📨・meta-help

[fresh hill]

Wait..

[ripe stag]

7 seconds past/ 5 seconds

[pine slate]

E girl empress

[woven haven]

guide to sss+ lilith day 1:
Grab all free pulls available from event rn
roll and pity till you clear both banners (use BC/yellows to make the difference, up to 28k)
buy 20 shards from banner shop
buy 30 shards from PPC
buy 20 discounted + 200 non discounted shards for 232,080 vouchers

@opaque ridge if you want to know

[ripe stag]

HOLY 10 SECONDS PAST WHILE THE VIDEO IS 5 SECONDS

[turbid bridge]

232k vouchers

[quiet lily]

doable

time to farm

[hazy sandal]

[woven haven]

guys…?

Lilith is actually fk ing scuffed

[carmine mesa]

In what way?

[raw swift]

good or bad

[woven sable]

kuro dum as usual?

[woven haven]

free on her patch only

banner for her first copy and sig is permanent
the free pulls aren’t…

[glass bay]

Bricked

Kuso games

[woven haven]

You have to spend 12k bc if not on her patch i think…?

[dapper skiff]

@clever schooner yo jambu
Do you have any ref for solo wata?

[carmine mesa]

Oh boy

[raw swift]

BRUHHHHH

[turbid bridge]

Screw later joiners I guess lmao

[livid lark]

womp womp

it's truly EOS

[turbid bridge]

Ek joined the party

[dapper skiff]

Oh

Game actually EoS?

Lit

[livid lark]

my name looks like an operating system name

or a linux distro

[quartz dove]

So ur telling me that i need to hoard voucher and pray to heaven i have around 232k left after wansht when lilith banner drop

[livid lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1282565438894637057/20220403_194328.gif

[quartz dove]

Mental

[ripe stag]

How do you even do machi with Qukra

Test is taking 14 s

I can't accept this shi**

[livid lark]

skill issue

[dapper skiff]

Skill issue

Just don't play ppc

[quartz dove]

[dapper skiff]

So u get nothing instead of -3s

[woven haven]

only for day1 idiots

but lilith free copy is timegated so

good luckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[quiet lily]

bruh wtf u fell asleep watching machi catwalk or what

[carmine mesa]

Red orb to close the gap.

[quiet lily]

insta swap in no need to gapclose using other unit, qu will gapclose herself

[dapper skiff]

[carmine mesa]

Any push back from CN players for her banner not being future free?

[dapper skiff]

Surely he didn't forgot to change to cottie

clueless

[shadow holly]

even Chen is 12

[dapper skiff]

Cinema

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1277247077084037181.png

[uncut marsh]

lol, anyone failed to beat this stage in time that is f2p?

Literally got time out with 2 phace still having 30% hp

[dapper skiff]

What is that

Story?

Oh nvm

[uncut marsh]

Yeah fushen boss fight

[dapper skiff]

Haven't played the event

[quiet lily]

its cer

[uncut marsh]

The experience is misserable in this one as you are forced to rotate characters

[quiet lily]

surely trials char are enough

or theres no trials?

[shadow holly]

I remember the trailblazer in the first event was easy with trials

[quiet lily]

[uncut marsh]

That's the funny part trials are 5500 bp, I got 6200+

[dapper skiff]

Wdym forced

[still moat]

trials have sign + ss though

[dapper skiff]

That's how u play Cerberus event no?

[swift socket]

Can someone help me which set is Samantha and Gloria , I didn't found in list

[cinder turtle]

this event just swap and it's easy no?

[quiet lily]

i would use trials if i dont have sig weapon

[pine slate]

Noctis

[uncut marsh]

Once you ult you are basically forced to swap to another character

[quiet lily]

ye

[cinder turtle]

yeah

[dapper skiff]

Gloria is 5* memories

[quiet lily]

thats part of the event

[pine slate]

Just use trials

Iirc I beat everything with trial

[uncut marsh]

Will give a go to trials

[dapper skiff]

That's how u supposed to play

[quiet lily]

well not like any verberus can solo anyways

[swift socket]

Oh..... Maybe Samantha also 5* ?

[shadow holly]

this whole event gameplay is about maximizing the special ult usage count
cuz it's the only thing that does good damage

[dapper skiff]

Swap > quick time event on swap > you get 20 stacks for number > reach 99 and tap on the number to deal massive AoE dmg

[floral plover]

that's part of the buff dude, you do ults and swap to get dmg bonus and then the triple attack once you hit 99

[cinder turtle]

yeah

[swift socket]

Tysm

[orchid owl]

It's easy
Don't use noctis if you want to maximize damage though

[dapper skiff]

Male no rights

[cinder turtle]

poor noctics

[floral plover]

poor noctis indeed

[orchid owl]

Deadass he deals less damage than either of them

[woven haven]

ok so let me get this right

1. Lilith free pulls are timegated. Any excess left after banner are converted to standard banner tickets
2. You can get a copy early if you use bc or yellows to convert to the special gacha tickets
3. 60 Free pulls are from event stuff, presumably not free after
4. Banner is permanent but free pulls we dunno

[orchid owl]

[dapper skiff]

livWhat

[floral plover]

he deals less dmg than veritas iirc

[dapper skiff]

The misclick is diabolical

https://tenor.com/view/mremmet66-gif-21078568

[orchid owl]

Ain't no way

They massacred my boy

[floral plover]

sure kur sure

[swift socket]

Noctis is trash is that game mode xD just spam Vera and 21 , after 99 stack, use trio ultimate 🤣

[orchid owl]

Misclick or not you have that gif

[floral plover]

how's lilith looking?
by watching empress she looks like more dmg than Lamia, but not as crazy of a gap

[dapper skiff]

And you can't do anything about it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1282565438894637057/20220403_194328.gif

[orchid owl]

I don't have to, the facts speak for themselves

[woven haven]

ya

[dapper skiff]

Gfl2 is too based for this world

[floral plover]

ded

[orchid owl]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1113554666366709861/1289385251046559804/1289053282735751199.gif

[uncut marsh]

ok beat it just fine on trial characters

I guess scaling on them is better even despite less cp

[quiet lily]

bp is just a number

[shadow holly]

less WHAT

[orchid owl]

Nikke's equivalent of bp

Combat power

[shadow holly]

[dapper skiff]

Crazy

[steady otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/865899693468418049/1199236675470118982/image0.gif

[pine slate]

Collapse pieces

[dapper skiff]

Cod Points

[quiet lily]

gfl rotted

[raw swift]

cyberpunk

[pine slate]

Test is 11s 1 tap

[orchid owl]

Capitalism points

[pine slate]

But elite and knight 11s is mald

[livid lark]

what did you think it was going to be

[steady otter]

yeah, just hold evade button

[shadow holly]

where chaos 11

[steady otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/865899693468418049/1199236675470118982/image0.gif

[pine slate]

K whel

I don't think I can chaos 11?

[shadow holly]

it was overkill no way SS0 is that much less damage

[steady otter]

SS3 can 11s hell ?

[pine slate]

I saved elite and knight 12

[pine slate]

I'm ss squid

[shadow holly]

I had like 5-6 bars left but I don't have cow Chen set

don't think can 11 tho

[pine slate]

The edb is pretty irrelevant I think

[steady otter]

glory old set is chen

[pine slate]

Cuz u only cub skill once

[steady otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/865899693468418049/1199236675470118982/image0.gif

[ripe stag]

Teach me

[shadow holly]

I recycled it as soon as Kaleido came out

[pine slate]

Swap kaleido > 3+3 > hold dodge

[quartz dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1113554666366709861/1289385251046559804/1289053282735751199.gif

[shadow holly]

it didn't have resos or anything so I just threw it in the bin

[pine slate]

Watch windbell vid

[pine slate]

Wtf brick

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936177367230058496/1304291012532899911/200w.gif

[distant wren]

Just mash 3p+random ping really quick then hold dodge

[ripe stag]

Swap kakelido
Wait
We have distance covering updated ?

[shadow holly]

[shadow holly]

qu just teleports
she has hax

[steady otter]

switch skil didnt trigger at machi

just switch

read my first sec of video

[distant wren]

Why does switch with no swap in ping still gives energy tho

[steady otter]

ask kuro

[distant wren]

I don't get that lol

[woven haven]

?

Its fixed 12 energy no matter what move

swap in always gives 12

[distant wren]

Even if no locked on?

[woven haven]

only if there’s no detected target will it fail to give energy

[pine slate]

Even if u didn't trigger 3p?

[distant wren]

No the thing is

[shadow holly]

it doesnt

[woven haven]

Feral, Leap Empy and Noan don’t use ping on entry

they use another move

[ripe stag]

Glory on Eins DV right ?

Wait

[quartz dove]

It doesnt

[woven haven]

still 12 energy

[pine slate]

I get more energy with swap in vs no swap in

On Machi

[quartz dove]

Wait what

[pine slate]

Even tho there's no lock

[distant wren]

Wait so how come swapping from glory/kal still makes qu ult faster than just setting her as starter

[woven haven]

it just needs a target

[woven haven]

because swap in is considered 3p for core…?

and you can auto input 1 ping

[distant wren]

No she didn't do auto 3p

[quiet lily]

[pine slate]

Nono, Machi spawns far enough that u don't trigger swap in 3p

[woven haven]

oh that one right lmao

[distant wren]

It's max distance vs machi

[distant wren]

Oh wow lmao

So that's why

[shadow holly]

dw I didn't know too

[woven haven]

oh that’s funny

[distant wren]

[shadow holly]

just went to search thru kit to seem smart

[woven haven]

just a qu thing only fk her

[pine slate]

I tried starter qu

[woven haven]

anyways lilith free copy system sucks so bad

[pine slate]

Her energy sucked ass

Swap in from kaleido gave more energy but idk why

[quiet lily]

even with cottie?

[shadow holly]

read above

[pine slate]

Yeah

[steady otter]

(2)

[shadow holly]

[distant wren]

[pine slate]

[distant wren]

Yeah sure bro

[steady otter]

im global player

[distant wren]

Sure u didn't know when u used that in your vid

[shadow holly]

but yeah dazzal it's just cuz of this

[shadow holly]

you don't understand it's just because amp buff op frfr

[pine slate]

Ye I saw

Why qu has so many weird stuff in her kit

[steady otter]

https://imgur.com/a57l0nb

imagine global player reading

[shadow holly]

cause she's one big cancer tumor

almost as big as cringeson weeb

[zinc charm]

what is this star war looking ah

[dapper skiff]

No one bet an eye to it cause everyone been soloing with qu only

[shadow holly]

it's best girl core

[dapper skiff]

[zinc charm]

how do you felt about the upcoming paid content in the new version

[still moat]

i retained

[shadow holly]

[steady otter]

practice first
when u got something wrong
then go read

im not reading first then practice

[zinc charm]

wait can someoone fill me in if theres change about monthly pass

[shadow holly]

nothing is holding me here except for sunk cost fallacy and the fact that Daren is in this game

[dapper skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1154393445113274399.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=clueless

[rose yew]

dalao

[dapper skiff]

How to learn a new Chara:

• download the game
• pull the Chara
• watch tutorial
• read (optional)
• play

[zinc charm]

i never read

[shadow holly]

change is called doubling down and making it set in stone

[rose yew]

kuro tutorials are diabolical

[zinc charm]

i blaze my blindness with this one

[zinc charm]

oh hell nah

[steady otter]

How to learn new cons rot

• watch someone gameplay
• practice cecillia class
• read the skill

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/865899693468418049/1199236675470118982/image0.gif

[zinc charm]

this is false

[rose yew]

I just jump straight into wz

[dapper skiff]

U forgot to put "optional" on 3rd step

[zinc charm]

you dont watch video, you should just jump straight into ppc and wz w it

[rose yew]

only to find out I forgot to unlock ss0 skill

[dapper skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/758147515647918100.gif

[shadow holly]

actually I mean
we technically still have a few days for them to potentially do something before it comes out officially on KR

but

this company has already proven to be restarted and regarded

[cinder turtle]

between qu cub and fish cub, which one I should prioritize

[dapper skiff]

Mad based

Relatable

[floral plover]

wz score is always better when it's first attempt and you don't know what you're doing

[steady otter]

that was my method on cn
bcs i cant read bing chilling word

[zinc charm]

i have my finger crossed for this matter

[shadow holly]

just between these two, fish easily

[zinc charm]

since it is a tricky matter

this is rare miss by kuro 😦

[dapper skiff]

When you turned off your brain for 1st attempt in wz, your performance is put to skill 100%

[cinder turtle]

are there any command to see the cub skill setup

[steady otter]

choosing built on cn

• watch ppl built on leaderboard

[shadow holly]

priority always the same
sig passive -> ele DMG passive -> EDB passive -> flat ATK -> whatever else like cub personal damage

[zinc charm]

real

[steady otter]

gray ravens cant help u when playing on cn

[meager iris]

just

[steady otter]

just watch someone acc

[zinc charm]

i read the news

oh hell nah they didnt even do to the monthly pass

[quartz dove]

They still cooking

[quiet lily]

L kusogame

[quartz dove]

Surely

[steady otter]

L

[quiet lily]

shouldve move to zzz

[zinc charm]

they miss with how they handle paid content

[quiet lily]

better dev

[meager iris]

[zinc charm]

evelyn got me acting unwise

[meager iris]

surely they won't keep it guys

[shadow holly]

frfr hoyo gooned the game back after getting backlash for censorship

[swift socket]

Which set is better for support qte for solo wz support.
2nd - 4Gui and 2 Samantha
1st - 2 Gui+2 Samantha + 2 Gloria

[meager iris]

trust

[zinc charm]

storage is gonna killed me

with how hoyo treat their game's storage

[shadow holly]

which team
preferably you want 4davinci on your healer so you can do QTE resets for better debuff coverage

[meager iris]

dv

[steady otter]

im tired of hoyo

[quiet lily]

depends on the holder. whether the holder can triggers 4guin in 1 qte or nah

[swift socket]

I used 4 DV on Tank

[zinc charm]

i still hate how they didnt improve the story telling method

[shadow holly]

well cool but that's suboptimal for wz

[zinc charm]

still the boring ass yapping session

[shadow holly]

just move the DV from tank to ur healer and use smth else on tank

[quiet lily]

im tired of hoyo too, but kuro fked up. im going back to my first love

[swift socket]

Oh

[zinc charm]

especially that last part of penacopeak

[swift socket]

I use 4Dv and 2 Gui on heal , I saw someone say use 4DV on Tank and I changing set now uwu

[steady otter]

we need another hack and slash game competitors

[meager iris]

no lantern gang

[quiet lily]

ayo true

[zinc charm]

though i gotta give credit to their anim

[meager iris]

just quit gacha

[zinc charm]

they cooked that with zzz

and hsr too

[quiet lily]

nuh uh

[steady otter]

gacha addict

[nova forum]

Just quit gacha

[meager iris]

they know how to cook, bu they don't give a f about u

same as kuro

[zinc charm]

i still remember when my friend the first time pulled me into hsr, my first ever commited gacha game

[quartz dove]

Zzz hype as fck tho

[zinc charm]

yeah but the storage aint friendly

[meager iris]

yeah, I used to have good life after quitting TOF and genshit, then my friend came and told me about pgr and how f2p friendly it's ets...

[shadow holly]

yeh it's kinda just
varying depending on situation

so better just make some generic presets to swap mems quickly

[meager iris]

I got pranked

[steady otter]

my first gacha game is HI3
no men, all gurl with huge booba

[quartz dove]

TOF REFUGEE

[meager iris]

oh man don't remind me

[zinc charm]

sadly i play gacha for the men

until i realize its all booba

[meager iris]

if we talking greed, ain't no way there is worse than TOF

[woven haven]

GLB fk in the ass by sync
CN fk in the ass by lilith and 4 srank in a row

Goodbye PGR it was nice while it lasted

[zinc charm]

i am waiting for that formal announcement of quitting pgr

[thorn creek]

PGR already EOS

We're just a part of ur imagination

U have to let us go

[meager iris]

don't leave me a lone

[zinc charm]

oh i am having schizo

[quartz dove]

I quit when fiona cant work with icarus unless i whale claudia matrice, and they refuse to release dice cus of "bALanCe" advice from leviathan that unironically fcking quit the game too

[nova forum]

And yet there are still people supporting kuro

[swift socket]

I also noticed that , ppl said some unit can't trigger 4 gui in 1 qte, I currently building for Ayla and Selena , they can trigger 4Gui in 1 qte or not ? Plz

[quartz dove]

[thorn creek]

cuckro

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/jawir-gif-410050309598509221

[quartz dove]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-iya-hitam-putih-meme-indo-gif-25939166

[quiet lily]

both cant iirc

[swift socket]

Oh 🥺

[zinc charm]

though i am still equally excited for the the integrated version

[dapper skiff]

*wasn't

[zinc charm]

gimme that big BLACK JUICY CARD PLSS

[steady otter]

ayla has short qte, so 4 guin is fine with double qte
for siren, nah u cant 4 guin, she has long ass qte time

[meager iris]

i don't even know what you are talking about, I quit the game when they brought Lyra and the other electro guy

[quiet lily]

where them qte sheets

[dapper skiff]

Gone

[quiet lily]

ripge

[thorn creek]

ur a qte

[zinc charm]

the sheet also EOS too

[thorn creek]

[quiet lily]

ill qte ur lamia

[steady otter]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1T_5CnVAMJEvpvt3PUVdYkQj8veVem3ooY-S0_yTXvvI/edit#gid=0

[thorn creek]

nonononnononnononononoo

[zinc charm]

every guide has EOS because pgr is gonna be EOS

[quiet lily]

[quartz dove]

LMFAO THAT DOUBLE BANNER INCIDENT HAHAHAH AND KURO THINK THEY CAN BRING THAT HERE WITH NO BACKLASH

[swift socket]

Oh tysm

[zinc charm]

[dapper skiff]

Atsu took it along when he's going to his grave

[swift socket]

I'm new player , still learning, you guys helped me a lot here 🥰

[dapper skiff]

No update

[meager iris]

yeah once I saw this I quit immediately, it was already expensive with 1 banner

[zinc charm]

serious question though for all kind of spender, are yall gonna keep playing it (wether this is still spending a bit/still full spending/ going f2p for async duration)?

[meager iris]

I will keep playing and spend the same amount that I spend every patch

won't spend less won't spend X3

[orchid owl]

Probably

[dapper skiff]

We just play

Either get 1 BP or 3 BP

[zinc charm]

i probaly gonna just buy 1 bp

[steady otter]

Siren qte time is 2,483 sec
long ass qte, dumbest amplifier class

[dapper skiff]

It will always depends on you whether you actually want to spend money for those bp

[zinc charm]

i am in dilemma

[quiet lily]

im joining brickistan

[dapper skiff]

[zinc charm]

whether to spend it on wuwa monthly or pgr monthly

[meager iris]

I will just keep the rc that I buy packs with to monthly and bp

[orchid owl]

It's not gonna matter

[zinc charm]

i need those bc

[quiet lily]

plan to skip few future char

[zinc charm]

man i am not a spender

[orchid owl]

Bp gives no bc

[zinc charm]

oh i meant the bc monthly pass yknow

[meager iris]

wuwa isn't worth spending on imo, characters s0 already op

[zinc charm]

the one that costed around 28-30 rc

[quiet lily]

20 pulls and whole lotta vouchers are huge

[steady otter]

Shukra qte time is like 0,2 sec ?

[nova forum]

I wanna speak something but it's gonna get me banned

[meager iris]

you don't even need every character

[nova forum]

[orchid owl]

Not saying it's useless

[stray siren]

F2P or spending the same as always, I haven't decided yet. although, I can buy X2 as long as the patches last more than 40 days

[meager iris]

tbh I might just top up to get the spending event done and that's it, free is free

[zinc charm]

i heard integraated gonna last about 6 weeks?

[dapper skiff]

But I want me mommy maxed out so she can dominate me

[zinc charm]

meaning each patch has only 2 weeks

[orchid owl]

Except all patches drop simultaneously

[meager iris]

depends whose your mommy - not mommies

[zinc charm]

i know

i still have no problem though

[orchid owl]

6 weeks for all 3

[quartz dove]

Its fine

[zinc charm]

gimme that x3 the reward for bc

i am gonna glazw that reward with my liquid

[quartz dove]

Surely 1 purchase pack give 300% value of normal purchase

Rite ?

[zinc charm]

[stray siren]

So, maybe I can buy x2, and it would not be any significant change. i think

[zinc charm]

keep dreaming

[dapper skiff]

clueless

[stiff elm]

yk, instead of kuro making things 3x more expensive, why didnt they make things 3x cheaper...

[zinc charm]

cn gonna riot for that

[meager iris]

oh yea, :dude trust me

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/roberto-royber-cavalo-roberto-caballo-roberto-caballo-royber-gif-1431259904852519096

[stiff elm]

okay but like, 20 pity banners for event themed

[meager iris]

that's too much

[zinc charm]

still too much

[meager iris]

no way they are doing this

[shadow holly]

bro most CN ppl are in support of global not being fked in the ass

[quartz dove]

Where u even get that sentiment from ?

[zinc charm]

i like being fcked in the ass

[meager iris]

yeah they want us to get it so they can cry and get it too

[quartz dove]

[zinc charm]

i mean

[meager iris]

[shadow holly]

I made it up

[quiet lily]

dev listeneddd

[dapper skiff]

I'm taking you to the #🙋・helpers-feedback

[orchid owl]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[dapper skiff]

You don't have rights to resist

[zinc charm]

PLS NO

[quiet lily]

no access

[stiff elm]

im going to sleep, yeah... peace

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/headache-memes-discord-memes-epic-very-funny-gif-26492864

[quiet lily]

2 mins til reset, why u sleep

[steady otter]

no access

[dapper skiff]

Special admin stash and goon channel

[zinc charm]

i am waiting for big booba hanying to save my physical team

[stiff elm]

I still hear the fart sound accompanying this

[dapper skiff]

Only the goonest can access

[zinc charm]

if they make noctis frame i am swiping my card for that

[meager iris]

nothing can save physical

[stiff elm]

anyways why dont you guys drink some

brain implosion energy

[quiet lily]

[stiff elm]

10,000 grams of pure caffeine

[zinc charm]

doesnt matter, booba is booba

[stiff elm]

cause you can't overthink if your heart stops

[meager iris]

you got cow, useless booba

[zinc charm]

doesnt matter

booba is booba, joystick is joystick

[stiff elm]

https://youtu.be/azKiV4fMksY?si=AEyctjLCbTJiWy-U

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/ninomae-inanis-takodachi-tako-no-horni-horni-gif-26104396

[stiff elm]

nah nah bro what is that pc layout first of all

why is everything like a brick in the corner of the screen

[quiet lily]

[zinc charm]

i am not ||down bad|| when i type that

its just how i feel, i am appreciating the beauty

[kindred bobcat]

Anyone has machi time on Ss0 Qu

[quiet lily]

windbell vid

[steady otter]

https://youtu.be/bBsxEovWnK0?si=6yQ0whFtyqgUMi6Y

chaos 11 hell 12
with full / a bit higher invest

[ripe stag]

Wait

[mighty tusk]

oh fck, a full sss account

[ripe stag]

THEY ACTUALLY IMPROVED HER ANIMATIONS EVEN MORE BEFORE RELEASE

LILITH OH MY GAWD

[clever schooner]

Posted long time ago

[mighty tusk]

#📨・meta-help message

[cyan karma]

Is this man temporary?

[mighty tusk]

not worth building

any uniframes are not worth building

[cyan karma]

Idek how they work even

[zinc charm]

they basically have their own unique mechanic but limited to special stage for them

but yeah dont build him

or any uniframe in that matter

[dapper skiff]

Thanks jambu

[quiet lily]

full?

[dapper skiff]

Pwowq too

[quiet lily]

[mighty tusk]

full

[quiet lily]

[dapper skiff]

Lmao

Joining on reset

What fluc

[quiet lily]

dark fire

[cyan karma]

Oh

[dapper skiff]

@mighty tusk

[cyan karma]

Anyways I got a fish but idk how I can get a weapon for her

[mighty tusk]

167

[dapper skiff]

Oh

Pretty chill then

[mighty tusk]

alpha and vasago on fire

[zinc charm]

yall we will be getting S selector on luna patch?

[mighty tusk]

and alpha keeps dashing away like a loser

[dapper skiff]

L

[pine slate]

Is it fire and dark

[quiet lily]

yes

[dapper skiff]

Who want to see me do solo wata

[zinc charm]

solo what

[ripe stag]

Guys
Solon fixed her

She freaky no more

[zinc charm]

ngl i like this shot

may i download this image?

[ripe stag]

But her freaky face

[pine slate]

I prefer backshot

[dapper skiff]

Kay

Now bend

[steady otter]

SEGS TIME

[zinc charm]

i came when i see that face

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/836100799859654663/1316511998653108294/ea506027c90446f2aafffa95a0db1faa20241127.gif

[hard sparrow]

Is this the best I can get with this teams 😭 someone give me some tips on rotation, builds etc... hero rank btw

[dapper skiff]

How many of em got sig

[hard sparrow]

Epitaph - SS0 + sig + r1 + h1
Lee - SS0 + sig
Empy - SS0 + sig + h1

Lamia - SS0 + sig + r1 + h1

[pine slate]

Yeah looks low imo

Solo lamia right?

U prolly need better planning

[hard sparrow]

I saw on yt they're getting 2m+ with only that

[sleek tusk]

Are the recommended sets viable?

[dapper skiff]

[pine slate]

Not all

[sleek tusk]

4 pc Ji Bo & 2 pc Darwin, or 2 pc Ji Yuan instead? For Qu

[mighty tusk]

this is my fire score with 222 011 011

[pine slate]

Use the bot here or ask ppl to be safe

[sleek tusk]

Ok what are the commands?

[hard sparrow]

How

What is your rotation

[mighty tusk]

#📨・meta-help message
this is one rot that I know

[quiet lily]

#📨・bot-info >build shukra

[dapper skiff]

Empy no reso?

[sleek tusk]

What's harmony

[hard sparrow]

No

[dapper skiff]

https://youtu.be/pl4_iCVxqv0?si=qi9PEU2C_ogURnKO

This was 154 fluc only, but R2 on empy

You can prolly aim 2mil with that invest

[pine slate]

K whel

[dapper skiff]

2mil should be bare minimum even with normal "proper" wata rot

[quiet lily]

features which allows u to put have 2p mem effect on weapon. need signature weapon

[sleek tusk]

oh ok

[quartz dove]

Kuralao

[dapper skiff]

Now idk if I should record solo lamia first or solo wata

https://tenor.com/view/nanami-nanami-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-nanami-burger-gif-3426560742319433332

[quiet lily]

solo cw on both zones

[dapper skiff]

Give me 15 minutes and I'll be done then

No fun

I'll do solo wata

[quiet lily]

[kindred bobcat]

What zones do we have this 2nd half

[dapper skiff]

Dark fire

Pin has it smh

[kindred bobcat]

Solo lamia here we go again

[raw swift]

Should i pull chrome or hyperreal:lee for the new player banner?

[dapper skiff]

Neither

Both are quite outdated units and heavily underperform

[raw swift]

Ugh

So should i just skip the newplayer banner?

[dapper skiff]

You can always just pull the latest unit from it

Or wait till next update for them to add the latest unit to the standard banner to pull

Free S rank in a way

[quartz dove]

Is next patch will put qu instantly on standard ?

[frail hinge]

Luna: oblivion
Cursed technique: Dark matter manipulation
Domain expansion: Den of dying stars

[dapper skiff]

Based on kr they would yes

Even Luna too

Iirc

[frail hinge]

Ah yea
Without qu van I do a wanshi × chrome × ayla or does wanshi fully make chrome obsolete so I use bambinata instead

[raw swift]

I don't see shukra anywhere 😅

[dapper skiff]

Well

Should have worded it better

But she'll be added by next patch

[zinc charm]

@raw swift i like your name

[dapper skiff]

It after their debut

[frail hinge]

Lee: hypereal
Curses technique: Time Dilation
Domain expansion: Convergence of then now and later

[raw swift]

Thanks

[dapper skiff]

The normal qu banner is still available to pull

[zinc charm]

usually its 2 patch after their debut

[frail hinge]

Qus overrated anyways the real queen is LUNAAA

[dapper skiff]

60 pity 100% drop
No rate off

[zinc charm]

but we can expect qu on blue check on the integrated version

[raw swift]

Aaa ok understood

[frail hinge]

Liv: empyrea
Curses technique: Fiery judge
Cursed technique: Purified Hell

[frail hinge]

BTW there aren't gonna be any issues mix matching the tank and amp for luna right

Wanna use feral cause he's resonated and watanabe cause duh

[abstract heron]

idk

[mighty tusk]

[zenith thorn]

phat whel

[frail hinge]

This is technically f2p possible

Assuming they literally do not have any other teams

[dapper skiff]

Swap dark score?

[mighty tusk]

I just hope I won't get sniped

[mighty tusk]

solo ofc, r0 lamia and only ss daren

[dapper skiff]

Huh

[frail hinge]

OH YEA NEW WZ I GET TO MALD AGAIN

[dapper skiff]

I thought you have a PHAT dark

[mighty tusk]

I can play swap dark next patch thanks to the selector

[dapper skiff]

Brick

[frail hinge]

Ayla: kaleido
Cursed technique: Paint manipulation
Domain expansion: Visionary's canvas

[pine slate]

I have a phat d-

[dapper skiff]

What invest foe fire tho

[mighty tusk]

222 011 011

[dapper skiff]

[frail hinge]

Can't you already swap with dark? Sss selena and ss daren is swap worthy no?

[mighty tusk]

daren hits like a wet noodle at ss

[quiet lily]

no ss3 scire poopoo swap

[mighty tusk]

I need ss3 for that

[frail hinge]

Could be ss3 wr can't tell

[quiet lily]

no sss selewho also poopoo swap

[dapper skiff]

Last time u showed it, it was just because a bee stung you

[frail hinge]

Aaahh she's base ss?

[dapper skiff]

[zenith thorn]

he already said he's ss0

[frail hinge]

Obviously I didn't get the message ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zenith thorn]

[pine slate]

[dapper skiff]

Smh

[buoyant hornet]

My 2nd acc is dead last in 1% I will never get the 66 skulls before ppc overhaul huh 😭

Like can't the whels sleep for once week

[dapper skiff]

Just sleep

[buoyant hornet]

Is it exactly the top 100 that get 1% rewards?

[dapper skiff]

SS0 can only dream of 1%

[buoyant hornet]

Or is lower rank allowed to get it too

[dapper skiff]

[dapper skiff]

It's based on total players that played ppc

[quiet lily]

depends on server

[buoyant hornet]

Well at least I made it there for two days ig 😭

[quiet lily]

huaxu shows 1% cutoff

[buoyant hornet]

So SEA has more than 100 because larger pool

[pine slate]

Yup

While eu is like top 60

[buoyant hornet]

Is eu server that small?

[dapper skiff]

Top 135 people got 1%

[dapper skiff]

Yes

[buoyant hornet]

How's wz like in EU

[dapper skiff]

That 🤏 small

[buoyant hornet]

So is it harder to rank up?

[dapper skiff]

Idk but I feel like their legend bracket isn't enough for all S+ players there

[buoyant hornet]

In wz I mean

[buoyant hornet]

Whel server huh 💀

[dapper skiff]

Wz promotion is still based on how many hero bracket exists before the cycle

[buoyant hornet]

Ohhh interesting

[dapper skiff]

1 hero bracket will have 2 people that can promo to legend

8 hero bracket promo is barely enough for 1 legend bracker

[shadow holly]

hero slacc legend death
as usual

[dapper skiff]

Assuming all of em got 100 merit

[buoyant hornet]

So after ppc overhaul is leaderboard completely gone or is it moved to onslaught

[buoyant hornet]

You're in eu iirc?

[shadow holly]

[pine slate]

I think exppc lb is still there

[dapper skiff]

The myth

[pine slate]

Just irrelevant

[shadow holly]

yeah lb still there

[buoyant hornet]

Does it actually affect anything or is it just there

[pine slate]

Affects nothing

[frail hinge]

Ppc overhaul?

[buoyant hornet]

Iirc new ppc gives 60 skulls for 1.8m and 6 more for onslaught participation?

[shadow holly]

just remember guys, 1.8m is still no rights
only rights after 1.85m for the title

[frail hinge]

Ohbyea
When luna gets added will a void boss be added immediately or it'll take a while

Also what ppc overhaul

[buoyant hornet]

I can't even guarantee 1.8m every week

[buoyant hornet]

Ppc completely changes next patch

[woven haven]

2 mil or bust

[frail hinge]

Completely?!

[buoyant hornet]

Removed test-elite, leaderboard rankings don't affect anything anymore

[frail hinge]

What changes?

[shadow holly]

can I bust

[frail hinge]

Ah-
That
Actually kinda sucks..

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah now your skull gains will completely be based on your own score milestone where 1.8m is the maximum

[woven haven]

look at least they treat garbage f2ps nicely in ppc
no void ion or ts bosses

just massive HP inflation

Exppc*

[buoyant hornet]

It has pros and cons tbh

[woven haven]

Emperor has more than double Madeorea HP

[frail hinge]

More ppc shards
Pro

Being unable to d measure against other people

Con

[woven haven]

Ballard has 1.7x MD HP

[quiet lily]

emperor next patch?

[frail hinge]

Wait no its not even more shards assuming 1.8m js based on the top ish scorers

[woven haven]

Cradle has almost 3x HP of Tifa

the HP inflation is very real

[frail hinge]

What pros?

[woven haven]

Onslaught newest boss is 66 million HP

[buoyant hornet]

Random but I'm really tempted to spend a week in advppc just to see how my updates teams do compared to when I used to be unable to do exppc

[shadow holly]

??
it's literally easy 66skulls a week unless ur bricked
equivalent of top 1% rewards rn

[woven haven]

not worth it

Trust me adv is so brick now

[buoyant hornet]

Ss0 r1 qu without glory and with ss 5* kaleido gonna struggle to get 580k or what?

[buoyant hornet]

Lmao f2p runs on new bosses are gonna look like warzone gameplay

[frail hinge]

I mean not everyone is a top scorer right

I assume I wouldn't yet much more points beyond what I already get

[buoyant hornet]

Why is there too many people there now?

[mighty tusk]

nah, they'd still use cw over using solo nanaknight

[quiet lily]

trailblazer vs Qu

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah and if no 1.8m then it's 54 which is the same as my usual 5-10% run so I think my acc gains a net positive

[quiet lily]

1.8m = guaranteed 66 skulls. that easy

[buoyant hornet]

Which trailblazer exactly (onslaught or normal)

[quick rover]

Is it a bug

[topaz path]

Who i should i get in the 5 star weapon choice

[quiet lily]

both

[frail hinge]

Wai
so Base 54
But if you hit 1.8m then 66?

Whats onslaught?

[mighty tusk]

intermediate ppc vs advanced ppc

[topaz path]

Who should i get in the 5 star weap choice

[quick rover]

O im dumb

[quiet lily]

you still in fetus ppc

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah it's funny because ironically I often get 1-5% on bad boss weeks but get bricked on easy weeks because everyone knows what to do 😭

[shadow holly]

fetus PPC is devious

[quiet lily]

choose any which u need. for 6* weapon selector, choose rigors weapon

[mighty tusk]

not veritas?

[shadow holly]

honestly imo better get tonitrus for Alisa harmo

[frail hinge]

Being a 5-10% in a world of 1-5%s ain't easy

[quiet lily]

o wait i forgor we speeding

ye choose bow

[buoyant hornet]

I mean my wata did well-ish against tb and I doubt my qu will do any better without glory/lucid dreamer so I probably won't even bother 😭

[woven haven]

@grand jay live changes

• Red stage 1 dmg slightly buffed, stage 3 dmg nerfed
• Yellow all stages dmg buffed
• Blue stage 1 nerfed, stage 2 buffed
• ionization sequence all stages dmg nerfed
• ult 1 dmg nerfed, ult 2 dmg redistributed (base dmg nerfed, max dmg from card rank buffed)

[shadow holly]

even without sync Hanying would've been like 4.5 months away only

[buoyant hornet]

It's not base 54 but 54 is the score most people can do even with lower invest

[frail hinge]

Lilith?

[frail hinge]

Ah noted noted

What's onslaught BTW?

[buoyant hornet]

Basically new ppc tier, unlocks when you hit 1.8m in exppc

There's only one boss that's ultra tanky

[frail hinge]

Rewards for killing him?

[buoyant hornet]

You get to try up to 3 different teams and your highest scoring team is saved

[turbid bridge]

3

[frail hinge]

A new challangenjs always welcome mwehehe

[buoyant hornet]

Ewww

[frail hinge]

OH THATS FUN

[shadow holly]

[mighty tusk]

1 boss 3 weakness. And in cn we have 5 bosses

[frail hinge]

Can finally settle the beef between my lightning and fire teams

[woven haven]

its 1 boss 3 variations

[frail hinge]

No elemental buff right?

[buoyant hornet]

Idk if there's rewards yeah but participation alone gives 6 skulls out of the 66 we mentioned before

[shadow holly]

one boss 3 different stages tho who cares anyway

[woven haven]

no lmao they don’t

[quiet lily]

no matter how many variation it is, we just one tap it

[buoyant hornet]

Oh so basically I was right but wrong wording lol

[woven haven]

The balancing is wacked alr

[mighty tusk]

really?

[raw swift]

is it kinda like norman where you do it all at once?

[shadow holly]

ofc there is
you would timeout if there wasn't any

[buoyant hornet]

Fire will win 😭

[woven haven]

dark has highest buff number at launch
still worst scoring

[quiet lily]

[buoyant hornet]

You talking about ppc?

[mighty tusk]

they fcked up something in the code iirc?

[raw swift]

onslaught

[frail hinge]

But
whays The point of having 3 teams take room if onw team is gonna be buffed

[buoyant hornet]

P sure it doesn't have AP I think?

[raw swift]

i think my ice team is potentially stronger than fire but i have yet to optimise her rotation

[buoyant hornet]

Something tells me my dark will be the best scoring because it's the only element other than ice that has a good solo dps and my ice team basically doesn't have a tank 💀

[frail hinge]

My fire is actually full for the first time in my life but I'm uncertain

Lightnings got 21 and cw, infinatas, 1 reso and 2 reso

With fire
Lees got 1 reso
Wata's got none
Liv has a 5*

I only recently got wata to ss so so far fire hasn't overtaken lightning in wz

[buoyant hornet]

Wanshi save my ice ppc runs I BEG

[woven haven]

the buff is sht

picking up orbs on the floor to get dmg

good luck doing that while fighting

[shadow holly]

one boss
3 stages with different element modifiers
you save scores on two of them and that's your total score

[quiet lily]

sophia minigame

[frail hinge]

Will a void boss be added instantly?

[woven haven]

on units like karen and lamia esp

[buoyant hornet]

Ok maybe lightning will outscore after all lol

[buoyant hornet]

Lmao that luna boss mechanic?

[frail hinge]

I thought only the top score gets recorded?

[shadow holly]

normal PPC doesn't have void or affix bosses

[shadow holly]

no
in onslaught you just choose which two of the three zones' scores you save

[buoyant hornet]

Lmao onslaught has affix?

[woven haven]

Ok so Lilith got majorly nerfed

[turbid bridge]

That’s the dark buff in onslaught

[woven haven]

Woo

[spiral merlin]

💀

[shadow holly]

modifiers buffing affix damage yes

[buoyant hornet]

Bleh 😭

[frail hinge]

Hard to tell

Even wuth wz it's tricky cause one element or the other gets buffed through weather so that makes the question of which is the stringer team unclear

Cant wai t came waittt

[spiral merlin]

Dark scoring is so bad rn

[turbid bridge]

Smh free unit debuff again

[buoyant hornet]

Wtf

[woven haven]

dude live server changes are like v2 levels

of changes

[spiral merlin]

Surely they're balancing around dark tank selena

[frail hinge]

Oop

[buoyant hornet]

So what's the nerf :/

[woven haven]

like lilith got whacked with the most live server changes in the history of pgr

[shadow holly]

she got stick legs again
that's the nerf

[woven haven]

this might as well be her v4 beta

[shadow holly]

[spiral merlin]

I Foresaw™ this

[buoyant hornet]

Oh about that, wanshi patch will make changes to wz including giving each element its own active weather

[frail hinge]

What are the nerfs tho, does rhus mean she has to rot with lamia alot.more?

[frail hinge]

WWOOOOOOO

[quiet lily]

*phys attacker

[analog coral]

wait did they send lilith to hell LMAO

[woven haven]

• Red stage 1 dmg slightly buffed, stage 3 dmg nerfed
• Yellow all stages dmg buffed
• Blue stage 1 nerfed, stage 2 buffed
• ionization sequence all stages dmg nerfed
• ult 1 dmg nerfed, ult 2 dmg redistributed (base dmg nerfed, max dmg from card rank buffed)
• SS0: nerfed the extra dmg after yellow consumes 1-9 orbs
• SS3: core passive multipliers nerfed
• SSS0: redistributed extra damage to ult2 based on card rank
  CUB sig passive nerfed

On top of that existing issues still are here

Aside from her ult everything has targeting/range issues

this is from friends

[frail hinge]

Whay are the nerfs!

[analog coral]

so basically the lilith hype got killed

[woven haven]

free unit debuff you can’t get day 1 as f2p, can’t whale to sss+ as whale
can’t get for free if you join late

[zenith thorn]

i mean

respectfully it's boring

[frail hinge]

Seems like they're trying not to make her an overpowered powerhouse

[analog coral]

so is lilith worth throwing rozen out for to run duo lamia-lilith or is lamia solo still here to cope

[zenith thorn]

1.30mins of absolutely spamming

[buoyant hornet]

So she's no longer stronger than lamia or?

[woven haven]

barely stronger

[woven haven]

lamia lilith daren swap

[mighty tusk]

and at what invest is that?

[frail hinge]

THATS AMAZING THO

[woven haven]

equal ofc

[spiral merlin]

Uhh

[mighty tusk]

no

[zenith thorn]

let him delulu

[analog coral]

lmao so now its actually rotatable

[mighty tusk]

wait, then what's primal projection hp in hell then?

[woven haven]

ok so let me explain this first

1. Lilith free pulls are timegated. Any excess left after banner are converted to standard banner tickets
2. You can get a copy early if you use bc or yellows to convert to the special gacha tickets, only recommended if you are rolling 2nd copy
3. 60 Free pulls are from event stuff, presumably not free after
4. Banner is permanent but free pulls we dunno, probably not
5. for whales they can only roll 2 copies max

[buoyant hornet]

I'm guessing her nerfs mainly impact her ppc viability according to what you listed

[frail hinge]

Why not
Swapping is good!
Whatever dark tank comes up would mean both lilith and lamia still get action unless they make it obscenely strong

[shadow holly]

probably still 22m as with all the new bosses like shorthalt and cradle

[zenith thorn]

standard banner LMFAO

[frail hinge]

See see!

[woven haven]

changed in beta so we dunno rn

[spiral merlin]

Whales can only what

[woven haven]

no debut banner at all

[buoyant hornet]

It's amazing for f2p because we finally don't have to solo lamia if we don't have mega invest capri and daren

[woven haven]

Themed/Fate Themed do not exist at all

[shadow holly]

it would've been swap anyway
now Lilith damage is crippled too so dark is still ass

[spiral merlin]

The special banner is only a 2 time thing?? It doesn't get reverted to effectively a normal banner or anything?

[zenith thorn]

no fate Lilith?

[frail hinge]

And what abo4nfor the whales? Would it be bad for them

[spiral merlin]

That's crazy

Who let kuro cook

[frail hinge]

Feels like they're setting up for a dark tank maybe

[mighty tusk]

prob undercooked this patch to make the next a hyped patch

[zenith thorn]

it's raw

i can hear it mooing and eating grass

[turbid bridge]

Lilith doesn’t appear in normal banners until after her patch ends

[quiet lily]

selewho patch cooked probably

[frail hinge]

Idk, if lilith was insanely strong and a dark tank gets added incould see lamia getting cw treatment

[zenith thorn]

s+ required

[buoyant hornet]

It's not bad she's still a definitive big improvement to dark team but it's likely not enough to make dark nearly as strong as other elements

[quiet lily]

[mighty tusk]

oof...where do I get the feeling some lilith fans are gonna be angry at selena for the difference in treatment

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah that's very likely

[quiet lily]

i mean, selena deserves better anyways

[frail hinge]

So the only issue is damage numbers?

[mighty tusk]

surely they won't make her kit crappy

[quiet lily]

surely they will not put half of her kit in memories

[buoyant hornet]

Watch her be ss3 minimum to have field time

[frail hinge]

So with her not being obscenely strong even with a new dark tank they probably wouldn't leave lamianout rhe mix. Even if for really short rotations

[quiet lily]

ayo isnt that already required right now

[dusky quarry]

Look at Selena getting shafted from the story

[buoyant hornet]

Pretty much, she's an improvement to the team as a whole but it's not like, for example when wata got added to fire team and elevated the entire element to heaven

[dusky quarry]

And obtainable via another roguelike

[spiral merlin]

One of these things is not like the other

[frail hinge]

I see this as a W idk about yall
Damage numbers < Gameplay

[turbid bridge]

Lmao dark score is so bad

[frail hinge]

OK fair watanabe was insane

[zenith thorn]

@gritty walrus huaxu broke pls fix

[mighty tusk]

void?

[turbid bridge]

Dark score

Weak af

[woven haven]

its ion

[spiral merlin]

Huaxu always breaks in new patch it's fine just go by the team characters

[buoyant hornet]

Surely they won't put her shred on memories

[woven haven]

it says void but its ion

[turbid bridge]

Oh yea there’s some issues with zone 3 display

[zenith thorn]

patchly issue

[mighty tusk]

surely huaxu won't break next patch right

[buoyant hornet]

Lmao yeah whale invest really doesn't get that much out of lilith

[quiet lily]

thats an insane dark score

[frail hinge]

Hm
Yeah they're setting up for a dark tank prolly

[mighty tusk]

daren the deadweight? or lilith semi-carrying?

[frail hinge]

Wonder how she is gameplay wise
I heard there wasn't that much to her kit

[quiet lily]

lamia the sleeper

[buoyant hornet]

Why is ion team listed as void

[mighty tusk]

huaxu broke

[turbid bridge]

All of the above

[mighty tusk]

I can't tell which is more cursed.
lightning or dark

[buoyant hornet]

Huaxu is f2p friendly it hates ion

[quiet lily]

dark team went from most expensive team to most troubled team

[buoyant hornet]

At least it's not expensive anymore 😭

[frail hinge]

Eeeeeh dark'll be fine
We just gotta get rid of Karen

[mighty tusk]

still need ss3 daren though

[quartz dove]

How is ion team on void

[mighty tusk]

ss lilith should be enough

[quiet lily]

its not expensive if it doesnt exist right right

[quartz dove]

[quiet lily]

wrong wording

[still moat]

dark is low because its daren weather, wait next week

[frail hinge]

Yeet her of the facebof the earth ehynhas she outlasted several tanks amps and even attackers

[buoyant hornet]

Tbh I'd describe lilith as a big win for f2p but basically no gain for high spenders

[quartz dove]

Dark will be low till new tank

[woven haven]

uh dude

[quiet lily]

shush dont defend daren, we doomposting everything

[woven haven]

banner stays but no free rolls if you join late

[mighty tusk]

where's your lilith?

[vale raft]

PGR Banner Info

1. Banners in Punishing: Gray Raven are broadly divided into 3 types

a. Character Banner
b. Weapon Banner
c. C.U.B. Banner

2. Depending on gacha rates and pity for guaranteed S rank drop, there are 2 types Omniframe banners -

a. Banner with 60 pity — has a 0.5% rate for S rank Omniframe
b. Banner with 80~100 pity — has a 1.5% rate for S rank Omniframe

Standard Banners

• Standard Omniframe Banner - You can choose A rank characters in this banner while the S rank is random if you hit pity. This banner has 40 pity if you are a newbie and once you hit that pity the pity changes to 60. This banner also has a S rank Omniframe selector tied to it which is only once per account.
  Note - If an A rank Omniframe is on debut, the specific A rank Omniframe will have 100% droprate on this banner. Otherwise every A rank Omniframe is on 80% droprate. The S rank pool of this banner gets updated every 2 patches.

Weapon Banners

• Standard Weapon Banner - Weapon banner with 30 pity. Cannot select which Signature Weapon you want, so the Signature weapon (6 star) will be random once you hit the pity.
• Target Weapon Banner - Weapon Banner with 30 pity. Signature weapon can be selected in this banner according to your choice. The selected signature weapon will have 80% droprate while the other 20% droprate is split inbetween the other 2 Signature weapons in the banner.

Event Banners

• Event Themed Banner - appears every S rank Omniframe patch. This banner has the debut S rank Omniframe at 100% droprate (you have to hit the pity and it's guaranteed to drop the debut character).
• Event Fate Themed Banner - same as above but with 80~100 pity and 1.5% rate (mentioned above in point #2)
• Event Arrival Banner - this one is basically the rerun banner of PGR. It sometimes comes with 2 or more Omniframes on rerun at 70% droprate (hit pity then it's 70/30).
• Event Fate Arrival Banner — same as above but with 80~100 pity and 1.5% rate (mentioned above in point #2)
• Anniversary Banner - Comes out every Anniversary. Any S rank can be selected and they'll have 100% droprate just like Themed banner. This too has a Fate banner option.

Uniframe Banner

• Target Uniframe Banner - Uniframes are niche characters in PGR. They don't have much use. Their banner has a lower pity which is 10 pulls. They usually have 80% droprate but if an Uniframe is on debut they'll have 100% droprate.

C.U.B. Banners

• Target C.U.B. Banner - the pity is 20 pulls. If a certain C.U.B. is tied with the debut S rank Omniframe, then they'll have 100% droprate during that patch, after the patch is over they'll have 80% droprate when selected.

Useful Information

• A rank Omniframes are always guaranteed on 10 pulls in any Omniframe banner.
• Arrival and Fate banners are generally not recommended to be pulled on as Fate banners take more Black cards than normal banner and Arrival banners have 70% droprate.
• Uniframes must be avoided at all cost as they have no purpose anymore.
• C.U.B.s are more or less for whales. F2Ps can ignore.

[quiet lily]

spooky bot

[woven haven]

oh what how did that trigger command

[quartz dove]

At least lilith doesnt need high invest rite ?

[spiral merlin]

.banner

[mighty tusk]

@livid lark any idea?

[woven haven]

But yeah lilith is not perma free unit

[buoyant hornet]

Nah both can extend rots and with Lilith's doubled amp passive value I expect swapping them would be worth it even with XXI for a couple seconds of cd filling

[quiet lily]

first word

[woven haven]

i have to stress this

[turbid bridge]

He did some missions already so he can’t do them now

[still moat]

nah they will definitely hit 10M mark

[woven haven]

she doesn’t have doubled

[frail hinge]

Wai wha
How does that work?

[still moat]

they already hit 8m with lamia weather

[frail hinge]

So people outside this patch can't get her for free?

I was wondering why there wasn't any news of sss being mandatory

[woven haven]

needs sss heavily

[buoyant hornet]

Well I meant for people who get her in debut patch I wasn't thinking about the rest 😭

[woven haven]

since daren is the DV holder you want to be able to qte her twice on each

[frail hinge]

How do the rolls work? Like do you get tickets from an event or smth. Is it the standard banner?

[mighty tusk]

ss lilith can be somewhat equal to ss lamia but still needs sss?

[woven haven]

and timer doesn’t line up too well without qte cd reset

[frail hinge]

Dangit

[buoyant hornet]

Doesn't she have 20 + 20? That's double what a sub sss selena could give

[woven haven]

S lilith = SSS capri that’s all
her buffs above S are not big

in terms of raw buff

[frail hinge]

Aether can we make amends so you can talk to me again

[woven haven]

ofc no seraphine helps

but you lose guin and potentially eins too depending on invest

[glass bay]

no

[frail hinge]

I'll asknno stupid questions trust

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah so overall she's much better for f2p because she's actually useful even at base S compared to capri being useless at even ss + sig lol

[frail hinge]

And for spenders sss helps alot as per aether

[raw swift]

wait is it recommended to get lilith at ss

[mighty tusk]

then again, it's a low bar considering this is capri

[frail hinge]

He's so fussy

[woven haven]

yeah the very specific category of f2ps who are late enough that they don’t have sss selena, but exactly early enough to be on lilith patch instead of taking hiatus

[woven haven]

to sss still

[shadow holly]

SSS or skip

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah the bar is in hell ngl but I'll take any improvement tbh

[woven haven]

“free” unit debuff means free unit invests

[glass bay]

he just hates u

[buoyant hornet]

Dark team was plagued by being unrotateable unless you spend lol

[frail hinge]

@buoyant hornet could you ask aether her the mechanics behind getting lilith for free work he isn't picking my calls

[quartz dove]

I mean what she get at sss anyway ? Also can she proc 4 guin in 1 qte ?

[frail hinge]

So fussy

[buoyant hornet]

You basically play an event game mode that gives you unique currency for Lilith's banner

It's coins or something like that

[shadow holly]

#📨・meta-help message

[frail hinge]

Oo

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah it's a limited demographic tbh

[pine slate]

Just wait till she release on glb

[woven haven]

S 20 40
SS3 20 50
SSS 20 60 QTE CD reset

[pine slate]

Tf u gonna do with that info, ur not getting her anytime soon

[woven haven]

also wrong just please stop typing

[frail hinge]

By synch plan calculations were getting her next week

[buoyant hornet]

Well then answer his question then since you know lmao

[quartz dove]

Qte cd reset.....

[mighty tusk]

#📨・meta-help message

[quartz dove]

Another anti f2p mechanic

[woven haven]

Commandants can obtain Lilith: Daemonissa from the [Avarice R&D - Normal] and [Avarice R&D - Limited]. Every 20th draw is guaranteed to be a Special Reward; each Special Reward can only be claimed once. After obtaining all Special Rewards from the Normal R&D banner, it will be registered as complete, and any excess remaining draws will transfer to the Limited R&D banner. The Limited R&D is available after the Normal R&D has been completed.

Event Duration:

2024/12/19 (after maintenance) - 2024/1/23, 05:00

Normal R&D Rewards:

Special Rewards: “Lilith: Daemonissa” *1, “Lament of Night's Debauchery” 6★ Weapon *1, Avarice Tokens *200
Common Rewards: Weapon Enhancer IV *1, Memory Enhancer IV *3, EXP Pod (M) *2, Cogs *5000

Limited R&D Rewards:

Special Rewards: “Lilith: Daemonissa” *1, Event Construct R&D Tickets *1500, Event Construct R&D Tickets *1500, Avarice Tokens *250
Common Rewards: Avarice Tokens *4

Event Currency:

• A total of [Avarice Normal R&D Tickets] *60 can be obtained by completing event missions, which can be used in both the Normal and Limited banners (R&D consumption prioritizes the Normal banner).
• Black Cards and Event Construct R&D Tickets can be exchanged for [Avarice Limited R&D Tickets] at a rate of 200 : 1. Each [Avarice Limited R&D Ticket] can be used for 1 draw within the R&D event.
• After the event ends, unused [Avarice Limited R&D Tickets] will be converted into [Basic Construct R&D Tickets] at a rate of 1 : 200.

Card Wares Shop:

Permanent: “Billy” CUB (limit 1), Inver-Shard: Daemonissa (limit 20), Cogs *5000
Limited-time: “Conceited Mirage” Coating (limit 1), 6★ Weapon Resonance Material (limit 3), 6★ Memory Resonance Material Pick *1, Booster Structural Part: Billy, Support Skill Components *30

Event Rules:

• During the event period, the [Themed Event Construct] and [Fate Themed Character] Research types will NOT be available for Lilith. Lilith’s appearance in [Arrival Construct] and [Fate Arrival Construct] events after this version is unaffected.
• This [Avarice R&D] event has an independent research pool. Its guarantee progress is not shared with other Construct R&D pools, and will not be inherited by other R&D pools outside of this event.
• After the event ends, the [Avarice R&D - Normal] banner, Card Wares Shop and its permanent items and mission rewards will remain available in future versions. The [Avarice R&D - Limited] banner and Card Wares Shop’ limited-time items will not be available.

[buoyant hornet]

I mean she's voucherable so she's probably just the new #1 priority for f2p to save vouchers for after wanshi

[frail hinge]

Wha
The spenders need a reason to spend bruh

[quartz dove]

[frail hinge]

She's free(f2p friendly)
Useful at base s(f2p friendly)

We brokies can't be too greedy

[buoyant hornet]

Honestly now it makes sense she gets sig and cub lol

She's free but only for a limited time

Unlike wanshi, echo, etc

Also her sig is bleh anyway all it's important for is harmo 😭

[frail hinge]

I really.dont think f2ps can complain about the game being anti f2p with the whole synch plan drama

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah tbh

[mighty tusk]

her harmo is 4 cottie iirc so.,...

[quartz dove]

Omfg dude can we just remove the goddamn swearing censor already