📨・meta-help

[woven haven]

Its very much not a fair comparison because both Ishmael and Pyroath have absolutely insane qol and previously useless moves now become a crucial part of the rotation

[buoyant hornet]

Trueslash is an illusion it doesn't exist

[ripe stag]

What's the buff difference Between other amps and Lilith's btw ?

Anyone ?

[grand jay]

Pyroath has a QTE nuke at SS3 and Ishmael unlocks 4 ult rots at SS3

[shadow holly]

20% ele buff diff

[woven haven]

its not a bridgeable gap between lucia spending 12 orbs vs just basic attacking for the same energy

[grand jay]

Those are pretty substantial tbh

[woven haven]

And then the QTE dmg

opens up so many avenues

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah classic kuro but once again it's much worse, not unusable i.e SS0 daren and capri

[woven haven]

getting to snipe qte kills while on wata is actually highly relevant to fire dmg

[buoyant hornet]

Kuro desperate for money though lol

[lean pulsar]

Oh yeah cappucino

[grand jay]

Oh speaking of I get to try out SSS Fire this rot yippee!!!!!!

[slender aurora]

i mean...unusable is a very drastic word. sure, the gap between ss0 and ss3 is massive, but from what im hearing they're still playable at ss0

[grand jay]

Dark is on this rot and Mixed should be Void and Ion/TS

[lean pulsar]

if youre not skipping unless ss3 its usable

[buoyant hornet]

Wait that's on top of her 20% + 20% base amp buff?

[woven haven]

Yes if you have ss + sig + dlt they’re playable
But once you move up to ss3 you basically are playing a different character entirely

[ripe stag]

Like which rank

[grand jay]

Yes

[rare badge]

btw Qu's fast ult was only when matrix is up right?

[shadow holly]

sss

[buoyant hornet]

This is exactly what I'm trying to say yep

[lean pulsar]

ironically i'd like an SS3 mandatory char like scire now. it would save me so much BC

[woven haven]

20% 20% base amp
20% on heal

10% on heal ss3
10% on heal sss
qte cd reset on any swap at sss

[buoyant hornet]

60% buff on entry is actually wild

[grand jay]

So net overall it's 60% and 20%

[woven haven]

Mind you the QTE CD reset is kinda mehge

[buoyant hornet]

Wow so even just ss3 gets her 50%

[woven haven]

If you’re forgetting the swapped in unit always has their qte up

So its only relevant for the one other qte slave

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah is the sss dmg output big enough to warrant prioritizing her vouchers as f2p?

[lean pulsar]

but kuro wont make ss3 mandatory chars anymore because they want people to pull chars

[buoyant hornet]

I could just get her ss3 if not

Between her and wanshi I mean

[slender aurora]

im certainly not doubting that ss3 is huge, but when youre acting as if ss0 is utterly, 100% unplayable; well then thats when we start getting a bit disingenuous no?

[woven haven]

you know skipping anyone is literally asking for death when newer units are usable in 4+ teams

[woven haven]

Its not disingenuous because you can feel the kneecapping at ss0 once you have ss3

[grand jay]

Yeah

[woven haven]

Like if you’re only used to ss0 sure its playable

once you up to ss3 you will realise how much time you wasted learning ss0

Because that was absolutely crippled rotations limited by the lack of access to certain qol

[pearl abyss]

I have spent 30 cents on this game

[buoyant hornet]

I'm just wondering how much does someone need to pay to consistently/semi consistently get ss3

[pearl abyss]

im i a whale now?

[woven haven]

a bit more than bp + monthly each patch

[ripe stag]

Wait
She doesn't get that amp class buff up at SSS ?

[lean pulsar]

SSS for f2p will take something like 16 patches if you get 30 scars from ppc

[shadow holly]

cuz its already 20/20 at base

[buoyant hornet]

Well I'll never have ss3 so ig I won't have that problem (thankfully?) 😭

[ripe stag]

Ah

[woven haven]

you have standard banner select

You can go up to ss3

[buoyant hornet]

Interesting and that doesn't sacrifice sig pulls or anything?

[woven haven]

But speaking of unplayable hanying still takes the cake

[buoyant hornet]

Never even thought of the refresh

[woven haven]

SS0 Trueslash is basically non functional

The math is there

[buoyant hornet]

So when that banner comes around whose ss3 do we prioritize

[still bolt]

The question "Who do I use that banner select on now" is ever so changing whenever I step into here

[woven haven]

you can’t even reliably do any dmg with ss0
hanying

i wish i was joking but they calculated the math exactly so ss3 hanying is the bare minimum

[slender aurora]

sure, but we shouldnt be telling people ss0 is unplayable, just that ss3 is a huge upgrade

[lean pulsar]

Does 5* weapon hanying work with SS3

[woven haven]

no

[lean pulsar]

yeah so

[buoyant hornet]

This isn't the current one, I'm asking about after the S selector in the banner refreshes (as a NOT new player)

[woven haven]

she needs sig wep and dlt

[lean pulsar]

in terms of sig priority... Just use the selector on a base S rank that you skipped the prior patch.

otherwise you cant afford sigs anyways

which is so much worse

[buoyant hornet]

That's on Ishmael patch iirc

[woven haven]

that is a horrible idea with sync

you’re automatically losing double/triple the weeks of wz from missing one unit

[still bolt]

I remember hearing it resets but don't remember when exactly

[lean pulsar]

Again, whats your reccomendation for f2p

[woven haven]

the same as usual

[lean pulsar]

Skip sigs?

[buoyant hornet]

Either Ishmael or lucia

[still bolt]

Ah

[woven haven]

ss0 + 5*
sig if you get lucky
nothing else

f2p income hasn’t changed

[azure barn]

Ishmael yeah

[woven haven]

nothing has changed for f2p only spenders

[buoyant hornet]

It will

[lean pulsar]

it will increase actually a bit

[woven haven]

Its scaled to the patch already bozo

[lean pulsar]

because duration

[azure barn]

they already scaled it based on the integrated versions so why would it change?

[woven haven]

Its only 3x income when its a triple patch

[buoyant hornet]

It's only scaled to 6 weeks regardless of actual intended patch length

[buoyant hornet]

And 2x when it's double, same principle

Remember glb was getting literal 4 week patches

And 6 weeks wasn't the norm

Now we're consistently getting 6 week patch income

[slender aurora]

the burnout per patch gonna go crazy

[woven haven]

6 weeks is the norm though you get 7 week patches on big milestones to offset

[slender aurora]

6 weeks of the same thing

[buoyant hornet]

Yeahhh

[woven haven]

its the same in the end

[buoyant hornet]

Very rare though

[woven haven]

literally every other big mommy waifu glb patch is longer than their cn counterpart

for no reason

other than to offset the loss from shorter skip patches

[buoyant hornet]

Btw will lucia be on standard banner by Ishmael patch?

[nova forum]

Idk if I should mald Lilith PPC rn or w8 after next CR rotation

[buoyant hornet]

Eh fair but ig at least there's SOME increase in income but most importantly is it's faster

[azure barn]

for my 2nd Standard Selector, should I get SS3 Nanami or SS3 Pyroath

[lean pulsar]

Our longest patch is 37 days which is less than 6 weeks

[buoyant hornet]

Also have we seen yet what's the exact rewards from the new synchro game mode/event?

[still bolt]

I need a whole chart for what I should be doing as a f2p at this point dawg

[nova forum]

37 days?

[woven haven]

glb was speeding up by an avg of 1 week per patch before this
you save like 6 weeks of bc weeklies total across the entire year what good does that do its not a significant increase

[woven haven]

ok now you’re definitely bullsh*tting

[buoyant hornet]

P sure nanami ss3 isn't AS huge of a change as the others?

[foggy ridge]

just dailies/weeklies/events. if kuro doesnt fk this up, nothing should change the usual for f2ps

[nova forum]

Longest iirc was 42?

[slender aurora]

100%, cw's patch was >40 days

[woven haven]

its more futureproof considering its tank

[slender aurora]

i vividly remember that

[still bolt]

Nah I mean like when to use standard banner select on who, prior to it refreshing

[buoyant hornet]

Hmm fair but she's not the #1 prio right?

[foggy ridge]

oh 💀 good question

[buoyant hornet]

I'm guessing maybe lucia?

[still bolt]

And who to prioritize sigs on

[spice parrot]

how to stop the game from changing my team every time i enter a stage in ppc?

[foggy ridge]

technically for the upcoming characters, all except for wanshi lucid dreamer

[still bolt]

Like absolute game changer must have sigs

[azure barn]

thing is, Fire is so strong that would you even need the powerboost at that point?

[woven haven]

ok i found the list that guy is bullsh*tting so hard glb had 45 day patches once

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah this change is really annoying

[foggy ridge]

i think luna needs it, pyroath needs it, nanaknight needs it

[woven haven]

yes considering ion is also on the list

[foggy ridge]

idk about solacetune just yet

[spice parrot]

so theres no fix???

[buoyant hornet]

True tbh

[woven haven]

20% def shred
her ramp up core dmg can ramp up +1

[buoyant hornet]

Not as far as I know

[woven haven]

Access to dlt

[azure barn]

she's like the most reliant on SS3 cuz Trueslash literally doesn't work without it

[lean pulsar]

Oh yeah I was looking at the last 9 months. There was that monster right before

[foggy ridge]

ok well she will need it too aswell then >:(

[buoyant hornet]

So she's 2nd standard banner priority?

[foggy ridge]

oh we talking sig

[woven haven]

ok what kind of argument is this

everyone is going to invest in fire and you’re going to stop and go “good enough”?

[azure barn]

oh mb

[frail hinge]

Guys Ishmael gameplay actually loos fun when irs not wz or am I tripping

[woven haven]

sigs

[woven haven]

you are tripping

she’s just an iframe ult machine

[frail hinge]

Dangit

[woven haven]

there’s no options in ishmael kit

[frail hinge]

Worse than qu?

[woven haven]

you only have orbs, dodge, hold dodge and basics

[azure barn]

it's in the context that other teams would need the boost more than objectively the best team in CN

[buoyant hornet]

Did kr merge start yet?

[woven haven]

i mean fire isn’t best anymore

Ion is

[frail hinge]

What about nanami? Since she's got those new orb mechanics

[buoyant hornet]

Qu has options if you're not worried about time lol

[woven haven]

she’s fun

but very linear

[frail hinge]

Wz nanami is just ARITIMETU SPEKTAKURU. YA!

[woven haven]

its just 6orbs -> yellow -> basic -> hold atk -> ult

[frail hinge]

And Ishmael is somehow worse...
Wow

[woven haven]

burn rotation is just 6 orbs -> hold yellow -> ult

[buoyant hornet]

She's the strongest tank rn right?

[frail hinge]

Syesbgotnoptions tho right

[woven haven]

no she’s not worse

Ishmael and Nanami are just streamlined kits

they don’t suffer any issues that qu has

[frail hinge]

Kuro desperately needs a non time based mode for us to actually be able to enjoy the animations

[woven haven]

wrong game to be looking for that bull

[lean pulsar]

There is

[frail hinge]

What issues does qu specifically face again?

[foggy ridge]

i mean theres that stylish event mode on pyroath patch?

[azure barn]

the damage drop-off from doing stuff inefficiently would just hurt to look at tbh

[buoyant hornet]

Well there's some but they're not having the main spotlight unfortunately

[frail hinge]

Screw that I've been watching Ishmael gameolaunfor so long and only just now discovered the door like attack animation she has

[woven haven]

orb rng, lack of superarmour uptime, generally super demanding orb wise

[woven haven]

yeah you skip it

[lean pulsar]

theres the emperor with 300 hp pools right now

[foggy ridge]

i have more problems with the superarmor lmao

[woven haven]

its not worth it at all

[buoyant hornet]

Orb shenanigans and sometimes lightning strike staggers her when using hold basic attack core

[lean pulsar]

last patch had km dig event

[frail hinge]

What happened to that stylish game mode? It was popular with hanying and I've never heard anything about it again

[foggy ridge]

it should be coming back in future patches i think

[frail hinge]

And stupidly long ult..

[woven haven]

also again back to this its a super dumb thing

Mixed WZ node in the future makes you do 2 wzs and the highest score between the two is the one recorded

if you don’t push your best teams higher they might actually just lose to a worse element on equal invest

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah same I thought it was permanent though but seems not?

[woven haven]

and that’s lower score on avg

[frail hinge]

OK yea that was kinda fun

[buoyant hornet]

Mind you long ult means more time for the cd of your memory buffs to tick

[onyx palm]

pls 😭

[buoyant hornet]

That's just good lol

[frail hinge]

Its been like 5 months 😭

[buoyant hornet]

Ooof

[onyx palm]

Maybe I can squeeze out 50k from Qu

[woven haven]

that’s the least of her problems

[somber axle]

What is Luna’s best team on release

[buoyant hornet]

Wait wait what does this mean

[woven haven]

the long ult qu has lets your deadline timing tick faster

[woven haven]

Kaleido SSS
Oblivion SSS
Epitaph SSS

[frail hinge]

Watanabe + strongest amp that's not alisa

[buoyant hornet]

This too

[woven haven]

its just kaleido

[azure barn]

nah just Kaleido

[buoyant hornet]

Long ult with timestop is just a good thing lol

[azure barn]

cuz of fast QTE

[woven haven]

strongest amp is a dumb metric if his strongest is capri the fk ing noodle

[frail hinge]

What's special about kaleido?

[woven haven]

best qte for eins application

[azure barn]

fastest QTE out of all Amps

[somber axle]

It was Ayla either way

[frail hinge]

Does speed of the qte matter alof?

[woven haven]

YES?

[azure barn]

of course

[woven haven]

Where have you been living

[frail hinge]

Wha-

[azure barn]

especially when DV buff is timestoppable now

[woven haven]

All that stylish game mode went to your head and you forget basic stuff?

[frail hinge]

I'm for one baffled that different question have varying speedsn

[woven haven]

The faster the qte strikes the enemy or heals your ally the faster you get the buff

[frail hinge]

Qtes* not questions

[buoyant hornet]

Well if I have r1 harmo empy isn't she just better than my ss0 sigless kaleido

[azure barn]

you can just do the QTEs frame 1 on Ult and you'll still have the buff throughout the entire cutscene

[woven haven]

if you time qtes too late the buffs don’t apply to majority of the dmg

[frail hinge]

I'm just a bit baffled that the qte speed differences are that much

[azure barn]

damn chill out

[woven haven]

you always want your buffs before dmg

[woven haven]

wanshi wz

hero and above do 4 wzs
only 3 count to your score

[frail hinge]

Wait do qtes not grant the buff the moment they are activated?!

[woven haven]

you get 2 fixed nodes
+1 mixed node with 2 zones
highest score of the 2 zones is the final score for the mixed node

[glass bay]

why does it feel like eu ppc becoming more whel

[nova forum]

[buoyant hornet]

So basically my lightning team will be irrelevant until nami 💀

[frail hinge]

I mean strongest amp would probably still apply if ones got a sig with a resonance right

[rare badge]

Since when is the 120s limit on CR only for the last stage?

[woven haven]

only when the dmg proc or heal proc activates

[nova forum]

Just wait next month bro
Lots of whel gonna quit

[woven haven]

yes pretty much lightning is never winning if its in mixed until nanami

[nova forum]

Mald gonna be reduced

[rare badge]

Wait, the time mission is there but the time limit doesn't show on CR screen

What happened

[buoyant hornet]

Assuming the change is applied after hanying yeah my cw will just be filler 😭

[woven haven]

watch your empyrea qte in slow motion and see how slow her 2nd heal tick is
and why hyperreal’s moving around with that slow ass delay on the heal tick prevents him from getting 4guin buff sometimes

[frail hinge]

Super conducting axial Ray would dwarf any advantage kaleido gives over tempest or feral right

[woven haven]

kaleido is also voucherable to sss

also wtf tempest are you mad?

[frail hinge]

Whale

[buoyant hornet]

Maybe not capri but maybe she'd be the best depending on your other amps ig

[woven haven]

then just reso kaleido wep

[frail hinge]

Vouchers take forever to use for us brokies

[rare badge]

btw aether if I get scire from luna selector is there a point to use vouchers to upgrade her to SSS? I only buy bp sometimes. Since we're accelerating

[frail hinge]

5*

[buoyant hornet]

They probably just confused capri with tempest

[woven haven]

then roll it since you are a whale like you self proclaimed

If you want to bring convoluted examples to shoehorn in a win just stop

I’ll slap you in the face irl and punt you into the nearest body of drownable water

[buoyant hornet]

??? 😭😭

[woven haven]

then you can go meet your dear lamia in the afterlife

[azure barn]

damn bro is not having a good day

[somber axle]

[buoyant hornet]

[azure barn]

time to give it a rest mate

[woven haven]

point is kaleido is best void amp choice

[frail hinge]

I can't die till lamia kisses me

[quartz dove]

Any news about the pack ?

[somber axle]

Thanks

[frail hinge]

When did I say that?!

[woven haven]

Lilith is better later if your ishmael isn’t sss

[frail hinge]

In my defense
The convoluted examples are legally my current situation

[buoyant hornet]

Nope

[frail hinge]

Also! I was told kaleido needed cub more than sig so I followed the elder's advice

[quartz dove]

Self proclaimed whel ?

[frail hinge]

Thought Ishmael took the tank role instead

[woven haven]

yes

doesn’t change what i said

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah lol I'll personally just have to use empyrea because she's my only r1 harmo amp

[frail hinge]

So you can use both no?

[woven haven]

No

[frail hinge]

HAH!

[woven haven]

not if ishmael is sss

[frail hinge]

For void wz?

[woven haven]

for void anything

[buoyant hornet]

Even though I have sss selena r1 and harmo too but selena buff is tied to sig mem which is bad for void

[woven haven]

if ishmael is sss you use kaleido
if ishmael is ss0 you use lilith

simple as that

[woven haven]

selena is automatically disqualified regardless of invest

[hollow tulip]

aether poo

[somber axle]

Oh crapi

[buoyant hornet]

Guess my poverty invest makes lilith even better

[frail hinge]

Yea fair

[quartz dove]

[woven haven]

no go away

[frail hinge]

Dare I ask the logistics behind this

[woven haven]

sss ishmael

[vale raft]

Ishmael: Parhelion

Skill - SSS

Churning Wheel of Fate

Level 1 - Unlocked at SS3

Upon casting Afterglow of Worlds for the first time upon entering the battlefield, gain 180 Gravitational Collapse Points and a Mark of Collapse. Base DMG of Signature - Extinction Sentence increases by 60%. While the Incorporeal Inhibition Domain is active, every Phantom Abysm generates an extra 3 Signature Energy. Enhances the special abilities triggered based on the Observation Chronicle.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SSS

Gravitational Collapse Points' damage amplification effect increases by 50%. During the 5th hit of Phantom Abysm, you can input one 3-Ping to deal an additional 1000% Nihil DMG and gain 180 Gravitational Collapse Points. Enhances the special abilities triggered based on the Observation Chronicle. Base DMG efficiency increase against Equilibrium Fields increases to 150%.

Tank State
Fire: Unlocked at SS3: Scorching Invasion and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%.
Unlocked at SSS: Scorching Invasion and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%. Switch cooldown of all members in the team is reduced by 3s; this effect does not stack with others of the same type.
Ice: Unlocked at SS3: Frost Corrosion and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%.
Unlocked at SSS: Frost Corrosion and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%. Switch cooldown of all members in the team is reduced by 3s; this effect does not stack with others of the same type.

Lightning:Unlocked at SS3: Turbulence Interference and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%.
Unlocked at SSS: Turbulence Interference and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%. Switch cooldown of all members in the team is reduced by 3s; this effect does not stack with others of the same type.
Dark: Unlocked at SSS: Chain Fusion and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%.

Amplfier State
Fire: Unlocked at SSS: Amplifier Class Skill effect increases by 100%.
Ice: Unlocked at SSS: Amplifier Class Skill effect increases by 100%.
Lightning: Unlocked at SSS: Amplifier Class Skill effect increases by 100%.
Dark: Unlocked at SSS: Amplifier Class Skill effect increases by 100%

[hollow tulip]

:( when will you notice me

[woven haven]

read the tank portion and spot the difference

[frail hinge]

I am NOT reading allat

[woven haven]

maybe you’ll figure it out in a year

[hollow tulip]

😭

[solid kraken]

im waiting to see someone post harmo of tempest by adding noan memories to selena for extra electric buff
madness indeed

[rare badge]

Can anyone check if their clash reflection UI is wrong too?

[buoyant hornet]

Ishmael's tank form adapts to the current released tank of its element

New gen tanks (wata, wanshi, nanami, etc) have much higher shred ceiling than scire

[woven haven]

then too bad i’m not explaining it
wait till someone else who does is willing to put up with you to explain it

[buoyant hornet]

So SSS Dark Ishmael doesn't get the extra shred on SSS that she gets on other elements

[frail hinge]

As wev3 probably quested by now

I'm slow

Explain it to me like I'm 6

[buoyant hornet]

Read my messages lol

[frail hinge]

So
That
Means...

[frail hinge]

And... hence....

[somber axle]

There’s no newgen dark tank so SS0 Ishmael isn’t that good as a dark tank

[frail hinge]

As a dark tank?

[buoyant hornet]

Lilith turns Ishmael into a dark tank which means Ishmael becomes equivalent to Daren's shred ceiling

[frail hinge]

Ohhhhhhhh

[woven haven]

sss*

[somber axle]

My bad

[woven haven]

same ss0 baseline but different sss baseline

dark ishmael has no 45 shred or -3s swap cd

[frail hinge]

So below sss youdan use lilith

But once hitting sss it's better to give up the dark amp buff and use Ishmael as a tank

[woven haven]

ishmael is tank regardless of rank

[buoyant hornet]

Ishmael copies the SSS shred buff that wata, wanshi, etc get so it's 45% base shred on everything except dark because Daren is outdated

[woven haven]

ss0 void is ish lilith luna
sss void is ish kaleido luna

[buoyant hornet]

When they release new dark tank, they'll update Ishmael's shred values

[frail hinge]

Wai
What are the conditions for Ishmael searching between tank and amp

Like does the attacker/leader have any effect

[foggy ridge]

some. especially someone like empy

[somber axle]

They finally put capri to rest I wonder when it’s daren’s turn

[woven haven]

core ishmael

[vale raft]

Ishmael: Parhelion

Skill - Core Passive (Lv. 18)

Sanctified Event Horizon - Observation Chronicle

Ishmael: Parhelion's ability is determined by the Observation Chronicle. The Observation Chronicle's abilities will be strengthened along with the subsequent release of other Constructs.

• If there is only one elemental Tank in the team, Ishmael: Parhelion will become an Amplifier of the corresponding element.
• If there is only one elemental Support/Amplifier in the team, Ishmael: Parhelion will become a Tank of the corresponding element.

1/5

[buoyant hornet]

No just have one tank or one amp in the team and she'll adapt

[woven haven]

please just read before i thwack you with a book

[frail hinge]

I low-key miss the brain dead era cause good god did kuro do a 180

[buoyant hornet]

Braindead era had us orb malding

[foggy ridge]

but aether glb doesnt read

[frail hinge]

So

1. The attacker hasn't anything to do wuth this
2. How do you go about making Ishmael a void tank (that deals void shred) then

[woven haven]

qte ishmael

[vale raft]

Ishmael: Parhelion

Skill - QTE (Lv. 18)

Prayer for Refuge

Kicks the Keystaff at the target, dealing Nihil DMG. Triggers a special ability based on the Observation Chronicle after casting.

• Deals 600.0% Nihil DMG.
• Applies different effects depending on the Observation Chronicle.

**Tank State**

Fire: Applies the Scorching Invasion effect that reduces Fire Resistance by 15% and Collapse Singularity effect that reduces Nihil Resistance by 15% to targets hit for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Ice: Applies the Frost Corrosion effect that reduces Ice Resistance by 15% and Collapse Singularity effect that reduces Nihil Resistance by 15% to targets hit for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Lightning: Applies the Turbulence Interference effect that reduces Lightning Resistance by 15% and Collapse Singularity effect that reduces Nihil Resistance by 15% to targets hit for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Dark: Applies the Chain Fusion effect that reduces Dark Resistance by 15% and Collapse Singularity effect that reduces Nihil Resistance by 15% to targets hit for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

**Amplifier State**

Fire: Heals allies for 100% of ATK, grant the Fire Tempered effect that increases Fire DMG by 10% and the Disintegration effect that increases Nihil DMG by 10% to allies for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Ice: Heals allies for 100% of ATK, grant the Frost Crystal effect that increases Ice DMG by 10% and the Disintegration effect that increases Nihil DMG by 10% to allies for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Lightning: Heals allies for 100% of ATK, grant the ** Lightning Surge** effect that increases Lightning DMG by 10% and the Disintegration effect that increases Nihil DMG by 10% to allies for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Dark: Heals allies for 100% of ATK, grant the Dark Radiation effect that increases Dark DMG by 10% and the Disintegration effect that increases Nihil DMG by 10% to allies for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

[frail hinge]

Core passive?! I thought this was a new class perk like annihilator was

[woven haven]

class ishmael

[vale raft]

Ishmael: Parhelion

Skill - Class Passive (Lv. 18)

Observer

Gain different abilities based on the Observation Chronicle:

• When Tank: Attacks reduce the target's Extra DMG Reduction by 20.0% for 5s.
• When Amplifier: All switched-in members gain an extra 10.0% ATK and 10.0% Elemental DMG Bonus of Ishmael: Parhelion's element for 10s.

[buoyant hornet]

There's no way to make her void she just does void dmg, only thing that converts is the elements of the buffs/shred

And the point is that Luna converts elemental buffs into void

[frail hinge]

Aaahh

[woven haven]

she has innate void qte and void shred

[frail hinge]

Understanding everything a but more

[woven haven]

but for her to benefit off anything else she needs luna

[buoyant hornet]

Interesting that's good to know

[frail hinge]

Would replacing scire with Ishmael help dark wz

[woven haven]

wdym good to know its written right above you

[woven haven]

no

[frail hinge]

Ah mo she doesn't deal dark dmg

[woven haven]

obviously not

[frail hinge]

Only dark shred

[frail hinge]

[buoyant hornet]

I was busy wondering if Ishmael's dark amp passive will be updated with Lilith's multipliers

[woven haven]

they already are

[barren plank]

Bro using Ishmael kit commands in gameplay help should be a banable offense

[woven haven]

when ish is dark amp her base is 20%20%

[buoyant hornet]

That's interesting lol

[frail hinge]

So
What's the point of the observer class- it's nit like they're not gonna make a void tank down the line right

[woven haven]

when fire/ice/light its 10/10

[frail hinge]

Or a tank/amp equivalent

[foggy ridge]

ur gonna give aether an aneurysm if you keep this up

[frail hinge]

What does the annihilation class do again

[buoyant hornet]

So if using Luna for ppc is it worth using dark tank to make ishmael dark amp

[frozen creek]

Nothing matters eos soon

[frail hinge]

Wai would the annihilation class take Ishmael off element amp/shred and then convert it?!

[woven haven]

dark amp ish

20/20 amp base
10% buff on heal
10% buff on heal with sig
10% buff on heal ss3
10% buff on heal sss
qte reset cd sss

fire amp ish
10/10 base amp
10% on heal
10% on heal sig
sss double amp

[frail hinge]

Look at Mr fun over here

[buoyant hornet]

Yes

[frail hinge]

Oh!

[woven haven]

it doesn’t stack

its still 15-45%

[frail hinge]

Stack?

[woven haven]

its not double dipping

[buoyant hornet]

Is Lilith's base heal buff 20%?

[woven haven]

yes

[woven haven]

qte ishmael

[vale raft]

Ishmael: Parhelion

Skill - QTE (Lv. 18)

Prayer for Refuge

Kicks the Keystaff at the target, dealing Nihil DMG. Triggers a special ability based on the Observation Chronicle after casting.

• Deals 600.0% Nihil DMG.
• Applies different effects depending on the Observation Chronicle.

**Tank State**

Fire: Applies the Scorching Invasion effect that reduces Fire Resistance by 15% and Collapse Singularity effect that reduces Nihil Resistance by 15% to targets hit for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Ice: Applies the Frost Corrosion effect that reduces Ice Resistance by 15% and Collapse Singularity effect that reduces Nihil Resistance by 15% to targets hit for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Lightning: Applies the Turbulence Interference effect that reduces Lightning Resistance by 15% and Collapse Singularity effect that reduces Nihil Resistance by 15% to targets hit for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Dark: Applies the Chain Fusion effect that reduces Dark Resistance by 15% and Collapse Singularity effect that reduces Nihil Resistance by 15% to targets hit for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

**Amplifier State**

Fire: Heals allies for 100% of ATK, grant the Fire Tempered effect that increases Fire DMG by 10% and the Disintegration effect that increases Nihil DMG by 10% to allies for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Ice: Heals allies for 100% of ATK, grant the Frost Crystal effect that increases Ice DMG by 10% and the Disintegration effect that increases Nihil DMG by 10% to allies for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Lightning: Heals allies for 100% of ATK, grant the ** Lightning Surge** effect that increases Lightning DMG by 10% and the Disintegration effect that increases Nihil DMG by 10% to allies for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Dark: Heals allies for 100% of ATK, grant the Dark Radiation effect that increases Dark DMG by 10% and the Disintegration effect that increases Nihil DMG by 10% to allies for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

[woven haven]

again read the thing

[frail hinge]

So
Placing kaleido turns Ishmael to a tank thay deals ice shred but deals void damage

Then luna's class converts said ice shred into void shred

An I semi accurate

[frail hinge]

Glb players don't read cmon

[buoyant hornet]

Lilith taking buff values to another level lmao

Just 60% + 20% at sss

[woven haven]

ishmael already hasssss the void shred innately its right above you

[frozen creek]

What was the need to add all this

[frail hinge]

Yea hut now we have double void shred

[woven haven]

there’s a level of slowness here that would make elementary school teachers question their career

[frail hinge]

That's exactly what I'm thinking

[frozen creek]

[woven haven]

it won’t stack

its not double its just single

[frail hinge]

So double void shred?
Void shred²?

[frozen creek]

I wouldn't have minded if they didn't make each patch 14 days

[woven haven]

what part of it doesn’t stack did you not hear

[buoyant hornet]

???

[frail hinge]

Doesn't

[buoyant hornet]

Where are you getting this exactly 😭

[quartz dove]

[woven haven]

snail here thinks ish 15% ice + 15% void converted by luna = 30% all element

[frail hinge]

It's so.complicated when the end result is just a team that has less on element units than most 😭

[woven haven]

give it a decade maybe he’ll catch up

[prime sigil]

what sbetter to use for leap wafer exhcange?

[buoyant hornet]

Life would've been more fun if that was how it works lmao but nope

[frail hinge]

My line of logic may be an asymptote but is still there

[woven haven]

save for future units being added there

[buoyant hornet]

Wdym

[frail hinge]

When empyrea leap btw

[woven haven]

save

[prime sigil]

save what

[woven haven]

yeah unfortunately game code disagrees

[prime sigil]

im getting vera leap rn

[woven haven]

there’s more leaps coming

[prime sigil]

im 300 chips short

[woven haven]

balter cw scire and empyrea

[prime sigil]

oh

[frail hinge]

Aether lets be friends ´ ▽ ` )ﾉ

[buoyant hornet]

Just get wafers through Derived From Matrix and Cursed Waves

[woven haven]

garnet leap is relatively low priority

[buoyant hornet]

I have 9k wafers off of those alone lol

[frail hinge]

I've got questions about wanshi's kit!

[prime sigil]

wuthering cursed waves ok

[woven haven]

if you don’t have sss garn or have ss + sig swap comp

you do not benefit from her leap

at all

[frail hinge]

Aether ignores a soul in need

[woven haven]

no offense

[frail hinge]

How does the gun work

:3

First off is he even fun to play

[buoyant hornet]

He pulls the trigger and shoots

[pine slate]

This is aether finally realizing the solo potential

I call this character development

[woven haven]

no fk off

[foggy ridge]

no it doesnt stack

[pine slate]

[frail hinge]

It's not just button mashing is it

[prime sigil]

is there a speed run method of cursed waves? dont have good memories of it

[woven haven]

Its just pointless to leap someone as useless as garn if you don’t have ss + sig to make it worthwhile

[buoyant hornet]

Idk lol

[frail hinge]

Ik someone who does

[woven haven]

you two are like blind monkey see monkey do

[frail hinge]

@woven haven help!

[prime sigil]

i got ss garent

[buoyant hornet]

Play the middle difficulty, pick traveling troupe and run crimson weave

[frail hinge]

core lucid

[vale raft]

Wanshi: Lucid Dreamer

Skill - Core Passive (Lv. 18)

Tranquility - Silence in the Snow
Trigger: Hold Red Orb or Hold Dodge

Enters the charging state, continuously accumulating Calibration Points. During this, gains Super Armor and 90% DMG Reduction.

• When the current value of Calibration Points is less than 80, gains 20 Calibration Points every second; when the current value of Calibration Points is 80 or more but less than 160, gains 40 Calibration Points every second; when the current value of Calibration Points is 160 or more, gains 80 Calibration Points every second.
• Maximum number of Calibration Points: 200
• Releasing the button early during charging will automatically trigger dodge; Calibration Points will accumulate as normal during the dodge. Additionally, gains a Signal Orb if Wanshi successfully dodges an attack.

1/6

[woven haven]

i’ve found my motivation to leave this world early

thank you

[frail hinge]

Aether it doesn't work help!

[buoyant hornet]

Cw has a funny glitch where her slam hitbox lingers and kills incoming waves

[carmine reef]

Safe travels

[foggy ridge]

is that not a feature?

[buoyant hornet]

Slam always had some lingering strong hitboxes but in cursed waves the hitboxes linger for a much longer time

[frail hinge]

Aether translate please

[pine slate]

Thats a thing im pretty sure

[pine slate]

Prolly just buffed up with all the buffs u get

[frail hinge]

That wasn't a feature to avoid damage loss?!

[woven haven]

you know i never really used the block feature much till i joined this server

its very useful now

[frail hinge]

Aether you wouldn't

[buoyant hornet]

Idk I'd literally be standing there after slam and watch one or 2 waves die lmao

[frail hinge]

We have such good chemistry aether

[prime sigil]

shouldi be going for hard stages

[woven haven]

its the hitlag pretty sure

[buoyant hornet]

The chemistry of TNT

[woven haven]

+lingering dmg from the roguelike buffs

[frail hinge]

I ask questions and you answer them

We're peas in a pod you n me

[frail hinge]

See aether

Now explain wanshi's kit!

core lucid 2

[vale raft]

Wanshi: Lucid Dreamer

Skill - Core Passive (Lv. 2)

Tranquility - Cryonic Explosion
Trigger: Calibration Meter full + Release Red Orb or Release Dodge

Depending on whether Red Orb or Dodge was held to begin charging, enter different Calibration Modes. This move pulls in and debuffs enemies, deals DMG, grants 3 Signature Energy and an Ancillary Revolver, and triggers Matrix if available. Gains a shield when performing Gale Strike or Bullet Hail in Calibration Mode.

• Hold and release Red Orb to enter Calibration Mode: Quiescence, dealing 264.71% Ice DMG.
• Hold and release Dodge to enter Calibration Mode: Desolation, dealing 148.24% Hiemal DMG.
• Inflicts enemies with the Frost Corrosion effect that reduces Ice Resistance by 25% for 8s when entering Calibration Mode.
• While in Calibration Mode, Wanshi consumes 30 Calibration Points every second, and he will exit Calibration Mode when he fully depletes Calibration Points. Performing a 3-Ping in Calibration Mode grants 40 Calibration Points.

• While in Calibration Mode, each cast of Gale Strike or Bullet Hail grants a shield equal to 5% of Wanshi's maximum HP. This shield can stack up to 6 times.
• If the Cylinder is empty when entering Calibration Mode, Wanshi will immediately gain 1 Condensation Round

2/6

[pine slate]

Tf r u gonna do with that info anyways

[frail hinge]

Aether help the words make no sense (;_;)

[woven haven]

qte ishmael

[vale raft]

Ishmael: Parhelion

Skill - QTE (Lv. 18)

Prayer for Refuge

Kicks the Keystaff at the target, dealing Nihil DMG. Triggers a special ability based on the Observation Chronicle after casting.

• Deals 600.0% Nihil DMG.
• Applies different effects depending on the Observation Chronicle.

**Tank State**

Fire: Applies the Scorching Invasion effect that reduces Fire Resistance by 15% and Collapse Singularity effect that reduces Nihil Resistance by 15% to targets hit for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Ice: Applies the Frost Corrosion effect that reduces Ice Resistance by 15% and Collapse Singularity effect that reduces Nihil Resistance by 15% to targets hit for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Lightning: Applies the Turbulence Interference effect that reduces Lightning Resistance by 15% and Collapse Singularity effect that reduces Nihil Resistance by 15% to targets hit for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Dark: Applies the Chain Fusion effect that reduces Dark Resistance by 15% and Collapse Singularity effect that reduces Nihil Resistance by 15% to targets hit for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

**Amplifier State**

Fire: Heals allies for 100% of ATK, grant the Fire Tempered effect that increases Fire DMG by 10% and the Disintegration effect that increases Nihil DMG by 10% to allies for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Ice: Heals allies for 100% of ATK, grant the Frost Crystal effect that increases Ice DMG by 10% and the Disintegration effect that increases Nihil DMG by 10% to allies for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Lightning: Heals allies for 100% of ATK, grant the ** Lightning Surge** effect that increases Lightning DMG by 10% and the Disintegration effect that increases Nihil DMG by 10% to allies for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

Dark: Heals allies for 100% of ATK, grant the Dark Radiation effect that increases Dark DMG by 10% and the Disintegration effect that increases Nihil DMG by 10% to allies for 8s. The duration resets each time it is triggered.

[buoyant hornet]

Just get your crimson insight thing and go for the brand of void + brand of infinity run, then choose the "I haven't seen the truth of this world" choice on the last time talking to cradle

[frail hinge]

With sync plan wanshis update is like in 4 weeks its fine

[pine slate]

Getting to know his kit early wont make u any better at using him

[carmine reef]

With sync plan lilith drops in like 2 days

[pine slate]

[foggy ridge]

make that 3 months ish

[carmine reef]

[frail hinge]

Bold of you to assume I'm doing this to become better at the game

[pine slate]

With sync plan, im quitting in like a week

[buoyant hornet]

With sync plan new kamui frame drops tomorrow

(copium)

[vague nebula]

[frail hinge]

With sync plan I've already pulled luna

[glass bay]

rly?

[carmine reef]

With sync plan my dad will finally come back from the store

[buoyant hornet]

Dayum

[foggy ridge]

with sync plan maybe trudeau can give me some money to live

[frail hinge]

With sync plan Sophia: Luciphath is debuting yesterday

[quartz dove]

[frail hinge]

Aether is gone (;_;)

[prime sigil]

u scared him away

[stray siren]

I haven't read the attacker kits since Alpha

[buoyant hornet]

You're now toxic exes I think

[stray siren]

Maybe that's why I don't know how to use her

[frail hinge]

I have aether read them to me

[pine slate]

For me, since hyper

[frail hinge]

The day I discovered Lees orbs counted as dodges was the day i lost my v-card

I thought "why did no one tell me this" but like they did but aether wasn't there to translate (;_;)

[carmine reef]

Cooming by yourself is not losing your v card

[pine slate]

Im happy for u, or sad that it happened

[sinful shadow]

[frail hinge]

I was wit h lee

Without aether there is no motivation to continue

Goodbye all

[buoyant hornet]

Huh

Dodges huh

Interesting lmao

[frail hinge]

Yea if you time it right his dodge can proc matrix

[pine slate]

No sht

Every dodge procs matrix except balt

[buoyant hornet]

Whaaaaa

[frail hinge]

Yea that's how i discovered his orbs were dodges

Too bad the only competitive esy to use Lee is the one form where he has auto dodge

Kuro you make such cool m3chanics and never have them see the light of day

[woven haven]

https://imgur.com/a/eQ6cMVk

[frail hinge]

We need a single unit mode where you take on actually hard challenges again!

[glass bay]

[frail hinge]

AETHER MY BELOVED

[frail hinge]

Whys your bloom off

[onyx palm]

do we ever get the ability to start all dorm commissions at once?

[shadow holly]

that's too goated for kuro

[frail hinge]

Oh does lilith outclass lamia btw

[onyx palm]

damn...

[carmine reef]

We do though i think?

[quartz dove]

Ananta and endfiled soon anyway

[shadow holly]

lamia eins holder

[glass bay]

isnt that daren

[quartz dove]

~~Karen dv ~~

[woven haven]

DV holder = fact of life
eins holder = derogatory racism

[shadow holly]

DV bath

[glass bay]

[stoic rapids]

how big is the diff between cottie and bathlon for ppc lamia?

[shadow holly]

big
what rank is your lamia tho

[stoic rapids]

ss3

[shadow holly]

ah yeah you're fine with bath then

mine SS0 poverty doesn't work with Bathlon

[stoic rapids]

so she's eligible. but i totally forgot to make her a bath harmo and i dont have the spinny thingies nor the stamina and well...im out of time. so ig this week shes doin cottie

[glass bay]

i thought ur whel

[shadow holly]

yea you can still do Cottie
rn the new SS3 time for Lilith hell is 14s compared to the previous 16s
so shouldn't kill your rankings that much lmao

[glass bay]

survive again

[river nymph]

[shadow holly]

[normal sierra]

he is, giga whel

[glass bay]

why ppc becoming even harder to place

whel gating?

[quartz dove]

[stoic rapids]

16s total...yeah im fumbling this very very hard. but im too lazy to care rn. but she cant kill in rotas for me. so im doin her rota as if she was ss cause thats what i remember from ss days for hell specifically i mean

[carmine reef]

I got 3% last week, and this week I've already been booted out of 5% before the day is even close to over

[normal sierra]

this week ppc score difference between f2p no rights and people with rights is bigger indeed

[stoic rapids]

i think the ss3 rota is the one with the extra basics on 2nd rota with only 1x3ping

[shadow holly]

SS0 can do 16s now too so you should def be able to do it unless lacking invest

https://youtu.be/eS1iihFLLBw?si=9yJy9avSJ2YGfO1T

[stoic rapids]

im not lacking invest. im lacking skill

[glass bay]

no rights, only wrongs

[normal sierra]

self-aware skill issue

[glass bay]

is it coz of wep reso?

[normal sierra]

not just resos, harmo and char ranks as well

[shadow holly]

because the whale diff is more apparent on tankier bosses

[stoic rapids]

this one is doing the dive cancel into ult right?

[glass bay]

[normal sierra]

the squishier the boss, the less difference is in score between f2p and f2p

[glass bay]

f2p+?

[shadow holly]

yeah but ig you could opt for some simpler rot if you don't wanna mald dive cancel

[normal sierra]

ya

[sand laurel]

is Lilith released in cn?

[shadow holly]

https://youtu.be/qF_k2TJT0-k?si=NguEy4aB7IwacMWt
can do this too

[stoic rapids]

yeah i did simpler rot and thats how i ended up at 23s. cause i cant kill in 2 rots without divecancel. and thats so damn maldy

[shadow holly]

here is without dive cancel and no complicated techs at all

[normal sierra]

can't kill in 2 rots? wutdaheck, are your Bonkerina and Carpi that pleb invest or wut?

[ashen edge]

[unborn star]

Holy shiet 19s hell lilith

[shadow holly]

[sand laurel]

^

[ashen edge]

leap scire gonna make it become 12

[normal sierra]

fudge that rota, it was actually harder to do than the 16s now, at least with my pleb r1 fish

[stoic rapids]

this is cottie right?

[carmine reef]

Imagine capri

[shadow holly]

expansion drills so cringe
I almost did ED7 in 9 turns but these bears are annoying
there is one single small hole you can put them in

[glass bay]

fk whel

[sand laurel]

is Lilith released in cn?

[ashen edge]

not yet but beta is over

[shadow holly]

yes all my runs are with Cottie because I'm SS0 lol
the 19s run is also before the memory rework and without scire harmo

[ashen edge]

this is where vepley shine lmao

[shadow holly]

ye I used vepley

[ashen edge]

im luring them to the hole then vepley push them down

[shadow holly]

threw two of them but it's so annoying to line them up properly

[stoic rapids]

no. everybody is good invest. im just skill issued. i cant do the dive tech and for the other version it takes too damn long to mald for double 3ping for 2nd rota so i just let it go and did it some fumbled ass way. issokay. i end up with 60 skulls either way

[glass bay]

The diff with invested crapi is so big

[ashen edge]

then drill 8 is literally survival check LMAO

[normal sierra]

look at em rickrolling the topic to some offtopic goon game

[ashen edge]

taunt chainsaw dog

[sleek basin]

i was 6th with that score

[shadow holly]

💀

[stoic rapids]

mhm. thankies. i was familiar with this rota already. i wll need a ss3 bathlon rota for next time tho. do we have any of those around?

[ashen edge]

turn out drill 10 is the easiest

did u watch drill 10 i sent in the sv

[shadow holly]

whatever I'll prob finish 7 before reset but I won't bother with the others

I'd rather try to complete pva 4-5 at least

[shadow holly]

about the latter, just ask fel he prob has some refs on hand
or mr123 so that he steals vids from cat

[normal sierra]

I hate dive cancel too with a passion, can relate

[stoic rapids]

we have too many damn fels

be a dear and ping me the correct one pls >..<

[shadow holly]

[ashen edge]

i have gfl2 ref what do u want

[shadow holly]

nuh uh

[normal sierra]

no gooning

[shadow holly]

this fel is the right one ariel

[ashen edge]

i dont have any ppc refs

all gone

[shadow holly]

sure buddy

[normal sierra]

Fel gatekeeping refs now

[shadow holly]

megu budget dalao gamer refs are public anyway

[ashen edge]

buddy is going to get some v6 wdym budget

[normal sierra]

a big budget is still a budget

[ashen edge]

there u go

[shadow holly]

fr? i thought he's low spender in gfl

[paper bone]

siren is 9/9/9 right

[stoic rapids]

heey. do u have a ss3 bath lamia hell rota. lilith i assume is the only one that needs adjustment. cuz voodoo probably still paper.

[normal sierra]

with what invest? ||but yes ||

[paper bone]

222322 101 200

[ashen edge]

he doing some big pack as well

[warm cove]

How many weeks we got till luna patch

[normal sierra]

what's the 200?

[ashen edge]

actually not all big packs in gfl but alr dip 200 i think?

he got 2 std AR sig

[paper bone]

Ss cub shouldve put 55 not 00

Lingya + some random shi with maxed atk skills

[river nymph]

shes on 1/10

[normal sierra]

dem, even pets got a mothership code now

[ashen edge]

i do have gimme a sec

[river nymph]

oh boy its henry joe the rainbow guy

[paper bone]

UwU

[river nymph]

OwO

[paper bone]

AwA

[shadow holly]

me when Henry Joe in chat

[normal sierra]

can't you ult kill chaos with that invest thou? or still not enuff dmg for it?

[river nymph]

[warm cove]

In a week how many bcs we get with weekly’s and dailies

[paper bone]

I’m just asking time

Cuz I frel like I can hit 8

[normal sierra]

oy! no gooning, especially on me!

[river nymph]

[normal sierra]

isn't 8 some dsh*t time?

[shadow holly]

pure weeklies and dailies is 1210bc a week

[paper bone]

Its dshit? Oh

[normal sierra]

pretty sure it is

[ashen edge]

https://youtu.be/IHUfn9X_qRs?si=LjdanpU71MxNoUIB @stoic rapids but i think trs alr elaborate this one for you so it is up to you

[shadow holly]

8 isn't possible on siren with CW unless it's red orb kill

[paper bone]

5 pulls give or take

[shadow holly]

or ult1 kill

[normal sierra]

ohh, then not even dsht gets 8s

[paper bone]

Waduhel

[ashen edge]

no burger

[paper bone]

Lightning is cooked

[shadow holly]

ye siren start is 5.4
it's literally impossible to dshit for 8, not even mentioning u need gapclose first

[normal sierra]

always has been

[quartz dove]

Red orb kill

[ashen edge]

gapclose took you a few frame already ye

still no kfc

[shadow holly]

.4 is alr impossible without gapclose

[warm cove]

Good thing I didn’t pull for qu weapon , il be around perfecly 15k or a bit more when luna patch comes up

[paper bone]

Ok I can 9/9/9 and then use fhe rest of my fish ap

YIPPEEE

[normal sierra]

ohh I didn't do gb yet and no ping from Seeya
guess it's time to skip it this week

[warm cove]

I have 800 skulls , should I SS lamia qu or luna oblivion

Who is most priority (I have lamia at s5)

[normal sierra]

but where you do siren now? or do we have siren next week?

[shadow holly]

id say qu

with Luna, even if she lacks some QoL from SS you can cope because you swap
while qu really needs to solo or the teams performance drops significantly because glory/cow don't do anything

[paper bone]

I was asking for reference

I have no idea hoe to do tifa

[quartz dove]

Hoe

[paper bone]

I think knight tifa I have to slam

[stoic rapids]

ah this is just basic ss3 rota. so nothing changes with bathlon ig?

[ashen edge]

with bathlon on lamia i assume?

[stoic rapids]

yeah

[paper bone]

wait is tifa knighth slam or ult kill

[ashen edge]

ye cuz no scire leap atm so bathlon lamia wont do anything on hell

[stoic rapids]

so just keep her on cottie or....?

[cold walrus]

Do amplifiers' reso buff themselves? Especially glorious spear, can't understand if this buff works after self healing

[ashen edge]

ye just keep her on cottie, if you want 1 sec improvement on chaos then get bathlon otherwise doesn't matter

[shadow holly]

yes

[paper bone]

trs

Can I actually ult kill knight tifa

7red + ult2

this feels bad

[normal sierra]

try it
I can't ult kill with my invest

[paper bone]

I’m not harmo’ing garnet too fxk that

2 is enough surely

[normal sierra]

you can also try bike swing > ult for 10s, maybe that kills

I think that's more dmg, but I never tried it, so not sure

[glass bay]

So many fk whel

[normal sierra]

or with deer pet, it's much easier to trigger it on garn cuz leap
das is 10s ult kill that way too

[paper bone]

yeah no 7ref does not kill

[paper bone]

I have never seen this bfor

[normal sierra]

it's usually ss3 strat cuz more bike dmg on ss3

you just swing with bike but don't do slam
it gives energy for ult2 without the slam

[river nymph]

[hidden peak]

Why does my dodge gauge not restore during Qu Clash fight even after 10 seconds the character has entered the field?

[normal sierra]

you lose dodge gauge if you stay on the same char, not recover

[quartz dove]

[river nymph]

[normal sierra]

so if you stay on the same char, your dodge gauge will always flash red there

[hidden peak]

But why? Neural degeneration doesnt say anything about staying for more than 10 second

Reading is hard

[normal sierra]

wutcha you mean? it clearly states that you lose 200 dodge gauge every second

[shadow holly]

it says precisely that your dodge gauge starts degenerating after 10s of being on one char

[cold walrus]

Dude

[glass bay]

[hidden peak]

Reading comprehension, got it, thank you

[glass bay]

Why aren't we eos yet

[shadow holly]

"after entering" bit is weird but that's just translation issues

Kuro small indie company

[hidden peak]

I though it was more like
For 10 second after entering the battle the character loses 200 dodge gauge every second.
Reading comprehension..
Thank you all

[river nymph]

[cold walrus]

Small indie company creates the game for $150 millions

[shadow holly]

not even 150 billion so yes obviously

[warm cove]

Alright thanks , after SS qu shukra who should be my next priority on skulls

Also I play really bad with qu shukra idk why she only one I mess up , does SS help with that a bit ?

[shadow holly]

if you have 800 rn then you should be able to SS Luna on release or very soon after

[lean pulsar]

Does she swap on release?

[shadow holly]

yes

[paper bone]

How do I do chaos and hell tifa with lamia

[warm cove]

But then i won’t be able to SS Lucia phyroath or lamia , luna would still be better to SS?

[shadow holly]

she's somewhat unplayable without SS and sig so yeah it's understandable she feels bad to play for u rn

[shadow holly]

wdym
you'll be able to SS everyone
well
except Lamia probably
you'll SS all new units at least

[lean pulsar]

SS is what makes the hold dodge a thing.

[warm cove]

Depends if I can perform well in ppc

[lean pulsar]

Otherwise it has no point

[warm cove]

Everyone has crazy team rn im in 40% bracket with no crazy supports just main dps focus

[lean pulsar]

Yeah 40% is enough

[shadow holly]

40% means not other people's teams are good means yours are bad or you're doing smth wrong

but anyway after Luna the rewards will not be ranking dependant

[shadow holly]

it really isn't
I'd say at least the 48 skulls per week bracket is fine to SS all new units comfortably

[lean pulsar]

6 week per patch now

6 week equivalent anyways

[shadow holly]

eh considering that ig yeah

[lean pulsar]

42 is enough

40% gets 44

[glass bay]

Are we coping?

[warm cove]

How I play as perfect as I can with my unite 😭 also Wdym by change and not ranking depended , how will it work if I can ask

[glass bay]

Are u rdy to mald for hours?

[lean pulsar]

Bro with 1 S rank

[warm cove]

https://tenor.com/view/sky-dive-sky-diving-bomb-attack-gif-6131187

[lean pulsar]

I don't think mald matters

Those PPC runs are longer than wz probably

I know mine are

[shadow holly]

you are most definitely not playing perfect
I understand you want to feel good but do not delude yourself, there are far more things to do well and optimize than you can imagine

the rewards will just depend on the total score thresholds you reach
like max rewards are at 1.8mil total score

[warm cove]

I reach like 1.3/1.5m max I believe

[shadow holly]

it will get better once you get decent units

[glass bay]

Pgr is mald reset simulator

[warm cove]

I mean I didnt build too much support units it’s already draining with main dps

[glass bay]

Wth u mean mald doesn't matter

[lean pulsar]

Yeah like do you have Lilith ref for this team 🤡

[warm cove]

I mean you can just give some bc and I buy qu sig and be good and we all happy no?

[glass bay]

Ur bricked it's diff

Ur both bricked *

[lean pulsar]

As I said I don't think mald matters a lot there

it's Too far down

[warm cove]

These 2 units the one making me start the game and only ones I put effort , after that I got too lazy

[lean pulsar]

Bro actually your account is stacked wtf

[warm cove]

Nah only those 2 😂

[glass bay]

Bro actually has all element dps and is complaining

[lean pulsar]

Crazy

[glass bay]

[lean pulsar]

He has all element teams

[glass bay]

Not team just dps

Team probably bricked

[lean pulsar]

nah A rank qte slaves

[woven haven]

base S wata ew

[warm cove]

Only got liv angel for wata and 21 for Lucia as supports rest is Mmhh

[paper bone]

Its okay he wants to prio lamia

[warm cove]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-stop-stop-right-there-stop-it-talk-to-the-hand-gif-12345343

Who said I will

[glass bay]

How do u even become competitive if u start now

[lean pulsar]

I'm doing that solo wata team on all 3 bosses last level

[paper bone]

30% bracket menace

[glass bay]

[lean pulsar]

in 6 months you can get all the units that aren't replaced by then

[glass bay]

Extreme optimism

[warm cove]

Most of them will get powercreep anyway

[lean pulsar]

Roadmap is there

[warm cove]

Even tho balter and Lucia still iconicccc

[lean pulsar]

Balter won't be replaced in 6 months anyways

[glass bay]

In 6 months cn might get new phys attacker

[lean pulsar]

I really wanted to see hyperlee being more relevant than cw for a few patches at least

[glass bay]

We will be close to sync by then too

[lean pulsar]

Very likely

[river nymph]

surely

[cedar ridge]

can anyone tell me what all the black card awarding events are in the current update? im lagging behind because i didnt know i was supposed to be doing more and now i might miss out on Qu

[lean pulsar]

On global

[glass bay]

[river nymph]

with speed up tho still might

[glass bay]

Bro hasn't heard about speed up eos plan

[river nymph]

if selena is phys attacker next

[lean pulsar]

6 months is just shy of ishmael from now

Or during idk

[warm cove]

Hope for even more cuz I put effort to build her and don’t wanna farm again

[foggy ridge]

either phys amp or phys atk it can go either way

[lean pulsar]

unless they do 3x3x3x please don't tho

[lean pulsar]

Dude last amp was phys...

[river nymph]

hypothetical scenario

[lean pulsar]

in global

[foggy ridge]

may 16th gonna be a field day if thats the case

[lean pulsar]

Fire amp is from 2 years ago

Next amp is surely fire

:clueless:

[glass bay]

Fire already too strong

[lean pulsar]

Yeah so no fire unit for a year ig

[river nymph]

nah we need a new fire tank

[glass bay]

[river nymph]

[glass bay]

Xeno is male hater?

[river nymph]

yearly fire tank release time

[woven haven]

fire is alr mid

[lean pulsar]

Yeah imagine playing :men:

[woven haven]

Ion is scoring better

[glass bay]

Fire mid with pyroath?

[woven haven]

fire pyroath is mid compared to ion pyroath

[glass bay]

But isn't phys bricked in comparison

[woven haven]

yes phys is worst now

behind trueslash even

[lean pulsar]

Take your pick

Bricked phys or a lightning attacker that doesn't even join the lightning team

[foggy ridge]

im pretty sure ion /= lightning :v

[lean pulsar]

No it's not

ion just gets buffed by lightning

I'm talking about this meme

Ofc it's a meme but you know

I always enjoy cw bullying

[river nymph]

lux op

[cedar ridge]

?

[lean pulsar]

Whatever you see on the event screen. Don't expect too many pulls from events. There's like a total of 10 and that's because Kowloon merchant event is really loaded

[onyx palm]

doesn't merchant only give like 4 or 5 pulls?

[woven haven]

i would not really put ice a whole tier above

[quartz dove]

I told people hanying is weak and now phys is rock bottom

What a surpise nobody see that coming

[woven haven]

alisa is the weak one

and your dear sss3 balter

[glass bay]

ponzus milkers

build ponzus milkers

[vale raft]

Hanying: Solacetune <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:tank:1290614106520555571><:physical_element:1290613978057146379><:trueslash:1288090116790812712>

Main Tank Set

Usage

Main Tank/Sub-DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General Tank set
This unit has not been released on Global yet. Please take these builds with a grain of salt as they are subject to change.

Memories

4x Changwuzi
2x Patton

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Core Passive

[quartz dove]

[ornate oasis]

Is wave 17 good or meh for SS0 qu w sig at leader wz

[quartz dove]

Does it promote u to hero ?

[ornate oasis]

Im at 4th place rn tho so oof

[quartz dove]

[lean pulsar]

That's one of the biggest non anniversary events

And yes just 6 pulls

That's quite a bit

[river nymph]

[lean pulsar]

For an event

it gives more that simulacrum submersion event which took hours

[carmine reef]

if your qte bots are bum ass poverty invest then it's probably good

like 5* changyu and wanshi

[cunning tree]

Do bosses in CR/etc have the same elemental weaknesses as they do in PPC?

[glass bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/991454621652488372/1313458868889714688/IzaSaveUs.gif

[glass bay]

No

[cunning tree]

So CR is 1000% element neutral?

[glass bay]

Yea

[cunning tree]

ty

[glass bay]

[floral solar]

kinda late but a question
is it even worth getting balter to SSS0 then? with lucia patch copy ill be ss3 and road to SSS with vouchers quite the grind since I don't buy both bps

[woven haven]

good dmg increase in phys
major dmg increase in trueslash

but if you’re tight on vouchers uhhhhhh

gl budgeting ig

[floral solar]

[visual topaz]

[glass bay]

Ew

[crimson hill]

https://i.imgur.com/Mnz6qGa.jpeg When it comes to story stage like this. is it best to do 12 to 13, or 12, 15, 25, then 13? xD

[visual topaz]

yeah

follow by number

[wispy robin]

you could pick batler in luna selector to make it fast if u don't need anyone else
otherwise don't bother

[short rock]

yes, follow the number

[visual topaz]

they just indicates it sets up at same moment story-wise

[visual topaz]

[crimson hill]

I understand that it's happening at the same time, so I was curious to do them by chronological order(skipping numbers)

Or just simply follow the number and come back for the past

[visual topaz]

follow by number

you'll get lost if pov shifts

[crimson hill]

Don't think I would but, I'll follow the number for simplicity I guess

[quartz dove]

Nah i'd skip

[woven haven]

follow by left to right obv

[crimson hill]

Aether is going by timeline and not number? xD

[visual topaz]

his brain too big

can process 3 timelines at the same time without getting lost

[crimson hill]

I usually just do either or, whichever I feel like at the time

Sometimes I follow number, sometimes I do left to right

[floral solar]

I need daren

[visual topaz]

is cursed wave last ending last fight scripted

[quartz dove]

Cursed wave talk in end of 2024

[wispy robin]

wait i only now realized there were some new memos in here?
tf is this noctis memo for??

[barren plank]

Event memo, just meant for collection

[visual topaz]

[wispy robin]

i never knew they added more 5star memos..

[visual topaz]

i got oneshotted

[woven haven]

they add like one every 2 patches

and you keep them for collection or lose them forever

[wispy robin]

there def weren't any up till this patch

it regens hp by doing 3pings i guess it's bis for solo clears

[gray cosmos]

there definitely has been

many many of them

[carmine reef]

They're in the collectibles tab in event shops

[spiral merlin]

[carmine reef]

If you never look past the sig mems then you never noticed

[woven haven]

^

in other words your blindness has lost u many 5* limited mems

[delicate isle]

Like lantern

[carmine reef]

i dont get them either but at least i know they're there

[woven haven]

look i’d call that reasonable

you saw them and made your choice

this guy’s been living under a rock

[carmine reef]

[barren plank]

Wave 53 wtf

[carmine reef]

I would've liked the idea of collecting them if i were a day 1 player

But since I'm already missing some no matter what, the collection doesn't appeal to me

[woven haven]

yeah i mean

[carmine reef]

I'll only get them if they do a useful one

[woven haven]

they are just purely cosmetic

you’ll never use them

[woven haven]

there was a irl purchase collab one that healed you on qte
could be useful

[carmine reef]

Is that kfc

[woven haven]

no

[carmine reef]

Or is kfc different

[woven haven]

sunflower seeds or smth

[carmine reef]

[cunning tree]

TIL "clear in 120s" != "clear at 120s"

[woven haven]

funnily enough kfc has like two different versions of the energy one

[wispy robin]

yea just googled them and it doesn't look like there were any new 5 star memos since i started playing

[cunning tree]

actually, PGR doesn't know wtf to do either, because stage 14 is still locked out

[carmine reef]

Bro

[delicate isle]

Run it back

[carmine reef]

You wont see them in perm shop

They're limited collectibles

They're added all the time

[wispy robin]

https://wiki.kurobbs.com/pns/catalogue/list?fid=1024&sid=1032 are those all

[barren plank]

Lmao the first mem is called Barcelona according to Google

But yea they are limited collectibles that don't rerun

[woven haven]

they’re not in release order past lucia’s

[woven haven]

Barcelo iirc

for the EN name they chose?

[barren plank]

[woven haven]

not sure gotta double check

[barren plank]

Does DFM get updated again I forgor

[woven haven]

luna ed 3&4
hanying ed 5&6

5 & 6 are mutually exclusive though

and 5 is sort of a bad end

bittersweet kind

nah

just bittersweet ending

[wispy robin]

have any of them been released from wata till hanying patch?

[woven haven]

definitely

[barren plank]

Last patch we had some

[woven haven]

i was most active then and i definitely saw quite a few

they give them out like every s rank patch or smth

[dapper skiff]

Throw it back

[fallow fiber]

who do i choose from this?

[rose yew]

entropy

[cunning tree]

Most people would recommend Pulse. The answer is definitely not Entropy

[fallow fiber]

does team positioning matter?

[cunning tree]

follow this https://grayravens.com/wiki/Team_Compositions/Global_Teams

[cunning tree]

Color slots often do matter. But if you have to ask, you're probably at a point where they do not matter

[fallow fiber]

thanks

[livid lark]

funny when it isn't misinfo this time

[rose yew]

how the turn has tabled on me

[fallow fiber]

how do i switch to mouse and keyboard controls?

[rose yew]

I need new sources of info to misinfo

[rose yew]

alt + f4