#📨・meta-help
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confirmed trs is recommending newbies pull on cub banner with bc
kinda expensive 2 pulls for 100$
Yes
another trs brick into the collection
how do u use black cards?
nice strawman
i use the yellow ones
wish trs would straw me like a man


In wz you can easily beat ss3 cw that solo with 5* cw and ss feral
With skill dat is

Yeah fair
Ppc is worse in that regards
wait til you see actually good solo cw players
skip luna and ishmael
Okay but they already kiwi
skip void completely
just skip pgr
Since luna rotates anyway is sig THAT important for her to work in wz?
Ik the matrix orb mechanic but can she work without it at all?
sure
most likely forced to cap out at 1 rot instead of doing 2
anything works without sig and everything
depends on how well it works
just basic attack for 2minutes

16/16 orbs
Bracket division also the reason why
Damn
With finding the casual bracket you can easily retain hero even with f2p account
Which isn't really that hard with the more bracket available in the game
Huaxu also telling how much bracket has been made also make it easier to find one
Yeah I got placed in a whel bracket last week 😭
Ok do it with *5 qu, changyu & wanshe
Im waiting
i'm doing wz with 5* changyu and 5* wanshi
gonna ignore the qu part

Gameplay
Btw what's your score this rotation
lower damage than plume
For what
Since we have similar comps
Who tf watch 5* qu gameplay
i do
i haven't done much mald yet but i think i'm at 2.2m right now in ice
U don't even use yt
wtf
Same as me then
I think we kinda hit the cap for our invest probably
idk if i want to mald tbh, all the runs i did i end up walled by the same thing which is the w17 vassago
Lmao same
My best run had vassago surviving at like 10hp 💀
time to join and see what cancer bracket i get
he goes underground if you don't kill him right away, which i can't, so i'd have to get there like a whole 10s faster which i don't think is possible
To prove your argument
There is no way u got good score compare to normal invest qu
Same exact with ppc
Is just bullsht saying warzone doable as f2p
Same with other ppl saying 5 fps is smooth
so i'm happy leaving it there
Dude
rank?
That's why I used seeshell
The fact I can retain hero with Alisa harmo and only 5* lamia cw and qu is more than enough to say about it
2s qu sig with 5* changyu 5*hypnos
I don't need more proof
5 fps is smooth tho 
na hero
ss0 r1 qu, 5* changyu/wanshi
lightning void physical
they need to add a bracket between hero and legend so bad. My biggest issue with wz is that for long-term lowish->dolphin spenders hero retain/legend promote bouncehouse is trivial but in legend you get immediately bodied by sss+ whales getting 7m points
U can stay on your ppc mode
wtf is this middle boss 
Wz u fight with 15 ppl
U got xx score & rentent didnt mean is doable as f2p
That's why I did say bracket division also affect it
I'm gonna upload footage I wanna know if you did anything particularly different from me
It is easier because you can simply look for easy bracket with proper time login
Hi

oh yea btw, which team you guys recommend to build?
I'm new player
sure, though even if you do something different from me, she's only been out a few days so it's not like i'm an expert either 
Wait we can choose bracket?
Always has been
yea the disparity is very apparent due to only 2 people promoting at most from each hero bracket, even less if either/both of them dont have full merit lmao
"choose" based on when you open wz
Which one should i choose
Just don't click wz menu after reset or on Monday/Thursday
Yeah but we might have learned different things so that could be useful
hopefully ill upload a better run this weekend
https://huaxu.app/na/warzone/356/16
#pgr #punishinggrayravenglobal
The most important thing surviving wz as f2p is really not getting into sss bracket
not s+ qu wtf jeremy fake.
changyu to support qu when u get her from the debut banner and entropy will help newbie phys team
sss+ is a lie
lol
Thanks
The amount of skill issues player that can be put in 15 player bracket for hero is a lot
where are ur blues for true "asmr"
i hate this character
i am literally mashing my keyboard out of frustration
i dont press my keys this hard normally

I TOLD YOU PEOPLE
as if it works like that lul
brackets are always hit and miss, regardless of when you join
the only exception are the very early brackets, cuz most die hard whels are joining then, but aside from that, it's just random
BUT NO ONE LISTENED 
"no one listened" -aether when everybody listened
bro everyone listened we cant stop her from coming out
no offense to qu but CW had the best solo arc of all time
i like qu solo a lot more than cw tbh
^
ur buggin
Buggin and thuggin
nanami better
just tellin it how it is
solo cw felt perfect
what abt orb rng or getting interrupted with those strikes??
it's not actually that bad
the mix of i can do stuff differently and i dont get frustrated playing it
You can easily skip that part
With enough reset button

yeah easy right??..
getting staggered is genuine skill issue
orb rng sure but i got dlt so like 
I’ve never reset more in my life than with Qu

it does still cause a lot of resets but like, it's really not that bad

:😭
I don’t really reset with CW
the thing about qu orb rng is that if you get a bad enough hand dealt, it completely bricks the whole run
i dont remember resetting this much with cw 
It’s just now that I have Wata and Qu
but that kind of totally unsalvageable situation doesn't happen nearly as often as people think
CW feels like she does 0 damage
Crimson weak anyway
The thing that happened:

orb rng is worse than stagger for sure
the staggering is 100% skill issue, no exceptions
Fr😭
no its not
he got staggered by the game's input
Qu is built on iframes, if you get staggered thats on you 
he got staggered by a completely predictable pattern
hold atk triggers a special long basic animation
before it plays the hold atk animation the basic has to play out first
yeah you can just dodge the hazard and then hold basic
you can see roseblade's atk coming tho
the most obnoxious is when the lihgtning appears after you start holding basic
people are complaining bc gen2 has gotten them used to not having to pay attention to what's happening on the field

just look at what's happening bro
yeah just dodge/delay the hold atk a bit tbh
All those animations happening makes me blind ok ?
it's all avoidable
I swear I’ve been staggered straight out of my ult
So we all have problems with qu 
Is that a skill issue?
you haven't
but if you avoid it then you're wasting time = lower score
the thing is when you're used to iframing moves perfectly
Qu's iframe is a whole second behind input which is entirely different from other character's input -> animation transition
dodge button exists
that's all there is to it
like that is not on the player
Wanshi gonna fix Qukra
Trust
yes dodge exists doesn't change the sh*t design
i mean sure it's bad, but you also need to adjust to her kit

if you don't adjust even knowing it then that's on you
yeah you need to adjust to her kit
just ult before you get hit 
but fact remains that getting staggered is skill issue
Adjusting is one thing
but the design itself is still sh*t
that i can agree with
you can't really be expecting to defend qu kit design of all things
Could have been more

not like nnin's exwife here
Also why are you looking at my screentime

seems more like you're just defending lack of skill 
Yes
Nah
not my problem people don't want to look at screen, das all
no i'm looking at this from a dev perspective not a player perspective
I don't ||cuz I haven't played her at all
||
if you wanna say it's bad design sure i don't care to argue that

every unit thus far has an incredibly short transition to iframe
but trying to argue that it's not the player's fault is just false
yeah i have problems with her showing her legs everytime i boot up the game
can't focus smh 
it might be bad design but still, it's objectively the player's execution error for getting staggered
U both should kiss
the core design needing players to adapt is the problem here in the first place
yes skilled players can still avoid it happening
but it doesn't change that the fk ing thing is there
One hand gaming I see😔
i don't really feel like "game design requiring players to adapt" is a bad thing lmao
it is when the design is bad
to be honest i'd rather have more things like this that are forcing people to remember game mechanics exist
qu code works differently from every other chara input


everyone else usually skips out of their basic attack for hold atk animations
Tbh same I’m getting annoyed but atleast it’s making me get better 
Qu has to play her ENTIRE basic before the hold atk plays

She's literally CODED DIFFERENTLY
its not game mechanics its the order of processes that is the problem here
bro, u forgot or what
i have a lot of experience *5 cons gameplay
u cant denied it, both wz and ppc need proper invest
f2p has no right
Speaking of the hold atk
Idk if it's just me but while I have been playing her u also have to hold it for a ridiculously long time and if you let go 0.1s early it cancels the whole thing
if you want to blame it all on the players sure be snide about it
but it doesn't change that her design is so janked
really
i don't think you have to hold it longer than most other holds
Nah
because it plays the basic anim first
i think it's due to the fact that she does the sword swiping first before the iceberg slash
the swipe -> turn move is basic
it's 2 diff moves after all
only when you SEE the iceberg is it iframe
Oh ewwwwww
see this is what i mean by garbage design
he's talking about the input, not the iframe
U can just dodge it with 3 stack and can hold right away isn't it
yes
her ult anim is a dumb stair walk for goons, her design is clearly made by a goon who just put random stuffs together 
all you have to do to guarantee the input is just hold it like halfway through the basic animation
you can let go well before the iceberg animation actually starts
because the differentiation is the basic has no iframe and the hold has
i'm just saying the iceberg showing is when the basic has ended
just dont get hit
Yea that's usually my cue
the input sequence is basic -> hold


and that alone is the major source of problems for qu kit
sss in particular has to deal with special basic twice
every rotation
because u hold atk at 2 stacks
Ill happily deal w Qu's slumping orb economy, just please get rid of that
its a dumb thing that shouldn't have existed in the first place
nah orb is 100% worse for me
Same😭
i'd rather that get fixed first
like come on are you really going to blame players for this garbage existing

Orb economy sucks but it's manageable
having to pay attention to that +ordering and THEN dodging fcking Rossblade is too much for me
Orb hungry units are going to continue to be made but not having proper super armor in 2024 is really cringe ngl
shes so pretty tho
*happily tap qu
same 

But you won’t see the legs

Just look down
Ez
Why are u looking at legs anyway 
Nah it hits different when she sitting down
What's that 

what do u look at then 
I like what I like 
Her hair and headress
honestly i hope they keep makin em so i can skill gap all of yall 
I love her hair ngl
hair fetish wtf 
Whaduhelll
We need to talk
Who said anything ab fetish

i love her pointy gloves
Hell nawh
the one that broke his spatula and messed up his jam out of malding
U two talking gonna get swat team coming
Am I not allowed to like a girl's hair?
ACKSHUALLY the jam was perfect
high skill floor high skill ceiling
i hope he stubs his toe fr
Welcome to Internet 
surely zaddy 
it just looks a bit odd and chunky because the strawberries were
this close to going bad
Even I don't wish my worst enemy that

zeru u want content
Does it smells?
yes 
ok it's time
Or it just another metal scents
hey maybe qu will make that one guy in pgr general happy cuz it isnt a 2 button character idk
That one guy still playing?

guys
Who is this one guy is he legendary
water got into my ear after shower, what do i do
He's that one guy
Blow it up

tilt head to the side with the water and jump

How much water should I put there before jumping
2 gallon?
a few litres should be good
lie on something warm with the clogged ear side down
Distilled or tap
aight that works too yeah
classic
Ocean water
either that or a q tip, but jumping is more efficient

Medium or high
Spring
Can I use over?
for them extra minerals
😔 should get a haircut tbh

What should I do next?
Ouh okay
should dry up the water
Should I grind the salt or nah
free salt and u wanna grind it

put it in ur food

What too much thoughts does to a mf


gonna restart pc, feels like someones mining on it

i was wondering why i never have orbs on my 3rd rotation, i forgot i can hold dodge on swap in 
He forgor
?
Qu
Qu
3p + 1p + hold dodge

First time yeh

U don't start with qu


Nice
Good to know
Thank you for your contribution
From your efforts, 2 people have stayed in hero instead of demoting



Made the mistake of Malding
U always did anyway
haxlao
I think
Time to unga bunga
Nice
does ss r1 flare leap want all 3 skills levelled?
Trust zone + Best zone
SS ?
you always want to max all skills on relevant leaps
Then why not
Leap in general wants all 3 to be maxed anyway
nah i'd leap 1
i'd leap outta the window fr
ye
Bye
a shame im on ground floor
Bro stop
i'll sss eventually 
U aren't cw
so yall will be seeing me soon
qu gameplay
She's paking ded
Max it and enjoy a proper lightning team rotation before Nanaknight solos
her Story stage should have special animation where enemies interrupt her ult animation and tripped over the stairs
what if no 21 
You don't have feral with sig ?
Whel
Sss feral at least
SS3
i don't have her at all. i usually just run sss alisa or any random amp
Same whel
Then her leap is useless for you unless SSS garnet which is eh
glorious cw solo 
so i just stay with solo cw?

How do you chain Garn leap again
34sec is possible and they are slacking
Just 2 3p without dodge and basic?

just swap in, ult, do 2x3 at the end of the ult, hold basic
Nah
Swap slam > ult > blue 3p + any 3p > hold basic
yes you just chain 3pings like with lamia

and then solo nanami after she releases
Interesting
Blue 3p because that's the only 3p which directly converts itself to a stack
no more cw after
solo nanami 


gameplay-help = solo endorsers
it doesnt lol
you still need to basic after it
its just really quick so if you hold basic after blue you insta basic and slam
Wait let me rephrase it
It's the fastest

solo cw, solo qu, solo nanami, solo luna, solo wata, solo lilith
idk how bad wihtout ss it actually is since with leap ur doing the dash after ult
and i dont think the animation is that bad compared to default ult
should tell them to solo lucia fr
at least nanami has a condusive kit for solos
wdym tell them
If only I have cogs to try it rn

ur telling people to solo nanami
ur one of em
not my fault her numbers are that good
just let some event currency time out and you'll have an infinite cog supply

fr who needs memories
wait what's the lightning team rn in cn?
cw solo
Nanami main DPS
if under SSS CW, use Garn + Feral 21, solo Nanami
if over SSS CW, use CW + 21
assuming SS baseline for units as usual
baseline is S
nice trolling
get real
nah, not trolling
everytime i say SS as a baseline, they're S when they post image
thats the baseline here
they're just not motivated enough
It's gonna hurt
B tiera was here a second ago

And it does good damage
Garnet's slams are starting to hurt again

should I get garnet sig?
nah
she S 
nah
let me see what stuff I have 
not worth with nanami on the event horizon
ic
with patch acceleration i would just forget about back investing in old units
oh wait empur leap is next patch


finally she will go fast
I leaped my S garnet guys


skibidi skibidi

How tf
6 bars left on siren hell 
gyatt
i was on ohio
these all my sigs + qu sig thats not on the pic
maybe I should get kaleido sig?
R2 Daren 
ye
monthly and bp will be same price and value as if we were on normal schedule? does it only mean we will have to spend same amount of money in shorter time period?
Siren Hell 
a very scuffed one, but an attempt nevertheless 

you buy 3x monthly and 3x bp every patch to keep up same invest
how many chars one patch have?
3(?)
are we speaking in integrated 6-week versions?
not sure if they made an announcement yet
Is that truly the only place to get those mats?
iirc its 2 or 3 chars within 6-week cycle
ye, or boss stages
I see, thanks

yes
i assume maybe they would try to keep it to be one paid S rank per patch?
I still don't understand where the problem lies, it sounds like same money I would spend but it would be over longer time if we were on normal schedule

well yes it's just that it's more money in the same amount of time
Hi guys, I just notice that, sometimes, in her fish form, Lamia energy just auto deplete? (Very fast, I literally have to hit BA like crazy fast to have enough energy to use Ult) Lol. Anyone know why? 
tldr peoples incomes don't double like pgr patches
its same money in shorter amount of time
why incomes should double?
sorry but
are u doing Norman cloud mine and got hit by energy drain?
WTF?
they should overcompensate for the inconvenience that they put us on this speedrun, but why double earning economy?
Yeah, I were doing norman, don’t know about that energy drain though
yes so in the same time frame, you pay more just to get the same benefits as before
I think thats fine (but still overcompensate with SOMETHING for the inconvenience of the fact they put on fast schedule)
idk you do you then
most people don't
i mean people's money irl
can someone help me change the setting so i can use my mouse to attack and shift to dodge instand of letters 😭..
left click attack button
in the end I would end up sinking the same amount of money, but I would have more time to do it
like if someone was spending 100$ a month for SSS acc and now they would have to spend 300$ a month just to have the exact same benefits?
nahh
I get it that lot of people don't have that much money right now
yeah but going from $20-30 a month for a year -> $80-90 a month for a year is
understandably bad right
i dont understand itt
idk how to do the settings
just remap in the settings
i mean you have to press the attack button using your left click

remap? where
yeah, its financially very inconvenient
keybinds menu
maybe you living from single bowl of rice a week, then the schedule will kill your ability to spend
control type? do i change it to system
Anyway to counter that energy drain in Norman? That is annoying as hell 
and btw no guarantee they don’t rush u with multiple collabs/b2b s ranks again right after catchup ends so
I scrapped her sig
We’re already going through 4 consecutive S ranks in CN rn
glb is doing that on accelerated schedule
free surely doesn't mean crap at base level 
lilith is free yes
and you can get her sig/cub free too
what do i change it to system or video or whattt
her ranks don’t affect rotation either
from base S all the way to SSS+ its the same rotation
lot of people might be looking at their spending as how much time they get per their buck (aka how many weeks will they have the privilege to mald in ppc and wz before their characters go out of meta
)
but her dmg triples with ranks
You can change those? 
.
where is the catch?
bruh
QTE CD reset on swap at SSS
will the damage really incentive spending?
she’s voucher
do the sub node with energy drain first to disable it in the main hive if you really need
Gomen Gomen
I haven't touched pc cilent in a while
hopefully f2p be done with sss wansha at that point so they can go for sss lilith 
combat
and you change the keybinds
press on the keybind you need to change and input the button you need
i did it to system its good but its still hard i dont wanna press one all the time 😭

CN would, globlul would never
why system
u wanna change combat keybinds bruh
patton on top or can i keep my charlottes there?
if you already have your 4char built just change the 2p to patton
i wanna use my mouse as attack
bet
well in worst case speedup there’s a 8 week gap
press Y in combat to change camera mode
k
any rough estimate how many patches till we catch up?
it still sounds like lof of rushed patches
we will catch up on anni 
will casuals even be able to keep up?
like that?
i don’t want to calc that so
ignorance is bliss
when ur in stage
press Y
it will lock your mouse
and you can use left click to basic

and I lack the ability to do it so 
MY FINGERS ALREADY HURT 😭
what
how do yall even do this
in combat
play more rhythm games
it'll fix your carpal tunnel
idk you kinda just play the game and it works
I'm curious, you've said multiple times that you don't even play the game, but then how are you so knowledgeable and have motivation to be involved?
im a wuwa player that doesnt hurt my fingers 🤔
because the meta of this game is a good popcorn show
and also its fun to watch you guys react to stuff
does "I don't even play the game" actually means "I secretly play the game but I will be grumpy about it and say that I don't"?
he was asking for ishmael rots frfr
how are you gathering info?
I have other gachas to attend to
now that i’m afraid i can’t share
I find it fascinating that someone follows the meta and drama around gacha but doesn't even play it
you guys get a bridge to CN info out of it
Really?
so
Its better to share info directly anyways
rather than waiting for sh*t takes from fury or spider2b
i think i broke my mouse yall
i’d rather less misinfo be spread around
Congratulations
i think i pressed it to hard
U did a Great job at it
I swear the Aether is feasting on the reactions of the Globlulians
Always has been
Test

i thrive on idiots
countermiku squad 
well i didnt broke it fully i just cant press it normally i used to do
you have something in common with Jambu

Too bad Miku already kiwi
Jambu harness the brick power
anyways
ok but... do you feel pleasure when an idiot becomes wiser?

That
Exists?


I mean its "gameplay-help"
pleasure
i think you have a very different idea of what this is
or is it catharsis
Fr fr

well, some people feel pleasure when they help others 
What are you talking about anyway
Something something helping
Something something wise
I'm trying to get into Aether's head 
I'm global so idk what to read
and understand why they didn't kiwi long time ago
and instead help migitigate misinfo
Summed up 1 word
ok but aren't there milion other better things to do when bored?
varies from person to person ig
I don't think they getting anything valuable from here other than being a man talking like a broken record (basically answering the same questions over and over
)
No
More fun this way

And to spice things up
Let's add procrastinating factor
discord denizens are a special breed
actually, thats a factor I can relate to
but Aether doesn't sounds like someone who has this problem, but I might be wrong
like procrastination hinders your ability to read properly 
he is helpful enough for someone who already didn't play the game
Is it reasonable to skip Nanaknight and get her on lilith patch or does the game give you enough to afford nanami and ishmael
You can't just expect the game to "not give you enough" for both character when you haven't even actually played their patches to get the income yet
So until u actually couldn't get both in debut, any skipping is invalid
Remember
Bc income has been more than 7.5k since several patches ago
As long as you don't spend on random things, getting character on debut is just as easy as usual
and I've been still spreading misinfo that we earning this much 

So the people that were complaining just weren't planning enough

They never had solid plan since the first place if the thing they asked first is to make global catch up with CN
Those with proper plan will actually annoyed from catching up with CN
Those that actually made bc planning for themselves will be glad the longer patches they have
So they can afford little bit more than just character every debut patch

I have a bc planner and I don't mind the speed run tbh 
K whel
You mean my bc planner?
U got 1k rc ready for every Luna skin release in the future
That's more than a bc planner already


tbh, I like the dolljoint luna base skin the most
can't blame me, I see luna I start dripping
white luna is gorgeous
I'm considering buying luna coating as bonus, but at this rate probably not 

how to identify them:
they think crimson weave is the strongest character even now
alpha=vergil daughter meme
luna is favorite/2nd favorite
sss/s+ brs
character skippers

4 of the points there is relatable to me 
Just swipe more
add more: patton vera 
jinhsi signature and skin 
Whonshi
u r special migu chan 

is this a weird of saying they are a good candidate for ban? 
now get a room 

but lately they've been standing out too much from the misinfo crowd 
not that long from now
they're already banned from viewing pin section


sounds special
One of a kind
I have about 3 harmos available - should I use them on Qu, Wata, and Lamia? Only other one I have harmo'd is echo. Or do I save one for Luna/should harmo empy?
Save for luna
She's my everything
all of them 
restart disc
else skill issue
yes harmo qu wata and lamia, you'll have another one up for luna
New cr rot this update right?
still can't access
Next next week yeh
ratio


25 rn
I have a chance to unbrick my cn account but i need to recharge RC 
all 3 would have prio over CW right?
Ur a whel anyways
Elon musk son
azriel is elok musk's son?
blocke

sounds like sugar daddy material 
Tbh same here, I can unbrick my acc but I need to recharge rc
yes for sure

11 dec iirc

a much more complex but free way to unbrick:
complex? it's actually pretty simple 
3x 
Im like 11 pulls shy for the anniv banner
who will u get 
Han
I could probably go for lamia but she is too old

🚪 🚶♂️
Whadapak what server

i dont want a furry
If you don't have chrome glory and his sig he's the next best option
U SURE?
Yes.
he will be off field 100% of the time so 
hmmm
No way they're gonna get qu's sig rn
Changyu should only be off field if qu has SS + sig
if hes not good i want a refund
He's not "good" but the other option (glory chrome) isn't much better if at all
whats glory chrome bro
Chrome: Glory
shetty ice tank
.
Think of it this way
Chrome Glory is trash so Changyu isn't a bad alternative
alright then ill try him out
nope don't, he is better as a support not to play with 
The original wriothesley 
who is free
hes not good the other options just aren't much beyyer
So as an ice tank yes he is one of the bes
as a support not as a character you will switch to,
basically qu carry the team and he carries her throne
But as a tank he's quite disappointing
ohhhhh
alright i got it now
Omg I am preg
wth
tbh the real ice tank is lucid dreamer. glory and changwho is pretending 


do yall think ill be able to do this now as lvl 33
bruh
why not try
his moveset is seggs 

yep, so is everything else
I'm going to style on deez nuts bosses with him 
how come all the male english va suit their characters but the female ones kinda feel off
nope cant do it
kuro no budget


The female voices are too soft for a post apocalyptic game

ikr, vera feels like a child in english
imagine listening to en voice 
i was just trying out, cuz of wanshin male voice
it doesn't matter
currently,any ice units wouldn't see the light of dawn
he sounds good
Honestly i think lee's en voice is a bit weird too
Not that it's bad but it's definitely different
since qu is her
ohh yee kinda meh
yeah
dawn mentioned 
please jump off

this is torture 😀..
torture on deez nuts
How to get qu memory?
your unit team composition is all over the place
should i pull for that woman
pins
Alr ik ur a beginner but that team is cursed
no
nah she outdated

Qu
qu shukra
he started yesterday
qu shukra
kk
if A ranks,just pick A ranks that compliment her element
BUT MAKE SURE NOT TO HIT PITY
or aka same element
actually doesn't really matter since changyu and kaleido is free anyway
in A rank, pick changyu, no 21 and vera
just pick anyone
Watanabe will be released on the standard banner next patch, he will be the best choice from the standard bann
and wanshi, till you unlock ayla
For warzone with solo qu, SSS wanshi is better if Ayla kaleido doesn't have sig
or if you wanna enjoy the game fr





not scuffed if kills




