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Keyblade?!?!?!?!
Ill take it free is free
Darkness
now u can play CA and shing shing shing
@verbal trout maybe you could use selector to SS empy if you don't wanna waste skulls
Bro its crazy how i havent lost 80% ever since cappuccino
Empy will be needed to rotate with lucia/wata if you're not a spender (aka no SSS wata)
Its always the rate up im not complaining but i might get fk in the back anytime soon im feeling it
i have an S Empy
I'm so happy for your wins
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Speaking of, I wonder how leap empy functions without sig
with sig
S empy is dog poopoo
She needs SS to have absolutely minimum human rights
god. My experience with PGR and Wuwa continuse to be polar opposite huh 😭
still better than sophia

They're extremely different games
Wuwa doesn't guarantee units in banner but it's nowhere near as competitive as pgr
So even a base character can often get things done without dupes/rank upgrades
Pgr is way more miserable in character invest requirements
toa full clear doable with random 4 star characters solo with 5 star standard weps
requires cracked echoes but it's an extreme example from the beginning
wuwa just has no real content that pushes the need for anything 
Yeah it's ACTUALLY entirely about skill in that game unlike PGR
Pgr lower invests can use skill to elevate their potential but there's always a big hard-cap on how much you can do in meta
"requires cracked echo's"
"entirely about skill"
I still feel amazed by the Chixia clears ngl 
well, I guess in a way yeah
but wuwa is turbo easy too 
Wuthering character kits seem complete at S0 
pgr sometimes wants u to have ss3 for actual character experience 
this
You know what's free?
ss3? sss is the human rights package starting with gen2, keep up
Echos 💀
daren ptsd
This game when Sync starts?
Basically
honestly it's not just that, it's also just PGR needing every elem which is what i'm not a big fan of lol
sss r1, everyone and their cubs need fk dlt
LMFAOOOO
ss cub even
pretty much
I don't think daren is a character below 3s3
mine is still s5 so.... qte bot time
although the cub is just damage so it doesn't go in my argument about char kits/playstyles being invest gated
but yeah

Wuwa characters feel functional at s0 or whatever you call it idr

Upgrades are all like "oh that's really nice" but not something that'll change your character entirely
its s0,s1,s2 till s6 like g game c0, c1 etc
Ngl I think I'm considering skipping her on the acc that doesn't have her
that's true, but they had gotten greedy locking wanshi's dmg behind cub
or like Nanami that's "oh is just dmg increase, but it's like 80% and is basically double dmg" 
Because I can't afford her sig unless I'm lucky so would I really bother getting her from selector for the 5% extra shred
lamia pet 
Eh but then again I don't have anything better to get aside from an early ss3 balter
But that would require new mem set 😭
so u forgor put dlt say bye to 50% pf ur dmg

oya?

agreed absolutely yeah
feral skipper 
Dalao
wata skipper 
wata skipper 
bro been livin in the past

my best and worst wz
god gives god takes ig 
leader is such a different setting lmao
There is a reason they are in lead-


Dalao
My worst wz is a close competition between phys and lightning
Solo cw vs. ss0 balter comps 
omg hi big fan 
Anyone in warzone rn?
Im MiA rn
A current gen amplifier can outdamage an old attacker unit of the same element?

how is this guy have sss cw yet I outscore him
when did ss0 balter became the poverty 
phy be dead element
Yes lol
I want to go back to hero
Even lilith is slightly better than lamia afaik
So, Lilith is an overkill but, would i experience an upgrade if i switch Laurel with Selena DPS?
leader is either fun or cursed af 
oh no
Laurel and selena is a different thing cause selena is like the worst amp
selena at sss is just barely at same level as Laurel
Ouch
She gets the job done but because her dmg is so backloaded and ss0 struggles to do multiple rots, it's easy to get really bad waves (like having to ult on a 1hp bar enemy)
Wait where did you get laurel
Ages ago
oh okay
At the Guide S rank character ticket
fr. I am still baffled.
343 330 111 phys team scored only 1.37m
no reso alisa and harmo rose 
Slack didn't try
Wdym
he needs to try harder
I'm trying to do something cuz i only have Lightning and Ice as decent teams rn and my Shadow team is.... outdated
Been considering the possibility of attempting to use Alisa as a DPS but i saw some people saying she sucks for it lol
I mean ngl if im in hero and i dont have a condom i might as well just not try and just go for a retain
oh yeah, that happens 
Nah SSS capri definitely outdps S laurel but not by a particularly huge amount ig
Alisa is physical though
Yes, that would be a switch to another team
Alisa can never function on-field in dark warzone
I'm saving those two for the next free S rank character they will give, so i can grab my Bianca

Well hanying is soon-ish too btw
Solacetune not zitherwoe
Yeah by "trying to do something", i meant bashing my Dark team and just focusing at physical
Also do we know which element will Selena's new frame receive?
Yeah your dark will have to cope with funny lilith comps until a new dark tank/atker is out
it's not like you can do much without lamia, so yeah it's better to focus on physical if you wanna
Super conducting is like the most important reso for an amp right?
I think i saw someone saying it could be a mix between void and fire (?)
Nah we speculate physical or lightning but 0 hard evidence
Glorious spear is better
For most scenarios at least
Does that boost team damage?
SAR has consistency though
No it procs upon healing kinda like a memory
Def true that's why I said most scenarios
I honestly gotta try out axial ray in wz
I almost never do that anymore lol
Yeah honestly the difference is kinda small, permanent 8% vs non-perm 10% that just requires basic QTE management skills
But there has to be situations/teams where axial ray is objectively better, I just don't know which
I think I rather take the perm 8% because I can screw up my rotation sometimes
Do keep in mind that even though GS has cooldown, the cd ticks during timestop AND is separate for each character
Let's see how much i'll get later 
Okay
bro this is leader
Thanks
So for example if your amp buffs the attacker then you swap to tank, the tank won't share the same cooldown as the attacker
Bro is leader gatekeeper 
I see
Fair enough, once again it's purely a minmax difference
I wouldn't be here if I wasn't surrounded by sss whels
Nothing that would actually be game changing in wz I think
I just reso feral
I for once got lucky with bracket and didn't get whels
Just spenders lol
I probably should have done Capri
My ice score carried me though 💀
Maybe I'm dumb
as long as you don't enter wz on reset
2mil via 1m on physical 💀
I just got 1 million on electric
Eh doesn't matter, capro getting replaced before feral anyway
Who replace her?
Leader zone?
I don't think I'm in leader zone
Base S lilith is better than SSS capri 💀
elite then
I gonna do my last fire dance
Ouch that's why you gotta keep up with new CN releases 😭
Gonna make someone bracket go broke
Oh well that SSS will serve you well for a while
Lilith is still over 6 months away I think
At least in babel tower she can be a secondary dark
Mmh? In term of stats or buff
Everything
why so many cares abt babel nowadays
How much does she buff at s0?
Babel is mini ppc
S0 lilith non-memory has the same buff values as SSS capri with 4seraphine
It's easy these day
babel is one tap xD
Not with all the affix
Let that sink in
If you can’t consistently retain hero in 2nd half just snipe always enter late easy as that and you also might get promoted to legend if you snipe about 1h before it reset
S0 lilith: 20+20 amp passive and 20% dark radiation
Sound good then
Ss3 lilith: 20+20 amp and 30% dark radiation
Then SSS bumps dark radiation to 40%
more like my habit of entering wz on reset bites me back now
I don't even remember the last time I've been in leader
Good grief!
All without needing sig mem so you even have more slots for support mems if she's qte botting for whatever reason
Ur smurfing to oneshot legend i see
She shreds hard

I meant SSS* sry but yeah good grief indeed
womp womp ok its done
So is rn a good time for me to open wz or no?
Yes
no
Oh lilith doesn't have shred she's not a tank but yeah her buffs are insane
Do I wait for tmrw better or something?
She's an amp?
wow lilith glazing
Yes
when people are mad over how weak she is
Only people who hate Lilith are whales 😭
like 8 to 9 hours from rn is the sweet spot, doing a bit after is ok too
Realistically for any non whale she's an insane upgrade
Not everyone is meta slave like u 
I wish this game had live pvp
That'd be disastrous ngl
tbf it's more glazing to new amp passive than lilith
Her buff values in general yeah
its not even that much better numerically
But also for a f2p having a unit that swaps with lamia without a nosedive in dmg is also a big deal
Yes and no if you are not confident then no if yes then yes
so should i glaze lilith or glaze eos
Not everyone can easily just get SSS capri so even numerically for non whales lilith is a big deal in terms of buffs
it's gonna be the fire situation with mech
30 bars of dmg with lilith, 20 with lamia, 0.5 with daren 
You can always snipe at sunday
capri was always garbage
lilith isn’t much better
Interesting but I often forget to login on sunday I just leave it as a dead day to rush doing my GB then dip
quotes of all time

dark is still so hot trash
how to snipe 101
Higher score than physical sir
You’re going to skip it cuz ion is there every other rot
I mean eh that's very invest dependent but dark will naturally be worse than other elements as long as scire is alive

Karenina was the only unit people were debating skipping for a reason 💀
Man this returnee event is so good i can just use my alt and afk war zone over and over again
don’t get so overly happy with “f2p friendly” Lilith when her dmg is just not there and you still have a paid dark tank
NOOOOO
feral:
I accidentally got Liv Empy from the standard banner

Karen is in voucher shop
Honestly feral is an actual good unit but she also has a problem with minimum swap invest


quit pgr whilst its still early
Lux will give your teammates a 20% lightning buff which is A LOT in all competitive events. Feral's buff is only 10% is half of what Lux can do. Also add to the fact that Lux is way easier to obtain than Feral 21 since she can be farmed. You also don't need a sig for Lux to provide this strong buff to her other teammates.
Also with Feral 21 you will need to spend black cards to get her sig and her cub and get her to SSS for her to be usable like Capuccino.```
Although ss0 harmo feral vs ss3 r1 daren, feral still way more doable
because they were idiots
Scire was already a good investment, then people started trashing her compared to SS teneb who almost no f2p has
And then Lamia released
Scire got buffed
Teneb got nerfed
Scire got leaped
Then she had her filler time in Ion
Don’t try to frame it as though people who skipped scire on launch were in the right
So only lee is skipable
they skipped so they could roll mech on anniv banner that same patch
I don’t have to tell you how that choice went
Its for the bianca coating no
Ok that mech anniversarry reason is legit painful
That controversy
bianca coating was later
that was skip hyper
Oh ye
Scire was just “ew worse than ss teneb”
(fyi no one had ss teneb)
Daren is just in that weird spot where she's a genuinely awful unit but she's also kinda needed to fill the gap in dark team and later ion
LMAO
Even Old f2p ?
Yeah but she wasn’t in any way skippable at launch the misinfo was that widespread
Almost like lilith to some extent but lilith isn't nearly as awful
Liv holds 4dv 2guin right
Fyi i have 3s terb and scire s0 is better than him

Yeah I wouldn't say she's skippable necessarily but tbf multiple selector included her later on so it's not the worst decision ever
3s teneb doesn't do anything for his shred past ss
The bathlon trick died for him
Lilith is literally in a worse situation cuz she’s already DV slave day 1 in Ion and she is barely an upgrade over Lamia dmg wise with the added caveat that Projection Boss is literally 27 mil hp
wubbaboo mentioned
More spinning = more bathlon procc
Back then a lot of people had ss teneb tbh
Yes he cutie

Back when?
He was the #1 selector recommendation before lumi leap
no you fk that was garnet empy mech period alr no one had SS teneb because you were spending skulls elsewhere
Me with no tenebrin
Before gen 2 came to global
me with sss 21

you didn’t have ss teneb you just had S and people already said to pick Lumi long ago
skull is not available for standard banner purchases
Since Nier released Lumi was the ideal pick
And no, not everyone go ss him straight out of the bat
True ss teneb wasn't necessarily the wisest skull splurge (I did it)
You are spouting hot air rn thinking people had SS Teneb
they had Base S not SS
lmao my ss0 lightning team did worse than solo cw....
ok you as a sample size of 1 is just not cutting it
???
Probably cuz you don't know how to use the swap

I was on this server I talked to a lot of people who did the same lol
My first dark tank is 21 with 4 star weapon
surely
Once again it was mostly newer players who opted for ss teneb
I mean not everyone spending skull on terb, even at laurel debut
solo cw too op bro
Super old seasoned players wouldn't bother
If they were pgr general turds you really should have known better by then
esp wasting skulls on teneb of all people
solo cw solos nanami
(pulse)
solo vergil is going to outscore S+ Nanami
No I was always on gameplay help lol general is a different world 💀
Is vergil lightning dmg?
By Rosetta Patch you had to ss rosetta
then plume
then luna
then garnet
then empy
then capri
then mech
in no way was terb ever close to near skull priority
Day 1 player
vergil is chaos damage
s base vergil is going to outscore nanami

SS CA
Vergil will be Omni-elemental Omni-class
Missing out at: Alpha, Veritas
Guess that wasn't an immediate issue for me because I started pgr on an empty patch (roland)
vergil judgment cut for the eos event 🔥
did anyone mention EOS
Tbh SS terb did badly delay my SS empy but yeah
no you just picked a bad decision your timing had nothing to do with it
mathed out my pulls, 45 out of 60 pulls if i somehow cleard out cursed waves and their buddies. 5-6 more pulls from returning player nonsense
there's no way 5-6 story chapter, and a few arcade anima + interludes can cover an entire multipull right
see this is the problem you’re trying to argue for ss terb when you yourself knew it was a terrible choice
Otherwise for me specific join time I didn't actually struggle with skulls because I lacked characters that needed them 
My target score to beat
I can't I know
Tbf when solo luna was a thing ss terb did have value
yeah but you had to ss luna first
Is this legend?
No
cuz i'm actually cooked for not picking up that damn 1 multipull giveaway on syncrho announcement LOL
Lol that 3s+ brs
then like by the time you did thst garn was on the horizon
Do it like me pull dupe 
What's that
Cooked
Warzone
Lol I'm not arguing in favor of doing it, just saying some people had him already so skipping daren and waiting for selectors wasn't the worst idea
Dazlao
whel

bro is based for using BRS
February 15th hm?
Exal spotted
You can look up people bc spending?
especially if you couldn't get daren sig immediately
it was the worst idea because they all used it for sh*t like anniv banner or empy skin gacha
Hi is this a good time to start pgr
And wow mech dead
nope this is the worst year for glb
Btw i dont think daren is a major skip, i think it's lee
I'd say even with ss terb getting base S daren if you could secure her sig was clearly better
How so
skpping in pgr 
I follow my gut to raw ss3 her zero regeret
Just skip them skin n we r good
Lmao yeah THAT was a way bigger issue 😭😭😭
speed up until Dec 2025
Man I wish I could complete my brs 
wdym worst year, we're getting dmc collab its hype

Is that bad?
I only got her to SS
I personally "skipped" daren to save for sigs/characters
New unit every 2-3 weeks and good luck getting them and learning them before the next one drops
Esp if you aren’t going to play this religiously
dmc collab soon, skipping all units for peak motivation
Will the rewards make up for it?
1 week aether, 1 single week
Not glazing things up. But if this is your start journey at f2p it gonna be good, and there are alot of content by 2025 for you to hook up with the game. And new characters drop every patch
It was actually around the exact same time
Uh given how KR server is handling the speedup
lmao no
Terrible u have multiple banner to pull , awful if ur spender , awful since no time to learn them ,awful if ur f2p cus u have illusion ur having ton of bc while u actually dont.
if u pay then uhh u gonna have a bad time
About how much is the power difference from epitath to starfarer
Every unit has shorter lifespan
So news on how lamia affected daren's viability were still....new
Starfarer can't make you go anywhere
Starfarer was 1% of Hyper Mech Empy team dmg
Epitaph is 70% of Hyper Wata Empy team dmg
Epitaph solos
Massive one is a nuke the other is crying baby
I think that should be clear enough
I want you to picture the moon vs the sun (in terms of size)
Starfarer go sewer slide while wata chad parry the death himself
Incoming "but she can clear content, right?"
Or look up a simulation of that

That's how big the gap between starfarer and Epitaph is
🤔
Dmc collab triple s rank physical

And still loses to hanying solo
2026 pgr eos already
sss them all and they'll be the meta phys team :clueless:
So even if I get just S rank epitath that's stronger than my SS3 nanamech
there's a long way to go
Ss3 mech ???
2.022.0 100 100 S bike no cub feral score
Hero light

Yeah lmao
I thought u uninstalled
Ah, yes, Nanamech. The strongest ss3 in the game
why did you even go for ss3 mech 
sss+ mech is like 3x less dmg than S wata

Btw can wanshi do copium solo if someone doesn't have qu?
kinda a reach
Starfarer
- Nearly no Damage (can't even be Sub-DPS) for fire team
- 15% base shred which is locked to her signature memory set (25% at SSS)
- Slower than the slowestest snail
Epitaph
- Main-DPS of Fire team (like 70% ~ 80% of the team's damage output)
- 25% base shred (35% at SS3 and 45% at SSS)
- Fast AF
- Void Team's primary Sub-DPS + Tank till you get Ishmael
- ONLY unit Pyroath can swap to
I got her like that on her patch
Solo wanshi
Ok whel
njhl whel
Btw 15% base shred that's completely tied to her 4pc sig mem*

ss3 gamer
wtf is this fire
My boy is draining his wallet into the sewers
her sig can apply shred without mem
nice mobs eh
for a game that eos's tomorrow 
Sig is off-field shred
That too needs SS
Still better than whatever tf Ice had before
Someone here is gonna miss qu so I was wondering lol
and ss for actual off field shred 
Glory QTE
oh yeah surege
how much would it cost to buy a 10 pull at minimum lol
nanamech is so ass that pulse is stronger if you dont have sig + ss
Did mech even have the concept of ss3
6 USD
No
sss mech
Should be 0 dollars. You shouldn't buy any pulls
First unit to have segmented ranks was Daren
She didn't 😭
Yeah lmao
imagine not having pulse fr fr
||I don't
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Skill issue. Lose worse
skill issue
Ok she's bad but not THIS bad lol
It's funny cuz HI3 didn't have segmented ranks on release as well
But when they added it, they added for everyone
S sigless mech makes pulse a joke (on field at least)
Yea she is that bad

not for everyone
ss pulse
My scenario is that IF I grind all my BCs till it's dry atm i would end up with 50+ pulls out of 60 on Qu.
Yes this includes entirity of Cursed Waves and their buddies in which im surely have gone insane by then
You'll rather run S0 5* pulse
better than nanamech
it was a slow process of implementing them to older units
and not all s-ranks got them in the end even
no they are right
you have no idea what you're talking about 
On field too???
pulse can hold DV
S sigless mech can’t
I'm talking when she was released
||tho imaging caring about 6S for example lmao||
who in their right mind swaps to nanamech without sig and ss
sss pulse
Aka when she was the only fire subdps
Would you rather solo empy?
Even when Nanamech came out
pulse was better if Nanamech isn't SS + sig which itself is a waste

that’s cuz wz was squishy then
hyperreal.
Once again I'm talking on release
hypercar got released way later
Should i just live without Qu and preserve my mental health
Hyperreal was 7 months after mech
moving the goalpost i see
issok tho
No?
no, you need Qu
she's your partner after all
You need Qukra
grind my BCs for me
I literally don't even have hyperreal I was talking when she was actually needed as subdps for empy
Back then fire warzone was squishy as hell
idk
womp womp, play the story mode and give it a go
Yeah ik but like pulse was unusable on field lol
the thing is, pulse has more shred than mech
Remember back then Empy damage felt like nukes
you can do it
and its especially better against elite
And empy solo was a joke unless you're in elite wz
Who changes to s mech?
I remember having mech blue miss hamlet and give me no stack
I already made the statement that there's less than enough pulls around for me to reach 60

You can slap Pulse in that team with Shakespeare
s+ pulse do what?
then in that case, yes, nanamech is stronger
but only in that scenario. that was a short time, a long time ago, and you had to ss + sig her just to make her better on field
s+ pulse
@cyan portal .

fire is good on that ham? 
Hyperreal solo is good enough
What chapter are you on?
its funny how we were talking about pulse being stronger in general scenarios rather than in a very specific timeframe when hyperreal wasnt out yet 
Hanying half finished
Pulse qte bot: way better than mech
Pulse when there was no other subdps than mech: joke
Probably not one of the reason because of that
Timeframe differences lol

I remember going Empy Mech Palefire sss
and giving more field time to Lee than mech just because it was more fun 

did you finish the main story already?
Mech will get a leap, it’ll fix her 
up to wintry shackles, yes
i can fix her 
Shes leaped into lightning tank
I remember clearing babel with palefire, pulse and sophia

Good ol' day
oh, if you are up to 45/60
no, 33
Tbh 7+ months isn't exactly short lol mech was unskippable even for hyperreal team because rotations
45 if I go insane grind all Crused Waves
Both Cursed Waves
i forgot what the new one is called.
Mech was similar to daren where she was only important because there was no better substitute
that's 6750 black cards you will need
There are some pulls in celica class too, each enemy/instruction give you 10 bc
Tht's impossible in 2 weeks. Need some hella one time content clearing
Deprived matrix
Just call it DfM
derived from matrix
Deprived from black cards
fr 
he's cooked
Good to know, i get to keep my sanity
If synchro didn't jank out the payment value it would've been possible to get that amount with a dirt cheap purchase
God I love luna
I mean it's still technically possible but like, don't
Still got standard?
You have no idea how excited I am
Don't think so
Yes
but 1 i'm broke in blue tickets
2 i have to pick between Lamia and qu lol
Hope all Luna wanters gonna be Luna havers 🙏
Qu
it gets worse you can’t even 3x even if you wanted to
It's still like that in KR? 💀💀💀
Well that's an ez qu
ye and glb news is also the same
U got wata?
Ye
I logged to PGR and uninstalled just to claim Wata
and then the synchro announcement happened next day.
New Monthly is once per patch 30 day packs
Yeah 42-45 day patches
30 day monthly coverage
i don’t need to explain what’s wrong here
Any working codes currently?

Qu will give you a perfect ice team with the 2 free units meanwhile lamia is barely any better than lilith and could end up getting replaced by new dark tank as main dps
......
Kuro forced f2p era
the dark team rn is on a wheelchair
Forced2pay is officially over
do we get enough by the time the dreaded reset happened?
Literally 😭
lilith is better on ion
Yea
She got leap and turned into Lightning Combustion tank
assuming kuro does what they said in the announcement (which they haven't so far), yes
What's the 2k?
Bc
Aren't we getting like half of what they promised
Compensation?
Isn't it actually good
Half the bc sure 
Idk man
Doesn't seem to bother me
Kuro still generous af
Say sike


and lilith is a dv slave with barely any dmg on ion
and that’s her best team not the one she’s main dps on
sh*t’s fk ed
Si||German national anthem begins||
i saw someone call yuzhong a salty ex kuro employee
Wait what
Kuro drop sig selector up to hanying when
you're not taking id 1 
s+ teddy can outdps lilith then?
im guessing wuwa is profitable enough for them to do something this stupid
They'll drop it trust me
||And then lock be behind spending event||
ofc not but the point is that lilith as a crutch weak link is stronger than lilith as main dps
sig selector up to kamui tenebrion
Sig Selector upto Lucia Lotus
wait what is LIlith exactly in dark team?
Gfl 2 hyoe
fr tho, lilith damage after the nerf is pure *ss
replacement amp for Selena? so Lamia is still needed?

Does she even have a sig 😭
Kuro is cruel af
They gave me 2 signature weapons I already have + have 1 USB
But I can't now pull any sigs cuz integrated patch income sucks ass
"needed" yeah I guess
dark amp
They know how to torment me
dark team with lamia and lilith is a forced swap team
lamia is the core of the team still


"" "" needed"" " until she gets outdps by a new dark tank and becomes obsolete
lilith dmg is barely any better than Lamia but since the next dark boss is too tanky for both of them we’re expecting Dark Tank DPS soon
but but
CW
CW deals dark damage too right ?
Reflection clash tips?
surely baseline invest is enough for 580k?
Kill the boss fast
yesn't 
powercreeeeeep, powercreeeeeep
Playing this game after synchro started is a forced kiwi act
27 mil HP uhhhhhh
look up bili yourself
Kill them faster and use your strongest team which isn't Ice
umbrasurge is dark lighting
its not
Its just dark affix it has nothing to do with lightning
Then she ofc can beat lamia
Use broken team + learn proper rotations to finish the timegated bosses in time
Kusogames....
the affixes are only based off one element
Umbra CW doesn’t benefit from lightning buffs at all, only Dark buffs
Same with Lucia
then why is CW of all the chars is in the umbrasurge team
it's funny that people say this game do be generous but people actually forgot the giveaways are kinda necessary lol
cuz they want to sell new teams that’s all
You realise affix isn’t specific to anything
so she can last longer before she gets powercrept
Even duo dps wata+lucia probably struggle with shorthalt at baseline invest (and they're both stronger than lamia/lilith 💀)
And cw yakuza coating
Yata is Lightning Glaciation
Wanshi is Ice Glaciation
Imagine 27 mil
They didn't want CW to become obsolete pre-SSS
Bridget is Fire Burn but Nanami is Lightning Burn
Umbrasurge has nothing to do with light we can get umbrasurge dark tank or umbrasurge fire amp
Only TS still has all physical
cuz ts has crit scaling and def scaling

its basically just orange phys
Yes
^^^^^ the free stuff is often just needed to not make non-payers or light spenders completely hopeless
Ik
putting ts on a non phys unit is asking for it
Wait
Does TS float
yes
Phys will forever be cursed
we can probably get Lamia Glaciation leap soon tbh
Lamia Combustion
What does float mean btw? The 95-105% rng multiplier?
Anyways the elemental affixes have no logic for mix and matching
It can literally be anything
Fluctuating RNG damage
Ice Burn unit is possible
Umbrasurge Fire is possible
Phys was designed to be rng hell
firesurge
how strong is physical assuming autocrit + 105% float only?
Literally needs all 3 meta units to have human rights playable semi-rng
I wanna say insanely strong

well umbra is only receptive to dark buffs so clearly any lightning part is irrelevant
Lucia is a fire attacker but ion means she needs lightning buffs
Phys is too polarizing it's either amazing or dogsht
This is also the same reason why Ishmael is hot garbage for affix teams besides Glaciation rn

If you try to run Lilith Ishmael Lucia in Ion you get Dark Tank Ishmael instead of Lightning Tank
Lucia's kit function is completely different between ion and fire right?
Oh woe dark tank ishmael all the sources of her problems
not exactly
Wait wht
ults and mechanics are the same except for orbs
So her orb management being different makes her rotations very different or no?
The difference between fire and ion is
Ion has almost 50% higher dmg numbers on ult and cores
And ion takes 6 orbs to fill core while Fire takes 9 + Basic + 3 + Basic
otherwise identical mechanically
So basically ion enables ult spam more than fire?
ion makes sense too
yes
Ic ic
but umbrasurge with CW
ok so why is yata glaciation
explain that one first
Sounds fun to try even if I don't expect to get any scores on it 💀
Then you can tackle umbra cw “not making sense”
we’ll definitely be getting non lightning umbrasurge units you’re just sticking to the theming a bit too much
umbrasurge is purely dark
its not surge as in lightning anyways

i don't know tho 
yata is pure lighting
However, Kuro never made a mistake and never will
Kuro is doing weird sht with affixes
right?
It feels like they're trying to ease them into casual-ish play but the way affix is designed makes it absolutely not worth outside of meta
yeah so don’t bother explaining cw
mostly with ss3 ranks
they’re just doing it to keep her in some relevant team
and umbrasurge was the only one not added to the game yet
I wonder if poor ss0 lucia comps can have any hope in ion
selena will be umbrasurge
Who's even the 3rd ion unit with daren/lucia before lilith and startrail?
that's what my lucia would prob be assuming I used standard on hanying
Feral?
but I might consider using standard on pyroath instead of hanying
pyroath-scire-feral
I really really wanna know if an ultra copium s daren s feral ss pyro can have any hint of hope in a hero bracket full of skill issue players
Because it does change my planning tbh
@woven haven disorder affix is on the game?
with void
void
its the shieldbreak one
oh
But atp as f2p it's just a war between trueslash and ion
teddy is also there for god knows why
*void
Once again kuro doing unexplainable sht lol

she gives shred
with her core passive
core teddy
Source Infiltration - Cadence Integration
Trigger: Ping Cadence Orb
When Teddy has 9 Computation Points, she will gain 1 Cadence Orb. Maximum no. of Cadence Orb: 1.
- Upon pinging Cadence Orb, Teddy: Decryptor will leap into the air and use the chance to throw the bear head, which explodes when it hits the ground and deals 1000.0% Dark DMG. This attack deals 150% extra DMG against Homeostatic Forcefield. Gains Super Armor and 50% DMG Reduction during this.
- Pinging Cadence Orb while in Unanalyzed Mode also grants 75 Energy to Teddy: Decryptor.
that’s not shred
karen and teddy should been the meta 😭
Antiphase Waves - Overconstrue
Trigger: During Coupling + Release Basic Attack / Automatically triggered by holding Basic Attack until Coupling ends
Teddy can dodge by releasing Basic Attack early during Coupling. Overconstrue is automatically triggered if she performs an Extreme Dodge; Overconstrue can also be triggered by releasing Basic Attack at the precise time during Coupling or holding Basic Attack until Coupling ends. Gains Super Armor and 50% DMG Reduction while performing Overconstrue.
- Overconstrue shares the same Frequency as Coupling. In addition, each Computation Point increases the Base DMG of Overconstrue triggered by an Extreme Dodge or releasing Basic Attack at the precise time during Coupling by 20%.
- Overconstrue: Low Frequency throws an uppercut with the bear's paw, dealing 300.0% Dark DMG.
- Overconstrue: Medium Frequency smashes the enemy down with the bear's paw, dealing 500.0% Dark DMG and granting Teddy 10 Energy.
- Overconstrue: High Frequency smashes the enemy down with the enhanced bear's paw, dealing 500.0% Dark DMG, granting Teddy 30 Energy, and activating Overflow Zone that lasts for 8s.
- Overflow Zone heals the allies inside for 80.0% of Teddy: Decryptor's ATK and grants them Dark Radiation and Homeostasis Dissociation every 4s. Dark Radiation increases Dark DMG by 10% for 4s. While Homeostasis Dissociation is active, Teddy: Decryptor deals 100% Extra DMG against enemies' Homeostatic Forcefield, and other allies deal 30% Extra DMG against enemies' Homeostatic Forcefield.
when teddy heals herself or others with core or qte she gives 100% shieldbreak to self, 30% to others
its not shred its just dmg bonus
So she's not even theoretically usable to buff luna right?
no just use amp
Like if we ignore that amp passive is too important for void since it's locked to swap gameplay
luna has 2x dmg against shields
2.5x if sss
what’s the point of adding more when there’s still regular HP to chew through
amps buff all dmg
True
So teddy is just there for show
this sh*t says shred
Lmao what even is affix atp
Bad wording it just means shred on the dark shield
Not resistance shred
U kiwi anyway
it means they chew through the shield faster thats all
misinformation 

Guys, what's the use of R&D tickets??
To do r&d
So does daren skip ult entirely on her ion rot
Then why I can't use it on Qu's banner??
To eos
There's different colors
Yellow is for S rank character banners
Blue is for the A rank banner
And red is for weapon banner
yes but only after nanami
Nah its still bad tho
Who should I aim for in the blue one??
For A ranks it'll depend on what roles are missing in your teams, for the single-use S rank selector on the banner you should wait for Watanabe Epitaph's addition to the banner next patch
Next patch is 10th of January
wait I thought next patch is next week wtf
What role does Watanabe Epitaph have??
Wasn't it like 10th or 11th of jan
10th is next week :>
Next next week
More like 2 weeks later
no bro next week is until 5th 

u missed my sarcasm x
New Year isn't even out..
It's okay seath felt the eos
fak
It's next week
nah its next year
it was all in our heads all along
I'm gonna murder the next year jokes now
i mean
dmg increases or shred
same outcome, its just semantics
Any updates on korea
u want next week, next month or next year? 
they stopped spamming in disco
u should go to next door I'm in there
They happy with compensation then
oh no nvmnd they back at it
Oh
on it
If this was wz mob talk it would be very different but tbf everyone has shred field now
maybe in the past
He's the best fire tank by far aka he's important for his ability to shred the enemies' fire resistance (which makes a tremendous difference in dmg output) but also he's currently the best fire DPS by a landslide
So you mean mobs could dodge the extra shield damage?
That’s why we love new tanks
And he stays important when a better fire DPS is out in a couple patches because she needs him to do rotations with her
I wonder if lucia can sustain solo
i mean res shred
No
I heard she has one of the worst solos in history
Hmm.. I probably need a DPS since I got Liv Luminance..
Damn
She cant solo
Icic
And only has Lucia Lotus..
Luminance is really old and powercrept by a better phys unit called Alisa (you can get her for free from missions in Dorm)
But keep in mind PGR is very heavy on elemental teams
Aka you're intended to gather teams of each element not just one team to do all the work
Luminance and Alisa for example are for physical team
Lucia can solo me
She can’t solo -shit

Forever midcia


wdym
it's free, just use bc 
ikr
only cost bc
kuro is so generous
Kuro is generous and f2p frenly
Skipping Ishmael and lucia for lilith coating 

Ikr
do you know how much Solon sacrificed?

so f2p friendly
they must be nice to their spenders too right
By screwing over whel
neglible losses
yesterday a guy said "Omg A rank Noctis is better than Entropy" A lotus is good u dont need entropy
Who tf said we were winning (╥﹏╥)
ppl in twitter and redditors 
I don't want the whales gone cause
Well they fkn pay for my experience of the game
Plus getting hero wz from the whales leaving can't be satisfying
Reddit?
Hero isn't like a whalefest tbh
Diff between hero and legend is big
The comments were all pissed
Huh
pissed bcs it affects those loud f2ps too, imagine if it didnt affect them 
true


Not for the right reasons
link

but f2p is where the vibes and the hype are happening, whels are just bunch of nerds smh
Let's be honest
I think spender should unite with f2p to againts common enemy instead piting themselves againts each other like this...
Most DMC fans r gonna be the ones that are f2ps that save for 2 years+, or ppl that join for 2 days and leave
They ain't sticking or paying sht
yep 
F(kay)-ing
Just got pheonix edge with a random free summon, would that be enough for qu or do I need to get the 6 star one?
Fkn still works tho

LMAO
Is luna sig here on kr?
f2p but has access to whale shop

lmfao common enemy
wow this is like real life !!!!
whats the ice team now?
qu shukra and 2 qte bots
Fr
Finished every interlude, 39/60
am i still cooked?
im halfway thru Hanying chapter and did up to Wintry Shackles
Surprisingly pgr still 4.6 on playstore
its kinda difficult to immediately grasp why PGR is cooked for the casual
they probably are just excited for DMC collab and doesn't really think of the powercreep, only caring to get to the new stuff faster
maybe we'll see some blowback once they start to struggle to keep up somehow
finally someone said it lol
Fury was the geto to aether's gojo
they will be like, i have 15k extra bc ill pull gacha outfit, next day: another paid s rank and now theyre bricked
a f2p thinking they mean something to gacha dev is probably the biggest clown moment in any gacha community 
the amount of new students that came, got cw, and left at lvl 70 is ridiculous
🐳
in a sense they kinda do, both F2P and Whales add something to the gacha dev
word of mouth is kinda powerful
even cw wasn't enough to keep players in
imagine if dmc collab comes
wdym i cant cw everything and beat the whales
early chapter syndrome be like
f2ps add a lot to a server load 
@digital moat lmao does better then ss0 true slash despite karen having 5star weapon lmaooo
only this f2p is good at is showing you have a playerbase to the shareholders
this still scuffed too, can probably increase by 100-200k
imagine no daren
let me fabricate some numbers 
idk y'all are also feeling kinda entitled too as spenders when gacha companies can do as they please, even at their detriment of financial game
this fire zone is bruhge
like, spenders are more entitled than F2P, true, but like
fabricate me sum ayla pantsu 
at the end of the day the game will EoS one day or another
sNazz you're phat
and u got no control of it lol
nah im slim
4star btw
ur paying to play now not making an investment in the future bruh what

if it eos it eos
sss vergil was fun while it lasted
meanwhile there is a guy in my bracket who has more score then my total score with one zone
this channel just elitist
i mean some are probably just joking
Anyone know?
okay so i have like, Chaos Unsnarled up to Polaris Bond, and Half of Hanying + Noctis
how much BC am i missing
that i can get from story
does anyone know? i need the math rn
rex based???
story bc is like 400 bc per chapter?
aint no way they're 400 BC per chapter lmaooo
on avg theres 12 battle stages in the story
Per chapter
one stage is 30 bc so 360 bc


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