📨・meta-help

[nova forum]

There's more fish in the sewer anyway

[shadow holly]

r u getting early access right away

[nova forum]

[jaunty beacon]

Trial pgr sucks

[frail hinge]

I keep hearing that luna is one of the harder units to learn, how hard is she?

[analog cargo]

fiend gave code

[jaunty beacon]

Easy to play. Hard to master. Like every units

[frail hinge]

What's all this about

[jaunty beacon]

[frail hinge]

Perfect

[still moat]

not hard at all

[frail hinge]

?

[quartz dove]

What is this whel mentality

[shadow holly]

damn crazy

[jaunty beacon]

Yours

[quartz dove]

Everyone here is corrupted i swear

[stuck sphinx]

what whel mentality

nobody wants to play ss no dlt

[quartz dove]

[ripe stag]

[hidden peak]

Do the free pulls from Fall Letters event have an expiration date?
If i dont want to pull from the target banner right now, can i wait till Luna?

[jaunty beacon]

No

You have to use them

[shut moon]

Has it been confirmed that Qu will be added to the basic target and total recharge selector in Hanying patch?

[ripe stag]

Yes the free pull after you get expires when reset hits

[hidden peak]

And reset hits on new patch? I see, thank you

[shadow holly]

qu should be added on Luna patch
2 patches after
considering joint patches idk how exactly it will work tho

[wintry warren]

eos next patch

gg

[frail hinge]

Me playing lamia base s no sig

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1179775282446618645.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[sleek basin]

Next day
If u already chose free pull

[frail hinge]

Nonono next reset is the next day!

[shut moon]

Bridget's patch, right? But it can be assumed that Bridget patch will be integrated with Teddy and Luna like KR

I suppose this might be the only time where we get the new costruct added the patch after since we might never get 3 patches integrated into one ever again

[hidden peak]

Oh wow, quick spoiling tickets, understood, thank you

[sleek basin]

Yeah, but we don't know whether kuro f this up or not

[shut moon]

True

[still moat]

who else can 9s test siren ?

[shut moon]

I'd not be surprised if Qu is added in Hanying's instead

[sleek basin]

Trueslash team is gonna be cooked

In this case

[frail hinge]

Omg merciful one wz rotating is MIND NUMBING

Not as bad as qu but it really is just ults back to back

[digital moat]

You just ult

A lot of times

And do kicks in between

[shut moon]

I see that there's a spending event in Luna patch
Does global usually get this too? And with the exact same rewards/details?

[frail hinge]

Yeah it doesn't even feel like she has any other mechanics that deal any sort of damage

Just

Ult

[shadow holly]

else from who
phys can 8
tempest can 8

[still moat]

fel invest phys or

[rare gazelle]

Hello I'm new in pgr can you recommend for me what is the best element to bluild for beginner

[sleek basin]

Yeah

[shadow holly]

nah siren is mad squishy it should be doable with any phys xd

[still moat]

5 bar left

[shadow holly]

you'll build ice because the current debut char is ice

[shut moon]

I assume the weapon/CUB selector will work like the ones from total recharge? 2 patches before

[shadow holly]

no way

[digital moat]

Below sss I'd say qu is much better but I have never experienced ish gameplay so

[rare gazelle]

Oh ok thank you

[woven haven]

please do this in 10s or less btw

[frail hinge]

OK so
You can get ayla kaleido from the dorms
She's an ice unit to get you started

Fire team is way too expensive right now

Physical team not as expensive

There should be some selectors in the near future that allow you to get the physical attacker 'Bianca'for free

And her support 'Alisa' also free from the dorms

[frail hinge]

Kuro heard us call pgr gameplay braindead and said bet 😭

[rare gazelle]

Ok thanks for the information:)

[still moat]

i prob cant 8 anyway without fdodge

or maybe

4 patton 4 charlotte ? cause its core kill

[shadow holly]

4char 2cot 2dw

[still moat]

who holds patton

[shadow holly]

no one duh

[still moat]

[shadow holly]

[still moat]

but why cottie though

isnt it core kill

[shadow holly]

one less 3ping for ult

[digital moat]

Ult1 at 6s?

[still moat]

but its core kill

[shadow holly]

wdym core kill

[still moat]

like

[shadow holly]

Alisa yellow FD core ult1

[still moat]

kill on core ?

[shadow holly]

ez clap no?

[still moat]

this was core damage

[shadow holly]

tho i mean sure you can also try to work some Balter start zaza

[digital moat]

You just gotta be faster on each part

[shadow holly]

ok so you finish off with ult1 DMG

[still moat]

thats what i did

but i assume 8s is fdodge + core kill

[shadow holly]

yes

just fdoj

[still moat]

[digital moat]

Did you not just say ult1 finish

[stray siren]

Gen 2/3 are ez they said

[digital moat]

Iont understand whel gameplay

[frail hinge]

Anytime ´ ▽ ` )ﾉ

I will recomend that you build the element based on who you manage to get at first. The main strongest units you should aim for(that will determine which element you build or not) are

Lamia: Lost lullaby
She's a dark attacker
Very strong
And currently available in the beginner selector

Then
Watanabe: Epitaph
Fire tank
Very very strong

will Be useful for a long time

Qu: shukra
This patches debut character
Meaning she is available under her banner right now and at 100%
Very very strong.

But he's expensive to get as there's no free way to get him

Lucia: crimson weave:
Lightning attacker
Super string
Very cool
But same issues as watanabe

The 2 free units Alisa: echo and ayla kelaido

A third free unit of Selena: capriccio
She's a dark supporter
Weak but still, free!
You can get her from the event "Retatitivo Di fantasia"

Whichever of the non free important units you manage to stumble upon first should be the first element you focus on

[still moat]

test

[digital moat]

And this is just test

[still moat]

[digital moat]

[digital moat]

[frail hinge]

How hard is pyroath btw

[distant wren]

You can't 9s with lightning?

[digital moat]

It easy just eat your keyboard

[still moat]

cant

[digital moat]

Used lighting on lamia?

[frail hinge]

Are you just actually min maxing test

[digital moat]

[still moat]

my lightning is 10s

[digital moat]

HUH

[distant wren]

U can do it
Believe in the power of reset

[quiet lily]

mald 7 red

[shadow holly]

https://youtu.be/1z35VKwJIKI?si=AyLJIpGSlj9yNh48
do the same rot as here with phys

[still moat]

but yeah i have 5 balter AP anyway, why mald test lightning when balter did it pretty easily

[frigid moth]

Real question, which upcoming characters need their weapon?

[digital moat]

My lightning did 9 9 10

[frail hinge]

All of them

[still moat]

i cant fdodge

[distant wren]

I got 10s the last few times siren is on as well but managed to 9s this week

[shadow holly]

time to learn

[frail hinge]

Arguably qu needs hers the least compared to everyone coming

Maybe Hanying doesnt need as well but idk how important her sig is

[frigid moth]

Also what are universally the best CUBS in CN?

[still moat]

i will not learn fdodge or core cancel balter

[shadow holly]

bro too busy getting lvl30 in gfl literally how

[quartz dove]

Isnt u already fat in gfl too ?

[frail hinge]

Sorry m8
There's no "universally" In this game

Different.units different cubs

I will recomend lama's cub, the dolphin!

[quartz dove]

Ready to pull springfield

[shadow holly]

I'm like
lvl25
and broke

literally zero pulls

[quartz dove]

[rare gazelle]

I'll be sure to keep that in mind thank so you much:)

[sleek basin]

The least
💀

It's wanshi

[frail hinge]

Compared to luna?

[shadow holly]

lucid dreamer and Nanami star trail cubs are objectively the highest personal damage gains and it's not close

[frail hinge]

Ah alr fair
Idk wanshi's requirements rhat well

Plus anything he does would outclass chrome

[frigid moth]

bet

[frail hinge]

Sooooo
Anyone wanna join the Atlantic cult

We eat caviar on.sundays!

[frigid moth]

So Wanshi needs the weapon the most?

[frail hinge]

As we worship our Lord and savior
Lamia

[frail hinge]

least(I think)

[still moat]

fairly easy

its wata's that hard

[sleek basin]

Opposite

[frail hinge]

Tf
With the 2 form switches 2 ults and one half ult?

[frigid moth]

Dang and they're the free unit that's crazy

[long sun]

Are there any leaps that are worth it?

[frail hinge]

Vera
Empyrea

Bianca

[still moat]

form switch and ult is just tap ult

nothing hard about tapping ult

[sleek basin]

Empy, daren for ion, balter for slash

Garnet as well, ig

[frail hinge]

Yeah but I mean there's alot to her rotation right?

[shadow holly]

currently on global, Rosetta and Garnet

[still moat]

if by a lot u mean her doing the similar thing 6 times then sure

[frail hinge]

To have so much to her kit balancing it all has gotta be hard no?
Watanabe has far less and he's apparently one if the hard units to min max

[shadow holly]

tho depending on how new you are you might want to ignore Rosetta leap atp

[frigid moth]

Yeah Rosetta isn't going to be worth the investment at this point

[frail hinge]

Lamia leap when

[shadow holly]

another affix leap
glaciation probably

to pair with wanshi

[frail hinge]

Lamia and wanshi working together?

HECK YEA

[shadow holly]

just a speculation but it would make a lot of sense

[still moat]

not at all

[long sun]

I am pretty new

[still moat]

if i was trying to write her rotation input its like 1/3 of shakespeare watanabe's

[frail hinge]

Whaaaa

[long sun]

I am just looking for someone to use for the story (cuz the ones i usually use are over leveld af) and Maybe warzone

[frail hinge]

The hell

[frail hinge]

Alpha

[rose yew]

which one

[shadow holly]

then yeah ig don't leap Rosetta atp and you most likely don't have Garnet at SS and sig anyway xd
for leap just wait for future ones

[long sun]

I don't have her

[rose yew]

👀

[shadow holly]

💀

[frail hinge]

Either

[rose yew]

unpossible

[shadow holly]

that abomination should be deleted from the game
all versions

[frail hinge]

Wtf did you just say to me

[shadow holly]

I'm afraid i can't repeat or i would summon Matt

[mighty tusk]

||she's kinda deleted in story though||

[shadow holly]

big Kuro w

[still moat]

pyroath

[mighty tusk]

||then kuro dropped a branching timeline so.....||

[still moat]

wata

[frail hinge]

Oh yeah....

Without the hetero tower, acension network refiltering doesn't happen so lamia luna and alpha dont have their new frames

I hate the new story wtf

[mighty tusk]

wouldn't that mean that kuro can afford to make another alpha frame to milk on again?

because I am not looking forward to more vergil memes

[frail hinge]

Maybe but CW NYYOOOOOO

I doubt they'd plan to make new versions of everyone's frames

The frames are just
gone

Kuro why

[frigid moth]

So who exactly needs their weapon most as far as CN PGR?

[remote pier]

Everyone

[frail hinge]

OK so
Spiral of chronos doesn't happen so hypereal doesn't happen

No hetero towers so pyroath doesn't get made

No acnet refiltering so lamia luna and alpha don't happen

Alisa still happens but I doubt she'd ever come to meet us due to her story starting by hiding in the converted hetero tower

[remote pier]

What is lore doing in gph?

[hazy cypress]

and there you go, missing all major points

[rose yew]

what lore

[frail hinge]

Please tell me in just an idiot and am wrong

[rose yew]

i dont recall any of those in pgr

[remote pier]

Nya

[hazy cypress]

nah, idk about alpha, luna, lamia

[mighty tusk]

story skipper smh

[frigid moth]

Also how does one get lv 3 weapon harmonization?

[remote pier]

this exist you know https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/976268956279144458

[still moat]

[remote pier]

doesn't exist

[frail hinge]

What point was I missing?

[mighty tusk]

does not exist, they forgot to remove lvl2 and lvl 3 from beta

[still moat]

chaos siren cant fast ult kill ?

[hazy cypress]

anyway, not talking about it here

come to cn lore

[frail hinge]

Bet

[frigid moth]

OH LMFAO

[still moat]

@digital moat help chaos siren

[mighty tusk]

I'm seeing lots of L Kusogame names in top 100

kuro fcked up hard

[frigid moth]

What they do?

[mighty tusk]

you weren't aware of the glb speedup patch and the paid packs adjustment?

[rose yew]

it wasn't a misinfo?

[stiff night]

Who's sig should I get: Shukra, Stigmata, Lamia, or CW

[frigid moth]

What's the paid packs adjustment?

[mighty tusk]

shukra

[stiff night]

Shukra is most reliant on her sig?

[mighty tusk]

more like, more recent s-ranks want their sig more than past s-rank

[stiff night]

Oh ok

[mighty tusk]

#💬・pgr-general message
better start backreading

and with the speedup patches, investing too much in stigmata and cw is kinda eh.....

hanying and nanaknight is coming to take their respective place as main dps for their respective element

[stiff night]

Oh they do more? lmfao

Alrighty thnx

Should I get DLT on shukra sig?

[mighty tusk]

recommended

but make sure to not sacrifice future s-ranks

[stiff night]

ive got 4 of the resonance USBs. Only sigs I have are Rosetta, Daren, Empy, Echo, and now Shukra

Get DLT on shukra then save?

[mighty tusk]

shukra, then daren

[digital moat]

You just need 7 bars of dmg

[still moat]

[mighty tusk]

daren would want r1 for dark and dlt for ionization

[stiff night]

Ah yeah was thinking daren too

[still moat]

fak this im taking 13s

[digital moat]

I can twerk siren to death if you would like

[digital moat]

Take 12s

[still moat]

idk how to 12s siren

[digital moat]

Slingshot and pray

[mighty tusk]

I took 14 iirc

[dusky quarry]

Your fingers can twerk to death while playing Qu

[still moat]

[stiff night]

Not sure what that means xD

[digital moat]

Sorry I already died in red with lamia

[still moat]

my fingers slow so im taking 13s

[mighty tusk]

ag

[digital moat]

I did 9 9 10 12 12

[digital moat]

Sht dmg sht unit

[mighty tusk]

my lightning sucks though

[still moat]

idk how to slingshot

[mighty tusk]

and I blatantly refuse to give cw r1

[digital moat]

It's a bit hard on siren

[still moat]

someone teach me the input pls

[digital moat]

Cause if you take too long to ult1 siren immediately takes off in your direction

[rose yew]

just be faster on every part

[hazy cypress]

anyone with sss balter?

asia server

need support

[stiff night]

Thanks. So just get DLT for Daren too? Gray Ravens has Tenebrion Shock higher priority than DLT though

[mighty tusk]

no I mean, daren wants r1 and you can switch between teneb shock and dlt

[stiff night]

Oh u can swap them?

[mighty tusk]

so no need to give daren 2 weap resos

[mighty tusk]

you can swap anytime

[stiff night]

Oh nice

[mighty tusk]

that means you have 2 weap resos left to give then?

[stiff night]

Yeah

[hazy cypress]

resonating just unlocks slots

[mighty tusk]

give 1 to luna oblivion for dlt

[hazy cypress]

and you can switch between whatever

[stiff night]

Got it thanks.

That is if i manage to get her sig tho haha

[visual wind]

Do Qu ss no sig still better than 2 sig reso Plume ss?

[still moat]

im not surviving this

[hazy cypress]

yes

[mighty tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/927836702318424075.gif?quality=lossless&size=48

[visual wind]

How much

[hazy cypress]

qu has time stop, plume doesn't

[mighty tusk]

I'm below you

[stiff night]

I got lucky and got a 3rd extra 6 star to trash for 450 memory from that free wep research

[hazy cypress]

qu has massive damage anyway, plume's damage is worse than ayla

[still moat]

[hazy cypress]

a lot, i dont have exact numbers

[mighty tusk]

why not try against lamia ult ppc

[hazy cypress]

already done with ppc

i put lamia against lamia

[mighty tusk]

it's to compare qu and plume's dmg

[still moat]

ur plume suck

its not plumover yet

[whole pond]

is the order of your memory cards important?

[frigid moth]

I just saw what that entails, triple the spending 💀 (Forgot to reply lol)

[turbid bridge]

You don’t need slingshot for siren 12s kill just do gapclose swap and normal slam ult2

[mighty tusk]

now let's wait and see how kuro will respond
I heard some cn players heard of this and said they kinda fcked up

[distant wren]

Luna time?

[still moat]

i forgor

i think 11/12/13/13/15

[distant wren]

Wonder if chaos+hell can be 12/13 with mem rework

[still moat]

yea someone did 13s hell

idk how tho looks like windbell damage hax

[dapper skiff]

Real

[still moat]

3s amp

[distant wren]

Do u have the vid?

[digital moat]

Someone help me do 12s elite and knight

[still moat]

i think dazzal shared it

https://youtu.be/xs7ULILPm14
https://youtu.be/XnEflsAHthM

[distant wren]

Just gotta be a bit quicker at each part

[digital moat]

Luna doesn't touch me when I do blaze orb

She is racist

[stiff night]

Without Glory, am I stuck with Qilin until Lucid Dreamer?

[mighty tusk]

she hates males

[mighty tusk]

yes

[digital moat]

Disgusting racist

[dapper skiff]

Nah she just smelled your f2p status

[digital moat]

I'm going to dismember her limbs

[mighty tusk]

but you need glory sig to justify using him over changyu

[digital moat]

[dapper skiff]

Even with glory if you don't have glory sig, it's better to use changyu

[stiff night]

Oh wow

[digital moat]

God I hate ppc

[still moat]

[stiff night]

I hate norman :x

[digital moat]

Wz superior frfr

[still moat]

i hate this game so much

[digital moat]

same

[still moat]

do my cn wz i need 500K to not be demoted

[dapper skiff]

Wz superior frfr

[digital moat]

Give account

[still moat]

[dapper skiff]

Give account (2)

[digital moat]

For legal reasons that is a joke

[dapper skiff]

I'd gladly learn rot from scratch if you're that slack on the best gamemode in the game

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1174906710285090876.gif

[still moat]

[digital moat]

so real bestie

[still moat]

cn built diff bro

[stiff night]

Ah, right, I'm at 2205 cub tickets. Should I spend a little BC to get Shukra's CUB?

Or should I save for a different CUB

Is there an updated CUB priority google doc?

[rose yew]

just wait for next Norman reset

[stiff night]

Norman gives me conniptions

[rose yew]

+6000 cub tix

[still moat]

what s+ player doing in hero

[rose yew]

800w with 3s team?

[mighty tusk]

that's standard though

[still moat]

no standard

anyone who does 20m+ in hero should be a legend retainer

[vestal dust]

where do i register my account

[rose yew]

post office

level 3 turn right

[vestal dust]

oh okay

[vestal dust]

where

[rose yew]

switch account > sign up via

[hazy sandal]

Yes standard

[rose yew]

you should have some options like google acc and Facebook

[still moat]

miku forced to not give misinfo

[hazy sandal]

I guarantee

[vestal dust]

i do

[still moat]

[rose yew]

[hazy sandal]

Hi below standard (pun)

[dapper skiff]

Gotta love kuro consistency

[rose yew]

then click on any one you like you should then have a registered account

[vestal dust]

im clicking its still saying its not registered

[rose yew]

does it show any error message

[vestal dust]

nope

[rose yew]

it usually shows up an error

[vestal dust]

it says "account not registered

[stiff elm]

hey guys, daily dost of brick here

[vestal dust]

okay its working now

[stiff elm]

toda-

[rose yew]

well I'm out of ideas

[stiff elm]

ima grab my free pull before I go to bed

its 2:44 AM

[rose yew]

good luck on arrival pulls

[stiff elm]

if I get those pulls im just gonna build pity.

[stiff elm]

oh nvm I lied, fate time

watch this, selena

[rose yew]

[stiff elm]

trust, first try, ez

[mighty tusk]

who is that brick of a unit?

[stiff elm]

nope

[rose yew]

next time

[lean pulsar]

For lucia tank?

[stiff elm]

its either brick, bricker, or... I mean she works but I dont really need it

[mighty tusk]

I'm biased so take the brick

[rose yew]

does that mean the weapon bundle in top up now gives 3 reso usb

[mighty tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278228053754908684/1289370470361206837/1003604575007277116.gif

[stiff elm]

right?

[mighty tusk]

take the schizo

[stiff elm]

watch this fr

ima pull once and its gonna be stigmata copy trust

i will hit that 0.5% (again)

I think I drained all my luck

with that b2b sig

[pine slate]

For Lucia tank idk

Ur asking the wrong guy here, I don't play poverty invest

[copper warren]

Why uniframes still get debuffs when mixing with a omniframe? I thought the debuff will get removed iirc from pulao patch?

[mighty tusk]

it's the opposite

pulao patch will have debuff when mixing uniframe+omniframe

wanshi patch will remove that debuff since uniframes are obsolete

[copper warren]

Oh ok

[tribal charm]

It took me 1 hour to get this score, ss0 r2 qu

[boreal delta]

is my build alright..? um I'm trying to get good stat on her but idk what to equip

help ples

[mighty tusk]

build lamia

[vale raft]

Lamia: Lost Lullaby <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:attacker:1285839106240417803><:dark_element:1290613554923438102>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set

Memories

4x Derketo
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

Cottie

[mighty tusk]

your resos suck so....adjust

[boreal delta]

yeap I have red cards so imma use it

[river nymph]

[cedar vapor]

Does a-rank hanying give buffs to qu shukra?

The kwolong members buff

[ripe stag]

No

Qukra is not even a Uniframe

[cedar vapor]

Sad

I hate when 99% of the teams are not faction related

Alpha with nanami and 21

[ripe stag]

Why will it be ?

Makes no sense

[cedar vapor]

To be more imersed

[ripe stag]

Lore is lore
Nothing related to gameplay

No game does that

You want Nanami to be alone ?

You want Luna to be alone ?

You want Ishmael to be alone ?

[karmic anvil]

My serum suddenly increased alot ig?

Is it because of leveling up? Please explain

[solar pier]

Probably

Is the final node for Norman not f2p friendly ?

[karmic anvil]

So what should i do now?
Where should i spend it?

I think ive ran out of memories and weapon leveling materials. Where can i find that?

[ripe stag]

Well
Because this patch they upgraded the storage limit of serum

Max serum cap was 160

Now it's 240

[ripe stag]

Very much F2p friendly lol

If you don't have properly built teams that's a you problem but it is very much easy

[karmic anvil]

I see, thanks for the explanation

[solar pier]

How built must they be?

[ripe stag]

Well
The proper build

That's it

[solar pier]

No i mean weopons and rank wise

[pine slate]

Not that hard

[ripe stag]

SS0

Sig? Those who need sig can have it

[pine slate]

Ss sig is good enough

[ripe stag]

It's a leap from EX06 with gen 1 difficulty

[solar pier]

I tried doing the first debuff node and I'm surviving but dmg is slow and the timer runs out

[ripe stag]

But yea

[ripe stag]

use batteries?

[nova forum]

Wot bracket u currently at?

[pine slate]

Hero

[nova forum]

Score on ice?

[pine slate]

3.05m

[ripe stag]

No wonder

[nova forum]

Oh

[solar pier]

I did

[pine slate]

Ss0 r1, ss squid

[ripe stag]

borrow a Balter

[nova forum]

Wadapak squid

[solar pier]

Okay but

Im still not doin enuf dmg in time

Dark team especially

[nova forum]

Is cuckra cub not good?

[pine slate]

No qu cub, I'm f2p

[ripe stag]

I guess your R1 Glory and R2 Kaleido making difference from me

Got 2.79m

[ripe stag]

40% atk up for 8s from the time you use core

[pine slate]

Probably

[ripe stag]

a good buff but not much

[pine slate]

U might be able to 2.9m

[nova forum]

I got like, 3.1m

[ripe stag]

Yea

[nova forum]

[pine slate]

But idk

[ripe stag]

I won't

Mald

More

[nova forum]

Just realized my rotation is garbo

[ripe stag]

You see @pine slate

If i mald more I'm guaranteed fcked

[ripe stag]

[pine slate]

[nova forum]

How often do u switch on phys

[vestal dust]

are the codes expired?

[nova forum]

[pine slate]

Usual rotation

[nova forum]

BruH

[ripe stag]

Balter 1 rot swap

[pine slate]

2.5 Balt > rose > Alisa

[nova forum]

I did solo with 2 swap near the end

[pine slate]

[nova forum]

Got 1.74

[pine slate]

I'm ss rose

[nova forum]

U mald

[pine slate]

My phys is 1 tap score

I only malded ice

[nova forum]

U dalao

[vague nebula]

[nova forum]

I'll try swap later

[dapper skiff]

Which ult did u used before ends

[dapper skiff]

Fast ult?

[pine slate]

Idk

[dapper skiff]

[pine slate]

https://youtu.be/oBwrtSOAsfM?si=RQmJ2gFCCnpyifj9

[ashen edge]

[pine slate]

Dmg hax

Ss3 r3 qu?

Maybe I can get higher then

[ashen edge]

yis

[river nymph]

[ashen edge]

theoretically ss3 can 4.1m at least

but i fked up w18

should've do enhanced ult instead fast ult

[ashen edge]

are u on lg this rot

[white oriole]

I don't have No 21 and Qu yet (currently at 20 pity). Can I guarantee Qu or better skip the free pull event instead?

[pine slate]

No

Hero

[ashen edge]

look doable for 3.5m at least

[pine slate]

Where am I slow on

[vague nebula]

what do u have in your account? can u show?

[keen meteor]

Slow on killing the doods

[white oriole]

https://huaxu.app/ap/players/10903238/characters

[ashen edge]

cant watch ur clip rn cuz im outside

[pine slate]

[ashen edge]

later

ill take a quick peek

[pine slate]

Do u alternate between the 2 ult modes

Or do u sometimes do 2 max dmg ults in a row

[vague nebula]

I'd say save this s rank rate up for S Hanying tank's ss3

[pine slate]

Btw I'm on ss squid

Idk how much boost her personal cub gives

[white oriole]

So I can guarantee Qu from free pulls right? I'm like 20 pity

[mighty tusk]

do you have stories left? cursed waves and derived from matrix?

[white oriole]

And my S Rank Rate Up is at 55 pity already so... I assume I will just skip the event? And no I cleared everything

[vague nebula]

free pulls do u mean the 14 pulls event? thats different banners. only 3 pulls in the qu banner will be free. others u have to play the game.

[pine slate]

Event gives u 4 pulls

So ur 1 off pity

[white oriole]

Wait no I can just cancel the pick I'm dented

[white oriole]

Can't risk the chance so ig I will just build up everything again later

[vague nebula]

oh i forgor free pulls into base banner too

[white oriole]

So if I play daily I can guarantee Qu

[ashen edge]

rarely, unless i have lots of orb to do 2 times max dmg ult

[vague nebula]

yes

Qu banner ends 2nd January

[vestal dust]

who should i choose

[turbid sinew]

Guys I spent all of my bc to Qu. I don't think I have enough pulls for the next char. Should I skip Luna over Hanying or Lucia?

[pine slate]

The patch just started bro

U still got bc to earn

[turbid sinew]

I know but I don't think I can't save enaff bcuz of my stupid lazy ass 😭🙏

[pine slate]

Don't be lazy then

[vague nebula]

entropeak

[vestal dust]

entropeak..?

[vague nebula]

Entropy I mean

[distant wren]

how tf?

[vestal dust]

i want a girl char 😔

[vague nebula]

there will be another one with 10 characters. where u can pick Rosetta Rigor. thats a girl.

[vestal dust]

oh uh

[vague nebula]

Best girl. My wife

[vestal dust]

😭.

[distant wren]

@ashen edge i have ss3 r2 with s cub and imperfect mem resos, anything you think i can improve with my run? https://youtube.com/watch?v=FMnXRlDj1gw

[vestal dust]

alright then

[pine slate]

The score

[willow steppe]

Can a already leveled up memory not be resonanced with another memory

[vague nebula]

I suggested them for a ok enough physical team for u to run. Physical team's support is free farmable in dorm
Her name is Alisa: Echo

[vestal dust]

oh

okay okay

[willow steppe]

Does anyone know?

[vague nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/punishing-gray-ravens-alisa-alisa-pgr-alisa-echo-pgr-gif-13608174575199824667

[willow steppe]

Can someone plz tell me?

Can a leveled up memory be resonated for others?

[vague nebula]

also don't forget to pull on the themed event. u can get the legs character thats on login screen

[vague nebula]

yes u can re reso all memories

[nova forum]

It can, including memories that had been HTed

[vague nebula]

[ashen edge]

the score

jk

[white oriole]

Just to be sure, what I'm gonna do is not picking anyone and just let it hit pity, then slowly build up for Solacetune SS3? Is it that good What about Nanaknight SS3 since I like her a lot?

[ashen edge]

uhhhh im not at home atm ill watch later

[nova forum]

Felao I need u to infiltrate kuro HQ and burn all the contract of DMC collab

[ashen edge]

dewit

[nova forum]

Get that sync plan cancelled pls

[distant wren]

thank dalao

[vestal dust]

:0 oh i definetly will

[vestal dust]

and where.

[keen meteor]

I dont think thats what everyone suggested

[vague nebula]

solacetune ss3 enables u to play trueslash affix.
affix wz and ppc is a thing now in china.

[ashen edge]

#📀・video-share message while i have my record of my old score before i got 3.9m pretty sure rotation are similar

[vague nebula]

its in beginner missions. u need to complete 15 missions iirc

[pine slate]

Sola ss3 is more prio than nanaknight, by the time nanaknight is on standard the s rank selection will reset

[vestal dust]

oh im in the 2.1 if i finish that will i get it?

[pine slate]

Solacetune has highest priority ss3 rn

[white oriole]

So what's your suggestion?

[pine slate]

With pyroath and Ishmael behind

[vague nebula]

pull on the banner that has max 60 pity btw. there r two banners and be careful with that

[pine slate]

Ur 55 pity so idk, personally I'd risk and go till 59 but u do u

[vestal dust]

uhm

[vague nebula]

go to beginner missions and send a screenshot

[white oriole]

Oh I will probably build up enough even if I hit pity so I will just not pick anyone now and not waste the free pulls and the selector

[vestal dust]

erm k

[vague nebula]

after reset. i am thinking of getting ishmael.

[keen meteor]

I suggest u not hit pity on the standard blue ticket banner and wait until hanying which will be soon with the sped up schedule and in the mean time wish on the themed banner to get Qu

[raw swift]

wsp

[vestal dust]

idk how to go there so here

[vague nebula]

not this one

[vestal dust]

WHEEREEE

[vague nebula]

go to lobby

[vestal dust]

okay now what

[vague nebula]

and see there should be one in middle of lobby

[vestal dust]

where..

[white oriole]

Oh you mean I skip the 4 free pulls? Well I'm fine with skipping it so Maybe I will just pick the other pulls first and maybe Kuro give 15k Blue Card

[vague nebula]

oh they changed it a bit. check guide and goal.

[vestal dust]

kk

[keen meteor]

Oh the free pulls from the event thingy I guess u can go up to 59/60 and save the pity still

[vague nebula]

[willow steppe]

build shukra

[vale raft]

Qu: Shukra <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:attacker:1285839106240417803><:ice_element:1290613933106925638>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set
This is the non-Harmony build. If you're planning to eventually get Harmony for Shukra, it is recommended to just get 2pc Chen Jiyuan instead of Darwin right away

Memories

4x Ji Bo'an
2x Darwin

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

None

[vague nebula]

should use this channel #📨・bot-info

[white oriole]

Understood So I play daily to guarantee Qu and not pick anyone in the pity banner

[keen meteor]

I might be wrong but idk if you’ll be able to get enough blue tickets for another 60 pulls by the time hanying comes in standard banner so that why im suggesting to save the pity but i might be wrong

[vestal dust]

this?

[vague nebula]

yes

[distant wren]

holy hell the dmg optimization

[keen meteor]

Yessir

[vestal dust]

i have to finish all of those?

[distant wren]

i'll try again on sunday after i fix my resos i guess

[vague nebula]

nah u r right on this one

[willow steppe]

Even if i swap a hypertuned memory will it still remain hypertuned?

[ashen edge]

ye pretty much when u use qte correctly

[willow steppe]

Can anyone confirm?

[vague nebula]

look thats a free s rank character and at the end theres also a free weapon selector.
basic banner tickets for another s rank u can guarantee too. so yes.

[ashen edge]

lot of sht qte usage in the clip

[vestal dust]

bruh alright then

[distant wren]

bricked resos rn lmao

[vague nebula]

it stays hypertuned.

[ashen edge]

matter of time, a good run with good orb and good qte could get 3.7 easily

[distant wren]

i hope i can get that

[vague nebula]

btw i'd say ask here before u select your s rank rate up in base banner and also the weapon too

[distant wren]

just being able to kill w17 might already be pretty hard

[vestal dust]

Oh okay

[vague nebula]

[distant wren]

i follow wz rot pretty rigidly lmao
very bad at adapting on the fly

[dapper skiff]

I should basic weave less

[rose yew]

qu cub provides more benefit for qu than her ss0

[dusky quarry]

Qub

[dapper skiff]

Smh miku

[zenith thorn]

did u get kale sig btw yet

[stiff night]

Is the gacha event in Bridget patch recommended? It's only 12.5k BC yeah? Seems worth it.

[zenith thorn]

if it doesn't guarantee you the newer characters,then no

[ashen edge]

ye thing gate me is double bear at w14 15 or 15 16 i forgot 💀

[stiff night]

It's only up to Capriccio

[zenith thorn]

that's sh*t

[ashen edge]

i have to do 2 rot max dmg ult

[zenith thorn]

don't even bother

12.5k for nothingburge4

[mighty tusk]

empy is on the chopping block

and capri is replaced

yea not worth it

[stiff night]

Oh ok

[opaque ridge]

capri replaced?

[glass bay]

Why does qu have the best ost

[stiff night]

Should I leap garnet or save for Empy

[ripe stag]

It's just Hikari

[ripe stag]

Yes in CN

[short coyote]

With who? Ishmael?

[glass bay]

It's hikari ++

[stiff night]

Does Teddy replace Rozen?

[mighty tusk]

lilith

[short coyote]

Ohhhhh. Forgot we were getting her

That’s cool though. And we get her for free

[mighty tusk]

we still have no idea if ss-ss3 lilith is main dps over ss lamia though

[ripe stag]

Lilith

[ripe stag]

I don't think

Maybe a dual dps team

Another dual dps team ?

Era of dual dps

[mighty tusk]

apparently, ss lilith with sig and cub can do 36 sec on hell primal projection with a-rank 21 and lux

[ripe stag]

GOD WHAT

WAIT LUX ?

[vague nebula]

[mighty tusk]

yea, same as nanaknight with cradle

[ripe stag]

BRUH WHAT THE FCK

It wasn't even Capri powercreep then

Lamia powercreep

[mighty tusk]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Coxme8EFP?buvid=Y84083834A5F22AE4C119154CB09C283D392&is_story_h5=false&mid=tCL8YxfeFHa23HFRWFdpkH8FTQ%2FSZMtL1rElX6M3iMo%3D&plat_id=116&share_from=ugc&share_medium=iphone&share_plat=ios&share_session_id=02F5374F-3F41-43EC-AC52-D33FADAF30DA&share_source=COPY&share_tag=s_i&spmid=united.player-video-detail.0.0&timestamp=1728738672&unique_k=RYkyNpM&up_id=67550285
similar yea

[vague nebula]

[rose yew]

the end of attacker class

[vague nebula]

hail lilith

[vast crystal]

Let's be honest it died a long time ago

[vague nebula]

btw have u guys seen lilith sfx skin

[mighty tusk]

what sfx skin?

[vague nebula]

I am just coping

[dapper skiff]

[mighty tusk]

if lilith is popular, she will get an sfx skin

[raw swift]

That exists?

[distant wren]

sfx skin in beta fr fr

[vague nebula]

no it doesn't. I just made it up

[vague nebula]

[ripe stag]

Guys
I wanna replace my Glory with Changyu

[raw swift]

[ripe stag]

[vague nebula]

can't touch me if i touch u before btw

[raw swift]

[vague nebula]

[raw swift]

[rocky wedge]

ahhh, I guess normal since I dont think about that much xD

[vague nebula]

[raw swift]

2 alts that I haven't played in the same server

• both are bricked

[vague nebula]

huge

[dapper skiff]

2/3 mission
"Claimable"

[brittle scarab]

what is bare minimum investment to beat all of Norman

[ripe stag]

Go offline for a month and come back so that I can use you are returnee

[dapper skiff]

I swear kuro

[vague nebula]

[dapper skiff]

What is that even means

[vague nebula]

[raw swift]

Count down for EOS?

[dapper skiff]

This one is funny

8 warzone clear already progressed

But 6 is barely moving

[vague nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/banging-head-against-wall-cracked-facewall-banging-head-on-wall-stick-man-gif-26257471

[rocky wedge]

i manage my account well i guess, I don't pull for gacha coatings, uniframes, uniframe weapons, A rank weapons - i skip all that nonsense xd I have also been playing for 2+ years - skipped Karen Scire as well which helped me invest into more recent teams from that point onwards. I complete all the events and permanent modes (not always tho, I have skipped probably a month+ worth of BC on this acc)

[vague nebula]

wtf is this

[rocky wedge]

i did also get very lucky in wata and qu patch which probably helped a lot too

[dapper skiff]

Kuro

Kuro doing their speciality

[vague nebula]

[mighty tusk]

gacha skins......

[raw swift]

smoking them special zaza

[vague nebula]

when we will get norbald compensation? never

[distant wren]

looks like kuro's getting lazy again, recent sfx skins in jp didn't have redubbed outro voice lines

[rocky wedge]

2 cups of purple just to warm up

[raw swift]

[still moat]

not wrong

capri has been dead since ishmael

[mighty tusk]

sss ishmael you mean?

[rocky wedge]

who

[vague nebula]

[opaque ridge]

oh boy, v2 lilith incoming

[still moat]

dark actually get better scores than other element in onslaught

[vague nebula]

[raw swift]

she has been touched before.....

[mighty tusk]

compared to what team?

[vague nebula]

u know who touched her? it was commandant. when she was in pavo frame. do affection story. she literally marries u
her words not mine btw

[still moat]

ice and ion few weeks ago

[raw swift]

nah, it was me

[vague nebula]

[mighty tusk]

oh? you mean dark with lilith?

[still moat]

dark with ishmael

[mighty tusk]

crapi fr

[next bane]

Hey there! I need some help with the Kowloong's Greatest Merchant minigame. Is it pretty straightforward for the higher difficulties?

[nocturne niche]

login get back in time login again

[raw swift]

mb, her legs looked shiny. I just had to

[velvet agate]

You are my hero (deragatory)

[vague nebula]

well she has had that since we met her. it gets shinier every time we meet. u can see the difference

[raw swift]

[rocky wedge]

🐳

[raw swift]

new frame when

[rocky wedge]

which ice rot did u end up sticking with

[pine slate]

[vague nebula]

tomorrow

[pine slate]

Who me?

[rocky wedge]

ye

[stark magnet]

had to what

[raw swift]

shiniest leg frame known to man

[rocky wedge]

there is a guy with R2 qu in EU who has 3.4 mil

[next bane]

So far I completed the normal and intermediate ones but unsure if it gets harder or if there's just a straight forward path

[still moat]

i cant cook with qu this week

s5 no sign

[vague nebula]

fr

[keen meteor]

S Qu is cancer to play

[kindred bobcat]

That ss0?

[rocky wedge]

ja

just brain dead sit on stairs guys

[pine slate]

My rot is prolly kinda slow

I sent vid

Definitely some fk ups, wasn't smooth all around but I don't wanna mald further

I'm using ss squid as well, idk how much of a difference cub vs squid is

[rocky wedge]

i can understand that

[opaque ridge]

squid user

wheres peacock

[rocky wedge]

🐙

[turbid bridge]

Not really, very straightforward. Just focus on one type of goods to sell and pick all related buffs, try to complete city missions quickly. There’s also side stories but not a must to complete

[rocky wedge]

touch me with dem tentacles

[still moat]

76 more days....hold it

[raw swift]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-cat-2-suspicious-cat-the-cat-looks-suspiciously-cat-sits-in-front-of-food-the-ginger-cat-is-watching-gif-14890167989997543813

[brittle scarab]

is ss qu that much better?

[near storm]

whats the standard lvl on raising Cub?

is maxing their lvl a good idea?

[rocky wedge]

yes way better

[rocky wedge]

doesnt matter much really, main thing is leveling their important skills

nice einsteina still uncensored in global - and u mf think u are shafted

[brittle scarab]

damn I wish I had, I still beat all of norman with no dark team and s qu somehow

[near storm]

so their 2 passive and their active skill?

[raw swift]

globlul still shafted

[rocky wedge]

the core skill and elemental dmg for base S rank cubs

the A rank ones - kinda depends

[near storm]

their active skill not worth raising?

[stark magnet]

born to a, forced to ss

[raw swift]

born to s+ forced to ss

[rocky wedge]

no, since u wont use it - the dmg it does is very small compared to the buffs the other skills can provide the construct that equips it

like this for qu for example is much better then having the active skill dmg

active skill u can level lastly

[near storm]

but active skill different slot right?

[rocky wedge]

i usually level it, just last - some leave it lvl 1

[near storm]

or you meant material wise

[rocky wedge]

sorry thought u were refering to this one xd but ye either way can leave the main lvl 1

[stark magnet]

sss cubs when

[near storm]

oh okay

[rocky wedge]

but i would level it if u have the extra skill points after levelling the other 2 important skills

[near storm]

is there any cons that needs their CUB to perform properly?

[rocky wedge]

it is constant chip dmg with how many orbs our chars ping now, so not the worst idea

[rocky wedge]

🥹

[zealous goblet]

Yayyy all done with the stronghold levels (thanks Kuro for making it a bit easier)

[rocky wedge]

wata, luna, hanying, wanshi, lamia

[stark magnet]

will the stronghold be made with x3 reward next patch

[rocky wedge]

ig u could include alpha

[stark magnet]

i kinda doubt it

[near storm]

oo okay thanks

[still moat]

why would it be

its one time reward

[stark magnet]

fine time to get my ass up and do stronghold, im lazy asf

[opaque ridge]

@woven haven v2

[rocky wedge]

💃

[brittle scarab]

is it worth to get qu's cub or save the black cards for future chars

[turbid bridge]

V3

[rocky wedge]

if u care about the best scores possible in ppc and warzone, yes - unless u have SS rainbow (ayla's cub) then u could skip it if u could only S qu's cub. If u dont care about scores or are f2p and dont have much BC then u could skip it if u need to.

the future character's cubs are more impactful for them then qu's cub is for her

[opaque ridge]

if u care about the best scores possible in ppc and warzone, yes - unless u have SS rainbow (ayla's cub) then u could skip it if u could only S qu's cub. If u dont care about scores or are f2p and dont have much BC then u could skip it if u need to.
the future character's cubs are more impactful for them then qu's cub is for her

[brittle scarab]

okay thanks👍, I think I'll have my BC

[solar pier]

U guys know that anime that has a girl that has the same hair as Selena

[jaunty beacon]

Maou 2999. Or smt like that

Wait that's liv

[mighty tusk]

you refering to unnamed memory?

[jaunty beacon]

"how i reincarnated as a trash bin" is the right one

[deft apex]

Unnamed memory

[woven haven]

that's v3 gimme a sec

[deft apex]

Uwoogh v3

[dapper skiff]

Well that escalated quickly

[woven haven]

AHAHAHAHA

[mighty tusk]

awaiting nerfs/buffs

[dapper skiff]

[deft apex]

Awaiting capri nerf

[mighty tusk]

is she gonna be another mandatory sss?

[deft apex]

Ofc

3s + sig mandatory

[woven haven]

entire wording change and rework of skills

[vague nebula]

[mighty tusk]

for the worse? or....

[deft apex]

Rework of skills? Like animations?

[woven haven]

skill effects

[distant wren]

[woven haven]

its mostly wording shifts but like

[raw swift]

Just Nanami.

[woven haven]

generally they finally got rid of the stupid wording

for the ult enhancement stacks

（仅文案描述调整，实际效果不变）

main changes

when lilith uses red orb/hold attack and it triggers matrix, gain 1 yellow orb -> when lilith triggers matrix, gain 1 yellow orb while in ult mode, gain 1 blue orb outside

added gather for many of her skills

some energy nerfs again

[mighty tusk]

energy nerfs....

[woven haven]

ult dmg buffed at higher rank

[mighty tusk]

did she need cottie beforehand?

[woven haven]

healing field post ult 8 -> 12s but lower healing per tick

Ishmael HP modified

more vfx changes

[solar pier]

Thanku

[woven haven]

optimised model and face

[turbid bridge]

Okay that’s good to know they’re thinking about increasing off-field healing until 12s for future amps I guess

[woven haven]

changed camera angles

for her outro

her red 1/2 and yellows can now be interrupted

and the energy they give is frontloaded now

[deft apex]

Actually good change

Her outro camera angle made her look very weird

Def not her good angle

[wanton cedar]

Is this the best place to spend serum?

[jaunty beacon]

Yes

[visual topaz]

yes

[wanton cedar]

Thanks

[wanton cedar]

I have a lot of serum vials, should i use them all on myriad wares?
How long does it take to generate 1 serum?

[opaque ridge]

her outro now

[distant wren]

animation touch ups for lilith v3 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV14MiBYUEp3/?vd_source=f2f32422f8c340281caec9edf5557f61

ult1 has a card domain now

[slender spoke]

uhm what's harmonize? I do not remember this terminology from back when i still played the game

[pine slate]

Can add 2p memory to a 6* weapon

[opaque ridge]

if u have a signature weapon, u can harmonize it to give +2 memory slots for that unit

[wanton cedar]

I have a lot of serum vials, should i use them all on myriad wares?
How long does it take to generate 1 serum?
Anyone knows?

[pine slate]

6 min

[keen meteor]

Yeah

[slender spoke]

owh ok. this i rmb. jsut couldn't recall the terminology. thks

for the warzone shop does the resonance mat discount reset?

not sure at what point do i stop buying it before it resets as well

[short coyote]

Yes, please use the serums on myriad wares. And there’s also a short guide on what to do for the events in the pinned section!

[raw swift]

yes

[sonic bloom]

Is it a bad idea to switch in 21 on cw team she ss?

[slender spoke]

ok thks. so ig stop at discount 70%? or would this depend on how much of the currency i would have

[zenith thorn]

equal investments thorough the team?

[true dragon]

Does this mean that they didn't finish to reach 83?

[zenith thorn]

it just mean they reached lvl 80,you can manually graduate them if you will

[raw swift]

I usually stop when it's like at 2,000 points

[sonic bloom]

My cw is ss with her sig and Vera is ss

[dapper skiff]

Not really bad idea

It just depends on how you actually use it

[raw swift]

and then again yes depends on how much I have too

[true dragon]

but they are not my student anymore like they left alr

[dapper skiff]

Some people just been spamming solo cw too much they can't understand playing swap even with the right invest

[wispy robin]

51 pulls early ez +9 i guess

[dapper skiff]

[sonic bloom]

Because I’m been thinking of using this to get her sig

[dapper skiff]

I'd keep that tbh

Feral sig

Not really that critical rn imo

[sonic bloom]

Ok

[slender spoke]

aight. thks man

[sonic bloom]

Who should I save it for

[dim viper]

Absolutely

[raw swift]

np!

[raw swift]

New S rank units

[dapper skiff]

Keeping it for last resort after pulling multiple sig yet only had a bad luck is always a good idea

Global will still face 20% rate off on weapon banner no matter what

[zenith thorn]

ok but kale sig

[sonic bloom]

True I buy monthly pass anyway but I’ll save it

[dapper skiff]

So preparing for the worse always is always good to do especially when u lack funds

[whole pond]

how do people have 8 memory effects equipped? is it the order its in?

[dapper skiff]

Weapon Harmony

Requires 6★ weapon

[whole pond]

oh

so if i select a harmoy of a 2 set piece

[zenith thorn]

kuro greedy company

[whole pond]

it turns into a 4 set?

[dapper skiff]

When u equipped the 2pc yes

That's the point of harmony

2 more additional memory slot to benefit from

[keen meteor]

Congrats
I got an early too but i went only 9 pulls in since wata lol

[whole pond]

and i always see it a specific order as well

is it important what order its in?

[dapper skiff]

Order is probably depends on which unit it is

[sonic bloom]

I have a question when I do the fast ult then full ult for qu why can’t I proc the matrix again on my own

[keen meteor]

Qu her weapon and cub everything in 15 pulls

[zenith thorn]

like tetris formation?

[dapper skiff]

Also personal preference on how you would build your character

[sonic bloom]

👺

[zenith thorn]

that's purely minmazing and cosmetic

[zenith thorn]

phat