📨・meta-help

[shadow holly]

[next dock]

Close to just going back to getting one single copy of the character and vibing with it just for fun

[azure barn]

everyone is gonna be lacking resources cuz of the synchro plan forcing people to spend 3x or 2x to keep up

[next dock]

I mean, i'm not a spender

The most i do is buy the battle pass

[rose yew]

3x more cogs?

[rose yew]

yes and what do you spend to buy it

[crimson smelt]

synchro takes away time for bp to accumulate

[azure barn]

welp that means you don't even have the ability to have everyone at decent invest in the first place (unless you luccsacc)

[next dock]

I heard something about having everyone at SS is "expectable" for f2p

[dapper skiff]

Tbh

That "decent" invest alone is gonna be enough to take some to legend tbh

Maybe not in eu

But it could

[azure barn]

well yeah, but then we get like 4 S Ranks in a row to worry about ranking up to SS

[crimson smelt]

true whales wont care about synchro, puking a lot of content at once is not good for long term game health

[azure barn]

then the 4th banner is speculated to be New Selena

[dapper skiff]

Even legend is doable with ss0 and sig rn as low as with cub and 1 reso for dps

[next dock]

Aren't PPC frags being tripled too?

[dapper skiff]

Retain still difficult ofc

[azure barn]

that's with the context of tripling patches in one version

[azure barn]

imagine we get ALL THREE in one patch

[crimson smelt]

kancole had longevity problems when they ran out of famous ships and started releasing random patrol boats

[azure barn]

you have to worry about getting these 3 S Ranks to SS in one patch if they actually go inside one patch all together

sounds fun amirite

[next dock]

I think they are not that stupid

[shadow holly]

[wispy robin]

you would struggle to get both nanami and ish to ss even before catch up

[azure barn]

^ exactly

[azure barn]

even without the synchro plan the issue is still there

[next dock]

What if i absolutely ignore Nanam- i see

[shadow mica]

I mean..... have you seen what they're already doing?

[azure barn]

The whole plan is proof of their stupidity

EoS speedrun fr

[next dock]

As a nearly f2p person, i struggle to see problems buuuut i understand

[azure barn]

that's because only the spenders are affected

F2Ps are completely fine

[quartz dove]

4s s rank back to back with sync

[azure barn]

it's as if nothing changed for them

[crimson smelt]

dolphin spenders are affected

[quartz dove]

Theyre actually not

[next dock]

May i ask why?

[azure barn]

if you're talking about KR not getting triple dailies, I heard a fix is on the way

[quartz dove]

U still get overall less bc

[azure barn]

wait what why

[next dock]

🔍

[crimson smelt]

[azure barn]

oh wait is this because of the integrated patch duration being minimized

[shadow mica]

Dear Commandants,

Due to low income of the Punishing Gray Raven Global server, we regret to inform you that service of the game in the Global region will come to an end. Servers will be taken offline as of 22/09/2025.

Thank you for all of your support.

[dreamy pelican]

LETS GOOOO

[crimson smelt]

I'm free

[dreamy pelican]

[next dock]

Who's up to open a private server

[azure barn]

Hop on GFL2 and goon with me

[dreamy pelican]

[crimson smelt]

Old School Grey Raven

[wispy robin]

we don't get x3 the maint rewards for starters and that's only a tip of the iceberg

[azure barn]

yikes forgot about the maintenance

net loss of 300 or 600 depending on the integrated patches

[crimson smelt]

[next dock]

Also i forgot to ask

Is there anyway to access the CN server without VPN or stuff? Kinda wanted to take a look there

[dreamy pelican]

there is, but it's a bit finnicky

[next dock]

Mind sharing?

[wispy robin]

you only need to sell your soul to ccp give it or take it

[dreamy pelican]

this, essentially

[next dock]

wa

[dreamy pelican]

you have to, one way or another, send personal information to make an account

[shadow holly]

damn yall add me frfr
21237

[crimson smelt]

Don't you need a Chinese phone for that too

[shadow holly]

depends on which way u make an account

[dreamy pelican]

from the way i did it, no

[crimson smelt]

Wo ai, bing chilling

[next dock]

I guess this is one of those situations were it's just too much of a pain to be worth it

I think one of my friends is chinese tho, i could ask him maybe (?)

[dreamy pelican]

wo bu shi zhongguo ren

wait i think i messed up the romaji abit

there we go

i think

[ashen edge]

[azure barn]

are y'all on Darkwinter tho

[shadow holly]

ofc imagine being on h*oplay

[azure barn]

[shadow holly]

[azure barn]

more like hoeplay amirite

[shadow holly]

haoplay got actually human banner drop times tho

[steady otter]

[crimson smelt]

never going back to the days of playing 4 gachas simultaneously f2p, 5 if you counted idolmaster

[foggy ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/asdf-movie-punt-kick-donewiththis-gif-26537188

[dreamy pelican]

unemployment final boss

[visual wind]

At this point of gacha addiction i might need to move to real life addiction in gambling

[foggy ridge]

very puntable

[crimson smelt]

6 if you counted university

[visual wind]

Gonna buy stock market

[quartz dove]

[crimson smelt]

the random grades I get from sandbagging were the gacha

[zenith thorn]

compensation is only 2k
1k less than if integration is day1

[azure barn]

WHAT

[zenith thorn]

... allegedly

[azure barn]

if that's true then damn

much worse than I thought

[zenith thorn]

the whole synco is stupid anyway

[hidden forum]

@shadow holly my intrusive thoughts are starting to tell me to v6 wa

[shadow holly]

[hidden forum]

But I’ll wait to see the next banner

[zenith thorn]

synchronization?
you mean schizophrenia of kuro winning spenders

so out of touch fr

[lethal sun]

[quartz dove]

Already move on to gfl ?

[hidden forum]

Already did

[lethal sun]

Moving to the true Gooner platoon

[hidden forum]

I like how suomi flashes her assets at me whenever I use her ult with swimsuit skin

[lethal sun]

I like the sharky

[zenith thorn]

gfl gooner game

sign me up

[hidden forum]

got her v6 too

By chance

[lethal sun]

[visual wind]

Need sum luck

[shadow holly]

yea my sharky v6 too

[quartz dove]

The dalao whel have abandoned pgr

[stuck sphinx]

Hi

[barren plank]

Bro look at KR

[stuck sphinx]

Pgr abandoned us

[barren plank]

Actual ghost town there

YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHT UP

[quartz dove]

Check again today

Surely its diffrent

[barren plank]

I took this SS just now

Go check Huaxu if u dont believe me

[quartz dove]

NO WAY STILL 7 PLAYER

[distant wren]

saturday too lmao

[quartz dove]

Bro they legit gonna eos

And only 142 hero

[barren plank]

Yea KR is NOT making it to the end of next year

[barren plank]

@lunar lava @stray siren

[stuck sphinx]

What is it last week

[barren plank]

No it's this week

Last week had 22 players

[stuck sphinx]

No what is it last week

22

[quartz dove]

[stuck sphinx]

Check ppc

[barren plank]

Uuuuhhh Huaxu doesn't show Onslaught rankings

[distant wren]

before reset on wednesday kr legend had 22

[visual wind]

I think the stat isn't consistent right now. Just wait by sunday

[stray siren]

젠장 쿠로

[thorn creek]

Imma riot

[barren plank]

Ur not rioting until u buy me BP

With sync u are funding all of us from now on

[stuck sphinx]

Buy my gfl2 bp

[thorn creek]

sunuvah it didn't work

[sand laurel]

meawhile, glazing in the other realm (wuwa-only ytber)

[wispy robin]

pgr ruined gachas by making everyone f2p

[wispy robin]

tried to tl the page...

[barren plank]

Some of them have Solon no mom 💀

[thorn creek]

They didn't try to understand our 'burden'.

Now, we can no longer 'understand'.
-Punishing: Gray Raven Korean server users-

Punishing Korean server users express serious concerns about the integrated version provided by Kuro Games and your company's operation, and hereby state the following in order to urge improvement of the issues.

[Poor community management and lack of communication]

The official community of the Korean server has had and still has several problems.
When it comes to posting notices, the posting date is not regular, the format is not consistent in quality, and there are problems where content that was announced on the previous server is omitted.

When responding to user inquiries and feedback, they show an unclear attitude in expressing the current situation and position, and there are also cases where they consistently do not respond.

[Unreasonable integrated version operation]
The Korean server, the first to operate the integrated version of Kuro Games, is currently facing several critical problems. Before applying the unified version, there were circumstances where important matters were discussed through secret meetings with a limited number of users, giving the impression that the opinions of all Korean server users were excluded.

Of course, there is a payback system that is only applied to the Korean server, but it is too weak to alleviate the burden.
As a result, all Korean server users are currently bearing a serious financial burden and the resulting loss of game experience.
This is completely opposite to what Kuro Games CEO Solon announced in a previous video, and it even makes users wonder if there was no plan or roadmap for the unified plan.

The game company's opaque operation and lack of communication are seriously damaging the game ecosystem and undermining the trust of users. All Korean server users who are aware of the above issues are demanding the following:

I riot

fresh copypasta from KR server

[steady otter]

[stray siren]

you are missing the other half

[thorn creek]

my poor as s can't afford nitro

wait i'll just post in segments

[floral plover]

[rose yew]

7 player kr

[harsh cave]

Bleeehhh

Heyya, guys

[thorn creek]

They didn't try to understand our 'burden'.

Now, we can no longer 'understand'.

-Punishing: Gray Raven Korean server users-

Punishing Korean server users express serious concerns about the integrated version provided by Kuro Games and your company's operation, and hereby state the following in order to urge improvement of the issues.

[Poor community management and lack of communication]

The official community of the Korean server has had and still has several problems.

When it comes to posting notices, the posting date is not regular, the format is not consistent in quality, and there are problems where content that was announced on the previous server is omitted.

When responding to user inquiries and feedback, they show an unclear attitude in expressing the current situation and position, and there are also cases where they consistently do not respond.

It is judged that all of this is due to the current GM's reckless operation and management, and it is a serious problem across the entire game.

[Unreasonable integrated version operation]

The Korean server, the first to operate the integrated version of Kuro Games, is currently facing several critical problems.

Before applying the unified version, it was discovered that important matters were discussed through secret meetings with a limited number of users, giving the impression that the opinions of all Korean server users were excluded.

However, even such secret meetings had no meaning, and a very conservative policy was promoted that simply doubled the basic rewards.

Of course, there is a payback system that is only applied to the Korean server, but it is too weak to alleviate the burden.

As a result, all Korean server users are currently bearing the serious financial burden and the resulting loss of game experience.

[harsh cave]

Jesus Christ...

[thorn creek]

This is completely opposite to what Kuro Games CEO Solon announced in a previous video, and it even makes users wonder if there was no plan or roadmap for the unified plan.

If this version unification plan includes server integration with the previous server, this type of operation method will never lead to the successful completion of the plan.

The game company's opaque operation and lack of communication are seriously damaging the game ecosystem and undermining the trust of users.

All Korean server users who are aware of the above issues demand the following:

First, regarding community management and communication,

second, regularly post to the community, consistently provide high-quality formats, and continuously deliver game and communication information to users without omission.

third, establish a response system such as establishing procedures and recruiting personnel to quickly respond to user feedback.

fourth, introduce a transparent and open communication method for public meetings or quarterly communication with users, so that communication notes can be written periodically, and feedback from users on the game and operation can be quickly compiled and reported, and rapid improvements can be made. Actively communicate with users, and do not consistently ignore user inquiries, but treat them as customers, and do not discriminate between customers. In addition, do not tolerate processes of making modifications without responding or notifying.

fifth, we will take responsible measures from the headquarters regarding the current GM and the person in charge of the Korean server operation. 97.4% of users want to replace the person in charge, but if it is structurally difficult, we will present and implement an official statement from the person in charge and a detailed plan for future improvement and response.

Second, regarding the operation of the integrated version,

First, we will reexamine and prepare a reasonable compensation plan for the problems caused by the shortened lifespan and period of the game content.

second, we will transparently disclose the overall compensation plan for the version integration process and the roadmap until the version integration project ends, rather than just briefly explaining the new version contents, so that users can be convinced. We will also allow for adjustments and optimizations based on user feedback.

[thorn creek]

third. If there are any changes to the roadmap or detailed plan in the future, we will disclose them promptly and in detail.

fourth. We will also confirm whether we are aiming for server integration with overseas pre-existing servers and disclose it transparently.

Finally, we request an official statement from Kuro Games that includes the above content.

Please post the statement on the official cafe / official X / official Discord within 14 days from the start of the statement announcement, including Kuro Games' current awareness of the problem, the cause of the problem, our position on it, response measures, follow-up measures, and operating policy.

As loyal users of the game, we demand and hope for immediate and practical improvements to the above issues.

__

All Korean server users will continue to send statements until Kuro Games' official statement is announced.

If there is no notice or the notice deadline is not met, we will judge that Kuro Games has no intention to improve the current situation, and accordingly, all users who participated in the statement will stop purchasing all products from Punishing: Gray Raven in the future.

In addition, if there is no indication of meaningful improvement through the official statement, we will also stop purchasing.

All users on the Korean server have already trusted and waited for a long time.

Now it is Kuro Games' turn.

We look forward to your quick and wise response.

[stray siren]

mods, ping this

[thorn creek]

I AM SO SMART

my rioting is done

[visual wind]

damn but do solon read this?

[floral plover]

you wish

[crimson smelt]

"sorry don't understand korean-smida"

[floral plover]

"no CN no important" -Kuro

[thorn creek]

"U no doctor yet"

[floral plover]

u doctor in development
still no doctor

[thorn creek]

I AM

https://tenor.com/view/the-good-doctor-shaun-murphy-freddie-highmore-i-am-a-surgeon-surgeon-gif-10294805566573567111

[floral plover]

[stray siren]

Someone edit it with "i am f2p"

[barren plank]

https://tenor.com/view/autism-creature-autism-yippee-yippee-creature-tbh-creature-gif-13973309825992112839

[crimson smelt]

he says surgeon not doctor in that scene

[thorn creek]

erm i'm akshually gonna be a neurosurgeon in da future

[frozen creek]

Holy Eos

[stray siren]

[barren plank]

Im gonna be dead in the future

Lmao u will too

[dapper skiff]

Who isn't

[thorn creek]

nuh uh

[barren plank]

Uh huh

[dapper skiff]

Tf u mean Nuh uh

[thorn creek]

i will whel my way out of death

[dapper skiff]

Blud think he's the immortal snail

[stray siren]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-cat-gif-25407007

[crimson smelt]

only nanami will survive to the end of the universe

[pine slate]

make sure to send me ur photo so that i dont end up with u as my surgeon

[barren plank]

Btch u wanna whale ur way outta death but when I ask u for BP u say ur F2P

[thorn creek]

HUH?!?!?!

[barren plank]

The lies smh

[thorn creek]

erm dat's akshually only for my members in nnin's corner

[crimson hill]

I heard that KR event reward stuff isn't 3x?

[thorn creek]

only for those who don't diss me

[barren plank]

The evidence says otherwise

[stray siren]

They did it in stages, so, the first day and the first week you don't get everything x3

[thorn creek]

dafuk gaslighting

[crimson hill]

Ah okay

[frozen creek]

Stupid

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-cat-gif-25407007

[pine slate]

but the updated started on a monday

[stray siren]

and Kuro sent a notice that there would be compensation, 2 K BC for the error

[frozen creek]

If you’re not cn you’re getting shafted

[stray siren]

"Error"

[barren plank]

No gaslightning, only truth

[pine slate]

they didnt increase the daily bc tho did they?

or will it be increased next week

[frozen creek]

I think that’s next week

[stray siren]

idk

[frozen creek]

But it’s kuro

[floral plover]

They did but only 1.5, not x3 iirc

[thorn creek]

im buying one for everyone but u

[daring swallow]

They didn't try to understand our 'burden'.

Now, we can no longer 'understand'.
-Punishing: Gray Raven Korean server users-

Punishing Korean server users express serious concerns about the integrated version provided by Kuro Games and your company's operation, and hereby state the following in order to urge improvement of the issues.

[Poor community management and lack of communication]

The official community of the Korean server has had and still has several problems.
When it comes to posting notices, the posting date is not regular, the format is not consistent in quality, and there are problems where content that was announced on the previous server is omitted.

When responding to user inquiries and feedback, they show an unclear attitude in expressing the current situation and position, and there are also cases where they consistently do not respond.

It is judged that all of this is due to the current GM's reckless operation and management, and it is a serious problem across the entire game.

[Unreasonable integrated version operation]
The Korean server, the first to operate the integrated version of Kuro Games, is currently facing several critical problems. Before applying the unified version, there were circumstances where important matters were discussed through secret meetings with a limited number of users, giving the impression that the opinions of all Korean server users were excluded.
However, even such secret meetings had no meaning, and a very conservative policy was promoted that simply doubled the basic rewards.

Of course, there is a payback system that is only applied to the Korean server, but it is too weak to alleviate the burden.
As a result, all Korean server users are currently bearing a serious financial burden and the resulting loss of game experience.
This is completely opposite to what Kuro Games CEO Solon announced in a previous video, and it even makes users wonder if there was no plan or roadmap for the unified plan.

If this version unification plan includes server integration with the previous server, this type of operation method will never lead to the successful completion of the plan.

The game company's opaque operation and lack of communication are seriously damaging the game ecosystem and undermining the trust of users. All Korean server users who are aware of the above issues demand the following:
First, in terms of community management and communication,
One, regularly post to the community, consistently provide high-quality formats, and continuously deliver game and communication information to users without omission.
One, establish procedures for responding quickly to user feedback, and establish a response system such as recruiting personnel.
One, introduce a transparent and open communication method for public meetings or quarterly communication with users, so that communication notes can be written periodically, and feedback on the game and operation from users can be quickly compiled and reported, and rapid improvements can be made. Actively communicate with users, and do not consistently ignore user inquiries, but treat them as customers, and ensure that there is no discrimination between customers. In addition, we will not tolerate a process of making modifications without responding or notifying. First, the headquarters will take responsible measures against the current GM and the person in charge of operating the Korean server. 97.4% of users want to replace the person in charge, but if it is structurally difficult, the person in charge will provide an official explanation and present detailed future improvement and response measures.

Second, regarding the operation of the integrated version,
First, a reasonable compensation plan will be reexamined and prepared for problems arising from the shortened game content lifespan and period.

[thorn creek]

LETS GOOOOOOO

[daring swallow]

First, rather than simply briefly explaining the new version contents, the overall compensation plan for the version integration process and the roadmap until the version integration project ends will be transparently disclosed and users will be convinced. In addition, adjustments and optimizations will be made based on user feedback.
First, if there are any changes to the roadmap or detailed plan in the future, they will be disclosed promptly and in detail.
First, whether the goal is to integrate servers with overseas pre-existing servers will also be confirmed and transparently disclosed.

Finally, we request an official statement from Kuro Games that includes the above contents. In the statement, please include Kuro Games' current awareness of the problem, the cause of the problem, our position on it, response measures, follow-up measures, and operating policies, and post it on the official cafe / official X / official Discord within 14 days of the statement announcement date.

As loyal users of the game, we demand immediate and substantial improvements to the above issues.

__

All Korean server users will continue to send out statements until Kuro Games' official statement is announced.

If there is no announcement or the announcement deadline is not met, we will judge that Kuro Games has no intention to improve the current situation, and accordingly, all users who participated in the statement will stop purchasing all Punishing: Gray Raven products in the future.

In addition, if there is no sign of meaningful improvement through the official statement, we will also stop purchasing.

All Korean server users have already trusted and waited for a long time.
Now it is Kuro Games' turn.
We look forward to our quick and wise response.

[floral plover]

JAJSJSJSJS

[thorn creek]

I STARTED THE MOVEMENT

I AM THE PIONEER

I AM PGR JESUS

[floral plover]

no Kev don't be pgr Jesus, he dies at the enndd

[thorn creek]

dafuk spoiler

[frozen creek]

[thorn creek]

I havent reached that far in da bible

[frozen creek]

Kuro will assassinate you for speaking out

Be careful

[thorn creek]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-i-saw-what-u-deleted-i-saw-that-deleted-gus-fring-gif-27400959

[frozen creek]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-cat-gif-16534979835682612734

[thorn creek]

Gifts comes out when zex comes back

[floral plover]

isn't that like the chapter 2?
like, just after genesis?

[thorn creek]

I only stopped at the first line of the book

God said let there be light or something

[floral plover]

[stray siren]

u will di3 bro

[thorn creek]

SPOILER

resurrection arc doko?

[gilded flint]

Next patch, is the patch wata switches to class passive right?

[frozen creek]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-fresh-mr-fresh-cat-mr-waiting-for-food-gif-13207289690484641172

[gilded flint]

Or do I wait until pryoath then class?

[stray siren]

nope, until pyroath

[sand laurel]

https://tenor.com/g4UilAhBmGJ.gif

[rose yew]

iirc wata mem set changes entirely when oath comes

does wata run 4 shake 2 eins later

[stray siren]

But u need that set for Luna: 4 sig 4 Shakes 6 red 6 class

[floral plover]

4 sig 4 shakes nya

[wispy robin]

when you buy everyone bp and save glb server from eos

[rose yew]

[gilded flint]

Thank goodness, switching so many memory sets and trying to optimize wata solo make me pissed

[thorn creek]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346677

uhh gifts only go to ppl in my safe space discord server

And dis server ain't it

[stray siren]

send inv

[thorn creek]

uhhhh 2 months minimum

newbies don't qualify

[barren plank]

How's Hero 1.759M fire, 222 011 011

[frozen creek]

[barren plank]

SS invest is now whel, real

[carmine mesa]

Breddy good

[frozen creek]

State of pgr now

[stray siren]

it depends, rn no, after sync yes

[rose yew]

I'm getting around 1.3m with brs solo

[carmine mesa]

So long as you retain Hero, is goof

[barren plank]

What

[frozen creek]

Don’t question mikulao skill

[rose yew]

light is helping me maintain this round as much as I hate to admit it

[stuck sphinx]

ap?

[rose yew]

brs mas chart ap soon

wait did I already ap it

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/861180710508036096.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=DalaoSmash

[ripe stag]

Weak af fire ?

[rose yew]

no wata no hyper

[barren plank]

Ezra what did u get for fire

[ripe stag]

2m

[barren plank]

What the fck

Invest?

[ripe stag]

It can still go higher

[barren plank]

Oh SS3 Hyper

[zenith kernel]

https://youtu.be/yoA0-nQwet4?si=uhhtD84VnmMNXDls

@shadow holly @frank girder

[ripe stag]

SS0 hyper can do the same

Kurai did it

[barren plank]

What

[rose yew]

wantap light score?

[floral plover]

bruh what I got 1.98 with 2.322 111 111

[ripe stag]

Kurai's mald score is my one tap when it's fire

SS3 Hyper can boost the score even more

[steady otter]

4 shakes hyper stonk

[ripe stag]

Both of them are one tap

[rose yew]

[floral plover]

with ss3 hyper do you do the spread qtes like physical or still smash both at the same time?

[ripe stag]

I
Used Hyperreal against MD

[barren plank]

Bro I spent like forever malding to get 1.76 and ur telling me I could get 2M easily?

[ripe stag]

Look less effort to one shot him

[floral plover]

2.2

[ripe stag]

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/imdead-impossible-deadpool-skeleton-skeleton-meme-gif-17492754870724048069

[rose yew]

have you checked if your mems are intact

[restive grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1217217443123167343/nonomiburger-1.gif

[ripe stag]

Yea

[barren plank]

BRO THERE'S NO WAY IM THIS SKILL ISSUED

250K???

[floral plover]

I thought fire was my strong suit
now I wanna quit

[ripe stag]

I can reach wave 20

Need to properly play

[barren plank]

20????

I BARELY MADE IT TO 17

[ripe stag]

That's wave 19 cleared without wave 20 spawning in

[floral plover]

you went 4 guin or 2guin 2eins on empy?

[ripe stag]

[barren plank]

YES

[ripe stag]

4 guin 2 Eins

[zenith kernel]

Your light score should be higher

[floral plover]

no dv then?

[ripe stag]

I don't mald when it's lightning

I hate that entire team

[ripe stag]

Sorry sorry

4 dv 2 eins

[ripe stag]

I just woke up

[floral plover]

ntp jssj

[zenith kernel]

2.022.0 111 101

[floral plover]

I went 4 guin because it was mobs, but I guess it's better eins because of the fluctuation

[ripe stag]

101

I don't have that

[stray siren]

[ripe stag]

I have a total of 63% shred in Fire WTF

[zenith kernel]

Hm, still should be higher
Kuraisan I think has 183w with Solo cw+Qte chrome arc
Though I dunno if he used Harmo 21

[ripe stag]

[ripe stag]

Yea harmo feral

He did say his feral got harmo no?

[floral plover]

ye

though he did runs without harmo

[zenith kernel]

He disables for showcases so Idk if he had it up
Though he did get 164w with Brick Lux Qte

[floral plover]

Subjects:

• lux 4dv 2 guin, arclight 4 heisen 2 eins, solo ✅ 1.61m - wave14
• lux 4dv 2 guin, garn 4 tifa 2 eins, solo ✅ 1.54m - wave14
• feral 4 Fran 4 DV, arclight 4 heisen 2 eins, swap ✅ 1.50m - wave13
• feral 4dv 2 guin, garn 4 tifa 2 eins, solo ✅ 1.60m - wave14
• feral 4 DV 2 guin, arclight 4 heisen 2 eins, solo ✅ 1.80m - wave15
• feral 4 DV 4 Heisen, garnet 4 tifa 2 eins, ✅ 1.60m - wave 14
• feral 4 Fran 2 guin, garnet 4 tifa 2 eins, swap ✅ 1.63m - wave14
• feral 4 Fran 4 heisen, garnet 4 tifa 2 eins, swap ✅ 1.80m - wave15

Invest used:

• r0 ss0 garnet
• r0 ss0 feral S cub
• 5* sss0 arclight

All of the scores are wave based, improvement still can be made for 30k ro 40k score more but reaching to a new wave would require higher resos and harmo investment

[ripe stag]

Imma try

[floral plover]

there

[ripe stag]

Imma try

How to play solo CW again ?

[barren plank]

Should I swap out Fran for Heisen

[zenith kernel]

Yep
180w without Harmo

[ripe stag]

[ripe stag]

If you are gonna solo

[barren plank]

Oh not happening

[zenith kernel]

Solo or swap?
4 Fran 4 Heisen is what I use for swap

[barren plank]

Hmmm

I have been using 4Fran 4Guin

But recently I have been thinking of swaping to Heisen

[zenith kernel]

That's what's recommended but I cannot outscore myself with 4 Guin
The personal damage upgrade from 4 Heisen just works better for how I play

[barren plank]

15% shred or 25% buff hmmmm

[floral plover]

I feel like the shred wins

I think

[buoyant hornet]

I need the tickets from invite code but there's no returning players

[sly geyser]

dedge game fr

[buoyant hornet]

Depending on the situation shred often wins

[zenith kernel]

Shred is always gonna be > than Buff when being compared
Imo 15% res shred>25% buff

[vast crystal]

Would have made more sense to have returning event next patch with all the content coming, not like anyone would return tho so no point I guess

[buoyant hornet]

My economy isn't that bad atm tbh but less than 12k bc especially if they fck up x3 weeklies on Luna's first week would make me have to wait a while before getting her 💀

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah lmao the timing is so sudden too

[floral plover]

hold dodge luna for 5 secs

[zenith kernel]

The real endgame content
Idk why Kuro thought it would be a great idea to lock so many rewards behind a borderline impossible task

[buoyant hornet]

Sig is a whole story of itself but if I'm desperate I have spare sigs I can recycle

[floral plover]

[buoyant hornet]

I was holding on to them to see my future luck with wep pulls (I'd rather use the dupes as resos over recycle) but if recycling is the only option then

[buoyant hornet]

Right there's thousands of bc in there not to mention the serum

[buoyant hornet]

Ig I'll have to see how my economy is looking by oblivion's debut, if I can even get her day 1/2

[zenith kernel]

Fortunately for me I got a dead account from a friend who stopped playing like a year ago

[buoyant hornet]

I also had a friend but they stopped playing again after 2 days 😭

And no one else had an acc they wanted to give away

[zenith kernel]

I'm the one piloting his acc so I don't have to worry about this

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah I was looking for something like that but no luck

I'd happily pilot a 3rd acc if it means better funds for the mess kuro made out of synchro 💀

Oh yeah great idea don't do x3 rewards on the entire first week how smart

[zenith kernel]

Kuro if I catch you Kuro

[buoyant hornet]

2 whole weeks of materials and currency gone

Literally a daylight scam

And no compensation as far as I've heard

[zenith kernel]

Wasn't there supposed to be some way to recoup the losses? Or did Kuro fumble that as well

[buoyant hornet]

"oH We kNoW tHe PlaYerS hAve cOncErns sO we pLannEd eVerYthIng" my -ass

I expected better from them based on the wuwa release but ig they dgaf

[zenith kernel]

🤡

[buoyant hornet]

Like actually 2 weeks of currency gone is actually pissing me off really bad as a f2p who's been barely able to handle stuff while I play every damn day

Like wow thanks kuro

[barren plank]

They actually gave 2K BC as compensation

[quiet pawn]

will this only activate if i invited someone?

[barren plank]

Tho ig they still lose out on all the skulls and other stuff

[barren plank]

If u invite 3 people and they all do those missions

[quiet pawn]

Man

[buoyant hornet]

Oh sweet 2k out of the lost 4k bc + no compensation on materials

[quiet pawn]

[barren plank]

No 2K is the exact amount lost from the weeklies

[buoyant hornet]

A returning player specifically (lvl 40+ and inactive for 30+ days)

[barren plank]

I calculated it

It's still dumb Im not justifying it but they at least gave compensation of some sorts

[buoyant hornet]

We definitely get more than 1k per week

[zenith kernel]

Not even 2.5k
Smh😔
This does not make up for 2 weeks worth+2 patches worth of Maintenance funds
Kuro if I catch you.

[barren plank]

Huh it was only 1 week

[buoyant hornet]

And our skulls/voucher economy: dedge

[buoyant hornet]

1 week of TRIPLE rewards

1x3= 3

Vs 1x1 = 1

[barren plank]

Yea you lost exactly 2K since they didnt give triple

[zenith kernel]

One week is the equivalent of 2-3 weeks in acceleration time innit?
That's what i mean

[buoyant hornet]

It's a triple patch

[barren plank]

And they gave exactly 2K back

[buoyant hornet]

Missing one week of x3 equates to missing x2 weeks

[zenith kernel]

What about the maintenance funds
That's 1.2k missing

[barren plank]

Instead of 3K BC that week players would only get 1K, whoch means they lost out on 2K BC
And kuro mailed it
The rest of the resources are still fcked but at least they gave the BC back at the very least

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah every way you look at it that 2k was NOT proper compensation

[buoyant hornet]

Keep in mind norman too

[barren plank]

What happen w the maintenance?

[buoyant hornet]

Iirc in KR norman started on that week and wasn't tripled

[zenith kernel]

I specified + maintenance
It's still inherently bad

[barren plank]

Yea not denying that

[buoyant hornet]

Aka the base 500bc + 250 cub tix isn't tripled as it should be

[zenith kernel]

Maintenance bc, KR didn't get triple

[buoyant hornet]

This first week was a clear scam and their compensation was anything but enough imo

[barren plank]

To play devils advocate, it's technically one patch and not 3

But still dumb

[buoyant hornet]

It was purely "here's something for those of y'all who don't do math on your resources"

[zenith kernel]

F2p rights they said

[buoyant hornet]

The skulls are one of the worst things affected too (not to mention norman reso shards)

[zenith kernel]

I will pepper spray the devil

[buoyant hornet]

They fcked the entire playerbase over, payers or free

All because they're too hesitant to give proper compensation because giving away more than 2k is gonna tank their profits apparently

[barren plank]

I love how as a big thank you to F2P glazers they shoved the middle finger up their ass 😭

[zenith kernel]

Kr was already teetering
Now Kuro wants to pull the plug on it completely, lmao

[buoyant hornet]

I will literally never invite anyone to this game until synchro is over (or just never invite altogether)

[shy bane]

Eoooooosssssssss

[buoyant hornet]

One thing to note is our patch will be on a Friday

Aka well before weekly reset

So unless kuro pulls the "equality in how much we're fcking y'all over" we might get an actual proper x3 first week (discounting the 2 days before it)

Unlike the full wasted week in KR

[ebon grove]

When S rank omniframe added to standard banner after their debut?

[zenith kernel]

Kr had their patch scheduled for Monday, why exactly did Kuro not just apply the triple rewards immediately after maintenance, bar actually being braindead I see no reason why they're delaying it in the first place

[buoyant hornet]

Which, I really hope that's the case and hope that KR gets better compensation if it doesn't EoS by january

[shadow mica]

KR gonna take Solon to the Squid Games

[zenith kernel]

Yes, every 2 patches after their debut

[buoyant hornet]

2 patches later but we're not sure how it'll work during the integrated patches

[ebon grove]

Thank you everyone for the answer

[buoyant hornet]

^^^^^

[zenith kernel]

[buoyant hornet]

Kuro is mad dumb because the whole excuse for doing synchro is to equalize all servers' experience

Especially if part of the reason is the DMC collab

So them trying so hard to completely tank their reputation before the damn collab is ?????

[zinc jungle]

💀

Time to quit

[barren plank]

Imagine Capcom loses trust in Kuro and pulls out of the collab contract

All that for what 💀

[buoyant hornet]

Watch them give global 2 weeks of x1 rewards on luna patch

[buoyant hornet]

That's literally a potential thing mind you

[zenith kernel]

"equal"
Lol
Why'd CN get the 2.5k rewards
They're not even affected by this
Equal my Changyu's ass

[buoyant hornet]

Unless they're locked into it by contract

[ebon grove]

I wonder after sync server, does it mean the anniversary event are will be same with cn?

[buoyant hornet]

Guess so

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah "" "equal" ""

Also apparently CN is getting the synchro event missions that give extra bc/mats as long as other servers get it

[barren plank]

Because Cn is the favrotie child
All CN companies will take the course of action that benefits the home playerbase the msot

They always have and always will

[buoyant hornet]

Because that makes a lot of sense amirite

[zenith kernel]

Indeed, which makes ther equality claim complete BS

[barren plank]

If Kuro reduces packs CN would bitchfit and they would be in a MUCH worse position tbh

[buoyant hornet]

Thing is, kuro cannot be defended here

[barren plank]

So if they are gambling on this DMC collab being the money maker for PGR I think they are willing to gamble KR EoS and even potentially GLB EoS

[polar bridge]

Which characters can parry fully like royal guard

[zinc jungle]

some servers are more equal than others.

[buoyant hornet]

Because even if it's tricky to handle the packs cost, THEY decided to roll the synchro without even polling the playerbase or anything

And once again I'm saying this as some who likes the concept of synchro

[shadow mica]

Literally all they have to do is give us the DMC collab at the same time as CN, and when it's done, we continue the patch we were supposed to start

[zenith kernel]

Everything is equal but this equal is of a higher value
Lmao

[shadow mica]

Like Hanying > DMC > Wanshi

[buoyant hornet]

I genuinely would've quit if it wasn't for the influx of characters, I was burned out from the slow patches

[zenith kernel]

Nanami is holding me hostage

[shadow mica]

Not like DMC is going to be meta relevant anyway. Wont affect Warzone/ppc scoring lol

Even if it was, if anything that would increase revenue for GLB

[buoyant hornet]

Before synchro announced I had already decided I'd quit after Qu or Luna because they're the characters I was excited about the most

[polar bridge]

I came bacc after seeing bridget

[buoyant hornet]

Everyone else was way later down the line and not worth months upon months of burnout on a game with 0 real content outside of the 3-4 meta gamemodes

[barren plank]

Tbh that would be kinda hard to do

[shadow mica]

Harder than mashing 3 patches together?

[barren plank]

They would have to code it differently for all the servers

[buoyant hornet]

Yes it's genuinely harder

Kuro only fcked up the merge because they're stupid not because it's harder than the solution you suggested

[zenith kernel]

[buoyant hornet]

Normal companies would likely do what you said but kuro is hell bent on "cloning" patches

[barren plank]

True tbh they hate recoding sht

If they didn't GLB wouldn't have the same bugs that CN had on it's previous release lmfao

[buoyant hornet]

^^^^^^

[zenith kernel]

This
Lmao

[buoyant hornet]

We would've had the updated UIs, the bug fixes, the buff/debuff UI indicators, etc

Mind you to this day the voodoo fight in CR is STILL bugged

They failed to clone that bug fix into glb :/

[polar bridge]

So...no more clairvoyance? How long till we fully catch to cn?

[buoyant hornet]

Voodoo will still oneshot you and take negative dmg because she's balanced around taking surplus dmg from phys units, which she doesn't

[barren plank]

They say by the end of next year

[buoyant hornet]

Supposedly by late 2025

[dreamy pelican]

tbh i feel the same way too. i genuinely like the idea of the sync- assuming it was done right

[shadow mica]

Allegedly*

[barren plank]

WHAT

LMAOOOOOOO

[dreamy pelican]

welcome to globlul

[barren plank]

I thought they fixed that sht already 😭

[buoyant hornet]

Exactly that's why I'm so pissed, they fcked it up hard and I really liked the concept

[dreamy pelican]

ikr

[barren plank]

Tbh I didn't want sync at all I liked being a year behind and planning what tf Im gonna do and pull for

[zenith kernel]

Nope
I still experience it when Voodoo comes around
Truly this is our Pgr

[buoyant hornet]

Last time I tested was wata patch, in CN the fix was applied 1 week after CR's introduction in Alisa patch

[barren plank]

Yea Im pretty convinced at this point is that all Kuro pays for GLB is maintenance and translations

[dreamy pelican]

the fix should be mega easy

im very bewildered why they didnt fix it yet

[buoyant hornet]

Lmao wuwa their favorite new child

[shadow mica]

They paid for "nihil" smh

[dreamy pelican]

maintenance is done in house im assuming, they probably just paid for translation and qc

qc probably has no budget so they dont gaf about bugs

[buoyant hornet]

I don't even remember if my acc that doesn't have harmo alisa was able to clear voodoo yet for the first time reward, I was probably waiting until hanying to do it

[barren plank]

They could have done so many bug fixes and improvements to the game's other servers but no instead they blew 3M dollars on an EN dubbing no one asked for and one so sht that maybe like 20 people use it 💀
Most Kuro moment of all time

[verbal trout]

hard not to see why, game is more accessible than PGR in it's current state

It mirrors HI3 and Genshin by a lot lol

[zenith kernel]

Notice how nobody has mentioned their non-existent marketing for pgr

[buoyant hornet]

Why mention something that doesn't exist

[verbal trout]

im personally just relieved? that Wuwa exist? It's def more inviting than PGR lol

really enjoying that game

[buoyant hornet]

I use the dub and I like most of it

[shadow holly]

jinhsi skin price isnt inviting for my credit card 😭

[quartz dove]

[shadow mica]

There are literally hundreds/throusands of gacha games and I only ever see marketing for the newer, high budget ones

[verbal trout]

i thought PGR skins are also priced around the same?

[zenith kernel]

[barren plank]

Tbh if they're willing to do smth this to PGR they are willing to do smth similar in WW

[dreamy pelican]

tbh i kinda get it. marketing costs a lot, and they (back then) didnt want to spend any money they had on it since it could do nothing theoretically

...not sure about now though. i see more marketing for kuro's games, but still not by a lot

[shadow mica]

PGR not having marketing is the norm

[verbal trout]

WW does not have a catchup problem so idk what are u on

[zenith kernel]

It's usually 30 bucks in pgr no?
Isn't it 50 or so in Wuwa

[verbal trout]

the problem PGR faces just doesn't exist for WW lol

[dreamy pelican]

i mean a marketing plan for a small business we're clients with costed was supposed to be 3k

[barren plank]

I never said anything ab any catchup

[verbal trout]

VFX skin?

[buoyant hornet]

WW is ACTUALLY equal on all servers lmao

[barren plank]

This could apply to any future change or decision they make

[zenith kernel]

Yep not including the Gacha skins

[verbal trout]

wait a sec

so the new Qu VFX skin, how much does it cost?

[barren plank]

In CN? 168 RC

So like 35 dollars

[dreamy pelican]

its probably because of who handles the vfx works

pgr costs less probably because its done in house, while wuwa's not

[quartz dove]

At least wuwa is winnig irght

[dreamy pelican]

no one in kuro knows how to use ue4 and it shows during launch

[verbal trout]

also this is a HUGE stretch but like, perhaps it's charged that way cuz Wuwa skins can be used for u to wander everywhere with?

while in PGR u don't really actively explore with that skin on lol

it's pure combat and the home screen

[shadow mica]

Well there's 0 game devs worldwide that seem to know how to use UE5, so yeah.

[dreamy pelican]

thats definitely not it. cosmetics are still used the same either way- even if ur free roaming or stuck in one map, the amount of time ur seeing that skin doesn't revolve around that

[barren plank]

I heard Valo was switching to UE5 if that's relevant

[shadow mica]

"easy to use engine" my ass. Not 1 UE5 game has decent optimization

[verbal trout]

Oh, okay maybe Wuwa skins are more comparable to the gacha skins? cuz icon + weapon skin + background for profile

[cunning tree]

Wukong

[shadow mica]

Wukong runs like ass what

Not as bad as Stalker 2, but still bad

[dreamy pelican]

i have never heard a single person say ue5 is easy. my gamedev course uses ue5, and while its simple to code stuff in, optimisation is so damn hard

most of these games were probably done in ue4, then imported straight into ue5

[shadow mica]

That's the main reason I hear for all these studio's switching to UE5, away from their own in house engine

[zenith kernel]

I mean, we get most of if not all of these + some extra stuff so I don't think it's equivalent

[verbal trout]

doesn't the gacha skin cost a lot more anyway

[barren plank]

Yes

[verbal trout]

so ig wuwa skin is inbetween a VFX skin and a gacha skin

[barren plank]

It's a different game there's no use comparing the two

[dreamy pelican]

ue5 has way more tools at it's disposal, making adding new content and changing stuff so much easier

but that comes with the disadvantage of it being very hard to optimise, not including how the engine itself is very consuming

[verbal trout]

wait so wahts the fate of the old backgrounds from annivs

are they sold at a later date?

[barren plank]

No you can never get them again

[zenith kernel]

No
You just don't get them anymore

[verbal trout]

Yeah but like, isn't it being made available somehow at some point in CN?

[shadow mica]

Wasnt there a recent CN patch that allowed you to buy previous anni backgrounds?

[verbal trout]

or am i misremembering

[barren plank]

No

Not that I remember

[dreamy pelican]

very rarely does a studio create their own game engine, simply because they dont have the funds for it. its incredibly, and i mean incredibly difficult to make an engine of your own- why gamble most of company funds for something you could do in an exisiting engine already?

[zenith kernel]

Nah, that would be counterproductive
It's an exclusive thing so selling it on a late date would be a bum move on kuro's end ┐⁠(⁠￣⁠ヘ⁠￣⁠)⁠┌

[dreamy pelican]

the ones that i know do it because it saves them more money and time in the long run. like fromsoft, with their from engine.

even genshin doesnt have its own engine, simply because it doesn't need to

[verbal trout]

my salt from missing one of these by one day is unending

[shadow mica]

I meant they already have their own engine, and been used on multiple games previously already. And now they're switching to ue5

343 (Halo devs) and CDPR are both switching

[zenith kernel]

I missed the first anniversary background by like a week, and I'm still salty about it

[shadow mica]

Red Engine looks great

[normal bluff]

Finally finished the first 8 chapters

[shadow mica]

I think Bethesda were also thinking about switching?

[normal bluff]

I hate juggling between wanting to know what happens in the story and event shop

[barren plank]

How fcked would I be if I bought SS Garnet if I dont plan to buy BP anymore?

[dreamy pelican]

i cant say for certain, but usually studios switch engines because they prioritise more in that engine than the one they currently have.

unreal engine is seen as so good because it's high-end graphics are very good- and it's not a concern if they're game is planning to be released years later, a timeframe when computers should be able to run ue5 smoothly

[barren plank]

U can kinda see my voucher count in the corner

[dreamy pelican]

tldr: they're banking for late game

[frozen creek]

If you don’t plan on buying bp I’d just leave it save it for wanshi

[dreamy pelican]

again, there might be other reasons, but that's my guess

i dont have much experience in the working world of gamedev, so what i say might be entirely wrong

[frozen creek]

No bp anymore will still be difficult

[dreamy pelican]

i just work with clients n shi

[solid kraken]

Can anyone link me a good copypasta for the change game pack argument?

[shadow mica]

Then leave instead of complaining, we don't need your money anyway, go play genshin or Aether gaezer but, don't cry when you miss Vergil and dante. You will cry like those people who missed nier team and still think that bianca stigmata is better than 2B, which is just a legitimate lie honestly.

[severe cargo]

Dumb question should I buy out this bp?

[frozen creek]

Then leave instead of complaining, we don't need your money anyway, go play genshin or Aether gaezer but, don't cry when you miss Vergil and dante. You will cry like those people who missed nier team and still think that bianca stigmata is better than 2B, which is just a legitimate lie honestly.

[barren plank]

Nah u got time to complete it

[solid kraken]

also lol

but I mean a non shtpost copypaste

[dreamy pelican]

Then leave instead of complaining, we don't need your money anyway, go play genshin or Aether gaezer but, don't cry when you miss Vergil and dante. You will cry like those people who missed nier team and still think that bianca stigmata is better than 2B, which is just a legitimate lie honestly.

[dreamy pelican]

games gonna eos anyway, dont buy anything

[frozen creek]

Don’t ever ever buy it out it’s a scam

[zenith kernel]

I haven't touched Nier since Stigmata dropped
Cook those frauds

[frozen creek]

As you should

[severe cargo]

How is bianca not better then 2b?

[dreamy pelican]

le copypasta

[frozen creek]

It’s a copypasta

Some idiot actually typed it out thought about it and hit send

[severe cargo]

O ok

[spiral merlin]

no they meant it

[verbal trout]

...wait is this a free Stigmata? Wonder if her SS3 is gonna be good at least

[frozen creek]

:kekw

[spiral merlin]

[frozen creek]

Bro

[dreamy pelican]

also nice pfp

shame its gonna get nuked soon

[frozen creek]

I acc hate typing emojis on phone

[barren plank]

It's very good for phys

[dreamy pelican]

you... type emojis?

[zenith kernel]

It's good now...later on?
Borderline useless
Lol

[shadow holly]

her ss3 is super good...until hanying comes out
then its alright

[frozen creek]

Like with the :

[shadow holly]

[severe cargo]

I WAS GONNA SAY TIME LAG IS THE ONLY REASON WE PICK UP THESE GEN 2 S RANKS Lol

[dreamy pelican]

what abt trueslash

[frozen creek]

For discord only obviously

[barren plank]

Kinda useless ngl

[spiral merlin]

even without it theyre miles better than gen1

[zenith kernel]

Brickslash

[dreamy pelican]

??

[frozen creek]

Free stigmata copy gives 20% core dmg

[normal bluff]

Gen 2 S rank damage is like universes of a difference

[dreamy pelican]

when do we get gen 3 again

after luna?

[severe cargo]

2026 xd

[frozen creek]

No new gen

Next gen is gen Eos

[dreamy pelican]

eos before then

[frozen creek]

[spiral merlin]

gen 3 already started with wata, qu just took a step back like usual

[severe cargo]

Like the next step in generation is for kuro to drop GOD frames lol

[dreamy pelican]

i remember ppl being ballistic over wata, and calling him gen 3

but iirc they pushed it back to luna? not sure

[zenith kernel]

Pgr 2: revival from Eos

soon
Trust

[frozen creek]

[spiral merlin]

gen3 definition is hazy

[dreamy pelican]

yeah fair

everything oneshots anyways

[visual wind]

Pgr 2.0: Black Beacon devs

[zenith kernel]

Luna because affixes imo
But that would imply Daren is a gen 3 via leap and I would rather krill myself than call Daren a gen 3

[zenith thorn]

next patch

[severe cargo]

Realistically, where does kuro games go from gen twos frames being able to basically time lag .

[dreamy pelican]

i never would imagine a day i call daren gen 3

[spiral merlin]

swap cd reduction, qte cd reduction

[zenith thorn]

tho even that is debated

[visual wind]

Btw does daren leap -3s swap?

[spiral merlin]

no

[normal bluff]

3 ping timestop

[visual wind]

Wow sound bad

[zenith kernel]

Lmfao

[spiral merlin]

its a good leap still ofc

[dreamy pelican]

feature creep galore

[severe cargo]

The only gen 3 i see them doing is no orbs randomization or no core passive cd or like you said no qte cd

[zenith kernel]

[spiral merlin]

gen 3 is here tho

[frozen creek]

How long are ishmael wz runs

[spiral merlin]

unmistakably

[shadow mica]

Timestop but switch CD isn't affected

[spiral merlin]

people just argue on the definition

[severe cargo]

So double matrix?

[shadow holly]

7min

well after the 4rot nerf probably like 6

[frozen creek]

[zenith thorn]

https://youtu.be/_iy-qRDpQcg?si=AGsV-_0TKlNbnl0p

[shadow holly]

or 6 and a half

[frozen creek]

High skill game

[zenith kernel]

Gen 4 pgr: Characters play themselves, afk Malding

[zenith thorn]

7 minutes

[barren plank]

Is 9s ult2 kill on Voodoo even doable or am I just slow af

[shadow holly]

with ss3 or higher yes

[zenith kernel]

I refuse to play guild with ishamel
I am not spending 30 minutes playing guild

[dreamy pelican]

tbf they dont need to give more features to make something meta; unlike dmg, where it can reach unlimited amounts of dmg creep, feature creep is limited

[barren plank]

Oh Im at SS, ig it isnt?

[shadow holly]

yes ss0 9s not doable

[barren plank]

k alright then

[dreamy pelican]

which is a reason why they made the cd reduction locked behind a very big paywall, and the orb rng on very few units

[severe cargo]

Very true as far as gatches gi kuro did strike a fair blance with character

[zenith kernel]

Is 10s even doable without all blue orbs
Or am I just Skill issuing
Can't seem to do it with red cancel

[dreamy pelican]

i felt like i had a stroke just reading this

[severe cargo]

You get the full character kit on drop and all upgrades are Qol and straight damage

[quartz dove]

7 minute warzone

[spiral merlin]

full character kit

[spiral merlin]

thats a good one

[dapper skiff]

Hell yeah

I do want to watch them play themselves

[zenith kernel]

"full character kit"😔

[dapper skiff]

Minor spelling mistake

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[dreamy pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[zenith kernel]

Kuro stop locking inherent mechanics behind sig or I'll touch you😔

[severe cargo]

Am I wrong now?

[dapper skiff]

Nah

[dreamy pelican]

yes.

[dapper skiff]

Touch me instead

[shadow holly]

uhh i think doable but it would be tight with smth like brbr
better just restart for bbbr or 4b

[dapper skiff]

I'm bored

[frozen creek]

So is the next patch login screen gonna be Luna or what

[dapper skiff]

Do it

[spiral merlin]

sig + ss3 for basic human rights

[dapper skiff]

[dapper skiff]

*sss

[spiral merlin]

• cub

[dapper skiff]

Ss3 just for rot

[quartz dove]

Basic human right ...

[dapper skiff]

Sss for the dmg with proper rot

[zenith kernel]

[spiral merlin]

yeah rot is what we're talking about

[dapper skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/758147515647918100.gif

[dreamy pelican]

needed character mechanics are locked behind their signatures for gen 3, and some even require you to reach ss3 to be even swappable (looking at you daren)

[severe cargo]

Ahhh rot is locked behind sss yeaaaa....

[zenith kernel]

😔

[dreamy pelican]

for example

lamia needs sig, harmony, dlt, ss, and pet just to be functional

[shadow holly]

pretty bad example tbh

[dapper skiff]

Real

[dreamy pelican]

they're slowly but surely adding more conditions to be met just for a character to be usable to a good enough lvl

[severe cargo]

You know what YEA YOU ARE NOT WRONG ACTYALLY I still think lamia is bunzs

[dapper skiff]

At least put Daren there smh

[dreamy pelican]

yeah i agree

[shadow holly]

qu is right there and you chose to mention lamia

[zenith kernel]

Luna is the worst offender
Kuro literally locked her kit behind her Sig without shame

[shadow holly]

[frozen creek]

All you need is s+ sig cub not too difficult

[zenith kernel]

Wdym she can't do something her Laurel frame had built in without sig

[dreamy pelican]

i dont wanna put daren because for gen 2s (and gen 2s only), she was an exception

but yeah mb shouldve put qu in there

[zenith kernel]

My sig luck is very....🤡

[dreamy pelican]

... unless im missing someone

im not, right

[frozen creek]

I offrated this patch

Now I have hole in wallet

[dapper skiff]

She's gen2 tho

[frozen creek]

[zenith kernel]

I off rated 3 patches In a row at some point
:/

[minor minnow]

did qu's english voice change or im high

[dapper skiff]

Whaduhelll

[barren plank]

Yes they did change her

[minor minnow]

[dreamy pelican]

yeah exactly

iirc she's the only non free unit to require ss3 to be swappable

[frozen creek]

It’s fine you’ll pull Luna sig in 1

[dreamy pelican]

unless im forgetting someone ofc

[minor minnow]

no wonder it feels odd. i liked the old one better

[frozen creek]

You use English

[dapper skiff]

Who's @shadow holly is tls

Your bro?

[frozen creek]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-street-cat-cat-cat-meme-hellostreetcat-gif-13389802808859109532

[dreamy pelican]

we got trs's little brother, tls

[minor minnow]

i am not him

[dapper skiff]

Dang

[zenith kernel]

Hopefully
But my sig luck has been scarily on point lately
8/30 Wata
12/30 Qu
17/30 Chrome (×2 Sigs)

So I just know Kuro is preparing to off rate me 6 times next patch

[dreamy pelican]

its actually pretty interesting to see how kuro is adding more requirements for bare minimum investments

because they way they approach it is so unique

[dapper skiff]

Bro knows he's going to be cooked

So he preheat the pan by himself

[zenith kernel]

[dreamy pelican]

they reduce the amount of meta needed in the game, then increase the bare minimum investment required

so technically the 'minimum investment' that's being increased slowly but surely becomes less needed by the playerbase

or something. idk man eos is soon anyways

[dapper skiff]

Bro

What is this "thoughtful" conversation

As a #📨・meta-help veteran

[frozen creek]

Eos conversation

[barren plank]

Is 7s ult1 possible w/o cancel?

[dapper skiff]

He's not one of our kind

[dreamy pelican]

what eos does to a mf

[dapper skiff]

Why are you not canceling anyway

No thumb?

[barren plank]

No cuz mobile

[dapper skiff]

Ok

No rights

[barren plank]

If I cancel the only way to move is backwards

[dapper skiff]

Next question

[barren plank]

Tho i havent actually tried moving sideways

[dapper skiff]

Try it

Lol

[shadow holly]

wdym

just hold forward as usual

[barren plank]

The quickest way is backwards
On mobile idk if i can still ult1 at 7 if I have to waste time to move the joystick beforehand

[shadow holly]

yes neutral dodge at the start, hold forward before tidal

[nova forum]

[zenith kernel]

Pre hold, should work

[barren plank]

The mf dodges back

[shadow holly]

wtf

[barren plank]

How to prehold on mobile

[dapper skiff]

Just do it smh

Or do you want me to show taps too?

[barren plank]

Literally how

[shadow holly]

ah yes send clip of SSS lamia where you get full energy from just tidal without 3p

[zenith kernel]

It's not as precise as PC but I just hold what would be forward on my Joystick when I'm pre tapping for switch and it usually works

https://youtu.be/yoA0-nQwet4?si=fWiJ6fLBkgFTAEu1

For example the 7s here

just realized I forgot to unlist this vid kek

[shadow holly]

[steady otter]

🛐

[dapper skiff]

U called?

[shadow holly]

[vague nebula]

how r u doing this?

[shadow holly]

it's just normal sp delay

[zenith kernel]

Where did you buy your hacks🙏🏾

[vague nebula]

[shadow holly]

though again not relevant to what mycledra needed

[vague nebula]

[barren plank]

What exactly is sp delay I hear it everywhere yet I have no clue what it actually is

[zenith thorn]

[barren plank]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-hurt-pain-gif-19380087

[shadow holly]

if you ult fast enough after using orbs, the energy gain registers after ult

[zenith kernel]

Energy delay, full energy in first you do some witchcraft and then you have more energy in second stance to do faster Ults
My 9s run is an sp delay and Kuraisan's Lamia run above

[vague nebula]

[zenith thorn]

free vbucks glitch

(2024)(still working)

[zenith kernel]

😲

[lethal sun]

I LOVE SP DELAY

[zenith thorn]

eos or sp delay

[lethal sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/991454621652488372/1317157431314223247/IzaSaveUs.gif

[normal bluff]

Gen 3 swap in and QTE timestop?

[barren plank]

SP means energy in this game too? Damn I thought I was just crazy when I guessed what the actual name meant

[normal bluff]

Okay my random thoughts are done

[barren plank]

Too much Hi3 lingo still stuck in my head

[lethal sun]

Pretty sure SP means energy in like every game that has an energy system

It’s just a slang

[vast crystal]

How fast are talking, 0.0000000001th of a second?

[lethal sun]

For energy

[zenith thorn]

gen 3 is affix
literally out in cn alr

[lethal sun]

Gen 4 is affix 2

[sly geyser]

3s lamia ?

[zenith thorn]

ag

[lethal sun]

Aether gayzer

[zenith thorn]

i will gay you

[barren plank]

Im going to jump off a bridge I swear

[zenith thorn]

have u tried

critting

[barren plank]

It's dark team bro, have u tried glasses

[lethal sun]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-honkai-yohariko-gif-25939800

[sly geyser]

critting with elemantal units ?

[zenith kernel]

https://youtu.be/wPo-8qVlpDE?si=y6IruCG8qsqkdURu

😭

[zenith thorn]

i have not tried gallases thanks for asking

[lethal sun]

galagas

[zenith thorn]

galaxy

noway
galaxy pookie mentioned

[shadow holly]

galaxussy

[quartz dove]

[zenith kernel]

[barren plank]

I swear to god most hell runs in PPC are only mildly to moderately challenging its fcking knight that makes me wanna kill myself

[quartz dove]

Dont eos yourself before the game eos

[zenith kernel]

Have you tried...crittng?

[vague nebula]

[quartz dove]

[barren plank]

How do I crit with an elemental team

[delicate isle]

[zenith kernel]

I was Actually so shocked
This is the worst typa float I've ever experienced 😭

[zenith kernel]

...

[quiet pawn]

do you get any reward from this

[vague nebula]

I experienced this same thing

[barren plank]

Funniest part is that if u pinged cub active u would have made the run

[vague nebula]

[zenith kernel]

Probably not, cub takes forever to attack(which is why she died later lmao)
I did eventually get it

[zenith kernel]

.

[dapper skiff]

Skill point

Signature point

[nova forum]

BruH

If I were to unbind my account, can I ask both account used to get unbind?

[dapper skiff]

Uhhhhhhhhh

Yes!

What u need to do is you simply just need to dm me your account information

And I will unbind both used account

[nova forum]

Gak lucu lu nyet

[dapper skiff]

[nova forum]

Insider's connection ae gak punya

[dapper skiff]

Kan sy bukan cs bapak

[nova forum]

[dapper skiff]

Wae are u asking here

Just dm megumin already smh

[zenith kernel]

[dapper skiff]

And hope it reply you within the next 5 days

And not 5 months

God

Phone too hot after playing too much girl's feetlines

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1277247077084037181.png

[vast crystal]

Pgr 2030 elements: Ice+glacio+freeze+cold+low temperature

[hazy sandal]

+chill

+blizard

[vague nebula]

nah hsr players call it skill point
u need sp management

[shadow holly]

[nova forum]

What part of getting hit by lightning mid wz session is chill

[shadow holly]

the part where you chill out because WZ too cringe

[dapper skiff]

It just skill point in hi3rd

[nova forum]

Ded game then

[vague nebula]

[dapper skiff]

Surely it's signature point in pgr

Definitely not copying anything

clueless

[vague nebula]

[vast crystal]

+snow +cryo +sub zero +winter

Kuro really thinking out of the box

Innovative stuff

[hazy sandal]

They can’t

Unifying stuffs as a one word ‘freeze’

[vast crystal]

Meanwhile water light earth:

[dapper skiff]

They gonna be adding elemental reaction in Selena patch

[vast crystal]

[surreal nest]

you can only trigger elemental reaction at 3S

[valid mica]

is he good?

[quartz dove]

Ente kayak mau masuk departemen ajah

[nova forum]

Ehh not really, just bitter towards everything about this game

[visual wind]

Nihil

[verbal trout]

so shukra is really that baed at base S? starting to wonder if that character is just that cooked until SS or sig cuz she's stupidly ping hungry and got none of that

[spiral merlin]

worse than bad

but still better than ploom

which is not a difficult thing to be

[pine slate]

Everyone is bro

Just go do the achievements

U quit for a long time, there's lots of bosses

[verbal trout]

u mean three of them

which aren't present in rotation atm

i did the achivements already

[pine slate]

All 580k?

[verbal trout]

580k is not doable

[pine slate]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-stare-side-eye-side-eye-meme-ginger-cat-gif-9337430562745204577

Who do u have again?

[verbal trout]

https://huaxu.app/ap/players/18835994/characters

[pine slate]

And all ur outlier bosses r 580k?

[verbal trout]

most of them aren't, but they're too difficult or annoying to 580k

I'll just live with the pain for now and be patient and wait out the slow skulls intake

[pine slate]

I had hope for ur lightning but no sig

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-anguish-despair-gif-13915908866750092639

[mighty tusk]

surely ss r1 harmo qu is enough for 580k?

[pine slate]

Ye

[mighty tusk]

or even 600k