📨・meta-help

[idle hedge]

I'll use it but kinda mid

[civic atlas]

🛐

[subtle zinc]

we really need a liv skin omg

how does every unit have so many non gacha skins but her

[idle hedge]

Liv has enough skins spread across her frames already

[foggy ridge]

BRI ISH ENCHANCEMENT

[subtle zinc]

I meant just Empy

[idle hedge]

She has 2 gacha skins

On Empy

[quartz dove]

How do i get this pfp

[subtle zinc]

yeah I didnt play when they were out lol

[meager iris]

she has most gacha skins

[idle hedge]

Too bad

It reruns prob

[idle hedge]

30k rc

[meager iris]

pay money for it

[idle hedge]

But u get a frame too so

[quartz dove]

Still anti f2p simulator

[meager iris]

oh wait you were talking about the actual whales pfp

yeah 30k rc

[carmine reef]

u guys r gettin trolled he already has it

[meager iris]

prove it?

[shadow holly]

qu shukra is coming out in like 4 days or smth so save

or if you mean specifically for the standard banner, you can get lamia since you already have wata

for a ranks, you just want to have xxi (you have her), rozen, changyu, wanshi, sophia

[buoyant hornet]

There's some free A rank selectors you can get from certain missions so probably wait until you decide what to get from those first

[buoyant hornet]

This but also add chrome arclight and liv lux to that

[shadow holly]

oh right they somehow have cw

[meager iris]

are there ppc new bosses, or new cr in qu patch?

[shadow holly]

new cr
new bosses on luna

[meager iris]

oh

nice

[shadow holly]

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah lol wonder where that's from

[shadow holly]

inb4 yet another returner from cw patch

[meager iris]

we can still bully Machiavelli

[foggy ridge]

waiting for feral rerun

[buoyant hornet]

Lol maybe but hey that's a good thing

[shadow holly]

im getting more and more value from infinitas glory

[meager iris]

[buoyant hornet]

Cw is weak relative to newer units but she's still the current cornerstone of lightning so having her as a new player is good (as long as it doesn't sacrifice higher priority units)

[foggy ridge]

wait a damn second infinitas glory?

[meager iris]

do you need it for ppc qu?

[buoyant hornet]

Yes

[meager iris]

if that is the case I may do it before resonating qu

becaue garnet fake ht saved me

[buoyant hornet]

That's probably for less rng only I don't think it's worth wasting infintas on a character that's bad and will get replaced in 3 patches

[meager iris]

it's not I'm giving him ht of course

[buoyant hornet]

Unless you just have a crap ton of excess ht mats

[meager iris]

I mean for fake ht

[buoyant hornet]

Wdym fake ht?

[meager iris]

I can resonate him with qu memories then give it to her

[buoyant hornet]

I wait is that a thing

[meager iris]

yea

[buoyant hornet]

I never thought of it lmao

[meager iris]

you unlock it for free

[subtle zinc]

yea you can take any HT memories and re resononate them to get it unlocked and place in sequence pact

[buoyant hornet]

Wait this opened up some funny ideas in my head

If only I had known this before 😭

[meager iris]

do it before you resonate new character in mind

[foggy ridge]

if you re resonate an already ht reso, do you lose the ht or keep it?

[subtle zinc]

yeah dont ruin perfect resonances

[buoyant hornet]

Bro I wish I knew before getting specific resos on most characters 😭

[meager iris]

just resonate other characters, ht, then take it back to the new character and give her resonances

[subtle zinc]

but ifthey are just rng resonances youare only paying 12 memories cost to get them infinitas

[buoyant hornet]

Oh well I'll just do that with Qu's set

[shadow holly]

idk but when i did it i partly did it for qu machi runs
cuz its not like cow has any gapclose

[shadow holly]

[quartz dove]

New cr

[buoyant hornet]

I wanna infinitas empy for ppc purposes

[meager iris]

well, I doubt that you even need cow for machi

just use wanshi

[shadow holly]

with sss qu can probably use wanshi yeah

mine will be ss3 at best tho

[buoyant hornet]

Who else would I wanna infinitas hmmm

[meager iris]

🧱

[foggy ridge]

im probably gonna keep her ss

[subtle zinc]

echo and garnet are nice

[meager iris]

yeah

[subtle zinc]

less resets lol

[foggy ridge]

i know 25% dmg increase is nice but not worth me money just yet

[subtle zinc]

also for wZ echo is nice

[buoyant hornet]

I naturally got infinitas on echo so garnet it is

For lingya insta ping ppc runs

[subtle zinc]

yups

[buoyant hornet]

It always pissed me off when I had to do it without infinitas

Honestly I was considering just normally hypertuning empy's set but considering it's gonna change after her leap

I think fake infinitas might be better

Does leap empy guarantee ult energy every rot without cottie?

[subtle zinc]

I dont think i would use her pings just because of how Epi can swap infinitas to blue for ppc

[buoyant hornet]

Because I don't have lee so she's my main subdps so if she needs cottie she'll keep it

[subtle zinc]

but for wz swap ins yea that would be comfy

[buoyant hornet]

True but for lingya

[woven haven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854873062230327358/1311296357289689108/IMG_9988.gif

[buoyant hornet]

Wata is less reliant on lingya but some copium boss runs benefit from the extra orb

[little laurel]

Chibi Ishmael is so cute

[shadow holly]

infinitas doesnt do all that much for wz considering it only impacts your initial orbs tbh

[subtle zinc]

Idk ever fast kill with wata I've seen they ult in 5 seconds so is there even time for lingya

[shadow holly]

its nice but like
imo main reason to do infinitas with fake ht is just ppc utilization to reduce rng

[buoyant hornet]

It does help proc rose qte on wave 1 if needed + gap close

[meager iris]

exactly

like garnet, unless you want to reset 5600 times to get blue orb

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah but I meant NON fast kills i.e trailblazer etc

Although Qu should handle tb instead when she's out right?

P sure it's impossible to get an ice boss and tb in the same rotation?

[shadow holly]

yeah like holy -fuck i did like 4 fake ht's on alisa patch and that was so worth it
garnet mech glory and feral i think
at least garnet and mech are so insanely huge
infinitas basic human rights

[meager iris]

I always forget them and suffer

but last patch I did garnet and omg it was best decision

[shadow holly]

[buoyant hornet]

I wish I knew about fake ht before I rolled for capri's class passives

[subtle zinc]

the current set you use doesnt change tho

[meager iris]

I hope we get double infinitas so I don't have to suffer with lamia red orb again

[ripe stag]

What

Double Infinitas? What

[subtle zinc]

if you have x6 class on her set the fake ht resonances are just to awaken her then you can put it on someone else or the original owner

[ripe stag]

Is

[buoyant hornet]

So yeah does SS empy leap guarantee ult every rotation without cottie or?

[ripe stag]

That

[meager iris]

childhood dreams

[carmine reef]

p sure you need S+ for that lol

[shadow holly]

with leap sss should ult every rot i think
ss probably every 2 rots

[woven haven]

SS leap is guaranteed

but you need DLT still iirc

[buoyant hornet]

Sadge guess my empy will be running cottie until lucia patch then

[shadow holly]

oh even with ss every rot

[carmine reef]

SS empy is gonna ult every rot?

[woven haven]

yes

[carmine reef]

r u sure about taht

[meager iris]

emp s+ from vouchers worth it?

[woven haven]

unless you have SSS Wata you have time

[carmine reef]

i don't think anyone is worth S+ with vouchers lol

[buoyant hornet]

What's worse, choosing dlt over glorious spear vs. choosing cottie over 2guin?

[woven haven]

its not about energy its about whether Wata bitchslaps empy mid rotation

[shadow holly]

ah yeah wow wonderful
need sss empy for human rights

[meager iris]

rosetta

[buoyant hornet]

Mine sure will

[pine slate]

Does leap empy need dlt tho

[buoyant hornet]

No hyperlee so her full dmg is needed

She's my subdps lol

[woven haven]

if you wanna ult every rot

[pine slate]

I don't

[woven haven]

ofc cuz you're a solo player with no rights

[pine slate]

Would rather just have 2 amp resos to buff hyper and wata

Not gonna sacrifice an amp reso for dlt empy

[shadow holly]

is that for ss or for sss too

[buoyant hornet]

That's the thing is 2guin better or is glorious spear better

Because if dlt is the only way to guarantee her ults every rot I'll have to sacrifice one of them

[remote pier]

SSS can ult every rot easily no?

[woven haven]

Swap in Chaos core -> matrix -> matrix ping -> core -> manual input -> 6ping -> core -> ult -> 9 pings -> ult
you only refund 9 pings and you eat 6 every rot

SSS doesn't help because you still consume more orbs than SS post leap

[shadow holly]

aeugh

maybe i just cope without glorious spear

[woven haven]

[SSS] added effect: After pinging the 3rd set of orbs during [Empyreal Prayer], if there are any remaining Signal Orbs of the same color as the 3rd set of orbs pinged, consume up to 3 Signal Orbs of the same color and increase the Extra DMG Bonus of [Empyreal Prayer] by 5% / 10% / 15% based on the number of orbs consumed.

so yeah rip SSS extra orbs you lose them anyways

[buoyant hornet]

Is there a bot command for resos

[shadow holly]

nop

[buoyant hornet]

mem guin

[vale raft]

Guinevere ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

Heals for 10% more. Increases the Elemental DMG and Resistances of the healing target by 10% for 5s. Has a cooldown of 8 seconds.

4pc Set Bonus

A healing drone will be charged when healing is performed. When fully charged, the next time you performing healing will consume all charged energy to summon the healing drone. It will follow an ally with the lowest HP percentage, healing allies in a 5m radius for 2% maximum HP per second and increasing their Elemental DMG by 15% for 5s. 12s cooldown.

ATK

132

CRIT

64

DEF

223

HP

1528

[woven haven]

After casting any type of [Oath] with maximum stacks of amplification, obtain 24 Energy

[buoyant hornet]

Hmm GS has 8s duration vs guin 5s, but 10s cd vs 8s on guin

[woven haven]

it doubles your energy gained per core

[buoyant hornet]

I'd say GS is better than guin no?

I think I'll likely stick to cottie but I'll test both when I have the leap

[woven haven]

YOU DON'T NEED IT

[subtle zinc]

If you are using elizabeth and cottie you can just test if you need DLT after the leap

[woven haven]

i already said

[buoyant hornet]

Empy runs 4dv 4guin in pyrooath/epi comps right?

[woven haven]

empy doesn't ever use cottie

[woven haven]

4dv2guin2eins

[tribal charm]

Does uncle change mem from 4 cottie to 4 shake in wz after Qu patch guys? my uncle is ss3

[woven haven]

4guin in mob wz

[quartz dove]

My empy wz set use cottie back when she was ss0

[pine slate]

No

[buoyant hornet]

Wait so she needs dlt or no?

[woven haven]

4sig4cottie 6red6ult - MAIN DPS set, when wata does the most dmg
4sig4shakespeare 6red6class - Void Luna / Fire Lucia SUBDPS SET, needs 1 Weapon Resonance

[pine slate]

Only for Luna and post pyroath

[buoyant hornet]

My reasoning for keeping cottie is to use glorious spear instead of dlt

Or is neither of them needed?

[pine slate]

Bro is cooking

Isn't the entire point of leap to let go of cottie?

[tribal charm]

ok ty, just want to clarify cuz my friend told me change it

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah idk the exact details that's why I'm asking 😭😭

[woven haven]

my advice
go duct tape your friend

[woven haven]

but you are still orb negative even with cottie

cottie doesn't solve the orb issue

[tribal charm]

[buoyant hornet]

So I need dlt either way even with leap ic ic

Especially since I'll need her dmg to be consistent

So ig I'll have to go dlt + guin then

Btw question, does dlt timer count down when the character is off field?

[woven haven]

it counts down even in timestop

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah I found out that part and completely changed my perspective on why it's good lmao

But I wasn't sure about the holder needing to be on field

So yeah ig my empy will just run dlt then

[woven haven]

it counts everyone

when dlt timer ticks everyone holding dlt gets 3 orbs

[buoyant hornet]

Ic makes sense now

Good to know tbh because I was confused lol

[barren plank]

Lilith will need SSS too I assume?

[buoyant hornet]

ult empy

[vale raft]

Liv: Empyrea

Skill - Signature/Ultimate (Lv. 18)

Signature - Sea of Sangharama - Signature Move
Trigger: 80 Energy + Tap Signature

When there is at least 80 energy, Liv: Empyrea can cast Signature - Sea of Sangharama to consume all energy and enter Empyreal State with her M.I.N.D. plunged into a corrupted data space, gaining full Prayer and 6 random Signal Orbs (with a guaranteed set of 3-Ping orbs) while triggering Time Lag Calculation.

1/2

[turbid bridge]

Isn’t your Empyrea holding Eins if you don’t have Hyperskip

[buoyant hornet]

Doesn't need it to rotate but it's recommended ig

[woven haven]

i mean without it her dmg sucks ass

[barren plank]

Ur Empyrea always is holding eins unless for some ppc kill

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah but I have harmo, so I was asking whether the remaining 2pc should be cottie vs guin

[turbid bridge]

Yea that’s why I’m confused why they’re using Guin

[turbid bridge]

I mean just use your 3rd member as amp to hold Guin + DV

[barren plank]

Guin
She’s not gonna have much use out her ult so no point for Cottie

[buoyant hornet]

It's either 4eli/2cottie/2eins or 4eli/2gui/2eins that's what I meant lol

[barren plank]

U dont use elizabeth on her anymore

[opaque ridge]

eli

[woven haven]

you use DV

[turbid bridge]

She don’t have Hyperskip, Empyrea sup dps

[buoyant hornet]

Hmmm I've been using pulse/mech for cd filling but ykw that sounds like an idea I should try

[woven haven]

ok wait

[buoyant hornet]

Hmm actually nvm once empy gets leap I'll NEED mech for cd filling rip

[opaque ridge]

[late ridge]

Lmao is it me or is wz even more mald than before probably me since I didn't harmo wata yet

[woven haven]

just run pulse leap
4dv2eins

4shakes4guin empy

that will output better dmg

[barren plank]

4shakes Empyrea

[opaque ridge]

are u mad?

[woven haven]

if he has no hyper

[turbid bridge]

Time to cook cope zaza

[restive grove]

https://tenor.com/view/persona-3-persona-femc-persona-kotone-persona-minako-femc-gif-9523001624499032417

[woven haven]

that's the best you can do with the current set

not like mech is reliable dmg or off field shred

[opaque ridge]

if u dont have wata, u dont have a fire team

[buoyant hornet]

Hmmm not 4shakes 4elizabeth?

[opaque ridge]

simple as that

[woven haven]

he has wata

[barren plank]

Why tf her eyelids twitching like that

[woven haven]

liz isn't worth it

[woven haven]

he has wata but no hyper

[buoyant hornet]

I have wata, don't have hyperlee

[opaque ridge]

if he has wata, then empy is 4dv2guin

[fringe grove]

nice try, I have sss+ brs

[woven haven]

altera are u off your meds today

[opaque ridge]

are u?

[restive grove]

blender physics

[opaque ridge]

ur telling someone to go 4shake on empy

[thorn creek]

Shush you all need meds

[buoyant hornet]

True but I'm thinking she'll be needed considering empy's rot will be sped up significantly

[woven haven]

4shakes4guin empy + 4dv2eins pulse

[thorn creek]

I am the only sane man here

[barren plank]

No hyper, do you expect mech to sub dps

[woven haven]

this way empy can benefit off dv buff herself

[opaque ridge]

what subdps is empy doing?

[buoyant hornet]

But either way even with mech I'd just run 4dv 2gloria or eins

[opaque ridge]

wata takes 100% field time

do u not know the diff in damage between those units

[buoyant hornet]

Say that to his orb count 💀

[woven haven]

he wants to field empy its not my problem what dps that outputs

[barren plank]

And what do tou do when u run out of orbs

[opaque ridge]

putting 4shake on a unit that does fuckall damage doesnt make them do more damage

[woven haven]

i'm just doing the best with what he wants

[opaque ridge]

the best is to suggest 100% wata field time

[buoyant hornet]

Trust me solo wata is absolutely worse than rotating with empy lol I tried

[restive grove]

just spam ba

[opaque ridge]

suggest 4shake on empy is a complete waste of mats

[buoyant hornet]

Even with dlt it's disgusting 😭

[opaque ridge]

learn to play then

[barren plank]

Coming from the S+ whel lol ok

[woven haven]

obv putting wata solo is better but like if he wants to play swap its better to have empy hold shakes in the end

[buoyant hornet]

I mean my scores were consistently better with switching so 🤷

[opaque ridge]

suit urself, already told u whats best

[buoyant hornet]

Is wata SS0 capable of soloing?

[opaque ridge]

you've made up ur mind

[buoyant hornet]

That's the real question lol

[barren plank]

Ig but cope af

[woven haven]

like yeah its cope
but what else can we do about it altera lmao
at least i stopped him putting cottie on empy

[buoyant hornet]

I mean I can give it another shot we'll see if I can make it work

[opaque ridge]

empy is 4dv2guin now

[pine slate]

u guys just havent seen the dalao fury playing swap with empy and pulse

[opaque ridge]

theres no going around it, if u build anything else on it now, its a complete waste of mats

[restive grove]

wat about ember and sophia

[pine slate]

[buoyant hornet]

💀💀💀💀

[restive grove]

[woven haven]

https://imgur.com/a57l0nb

[buoyant hornet]

Lmao

[barren plank]

Sophia in 2024 is straight to jail

[thorn creek]

Dafuk y’all on?

[pine slate]

im on u

[woven haven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/708309182981603379/1297528358791286935/QQ20240905103642.gif

[thorn creek]

[buoyant hornet]

I think I'll give solo wata another attempt but if it ends up being a mald party then I'll just settle for swap until lucia

Already get pretty good scores for my team tbh so I'm not particularly lacking in that department

[pine slate]

its not a mald party, its a cope party

dont have hyper so cant rlly do much

[buoyant hornet]

One of my accs doesn't have wata cub OR ang gather cubs so add mald to the description

Today I malded so much on mob wz because of this

[woven haven]

SSS+ Lilith 12s onslaught tifa dark stage wow

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah patch acceleration saving my life rn lmao

[restive grove]

ask jambu to link wata solo in bili2

[buoyant hornet]

Bruh

Free unit lmao

[pine slate]

ive had times where one enemy is singled out even tho i have wata cub

[buoyant hornet]

On my cub acc it did happen sometimes but was rare

[turbid bridge]

Just go with whatever works better after testing, personally I get higher scores with SSS Epitaph and SS Empy sub-DPS but that’s because -3 swap CD, idk how it is for SS invest

[pine slate]

i think hyper is the only char that hits mostly the entire map

[buoyant hornet]

Meanwhile on non cub almost every run had that issue 💀

[barren plank]

Qu looks like she does too

But have to test myself

[buoyant hornet]

Honestly there's an obvious time waste because I don't have the -3 cd but it's way more consistent for wata's orb economy and dmg output

But leap empy will have a way faster rot so I'll HAVE to do a mech rot in between unless I find that solo wata is doable/bearable lol

[woven haven]

SS0 Lilith + A rank 21 + Lux 22s Radiant Marcher Hell

[buoyant hornet]

I love lilith already

Lamia could never

[woven haven]

SS0 Lilith + A rank 21 + Lux 22s Ishmael Hell 36s

[buoyant hornet]

Empy kinda does but not on her white fire core

Also the problem isn't just hitting the enemies it's applying eins shred etc etc

[barren plank]

Black oath has good gather so pure oath can hit

[buoyant hornet]

Dw leap gives her gather on pure oath too

[barren plank]

Oh nice

Also it makes it cancelable too iirc like w black oath

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah don't have to waste ~1-2s to transition to ult anymore

[barren plank]

Faster ult too

And orb rearrange

[buoyant hornet]

So basically the core dmg gets dealt during the timestop animation of her domain activation

[buoyant hornet]

Empy leap is a gift from heaven lmao

If we had THIS empy back when she was released she'd probably be competing with the older gen 2 attackers lmao

[lime locust]

What are the meta dps at the moment?

[woven haven]

Current in glb or cn

because there’s a very different list

[lime locust]

Global

[buoyant hornet]

Dark: Lamia
Physical: Bianca Stigmata
Ice: Qu Shukra coming in ~4 days
Fire: Watanabe Epitaph
Lightning: Lucia crimson weave

[lime locust]

Thanks

[woven haven]

Do note

Qu and Epitaph are by far the two strongest rn

[buoyant hornet]

Aside from ice they all have sub dps characters that enhance the team, but they can't all rotate until certain investment levels

[woven haven]

the rest of them are currently powercrept or about to on CN

[lime locust]

Alr thanks.

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah absolutely prioritize those 2

[woven haven]

Especially Epitaph

[buoyant hornet]

Especially with patch acceleration we'll get a new fire dps in a few patches that relies on epitaph to function well

[woven haven]

There’s only 5 element teams on glb but there’s 11 on CN

and epitaph will be relevant for a few more than just his own fire team

[buoyant hornet]

I keep forgetting about void lol

[slender aurora]

wata has been meta in 2 teams for longer than he hasnt

[woven haven]

he may be gone in void but lmao they designed lucia’s kit around him

[slender aurora]

fire/ice for like 1 patch w SSS wata, fire/void for luna-ish, and inbetween that there was qu/teddy for the 2 patches where he was meta in 1

[woven haven]

lucia’s dmg output drops tenfold without him esp at high ranks she really needs wata’s large bulging sss rank

[opaque ridge]

nuke qte

[woven haven]

more like

without swapping off she can’t even sustain her dawn state

no orbs no rights

[opaque ridge]

one trick pony

spam orb, use ult, out of gas

oh wait that sounds like lamia

[buoyant hornet]

That's one thing that didn't change since her ploom days

[opaque ridge]

they made her float like a raven

[buoyant hornet]

At least lamia generates orbs so with some workarounds she can sustain herself but I heard lucia just falls flat completely after her rotation is done lol

[buoyant hornet]

Watch vera powercreep pyrooath in 2 patches

[opaque ridge]

lucia does generate orbs but not when ur combo requires 9-12 orbs to sustain

[buoyant hornet]

We all know gray ravens doesn't get rights it's called Punishing: Cerberus

[opaque ridge]

noctis still waiting for his S rank debut

[woven haven]

Lucia generates 3 orbs every sword ult

[buoyant hornet]

They're cooking something crazy he's gonna outdps nanaknight

[opaque ridge]

dont forget, this is lucia with cottie

[woven haven]

the problem is fire lucia needs 12 reds to fill the core gauge every ult so she can’t sustain that level of orb pressure for long

[opaque ridge]

without cottie, shes near unfunctional for rotting

[woven haven]

its easier on ion lucia

[buoyant hornet]

Define sword ult because I have no idea what people call her different ult variants

[woven haven]

but fire lucia has nerfed gains

[opaque ridge]

ion makes me sad

[buoyant hornet]

So her rotation fundamentally differs between ion and fire?

[shadow holly]

the one where she flies in the air in a circle

[buoyant hornet]

Also does she actually need her other sig mem sig for ion or is that just a meme

[woven haven]

its an ion generalist set
she uses the 2pc for ion

because its probably the strongest raw dmg 2pc that isn't tied to a condition

[opaque ridge]

they're not too different, ion just has a really bad rotation if u get greedy

fire is static rot

[buoyant hornet]

What's the difference between held ult vs tap ult btw

[opaque ridge]

with enough practice, u can do lucia's fire rot blindfolded

[buoyant hornet]

Dmg, energy cost etc?

[opaque ridge]

holding is the fastest finisher

tap makes u float to do swordwave

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah I noticed the only decision making is whether to extend her sword wave spam slightly to finish off a dying wave etc

[opaque ridge]

if ur doing 2 rot, tap is ur finisher

[buoyant hornet]

Ohhhh so the sword wave is needed for her sun jump ult?

[opaque ridge]

swordwave = energy to jump ult

[buoyant hornet]

Ic ic so you do sword wave rot into quick rot

[opaque ridge]

no no

[shadow holly]

nono quick one is the hold ult

[opaque ridge]

swordwave is required after u tap ult

[buoyant hornet]

Oh

Ohhh I get it now

[shadow holly]

its basically like qu below 3s xd

first you do the orb efficient ult then the stronger one

[buoyant hornet]

Ic makes sense

[opaque ridge]

u can hold ult as soon as u have the energy when ur in float form

[buoyant hornet]

Ic so the slash ult is the one you do first then you sword wave then you do sun ult

Interesting interesting

[wet plover]

So i just finished No 21 story should i go directly to Alisa Story or should i do Noctis story first?

[opaque ridge]

sun ult should always be used last coz it drains almost all ur combo resource

when u hold ult to do the arc slash

u still have dimensional slash to regain energy

[buoyant hornet]

I've noticed in ion I see more than one hold ult every time they swap to pyro is that just to abuse timestop while ion is active or is it a higher investment thing?

Ion sounds stressful as hell tbh lmao

Gotta squeeze in damage perfectly before its duration runs out no room for error

[opaque ridge]

coz ur actively regaining orbs while ur in ion i think

[ripe stag]

I really hate Pyroath

[buoyant hornet]

Why 😭

[opaque ridge]

since lucia is the only one doing damage in ion, ur using everything in her kit to do damage while the gauge drains

[topaz quiver]

Do i save standard selector for SS3 wata or karen

[buoyant hornet]

So far only ion and trueslash are in wz right?

I'm guessing next character might be umbra enabler so they can add it to wz lol

[buoyant hornet]

That changes after lilith is out right?

Although I'm guessing lucia will still have to maximize her dmg anyway

[woven haven]

no its bc you need 12 reds to fill the core gauge in fire
but 6blue in ion

so you can spam ults infinitely more

[opaque ridge]

hmm well there u go

[woven haven]

no lmao

[buoyant hornet]

So her ion kit just functions differently in the first place lol

[buoyant hornet]

Lilith too weak?

[dapper skiff]

At this point it is depends

Depends whether your overall investment

Or how global scheduling is actually going down due to rushed patches

[buoyant hornet]

Karen will be available in a free selector on luna patch

[topaz quiver]

Understandable

[opaque ridge]

u should just stick to conventional element wz, affix is ass unless ur ss3+

[buoyant hornet]

Wata won't

[opaque ridge]

even at s+, its not fun

[shadow holly]

just an affix enabler

[topaz quiver]

Oh right

[shadow holly]

her ion numbers are just not good

simply designed to replace Karen role in ion

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah assuming I can even maintain hero 90% of the time with the amount of new characters we'll have to learn back to back, I'll probably just try to do affixes without stressing about score

[shadow holly]

which feels kinda sad when she's not even doing any significant ion damage

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah lol

[shadow holly]

but oh well new Karen frame soon trust

[opaque ridge]

nah bianca first

[woven haven]

swap in -> hold atk -> swap out moment

[ripe stag]

How does ion work exactly?
Enabler stacks and gets the stack and then the Executor comes on and the gauge starts to drain and every attack of the Executor does ion damage ?

[opaque ridge]

idk, ask rex

[shadow holly]

dw your Cath holder is still relevant

[opaque ridge]

i havent even played lilith yet

[ripe stag]

Not Lilith
I'm asking the general idea about how ion even works

[opaque ridge]

ill make u hold cath

[ripe stag]

Just how bad is Balter in TS bruh

[shadow holly]

wdym

[opaque ridge]

ion = ur on a timer, no red orb on daren = retry

[remote pier]

Qukra level of orb mald?

[shadow holly]

balter is ts main dps ezra
for now you should be more concerned about how bad she is in phys

single rot too fast double rot too slow
still have to field alisa

[ripe stag]

In Physical
Isn't she just Sub-DPS cath holder

[shadow holly]

even with SSS Hanying

[ripe stag]

BRUH

[shadow holly]

well yeah

[ripe stag]

So she does not sync up with Hanying at all

[ripe stag]

Let me guess
Alisa feels even more terrible after Hanying dropped cuz you can clearly see the insane damage difference between Hanying, Balter and Alisa

Now imagine Selena physical amp

[buoyant hornet]

I did notice balter did much more dmg in trueslash footage than hanying but I gaslight myself into believing the opposite lol

[buoyant hornet]

Tbh even if that's the case I'll still be happy about hanying being main dps because balter main dps heavily relies on rosetta qte to do literally any dmg

Which is cancer asf

[ripe stag]

I mean
Executor is supposed to deal higher damage than Enabler so yea

[buoyant hornet]

I didn't even know hanying was enabler I thought trueslash just enables itself 😭

info affix

[mighty tusk]

ag

[buoyant hornet]

What's the command lol

Ty

[mighty tusk]

at

[ripe stag]

WAIT WAIT

Daren's lightning res shred is in a field ?

As in fixed in ground ?!

[buoyant hornet]

Same field as her ss3 one lol

[woven haven]

you know maybe its best ezra can't read

[buoyant hornet]

I think

[woven haven]

because the amount of misinfo spewing the last few minutes has been deeply concerning

[distant wren]

@dapper skiff rate my swap https://youtu.be/6Y6IYuzbLjU

[ripe stag]

Oh good that it does follow the unit

[buoyant hornet]

leap daren

[vale raft]

Karenina: Scire

Skill - Leap

Edge of Perception

While in Anti-gravity Status or performing Comet Combos, hold Basic Attack to exit the current status and perform [Disintegration Strike], dealing 480% Dark DMG and recovering 88 Signature Energy. During this, gains Super Armor and 30% DMG Reduction.

• Performing [Disintegration Strike] while in Anti-gravity Status additionally grants 12 Signature Energy and 999 Kinetic Energy. In addition, every 3-Ping consumed in charging [Leap Attack] increases Base DMG of [Disintegration Strike] by 50%.

• While performing [Disintegration Strike] and subsequent [Signature-Starshatter Horizon], Scire is considered to be in Anti-gravity Status.

Level 9: When Ampere Accumulation of the party reaches the maximum value, [Disintegration Strike] will trigger the Electronic Blast state and activate the Electrodissociation Field that lasts for 14s.

• The Electrodissociation Field inflicts enemies inside with Turbulence Interference that reduces Lightning Resistance every 2s. Turbulence Interference reduces Lightning Resistance by 15% for 2s.

• While in the Electronic Blast state, performing [Signature-Starshatter Horizon] additionally triggers [Signature-Meteoric Thunderbolt], dealing 900% Electroconvergence DMG.

Level 18: An additional 3-Ping can be consumed while charging [Disintegration Strike] to increase Extra DMG Bonus of the cast by 200%, trigger all available QTEs, and grant 240 points of Ampere Accumulation to the party.

[Passive-Unquenchable Willpower Level 3] added effect: Extra DMG Bonus of [Disintegration Strike] increases by 50%. The additional 3-Ping consumed while charging [Disintegration Strike] will also double the DMG dealt by the next cast of [Signature-Meteoric Thunderbolt].

[ripe stag]

I just didn't knew if the field is fixed to ground like Lux or it follows the unit

[ripe stag]

It's not written so you need to watch videos
And videos are all so fast with Pyroath that I can't see the field

Some people may think I'm dumb
But seriously is it really that weird for someone to ask questions? Good thing I stay away from them

[buoyant hornet]

Actually seems like she has a separate field for light shred

Just not sure about its properties

[ripe stag]

Yes she does
It looks different that I know
But idk if it follows the onfield unit or is fixed to ground

[buoyant hornet]

I'm guessing it might be similar to garnet's since this field is ripping garnet's flag effect but maybe it's better idk

[ripe stag]

It looks like a radius of electricity

[topaz quiver]

Does SS stigmata build change next patch

[woven haven]

its not

it doesn't deal dmg

doesn't proc eins heisen or tank class

[remote pier]

[buoyant hornet]

Somewhat off topic but I wonder if leap SS 5* daren can do a normal rotation without being bricked

[buoyant hornet]

Ah ic

[shadow holly]

uhh the spin skip move probably gives you enough energy to ult so I guess she can?

cuz with spins you only get enough energy if have sig

[woven haven]

she can but what's the point of ulting

its only with ss3 field that ult is worth

and no sig loses u 10% shred

[buoyant hornet]

That'd be neat because I have selena and sigless lamia so I often end up having to cd fill with XXI anyway

[distant wren]

Ion daren only does ult in feral team and not nanami team right?

[buoyant hornet]

So if daren can rotate at SS0 5* then it'd be nice for my team

[woven haven]

correct

ion daren just skips hold atk and ult entirely

lucia will trigger the affix timer herself

[buoyant hornet]

I mean it's timestop dmg so why not ig

Better than nothing considering my team invest

Sigless lamia can't solo for sht 😭

[woven haven]

i mean do you expect sigless to do anything

[buoyant hornet]

Also I think my daren will have to work because when lilith drops rotating will be mandatory probably

[shadow holly]

i was pretty sure she can, you just do one less 3ping every other rot to have lvl1 tidal and proc matrix

[ionic totem]

which is better davinci qte bot for ice team?
SSS ayla *5 weapon
SS empy r3 with 4 guin harmo

[shadow holly]

oris there smth wrong with that

[buoyant hornet]

Lmao true and what's sad is that lamia is the least sig-reliant unit among the recent S ranks yet she still gets this badly affected

Newer units are so sig dependent for meta it's just 💀

[shadow holly]

for wz, empy
for ppc kaleido

[woven haven]

expecting sigless rights is like expecting discord mods to understand the game of the server they're in

[remote pier]

[buoyant hornet]

I use snazz's approach where I alternate between doing a normal {human lvl 2 tidal > fish lvl 2 tidal > dive> ult} then {human lvl 2 tidal > spam BA for energy until qtes are back up > dive into ult}

[shadow holly]

but you have no sig so you adjust

[buoyant hornet]

It works really well for my sig lamia acc but sigless lamia just doesn't even get enough energy to make it work

[unkempt grotto]

Why not lvl 1 tidal before ult1

[shadow holly]

^

[buoyant hornet]

Also orb economy messier because no dlt

[buoyant hornet]

Accidentally sent the answer to your question lol

I tried that but she ends up running out of orbs altogether

[unkempt grotto]

I see

[buoyant hornet]

So not using any tidals in fish form is just the only reliable thing especially without having dlt

[shadow holly]

just do the more consistent rot from treepy

just dont do tidals in fish form bruh

[buoyant hornet]

Like at all? 😭

[shadow holly]

thats just 6 orbs gone and with no sig its catastrophic

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah I alternate between no tidal and lvl 2 tidal

[shadow holly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPHPqY1c7rE

[buoyant hornet]

Unfortunately have to do tidals because otherwise she doesn't even get enough ult energy

[remote pier]

if no DLT, you are basically sticking to Treepy's solo

[hazy sandal]

Hi gameplay-help

[remote pier]

omg it's Setsulao

new vid out?

[shadow holly]

on rot where you have matrix do 2x3 in fish form with basics then ult
and on the rot where you dont have matrix do 1 3ping in fish form with basics then ult to prepare a lvl1 tidal for next rot where you have matrix to proc it through dodging the wave

[hazy sandal]

What do you think about lillith ult V1 %

[willow steppe]

Qu on 4 right?

[hazy sandal]

U guys think that it will be reduced

[mighty tusk]

dec 4 yea

[hazy sandal]

Its 26345% rn

[woven haven]

i think core dmg needs to go up

[remote pier]

[buoyant hornet]

Hmmmmmm interesting

[woven haven]

then ult dmg can either be nerfed or stay the same

[hazy sandal]

Might highly likely to be nerfed

[thorn creek]

as long as selena is down for good forever they can keep buffing lilith

[buoyant hornet]

I'll try that out ty

[thorn creek]

[woven haven]

but wanshi also has like 20,000% ult

and wanshi ult is not that big

[remote pier]

take away Lamia while Kuro's at it

[hazy sandal]

[thorn creek]

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[buoyant hornet]

Hope it has better results than swapping with selena because selena's dmg is uh

[thorn creek]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1311311654868357120/IMG_7485.gif

[mighty tusk]

still mandatory sss unit though?

[buoyant hornet]

Funny

[thorn creek]

ofc das my plan

[hazy sandal]

In terms of powercreep number playing as time passing perspective its fine?

Mhm

K

[buoyant hornet]

SSS sig r1 h1 selena makes SS0 r0 pre-leap empy look like a powerhouse

[woven haven]

but there is 12s SSS+ Lilith vs tifa onslaught so

[thorn creek]

how does she charge her second ult?

[quartz dove]

Why so many mandatory sss unit

[thorn creek]

3 pings then special ping?

[woven haven]

who

[thorn creek]

lilith second ult

[woven haven]

(3yellow -> red) x3

[thorn creek]

or the ult in her second form

[woven haven]

for max stack ult

[thorn creek]

omg sig mem, wep, or rank gib more orbs?

[buoyant hornet]

Sig doesn't affect orbs

Aside from dlt ig but iirc she doesn't need dlt?

[thorn creek]

idk imma still r3 her instantly out of spite

[buoyant hornet]

#1 cappuccino hater

[woven haven]

no no no

[thorn creek]

breh

[woven haven]

the only place she gets orbs is from ult1 and core

[shadow holly]

can u send link i wanna see

[woven haven]

https://b23.tv/2MqYnzi

[buoyant hornet]

Also is there any dark wz footage with lilith

Aside from empress's test run on stream lol

[woven haven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDu4ufNvGh8&ab_channel=Empress

[shadow holly]

ty pookie

[thorn creek]

as long as no powercreep lamia, am happy

[buoyant hornet]

Perfectly calm music playing as lilith does her psycho things to destroy tifa is so funny 💀

Also wtf her dmg bursts are crazy

[quartz dove]

Thats her ult animation ?

[buoyant hornet]

Seems like she has much better rotation flexibility than lamia?

[quartz dove]

Ngl its kinda

[shadow holly]

[woven haven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3cj5s4307I&t=151s&ab_channel=Empress

[buoyant hornet]

Ik it feels like a gen 1 animation but yes

[woven haven]

flexibility

she can do like exactly 2 things

besides basic attacking

[buoyant hornet]

I meant like being able to cut rotations short and whatnot

[quartz dove]

Her dmg is aite at least

Is she mandatory sss3 like wanshi ?

[buoyant hornet]

Ty

[thorn creek]

[quartz dove]

U know what ss0 probably enough

[woven haven]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhh

[quartz dove]

[woven haven]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

sure...

i guess you can call it that somewhat

[thorn creek]

nah gib her more jojo poses

[woven haven]

she's not really starved for energy so

[stark magnet]

ngh nanami's cn voice is so cute

[thorn creek]

[buoyant hornet]

So she's just potentially better than lamia in ppc probably?

Or at least depending on scenario

[hazy sandal]

What if you 333

[buoyant hornet]

Imagine they release a new dark boss after lilith 💀

[hazy sandal]

You have no choice
Should swap

[thorn creek]

nooooooooooooooooooooooo

plz don't backseat feesh

pak dis S+ feesh b4 lilith

[buoyant hornet]

I love feesh but she can be clunky as hell

[thorn creek]

https://tenor.com/view/skibidi-slot-jackpot-jack-pot-bingo-gif-7062745697901434229

[restive grove]

https://tenor.com/view/persona-3-persona-femc-persona-kotone-persona-minako-femc-gif-9523001624499032417

[quartz dove]

Nah i,d 222

[restive grove]

0.20.20.2*

[buoyant hornet]

The more I watch the wz video the more I realize Lilith's ult 2 animation looks like poo

They'll definitely have to polish it before release lmao

[mighty tusk]

new dark boss having 28 mil hp on hell

because primal projection is currently 22 mil

[buoyant hornet]

I'd quit the game if we have to deal with that using lilith + lamia

[buoyant hornet]

Oh what element is projection I forgot

Dark?

[mighty tusk]

new dark boss for lilith

[buoyant hornet]

Oh that's 💀

F2p gonna enjoy that one a lot 💀

[mighty tusk]

scire skippers btw

[buoyant hornet]

SS0 lamia gonna be amazing

[woven haven]

10/15/22 mil hp on knight chaos hell respectively

[buoyant hornet]

Even better if no daren sig

[quartz dove]

Lamia leap coming or nah ?

[mighty tusk]

any benchmark for 600k and their invest?

[buoyant hornet]

Lowkey needs it

[mighty tusk]

no need for sss lamia?

[livid lark]

oh yea i gonna need some math people to help do the calculation for the new ppc scoring

[quartz dove]

Eklao

[livid lark]

i forgor about that

[quartz dove]

[hazy sandal]

[mighty tusk]

does fel have a spreadsheet for updated ppc scoring?

[livid lark]

idk

if he does lmk

im not in any position to wrack my brain atm

[mighty tusk]

@ashen edge any idea?

ek needs it

[livid lark]

if you guys want it faster then pls keep asking

[woven haven]

36s for SS+Sig+Cub lilith using XXI and Lux

on hell

[mighty tusk]

looks promising

[quartz dove]

So lilith stronger than lamia

[mighty tusk]

should be enough for 580k achievements

[hazy sandal]

:faster:

[quartz dove]

[buoyant hornet]

Honestly that's really promising

[shadow holly]

dragon in shambles

[buoyant hornet]

Lilith lowkey gonna carry dark ppc

[quartz dove]

Im in shamble t99

Shouldnt invest on fish

[buoyant hornet]

Not stronger from what I've heard but she can abuse timestop better in ppc

[quartz dove]

Solo s+ lilith for dark content ez

[buoyant hornet]

That's my understanding I could be wrong

Btw is qu's feather ult weaker than full proper ult?

[mighty tusk]

with ss lamia, ss3 scire, sss lilith, is the dmg distribution like 35%/5%/60%?

[shadow holly]

feather ult? the one after hold dodge core? its prob like 3 times weaker

[woven haven]

yes ofc

unless you have sss then its the same dmg

[buoyant hornet]

Sadge

I thought it might be weaker but no THAT much weaker lol

Tbh either way it doesn't matter because hopefully she'll be the new ppc queen anyway

Her burst is just absurd I wonder what score it'll get me on trailblazer

My best wata score was like, 37s or something like that

[shadow holly]

like
the weaker ult is effectively like 4000% multi with everything counted

[quartz dove]

She have weaker ult ?

[shadow holly]

while the stronger one has around 10k%

at lvl18

[shadow holly]

below sss yes it depends on which core you use

one of them makes you consume less orbs but less ujlt damage, the other one juices up ult damage but you have to do 3x3 for full ult stacks

[floral plover]

Did she got buffed?

[buoyant hornet]

Bruh that's the WEAK variant? 💀

Lmao qu is gonna save me from struggling in ppc score

Imagine off ele fushen qu gets better score than phys

(tbh I wouldn't be surprised lmao)

[dapper skiff]

Timeloss
Timeloss

Missed tank shred

Overkill

Missed tank shred again

Too Slow

Atleast it's still swap ig

[quartz dove]

"Below sss"

[shadow holly]

i mean that's really low, cw ult2 under sss is stronger than that

[mighty tusk]

nah I was just estimating

[buoyant hornet]

Wait is it really? I thought cw ult multiplier was a lot worse tbh lol

[mighty tusk]

ult cw

[vale raft]

Lucia: Crimson Weave

Skill - Signature/Ultimate (Lv. 18)

Weave of Voidness - Weave: Karmic Inferno
Trigger: 70 energy + tap Signature Move

When Alpha is holding the odachi, tap Signature to consume Signature Energy and deal Lightning DMG in a large area. Alpha then puts the odachi away and holds the kodachi in hand. Triggers Time Lag Calculation when casting the skill.

• Deals a total of 2600.0% Lightning DMG.

2/2

[shadow holly]

cw ult2 default multi is 2600% + 80% more dmg from sig mem

[quartz dove]

[shadow holly]

qu weak ult2 is 1100% + doubled base dmg from sig mem + 80% damage increase from stacks

[buoyant hornet]

Ah I completely forgot about sig mem multiplier

[ashen edge]

check my sheet i think i alr make scoring v2 tab in it

[livid lark]

okie

[hazy sandal]

Thank u

[distant wren]

Ok time to solo again

[jaunty beacon]

Self promotion

[mighty tusk]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16z8o9xw3NUhSAymJIRtsWyQsxqEndpgYS4OCb1GYyAQ/edit?gid=249642116#gid=249642116

scoring2 tab

[livid lark]

is onslaught coming next week?

or the exppc revamp

[mighty tusk]

Onslaught is luna patch though

Qu is next patch

[livid lark]

i thought there was a speedup of patch releases

as in kuro merging 3 patches into 1

[mighty tusk]

Qu for us is regular patch

[buoyant hornet]

Qu is the last normal one

[livid lark]

ohh ok

[mighty tusk]

After that might be spedup ones

[livid lark]

so from brat onwards

[buoyant hornet]

Probably done to match KR patch merges

[livid lark]

alright

[turbid bridge]

Might not be last, Rydle found that Hanying patch is normal for JP

[buoyant hornet]

Actually on the 1st merged patch they're putting Luna banner first then the A ranks

[livid lark]

oh ok

[woven haven]

brat? where

[buoyant hornet]

Prolly just because it's the one they're transitioning into just like us with Qu

[livid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/teddy-pgr-a-support-punishing-gray-raven-ultimate-gif-5559312130900803602

[turbid bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-punishing-gray-raven-teddybear-teddy-gif-6004161088810960407

[livid lark]

there

[dapper skiff]

2.022.0 112 101 s cub

[livid lark]

correction patch

[dapper skiff]

[turbid bridge]

KR server started immediately with accelerated patch while they were still on Qu, so it looks hopeful that Hanying is normal then they can pace 1 paid S rank per consolidated patch

[buoyant hornet]

I'm guessing they prolly just wanted to lab rat the KR server for some reason LMAO

But maybe yeah

[turbid bridge]

Dead server

[livid lark]

cos smallest server

[buoyant hornet]

Although their statement made it sound like they wanna get the synchronization done as soon as possible

Likely before dmc collab I'm guessing

I think even one non-fused patch would make it hard to catch up by late 2025?

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah likely

It's just

If they calculate the currency gain rates properly it's gonna feel really funny getting x2 rate or higher bc income

[livid lark]

temporary 2x

[buoyant hornet]

I imagine they end up slightly overflowing the gain rate to make sure new players don't get scared away

[livid lark]

once cn and the rest of the world sync up it'll be back to normal

[buoyant hornet]

Which I hope so because it'd mean easier sigs for me 🤷

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah that's not gonna feel great unfortunately

But hey we'll be caught up do we take it ig

[distant wren]

Teach me how to freestyle like snazz did

[buoyant hornet]

I feel like kuro is going into this knowing damn well they'll have to give excess bc/mats especially if they get negative feedback about some things and end up issuing compensations

[dapper skiff]

Me no freestyle

Just 1.5 rot and sp delay

Save feral ult if waves is weak

[distant wren]

Me only monkey

[dapper skiff]

That's it

https://youtu.be/QiE7DtELqaI?si=2I5uzcxtRs6G6EMc

But tbh

There's some dark magik going on with light

A random ass run with slight error gets a better score and you attempt again for a clean run yet can't get close to the previous imperfect run

||-||fuck cw

Inconsistent asf

[buoyant hornet]

SO I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE? 😭

Lmaoooo good to know

[mighty tusk]

other times, my solo cw scores higher than swap, then other times I get higher score playing swap

[distant wren]

Like i said b4
I have no idea wtf i'm doing in light wz

Just do random sht and hope it works

[unkempt grotto]

Luxury of being a whale

[buoyant hornet]

What's weird for me is I'll often try very different runs and end up getting a very similar score

[mighty tusk]

truly a skill issue of all time
most of the time I can't beat my first score

[buoyant hornet]

That happens to me with other elements but lightning is usually where I can have an actual score improvement after some malding

Probably because solo cw is so annoyingly stingy with her dmg distribution since most of your dmg is packed into slam

[vague nebula]

[mighty tusk]

add that to having r0 cw

[vague nebula]

but but she is sooo coool

[vague nebula]

I can relate

[buoyant hornet]

As someone who runs 2 accs and one of them is r0, yes r0 cw is pretty bad

At some point you genuinely run out of orbs it's abysmal

[vague nebula]

[buoyant hornet]

If only coolness generated more orbs

[vague nebula]

fr

if coolness was dlt

[buoyant hornet]

Imagine

[vague nebula]

[buoyant hornet]

Btw I'm assuming norman and CR start right after qu patch is live?

I'm literally 4 shards away from reso usb lmao

[livid lark]

@mighty tusk ok i figured out the new formula

it didn't change from before much

just new addition

[mighty tusk]

hell was mostly affected?

[livid lark]

no

they stuffed test and elite scores into hp remaining

and balanced it out

starting at 18k for knight and then double it each diff up to hell

knight atm is 9k for hp remaining

[ripe stag]

Guys

I NEED NORMAN

[vague nebula]

CR will be live on monday
Qu patch is on Wednesday

[ripe stag]

Qukra peak

[vague nebula]

I'm 21 shards away from usb. basically 1 norbald

[vague nebula]

found a hyperreal simp in my bracket. bro got 3s car r3 sig 3s fist

[stiff burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/wuthering-waves-wuwa-wuthering-waves-chibi-chibi-wuthering-waves-wuthering-gif-6530731217393221149

[ripe stag]

This dude didn't even minmax

Smh

[lavish slate]

the exaggerated swagger of timeline jumper

[worldly topaz]

btw Shukra memo is Jiboan & Chen Jiyuan even no harmo ye?

[vague nebula]

[carmine reef]

If no harmo you'd use darwin

[vague nebula]

fr

[carmine reef]

Unless SSS then cottie

But 5* qu no rights

[woven haven]

cottie is only for ppc

[carmine reef]

[woven haven]

even for no harmo its kinda ass

to just use 2pc cottie

[worldly topaz]

hah
no sign weap is suck you say

aight

[woven haven]

basically every S rank since Wata except for Lilith

harmo is too strong to compete against

[proven marten]

I just noticed the harmo build list in the pins
That's actually really nice for my small brain

[worldly topaz]

lel
aight so what Epitaph memo no harmo ?

[mighty tusk]

2 cottie

he might be forced to use 2 eins when paired with luna void and lucia pyroath

assuming empy has no harmo

or using harmo alisa

[worldly topaz]

hmm I have harmo Alisa
okie dokie

[livid lark]

time hell 20

[vale raft]

Hell 0:20

Final Score: 311682

[livid lark]

timev2 hell 20

[vale raft]

Hell 0:20

Final Score: 347682

[livid lark]

[mighty tusk]

also the score increase

[livid lark]

try it

and then compare with a bili2 example

[mighty tusk]

timev2 hell 36

[vale raft]

Hell 0:36

Final Score: 330338

[mighty tusk]

you assume I can navigate through bili

time hell 36

[vale raft]

Hell 0:36

Final Score: 294338

[livid lark]

ask jambu, aether or Fel or someone who can grab the vids

[vague nebula]

[proven marten]

Is there a way to put a reso on Lantern fesitival or no?

[vague nebula]

so kurai has to make new 580k sheet

[vague nebula]

no way to reso 5 star memories other than using same memory. meaning lantern can't be reso

[proven marten]

Oh well

[vague nebula]

or if u want to reduce the number of lantern u have

I wouldn't recommend btw

[restive grove]

wats ya'll new tb hell score w/ ss0 wata

[woven haven]

not me

[mighty tusk]

but I used dark on hell TB and fire on knight-chaos

[vague nebula]

i finally 580k'd with my skill issue runs.
3.5 rot wata needed

55s with lamia btw

[proven marten]

Man I still hate Dark shark
Can never do well on it

[mighty tusk]

get 26-30 sec bru

[restive grove]

tried to do 2x4 blaze orbs rot
didnt work 😔

[vague nebula]

i tried windbell's dalao rot. never do the same dmg

[mighty tusk]

perfect memory resos?

[boreal delta]

guys how to complete exploratory V?

[vague nebula]

no.

[boreal delta]

im kinda trying to get the avatar border

[mighty tusk]

start perfecting them

[vague nebula]

activate crimson insight
go to chapter seven and reject the tide

also take this handbook for cursed waves @boreal delta https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AZG9V0J0It5TcKRN1aPYTicje-Cb0gjA2tPR-SYH9H4/edit?usp=sharing

[vague nebula]

[boreal delta]

okiii thank you lucia

[vague nebula]

bottom resos r perfect on lamia. 2 class reso on karen. 2 class reso on coffee @mighty tusk

[vague nebula]

[mighty tusk]

that......might be enough for 580k though

sequence pact fully unlocked right?

[boreal delta]

how to get the returners blade thing?

[rose yew]

nuuu reading

[thorn spire]

After you defeat lamia, reject cradle first to look for something

Anyway, should I skip Shukra to get Oblivion and Hanying?

I have 8.9k orange cards and the black cards I have saved is for CW's skin

[vague nebula]

its in the guide read pls

[vague nebula]

if u already decided then why r u asking?
anyways skipping shukra means no ice team for u

[median dune]

Bonjour, wanna as something. i saw my friend using different rotation when using epitaph during ult1

Him: Basic atk (spend 1 slugshell) -> hold dodge -> spam Blaze Orbs -> Ult2
Me: 3x 3pings -> Hold atk -> ult2

Which one is better?

[thorn spire]

I have trust in bambi

[mighty tusk]

have fun with emperor

exppc emperor

[vale raft]

Emperor

Weakness: Frost (Ice)

Zone Type: EXPPC

Start Time: 5.25s

Difficulty: Hell

HP: 19,000,000
Super Armor: 73,300
Extra Damage Reduction: 0.0%
Defence: 1,500
Phys Resist: 0.0%
Fire Resist: 20.0%
Light Resist: 20.0%
Ice Resist: 20.0%
Dark Resist: 20.0%

[thorn spire]

I'm cooked

[vague nebula]

19 million hell

[median dune]

[vague nebula]

holy motherf.....

[mighty tusk]

twice than that of madorea and tifa and MD

exppc madorea

[vale raft]

Mutated Mechanoid: Madorea

Weakness: Frost (Ice)

Zone Type: EXPPC

Start Time: 4.63s

Difficulty: Hell

HP: 7,500,001
Super Armor: 25,000
Extra Damage Reduction: 0.0%
Defence: 1,500
Phys Resist: 0.0%
Fire Resist: 20.0%
Light Resist: 20.0%
Ice Resist: 20.0%
Dark Resist: 20.0%

[mighty tusk]

nvm, madorea is not even half of emperor

[vague nebula]

dude I struggle so much with mado, tifa, md.

574k on mado

[mighty tusk]

I....580k madorea with ss3 5* kaleido ss cub with sigless glory

[thorn spire]

I'll just leave it all to luck then

[vague nebula]

[livid lark]

lol luck

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

580k with luck

[thorn spire]

Hoping to get Shukra Oblivion and Hanying within 10 pulls

[vague nebula]

pls teach me @mighty tusk

[mighty tusk]

we haven't even mentioned onslaught ppc

[mighty tusk]

paint dupes

orb luck

[livid lark]

yea but casuals wont even bother let alone get there

[vague nebula]

color bug?

[mighty tusk]

yea

[livid lark]

onslaught shouldnt even be a consideration for them

[wispy robin]

we need someone to make vid about why pgr fans should play dmc now

[mighty tusk]

so in the end, it's about dmc and vergil and not pgr

I'm just so glad I did not come to this game thinking it's dmc-like

[vague nebula]

well next time we have legs for mado when it appears
no need for color bug anymoar
all hail legs

[livid lark]

guy has a CA pfp

what do you expect

[mighty tusk]

expected ofc

[distant wren]

Man i love surface level comparisons fr fr

[vague nebula]

[median dune]

Explain

[median dune]

tbh i dont even see the guides lol, i just play em by instict so far

[thorn spire]

More dmg

[median dune]

But it's kinda slower rotation as far as i see

[vague nebula]

[rose yew]

you don't need guides trust your guts nya

[vague nebula]

[livid lark]

doing 3x red with anim locks is the issue

[median dune]

I trust my guts, but my guts dont trust me

[ionic totem]

can SS epitaph use shakespeare and is it better? (After rework)

[ripe stag]

Time to do it

[ripe stag]

Only when Sub-DPS or early ppc nodes

[thorn spire]

Question for lightning wz, is 1.4 million good? I have SS0 R2 CW, Garnet and S9 Feral are qte bots for now since I don't have Feral's weapon and missing 2 shards of her

[livid lark]

are you retaining hero

[median dune]

uhh, what rank? leader?

[livid lark]

that's your litmus test

[ripe stag]

Not my place to talk about
Lightning warzone is bad civ for me

[thorn spire]

Stuck in elite but I'll be in leader next reset

[livid lark]

if you're only retaining hero 50% of the time then no

ok when you get to hero see if you can maintain

[ripe stag]

What's your uh
Level

[livid lark]

otherwise no you're not doing well since it's global

[thorn spire]

108...

[ripe stag]

Yea then it's super bad

[thorn spire]

I have skill issue

[ripe stag]

Wait
I have a suggestion

Send your friend ID and server name

[vague nebula]

he is soloing

[median dune]

i mean they got no SS feral tho, it's kinda decent for that hero score

unless they got a fullset and not QTE bots, then that score is VERILY questionable

[ripe stag]

[ripe stag]

It's really not
They aren't in hero

They in elite

[thorn spire]

I forgot hold on

[ionic totem]

your asking too much of him with 5* weapon on his qte bots
5* on amp is so bricked you'll really have a hard time retaining when everybody is using 4 dav 4 guins

[mighty tusk]

bro why is fire wz in legend higher than lightning wz in LIGHTNING weather

[wispy robin]

wait why gr is recommending brilliance for budget qu team
isn't she literally physical or do i not get something here

[mighty tusk]

kinda outdated info

[sleek basin]

imagine onslaught in eu

[mighty tusk]

the reason to use brilliance was due to past chj memory set

[livid lark]

he asked if he was doing well tho

[ornate oasis]

Im also questioning this