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No excuse
YOU CAN CHECK
No
@ripe stag Can mods see edit history of messages
Blu role accusing me of being wrong

Have u guys compelted the last mode of norman
Tbh you are lucky that you didn't post misinfo on that one 
Blue are fraud
Yep, one tapped 
Yes
Pretty easy
One tap difficulty
I used ice for dark zone

It was more annoying than usual but not very challenging
Do u guys use trial characters or own characters
Own
Own
Trial is a different story 
Before fixing Qukra rot
Maybe thats y i cant
After fixing Qukra rot
A follow up on this, is it a good time to start pgr now?
I mean copypaste ing the post and have it pinned without confirming is a bit 
How tf did u score 600K more than me
Yes as f2p
No as spender
the qu ost is so peak
What's your invest
222 101 100
TF
Is it possible to beat it with 2 own characters and 1 trial characters?
213 101 100 here
HOW
Btw i dont have any good support members
I SPENT 2 HOURS MALDING
Mald harder 
Filthy sss glory havers
ye
Both in hero?
Shoudl i use a better support character?
Region diff
We both in SEA
Which owned character were you planning on using?
If my support character is good will my damage increase?
I'm in hero
Recently demoted from legend
We're in the same guild actually
Same
The Gooner guild???
Haxer
what sup are you using?
Wait why ezra playing sea despite him living in na
I ALSO LIVE IN NA LMAO
Cuz NA is dead
My rozen with 1.4k bp

A lot of people play SEA and live in NA 
Then leave
Yea like Xeno
Where Asia account
You literally online during NA time i thought you live in na
Explore the 44 characters of 【〆】翠Aurelius from the Asia-Pacific server of Punishing: Gray Raven.

It's just 11 pm for me bruh
rozen is good, but...
I stay only for nearly 19 hours so yea
oh exalao
WAIT
SO YOU ARE AURELIUS ?!
Wdym exalt is f2p
YOU BLOODY
And no malders
YOU REALIZED THAT JUST NOW
Too f2p for me

Idk how to play gb
YOU MADE ME DEMOTE TO HERO DUMMY
After the school system
There are at least 5 fcking times I tagged u w SS of us being in same bracket saying hi
I DEMOTED TOO
Back then exalt had 1m gb requirement when I was in it
Wdym?
I mean tbf they malded gb and ge and retired after playing too much ge
NAH
I HATE YOU
Yea
Who was that gb guy u guys used to have who did 1m trial every week
I forgot his name
Can someone explain to me what is the job of support in norman?
AND HERE I THOUGHT YOU ARE JUST SOME RANDOM GPH GUY
It’s been over a year
Support is for borrowing from others
No i mean the norman character i use as support character
Idk i only knew shinoa but he is eu
Oh our annonne
you need that leap skill, just for the great support
Oh annonne
No i dont use rozen
I just use her as support member
Oh that one is for people to borrow
Additional note for Siege Trial
- U dont need to pierce wave 10 with Plume
But remember, you have to pierce wave 11/12. one from it is enough - When you swap to Solaeter for the first time, just enter to Ult mode immediately. no need to CP first. After Ult, activate Core Passive, dodge for entering matrix while Solaeter, and tap 3orbs before swa...
Can i borrow for people in norman?
This frame was made for her ultima
Yes
1 only
From where i dont see the option
Now I hate how long glory qte is
Changyu supremacy
Shut it
Born to fight, forced to qte
Ye whel
I can't exactly say where cuz I'm not in-game rn to show it

oh, i see.
Was it muin?
Gameplay by Seijuro
Changed the siege run
Timestamps:
0:00 - 3:50 Low Viral
3:51 - 7:17 Siege
7:18 - 11:00 Dead Zone
11:01 Scores
BGM:
Black Out -(cover.)Es
信仰と存在 (feat. 否)
Chimera/KOMAINU.(Cover)
夜撫でるメノウ・Agate Caressing the Night / Ayase (self cover)
#punishinggrayraven #战双帕弥什 #パニグレ #pgr
Oh tht guy
Did that channel even update anymore 💀
No
LMAOO
Well ig only og players know that Exaltair had a YT channel
Where Zeratu still malded ppc
The last time i visited was when aitsuki still playing
"honorable member"
You see the "support" option?
He isn't ss ppc anymore tho 😟
Funnily enough most ppl retired after cw when cw was the most "hyped" unit before
its all biancas wtf
Lmao I should’ve fully quit too ngl
I basically did with this break
Playing ppc once every 3-4 weeks
Makes u Hella washed
I went hiatus during hyperreal patch and gone from discord for a while
Btw will the max power increase in norman as days go by
Until noctis too

Gotta relearn the game
I got a lot to catchup to if I even wanna recommit to this game
Like I’m telling u ppc brainrot is a real thing
I’ve played ppc for all these new charas after Balter but I genuinely don’t know how they actually work
Not to mention onslaught gonna be a thing too
Born to stories, forced to ppc
Guys will the max power in ppc increase?
Like if u tell me what the number gauge on CW’s core is I genuinely don’t know
I only know the ppc rotations
Battery?
u mean norman?
Sorry in norman

Or like what the core gauge on lamia’s core even means
Sry i misppelled
Same.
ey same
norman got revamped so i have no clue on the battery situation
i actually dont know why i didnt want to play pgr anymore
Do u know anyone that does
Cuz the game is hella trash
Read changelog in gray raven?
yet we still play it
Cuz it used to be good
Wait will battery increase then?
Pretty sure they did, just that not detailed
No HP
Im debating swapping 3s stigmata from Charl/Cottie to Patton / Cottie but not sure I want to spend the red usbs.. has anyone done it? How does it feel?
Get one shot by Norman boss
Bro there are at least 4 instances I have recalled where I @'d u of a photo of us being the same bracket smh
slam stacks
tho ofc u never use it at s+ PPC so understandable you don't know 

it's like a multiplier for the thunder fall damage or in caveman english, big number equals big boom boom
Also YOU WOULD HAVE DEMOTED ANYWAYS
Just one shot em back 
I’ve barely seen the CW slam in my entire PGR career
ye what I said
s+ too obese kills everything with ult
Same I let my sister to play my acc for now so i'm also trash with current unit mechanic unless i relearned from the beginning again 
HT DV Garnet is required of course Kappa. Lag at end is on my part.
0:00 Run
0:39 Gear
thanks for posting my cw slingshot vid

I honestly find theorycrafting in wuwa is more fun than pgr for now
Damn that means i will miss 200 freaking bc💀
I think this is the first time I’ve done CW slam in my PGR career
I’m not even joking
LMAOO
Hope you do the same with nanaknight 
Assuming I’m still playing this game at nanaknight
Where
Right?? They posted it but not actually detailed 
spreadsheets

Haloha,may I know which memory set at the top or at the bottom,for shukra set.
Ji Bo'an & Chen Jiyuan
I need to update for Qu
cjy bottom
Ik there’s new lamia and Luna kills
I have 25 coke bottle to harmo shukra too
I literally cannot improve my Qu score 💀
coke bottle
433 2 Harmo 2 Cottie 2 Darwin
Can do :
7s Madorea Low stages test - knight
8s Phantom low Stages test - knight
11s Hell Machi
8s Elite Lilith
8s Hell Lamia
8s Black Shark Chaos
11s Knight Luna
9s Trailblazer Hell
9s Fu Shen Chaos
7s Chaos Moon Shitter
9s Lilith Knight
9s Phantom Chaos
9s Black Shark Hell
9s Voodoo Hell

Thanks Patton at the top and davinci at the bottom then. Bye2
With SSS???
sss+
be glad u dont need to upd sss+ sheet
Which ones are the 4p Zuwen
I mean the high stage kills are 4 Zuwen no?
wtf sss+ zuwen
zaza-yuan
can somebody explain the methodes to trigger the "Into the Fray" matrix(holding dodge)
LMAO
THERES NO WATY
I THOUGHT U MEANT THE ZUWEN WAS HARMO AHAHAh
hold Dodge after a dodge
https://youtu.be/U-Wg088rlwc?si=OCWJ1uXGt9KmuiyI&t=33
this move right here
#pgr #pgr_cn #wutheringwaves #명조 #퍼니그레 #퍼니싱 #퍼니싱그레이레이븐 #Qu #shukra
00:25 ss cycle
01:23 sss cycle
sometimes i trigger it after one ping+dodge
@hidden forum where’s the ppc Qu input guide
bro i was about to build 4 cjy 2 cottie 2 dw on qukra yesterday
what the fck
how are u guys more bricked than me
May or may not be able to update my own sheet after a year 
I dotn even have qu
Swap > 3 ping > hold dodge > ult > 3 ping > ult
Is it just me or is Qu really short
i'll check it thx
do you play e7 @fresh hill
Hey guys
What's wanshi and changwho memo in ice weather?
No need specific color? I just heard red is gap closer but that’s it
red is enough
click orbs
Need cottie right
any color works if u dont need gap close
for quick ult ye
Hold dodge during matrix
I’m cooked
blue looks slow for 3p+p
I’ll see what I can do
This doesn't trigger into the Frey but that's the only special Dodge she has
chair gameplay
WZ
Hypnos: 4DV 2Guin
Changyu: 222 (Eins Gloria Lantern/CJY if no Lantern)
PPC
Hypnos: 222 (Guin Gloria Samantha)
Changyu: 4DV 2Eins
@lethal sun might be able to sp delay on the last ult
💀
i think i wasnt clear enough, my real quetion is how do trigger matrix without dodge
3 ping, 1 ping
Why the memo switch btw?
why is there a differnet between main dps set and ppc set for qu
Wdym sp delay it, like just 3p ult at same time?
that's one way, also found that after swap pinging one orb+dodge also activate the matrix which made me think there are more ways
Thought that’s the standard

Swap is a 3ping
idk if u can even utilize sp delay on her
Ppc always have niche sets
oh
Most chars use a 3ping on swap in
Ppc set is specifically used for fast kill
how noticable is this explosion proc in wz
ppc set is used to clear stages in ppc 1s faster than using the main dps set
The PPC build does more damage and usually would be optimal
The purpose behind the WZ build then is because since Qukra can kill stuff pretty quickly, you want to be able to shred and debuff multiple waves
dang, i never thought abt this, thanks for this info
ah
Wz is about the grind game and orb economy
In ppc u just dump everything at once
Basically
also i have to start saving for the next s rank right
im 20/30 away on the weapon banenr but i only got like 600 rn

do i try getting the weapon or no
ill dump everything on the throne
Ya know what why not
yay
U already commited to it so just get it
whos next tho who am i supposed to
What if he offrated
the next s rank char?
Are u F2P, if so u might have to skip
But if spender, everyone
Tho I really would adivse against spending rn
im f2p
teddy, luna and someone i forgor
am i not supposed to pull every new guy every patch??
bridget
there will be 3 s ranks next patch
you are, and you'll be able to even as f2p
just don't miss a single day/event what have you after sync starts 
None atm except the launch code
Yea u are, but u cant afford weapons
Especially not with synchro
ohh okey, thanks
im kms
well
synchro shouldn't effect whether f2p's can afford weapons
You get a little bit more with syncro
Dam qu shukra looks sh it without her sig
qu really needs her weapon
1 S rank and 2 A ranks bucko not 3 S ranks
don't think so, it should be roughly the same as before for f2ps
meaning, still no rights but at least they're not getting ripped off 
that’s the patch after that
does anyone else need their signature as much as qu does
more or less everyone iirc
always had been since glory

because her weapon while its not needed is such a massive dps increase its just pretty much as bad without the sig
lilith sig is garbage but its free so
In this case tho u already committed to it so no point in backing out now
yuep thars true
Mostly attackers
i was actually 23 pity i didnt vheck lol
Probably Oblivion
For the next 6 or so patches attacker weapons are the best
Hope they give free sig as compensation for something otherwise my qu shukra ain’t soloing nothing
Others are not as game changing but you still 1000% need em cuz big QoL
Free sig is compensation for you spending 500 RC
sigh
Just get the weapon selector from recharge 
your compensation will be 3x payments 
they are not
hjow am i supposed to catch up and get the sigs as f2p then
Weapon selector ?
lmao if you think attacker sigs are the best
Hoped for some more
Who will replace rigor
my bad og
hanying
attacker sigs are only more likely to lock orbs behind them
sure you need them for rotation but the sig weapon’s relevance is entirely reliant on the attacker being good
hanying who also pushes stigmata to subdps
Tank/Amp weapons can have team buffs and orbs/mechanics locked behind them btw
and they have better harmonisation and weapon resonance options
Can’t lie I might be cooked
you probably are
No way I’m getting all them characters
Aether scaring newbies again
Can’t lie he might be cooked
In other words Attacker weapons are very short term value until they get slapped to subdps or benched
getting all the chars is more important though
okay maybe I have dumb expectations but how on earth did this guy do it as a f2p? this game has warped me on how my teams can be built like this https://youtu.be/hMuVGeao-Lg?si=pCyiqVvtDFeihyuG
Highest F2P Punishing: Gray Raven Warzone score you will probably see on youtube C:
Weather: Ayla Kaleido | Zone: Single Enemies
Weapon Resonance: Qu - 1, Ayla - 2
This is the highest score I've gotten on this account Oo
I did get 311w before with Fire after I got SS3 Wata, but it could of been a bit higher so I didn't upload it & slacked lol....
Tank/Amp weapons are far more versatile for longer staying power
Ok so let's skip Luna oblivion weapon
he is f2p so
I didn’t say skip
Do what
You gotta skip some
its the fact that you claiming attacker weapons are the best is a joke
Skip a heartbeat
how on earth did he get cub, weapon, and an extra s resonance
SS is easy as f2p
he’s tw server not glb
weapon is not too hard
SS is easy
wep and cub is some luck
Tw has longer days patch
I’m soo desperate I’m thinking of scrapping rigor 6 star weapon with also kamuis if I get hangyun
Better server + a bit of luck and good planning
More time to save resources and such
Be very lucky
For this qu shukra weapon
skip a kidney then
I think I'm blind
Where the F is lantern/CJY
they gave out cw sig for free cuz its one of the most meh sigs in the game qol wise
it's like, 3x wasted resos 
dang bruh, bc I am confused on how I am supposed to save so much BC for one character and their weapon
What will I do with em 😵💫
I've been talking to you for like a week now and I think you should add "I have no intention to help f2p players" on your bio or something
Tf when
Resonance
guys how do i delete pgr from my pc i dont gave enough storage
reso fodder if they will never be used again
its the way the game works
From the launcher
No it's the way your whale brain works
how
you can get every character for free but sigs require monthly to consistently get
press the windows button, right click pgr, press delete, in the control panel go delete it
That’s why signature weapons exist
to make you spend
how exactly do you get it

no he's pretty much right
game's playable ofc but nowadays not having sigs and even cubs gimps your characters to kingdom come 
by not skipping your weeklies
you can get some weapons and people are constantly asking for priority and you're constantly saying get all which is obviously irrelevant to the question
Aether just give me some bc, that can fix any issues
It working for me unfortunately
Think about it
Somehow $15 are gone from my account every month towards PGR
By playing the game, doing everything
ahem i mean ive been doing that for 2 months
And I think it’s somehow gonna increase to $75 per month
Either say "all are equally important so get whatever you like" or say which ones are the most crucial to gameplay
but at most i only get uhh an extra 10 pull and some
Get all is not an answer
after 15k
Imma be real if people get everything they could. I think if you can't change your view on that you should stay silent on those questions
Use Lantern optimally
But if u don't have it use Chen Jiyuan
@hidden forum what invest does qu outscore dark rn in neutral
because everyone is more or less kneecapped in some way without sig or cub
yes you have to choose what to sacrifice but rarely does the game make the choice easy
I already stated your blanket statement of “attacker sigs are the best” is false because its been proven wrong time and time again
Because units like Hanying and Ishmael have shred and buffs locked behind signature wep directly
units like Nanami/Wanshi have shred locked behind harmo
Weapons like Wata’s and Ishmael completely change their rotation on par with an attacker’s wep on top of their support capabilities
idk havent tried

surely its equal invest
Have you played qu with a 5* weapon?

i’ve tried s 5*
ss 6*
sss 6*
He never said Qu didn't need her sig
5* qu is actually better than sig
what do you want
one does not simply play qu without sig
5* doesn't actually work. it's not a damage issue. The game isn't fun atp
One thing is attacker's sigs having less value
the other is that some units feel horrible without them
no im not trolling
and btw i never to skip attacker weapons i’m saying its not right to tell people just to get the attacker sigs
i swear theres a boss where hitlag with sig makes 5* faster
I'm saying attacker sigs are more important because they let you play the game
they arent
but attackers aren’t even main dps half the time in this game
if you're saying tank sigs are better you're locking people into 5* qu gameplay
i think we should i also split sigs into 2 categories to make this easier
some sigs are there to give high buff/support
some sigs are there to help with orb hungry/make the gameplay more fun
Have you read Hanying and Ishamel's sigs bro
Are u basing this off of only qu's sig alone?

not always, and the same applies to some tank weapons too
all the more so when they're the actual main dpses of their teams
Frankly 5* Qu gameplay is a bit more tolerable after Wanshi lmao
Wtf am i reading
guys let him cook
hi xeno
How does wanshi sig change the gameplay
why tf am I xeno
can u help me im scared why is everyoen fighting after i asked to pull on qus sig..
Also Qu sig only affects ice team for herself
Ishmael sig affects every team she’s viable in
you play swap bruh
Rot for Qu 5* pls 
so qu rot isnt a soft lock
you are xeno
You still play swap you do less damage
rotation is 3p into kiwi 
its the same as 6* just with no matrix ping and 1 extra 3p per core
Without sigs we've established that f2p don't compete
@lean pulsar If u are forced to choose what sigs to get I would recommend Qu as an option
But fact of the matter is it doesn't matter what u get, if you skip any sig in any way u are hard capped
if you genuinely think swap with no sig qu is less damage than solo qu 6*
I dont think youre in the right channel
or the right server
Attackers sigs actually let you play the damn game
crimson abyss sig is a big game changer 
I want to point out that i would actually tell someone to skip qu sig for Ishmael sig
ishmael signature is unbeatable by far in its application
you're entire argument is saying sigs on atks are more important when they aren't, there an exemple for almsot every element AND AFFIX where you're wrong
Hi guys, havent played PGR for 1-2 months did i miss something?

not really besides the arguably most important tank in the game
pre lucia attacker sigs are all locked to one team’s relevance
tank and amp sigs can be relevant for multiple teams and still have the same qol bonus as attacker sigs
I think you're talking damage for a non-competing demographic and I'm just talking qol
Karen was a year ago
Differing opinions I guess
its the same for qol wtf are u on abt
Have you actually tried wata 5* vs 6* its equally as wide as gap as qu 5* and 6*
You spelled glory wrong
Are you saying that nanami sig changes nanami gameplay as much as qu or Luna sig?
Qu sig saves her about 4 orbs per rotation
Wata/Ishmael sig generates 6 orbs per rotation
people be hard capping, it's changyu 
500k on warzone with qu, I don’t know if it’s great tbh
which one?
it changes MULTIPLE teams’ strengths
Ion, Lightning and Burn teams all require Nanami
Qu is still only locked to Ice
Yes it does?
You have to develop entire new team rotations if u skip their sigs cuz of the damage and QoL u miss
Missing qu sig makes you wanna end yourself
Im asking again
Are u basing this off of qu's sig alone
Glowho
If ur talking qol only
alisa - harmo for dvc
rose - def shred on qte
glory - def shred on qte
empy - half of her gaueg is fully filled on swap
mech - def shred on qte
feral - extra 3p for rot makes u less orb hungry and actualyl do 2ult rot
wata - orbs on swap in so 2rot isnt horrible
U can play balter, cw without their sigs
Even lamia
No you don’t
DLT for solo nanami changes her rotation greatly
And that needs sig
are you seriously only basing it off the bloody wep passive and not considering harmo or reso
Alisa sig is the biggest example of deceptively strong
hanying - more stack generation and gauge fill for faster rot
bruh have you actually tried it? you have to manually trigger matrix by dodge to be able to use 2stack hold ult it's borderline unplayable
nanami - doubles gauge generation
sure i agree, but I guarantee you'll run into that exact same problem several times in the next few months, arguably even worse for certain characters 
Tbh even Alisa sig descrpition itself is big imo
I mean he asked for the rotation
telling him that is simple
i never said 5* qu was easy
which tank m8
Epitaph
you guys need to really see the damn context
Luna needing like 12 orbs without sig per rot
or hold atk like CW for like 5 secs 
Surely this guy isnt basing this entire argument on him not having qu's sig
he is

he’s just reading off GR wiki
I have qu sig
and coming to his own conclusions
his argument only exists for luna and qu
he doesn’t know anything about affix teams
Well ye luna and qu are pretty bad without sigs
and how tank/amps are multi team
his counter point where he was talking qol and not dmg is also not entirely accurate either
But so are pretty much everyone
These all sig talks are too much for f2p like me
guys you can't argue/discuss abt sigs if you dont split them into 2, each player has his preference some prefer smooth rotation some prefer high scores some wants both and it really depends on the teams and how they are built
F2p with sss wata
I don't think f2p players with 1 sigs every 6 months is caring much about affix in hero warzone
He thinks Qu sig is the end all of sig qol when wata sig is right there
ohh Watanabe... i will get him from Arrival banner then:
My astral is sss+ 

40k wtf
is Changwho 4 dv 2 eins for wz?
his argument is atk sigs are more important than any others
he probably doesn’t even understand the passive
Ye wata doesnt have enough orbs to do rotation without his sig
You are screwed if you skip any sig tbh
Also if a character's sig benefits multiple teams it's objectively better than a sig that only benefits a chaarcter of one team
not his pref is correct or smooth qol> dmg
kaleido/wanshi 4dv2guin + samantha if harmo
chrome/changyu 2eins2gloria2lantern
no lantern, run 2dv
Order in the chat 
Rizzlers in ohi
tbh the only real answer is focus on the sigs of the current banner chars first so you get more use out of them because everyone almost equally bricked without sigs anyway
Just r3 cw :clueless:
for wz right? 
telling people attacker sigs are most important for qol when cw sig is right there staring in all its uselessness

I’m actually surprised r3 cw isnt as bad as I though it was
I can do 9s for siren from elite to knight
can’t even take this newbie seriously anymore he’s pretending as if he’s played CN
and chaos/hell is same rot
I play 5* wata just fine tbh. I tried qu without sig (I have it now) and it actually is not playable. At least wata completes his rotation when matrix cool down comes back up qu you needs to wait for an enemy attack for ages and it's still not enough
i think something is greatly wrong with your wata rotation if you are calling it fine
I did say next 6 patches. Although it's less for global now
you genuinely
it's PLAYABLE in content
have not actually tried optimised wata
Ok ur comparing a tank with manual matrix to a dps that has THE WORST RELIANCE on orbs
oh no playable here we go
You’re compaing the standard to the bottom of the bar
guys stop this isnt you
important in what way score? fast rotation ? high damage ? i dont think it can be answered in one sentence .. at least for me
Tanks are the dps half the time lmao
wtf have i started
If ur standards of being playable is a 5* wata, then qu 5* belongs in playable as well
He didnt state anything specific, so anything goes by me
it's funny am I right? 

do i need to play shukra as solo carry in the ice team? i have ayla
yes
So I have a friend asking me if he can skip Qukra rn and pull her from Anni banner
Yeah, dumb idea but i don't wanna argue with him cuz he literally skipped Epitaph on the sole basis that Nanamech exists.
Wata shukra trust
How big of a dumb move is it ?
I mean why not from standard
If u have sig, yes
If u have 5*, solo is so copiously low on orbs that I would just recommend u do swap rotation
we have a reset next anniv anyways no? Or next next anniv
i got sig with dlt
jambu where are u?
He's saving it for SS3 Pyroath
Don't ask me
anniv feels really bad to pull on
Oh yea she can solo then
don’t blame yourself you just came here while a self proclaimed wiki reader is here
Cuz its always a loss
o7
yeah you're right in that case xD serves him right LOL
what should be aylas memory set then?
4dv2guin
I mean for his actual specific cases he’s def right
For wz, 4DV 2guin
In PPC, 2/2/2
I dont want 5* qu or luna
Its just that those 2 happen to be that sig reliant cuz of their trash kit design
But u definitely dont want 5* wata or hanying or ishmael
im running davinci on changyu
Was original luna that bad with orbs too
they made oblivion kit reliant on laurel passive
In WZ he uses 2/2/2
should i go for 2/2/2 on wz as well then?
esp ishmael
Have you actually tried both? Wata makes up for orbs quite simply by attacking. Qu needs to split the atom and then wait for an enemy to attack
2Eins 2Gloria 2Lantern
after like 5 rots it got bad without dlt, but she was fine with 5*
not really since the matrix ping passive isn't tied to her sig unlike with oblivion
Huh???
Dude what the fk
You can just basic attack on qu as well before doing core
Does he know ss0 qu uses basics in her rotation
To get the fast ULT with the hold dodge you need to trigger the matrix
that’s like the biggest double standard i’ve seen of all time
Which needs you to dodge
both changyu and ayla will be supporting so theres not really a need to upgrade there memories right?
Not automatic without sig
Does he know optimal qu rot is 3-7 basics
You wanna basic attack with wata ?
Woah
Anyways
just basic attack between rotations and eventually the enemy will attack
Does he know
its really not that hard
I have a qu with sig. I watched the video I am playing her like that
optimal 5* qu rot is that x100 
the way you play qu and wata are like extremely wrong
if you think wata is fine with basic attacking for orbs
What this homie is saying is not wrong imo
but qu isn’t
snazz 
the problem is he’s double standarding this to make the case that attacker sigs > all other sigs from now till CN
snazzlao 
RIP Qukra solo rot - 2024...it was never true for that dude
no he’s absolutely correct for qu and luna
Some chars are playable with 5 stars despite it being very cope - you can play the character at least like lamia.
Some are literally not functional without sig
Qu is a pretty good example xD
I said next 6 months and meant the CN schedule maybe should've said 3 months instead because acceleration
yeah but he’s fine basic attacking for 20s on wata for orbs but not fine with basic attacking on qu to bait matrix or gen orbs????
Like Qukra, Hanying, Oblivion, Ishmael, Nanaknight ?
Ik Qu is one but who else is unplayable without sig
Wata 5* needs like 2 orbs
void luna feels pretty garbage as well
Luna
Luna imo
they are functional but with downside (less fun / orb problems / surviving issues in endgame modes)
32 orb rot luna
it's pretty pointless trying to argue about 5* rots in this chat as pretty much no one here ever tried to play with 5* in the first place 
Oh no 
Ye that’s a game understanding issue - but I understand what he is trying to say
Very apparent too lol
no sig luna can't even do her full rot with orbs only unless she has at least 12
babel levels of time for those orbs
Essentially dont think anyone is denying that Qu or Oblivion or any attackers sig is not necessary
But it's misleading to say attacker QoL > other units QoL
i miss babel
or 10 with matrix ping
Well we can call it barely functional 🙈
same
please don’t try to validate him because the blanket statement he’s making is literally going to cause misinfo for others
babel is like that one ex that actually treated you right but you were to inexperienced to keep the relationship

Im gonna say it
So... Luna needs Sig + SS for human rights? 
yes
Everyone's unplayable until s+ r3 minimum
And DLT

yeah and it really depend on the dps char
idr what ss does but sig is for sure
With maxed cub ofc
he thinks all attacker sig qol is bare minimum but tank/amp sig qol is optional and copeable without

Doubles gg go next
even the dmg only wep passives have harmo
how's Hanying without sig btw?
I just remember someone mentioned she would need cottie and it would be giga cope, but not much else
and reso to consider
It literally does though
She has slower gauge generation iirc
very cope
kneecaps her dmg
kneecaps her def shred
Wanshi sig looks meh tbh, still need for balanced swap i think?
I can imagine this being true
oh yeah 20% shred on sig
no dlt = no orbs to do double rotation
For ftp reso is like you get 2 a year

how to get lantern memory set?
AHEM norman
2-3
6 rots of norman is one usb
cub for wanshi is more important if you’re fine with qu never being able to take zuwen off
umm best qu ice team?
You get more than 12 in a year surely
You can't, it was a limited set
Just use 2DV/CJY for changyi
What about Wanshi Sig? Is it mandatory like his cub?
more or less
Right now, Qukra Kaleido Glory
That's 4
Go back in time 
cjy?
Ok I was 1 off
Chen Jiyuan
the ice set
wdym you got 2 free reso just today 🐴
his sig is the one you can skip if you’re tight on funds
but the rest around him is a big fat no
next year should have a lot of reso shards due to synchro tho
ah ok ty
sig solacetune
ATK increases by 10%. Piercing Strike effect applied by Hanying: Solacetune increases by 20%. DMG increase effect from consecutive casts of Azure Allure can stack up to 3 times. Triggering Phoenix Down additionally grants 50 points of Veiled Edge.
436
249
Now take into account 50 shards for every guild expedition
wep has trueslash point gen its over
U get 5
Nah I recycled so maybe I can get Luna weapon too 😭
oof i dont like kaleido tho lol
So, only Wanshi Sig is skippable got it
Qu does solo rotation anyways so it doesn't metter
and there’s the reveal of the dumb ways to brick
you would think you can skip Nana's since it's just dmg
Until you know she's 94% of lightning's dps 
Does lucia phyroth have any restrictions like qu being unplayable without sig or she good even at low invest
And heisen harmo
and dlt for solo
99.5%
Nah. I'd rather have a 2 reso qu weapon and sigless Luna. That sounds so good
Still needs sig
I'm sure that will be so fun
who said anything about 2 reso qu wep
so should i use this for a kaleido, glory, or nanami star?
you only put 1 on qu the second is worthless
Oh my god mechuseless
put the 2nd on wata or luna
Nanami is useless
Me not being able to afford any other signature because I lost pity twice and now I'm barely pulling chars
What are the 3 best teams before Qu? I'm trying to do the last stage in Stronghold, first 2 teams has this and the last team against Ishmael or the boss in Lee story I think
Everyone needs sig and I understand it , but qu is unplayable kinda without it , same for lucia or she still good with 5 star , is what I’m asking
really?
Yes
F2p or spender
F2p
Start spending 
Thank you for your help. Will you sponsor?
Spend this patch and not the next 16
Skip and wait for Uncle
would you then recommend i use it for glory or kaleido?oh ok
lucia can only do 1 ult without sig and its extremely cope and slow
but it is consistent with no rng
but it also means not being able to use half her kit because you lack orbs
Ask raid shadow legends
oh ok
neither save it for epitaph next patch if you don’t have him
so what team would you recommend till then?
Isn't wata already available this patch
A rank wanshi and changyu
changyu is better than chrome if chrome has no sig
That was the advice my sensei gave me to stop asking stupid questions 
its 2 patches delay no?
ok
if I didn't burn those 2 arms I'd have no way to get any other weapon anyways so what's the point of resonance
what memory slot should i use?
orb resonance
for qu
Jp got him on standard banner on qu patch
I think reso is still better tho
Haven't checked for glb
I thought they sped it up for qu
Just as an exception
orb resonance is literally base rights for a lot of characters
it's just for my case recycle was the better option
Lemme check on my alt
what memories for qu?
esp qu herself
I can get it from norman
you need 3 to buy 1 weap tho should have waited till u get 3rd one
CW weapon

Eventually right?
I offrated 3 times on balter's weapon and i didnt scrap any of those weapons
In fact, those offrates were the ones that actually boosted my account to do much better
Fei
I see u typing
best memories for qu or is recommended fine?
Stop 
Imagine offrating 3 times while being f2p

Or I'll just burn the veritas bow I picked up for Alissa Harmony if I'm that hard pressed
Don't think I'll do that
The 3 offrates r part of my f2p plan
nope
No Uncle yet
Wow jp got the preferential treatment
Globlul shafted as always 
I think Norman gives enough for the 2 weapons I can afford annually
wdym
dont say that, cn’s gonna get another free 10pull
I think JP was the only server that happened
jp got wata in the selector on qu
Wata was available on std banner pool when qu patch was up
No one else did
Wait, why?
If u can only afford 2 weapons annually i think theres smth wrong wih the way u play the game
oh ye i remember getting his sig from selector on qu patch
Jp is weird, they have alisa on lamia, wata on qu, but now no luna on bridget
wheres the harmonization priority list thingy
Yeah losing 2 off rates is wrong
Probably some bug or idk but TW we never got that treatment
Pins unless someone unpinned it
U still got 2 weapons regardless
oh its a sheet now instead of list icic
2 free reso
value "treatment" for the price of having lower sig and cub rates 

With the way they say they'll handle the sync
I think f2ps are actually gaining even more bc than rn
Cuz it assumes all patches are 6 weeks
Nice
While we're currently getting 5 week patches average
Just be CC and ask kuro sponsor you
my only hope out of this sync is that they will fix the rates on jp to match the cn
I won't reso the arms I think 
The TW rates seem broken xD global I’m never lucky and I spend wtf
We need the CCs to tell kuro to change the sync plan
bro I never really knew what people meant by Qu getting staggered so often
holy crap it happens every run
Skill issue bro, just dodge smh

Tectone or f*ry?
I thought kuro blacklisted tectone
I guess I'm ready for Luna for now ?
Im talking actual good CCs
Kuro didn't but hoyo did I guess
is this good, this is the recommended
He was still there shiling for wuwa
Only if you are playing no sig qu shukra
Which is already a bad thing
i have sig tho
@ atsushi
Then it's 4 Ji Bo'an 2 Chen + harmo Chen
Tectone's content rn is just asmongold from wish
ok ty
The 1000 sub warzone ones?
Who tectone
You
imagine the world if atsu became an official kuro cc
I would rather not be existent
Tbh 1000 subs is 2% of the global playerbase that's insane numbers
He probably would of been now if he was still playing Dx
Atsu never even got the cc role
Imagine if your sheet was accurate
Ye But CC program is different now
its accurate after i swipe
Snazz how does it feel to have around 3% of all global pgr players subscribed to your channel?

I’ve seen people get added from no where now it’s pretty cool
Losing to br*ku
Swipe first check the sheet later
i update && swipe
Tho some people have only made one PGR video which I find weird but maybe there is a greater plan for this sync xd
Gimme sync test server
Ive seen ppl who joined today and get the cc role the day after
Ye quite wild but it’s a sign the game is Alive : D
Guys this guy has so many subscribers. He is the goat right?
And growing somehow
So for Luna ppc
Wata uses 4 shakes for test and Elite right ?
Empy 4 dv 2 eins and Alisa 4 guin 2 Gloria
I feel like what the cc role does rn is just locking u from changing ur name color
This homie does have a lot of miss info
My role
And he jumps to conclusions too fast on CN content
Doesn't let me change my colour based on pfp
Why did my goat not upload anything since a month ago 😭😭😭

Like Lucia SS0 using Shakespeare is very incorrect Dx
Yeah I know he used to be hi3 YouTuber
Wait
She can't right ?
But these dudes probably not caring about low rank information anyway
@ruby minnow
Energy issue
?
Atsu lost to this
Wait who's Kirai
She can but it’s stupid
He was bad when he was making hi3 vids and he still is I guess
Rc sheet maker
Since she can make nice use of cottie
mia
Yea though so
Ezra fraud
@pine slate help
need to update qu still
How you even be mods and not knowing your own staff 💀
What ?
Not knowing helpers
You think i remember people who went MIA ?
Does it matter in PPC too?
Kirai is a fossil
ancient
Yes
Wata use 4 shakes for all stages
Hello grandpa
Gen1 blue nick
ALL ?

Ya
Like test to hell ?
He is my role model 
pre blue nick 
And what rot ?
He can't 3p 3 blaze ult
Or use fel's sheet








