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19sec, deploying 4dv for hanying
2fred for balter
Before the bug fix it was 18sec to do
However super hard to execute
.
But I assume only 2 people in global would care this
because majority of glb aint whale nor willing to mald
Else unrelated.
Fire or Dark better on TrailBlazer?
I use both
distribute fire and dark ap

help i legit forgot how many shards we get for s rank dupes in banners
Okay then on Hell trailblazer which is better?
have you tried comparing clear times by using both? because it depends on your invest
30 for s-ranks
Nevermind i will just use fire, i dont have time to redo this
She'll be in Voucher shop next patch
And should have 60 discounted shards to buy in Feb
great so ill just get one copy of her from selector and get sss from there
waiting for more Selena videos 
#📨・meta-help message
saw this already?
Yeah!
also setsu sent some bili links
she looks great, almost like her range is hugee but maybe thats just how all the new atk work
I still don't know how kuro is gonna adjust her skill chains
I heard cn players find her janky
isnt every character either too strong or weak when they are in beta hehe
I don't even think it's about dmg
because she's quite the improvement for phy
A ball knower
does the amount reset every month? and if so is the discounted price will be there too?
discount reset monthly
technically, you can buy those shards as much as you want
but who's mad enough to buy the non-discounted ones
super whales
alisa, kaleido, empy(next patch)
wanshi lucid dream, lilith
priority is still lucid dream and lilith
a good stopping for f2p is what for amplifier? like ss3?
SSS
sss
ok, done
noted
Most amps don't benefit much from ss3

dayum
thanks for the info
For lucid dreamer he's already good at ss3 but sss is also really really good
also more futureproof
hooo i see
Has male debuff though
would you recommend balter, scire and cw sss over wanshi then?
i havent touch that since it existed im sitting at 80k currency
Was just memeing 
80K vouchers????
yea
I only have 43k vouchers
imagine not spending any of it since day one
That's almost enough to sss
You need 96,480 assuming you wait for it to refresh the discount
You'll prob have enough by the time he rolls around
also as of cn beta, wanshi is gonna be used in 2 teams
ice with qu, and glaciation with selena
Apparently ss0 wata is still better than ss3 wanshi in void?
wanshi needs sss iirc
Damn
as you said, free unit debuff
sheeesh
- that

Male debuff is thick huh
Wanshi powercreep or daren powercreep who's first
nah, mostly free unit debuff
Free unit debuff is worse
mostly memeing that m*les are hated by kuro/community
didn't stop with lilith
funny that alisa is used in 3 teams now while balter in 1 only 
old hag frfr
surely they won't screw selena
it's even more funny when you think about it
that if they're gonna buff trueslash in the future
they'd most likely replace balter with a new dps
instead of just slapping another amp on it
the current ones need replacing is cw and qu and lamia
if they're gonna slot a new trueslash dps
yeah think it's slightly better than dark
With Selena, how do the various teams now stack in CN beta?
but dark tank is def very close now
definitely an upgrade over balter
can reach 10 mil score in wz previously not achieveable
Is any other team noticbly lagging behind?
trueslash
dark gonna become the weakest again
for main element then dark
ion > glaciation > trueslash?
Hmm, perhaps a dark amp with trueslash?
lilith?
you mean dark tank?
wonder when they'll replace empy
she's the oldest rn but then again fire is still pretty strong
and by replacing empy means another fire boss
I probably did my cleanest background removal till date today
inb4 empy breaks rosetta's record for longest lived meta unit 
how long has rigor been in cn meta?
empy was near 2nd anniv for cn
around 3 years 8 months i think
iirc even during nier's reign she was still relevant right?
huh? is she in 2b's slot?
idk but i remember seeing old wz vids with a2 9s and rose
Pruning inactive accounts?
so she does take 2b slot
can someone screenshot an example of a fullbuild unit's memories
Is Rosetta completely out once Hanying arrives?
Not even used in PPC or what ever?
still can be used in ppc
she might be used in lower ppc stages
Who's build ?
kinda similar to pulse with wata
if hanying solos ppc then you'd still use rosetta
since her sig's def shred actually stacks with hanying's
Wait wait what
might want to use 4 dv 2 cath on rigor
WAIT WAIT WAIT
hanying rosetta alisa
then 4 signa 4 phillip on alisa
So Gugnir can't be used as reso fodder just yet
But isn't that high rank ?
weapon rigor
Damaging a target will reduce their Physical DEF by 20% for 8s. The duration is refreshed each time this effect is triggered. Dealing damage with small/medium/wide-area electromagnetic beam also applies a damage over time effect for 8s, dealing Physical DMG equal to 25% / 50% / 100% of ATK every second.
458
230
untested at lower ranks
wdym
aether said the invest for that is fairly high for hanying
Like did anyone test it for low ranks
I asked if lower invest is possible
i just returned after a year, other than going SS + getting sig and cub, idk what else to upgrade on my cw for example
it depends i guess, but if hanying solos then who else are you gonna use?
get basic atk and +15 atk memory reso
4 dv 2 cath balter
If you have sig weapons, harmony lets you add a 2 set of memories, but you have to do Clash reflections for the material, new mode that can be harder then PPC.
wasnt there like a build guide or smth? or was that the grayravens website
that works
build cw
Main DPS Set
Main DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
General DPS set
Used for S0-SS3
4x Diesel
2x Cottie
Top Slot : 6x Basic Atk
Bottom Slot: 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Cottie
dont think i can afford sig weapons, i plan to go for reruns haha
Nah
For the guide
I'm rushing the guide making rn
Have to pin it with the timer

Well, with all the upcoming patches being crunched together, you should focus on the new characters.
Godspeed my man, and thank you

yeah i get that, but i dont really care about leaderboards. i know thats not a good thing but i wanna get epitaph on rerun
you know he's gonna be in standard banner next patch right? or did you use the standard selector for cw?
Hello, I’m a completely new player. Which 5 star should I redeem from the standard character selector?
wait whay
theres a standard selector?
did you check the base banner check event?
i dont even know what that is i just redownloaded yesterday
Standard banner?
ohhhh hes gonna be on standard banner? so should i wait until next patch to lock him?
Ye
You can get Lee Entropy from it, he is ancient, but he can at least do some work on the physical team.
he's gonna be here next patch
Is that my best pick?
Wdym by standard selector
thats baller, where do i farm standard banner pulls
rn the S ranks i own is Rosetta, Stigmata, CW, Garnet, Hyperreal
idk what else i want, probably only Epitaph?
can you screenshot what you're referring to?
epitaph is gonna be used in 2 teams
where do i get standard banner tickets other than the weekly dice roll monopoly board thing
The selector is very old, it doesn't have any of the newer characters, Entropy is just a place holder for your physical team, until Hanying arrives in two-three months.
rare events
Login rewards

What build should I do for empyrea in the void team? Dps, support, or pps?

Good night y'all
so just gotta wait years for a standard banner epitaph 
once i lock him will the banner ever run out
Technically
oh 5 pulls away from an Srank
so just wait till next patch for a 'free' epitaph?
The standard selector resets on Ishmael patch
she holds 4 dv 2 eins/2 guin
free epitaph it is
@rocky wedge how well can ss0 pyroath solo
no
If I want to use Ayla Kaliedo mainly for her amb buff, which set should I give her?
for what team? she's mostly qte bot
Shukra and Glory
wz: 4 dv 2 guin
ppc: 4 guin 2 gloria / 2 guin 2 gloria 2 samantha or 2 lantern
imagine she gets replaced by another s-rank
I should buy Memories in the event shop to reroll the Resonance stats right?
If it’s not correct yet
if you're at endgame and have nothing else to resonate
Why guin, it just gives heal
memory guin
Heals for 10% more. Increases the Elemental DMG and Resistances of the healing target by 10% for 5s. Has a cooldown of 8 seconds.
A healing drone will be charged when healing is performed. When fully charged, the next time you performing healing will consume all charged energy to summon the healing drone. It will follow an ally with the lowest HP percentage, healing allies in a 5m radius for 2% maximum HP per second and increasing their Elemental DMG by 15% for 5s. 12s cooldown.
132
64
223
1528
read the elemental dmg
Does it trigger in qte?
you get healed on qte
she cant
yes
as well as wata i guess if not worse

the dpses that are going to be powercreeped pretty soon is cw and hyperreal right
hyperreal is replaced as main attacker by pyroath
cw is benched to subdps by nanaknight
cw is not yet replaced as lightning attacker
She's not used on field anyways
cw still got a job ig
only at sss
Cw is either replaced by garnet or qte bot
stigmata powercreeped yet? or only by newest selena in cn?
Or prolly ss3 pyroath for qte dmg

powercrept as phy attacker
Stigmata has use
stigmata still has trueslash affix
Until Selena
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAKYE4w8XvI&t=31s
this is what happens if you don't have sss cw
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Should I keep building Vera?
she's just a qte bot for lamia
Is it normal for a beginner level 71 who skips stories to still not have any teams or is it just me I started in Christmas eve
isnt she getting replaced by teddy?
That's this month right?
Should have 1 at least
at ss3 iirc
yeah in jan 10
U didn't pull for qu?
Wth bro
alot of people say vera and teddy almost same so if you like vera more (i like her too) than keep using vera other wise switch to teddy
Did you like have any elemental team?
Well about liv and kamui, I chose three different element s characters and didn't know what a team building is that time
Both of them support or nah?
Teddy better
teddy amp and vera support
teddy is supp bro
we don't have an a-rank amplifier
someone few months ago told me they same kek i learned something too
I don't know if you should or shouldn't, but maybe you should try rerolling an acc where you read the story
Really?
okay idk why i thought she amp
Don't lie to me now
And also watch beginner guides on yt

ss3 teddy
Eschatological Paradox
Pinging Cadence Orb also activates Overflow Zone that lasts for 8s.
Dark DMG increase effect of Dark Radiation doubles.
Each Analysis Point additionally increases the Base DMG of Clamorous Tuplet and its replay by 0.4%. When Teddy accumulates 150 Analysis Points, the Base DMG of Clamorous Tuplet and its replay additionally increases by 150%, and she gains 3 Signal Orbs of a random color upon performing Clamorous Tuplet.
Isn't it same
qte rozen
Black Rose Impact
Upon entering the battlefield, deals Dark DMG to nearby enemies and heals the ally units within range. Also grants them the Dark Radiation effect that increases their Dark DMG.
- Deals 400.0% Dark DMG to nearby enemies and heals the ally units within range for HP equal to 100.0% of Vera: Rozen's ATK.
- Dark Radiation increases Dark DMG by 10% for 5s.
Teddy has longer buff iirc
qte teddy
core teddy
Source Infiltration - Cadence Integration
Trigger: Ping Cadence Orb
When Teddy has 9 Computation Points, she will gain 1 Cadence Orb. Maximum no. of Cadence Orb: 1.
- Upon pinging Cadence Orb, Teddy: Decryptor will leap into the air and use the chance to throw the bear head, which explodes when it hits the ground and deals 1000.0% Dark DMG. This attack deals 150% extra DMG against Homeostatic Forcefield. Gains Super Armor and 50% DMG Reduction during this.
- Pinging Cadence Orb while in Unanalyzed Mode also grants 75 Energy to Teddy: Decryptor.
I'm F2p btch
Yes
What if teddy and leap yinlin together
I haven't done gb in a while
Isn't wata better than weave
no idea, all i know is i was stuck in gb for 8min with weave

Now for 16 mins with Ishmael

Which of the S ranks do I pick from the starter selector
Wtf she doesn't kiss balls anymore with the skin? Bs
you mean the one from lee enthopy to nanmi pulse?
Will we get farmable teddy
she is an a rank construct so i think she will be in basic construct banner after event
I'm a beginner to the game and I'm planning to get some characters, what do you guys recommend for me to get?
Yes
I heard the meta today is this dude watanabe and this girl too crimson weave
She kisses a polygon qith skin lol
save your resources for now dont pull anything besides basic construct banner and use your black cards to pull on luna oblivion banner coming in jan 10 also dont hit your 40 pity on basic construct banner make sure to take no 21 from your tank a rank selector from class thing
honestly none of them are revelant in current meta i would say pick any you like but if you want easy clearning in early game than lee enthopy does fast attacks and decent damage
Lee it is, thanks
for base banner selector, wait for watanabe epitaph next patch
no worries have fun
Yoooo!!! Thank you very much!! I saw the skills of her and it's so op what, I'm definitely gonna get her lol, thank you!!
nice have fun and gl on pulls
She litterally halved the time 
Does she have a recommended team? Just like aether gazer game?
I'm sorry if my English is bad hehe
honestly i dont know she is a new element and one of a kind so practically you would slap any good tank and amp you have with her
Yeah okay thanksss
who replaces rosetta as phys tank?
45s in 10s
wow time travellers hate this trick
oic
Hanying: Solacetune
Ruan Mei clone
Damn shes hot
kek
damn I don't like her design
i like the thighs
that's it
i only like the thic
like what sir issac newton once said
the greater the mass,the greater the attractions
that is actually funny gj
does any of these matters when I don't have time to spent serum?
Same 
is the lightning healer liv still good for A rank target if i want a qte bot
usually if i want materials i just farm event grind stage and buy mats from event shop
liv lux prefers having ss
already on SS, i was wondering on what A rank target units are good
i can only make phys and lightning teams rn, fire team next patch because i have hyperreal and will get epitaph from the standard banner
you mostly try to get a-ranks to fill the role for your s-ranks
for phys, lightning and fire what would that probably be
phys i got stigmata and rosetta
lightning i got garnet, cw and liv lux (already SS)
fire i got hyperreal and epitaph (soon)
for fire, get sophia and have her hold 4 dv 2 eins
for physical, get alisa from dorm commissions
these are bad. You spend your serum on the event shop mostly
ss sophia
no need
just S? i guess
dont waste your serum on those each event we get a battle something event where you can do x8 times battle in a challenge and that rewards you with its event currency and you can use that currency to buy 6* memories and resources like exp skill points cogs leveling up weapon mats etc etc which is more efficient
she's just a dv eins holder so....
tyvm then
SSS Sophia has a buff tho for whoever picks up her orbs
how exactly are you gonna pick up her orb while maintaining the usual rot
QTE
unless sophia orbs can heal on spot
can sophia even buff hyper with her fire dmg buff during ult 2?
he's stationary when ulting
Sophia replacement would be empyrean right?
yes
atleast empy can easily proc guin
though her fire dmg buff is locked to ss and sss
SSS+ reduces fire shred on ult cause there's no a rank fire tank (for now)
just use xxi w/ shake/gloria why bother s+ her
that requires a lot of orbs
that works
though he's gonna get epitaph
yeah im at 55/60 on standard banner rn, so epitaph is guaranteed for me
also is there a leap priority guide? i kinda wanna leap my garnet
sss 1st or no leap 
fr?
you don't even have feral
you can't rotate with cw without ss feral with sig
i dont yeah, and i kinda dont wanna pull for her...
so dont even bother with leaping garnet?
don't bother unless she's sss
oki
because sss leap has total of 35% lightning shred
if you wanna waste time doing allat be my guest
do you know how far those orbs are
they aren't 1cm away
they are 1km away
someone suggestion for this week ppc distribution?
three neutral bosses
but my qu isn't s+ 
wb said b4
hell qu
knight chaos uncle
test elite lamiya
irl skill issue
(according to kuso)
why cw low score?
@feral pollen
I thought she's the strongest unit in the game
Having abit of difficulty with this set of clash reflection in the last stage. I’m using physical team… would you guys suggest using elemental teams like ice/lightning?
I used fire
fire is the comfy and good enough to clear with wata
Ice sucks against cr lamia because bug
ice has better dmg but you'll need to mald because Qu can't parry well
what bug?
Qu can't parry
Ah ic will try with fire then jce I guess
Then just dodge
Thanks yall
yw 
doesn't parry cause some dmg though?
Yeah
Lorian one rotating Lamia with his S+ Qu
a bit of recap for selena phy, what are her ss0 clear times against sketchers?
assuming ss0 invest on everyone (except maybe sss alisa)
So I realised
When Luna has the half chakram gauge - her wing is folded
When she has Wing gauge - her wing is active
Nice detail they added tbf
Even though most people won't probably notice this while playing
stop slacking

how do u guys often get reso for memories? just use dupes?
Dalao has spoken
Damn
dupes for ultima, usbs for specific resos
The only thing I use serum for apart from harmo may
Use dupes on the non important part of the reso
And USD for the important one
Ikr
uh how do i know which ones important or not
Atk reso are shared between. 3 reso
if the resos is anything but the +15 atk resos
Normally the specific reso is the important one
Anything else is "important reso"
so like, sig level is the important reso here?
Mai Ingrisu saikyou
Usb for 1/7
SSS CW ?
That’s all
S
yes, but....why ult reso?
Then ult reso is useless
idk i left this game for a year i dont remember what i did
her ult does not really hit hard until sss
It's actually bad for your CW
so they recommend +15 atk on bottom slot
so just >build cw and follow what it says
Grayravens ult reso 
[redacted]
Didn't they fix that
Eventually
I’m guessing setsu didn’t get a reply to why skip hyper was in their vid 
?
whats up with ezra changing names daily
Ezra being Ezra wdym
that's just ezra being a discord mod as usual
what difficulty do u guys play coop on? hardest always?
lmao
i kinda need 5star weps
why is she hitting like a truck
just try reaching the 21 times every week
do the easiest diff solo 21 times?
On phase 2 if you parry all projectiles she starts with half hp ircc
you can, or hardest one if you wanna get lucky in between
😔
Uhm what should i pick? I'm a beginner btw
Pretty easy to solo hard coop
changyu
Okay thanksss!
sure, it's gonna be easy
(i hope
)
Literally just dodge bro
Kek, did your Lamia die
i don't have lamia 
Ah, so witchcraft
Makes sense
brute forcing with ss3 scire
do coop matches still have that stupid only active on certain hours
spin to avoid Damage™
Yes
oh man
spin to parry too 
i accidentally cleared
like literally acciddentaally
idek what i did lmao, echo just shot three arrows and some how lamia went from 50 health bar to 0
Kek
Me when I accidentally Dive canceled into a 15s run
my first attempt was Solo Qu and somehow i cleared in 7 mins total, all 14 stages

Probably some debuff I didn't read because I'm functionally illiterate

naahh, i think i acccidentally parried something lmfao
i was just trying to survive cuz my watanabe died lmfao
and i was jsut spamming buttons cuz i waas frustrated
Her red throw attack
this is a easy CR tho
Opposite for me
My hyperfraud and Empyrea died and I had to solo Watanabe from 60hp
Idk how I survived 😭
free orbs after sig
Are these guys any good
No all trash
It would be even easier if Lamia didn't one shot my Wata through his Ult animation somehow
one is absolute trash, two are free
ikr
Which do I get? I have Lee
no one
Chrome is garbage trash that I wanna throw a brick at
new patch on 10th
current one was qu, she is gone
these are old characters
who are out of meta except bianca
but you will get her for free soon
so pointless getting her rn
no matrix or timestop is funny
don't pull arrival
also rosetta is free to get
also this, unless you are a spender
even spender have no use for arrival
lamia can literally just go out of the ult range and one tap you

just don't touch arrival ever
it's really funny 
Just wait next patch man it's just a few days
How do i make weapon harmony lvl 2
Idk how I managed to kill Lamia
You don't it's not out
Wat oh
Forgotten feature
I was pre farming SSS+ Teddy using my S+ A ranks because dumb brat but now I have 200 shards worth of A rank shard selector mats and idk what tf I'm supposed to do with them
Unless?
Harmo 2 on reso 3 
Then whats the point of putting 2 and 3 there
Beta originally had 2 and 3 iirc but it was removed
Deleted feature
Oh
I’m doing wishing target for 21 felina is that a good choice
I tried her and she seems fun
Watanabe Epitaph is the best option when he comes out on the standard banner on jan 10
She is free later, and Luna next patch is must have
But is 21 a good choice
And will pity carry over? How long does the wish banner last
pretty much everyone after hyperreal is a must have tho 
We live in a society 
Are skins obtainable as a f2p
the wishing banner goes to jan 9th
Guys can I ask things about Taiwan server here
What should I choose among these and these are my s ranks
Aw crap
Is it possible for me to get 50 pulls worth of cards before the wishing banner ends
it's possible but i recommend you save for luna
she's a new element char
that is necessary for the new WZ

you are doing good for now
nanaknight and pyroath are such great chars frfr
Take my bank account Kuro
Lucia
how easy is it to get 5star weapons other than maxing out coop rewards each week
holy, pyroath?
Yep
The only other way you'll get 5 stars is through pulling.
ooo i c
doing coop and being lucky from picking options also is rare to get too i guess?
do we know if its BC? or is it RC-only
Relatively
You might get 1 or 2 sometimes or you might have to watch the dude who slacked co-op in your team get it
Not yet
im soloing diff 2 rn because im not strong enough to solo diff 4 :( and no ones playing coop anyway
when i join a quickmatch its a bot afkhosting it
pyroath
That's miku bait btw
time hell 25s
The provided time needs to be a valid number of seconds!
Its a yt video thumbnail
it's working

Oh
Pok you

time knight 25
Knight 0:25
Final Score: 76538
time hell 25
Hell 0:25
Final Score: 306152
Yeah, Co-op is just really badly designed
Speaking of ppc, what is the fastest team for neutral bosses?
Qu
it depends on the stage and investment
And second fastest is fire? Or dark/lightning
dark and fire kinda the same
dark is usually faster if similar investment from my experience
Current lineup basically
My investment is sig for everyone, dlt for the ones who need it
Selena sss, karen sss, most other characters are ss or ss3
hm
ye idk then, sss daren has extra edr shred
like i said, depends on the stage and investment
if ur pure ss0 then it should be ice > dark = fire
idk mixed invest scores
Then ill use ice for hell and 2 chaos, and fire/dark for the remainder
eh
lamia hell score for ss0 team is the same for dark and ice
ice is faster on shark and tb tho i think
just go try and see what gets higher score
go from hell to test
are weapon resos a whale only thing
you get one 4free every few months via norman
and crit, but that is only relevant for phys units
this means my 5star pity is back to 0 right
No
Until you get 6 star the pity will reset
no, the 5star one
hmmmm this is a lot, and not even all packs
6star ik how it works
Ohh i dunno about this one
I think it's 10 pulls?
is this beta packs sum?
yea, the ones I think are worth it at least
Does it really matter?
The whole point of pulling on the banner is to get the 6star
Otherwise just do co-op for 5 stars
total tickets you could say -7500 for the cub
Still crazy amount
Woulda get the cub for that 7500 ticks tho
yeah it's worth it for whales since it's only 1 s rank patch, idk about 2 or more s rank patches this is not even close to enough 
this is around 650$
what about 4 in a row 
oh right I didn't include the spending event you could add ~17k to it
multiply by 2 
let's keep it per patch not b2b patches
the thing is, if you s+ whale and this is enough for 1 character, with 2 characters for 2 integrated patches the total will be less, and you might eventually have to convert to bc directly assuming you have nothing before the patch begins
but sss whales will be ok during the integrated patches ig
I have to compare it to qu patch and how much you spend to clear the shop
but ss0/ss3 won't 
i need them bp tickets, but buying x3 is unachievable for me
I said it before, if you are light spender who only spends on bp and monthlies you will be hurt, if you are giga whale for s+ you will get hurt
sss is kinda ok if they just pick some good value packs
for lucia crimson weave is Diesel x4 / Cottie x2 still the best build?
in general yeah
you may have to change it for ppc if you want the fastest clear
and what build for ppc?
some clears require fred instead of cottie but this is for those who sweat in ppc and want fastest clear
you will do fine with cottie no need to change it
okay that is good to hear
Yo guys I am new to pgr here and I want to ask is there a guide/something I should know before I started playing?
resos can use any weapon of the same tier, no need for dupes right?
Alot tbf. For starters. Do try to get the latest characters whenever you can. And try and ask here before making any big decision ´ ▽ ` )ノ it won't ruin your gaming experience but ee wouldn't want ya to get a character that's latgonally weaker than others
For 6*s yeah
5*s I don't know yet
what am i supposed to press to interact with the portal
Does that blue button not work?
Above changyus head?
im on controller
Ooohhh
No idea sorry (╥﹏╥)
I'll test out with my controller and see what happens
this is including the spending events
you should be able to go thru the door
last time i did,it got me to the other side
also why are you doing recitativo di fantasia
that sh*t is cooked,no need to touch it no more
selena?
Hes on controller
the binding is scuffed, click y on your keyboard to get the mouse cursor out and click on the blue button
what for
by the time you sss Selena lillith already exist :omegakek:
why not getting her it's free
maybe they like her
ew who likes selena
selena does absolutely nothing to dark team
ESPECIALLY with beginner setup solo lamia
valid reason,go through with the pain
also not everyone knows that she's not great
everything for lady iris
You can get teddy
people don't get born with knowledge instantly
this is very wrong calculation
i did my own and it was around 126k tickets for just 2k RC
don't think another 2k would only give that little
how you did yours?
i can show u
ok show me
Ok
here, these are all packs taken from KR so i am assuming we are getting the same
did the calculation for "low" spenders too and f2ps, and that even includes buying 1 skin for SSS players so this could have been 1 more pack instead if they are min maxing
this is mine
u missed the topping up event itself
plus u didn't put all the high value low RC packs
wiat what?
if u top up 2k RC, u get 13k yellow tickets
yeah it's on the bottom
oh
I put all the packs except for 3 packs
hence why i did my calculation on 2k RC specifically
the weapon monthly, weapon pack, ht pack that you can buy 6 times
btw, i didn't count cub tickets as pulls
wait
ht pack is pretty horrible, i mean at least for my 2k RC calculation, didn't do 4k RC calculation
is it worth speedrunning story rn and try to get lamia if the only dark units i have is rozen and capriccio
oh wait I have it
it is a pack, let me give u the KR video link
nvm
Dalao debate
u took yours from kr?

mine is from the beta maybe this is the difference?
yea? we legit follow them 1:1
maybe but i follow from KR bec. it is a live server
and we legit are always behind them 1 patch
ok show me kr packs
trying to find the video aaaa
I'm not following just how much are kr bros losing or gaining 
found it
All free rewards and top up packages info.
Note that these information are shared from creator test server and is subject to change in official version
TIMESTAMP
00:00 CONTENT
00:06 DAILIES AND WEEKLIES
01:00 OPERATION GUARDIANS
01:11 PPC REWARDS
01:29 CLASH REFLECTION REWARDS
01:48 NORMAN REWARDS
02:00 WARZONE REWARDS
02:26 DORM REWARDS...
this is the beta
and the video I followed
oh, well we should be the same, no?
Also
Is including the spending event fair?
Didn't the same event also happen for cn
The event isn't tied to the synch plan hence adding it is eehhh
I just did the patch calculation idc if it's on cn or not
spending event is the same, topping up event is not
also the second spending event is new
there is 2 instead of 1
Oh so they added smth?
Oh that's fair game then
yes, as i said, 2k RC would give u 13k yellow tickets
did you count usb resos and these stuff?
I just did pure ticks calculation
nope bec. for the 2k RC one u don't go for them, they are horrible packs
actual Dog packs
for 2k, i can do this 4k calculation later
but i am busy with finals, dying atm
again, those weapon packs are bad (for 2k RC calc)
weird what is the difference then 
i would have loved to show u in a VC but super duper busy :(
sadge
I will double check everything
Sssyyyooooo
The tldr issss
did you include login weeklies etc?
or only the packs
of course, i have written in the image i showed u
i have everything included
yeah this is the difference
Events, Dailies, Weeklies, Spending events, Packs, Etc aka the amount of pulls u getting
I just did the packs and only the packs, no f2p income what so ever
so it can get like 180k
yea, probably even more actually
yeah
i mean, at 2k RC which is around $300, that is nearly double SSS units
this is pretty good but still 700 for most packs is 
yeah for sure
sweet spot is $300 if u are a SSS (or any SSS player really)
funny i did this calculation for my friend,s i am a monthly bp player myself LOL
Wait so the packs and spending plans are actually decent Oo?
unfortunately, fortunately yes
it is just that the way it is advertised is ass
if you can get all the high value packs only even if it's beyound your need is also good, since you don't know how packed are next patches with multiple s ranks you can prepare
if u spend $300 in luna patch btw, u will have exactly enough RC for 1 year of integration patches if u are a monthly+BP only
if you plan your purchase right yeah, this patch isn't bad since it's only 1 s rank
Kuro doing kuro things
as I said before the ones that will be hurt are very light spenders (bp and monthly)
and super whales maybe
But it's still design around buying multiple packs no?
Just love how people went wild and turn off brain once they see "packs in KR in unchanged"
super whales is 100%, not a maybe (S+ players i mean)
I doubt half of those even spent to the game
What is the coop function for?
5★ weapon farming place
yeah, for sss it's better because you can now avoid the bad packs and get only the very good ones multiple times with the same amount you spend
That's your only source for 5★ weapon without pulling banner
Ohh ok. Tnx
You're welcome
i mean yes but to be fair hearing "you need to pay double to triple" is not too nice xdddd, but once u do the calcs for BP+monthly u are spending 40% more on average, for SSS players.... they are not spending extra if they do it smart LOL, like genuinely, maybe 20% more. For S+ well.... 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
yeah true they are the ones that have to spend a lot more than what they used to
Ah wow
Besides Void/Nihil team, what other teams are recommended to build rn for a new player considering that I already have Pulse and Rosetta
tbh most players nowadays are bp and monthly, telling them they have to pay 70$ instead of 20$ is not good
Light spenders that are relying on monthlies and BP is simply screwed since sync plan announcement
pretty much
exactly
Packs that are heavily relying on longer time for higher value is simply free falling cause you only have shorter time for each bundles
It's inevitable
honestly, luna is THE patch for me, if i don't feel it.... well it was nice talking to you all. If it goes decent i will continue.
We back yo the start it seems
whales And f2ps fine
Light spenders not so much
same here but it looks decent so far
not for me, i am BP+monthly, not nice at all tbh
Adjusting the bc value from BP/monthlies should have done it
But it seems like that's still too risky for kuro financial
BP+montly and S+ are gtting str trailed the hardest
nah, wuwa made more money for them in 1 day than PGR made in legit 2 years
Plus reach too close to the sun and cn will notice
not a joke btw
fun sour fact 
We've never been popular anyway 
here is the TLDR of everything
Pgr glb or pgr cn
That's a very imprloryant distinction
globlul dedge as always
Just read up
pgr died so wuwa can use all of its clothes to wear and its bone to make a house
We just did this
ok so either way im f*cked
no i mean like fully clearing them out
f*ck you kuro
yet, they don't want to leave us alone
I say we as if I did anything 
Sorry light spenders (╥﹏╥)
Oh nvm
wtf I have trypophobia pls dont
Exams already did It for you

I don't really get the logic, usually you just get the very good packs first anyway
so for joint patches you just get the same packs...but buy out the 2x/3x stock of them?
saaaame bestie!

well, for me good packs aren't enough sometimes so I had to buy some bad packs 
studying like a normal students
fr fr then we both fail our exams 
Packs don't get 67% cheaper bro
YES WE WILL! i will go now continue studying this absolute abomination of a subject
good luck on ur exams bestie 
you too oomfie <3
I already took care of u
...but if that's the case then it will be the case here too
if you expect to buy 3x as much bc/tickets as usual then it's just gonna be the same packs you buy usually, just 3x
credit
take it or leave it
unless the sync patch brings some extra good packs on top of the usual expected lineup
well, if we speak about the next patch no, since you have 3x packs but one s rank, but for the upcoming patches idk how it will go, maybe I can stack some bc and prepare for it idk
Kuro how about you give us 2 extra packs for free when we buy 1
For the price of 3!
How awesome!
Generous company indeed

were gonna eos
yet
yeah that's the thing
on a rank patches you don't have to pull anything but you still buy stuff
to stock up on pulls
why shouldn't that be the case here
Nah they didn't bring any lube
And that’s while I was gacha gaming
I don’t see how u can’t do both at the same time

it's kinda like the reasoning some ppl on Twitter were using like yeah sure only one S rank next patch, but it's not like the bc for the next s rank will suddenly appear on their release
You can study calculus while malding void wz
i have a really bad sense of time management

What is that divine axe kick
It's her kick in primal Projection
Ah- I'm not far into the story
Bro boutta swear calculus formula after malding wz and write down ish rotation on the exam paper
I just recently got to fake ascension
it's the case, let's say youu spent 300$ on this patch, according to raiden calculations you will have around 120k this is enough for 2 S ranks to go to 3s, with the upcoming patches you won't have to spend a lot to keep up with the new characters just let's say you get around 60- 80 k per patch with like 150-200$ probably more, this is the typical range for someone who gets everyone 3s I would say you will be just fine ig
We first see Ishmael in chapter 14 or am I mistaking her for vonnegut
for those who spent this much to get 3s, they will not be in a very bad position like the light spenders which have to spend 3x or the s+ whales
it's all bad at the end
but this is better than the other cases
Do my hell dark shark kill
is this team viable? I started 3 days ago ;-;
You'll be using that team up until you get Ayla for free in the dorm
And wanshi lucid dreamer in the future (also for free)
no one saw that
I did
oh ok, does the placement order matter?
I'm genuinely wondering where these numbers are coming from
120k?
even if we assume like 40k of that is f2p income, that's 80k with 300$?
that's expected bc/RC efficiency of around 44
which is uhh
way above what packs generally provide
How large (file size) is the upcoming patch, approximately? Do I need to redownload 15gb 
Placement does matter, but you already got it right
Spender debate 
Well it’s more because of the spending events gives around 19.5k so maybe won’t be the case after this patch

Are u winning trs chan 
I can’t see beyond this patch tbh I don’t know if it will be better, worse
But I know that I will be fine next patch

He has solid points that I don’t know how to answer but he is right could be bad for most could be good for some could be the same for few people like me 
The point is
Is feral scent a good f2p option? Is she signature hungry or nah
-Fuck kuro and its sync plan
where can i buy cubs?
pull for them
U pull cub through banner
i mean
where are you getting feral
we cant buyt hem? 😭
She needs some proper equipment to do well for onfield performance
you can buy cub shards for the Cubs you already have through Norman ore shop
But since she's an amplifier/support
She's still valuable even if you don't swap to her at all
Although
THIS IS CLEARER THAN THE SUN IN A SUNNY DAY IN THE DESERT
There are better character to consider nowadays than just feral
okay thanks sm
what should I do
I can't decide
I want to maintain my acc in a good shape but what's the point if the competitive scene will be dead
I’m trying to choose who to pull for in the wish banner
I started today
you shouldn't be pulling wishing banner
We all could have lived peacefully and happily without problem and trouble beside the fact global will still get shafted anyway if sync plan never happened
But guess what
Why

wdym now u can legend retain
they can't do that. How could solon sleep if he didn't shaft global
first priority always is getting debut characters
so you need pulls ready for next patch
also wishing banner will go away soon and the next time it appears will be in like a year
so until that point your pulls will be totally gone unless you get lucky and get someone before pity
and even then it's just not a wise investment of your pulls rn
Considering uncertain f2p income and also 0 info about your account investment to see what you need and what you don't need, wishing banner is inadvisable unless you're confident with yourself having enough funds for the next debut character while also can afford pulling wishing banner
but what's the point if everyone gone
And yeah, your pity won't be carried anywhere but to next year
If you don't get the s rank now, you won't get it
Save up till January 10
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