're #2 or 25 merit if you're #1 of your hero bracket

[sand flint]

it's an instant demotion from legend huh

[carmine mesa]

I got in to legend last WZ, but no shot at retaining, so back to hero next week, does this mean I need to rebuild merit for legend again?

[visual topaz]

in legend top 3-6 you get 75 merit from demoting

that's what we usually call to yoyo hero legend

or bouncing back

[sand flint]

so basically u need to stay 1 week in hero before getting promoted back huh?

[sand flint]

thanks for the info

[visual topaz]

1 rot not 2 rots

[carmine mesa]

Ah, so I'll be doing the yoyo depending on weekly element and invest, thanks

[visual topaz]

assuming you got #1 in hero while promoting

[sand flint]

owhh oki

[visual topaz]

25 (top 1 hero) +75 (Top 3-6 Legend)

[carmine mesa]

Yeah, it was fire and ice, my two 3S teams.

[visual topaz]

that gives you full shield ready for the new rot

[subtle zinc]

I keep 10sec shark right I dont want to do this for hrs

[visual topaz]

so on the new rot you just have to rank #1 of your bracket again to go to Legend

kek

shark was wantap 10s for me too

[subtle zinc]

i used q

[visual topaz]

9s too pain

[carmine mesa]

Well, some extra points for red USB and vouchers ain't bad

[sand flint]

too much mald for legend

[subtle zinc]

and no way im getting 9 with qu without darwin i think

[visual topaz]

when you see the rewards that puts the F2P to shame tho

550 trade voucher is more than 1/4 of their BP income

[carmine mesa]

Does Luna oblivion really only have one build?

[visual topaz]

should be cleopatra cottie

[sand flint]

i mean yeah pretty much and 3x times too right at least for this upd

[visual topaz]

a F2P that goes bouncing in between should be getting juicy ones too

[frozen creek]

What even is ishmaels role bro

[visual topaz]

from promoting/demoting hero-legend

[carmine mesa]

Old f2p accounts should be able to retain hero, at least until affixes arrive.

[visual topaz]

Mommy

[frozen creek]

[visual topaz]

she can adopt me

[frozen creek]

All I know is she’s void

[mint jay]

I don't think f2ps are hitting hero

[visual topaz]

my alts do sometimes

[sand flint]

can become ampli/tank

[mint jay]

SOMETIMES

[visual topaz]

tho i don't tryhard much

ye hero retain

[sand flint]

depend on team comp

[carmine mesa]

That's why I specified old f2p accounts, you need a wide roster.

[visual topaz]

tho i've never touched promote

not that wide

[sand flint]

if u are missing a tank and u put her she becomes a tank vice versa

[visual topaz]

i'm retaining ice with Empyrea Shukra Qilin

[vague nebula]

i am f2p and i am on hero wz

[mint jay]

For now

[visual topaz]

the true glass ceiling and competition is in legend retain

[sand flint]

they do be hitting hero, even legends after that straight demotion

[visual topaz]

if F2P is good enough it might retain hero and bounce sometimes to legend

[carmine mesa]

How much of a mess is affix gonna cause...

[visual topaz]

worst case is getting below leader

[vague nebula]

globlul dies with affix anyway. still hero wz

[deft apex]

did u kiwi too?
she's observer class, so amp/tank depending on what's missing in the team

[frozen creek]

No I just haven’t been paying attention

[mint jay]

Okay, I phrased it badly, I meant consistantly hitting hero and staying in it for atleast a week

[deft apex]

class ishmael

[vale raft]

Ishmael: Parhelion

Skill - Class Passive (Lv. 18)

Observer

Gain different abilities based on the Observation Chronicle:

• When Tank: Attacks reduce the target's Extra DMG Reduction by 20.0% for 5s.
• When Dark Amplifier: All switched-in members gain an extra 20.0% ATK and 20.0% Elemental DMG Bonus of Ishmael: Parhelion's element for 10s.
• All other Amplifiers: All switched-in members gain an extra 10.0% ATK and 10.0% Elemental DMG Bonus of Ishmael: Parhelion's element for 10s.

[spiral merlin]

Whaduhell I retain flare arfee bracket

[frozen creek]

Why is it dark

[sand flint]

she's best in tank or amp?

[deft apex]

cuz lilith has 20% at base s

[frozen creek]

Is it affix or something

Oh alright

[visual topaz]

nobody malded i guess

[spiral merlin]

Can feel the game dying in real time

[visual topaz]

Mommy

[lusty tendon]

livestream

[sand flint]

EOS soon

[visual topaz]

don't mind my lightning score it was wata heisen

nvm shah score too he s+

[carmine mesa]

@lusty tendon You streaming the end?

[visual topaz]

only 3 SSS phys decent score in this rot

[frozen creek]

when voodoo used to be the worst one to go against

[spiral merlin]

Yeah i didn’t mald either 💀

[frozen creek]

to whatever this is

[lusty tendon]

no i'm really interested to watch the luna livestream from kuro though

[carmine mesa]

Voodoo gets flushed down the toilet, to the sewers where he belongs.

[visual topaz]

she*

[spiral merlin]

Tho I don’t have s+ rose so I’m at a disadvantage there

[carmine mesa]

Oh, right, I keep forgetting Voodoo is a wench

[visual topaz]

Loki is the male tho

[carmine mesa]

So the man is the sane one, what did Kueo mean by this

[visual topaz]

reverse

he is the crazy one

[spiral merlin]

I was gonna say yeah opposite

[visual topaz]

Voodoo is the calm one

sounds like story skipper

[spiral merlin]

We saw more of that in uhh cradle parade I think it was

[frozen creek]

im on 999981 dorm doritos

[visual topaz]

ye

[carmine mesa]

I am thoroughly confused, oh well, I also thought Sextant is a dude, my weeb card should be revoked.

[visual topaz]

bruh

I'm 2/3 gb hits

[carmine mesa]

Did you forget guild battle?

[latent cove]

How do I unlock leader skill

[waxen vine]

yes

[tacit sentinel]

Hey, with selector on luna patch is Scire the smart choice to pick if you don't have her right?

[foggy ridge]

yall think solo feral is better than fire team in lightning wz?

[vague nebula]

[foggy ridge]

i already burnt down the kitchen. whos to stop me burning it down again?

[vague nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[molten chasm]

So I haven’t really played since November in 2022 got back into it. Basically wondering If I should pick crimson abyss Lucia with s rank choice

[visual topaz]

have S rank character then unlock, it in the skill tab

[woven haven]

big no

not crimson abyss nor crimson weave

[molten chasm]

Damn is she no good anymore?

[barren plank]

Would I use SS3 Daemonissa over SS Kaleido in void even if Ish is SS3? I feel like Lilith's buffs would outweigh Ish losing 10% shred

[woven haven]

Abyss has been dead since 2020

[waxen vine]

pick crimson weave

[woven haven]

Weave is literally on the verge of death

[molten chasm]

These are my choices

[barren plank]

Pick either Rosetta or Laurel

[molten chasm]

That’s unfortunate cause I really liked her design even though I couldn’t get her back then

[waxen vine]

no cus laurel is dead long ago and rosseta getting replaced very soon

[woven haven]

its funny because Abyss has been powercrept not once
not twice
but 5 times now

[barren plank]

There's no one better tho

[woven haven]

still both better choices than crimson abyss

[waxen vine]

pick crimson abyss if you really like her dont care about meta the meta gets changed alot

[molten chasm]

Damn so do I have no good choices? Is luminance still good?

[woven haven]

No

[barren plank]

No and her replacement is free for u to get

[molten chasm]

It’s a whole new world out here

[woven haven]

only relevant unit in the selector is rosetta and she's powercrept in 6 weeks

[vague nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/siutbot-angry-wojak-gif-22173359

[waxen vine]

pick crimson abyss if you like her

[woven haven]

thanks to acceleration

[woven haven]

dude enough

stop trying to push for that

[waxen vine]

he said he likes her so i am promoting it

[barren plank]

I would say Laurel is a decent option for dark till u get Lilith

[molten chasm]

Will probably go for her. Kinda excited to pick the story back up. I was at ch 11

[woven haven]

yes but this isn't the channel to do so

[barren plank]

No she isn't good

[woven haven]

just literally pick laurel or rosetta

[waxen vine]

well there is no better option in that banner so pick what he likes

[woven haven]

yes there is

[waxen vine]

nice have fun

[vague nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/siutbot-angry-wojak-gif-22173359

[woven haven]

Alisa can cover phys dmg better than Crimson Abyss

[barren plank]

Fr tho

[woven haven]

at this point tbh

and Alisa is free farmable

Just get Rosetta or Luna

[molten chasm]

Really trying to just get my bearing back. Is it worth it to even start the event thing going on? Assuming it’s a new story ch.

[woven haven]

Always the problem with crimson abyss fans

they never listen and just wanna yap about her

[woven haven]

yeah but its ending in like this week and then there's 3 new chapters coming out next week

patch acceleration is about to literally kill every account

[tacit sentinel]

lol we still doomposting?

[vague nebula]

gonna be fun ride

[waxen vine]

yeah i cant believe people still doing that

[rocky wedge]

[tacit sentinel]

every time i join this discord there's someone doomposting, don't you all get tired of yapping?

[quartz dove]

Are we winning chat ?

[woven haven]

do you really expect to learn a new unit every 2 weeks

and build them to completion

[tacit sentinel]

i don't expect nothing, this is a freaking game, i just wanna enjoy the ride and play

[waxen vine]

no need to rush to learn them or build the just get a copy or two and take your time

[tacit sentinel]

if you take it that seriously, its your problem

[woven haven]

then you're in the wrong channel for that

[waxen vine]

^ facts

[random cobalt]

Lmao what is this

[barren plank]

#💬・pgr-general Is right there for y'all

[vague nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/siutbot-angry-wojak-gif-22173359

[spiral merlin]

Correction this is a gacha game

[random cobalt]

I didn't knew there were people so brainrotted

[molten chasm]

Probably gonna get rosetta since the only defense I have is kamui bastion and tenebrion and A2.

[barren plank]

I thought u died lol

[quartz dove]

[waxen vine]

nice you have nier collab

[woven haven]

tanks aren’t for defense

they’re res/def shredders

[random cobalt]

I was in wuwa
Might kiwi pgr soon

[barren plank]

Ok then u can pair her with Entropy if u happen to have him, and then get Echo from the dorm

[woven haven]

That’s why tanks are highly necessary

[vague nebula]

[molten chasm]

I do indeed have entropy

[barren plank]

Fair Im also gonna leave by Hanying
The sync and now Selena right after Lilith have been the last straw for me

[vague nebula]

u r all set then

[hidden nimbus]

[barren plank]

Sounds good

When Hanying Solacetune comes out in late Feb you can swap Rosetta out for her

[vague nebula]

just listen to aethervoid

[barren plank]

Aether is never wrong

[waxen vine]

so quick question when exactly we can expect dmc collab?

[hidden nimbus]

[barren plank]

We dunno any date but prolly in first half of 2026

[woven haven]

2026 or so maybe
1-3 A ranks

[quartz dove]

No

[normal bluff]

Probably gonna have Dante and Vergil 100%

[waxen vine]

nice so not that far

[quartz dove]

It has to be this year

[normal bluff]

Nero is a bit of a stretch

[barren plank]

With how greedy Kuro is being I feel like they could make them S-ranks ngl

[woven haven]

uniframes

[waxen vine]

vergil s rank gonna be good

[barren plank]

LMAO that would be fcking hilarious ngl

[hidden nimbus]

[visual topaz]

lmao

uniframes

less rights

[normal bluff]

If they could be absolutely busted at uniframes I won't mind ngl-

[woven haven]

99% chance not S rank based off the head dev’s promises

[normal bluff]

Makes them have more opportunities for cool movesets

[hidden nimbus]

[normal bluff]

Plus by the time they're out isn't the uniframe debuff already gone

[barren plank]

Oh btw Aether
Should I use SS3 Daemonissa over SS Kaleido/other amp in void even if Ish is SS3? I feel like Lilith's buffs would outweigh Ish losing 10% shred

[waxen vine]

yeah i wont mind if they are a rank either but if they become s rank that would bea bonus

[visual topaz]

prolly not

[woven haven]

I think you would prefer A because they’d be cheaper to rank up

[woven haven]

10% shred > 10% dmg bonus

[molten chasm]

Is there a character guide for what skills to upgrade for each character? Like which ones are higher priority?

[zenith thorn]

none lol

there's no priority,get them all

[barren plank]

Everything at once unless you are REALLY short on respurces

[zenith thorn]

just start one by one on either one
as long you get them all

[waxen vine]

cool

[zenith thorn]

the least priority would probably be leader class ig

[woven haven]

leader is just 1 lvl

[zenith thorn]

oh

that i forgot

[sand flint]

[woven haven]

you can just ignore class on attackers and supports till later than raise attacker class after

too much edb everywhere

[quartz dove]

Wao global livestream soon

[vague nebula]

when?

[carmine mesa]

Two days from now, if memory serves

[vague nebula]

[sand flint]

hm..

[vague nebula]

I have exam

[quartz dove]

Dev listen moment incoming

[spiral merlin]

2am utc

[vague nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/devs-listened-wuwa-genshin-could-never-gif-6459591100973185639

[spiral merlin]

As usual -fuck the europeans

[carmine mesa]

It's gonna be a canned stream anyway, dubbed version of the JP strm

[deft apex]

bruh

i love watching 2nd hand stream

[vague nebula]

I will watch it as long as its not en va
they r very emotionless when it comes to this game

[shadow mica]

"Stream". It's just a video

[quartz dove]

[carmine mesa]

Hey, at least well get a code with 250 yellow cards and a serum bottle

[woven haven]

it’s a glorified premiere video celebrating the sync they planned since nov

2 months plan in the making

[sand flint]

idk why my mind read that as gooniefied

[quartz dove]

Surely they will announce the insane pack change

[sand flint]

time to sleep then

[spiral merlin]

You're finished

[sand flint]

[barren plank]

Wait what video

[carmine mesa]

Luna stream on the 8th, its most likely the JP stream with EN dub and some corporate gassing about the synch plan

[barren plank]

Why so late? Usually it's a week before

Whatever not like they even have done a livestream recently

[quartz dove]

Why they need to be ontime ?

[indigo rampart]

Oh wanshi dreamer is free?

[sand flint]

tbh, didn't memorize the name

[barren plank]

Yes but he needs his sig cub and SSS

[sand flint]

yep 1 copy dorm

[indigo rampart]

[sand flint]

3S not SS3?

[barren plank]

Yep SSS

[sand flint]

dem

[bitter atlas]

For weapon couon and cub exchange, I am hoping for some second opinion base on priority to have:

Here are my possible choices
1.Managarm- Feral
2.Metis - Lamia wep
3.Pheonix- garnet wep

For cub
1.Cetus - Lamia
2.Rainbow- Kaleido
3.Moonhopper- Scire
4.Shadow wing- Watanabe fire
5.Dawn Chorus- Echo
Thank you

[indigo rampart]

Well I needed a new qte tank for qu anywyas

[sand flint]

just say who's cub bro, didn't remember the specific name

and weapon too

[carmine mesa]

Free from the dorm shop, and while he doesn't "need" sig, cub and 3S, being a free unit, he needs a lot of help to make an impact.

[barren plank]

Are u F2P or spender, and will you continue to spend with sync too if you do use money
And can u drop ur Huaxu as well

[barren plank]

Sounds like a you problem

[sand flint]

[carmine mesa]

Since the next patch is a triple, you can use it to get Luna's sig and cub, and just sit on your BC.

[barren plank]

Not so fast

We're missing some info

[sand flint]

what info are we missing??

[indigo rampart]

Does hanying replace rosseta? (Idk if she has better shred)

[sand flint]

100%

[indigo rampart]

[sand flint]

the bewb got me okki

like ayla one

[bitter atlas]

Also, I am somewat a spender ^^ but it seems i got my answer~ Luna it is ❤️

[sand flint]

[carmine mesa]

If your Rosetta has sig +8% shred, she still has use in physical ppc

[bitter atlas]

Thank you all! i am glad it updates to luna banner once she is released

[barren plank]

Wait tho depending on how much BC u have it may just be more worth it for u to get Metis

[indigo rampart]

Gonna replace pulse for bridget, cause yes.

[indigo rampart]

I see

[bitter atlas]

Since i just came back i do have 10k bc right now, My pull count for limited char is on 40 though.

[barren plank]

And I assume no weapon or cub tickets?

Or do u happen to have some

And you will buy the BP next patch yes?

Or will u skip out cause sync

[bitter atlas]

Yes that is correct, I have no weapon nor cub tickets at the moment. I may not buy the BP for the next patch but that may be depending.

But i am leaning to not buying it

[barren plank]

uuuuuhm yea I think you can get Luna sig normally and then get her cub from the seelctor

[bitter atlas]

Got it!

Thank you so much ^^

[barren plank]

But yea see how your pulls go first, if u get lucky go for Metis, if u get offrated get Luna's sig

[shrewd cosmos]

Who should I select for the beginner S rank banner?

[barren plank]

Do u have Epitaph

[shrewd cosmos]

complete beginner

[barren plank]

Ok then save it for him for when he gets added next patch

[shrewd cosmos]

k

[copper fox]

is it safe to invest in lamia like hypertune, roll memory resonances and stuff? Shes my dark team's lifeline 😭

[barren plank]

Ofc

[copper fox]

okay cuz i got bianca in the wishing target and jsut saw the new selena frame and was sad cuz i'll have to replace bianca 😭

[barren plank]

Rip

[glass bay]

Wishing target

....

[rose yew]

she's like a year away

[glass bay]

Omg mikulao

[dusky quarry]

6 months 🤓

[final sky]

Did they remove ayla's ice tank set for brilliance?

[final sky]

U dont have to play meta teams if you dont want to

[pseudo jasper]

alright thanks for the information

also nice, this week kr already got emperor

[foggy ridge]

u kinda have to respect meta if you wanna get key resources

if ur f2p anyways and want the most out of pgr

[mint jay]

The only game mode where you actually have to respect meta is norman tbh

[foggy ridge]

what about ppc?

[wispy robin]

damn this was a nice ice onetap, can't remember last time everything went so perfect

[rose yew]

soon to be score based reward
for exppc anyway

I'll still gatekeep advanced tho

[foggy ridge]

i mean u still gotta get high scores for more skulls no?

[mint jay]

You miss like 30 bc if you don't hit 1.5 mil so it's not that important

[rose yew]

only in onslaught when it comes

[mint jay]

The difference is not critical, especially if you're casual

[rose yew]

other than that as long as you get 1.8mil in exppc everytime you're good

[wispy robin]

gl with that without having full meta teams

[mint jay]

Casuals don't need that, they be pulling for SSS BRS

[quartz dove]

The main idea is to get skulls not bc

Free dupe is always nice regardless who u are

[glass bay]

Not for u

Obesewhel

[rose yew]

if only i can get a dupe of Lucia KFC memory

just one will do

[quartz dove]

It still is wdym u can have exact amount of shard for sss3

[foggy ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/swimming-our-living-world-floating-in-water-whale-netflix-gif-7663646817855106497

[dapper skiff]

So

Maintenance is Friday?

[deft apex]

Patch is on friday so yea?

Unless it started on the day prior for u or something

[barren plank]

You can S+ everyone BC is literally given for free

[lunar lava]

omaigod best game best company kuro

[deft apex]

Yea just pull 10 copies in 10 pulls

Its literally free

[barren plank]

https://tenor.com/view/devs-listened-wuwa-genshin-could-never-gif-6459591100973185639

[wispy robin]

https://x.com/punigray_staff/status/1875739025421824044 wait a sec i only now seen this

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#パニグレ

Twitter · Jan 5, 2025, 3:00 AM

[deft apex]

Hi

Triplet patch jumpscare

[wispy robin]

so they had a perfect opportunity to avoid double s rank patches and yet threy still decided to go x3 anyway???

holy fcking retrds i swear

[lunar lava]

https://tenor.com/view/caseylina-scare-scared-caseylina-scared-twitch-gif-26326409

[glass bay]

Man I dno if I can finish the BP before patch end

[wispy robin]

like literally what for they could easily catch up in half year with x2 patches only what is this rush for here ??????

[lunar lava]

Nah man this company needs some molotov coctails thrown through their windows

[lunar lava]

Again. The more you look into this, it keeps on getting worse.

[deft apex]

It cuz we're in a rush!!!

[lunar lava]

there is no end to this synchro rabbit hole xd

[deft apex]

You got to catch up to tw before tw catches up to cn!

[wispy robin]

the only explanation i can find is that they only came up with x3 formula so far and jp just copied it cause x2 one still not ready
watch tw also going x3 next patch lmfao

[turbid bridge]

Don’t forget Wanshi’s banner only drops on 20th Jan, a week after patch starts so you can’t pull a first copy anywhere and the only available sources are dorm and voucher shop

[lunar lava]

so they choose the lazy route. Typical

[wispy robin]

who tf would still pull for wanshi in this fcking economy

[lunar lava]

the new generation of whales coming to PGR for the synchro

the imaginary whales

[turbid bridge]

People who were still expecting to get SSS for free unit I guess

[wispy robin]

they really had to put nanami and ish together no matter what

[deft apex]

Imaginary money tree

[wispy robin]

who is even going to be the main page char literally both of them are hype

[lunar lava]

oh thats another good point

so much for better gaming experience.

[brazen spire]

Not wanshi that's for sure

[lunar lava]

[brazen spire]

It's poster girl's patch with wanshi and yata as passengers

[lunar lava]

Things like this is why I think global needs to EOS for Kuro to finally listen

[quartz dove]

So negative

[random cobalt]

I don't know Japanese which characters are these

[quartz dove]

Are global winning ?

[barren plank]

Huh what does it say

[random cobalt]

For sure, Kuro generous indie company

[wispy robin]

ppl expected pgr to swim in wuwa money but instead wuwa drained the last money from pgr lefting a single intern kun with negative iq handling everything

[deft apex]

Lucia

Whoops i mean ishmael

[lunar lava]

Damn never seen Kimika Pop off like this

[wispy robin]

yea what about nanami ish tho

[turbid bridge]

Combined patch for Wanshi, Lucia and Yata

[glass bay]

Just enough to prevent eos

[deft apex]

Ish cuz newest s rank should take priority i think

[barren plank]

Literally why

Yea they're just retarted nvm

[subtle zinc]

so we would get that after Luna patch in NA global ?

[quartz dove]

Ofc jenius

[barren plank]

Idk

[quartz dove]

[subtle zinc]

assume they keep the grouped patches consistent even if they are different start times

[stray siren]

I don't think so, unless Kuro wants to screw us

[lunar lava]

I like to think that this exploitation and scam would receive the appropriate reaction from the playerbase.

[brazen spire]

Depends the only reason they combined wansi with lucia is cause jp is at hanying we will see after test subject kr patch ends

[subtle zinc]

ohhh I see

[wispy robin]

man coming after godtier rinascita to this is just so sad
they clearly stopped giving any damn about this game anymore

[lunar lava]

But after looking through reddit, twitter, facebook and youtube comments; I'm starting to think that people also dont care much about the synchro

[lunar lava]

its truly very unfortunate

[glass bay]

Lorian Just here to laugh at us

[quartz dove]

And why u think they wouldnt screw with us ?

[glass bay]

[stray siren]

On fb they celebrate it, but fb is like consulting my grandfather for an opinion

[quartz dove]

[turbid bridge]

Screw triple patch we going quadruple Hanying Wanshi Lucia Yata for global after Luna patch

[stray siren]

Because I trust that Kuro still loves us

[brazen spire]

That's cause majority of the playerbasr just play the game as is and don't interact with the community

[carmine mesa]

Feb 5th ends first synchro patch for KR, so we'll know how a deep the rabbit hole goes a week or so prior.

[lunar lava]

or read patch notes and apply critical thinking/common sense

[wispy robin]

jp translation was already pretty questionable before this now they are going to ruin the one story i was waiting the most

[glass bay]

What percentage of playerbase is celica class enjoyer

[lunar lava]

Im more surprised that hardly anyone in KR quit

yet

[carmine mesa]

WZ numbers the same?

[dusky quarry]

Wait but Hanying?

[glass bay]

What % of playerbase is meta enjoyer tbh

[lunar lava]

apparently so. At least thats what huxu man said like 2 weeks ago. Maybe results different now

[glass bay]

Coz if majority don't care about leaderboard then...

[hasty spear]

disproportionately small amount

even less now lol

[lunar lava]

Loona is alive

[hasty spear]

that's all from me folks, cya next year

[turbid bridge]

JP current patch is Hanying already

[lunar lava]

if not eos that is

[quartz dove]

All bark and no bite expected from sunk cost gacha gamer

[glass bay]

[glass bay]

Haven't u kiwi

[lunar lava]

you guys need a 3 day internet blackout. To truly appreciate how good it feels to let it go

[hasty spear]

but percentage of player base going for meta has always been small lol, it's just even smaller now considering so many of the relevant top players are gone

[quartz dove]

I have yea im here for the trainswreck

[distant wren]

The majority is the people logging in just to do dailies, maybe even seasonal players who play the game on and off
So they don't even care, sadly

[glass bay]

Depends on what % of total spend this meta group is

[distant wren]

All they see is "hell yes we're catching up to the hype"

[stray siren]

I don't trust WZ's numbers, because they can go up. That is, players who were in low strata can go up and keep the numbers the same.

I would like to see the PPC numbers, that's where you can see when there are more or less people playing. But PPC Huaxu is not working

[lunar lava]

at the end of the day Kuro should have the accurate data on that.

[distant wren]

Though obviously the majority is also not spenders

[carmine mesa]

Most f2p live service games are carried by a small population of whales, while high profile whales are quitting, I know two whels and a dolphin that will just keep on playing and spend the same, just buy more BP and MPA instead of cleaning the shop or buying some decent "value" packs.

[lunar lava]

imagine if Novastrike decided to implement live player count. There would be mass panic xd

[distant wren]

But i think we know by now that kuro was ready to lose a decent amount of spenders for this

[glass bay]

80% of urbancohort quit or go f2p

That's like 30% of EU omegawhel population or something

[carmine mesa]

Urbanchort, is that a whel guild?

[glass bay]

Not anymore

@visual topaz what are we now

[quartz dove]

Its fine surely it wont eos

[barren plank]

EuS

[distant wren]

Surely

[quartz dove]

The twitter and fb group ready to support kuro

[wispy robin]

https://x.com/meltH01/status/1875761571026395443 you know it's over when even the majority of jp are getting mad

アゲハ (@meltH01) on X

@punigray_staff 流石に凄くイラッて来た…KUROにここまで怒りを感じたのは初めて…。
初めての試みにいきなり3ver同時は容量も、時間も、お金も、心の余裕も無い！本当にせめて初回だけでも2つだけにして欲しかった。　
なにより、予定を知らせるのが遅すぎる!
ましてや…3つ同時ならもっと早くだしてよ。

Twitter · Jan 5, 2025, 4:29 AM

[quartz dove]

Jp whel mad ?

[stray siren]

That's why PPC numbers are more reliable, this is where the number of active players is clearly visible. See for example the number of players during Alpha patches and then the subsequent ones.

[lunar lava]

Honestly Im not sure they do. Theres a famous line I learned from a movie like this. People at the top are asleep on the wheel

[quartz dove]

Yeah that situation isnt rare

Especially with company nowday

[lunar lava]

this is the first time im seeing a JP outcry

[quartz dove]

Being out of touch is new normal

[lunar lava]

but they arent out of touch with WuWa at all

so like whats their excuse with PGR other than "They simply dont give a fck"

[stuck sphinx]

Yet

[quartz dove]

For now

[stuck sphinx]

Day 1 they already copy genshit levelling system

[lunar lava]

Exactly. They will do the same with WuWa given enough time

disgusting mentality

[wispy robin]

they were out of touch with wuwa from the start though
2.0 is literal miracle i still can't believe they actually managed to do it

[stray siren]

I go to the original post and the first thing there is a kurod*ckrider commenting in English lmao

[stuck sphinx]

Ratio this man

[quartz dove]

Kuro is now mini hoyo

[lunar lava]

I really think they overworking their Devs. Like ik this is conspiracy but Im confident that Kuro employees arent happy either

[quartz dove]

They have the 2 winning factor
Sunk cost whel and d1ck rider

[carmine mesa]

Corporations gonna Corpo, water is wet, fire is hot, news at 22:00.

[quartz dove]

Last time i heard it was game studio but ok

[carmine mesa]

I guess Kuro writers naming the in game evil Corpo Kurono was a hint

[wispy robin]

looking at just how much money they must have spent onto 2.0 and said they are going to do it every 6 months now we better completely forget about any wuwa money that could have possibly go into pgr now

[stuck sphinx]

What did they even do for 2.0

[quartz dove]

It was never gonna go to pgr

[wispy robin]

literal new game

[quartz dove]

What kind of delusional idea u think it will ever go to pgr

[carmine mesa]

Wish I knew a gaming accountant or COO, some one to pick his brain about how much development costs.

[lunar lava]

oh ye he was here

@frail hinge get your ass over here you kuro synchro liker

[frail hinge]

??

[stuck sphinx]

[barren plank]

What's JP reaction to all this

[quartz dove]

Looking at ther wheling behaviour probably just gonna whel anyway

[stuck sphinx]

https://x.com/melth01/status/1875761571026395443?s=46

アゲハ (@meltH01) on X

@punigray_staff 流石に凄くイラッて来た…KUROにここまで怒りを感じたのは初めて…。
初めての試みにいきなり3ver同時は容量も、時間も、お金も、心の余裕も無い！本当にせめて初回だけでも2つだけにして欲しかった。　
なにより、予定を知らせるのが遅すぎる!
ましてや…3つ同時ならもっと早くだしてよ。

Twitter · Jan 5, 2025, 4:29 AM

[wispy robin]

kusa

[stuck sphinx]

You can read the thread

[visual wind]

so base on JP we gonna have something like
Teddy luna bridget
Hanying
Wanshi lucia yata
Nanami
Ish Lilith

[wispy robin]

how about hanying wanshi lucia yata

[visual wind]

Nope cuz we go eos

[cold walrus]

Kuro are crazys what do they cook for jp

[barren plank]

Lmao

[stuck sphinx]

Hanying wanshit lucia
Yata
Nanami ishy lillith selena

[frail hinge]

What are telos orbs in luna's kit

[quartz dove]

Hanying wanshi lucia is gonna be hillarious

[barren plank]

@hasty sphinx JP got sync announced
They're doing Wanshi Pyroath Yata in one patch, PGR is done for

[lunar lava]

lemme ping our residential korean player too @hasty sphinx

[quartz dove]

Who the hell is that dude

[frail hinge]

Anyone

[wispy robin]

surely it's all according to plan because they are going to make ish free

[river wolf]

??????

[barren plank]

Mb I pinged the wrong person

[river wolf]

Lol

[stuck sphinx]

Tea?

[quartz dove]

[barren plank]

They were right under

[lunar lava]

its HoneyT

[stuck sphinx]

Then they nerf her bc she’s free

The usual

[earnest prism]

When should I start paying attention to the story?

[frail hinge]

Does anyone know what telos orbs are for Luna oblivion

[barren plank]

Chapter 9

[lunar lava]

Never cuz EOS

[barren plank]

Ik i accidentally clicked the person right under

[frail hinge]

Chapter 8-9 but do lightly skim over the pain plot points of the first

[earnest prism]

Are the chapters before just boring

[deft apex]

Hold ult orbs

[frail hinge]

And messily written

[barren plank]

They just introduce the people and setting pretty much they're not too important
And they're hard to follow

[frail hinge]

Thank you

[wispy robin]

wait actually the nanami selector banner is permanent anyway so they are probably going to bet on that
as in you don't need to pull nanami cause you can pull her later

[earnest prism]

Okay thanks

[deft apex]

Hows is that a good thing

[earnest prism]

Is the gacha the R&D button

[deft apex]

[barren plank]

Ye but don't pull anything rn

[wispy robin]

well that's going to be their excuse for sure

[stuck sphinx]

Lmfao brick ass

[deft apex]

Wtf

[quartz dove]

Are u winning ?

[stuck sphinx]

Useless ass orbs

[quartz dove]

[lethal sun]

EOS orbs

[barren plank]

https://tenor.com/view/kiana-kaslana-honkai-smug-tuna-smug-honkai-impact3-smirk-gif-16372699

[wispy robin]

at this point i hope they will do nana ish lilith as well so just end this all already

[visual wind]

I just realised we need 4 synch patches to reach CN

[wispy robin]

surely the next cn patch won't be s rank

[quartz dove]

Surely

[stuck sphinx]

[visual wind]

It's selena S rank

[barren plank]

Istg watch, they're gonna make a new Alpha after Selena to make ppl forget ab the sync

[visual wind]

ish lilith sel wow that gonna be a blast innit

[nova forum]

Another free S rank from dorm

[stuck sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/gfl2-suomi-ew-gif-5894766442924841570

[quartz dove]

That only work for f2p

[nova forum]

[wispy robin]

surely they will double f2p income to match the s rank only patches

[nova forum]

When was S wanshi released?

[frail hinge]

@barren plank which units absolutely needed ss3 again

[barren plank]

Solacetune Pyroath Ishmael

[distant wren]

in cn? 30/5/2024

[quartz dove]

Lemme inhale that crack aswell

[stuck sphinx]

They will add 3 instances of Immunopolis to compensate

[frail hinge]

Ishmael's kit is way too much reading so I gave up on that hence I take you at your word

Hanying for sure

Lucia was just a signature energy buff and damage increase no?

That and her qte

[barren plank]

That energy is huge it's what allows her to 5ult rot

[quartz dove]

On the bright side

[stuck sphinx]

Eos

[barren plank]

Ishmael's SS3 let's her do 4 rots instead of 2

[frail hinge]

So.. the 3 or 4 ult rot isn't good enough or.. does she deal low dmg or smth

[quartz dove]

If u somehow can punchtrough this as spender legend retain most likely will be free for u

[barren plank]

She doesn't have enough energy without it

[unkempt grotto]

God I love luna

[barren plank]

Meaning she can't even cast it

[frail hinge]

To do even the 3 ult rots?

[deft apex]

I love selena

[frail hinge]

You're her apple
I'm Her chakram
We are tied

[wispy robin]

must be so fun sitting solo in legend competing with ss accounts

[barren plank]

Oh wait I misread that

[unkempt grotto]

Let's hug

[barren plank]

Slow

[frail hinge]

And preach of luna as we do

[quartz dove]

People enjoy tyrrany and slavery it just how it is welcome to humanity in general son

[tight geode]

@quartz dove as the top F2P player in the server how do you feel about the upcoming changes?

[barren plank]

Why are all the Ascendants the most orb hungry mfers

Except Roland ig

[quartz dove]

🥝

[barren plank]

I still dont know how to play him

[stuck sphinx]

🥝

[deft apex]

Oh you play roland like this
🟡🟡🟡🟡🟡🟡🟡🟡🟡

[frail hinge]

So that's
Luna
Nanaknight
Lilith

On the ss0 side

On the other end we have

Hanying
Lucia
Ishmael

On the ss3 side

With wanshi to the side

[barren plank]

Put Lilith alongside Wanshi cuz they need SSS

[frail hinge]

Lilith does not need sss cmon

[barren plank]

Ye she does it doubles her heal buff

[frail hinge]

She outdamages lamia ar equal incest what are ya on about

[deft apex]

Sss lilith is good but it doesnt seem that crazy

[barren plank]

And is huge for her damage

[frail hinge]

That what all sss amps do?!

[barren plank]

No?

[frail hinge]

Lilith isn't like selena who's healthy is garbage on a normal basis

[barren plank]

Their class passive is doubled

Her SSS straight up doubles her heal

Also that buff to her ult2 is insanity

[lunar lava]

Oh no. Synchro defenders running to use this as their newest excuse

[frail hinge]

But that's damage (;;)
Are higher ranks not meant to provide big pp dmg (;;)

It'd be a different case if she was weak at ss

[wispy robin]

you can forget about any ss3s anyway at this point
i probably going to get ish from standard reset to be able to afford at least some sigs

[barren plank]

She kinda is

Lilith > Lamia at same invest sure

But the difference is very noticeably smaller

Compared to other instances

[frail hinge]

And that's not enough

[frail hinge]

Do we even have another amp to compare

[barren plank]

No she's the first
But I mean when a dps of another role comes out

[frail hinge]

You're comparing the tanks attackers and whatever the heck ishmael is to the amp

[barren plank]

Eg Nanaknight vs CW, Ish vs Luna

[barren plank]

Lilith doesn't do less damage cuz she's an amp, she does less damage cuz she's free

[wispy robin]

also wonder if i should forgo lilith ranks and go all in into alisa 3s since glacio is basically strongest team now while dark still ded

[frail hinge]

Wouldn't lilith be the void amp tho since her amp class is stronger?

[barren plank]

No Ishmael specifically prevents that

At SS3 her dark shred is still 25% while everyone else is 35%

[frail hinge]

But you admit that lilith ss is still good

Sss and above is just damage for the whales

Sss has always been damage for the whales

What exactly about this do ya want to change

[frail hinge]

Ou yea her dark tank equivalent would be based of Karen

Hence she'd suck

Karen dragging down the team even more ahah

[barren plank]

If ur Ish is SS then yea Lilith is better

[frail hinge]

So we've got
3 ss0s
3 ss3s

One outlier

Does this really count as every unit needing ss3 to function (;_;)

[barren plank]

It's alright but SSS too big to ignore
The difference between free and gacha units tho is that since their ranks are all farmable everyone will have it
So you will be at a big disadvanatge

[wispy robin]

though looking at their affix leap longevity history i don't have much hopes in alisa ngl....
daren died in 5 patches batler in 4 patches

[barren plank]

I still would prolly prefer Wanshi SSS over Lilith but it's still massive for her

[frail hinge]

Sss damage has always been "too big to ignore"

No one that doesn't go to sss before is going to sss now because the damage increase Is a bigger increase than the last damage increase

[barren plank]

The difference is
The ranks are farmable
And suddenly the SSS becomes open to a lot more people

[frail hinge]

And if "everyone will have it"

Then why not you

Since everyone has them at sss cause its free

Why not also do that or smth

[zenith kernel]

My friends might be genuinely stupid
Just woke up to the dumbest argument

[barren plank]

Cause Im poor

[frail hinge]

But somehow you're the one person that's left out of the loop

[frail hinge]

So it comes down to whales vs folphins again no?

That's hownits always been no?

[barren plank]

Actually voucher units are inaccesible to most F2Ps so thanks for cathcing me there
But there a lot more low spenders then just whales

[deft apex]

Pov: next amp is also glaciation

[frail hinge]

You're not f2p tho right

[lunar lava]

No you're not. Also if you argue with Timiboy you are legit gonna lose ur braincells faster than Europeons on a Football night

[barren plank]

I am now w sync

[zenith kernel]

They said the syncro isn’t even the main reason they are leaving, but that the game mechanics for gen 2 onwards isn’t as fun as gen 1
That they see it as just an ult smashing combat mechanic
My question is, what did they expect after maxing out their characters to SS3 onwards

[frail hinge]

Oh yea you're a glb player

[zenith kernel]

🐶💔

[barren plank]

Very few people will SSS all characters cuz thaat's only doable for whales
But there's a lot more that buy only BP+Monthly
Therefore a lot more people are going to have Wanshi and Lilith SSS

And if u can't afford it welp you're out of luck

[frail hinge]

I don't like this argument. You should be able to max invest and still have fun with the characters

Getting a worse gameplay experwinc3 because you played the game in a certain way isn't a good thing

And I can't rly comment on how fun sss+ gameplay is cause I just have never experienced it nor ever will

[barren plank]

If I wasn't poor I would prolly be spending 3x

[nova forum]

So next patch is potentially another free dorm unit

[barren plank]

Lilith already was that in a sense

[dusky quarry]

Max incest

[zenith kernel]

Max incest

[frail hinge]

But the game has always been like this

Is it the accesiibilty to more people thag you dislike?

Cause the people it's becoming more accessible to would disagree

[frail hinge]

DAMNIT

[wispy robin]

@raw swift u have been summoned

[lunar lava]

Man. More than the synchro, I hate the people that are enabling the arguement "Just spend x3 and stop crying whale"

ur not poor for not spending x3. Ur actually blessed to finally be given a chance to let go :v

[barren plank]

No it's the fact they market the units as free, make them require SSS, and then lock the means to SSS em completely relegated to paid BP of which is inaccessible to F2P

[frail hinge]

If the sss is cheaper and more people are getting it then you should be japly

Except you can't for any number of reasons

Fine

But you're acting like sss is this weird new thing

So the only angle I can understand this from is that you dislike that the units are more accessible to the majority but you unfortunately dont fall into that group

[barren plank]

It is a weird new thing

Sure u had stuff like SSS amp class bonuses starting w Empyrea and Cap were big, but for the most part the unit was usable without it
Now they aren't

[frail hinge]

To the avg f2p the units are usable as they are

Lilith ss0 is outdamaging lamia

Wanshi ss0 is goof and ss3 isn't insanely hard to get

Alisa sucks but when does she not

Ayla is useful

All your arguments only ever apply to a spender cause to a f2p these unrd are usable as they are

[barren plank]

Which exactly why F2Ps cant compete in this game

[frail hinge]

You keep throwing usable around and irs just damage as if damage hasn't been an sss thing

[wispy robin]

bruh why u spamming these walls of text this aint reddit

[lunar lava]

hey you wanna know whats worse than the "availability of SSS chars" @frail hinge and @barren plank? Its literally designing gameplay around specific ranks intentionally.