📨・meta-help

[dapper skiff]

For blue orb I can understand, I cancel it by habit already by this point

[buoyant hornet]

Wz wave overkill galore

[zenith kernel]

Yeah, I only do it when I know I'll core kill
It's faster

[dapper skiff]

I see

Tight on timing huh

I assume u also do sp delay on top of that

If only I don't screw my sp delay and wave chain, I can let off 2 cw slam and 2 ult by the end of run

https://tenor.com/view/nanami-nanami-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-nanami-burger-gif-3426560742319433332

[glass bay]

ill frontload u

[dapper skiff]

But rn couldn't get that perfect

Only 2 ult 1 slam

[buoyant hornet]

Waiting for it

Is it normal for whel invest lilith to need to do 2 whole rots on 1 wave

[zenith kernel]

Nah, sp delay will add too much mald for me
I just try to rotate CW as fast as possible so that I can get time for the very end (if 9s swap it's successful)

[buoyant hornet]

Like is she weak at s+ or something

[dapper skiff]

I see

Didn't regret a single thing learning sp delay cw

Saves me around 1s from every sp delay cast

Actually game changer ngl

This is why I like swapping

[lunar lava]

sounds gae

[glass bay]

[buoyant hornet]

Watching lamia and lilith plow through waves then daren can't do even 1 health bar with her leap slam

[quartz dove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/970548063817052214/1322524492081135689/IMG_6180.png?ex=6771306a&is=676fdeea&hm=d6bb24f285a1eca50d7f9ae41f556b93c936ad6ba5768aafd6087c0a147f6244&

[buoyant hornet]

How did she manage to stay in meta this long

[quartz dove]

Cus half ass decision for dark

[buoyant hornet]

This person is a genshin whale I can feel it

[buoyant hornet]

I wonder if she was better in beta

....or worse in beta

Somehow

[quartz dove]

"oh no we cant creep luna too hard but if ss3 there is work around" and u get karen

"oh no we cant creep lamia too hard with free unit" u get lilith

[buoyant hornet]

That really seems to be the case because there's no reason she should be this dysfunctional

[quartz dove]

Meanwhile kekning is powercreep city

[dapper skiff]

@zenith kernel oh yeah another thing I forgot to mention

[buoyant hornet]

Thing is lamia is getting deleted once a dark tank is out

[dapper skiff]

Try cub 2nd active for this wz lol

It's actually cooking especially with bears

[buoyant hornet]

She's gonna be 4dv 4bathlon qte bot

[dapper skiff]

[buoyant hornet]

And if no harmo you'd be better off running a 2nd amp or XXI for gather 💀

[zenith kernel]

Damn bike won't stop yeeting me off the stage😭
Why hasn't Kuro fixed this

Might try it again when I'm Malding

[shy bane]

Globlul eos when

[dapper skiff]

U can just not press active when u think it's overkilling and yeeting u across the map

[cyan portal]

Maybe feb 20th

[dreamy pelican]

the cycle repeats itself

[quartz dove]

Yeah

[shy bane]

[buoyant hornet]

Watch new dark tank be weaker than cw

[zenith kernel]

Auto active on first Ult or something 😔

I'll try, wave 15 bear needs that extra damage to hit

[ripe stag]

Whale

[dapper skiff]

But it doesn't proc bike no?

U have to manually tap active skill to ride bike

Leaving the active untouched won't let cw ride

[plush plume]

I've started playing for 5 days, I've got 42/60 pity on the guaranteed limited pool for qu, I've seen a character in cn server called luna: oblivion and I think I like her much more, how do I know if she would be in the same type of banner and that my pity will be carried over?

or should I just restart my account and save all of the cards all over again?

[quartz dove]

It should be in same themed banner yes

[dapper skiff]

She will

Also if you're new you can easily afford both of those character even with hard pity

[lunar lava]

go to gameplay help

[plush plume]

this is gameplay help

[dapper skiff]

You guys starter have A LOT of unclaimed bc from all of the tutorial and one time bc rewards

Hi

[plush plume]

how do you know? is that like a banner type for all limited characters?

[dapper skiff]

[dapper skiff]

Themed is equal to debut banners

Every new character gets it

And they shared it

[plush plume]

yea that's true, and also I've never seen any event or missions giving our the red weapon cards, how do I get that?

[lunar lava]

bye

[plush plume]

ahh okay thanks

[zenith kernel]

Hm, might be me muscle memory tapping bike
Will need to get over that

[dapper skiff]

Very limited

People getting weapon tickets either from paid weapon pass or just converts black cards to some

It is rare to get it for free

[zenith kernel]

Me and my farmer Invest 😔

[dapper skiff]

Weapon is luxurious in pgr

[surreal nest]

im behind 117 points behind this guy im going to just

[dapper skiff]

Bro bottukam

[plush plume]

ah okay, thanks, do you know if that banner is time limited? because I might want to save for luna's weapon in the future

[dapper skiff]

Weapon banner?

Weapon gacha is permanent

[nova forum]

Segs

[dapper skiff]

It just that you have 80% rate up

[nova forum]

[dapper skiff]

With 20% of possible rate off

[plush plume]

for all weapons? even the weapons for limited characters?

[dapper skiff]

Yes

Apply to all

[nova forum]

Who should I even get to sss with vouchers

[plush plume]

ah okay thanks

[nova forum]

1. Empy
2. Balt
   3.????

[plush plume]

lucia because she pretty 🥰

[rough brook]

do anyone know how to fix that counter at the bottom as to not overlap with Research button?

[nova forum]

I focus on meta 🗿

[dapper skiff]

It's always good to remember that losing weapon rate off as f2p hurts your savings

[plush plume]

the thunder lucia is really really strong pretty sure

[dapper skiff]

So unless you have decent amount of savings, pulling sig is inadvisable

[dapper skiff]

Crimson weave?

Outdated

[nova forum]

She's dropped to sub DPS in a few months

[zenith kernel]

#21 reso is a scam

[plush plume]

ah okay thanks, how much difference does it make? with out without sig

[zenith kernel]

500 points lmao😭

[dapper skiff]

Noticeable

But at least they're still playable without it

At most cases

[plush plume]

would you advice me to skip qu and save for luna + her sig? because I already have plume and kaleido and I can get plume sig from missions

[nova forum]

Wat

[dapper skiff]

No

Get qu still

[plush plume]

why?

[dapper skiff]

She's gonna be the best and the only decent ice dps for the next year or possibly longer depends on what unit kuro will release on the future

And not having her within that period going to kick u in the guts harder than any bull would do

[plush plume]

ah okay thanks

[dapper skiff]

Even with budget investment, she's still the strongest ice dps

And plume is nowhere close to 5% of that

[nova forum]

Get ice qu on her debut banner, get epitaph from base banner selector, get empy from void Luna selector, get rose from beginner guide selector

Congratulations you'll have a full fire + phys + ice team in a few months

[dapper skiff]

It's even funnier when both of u got sig reso on feral

[nova forum]

Fck dark cuz yes

[dapper skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/896477555585069126.gif

[plush plume]

oh alright, thanks for your help

[nova forum]

Also lightning team will be given for free somewhere in a few months

[surreal nest]

powercreep daren when

[woven haven]

not anymore

free unit btw

[visual wind]

Next week CN beta?

[zenith kernel]

Together we brick

[nova forum]

Imma bet cw will be the last unit that'll get powercreep among gen2 units

[visual wind]

Next character gonna be Selena right?

[visual wind]

I thought it will be lamia?

[nova forum]

She doesn't have a fanbase that is as brainrotted as CW fans

[woven haven]

I mean if you wanna go by definition

Qu is the last one because everyone else before her has someone who does better dmg

[visual wind]

Hmm yeah idk how ppl dividing gen

[zenith kernel]

Kuro pls let it be Daren
It'll be so hilarious

[surreal nest]

imagine how high ice wz would be if qu didnt have free teammates

[woven haven]

as far as i’m concerned attackers don’t need to be replaced by other attackers to be “powercrept”

all attackers provide to the team is dmg
and if they’re not the top dmg dealer they might as well be considered powercrept anyways

this is especially true for nanami and cw case

considering nanami is one of the more self sufficient soloers

[plush plume]

do all limited characters move to the standard pool? because in the cn server I saw luna and qu are in the standard banner too

[zenith kernel]

Nanami's nuke is so absurdly big it'd be more surprising if CW survived not being a qte bot

[visual topaz]

normally 2 patches after their release

[woven haven]

all non collab units

[plush plume]

ohh okay thanks

[woven haven]

https://youtu.be/zAKYE4w8XvI?si=agvXhzy32wexbX6s

[nova forum]

Wot invest?

[woven haven]

the funny thing in pgr

is that attacker is really legitimately the worst class to be in

[nova forum]

They're just there as sale boosters

[woven haven]

when half the time self sufficient tank dps come along
while attackers are still handcuffed to a full 3 class team

[visual topaz]

SSS

[woven haven]

it just seems asinine that the tanks get such good coverage

[nova forum]

Eh

[woven haven]

as main dps

[zenith kernel]

Well, true enough
Once an attacker is creeped they're creeped for good
At least amps And tanks would still be useable if you don't have a specific meta alternative

[woven haven]

not to mention even when you creep a tank dps

hello the new attacker still wants that tank badly

Lucia Pyroath is the ultimate culmination of that

[surreal nest]

skip wata real

[woven haven]

Does she do more dmg than Wata? yes (if wata is on team with her)
Does she perform well on her own with QTE bots? helllllll noooooo

What do her ranks buff? Off field dmg

How do you get off field dmg?
By swapping off her

She is the ultimate anti solo unit in this game

[deft apex]

pyroath is gen 3 hyper

and people were complaining about switching hyper

ICANT

[woven haven]

and unfortunately the only one who can sustain dps when swapped off pyroath and provides the most shred is wata

and now lucia is doing a good chunk of her dmg on wata rotation

[nova forum]

Devs listened

But not to the lee hyper fanbase

[zenith kernel]

[zenith kernel]

Kek
Need kuro to nuke solo units entirely

[pure tartan]

what are weapon forging tickets used for? just got one as my reward for buying some rainbow cards

[zenith kernel]

Free sig

[nova forum]

"free"

[pure tartan]

whats sig and how do i redeem it

[dapper skiff]

"some"

[zenith kernel]

"free"

[dapper skiff]

[zenith kernel]

[nova forum]

Wtf "some"

[digital moat]

The audacity

[pure tartan]

bro can someone please tell me what free sig means 😭

[dapper skiff]

Signature/6★ weapon dude

[pure tartan]

ohhh

[nova forum]

Go to shop, and go to the most right section

Or middle right

[dapper skiff]

The red rarity weapon

[nova forum]

There's a special tab for that ticket

[zenith kernel]

"some"
And its 1k rc😭

[dapper skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1277247077084037181.png

[nova forum]

Absolutely dead

[dapper skiff]

The game is dead fr

[visual topaz]

[visual wind]

Do i need to spend 400rc for lamia skin?

[nova forum]

[surreal nest]

its 500

lol

[nova forum]

Is it

[visual topaz]

450 to 500

[dapper skiff]

The Gacha one?

[visual topaz]

yeah

[dapper skiff]

500/17.5k bc one?

[visual topaz]

500 is ultra hard pity

[dapper skiff]

Well

[visual topaz]

you get all important rewards soft pities at 90 pulls

[dapper skiff]

We're in pgr

We love hard pities

[visual topaz]

yeah

[dapper skiff]

[surreal nest]

juist get everythign atp

[visual topaz]

i assumed 500 RC expenses when i pulled stigmata's coating

yet got all stuffs at 89 pulls

[dapper skiff]

Wait

[nova forum]

Look at this whel

[dapper skiff]

Balter was 17.5k too?

[visual topaz]

then wasted 5 RC for the 90 soft

[visual topaz]

yea

[dapper skiff]

Why I remember it was cheaper

[visual topaz]

cuz meth dudes were saying you get USB and 2500 yellow + red

[dapper skiff]

F2* memory fr

[visual topaz]

lowering overall cost

[dapper skiff]

At least he managed to snatch one on debut

[digital moat]

It's actually 5k bc trust

[surreal nest]

real

[visual wind]

Last time i 70/100 with every gift

[visual topaz]

you're not getting the portrait frame ircc without 90

[digital moat]

Just spend 30k for the superior liv pfp and frame

[dapper skiff]

Demn

That's a lot more serum to spend

[digital moat]

I'm not getting any of those

[spiral merlin]

And then not use it

[zenith kernel]

"UsB = 7.5k sO tHe ValUe is AcTuarY leSs"

[digital moat]

[dapper skiff]

How long this thang lasts again

[woven haven]

People who rate usb at 7.5k are dumbasses

Like not dupe fed into wep but actual usb item

[visual wind]

I dont need it btw

[nova forum]

1 pull luck on weap banner = 250 bc
1 weap USB = 250 bc

[digital moat]

Aksuahally

[quartz dove]

[digital moat]

If ur this lucky you can get 1 wep dupe every 4 weeks

So it's akushually 0bc!!!

[visual topaz]

lol

[nova forum]

A big throbbing "IF"

[visual topaz]

i value it at 14 pulls

[nova forum]

[quartz dove]

[zenith kernel]

[visual topaz]

with 5% droprate on 30 banner pity and by applying the binomial law, 14 solves X>50%

[zenith kernel]

[digital moat]

Mathlao

[nova forum]

Maf

[visual topaz]

Meth

hmm

[raw swift]

Meet

[visual topaz]

user survey use custom link with your ID

[visual wind]

History will repeat, trust

[visual topaz]

if you say so

[rocky valley]

[pure tartan]

what does this mean?

[raw swift]

The boss is gone

It's past the time to coop

[dapper skiff]

Time to go to bed

[visual topaz]

this patch alrdy 10k BC

watafak

[visual topaz]

are those for the returnee?

i assume the code sharer only gets up to 250 * 10 BC?

[dapper skiff]

Yessir

Someone said the total pulls u get from the entire thing is like 3.3k worth

[visual topaz]

idk what 0/3 means

claimable thrice?

or does it require 3 returnees to have done those missions

[rocky valley]

is this good or bad

[visual topaz]

that's pure bc reward

not including the 14 login pulls we got nor the event ticket income from this patch

[nova forum]

[rocky wedge]

blasphemy

[nova forum]

Nvm

[visual topaz]

sNazz you're phat

[nova forum]

Is it possible for me to stay on hero-legend if I get 2 mpass A every month from January?

[shadow holly]

[ripe stag]

Damn that Dillongoo Qukra animation got some sick Qukra leap move ideas

That blue ping > swordrush can be a good leap move imo

[rocky wedge]

im phree to play

[visual topaz]

[rocky wedge]

😎

[nova forum]

Oh w8 hol up

Void Luna cub and sig won't be included in next patch

[foggy ridge]

"NOOOOO DONT GIVE THEM A DILLONGOO INSPIRED LEAP LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO CHROMOSOME WEAVE NOOOO"

[ripe stag]

Hey
CW leap looks cool

It's just

No timestop

[nova forum]

It's not even that useful

[ripe stag]

We don't have Umbrasurge content yet so don't know how that even will work

[dapper skiff]

Dawg wanted me to do dps empy in 2025 😭

[ripe stag]

[dapper skiff]

Also 10 dupes already got 2 red and 1 class for shake

[glass bay]

Guys what if kusogame strategy is to get alot of casuals who play for skins

And swipe for old chars

[shadow holly]

won't be included in what? the recharge exchange tickets will have them

[visual topaz]

[ripe stag]

This can be a leap animation as soon as you hold basic for the iceberg slash

[nova forum]

Bridget patch is 1 patch after void luna

[shadow holly]

yeah but they still included them

[nova forum]

Legit?

[ripe stag]

Yea lol

[shadow holly]

unless it was only in the patch notes and live got shafted

[nova forum]

[ripe stag]

Think of next patch as 3 patches within the time of 6 weeks

[shadow holly]

[spiral merlin]

Nah confirmed they're there

[nova forum]

Ok so I'm still safe for another patch

[shadow holly]

what about the invitation letters

[ripe stag]

GODDAMN

[spiral merlin]

Oh wait was this not about invitation letters

[shadow holly]

ik standard selector doesn't include Luna tho

[ripe stag]

LEGGS

[spiral merlin]

Yeah

Whale selector shop but not standard

[shadow holly]

yeah I just thought maybe the recharge selectors have her sig and cub but she herself isn't in the invitation letter

but yeah that would be stupid

[spiral merlin]

[dapper skiff]

Isn't that just her 2 stack hold attack?

[shadow holly]

anyway imagine having the invitation letters

[dapper skiff]

[shadow holly]

fat whale stuff

[dapper skiff]

She literally stepped back too

[glass bay]

Whel?

[nova forum]

My problem is with cub

[spiral merlin]

2 mpass A is barely enough for sigs

[glass bay]

What region

[nova forum]

Asia

[glass bay]

Maybe

[dapper skiff]

Just play luna rot correctly and you should be fine

No one knows how to play shake wata anyway

[nova forum]

@dapper skiff do u think 12% PPN gonna affect this?

[dapper skiff]

Awhhh hell nawh

Certainly

[nova forum]

[dapper skiff]

Ur mats gonna cost more upgrading Luna skill and getting her mem dupes for resos

[ripe stag]

She doesn't do that jump directly

[dapper skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1277247077084037181.png

[ripe stag]

And also that Icebreak animation

[nova forum]

Wat if I use 3rd party provider

[dapper skiff]

Better stockpile now

[dapper skiff]

Ban

Send to Papua

[nova forum]

Gua serius banh

[dapper skiff]

What 3rd party again

I was talking about mats

You can ask moon Glaive about this ngl

[nova forum]

Top up from FB

[dapper skiff]

They know some you can have

I'm just f2* bro

Like legit idk where to top up

[dapper skiff]

Oh btw ew
While you're here

[visual topaz]

i'm not

[dapper skiff]

How to do shake wata rot

[dapper skiff]

Okay

[visual topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/out-disappear-bye-vanished-gif-4932063

[dapper skiff]

But now you're here

[visual topaz]

i recall it was 3+5

[dapper skiff]

Yeah but how exactly

[visual topaz]

you're def having enough energy even doing 4 stacks

[spiral merlin]

There's no one single correct way to do it

[visual topaz]

so ig 3 ping again then basic then blaze orb

[spiral merlin]

Just do it

[ripe stag]

what the hell
Even an AI is roasting me for skill issue now

[rocky wedge]

no waying i may actually get top 6

[visual topaz]

after you've done 4 stacks alrdy

[dapper skiff]

Don't u expect me to understand whatever that is and I can do 3 5

[visual topaz]

Ehhhh

hm

[dapper skiff]

How about full rot with luna

[glass bay]

Whel

[dapper skiff]

Like 33 43 433 code like sss wata

[spiral merlin]

Actually no for 5 stack rota

[ripe stag]

Whale legend player

[spiral merlin]

Need 5 to ult

[dapper skiff]

Do you simply cancel some of the blaze orb for Luna to swap in?

[spiral merlin]

Adjust to make Luna hit shields

[dapper skiff]

Ouh

awh

HELL NAWH

[visual topaz]

so

[dapper skiff]

Rot boutta be confusing again

[visual topaz]

assuming 1 stack :
Ult 1 > basic > 3 ping >hook enemy > basic > quad blaze > 3 ping > basic > blaze orb > Ult 2?

[dapper skiff]

I need to think again

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-confused-gif-15712129875520007531

[spiral merlin]

You should just be able to fit in 15s

[ripe stag]

F2P for sNazz stands for Free to Pay

[spiral merlin]

No blaze orb cancel

[dapper skiff]

Oub

[ripe stag]

[dapper skiff]

U go full 15s on wata and just Luna again?

Or maybe something like 14s so u can activate lingya on DV holder

[spiral merlin]

If you finish early on wata you can do a super short Ayla rot

[rocky wedge]

ss is faster then 15

[dapper skiff]

Drop the input

[rocky wedge]

idk how to play

[dapper skiff]

I'mma C O N S U M E it

Goddamn it

[rocky wedge]

watch fury's memories

[dapper skiff]

Shared one singular braincell I see

[rocky wedge]

wait till wanshi

[dapper skiff]

[visual topaz]

cerlao

[dapper skiff]

Okay so

You simply doesn't skip any blaze orb for 14s or faster for this rite?

[rocky wedge]

no

[spiral merlin]

You don't need to worry about wata

[dapper skiff]

Don't skip any blaze orb, while also having enough energy for 2 ult2

[rocky wedge]

i mean u can skip last one if its hitting a shield

[spiral merlin]

Just play him and you'll be fine

[dapper skiff]

Good point

Back to good ol

[rocky wedge]

ye there is room for error in void shake wata

[dapper skiff]

D e p e n d s~~

[rocky wedge]

fire post lucia there isnt any

luna should still have like 3s to spare or so before swap cd done compared to lucia with 0 xD

[visual wind]

Wait, it's almost a week and there are still no recharge news from KR?

[dapper skiff]

What recharge news

[rocky wedge]

exactly

[visual wind]

Change paci

[rocky wedge]

u mean the guy in my wz bracket or on the ppc leaderboard?

[dapper skiff]

How do you rot void again for ss0?

Kale > wata 1 ult rot > 15s Luna > wata > kale > luna > wata > kale?

[rocky wedge]

well depends on zone since u dont want wata to be smacking shields

[dapper skiff]

Or that's not how

Welp

Pak

[spiral merlin]

[rocky wedge]

so even if u take luna out early if her wave progression past a certain shield wave is bad, then u can swap her out earlier and rotate her longer in the following rot

[spiral merlin]

That's all void is until ish

[rocky wedge]

but in hero she should be able to clear the first 9-10 waves on her own

[foggy ridge]

ill smack watas shields instead

[rocky wedge]

then u can swap wata in on 10 if its squishy, clear that and 11 then have luna come in for shield on 12 for example

like i had a tanky bear on 11 before where i had luna kill 10, wata dealt with 11 then i did like 5+ luna rots after that

[spiral merlin]

💀

[rocky wedge]

void wz feels tankier for wata after the update in wanshi patch

[steady otter]

@woven haven how bad ishmael when she in as tank off element
Lets say dark team

[spiral merlin]

Fluc goes up over time so that makes sense

[rocky wedge]

ye and i think since there is always void weather too

luna is just much stronger

[spiral merlin]

Oh wait did everything get generally tankier as well with wz change I forget

[rocky wedge]

i dont think so

but the fluc did rise randomly in some weeks

like i had 400 fluc legend before, the current one im in is only 364

[spiral merlin]

Then yeah should just be fluc increases as the reason

[upper egret]

400 fluc legend

[peak halo]

so basically with ss0 wata is like solo luna and if can swap to wata
thats feel a bit rot

[rocky wedge]

not really

like i said only after wanshi it felt like that for me

but still want to rotate for amp passive + orbs

could try to solo with 3s garn ig idk if it would work out better later

[foggy ridge]

i think i have a way to curse/insult pgr sweatlords

"I hope your mob warzones are filled with bears"

[rocky wedge]

ahhh

[spiral merlin]

I can't wait for Luna so I can use garnet in ice

[rocky wedge]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1y2421N7Wx/ here is thicc dalao with solo luna, but this was during her patch i think

[peak halo]

i like bears
they made me not swap lightning

[woven haven]

no shred fields so

[steady otter]

Ok thanks
And, how u play mrs gambling
Like (yellow + red) x3 or 3x yellow + red ?

[woven haven]

uh idk that one

ask empress for double ult rot

[spiral merlin]

I've seen 5+3, 5+4, 5+5, 4+3, 4+4 and way way more for Lilith

Stacks

It's crazy 💀

[steady otter]

I feel like (yellow + red) x3
Taking too much time on field

But that input always got dv timing

[spiral merlin]

5 + 5 is the safe no brain rot

[steady otter]

I dont get it dude
5+5 5+3 5+4

[spiral merlin]

Stacks

[steady otter]

Tell me more specifics

[spiral merlin]

Lilith ult gains power with stacks like wata

You say (yellow + red) x 3 that's 5 stack rota

Yellow x3 red is 3 stack

Everything in between is a combination of yellows and reds

[verbal trout]

so I finally 580k Huaxu with Qu

I guess Sigless S Qu isn't bad as it initially seem if i just swap her in from someone else?

[steady otter]

Wait, SS3 can 5 stack ?

[foggy ridge]

ur more insane than me

[spiral merlin]

5 stack should be innate to kit

Or maybe low ranks idk

Big card slash attack is +3 stacks

Everything else is +1

[peak halo]

no i just watch back my feral inident with a w18 bear

[shadow holly]

thats kinda the issue, because solo onfielding qu is by far the most efficient option right now, considering how hard she gaps everyone else on the ice team dps wise

[verbal trout]

actually how cooked am i with using this qu? I get that i'm definitely not ulting with her more than once but at least i got SS Kaleido doing some damage?

[verbal trout]

bruh

but also oof

yeah im broke out of ping orb after a Qu ult

this sucks

[shadow holly]

but yeah unless shes ss and has sig at the very least ur kinda forced to swap
so it is what it is

[verbal trout]

tis still better than plume tho right

[spiral merlin]

Anything better than plume

[verbal trout]

i only managed to improve my ice related scores by a tiny bit

[buoyant hornet]

Mob wz became less frequent in later updates no?

[rocky wedge]

swear words

many swear words

[spiral merlin]

My favourite

[sterile lily]

qu without wep and with wep has heaven and earth difference

she actually feels unplayable lmao

[verbal trout]

and yet i need to get her anyway because if I don't she'll be MUCH HARDER TO GET

can i please skip a new S rank just once pls

[sterile lily]

oh ye definitely, especially if u need to back pull

[glass bay]

Time to do legend wz

I'm about to be cooked

[spiral merlin]

Never

[woven haven]

lmao no

[jade quest]

Is qu shakura’s banner going away in 2nd Jan?

[median spade]

yeah

[glass bay]

Yes

[buoyant hornet]

Love when this happens

[jade quest]

Is getting the weapon important

[median spade]

yeah

[glass bay]

Yes

[foggy ridge]

nice joke

[sterile lily]

very

[shadow holly]

nice, 2nd jan
just in time for the true devs listened game to get 2.0

[sterile lily]

i wouldnt even recommend using her without wep

[jade quest]

☠️

[upper egret]

now which game would that be

because surely it wouldn't be wuwa

[buoyant hornet]

P much but keep in mind weapon banner is permanent, S rank debut character banner isn't

[sterile lily]

but hey weapon lasts for ever

[shadow holly]

[jade quest]

It does???

[glass bay]

Fk up > fix > devs listened

[jade quest]

Got me worried

[sterile lily]

yup, weapon banner is permanent so no worries get qu now

[buoyant hornet]

Also qu only NEEDS her 6* wep for solo, she can manage with 5* when wanshi the ice tank is out but will he considerably weaker

Istg people will have clapped invests in synchro the meta will change so much lmao

[foggy ridge]

theres no inbetween now. its quite literally low vs high invests

[verbal trout]

yeah but when do i get to get to pull that

I'm guessing never

[rocky wedge]

🤡

[foggy ridge]

wow whel

[zenith thorn]

legitimately i have a question for proverty invest players

[rocky wedge]

man both fire and ion lucia is so tight on timing Dx

[buoyant hornet]

F2p get enough bc in the long run to pull some sigs dw

[zenith thorn]

do you guys swap ice with 5* qu or nah

[verbal trout]

how many sigs per new S-ranks 😭

[zenith thorn]

it's probably still solp

but man that sh*t gotta be awful

[buoyant hornet]

Watch haloist on youtube

Awful score threshold compared to solo but wanshi will make 5* qu usable thankfully

[zenith thorn]

i asked that specific question because i saw that dude video lmfao

[quartz dove]

Kr winning or eos ?

[zenith thorn]

like swapping ice sounds so godamn awful
but at the same time it's crippled proverty invest

so idk

[buoyant hornet]

He did a comparison video but idr if it was solo qu or just single rot vs double rot

[spiral merlin]

I think ion is worse because you just get literally no dmg if you fail

[zenith thorn]

i actually don't know how good that dude actually is tbh

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah it's her only option, sigless qu doesn't get to solo because no free stack on ult so her orbs can't get refunded

[zenith thorn]

he probably got better now

[buoyant hornet]

He's insanely good at his invest

[glass bay]

honestly what if pgr gets alot more casual skin buyers and stuff

[zenith thorn]

oh nvm im stupid

[glass bay]

and flush out all meta slave

[zenith thorn]

that make sense

[buoyant hornet]

I was talking abt qu but I don't think so?

[zenith thorn]

yeah yeah i was being stupid dw

[zenith thorn]

ngl not a impossibility anyway

[glass bay]

maybe this is the real strat

[rocky wedge]

ye that part is funny and depressing

[glass bay]

arkhanium again in my bracket wtf

[zenith thorn]

azur lane is striving to pure skin and degeneracy anyway

like mf have you seen new agir skin

[glass bay]

pgr not azur lane tho

[zenith thorn]

just sayinnn

worse come to worse

generous gacha

beautiful skin

[buoyant hornet]

Looks like we'll all be using his channel as a reference during synchro lmao

[zenith thorn]

we?

i have enough bc idk about you

[verbal trout]

feeling depraved and needing more gacha pull currency in general

idk i'm just not feeling good over being on and off all the time and this is the first time where i felt trying to be around again and still struggling

at least i got most elements covered for realsies this time...

[buoyant hornet]

Welcome go gacha games, that's why pgr is my first and last gacha

[zenith thorn]

snazz whel reacted me it's so joever

[verbal trout]

i have a better time with HSR and Wuwa so this is a PGR specific problem

[rocky wedge]

ofc im f2p

[median spade]

same

[verbal trout]

i just didn't have a good time with the pressure of needing to get everyone (and having to wait what feels like forever to get there)

[rocky wedge]

look at me playing with 5 star weapon

the only one i use

[zenith thorn]

ok show us your glb account

[naive edge]

guys is there some sort of hub for PPC google docs? I could only find the SS version for now

[rocky wedge]

thats not even whale

my alisa is still SS

[unborn star]

Show me your bank acc transaction

[spiral merlin]

Look at this whel

[rocky wedge]

xD

always cause bianca sss zomg

[median spade]

bianca simps rise up

[visual wind]

Wow whel

[zenith thorn]

phat whel polluting my f2p ocean

[barren plank]

Should I perma migrate to WW
I wanna still play a combat game but at the same time I don't feel liek Kuro deserves anything

[rocky wedge]

ill be f2p again when she is leaped

[zenith thorn]

go back

[visual wind]

Im f2p

[zenith thorn]

me too akumalao

[visual wind]

Def the one got all the profit

[visual wind]

Doubt

[zenith thorn]

[buoyant hornet]

Do y'all think non sig luna meta will develop lol

Or is luna sig safer because she's early into synchro

[visual wind]

No right*

[zenith thorn]

links

[vale raft]

Useful Links

<:kuro:1290659729600937984> Officials

Website
Youtube
BiliBili

<:info:1290659678346285248> Wikis

Gray Ravens
Bili Wiki

:book: Lore

Huaxu Stories

:link: Community Links

Huaxu
Zexous' Meta Spreadsheet
Rexlent Beginner YT Playlist
Setsu's Harmo Spreadsheet v2

:calendar_spiral: Planning

BC Planner
PGR Packs

<:exppc:1290659786500739192> Phantom Pain Cage

SS Ultimate
SSS Ultimate
S+ Ultimate
Advanced PPC Spreadsheet
PPC Boss Rotations

<:hero_wz:1290664158240440331> Warzone

Advanced Warzone Tips

:file_cabinet: Outdated Resources

Character 'Tier List by Doomy'
Comprehensive Character Builds
Resource Calculator
Coatings Acquisition

[shadow holly]

also theyre in the faq section post

https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/1221664853878636545

[visual wind]

after plume sig and daren ss3, meta nowaday need sig, cub and ss3 to have their 60% QoL unlocked

[barren plank]

Id say Luna is even more sig reliant than Qu

[visual wind]

Oh and Qu is on wheelchair without sig

[zenith thorn]

i love girls on wheelchair

[lunar lava]

Yes

[verbal trout]

am i reading this PPC rankings wrong or do you actuallly need to be around for like, 2 patches worth of PPC just to SS someone?

[zenith thorn]

~~i will lick that belly ~~

[visual wind]

You can hammer girl on a wheel chair cuz plexible

[lunar lava]

Now that you mention it. That is really something

[median spade]

depends on how well you rank

[zenith thorn]

Luna is so er-

[buoyant hornet]

Well kinda

[verbal trout]

30-70%?

[median spade]

good luck at mcdonalds brother

[visual wind]

10 week if you have 50 skull per week

[zenith thorn]

bro just told someone to work at mcd and pay for pgr now 😭🙏

just put the onion rings in the bag lil bro

[verbal trout]

live 3rd worlder reaction

[median spade]

nah just a bad habit of saying that with friends

[verbal trout]

an american putting the fries in the bag for an hour feeds us for a few days 😭

[zenith thorn]

currency power goes crazy

[buoyant hornet]

Same I'd be a light spender if it wasn't for my currency being worse than cogs in value

[visual wind]

Wow

[visual wind]

Time for inflation

[zenith thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/kg-pgr-selena-gif-9375503877926269606

[nova forum]

When will PPC LB get removed?

[zenith thorn]

next patch

probably

[nova forum]

Void Luna patch?

[zenith thorn]

i mean

they wouldn't be removed

[nova forum]

Not talking about onslaught

[zenith thorn]

but the skull rewards aren't tied to the rankings anymore

[nova forum]

Ye I mean that

[zenith thorn]

lb still exist for flexing purpose

then Luna patch
next patch

the tripatch

idk

the eos patch

[digital moat]

end of suffering

[median spade]

on a more serious note assuming no extra skulls from achievements starting from 0
14 weeks 50-70%
12 weeks 30-50%
11 weeks 10-30%
10 weeks 5-10%
9 weeks 1-5%

8 weeks 1%

[zenith thorn]

tbf the rankings are going to be irrelevant in a week or so

better count your avrg point now

think 50skull is like 1.65m lr smth

[shadow holly]

"suffering" and its the only enjoyable thing in the game

[zenith thorn]

i forgot

[digital moat]

[zenith thorn]

do you know what is enjoyable
styling on hetero mother with crimson weave

twins Vs vergil

[rocky wedge]

badabing badaboom

legend 3/6 mob zone

[dapper skiff]

Random bullsht*t go

[rocky wedge]

can probably go even more, the rot is pretty hard to get the timing down

[dapper skiff]

(Void) Luna team be like

[unborn star]

1 year of suffering before every server is on sync 💀

[zenith thorn]

why does void luna looks a bit weird

[unborn star]

🥹

[rocky wedge]

10mil in legend and thats with ion and dark using a 5 star weapon daren xD tho there is also fire this rot

[unborn star]

After server sync is accomplished leak content gonna be peak must go for content 💯

Just like WuWa currently have big issue with leak

[dapper skiff]

She's on a diet

Dw about it

[zenith thorn]

:naruhodo:

[digital moat]

How is even leak content for cn server

Since they get betas for like 2 weeks

• half/full anni just teasing future content

[unborn star]

Leak for content 1 year ahead ofc

Something even the dev isn't yet to think about it,fr

[glass bay]

legend players getting double my score, no point to even play

[zenith thorn]

that's call foresight

something we wouldn't have anymore

because stu-

[dreamy pelican]

54 skulls reliably is around 1.7 for sea iirc

#stuckon54gang

[zenith thorn]

i HATE these WHALES gatekeeping me from entering ELITE

i hope they all die

[shadow holly]

he was talking about the score based rewards post ppc rework i think

[barren plank]

Why is Selena so old there

[dreamy pelican]

ahhh mb

[zenith thorn]

ya

[dreamy pelican]

elite

[zenith thorn]

i got that sh*t saved

somewhere idk where but somewhere

[glass bay]

I really wana pull feral wep...

It's so bricked without

[dreamy pelican]

just dodge lightning

WOAH

[glass bay]

I saw that

[zenith thorn]

u dirty whel snazz

[glass bay]

Fk whel

[rocky wedge]

ready for nanami

[zenith thorn]

my f2p god is a fake f2p

dream crushed,idol destroyed and hope crumbled

[dreamy pelican]

honestly just dodge lightning

[glass bay]

I'll dodge u

[dreamy pelican]

its a bit scuffed, but it gets the job done

[tight tangle]

Should i harmonize Feral or Luna later?

[zenith thorn]

dodging like the way im dodging the police

[zenith thorn]

vpid luna

[dreamy pelican]

luna ig? is there a point to harmonizing feral rn

[zenith thorn]

dps will have the priority as usual

newest character

[dreamy pelican]

i dont think there's a point to harmonizing feral... ever

[zenith thorn]

what you don't want 4heisen feral?

[shadow holly]

harmo feral is great, its just that lightning is cringe

[zenith thorn]

nanami will fix lightning

[dreamy pelican]

i forgot thats a thing ive been content with sigless feral for so long now

[zenith thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1113554666366709861/1289385251046559804/1289053282735751199.gif

[dreamy pelican]

nanami's gonna put cw on qte duty

[zenith thorn]

amen

god is real

[dreamy pelican]

oh my god man i hate lightning so much

ive been soloing on cw since she came out, now i have to solo nanami for the foreseeable future

feral aint NEVER seeing the light of day

[median spade]

nanami is cute though

[dreamy pelican]

feral is cute too

guess who's not getting a second of screentime

[median spade]

feral's laugh during her ult is pretty cute but nanami's voice lines during ult are cuter

[zenith thorn]

ARUTIMETO SPEKTAKURU YAAAAAA

[dreamy pelican]

ARUTIMETTO SUPEKTAKURUUUU

YAAAAAAA

[median spade]

YAAAAAAAAAAAA

[sturdy halo]

can't believe balter's sig is now a boss in wuwa

[abstract heron]

https://tenor.com/view/punishing-gray-raven-pgr-nanami-knight-nanami-startrail-nanami-pgr-gif-15007510645541421108

[median spade]

https://tenor.com/view/punishing-gray-raven-nanami-gif-24505739

[tight tangle]

Lightning suck to play

[normal bluff]

There's Noctis

[tight tangle]

Tickles mobs

[median spade]

i saw that

[dreamy pelican]

[dapper skiff]

Shivers me timbers

Tickle me pickles

[abstract heron]

skill issue i would say

https://tenor.com/view/nanami-nanami-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-nanami-burger-gif-3426560742319433332

[nova forum]

You "would?"

To who

[zenith thorn]

me

[abstract heron]

that's right

[nova forum]

I must cease then

Nobody loves me

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/hilicurls-genshin-impact-hilicurls-dance-dance-gif-19450240

[zenith thorn]

i can love you too lao

[tight tangle]

[abstract heron]

are you sure, pookie?

[nova forum]

Yes

If you love me then prove it by giving me funds on pgr

[zenith thorn]

too f2p to relate

[abstract heron]

i'm f2p mate, try asking jeremey instead

[digital moat]

They may not be able give funds

Ask for something else

[nova forum]

Jer too busy handling insider's connection

[nova forum]

I have hands and access to the internet

so no

[digital moat]

but r u still single

[glass bay]

[nova forum]

I'm not in a rush

[digital moat]

[paper minnow]

hi! i'm new to the game, is there like a tierlist or something? Can't really find reliable info

[digital moat]

We dont really have a tierlist

[paper minnow]

so you just play whatever is fun?

[digital moat]

Since you need all newest S ranks for metawise competition

you play all

[paper minnow]

awesome, thank you c:

[median spade]

delete this

[digital moat]

Anyways If you are f2p allocate your funds to get 1 copy of all newest s rank releases

If you end up with extra funds you can come here to ask what to do with it

[paper minnow]

oh its not like you main a few chars or something?

[digital moat]

As well as what to do with other free selectors and standard 100% rate up

[digital moat]

You need all S ranks

[paper minnow]

and why is that? :o

[digital moat]

You can get the newest ones as you go, do not backpull

[nova forum]

There is no "main" in this game

[digital moat]

The competitive side of the game wants every single element to be at at least f2p investment to get good scores

Or decent

[nova forum]

Everyone need something or other units to efficiently do a stage

[normal bluff]

My noctis is the victor, therefor Noctis>CW

[visual topaz]

i forgor alpha swimsuit skin no katana skin?

[digital moat]

Also permanent periodic content wants good teams to be cleared easily

They are not that too hard but still

[paper minnow]

okay so get the latest S ranks and don't backpull?

[lament yoke]

Yeah

[paper minnow]

that's.. weird
but okay, thanks!

[lament yoke]

Why is it weird

[visual wind]

Damn your noctis more powerful than my wata

[visual wind]

There wont be enough resources to backpull

[visual topaz]

[visual wind]

And since there are synch patches coming along, its better to have new character than old ones

[paper minnow]

I come from wuthering waves, where there's not that much powercreep
so maxing a few chars is usually fine for the upcoming content

[visual wind]

Wuwa was like 6 months

This shiet is 4 years alredi

[digital moat]

Pgr going on an even more accelerated schedule than before to catch up all old units will be powercrept faster

[paper minnow]

okies! thanks for the answers guys c:

[digital moat]

Any way of paying for old units is not a good choice unless it's free

[nova forum]

Is there even any way to get lamia if not through base banner? (pre refresh)

[digital moat]

There should be a char redeem for whels like u

[visual wind]

20k rc to exchange her from choice shop

and 30k rc

[nova forum]

[paper minnow]

oh I cant use my wuwa credentials for pgr?

[median spade]

[crimson smelt]

[lunar lava]

Very smart

[zenith kernel]

Ambatukuraimaksu😔

[abstract heron]

poor soul

[quartz dove]

If i can do that i already have jinhsi s6 bozo

[quiet pawn]

do u guy know when will Lucia Crimson Weave, Signature Weapon and her CUB be free?

[paper minnow]

the loginthingy says Kuro games, thought I could log in with the kuro account

[barren plank]

Ishmael patch

Tho she'll be useless by then

[quiet pawn]

with Feral?

[barren plank]

Yes

[quiet pawn]

No. 21 Feral

[barren plank]

mhm

[lament yoke]

Umbrasurge? Or lighting? Whos going to replace her?

[spiral merlin]

Useless as in qte bot

[barren plank]

There is no umbrasurge team as of yet but when it does come she will be used there

[spiral merlin]

She's still umbrasurge main dps

[barren plank]

In lightning tho she's more or less useless unless SSS minimum

And even then ur scores will fluctuate

[lament yoke]

I see. Didn't know Qte bot would be useless, is it just for filling slots?

[crimson smelt]

What's coming up for fire and dork that would creep the current pool

[median spade]

doesn't lightning still rotate on nanami downtime

[crimson smelt]

thinking about just sandbagging until eos

[median spade]

global pool or cn? pyroath and lilth are things we don't have yet for those teams

[zenith kernel]

Eh, they're not useless (tank and Amp)
Qte bots are very much needed for buffing/debuffing
Only attacker qte bots are useless

Only*

[barren plank]

Pyroath comes around April or May, replaces Hyperreal
Daemonissa comes around October(?), replaces Capriccio

[lament yoke]

Because their Qtes don't provide any buffs, i guess?

[zenith kernel]

Ditto

[willow steppe]

Are there any free sig selectors in future?

[crimson smelt]

@median spade

[barren plank]

No

[willow steppe]

Btw is the game ending after lilith

[median spade]

no

[barren plank]

no

[willow steppe]

What character is coming?

[median spade]

selena will save us once again

[crimson smelt]

there is a low but not zero chance game will end with every refresh

[jade quest]

Does the event record give any rewards?

[barren plank]

We dunno
But this game is not gonna EoS entirely

[willow steppe]

Ofc

[median spade]

thats just like the odds of the world ending!

[willow steppe]

Probably stsrt pgr 2.0 or something

[barren plank]

Would kms

[dapper skiff]

Lmao no

[willow steppe]

I would do that even if it didnt

[dapper skiff]

Qte bot is mandatory

[crimson smelt]

can't wait to pay for the bots I already have a second time

[jade quest]

Y’all does the event record give any rewards ???

[barren plank]

All events give alot of them

Go do em

[round viper]

any guides for voodoo with SS0 lamia and A rank supports?

[jade quest]

I don’t see the rewards claim in this one

[barren plank]

Oh I thought u meant the actual events

uuuuuh the event stories give some CUB tickets on select stages but not much else

[willow steppe]

Pgr should only rerun old characters after main game story ends for sometime or like some months

[normal bluff]

Wowza, I thought my characters were weak compared to anyone in this server

[jade quest]

So no black tickets

[barren plank]

No

[jade quest]

Or event tickets

[barren plank]

It gives CUB tickets that's worth smth

[jade quest]

What does cub mean

[barren plank]

The pets that u use in battle

[jade quest]

So character tickets

[barren plank]

No

The CUBs are essentially pets u can equip that so some damage onfield but more importantly supply ridiculous buffs

[jade quest]

I see

[lament yoke]

So anyone who can trigger a qte and can hold dv and on top of that, provide some buffs. Thats all they're there for, right?

As for CW in that lightning team(she's subdps), she would provide any buffs? Idk, shes a dps.

So she's just there to fill the slot, right?
Soon we'll have a CW replacement for lightning team?

[barren plank]

Especially the more recent ones

[willow steppe]

Are there any character selectors except luna patch?

[barren plank]

Anyone can use DV, it's not relegated to a specific element or skill

But at that point just Garnet or a second healer or smth

[normal bluff]

Feral Lux

[lament yoke]

Mostly supports though, right?

[woven haven]

she just has QTE DMG x11 at SSS + Leap

[barren plank]

Hard to say, it really depends on the team and siutation

[lament yoke]

And in this case where CW's job is to be a Qte bot, she would be holding DV too?

[woven haven]

that's all there is

[lament yoke]

X11? Like increase her own qte dmg by 11 times or buffs teamwide Qte by 11x?

[barren plank]

Teamwide QTE damage

[lament yoke]

Wth

Tf

Why is a dps buffing team??

Is it common in this game?

[barren plank]

Cuz they designed her leap like that to at least provide SOME off-field benefit

Pyroath QTE does a lot of damage too

I think QTE damage is a new mechanic they're testing out

[lament yoke]

I see, that's something new

[visual wind]

No, if anycase AlphaCW is demoted to a qte bot there are others qte bot better than her

[barren plank]

But since u need SSS to do this anyway just stick to to solo Nanaknight and run either Garnet or second amp

[visual wind]

(she doesn't buff anything)

[barren plank]

Hell even Lux would be better

[thorn creek]

Quitting this game is even better

[visual wind]

That is everyone doing

[upper egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1240599200618512426.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=selenayes

[median spade]

we love pgr

[thorn creek]

I only love lamia, not this game

[upper egret]

i'm simply devoid of love

[normal bluff]

Noctis and Entropy gaming

[median spade]

i could fix you

[upper egret]

not if i break you first

[lament yoke]

So the lightning team would be startrail/X/feral scent ?

[dapper skiff]

Don't even bother

He sniff feets

[median spade]

me too

[dapper skiff]

Both irl and digital

[upper egret]

[upper egret]

cw/garnet as qte bots

varies depending on investment levels

[mighty tusk]

👀

[upper egret]

playstyle is gonna be solo nanaknight for most people but it could be swap if you have sss and above on both feral and cw

[mighty tusk]

Send help guys

[lament yoke]

Why solo? Im new so idk why would solo be better

[dapper skiff]

Wym

[deft apex]

omg selena teaser

[dapper skiff]

R u sure you're not seeing things rn

[lament yoke]

Shouldn't any random qte be atleast better than no teammates at all?

[dapper skiff]

[upper egret]

to put it simply, because swapping to the others would be a large dps loss due to the difference in strength between the units

[deft apex]

is that an harp?

[dapper skiff]

Better take dem pills before too late

[deft apex]

[deft apex]

i'm going full schizo mode

[upper egret]

no solo means using one unit as the dps and not swapping, with two other units as qte bots

[median spade]

is "selena" in the room with us now?

[upper egret]

so you'll still have a full team, only that you won't swap between them in the fight itself

[lament yoke]

Oh i thought solo would be one char team, thanks for clarifying

[upper egret]

np

[deft apex]

yes

[mighty tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278228053754908684/1289370470361206837/1003604575007277116.gif

[lament yoke]

Im supposed to get four 3 pings in shukra's ult.
But, i can't for some reason, i just run out of orbs or they dont match.

Is it rng?

[mighty tusk]

Is shukra ss? Or below that?

[lament yoke]

S

[mighty tusk]

Yeah not happening

[lament yoke]

...

[mighty tusk]

Need ss for that

I've used shukra at s5 before

When I reached ss, I only needed to do 3-ping in ult as opposed to 4 pings on ult at s5