📨・meta-help

[foggy ridge]

i gave it to balter

[slender aurora]

im giving my bambi sig to qu

[stiff elm]

im giving this to qu

an eye for an eye

[raw swift]

I did some summoning ritual with friends before the pull so ig it worked

[mighty tusk]

just need more fodders here

[vague nebula]

[foggy ridge]

now i need to figure out how to get rid of wanshis sig for qus

and then give usb to lamia cuz i am DESPERATELY needing that dlt on her

[mighty tusk]

you can play solo lamia without dlt though

[foggy ridge]

i do dark swap

[dapper skiff]

Just do 1.5 rot with ss0

[mighty tusk]

here am I forced to play solo lamia

[dapper skiff]

Unless yours isn't ss0

[foggy ridge]

its ss0

[dapper skiff]

(paking Whel)

[foggy ridge]

ss3 soon with skulls

[dapper skiff]

1.5 rot on lamia doesn't need dlt either

She has enough rot for rot

[stiff elm]

oh sh wait, I can just

[raw swift]

look at this phat whel

[stiff elm]

should I?

[vague nebula]

[stiff elm]

ss3 scire now or?

[dapper skiff]

More orbs isn't doable cause you're losing time while doing double without ss3 energy

[mighty tusk]

if you can tolerate playing s5 qu

[raw swift]

yes

[stiff elm]

for like what a week?

[raw swift]

[slender aurora]

if you have enough to ss qu first sure

[mighty tusk]

yea, so gauge out if you can tolerate that

[foggy ridge]

whats the 1.5 rot?

[slender aurora]

for you itd be like 3-4 weeks

[stiff elm]

btw I had enough like spare shards from other pulls to ss1 her already

so I only need like 17 shards

[slender aurora]

oh

[mighty tusk]

yea try it out lol

[stiff elm]

only 240 skulls

[foggy ridge]

whel

[slender aurora]

ok yeah go for it then

[stiff elm]

hmm, actually ill pull for qu first and then if I get more stray shards then ill spend skulls

since like, 60 pulls is a lot im bound to get stray shards from that.. I think

[raw swift]

no way, so many whales on my pgro gameplay help chat smh

[crimson hill]

My f2p eyes cant take it

[raw swift]

[dapper skiff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/663286717985456157/1293929498668040243/SS0_Lamia_Rotation.mp4?ex=67092940&is=6707d7c0&hm=3c1033f02005257941d0020fc75a4cf32fd1bac761c57da0fe39e6a99d9610f3&

[stiff elm]

yeah I think that makes most sense

[slender aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

who does this guy think he is

[stiff elm]

yeah thats easier for my vouchers

[crimson hill]

Hello fellow f2p

[raw swift]

look at this phat whel trying to be relatable

[stiff elm]

but what im gonna hate the most is probably like S6 wanshi lucid dreamer for a month

[dapper skiff]

If you were to do core on 2nd rot, the next swap in won't have enough orbs for ult

If you do have enough orbs for it, then you won't have enough for 2nd rot core for ult energy

Even with core I really doubt you'd have enough energy for ult2

[slender aurora]

we got poseidon's son in the chat acting like a teensy tiny goldfish

[raw swift]

[stiff elm]

since you can only buy like 20 shards before it becomes expensive in vouchers

[woven haven]

dev intended way to play lolith in ion:
6 blue -> ult1 -> hold atk -> ult2 to trigger ion and swap to lucia

optimal way to play lolith in ion:
6blue -> ult1 -> hold atk -> swap to lucia
subsequent rotations just hold atk and swap off and never ult2 until last second on the wz timer

[dapper skiff]

While doing all of that, you probably already out of amp timer before casting 2nd ult2

So

Just do 1.5 to do everything within 10s

[stiff elm]

oh yeah @mighty tusk funny thing

[foggy ridge]

something something on first swap in uhhhhhhhhhhhh
🟡 🔵 🟡 🔵 🟡 🟡 🟡

[stiff elm]

the weapon I had selected on the standard weapon banner was hecate but changed it to illuminare for that pull

thank god bruh, that would have been the loss of a lifetime 💀

[raw swift]

is that the traffic light in order?

[stiff elm]

traffic lights at ikea? the fu?

[raw swift]

I can't read

[digital moat]

Is her ult2 sht in ion

[mighty tusk]

👀

[woven haven]

more like starting the timer with lilith ult vs starting the timer with lucia hold blue is the issue

ion mode lasts 12s only

[remote pier]

[woven haven]

lilith takes like 3s to charge ion using the cheese method

[raw swift]

[digital moat]

Makes sense

If liliths damage doesn't hold up compared to lucia

[digital moat]

Cheese

[sleek basin]

So ion team now is Lilith oath nanaknight?

[sand laurel]

what kind of cheese?

[carmine mesa]

Swiss, aged and smoked.

[mighty tusk]

and rotten

[wraith elk]

Garnet SSS still worth via vouchers next patch with faster schedule?

[raw swift]

with molds

[sleek basin]

And with mold

[mighty tusk]

not that worth

[digital moat]

A lot less value

[mighty tusk]

other units want sss more

[woven haven]

her dmg isn’t bad its that

why would you add one lilith ult when you can do 5 lucia ult rot instead

[sand laurel]

oh dear, what an accelerated schedule can do to a man

[wraith elk]

Bp users will be able to do all leap units to SSS or no?

[woven haven]

also yeah her ult dmg numbers are -55% or so in ion mode compared to dark mode LMAO

[sleek basin]

~~im gonna do it for the sticker ~~
Given we'll have enough vouchers

[woven haven]

its still able to clear waves but not that amazing

[digital moat]

[woven haven]

lmao

[mighty tusk]

if you're a regular spender

[woven haven]

if it wasn’t for the leap/voucher spam sure

now even bps are struggling

[remote pier]

[sand laurel]

still no info about the compensations?

[remote pier]

150 bc take it or leave

[mighty tusk]

may have to wait for patch after qu

[raw swift]

1 bc compensation

[sand laurel]

what if no compensations was the actual compensation?

[raw swift]

[wraith elk]

I guess holding off then until we see if voucher income change

[sleek basin]

The compensation was the friends we made along the way

[sand laurel]

and bricks, heartwarming and memorable

[digital moat]

9k cogs

[mighty tusk]

and the impending hastened powercreep

[raw swift]

https://tenor.com/view/asian-girl-brick-brick-throw-kill-gif-25574003

[mighty tusk]

lessgo, cw powercreep becomes faster

[sand laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-frog-gif-27124187

[woven haven]

@digital moat ok nvm i figured it out and its really dumb

[digital moat]

More cheese

[sand laurel]

theres wuwa nextdoor

[woven haven]

why the cheese method is 20x better than dev intended ion gameplay

[dapper skiff]

Wadapak

Cheese method

Is it drippy?

[ripe stag]

Lunchly mode?

[woven haven]

When you do ion core on lilith she gets ion mark

while this mark is active, all her buffs change to lightning permanently

Ult2 clears the mark and activates ion mode

While ion mode is active lilith is still considered to have the mark but once ion mode ends she goes back to dark buff

So if you never use ult2…

[digital moat]

[mighty tusk]

someone tested this?

[carmine mesa]

So Kuro will offload the mark on to ult2

[sand laurel]

can they hotfix this if its actually working like that😳

[raw swift]

[woven haven]

yes

this means btw if you activate mark on lilith and swap off she’s just perma light amp…

yeah if this isn’t fixed feral takes collateral dmg

[mighty tusk]

I mean......feral is kinda on the chopping block though

[ashen edge]

[mighty tusk]

atleast after empy and alisa

[ashen edge]

ye pernament lightning buff

[woven haven]

no you see

nanaknight fire tank mode required onfielding every 15s to upkeep mode

lilith doesn’t clear the mark and start the timer if you don’t ult2

[sand laurel]

its just gen 10 feature

[woven haven]

and there’s already reason to not ult2 before so that you can manually activate ion on lucia instead of automatically on lilith

[sand laurel]

nothing speshul to see here, just move on folks

[vague nebula]

[dapper skiff]

Not even free amp but already powercreep first before even empy

[digital moat]

Lilith took down 2 with 1 stone frfr

[turbid bridge]

3 technically

[digital moat]

Omg daren too

[woven haven]

3

[dapper skiff]

Wait

Maybe she's already free

[woven haven]

4 if you count nerfing ishmael

[dapper skiff]

1 dupe is free enough

[digital moat]

tf

[dapper skiff]

clueless

[woven haven]

remember dark tank ishmael is weaker than other versions

[digital moat]

How so

[ashen edge]

[delicate isle]

[steady otter]

[turbid bridge]

No free sig though, 10% heal buff

[delicate isle]

[turbid bridge]

<

[meager iris]

am I the only one who didn't like Lilith?

[turbid bridge]

Lmao

Ion value just skyrocketed

[mighty tusk]

her animations are just.....that

[meager iris]

exactly

[raw swift]

that mid

[mighty tusk]

budget went to someone else

[hardy rock]

Is vera’s sig worth getting? Since shes getting a leap

[mighty tusk]

but fr, they'll adjust lilith though

[raw swift]

Kamui or Selena prolly

[mighty tusk]

if it meant skipping future s-ranks then no

[hardy rock]

It doesnt add to any shred right? Just her personal dmg?

[mighty tusk]

1 is forgotten and the other is a forgotten cashcow when cw dropped in cn

[mighty tusk]

leap garnet

[vale raft]

Vera: Garnet

Skill - Leap

Rumbling Might

When performed with maximum [Electric Charge] stacks, Base DMG of [Lightning Fall] increases by 30%.

Level 9: Upon switch-in, the first cast of [Lightning Fall] grants 20 Energy. Performing [Lightning Fall] with maximum [Electric Charge] stacks rearranges Signal Orbs into 3-Pings.

Level 18: When performed with maximum [Electric Charge] stacks, Extra DMG Bonus of [Lightning Fall] increases by 30%.

[Passive: Unyielding Breacher] added effect: Lightning Resistance Reduction effect of Turbulence Interference inflicted by Vera: Garnet increases by 10%.

[mighty tusk]

lvl 18 has additional shred

at sss

[hardy rock]

Ok thanks, cause i have ss3 feral and kinda wanna rotate with garnet, its so boring having alpha on field sm 😭

[dapper skiff]

So true bestie

[delicate isle]

[fiery cloak]

Am I gonna use them all or there's some sets can be considered as fodders?

[pseudo locust]

don't fodder memories

[rose yew]

gotta collect em all

[pseudo locust]

you would use them sometime when you have more units

[fiery cloak]

I've foddered 5* and belows......

[pseudo locust]

also nice username lmao 😭

[crimson hill]

Some 5* are meta xD

[dapper skiff]

Screwed

5* memories are still valuable

[crimson hill]

I need more 5* mem to reso

[dapper skiff]

[crimson hill]

No good way to get them...

[ripe stag]

Reso 5*

[dapper skiff]

AE-04

[fiery cloak]

Are they really hard to get?

[dapper skiff]

clueless

[dapper skiff]

Yup

[crimson hill]

Ik, it fbm

[pseudo locust]

yeah, quite

[crimson hill]

5* are harder than 6*

xD

[dapper skiff]

They're quite rare once you get out of beginners level

[fiery cloak]

O.o no

[dapper skiff]

Yeah

[fiery cloak]

I've screwed it seems

[crimson hill]

Only sht place drop 5

It's not that big of a deal

[pseudo locust]

you can still get some 5* memo frags by being a student

[fiery cloak]

For future self, what 5* sets should I be focusing on?

Or is it all of em?

[rose yew]

all of them

[crimson hill]

Well

Gloria, Voltaire, Samathan, Rich... are the 5* you need

[pseudo locust]

just don't use up the 5* frags yet, and only do if you're actually building someone

[pine slate]

gloria, samantha mainly

[raw swift]

I still have 3000 5* memo shards from over a year ago

[ripe stag]

Wait
So
Next patch ice becomes the #1 meta team? Like in general damage terms

[carmine mesa]

Depends on invest level, but generally speaking, ice will lead for neutral PPC.

[pine slate]

not hamlet

[autumn summit]

how am i supposed to get Residence Permit

[pseudo locust]

buy from dorm shop with dorm coins

[rose yew]

apply for citizenship kek

[vague nebula]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867718398208245761/1168402145012359178/1108281401381507144.gif

[sand laurel]

to brickustan with Miku

[dreamy pelican]

gang...

i have just enough tix for qu, and not her weapon

its also gonna take weeks for me to get enough skulls for ss....

time to drop to elite

[rugged cloud]

sameee

[rugged cloud]

just luccsacc

[dreamy pelican]

[remote pier]

[raw swift]

That's when you start pulling on fate

[glass bay]

Bricked

[stark magnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1271675928346497077/daren_brick.gif

[vague nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-padoru-christmas-joke-anime-gif-16368098

[dapper skiff]

Oh no

[ashen edge]

[simple basin]

It's time

[rare badge]

was about to skip wata cub, decided to throw 5 at it anyways. 2 pity, game is telling me something

[zenith thorn]

sigma sigma of the skibidi
who's the skibidiest of them all

[rare badge]

please perish

[jaunty beacon]

https://i.gyazo.com/46d6bea673395178aa877049d3ffa950.gif

[wise jasper]

is watanabe appear in standard banner on teddy or luna patch ?

[raw swift]

Teddy

[jaunty beacon]

Teddy. But with the speed up (and especially the KR server news) they'll most likely fuse teddy and luna patch

[wise jasper]

nice

[zenith thorn]

with me

bro had a vision

[lethal sun]

https://tenor.com/view/oiia-oiiaoiia-oiia-oiia-cat-gif-13397875673260883779

[pine slate]

I got that recommended as well

[vague nebula]

[fiery cloak]

4* memories are okay to burn right?

[sand laurel]

yeah

[rose yew]

except the one that has airstrike effect

don't scrap that one super op

[sand laurel]

there's no 4* memory with airstrike effect

what was oneechan9680 smoking today?

[zenith thorn]

me

[rose yew]

fire for effect: reduces enemy max hp by 20%, last for 5s, cooldown 15s on same enemy

[sand laurel]

if that was the case then they would say something like there 1* mem with dv effect

[woven haven]

ok but if the enemy has alr lost 20% or more HP it doesn’t do anything

[sand laurel]

wait, it exists?

[woven haven]

no

just countering miku fantasies with reality balancing

[sand laurel]

I think its called delusions

[sleek basin]

Omg

[rose yew]

it cuts ppc time by like 2-3s tho

[sand laurel]

I don't even want to know whats their ppc clear times

[zenith thorn]

3 minutes test

[still moat]

back to being f2p

[rose yew]

once a whale, always a whale

[fringe kestrel]

@hidden forum u got that lightning hero wz vid? 👀

[hidden forum]

No

I didn’t do that run

Jeremey did

[fringe kestrel]

oh

[steep jetty]

Hello, I'm a returning player. I have used up 40 pulls on event banner apparently a few years back (not pictured here). Stopped playing early on after the first event at Y1.

Should I continue pushing through this account or should I start a new account

[unkempt grotto]

Why are you here

[rose yew]

because 3.3gb pjsekai download file

[unkempt grotto]

I'm grabbing a drink ping me when it's done

[raw swift]

Yeah reroll

Kamui Tenebrion and Liv Luminance are bad picks now

On the next one be sure to pick either Lee Entropy or Nanami Pulse on the first selector with only 5 characters, and on the one that you get from guide missions choose rosetta

[unkempt grotto]

Isn't tenebrion good if no karenina dark

[raw swift]

For now you should probably not pull for Lamia or CW on the basic banner, but rather Watanabe Epitaph when he is added on the basic banner (teddy patch around 1-2 months)

[restive grove]

just 3s xxi

[raw swift]

SSS no.21 is a good enough substitute

And in most cases is better

[woven haven]

XXI better

esp after mem rework

[raw swift]

And it's not worth it since excluding Lucia Crimson Abyss and Bianca Stigmata, there's not really anyone close to Lee Entropy

[rocky wedge]

does lilith kill karen in ion

[woven haven]

yes

[rocky wedge]

YEEESSS

[woven haven]

then she kills herself in ion

and kills 21 in light (loophole)

and nerfs ishmael in void

[steep kite]

https://tenor.com/view/lilith-pgr-pgr-lilith-lilith-pgr-horny-gif-9248390151224236784

lilith moment

[woven haven]

clown moment

[rocky wedge]

she is truely my wife

[woven haven]

impressively lilith has

1. Killed Capri in Dark
2. Killed 21 in Light due to a certain dev oversight that probably will be patched
3. Killed Scire in Ion
4. Put herself on the “needs to be replaced soon” tab in Ion team
5. Nerfed SSS Ishmael in Void

one unit 4 metas shaken and one self injury

[nova forum]

Wutda

[rocky wedge]

well atleast its v1

also wtf yata patch in tw alr

[steep kite]

truly a lilith moment

[woven haven]

v1 unit being slapped with DV Eins Guin in WZ is not a good look for longevity

[high wharf]

guys what memories go on my girl empy

[woven haven]

4DV Guin Eins as support for Epitaph

nothing else really now

[high wharf]

okay thank you eins goes on top or bottom ?

[mighty tusk]

does not matter

[woven haven]

Doesn’t matter

[high wharf]

okay thank u guys

[woven haven]

also @rocky wedge you cursed us

[rocky wedge]

🥹

why what i do this time

[woven haven]

lilith is literally capri 2.0

free unit numbers

[mighty tusk]

an upgrade over capri, but still needs sss

[woven haven]

she eventually plays identically to capri rotation wise

[sand laurel]

I don't understand 4)
can you elaborate more on this pls?

[woven haven]

Ion Lilith is intended to be subdps cuz her ult packs a decent punch

Instead people just skip ult every rot

4DV2Guin2Eins

First swap
6 blue -> ult1 -> hold atk to consume 9 orbs -> swap off

Every swap after:
hold atk to consume 9 orbs -> swap off

As expected she got slapped with DV Guin Eins

which means she’s the weakest dmg unit in ion

which is exactly what scire was

[sand laurel]

[woven haven]

and that scores 14 mil in wz btw

[dapper skiff]

Who's ion subdps again

[woven haven]

ion is the strongest scoring element in v1 beta now

[woven haven]

nanami doing off element lightning dmg

0.8x vs 1.3x

[dapper skiff]

[woven haven]

but nanami is obviously
nanamillion dmg

[sand laurel]

is lilith still in beta or was she already released?

[woven haven]

beta v1

[mighty tusk]

v1 beta was literally yesterday

[sand laurel]

ic

no way they release her in this state

[sleek basin]

[mighty tusk]

[sand laurel]

or will they?

[mighty tusk]

likely will change

can't afford to be in hotwaters rn

[woven haven]

she needs lotttts of fixes

[sand laurel]

we can fix her

[woven haven]

to stop her from replacing 21 prematurely before next light amp

to make her functional in ion besides battery and swap off

[sleek basin]

https://tenor.com/view/vsause-michael-michael-vsause-vsause-michael-gif-25125732

[woven haven]

the ishmael interaction is intentional though

so that’s not getting changed

[sleek basin]

Why does she replace 21 tho

[woven haven]

her buffs change to lightning instead of dark in ion rot

somehow kuro left a loophole keeping the change permanent if you don’t ult

[sleek basin]

So that works in light

[raw swift]

Is spider2b's qukra guide accurate

[sleek basin]

Genius

[mighty tusk]

wait.....how does sss feral perform compared to sss lilith in lightning?

[sand laurel]

we gonna find out when she released

let kuro fix the crazy woman first

[sleek basin]

Or mb she will break solon

[woven haven]

dead

S new gen amp = SSS + Sig Old Gen Amp

[sand laurel]

@woven haven how many cycles does beta have?

[woven haven]

4-5

updates are entirely random times

[woven haven]

no

[sand laurel]

and I guess tons of small fixes in between

[dapper skiff]

Decent enough

At least it doesn't tell you to skip rot now

Qu rot is straightforward

[sleek basin]

There is empress one

[dapper skiff]

Only lack basic weaving for better orb

But that's sweaty

[sand laurel]

I only take karen sweaty

[sleek basin]

[sand laurel]

eh ehm, the orb malding is what I mean ofc

[woven haven]

no the builds are trash

[dapper skiff]

Pfffff

[zealous goblet]

Which memories should I be farming in advance before the memory rework patch

[woven haven]

don’t fk ing watch spider2b

he’s turned garbage already

[woven haven]

he doesn’t even know what sss qu does

in THE FK ING GUIDE VIDEO

[sand laurel]

I feel like spider getting burned out slowly

[woven haven]

STOP WATCHING SPIDER

[dapper skiff]

Real

[rose yew]

watch fury production instead

[dapper skiff]

He is toasted

[sand laurel]

sad

[dapper skiff]

Time to kiwi

[sand laurel]

where Atsushi video

[sleek basin]

Haachama cooking?

[dapper skiff]

Doesn't exists

[woven haven]

Spider2B is the crystallization of a burnt out casual who doesn’t bother to fact check or even LOOK at what the kit does

[dapper skiff]

Try again next year

[woven haven]

And is only making guides cuz he found a slave to stitch his twitch streams for more yt money

[pine slate]

Still waiting for that @rocky wedge guide

[jaunty beacon]

What if she slips and misses a stair step

[sand laurel]

Its been 289 days without an Atsushi pgr video, I can’t stop shaking and I’m having severe mental breakdowns. I woke up today and immediately logged onto Youtube but all that greeted me was nothingness, 0 pgr activity from Atsushi. I had a major panic attack but managed to calm down after a few hours. I am nothing without Atsushi's pgr videos, it is my life and my everything. I don't think I can hold on for much longer, put a note on my grave when Atsushi uploads pgr again

[dapper skiff]

Straight to the 1st floor then

https://tenor.com/view/stairs-family-guy-falling-gif-9853454

[jaunty beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/chw-key-booth-coin-hunt-world-gif-25224134

[sand laurel]

ok so what else is there other than reading the char essay yourself?

[woven haven]

Watching empress rot

and asking here for the builds

[mighty tusk]

Its been 289 days without an Atsushi pgr video, I can’t stop shaking and I’m having severe mental breakdowns. I woke up today and immediately logged onto Youtube but all that greeted me was nothingness, 0 pgr activity from Atsushi. I had a major panic attack but managed to calm down after a few hours. I am nothing without Atsushi's pgr videos, it is my life and my everything. I don't think I can hold on for much longer, put a note on my grave when Atsushi uploads pgr again

[sand laurel]

who's empress

[rocky wedge]

god

[sand laurel]

what region?

[rose yew]

jp

[dapper skiff]

mars

[sand laurel]

superior alien species playing piss gacha games

unbelievable

[dapper skiff]

The robot are interesting

[sand laurel]

k good point

[sleek basin]

Cn, but kr

[brazen spire]

He's been burned out after lamia the only reason he still made videos now is cause he saw a faster way to do them

[sand laurel]

the quality went completely downhill

[sleek basin]

He clearly said he retired after lamia vid

[rose yew]

it be even faster if he used ai

[sleek basin]

Than whatever was that wata video got released

[brazen spire]

He does the "guides" whenever he streams the newest patch in tw

[restive grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867995160854806588/1217217443123167343/nonomiburger-1.gif

[woven haven]

blud uses trueslash balt in phys wz

and wonders why his dmg is so low

he’s a joke of a “guidemaker”

he doesn’t even show the correct combo for sss qu

he just does ss rot

ON SSS

[sand laurel]

Aether should make videos

and by videos I mean pgr videos

[mighty tusk]

600k tb and 600+k ds

[carmine mesa]

Do we need Tenma's brother making PGR videos... putting it this way, yes please

[sand laurel]

I haven’t even touched ppc yet

[dapper skiff]

Whel

Score gap too much to bother Malding this week

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1272196375534239834.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=clueless

[mighty tusk]

once qu patch comes, it's gonna be another split for wata, qu and lamia

Imma try qu on tifa for the memes

[dapper skiff]

Ppc is whel mode

[quiet lily]

[dapper skiff]

Not enough space in 1% for f2*

[quiet lily]

fk ppc, imma tryhard on norman

[mighty tusk]

watch me fall to fake 1% by sunday

[quiet lily]

i miss norman

[dapper skiff]

At least legend occasionally rewards skilled SS0 to legend

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1272196375534239834.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=clueless

[woven haven]

uploading ww video when i get home then

[mighty tusk]

ew playing a dedgaem

[quiet lily]

[woven haven]

ok gfl2 v6 suomi stream then

[mighty tusk]

no....play tears of themis

[lethal sun]

https://tenor.com/view/burnice-zzz-gif-11347442172906175620

[glass bay]

Fk whel

Such omegawhel

[ripe stag]

https://tenor.com/view/burnice-burnice-white-zzz-zenless-zone-zero-burnice-zzz-gif-9901290043786232263

[storm quail]

Hi, is the games newbie friendly rn? I used to play since launch and stop when alpha released so I wonder how much the game has changed?

[rugged cloud]

which alpha?

[storm quail]

The first alter one

Like a month or two in when game released

[rugged cloud]

I also stopped about there
been back for a few months

[little laurel]

The game changed so much

[rugged cloud]

there's a guaranteed S rank you can pick in the base (blue ticket banner)
But ask around before picking

[wispy robin]

Depends whats your goals
Rn is pretty much your last chance to catch up meta if you care about it

[storm quail]

hmm

[raw swift]

Now is your last chance to catch up

[rugged cloud]

True
we're gonna speed up

#📨・meta-help message

[storm quail]

Got nothing to do so I remember of this game, hbr is boring af

[little laurel]

Make new acc

Wait I heard that people that played at the games lunch has 10k bc

Do you still have it?

[storm quail]

That drama? Idk

[mighty tusk]

Not even a whel
More of a goldfish

[storm quail]

Maybe when I log ib my old account, after downloading the files yet

[little laurel]

Oof

[little laurel]

Try and see if you have it. If not, just make a new acc or maybe stick to the old one

[heavy loom]

im kinda new who should i get? crimson weave lucia or hyperreal..?

[little laurel]

It depends on what you play for

If you want waifus or you wanna get to leaderboard like meta meta

[heavy loom]

i just got the new watanabe as well do like idk what to prioritise

[mighty tusk]

Do you have lamia?

[wispy robin]

Lamia

[heavy loom]

well.. i just thought they both look cool and idk which one i want

[heavy loom]

nopee

[mighty tusk]

If no lamia, lamia is top choice

[sleek basin]

^
Feesh is precious

[little laurel]

You wanna go for meta?

Then Pick lamia but you want pick from both then pick Alpha crimson weave

[heavy loom]

alrightyy

[raw swift]

Lamia takes priority if u have epitaph

[rose yew]

crimson abyss best DPS

[rose yew]

[heavy loom]

i just got him

[little laurel]

💀

[raw swift]

I mean if you have epitaph*

[rose yew]

wata uncle banner still up?

[little laurel]

You just got epitaph?

[mighty tusk]

Miku

[rose yew]

ye

[little laurel]

Yes ofc

[heavy loom]

yeapp

[rose yew]

NyaNi
banner usually close like 5 days b4 patch ends

[mighty tusk]

Guess my next move

[raw swift]

Can we just shorten fire wata to wataph

[rose yew]

don't ping Violet

[raw swift]

Which is.. now

[little laurel]

I online earlier and it was still up

[sand laurel]

the extra zero error?

[little laurel]

Yes

[sand laurel]

sounds fun

Kuro signature opening move ♟️

[rose yew]

oh ye the 1 rc bundle incident

[strong pelican]

Should I pull Watanabe or save for Qu? rn I only have Lamia and Rosetta

[woven haven]

both

[strong pelican]

[woven haven]

no qu = rip ice
no wata = no future for your fire team ever

or your void team pre wanshi

[strong pelican]

I guess I’ll pull wata first

how much pull per patch normally?

[vapid ocean]

does the positioning of memories matter? beyond what stats they have i guess

[hazy sandal]

Sometimes

[vapid ocean]

hm

[rose yew]

only matter if you care about that 3.9% increase in stats

[hazy sandal]

You’ll decide by yourself when you feel the urge to do so

Mostly PPC issue

[vapid ocean]

alright

[wispy robin]

Qu patch has about 11k

[strong pelican]

[rose yew]

11000 pulls?!

[spiral merlin]

Didn’t wata banner end like
A few hours ago

[rose yew]

skibidi sigma that's absolutely cinema

[strong pelican]

DAMN WHAT

[spiral merlin]

💀

[spiral merlin]

It might be kurover for you

[rose yew]

dw you don't need him anyway

unless you missed out brs too

[strong pelican]

I missed out everything. only have Lamia

[wispy robin]

Time to suffer till ish patch standard reset

[rose yew]

oh you're cooked then

how do you have lamia but not brs

[strong pelican]

I just started playing like week ago. Lamia from standard banner

[rose yew]

oh makes sense

[woven haven]

@spiral merlin i hate lilith kit so much honestly

[wispy robin]

Be glad for the speedup because solo luna is no fun
At least wanshi comes earlier

[spiral merlin]

It seems kinda underwhelming and basic

[woven haven]

it is

literally its just capri 2.0

[spiral merlin]

[ripe stag]

11000 PULLS ?!

UWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

[woven haven]

2 3p -> ult1 -> repeat core until finished -> ult2

Wow where have we heard that before

Surely not another free dark amp

[spiral merlin]

Dark amp 2 it only makes sense that it’s capri 2

[wispy robin]

More basic kits pls no need for more ish tier bs

[woven haven]

At least she can 4guin

But wow she
killed scire and herself in ion
killed 21 in light (unintentional side effect of overlooking a part of her kit)
killed capri in dark
nerfed sss ishmael

[wispy robin]

Wait what's the deal with light now

[woven haven]

lilith has an unfortunate design oversight

that lets her pemanently change to light amp without needing to swap back onfield

needless to say
that means 21 got collateral dmg

[rose yew]

feral got replaced?

[woven haven]

its 100% getting patched next beta ver

because this wasn’t intended

[wispy robin]

Aint no way they killing my daughter before daren

[woven haven]

daren also dead in ion

[wispy robin]

Still have to suffer in dark tho

[rose yew]

just get 3s daren

[wispy robin]

I just hope they double lilith rot time so daren not worth swapping in

[dapper skiff]

Dark thermal field:

[rose yew]

after saying not to ping Violet I almost pinged Violet myself

[raw swift]

epitah banner gone

[dapper skiff]

Yay

[raw swift]

new version coming on?

[dapper skiff]

Next Wednesday or something

[last blade]

bruh thats so long

why dont they keep epitaph until then

[raw swift]

5 days ggs

[little laurel]

guys i just connected my pgr acc to my fb but when I logged in again i was back to the start

i just lost all my progress 😦

[dapper skiff]

Did u bind first

Or just login through FB in login screen

[little laurel]

no i signed up using fb

[ashen edge]

[little laurel]

but when i logged in I back to 0

[dapper skiff]

Then log out back and login to guest account

That's where your progress is

[little laurel]

okay

[steady otter]

[rose yew]

kurai helping?

[little laurel]

ill finish tutorial first till i could log out

[dapper skiff]

U need to bind you acc in profile first with the designated fb acc and login with it

[little laurel]

okay

[dapper skiff]

Signing up with Facebook that never had pgr account on it will give you a fresh start like what u said

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/interrupt-bo1-cat-connection-slow-gif-13736345

[dapper skiff]

If you want to still use that fb acc for current acc, gotta ask CS or something to unbind

[orchid vault]

Man wth is this

[solid kraken]

Liv for You

[orchid vault]

How the heck my watanabe epitaph did more dmg despite having 1k difference in total power hes got 6,6k i got 5,346

[dapper skiff]

Here's the thing

[sleek basin]

Lifu

[orchid vault]

Can anybody explain

[dapper skiff]

Bp never meant anything since the first place

[orchid vault]

Oh hell naw

[dapper skiff]

Bp is just random numbers they slap on each unit that tells nothing about how built a Chara is

[orchid vault]

Im just two hundred

TWO HUNDRED BLUE TICKETS AWAY FROM ANOTHER TEN BASIC DRAWS HOW TO GET MOR

[orchid vault]

So its just weird generated numbers?

[dapper skiff]

U can have high BP character with absolutely useless equipment

That buffs nothing

[orchid vault]

He got the sig tho

[orchid vault]

Also help on dis one too

[dapper skiff]

It just how much equipment u chara equipped in total including, whether it's correct or most useless set they can have

[orchid vault]

Oh and btw since i got Liv Empyrea and Watanabe Epitaph should i pull Lee instead of lamia in basic im 30/60 pity

[dapper skiff]

No

Lee is trash

[orchid vault]

Naw

Whose gonna be my fire teams main dps then im new btw

[dapper skiff]

It's wata

Wata with f2p lee in the team isn't any better than wata without f2p lee

[orchid vault]

Wth his a tank tho

[sleek basin]

So what

[orchid vault]

So should i wait for mommy Pyroath to come then?

[dapper skiff]

Yeh

[sleek basin]

At one point main dps in fire was an amp

[rocky wedge]

empy can function as sub dps for sure after leap

[orchid vault]

Im saving for Qu Shakra then even tho i only have a level 1 Hypnos as a tank 💀

[orchid vault]

Let me guess Liv Empyrea?

[sleek basin]

Yup
Back in 2023

[rain rose]

who's weapon is this? I got it from co-op and wanted to recycle it

[dapper skiff]

Bambinata

[rain rose]

the dancing girl?

[orchid vault]

@sleek basin should i pull the new ice dps frame?

[sleek basin]

Qukra? Ofc

[orchid vault]

Bu-but i only have watashi hypnos for ice team..

[sleek basin]

You don't skip units in pgr, unless they're free from some other resources (like dorm commissions)

[orchid vault]

Im new so yeah

[orchid vault]

Hows my current savings can u rate it?

[restive grove]

speedrun all stories rn

[sleek basin]

^

[orchid vault]

Wdym by that im stuck on uhh the uhhhh the uhh Ascendant story

[ripe stag]

Use Changyu as tank bruh

[little laurel]

i see so youre stuck on the uhh

[orchid vault]

I have chang yu

[ripe stag]

use him

[orchid vault]

And watashiwa kira yoshikage

[ripe stag]

Who

[orchid vault]

I dont have his 5 star tho i sacrificed the three free 5* packs for watas 5 star cuz im f2p but its alr

[orchid vault]

Hypnos

[ripe stag]

SSS ?

[orchid vault]

S lng po

A or s lemme cwck

[restive grove]

luna's?

[ripe stag]

There's a guide in the pins
You can check that if you like

Deleted the images of builds

From my phone

Qukra patch update will be more than 5gb

I'm dead

[restive grove]

theres another tab at the bottom in story section if u already finished

[orchid vault]

Nah they both A

[orchid vault]

Yeah

[sleek basin]

128gb phones have no rights

[orchid vault]

They both A 😭

[ripe stag]

Hm?

[restive grove]

128gb? bruh i still have 16gb 💀

[orchid vault]

Luckily mines 254 but i got wuwa and genshin and codm and ml on da same phone

[ripe stag]

How is PGR even in your phone ?

[orchid vault]

They both a ranked 💀😭

[restive grove]

i dont
i use pc

[sleek basin]

[ripe stag]

Which characters

[orchid vault]

Send Qilin build pls

[orchid vault]

Wanshi and Qilin

[ripe stag]

4 dv 2 Eins

Get Qilin to S atleast

And use Kaleido instead of Wanshi

Kaleido is free from Dormitory Commissions

[orchid vault]

Oh shi luckily i got two eins from wata

[ripe stag]

You don't have excuse

[orchid vault]

Bu-but I WANT ECHO GRRR

[restive grove]

b-but it'll take long time to get her 😔

[ripe stag]

Get Wanshi to S and same for Qilin

So that you can upgrade their class skill

[ripe stag]

Hypercopium Qukra team

[orchid vault]

How can i get them to S tho

[ripe stag]

Pull 1 copy

Or farm shards from shard farming stage

[orchid vault]

Fire dps team finna be so op when Pyroath drops

[raw swift]

Oh dear the alpha simps are coming for zani already😭

[orchid vault]

I rather farm than pull two unwanted chars

[ripe stag]

Fire is already cooked to perfection

[raw swift]

What

[ripe stag]

They are A ranks duh
You get them randomly

[raw swift]

Oh right fair

[ripe stag]

[orchid vault]

Watch Pyroath cook every frame in lore shes on the same tiers as the watchers or observers idek

[raw swift]

No she's not

[ripe stag]

No?

She's dead

[orchid vault]

Idc

[ripe stag]

Lorewise

[raw swift]

She got destroyed by ishmael bruh

[orchid vault]

Yeah she died but when she was fighting sigma boy she is

[raw swift]

Not observer level

[orchid vault]

I called ishmael sigma cuz hes drip on top

[raw swift]

He???

[orchid vault]

Oh whose the mask guy?

The one with uhh a golden mask he looks so "sigma"

[restive grove]

nuget

[raw swift]

Vonugget

But seriously his name is Vonnegut

[ripe stag]

?

Pyroath is lorewise irrelevant too

[dapper skiff]

Nugget

[orchid vault]

Wait nugget is scaled too?

[raw swift]

We dunno

[ripe stag]

He's one of the highest ranking Ascnet Agents

[orchid vault]

Uhhh in yalls opinion is Pyroath the coolest frame?

[raw swift]

I like qukra more

[orchid vault]

Can i cosplay him?

How tall is bro first

[raw swift]

No one's stopping you

[ripe stag]

She's one of the worst by design

[ripe stag]

Literally is not Lucia

[orchid vault]

Im 184ish and im 14 no cap

[restive grove]

ew a minor

[orchid vault]

Effects and gameplay wise tho?

[restive grove]

ban

[raw swift]

We don't know but his boss model is like 7'0+ it seems

[ripe stag]

Gameplay wise
Worst to handle

Effect wise
Mid

[orchid vault]

Nah get outta here i love pgr

[ripe stag]

You saw Ishmael ?

Epitaph?

[restive grove]

if only tho

[ripe stag]

Even CW has cleaner animations than Pyroath

Imo the cleanest in Gen 3 is Hanying's

[orchid vault]

Oh hell naw im only 6 foot at 14 im cooked im never reaching 7

[short coyote]

Question regarding character rank up; is it very hard to get to sss+ if you miss their banner? I have wata at sss, but I forgot that yesterday was the last day for his banner, and I don’t think the ppc shards are going to be enough

[raw swift]

I'm looking deeper, this man is ATLEAST 9'0

Lucia is like half his size

[orchid vault]

Uhh epitaphs effects for me r good but gameplay wise is kinda middish but i love his gameplay

[raw swift]

But I think otherwise he shouldn't be that tall

[ripe stag]

https://tenor.com/view/hanying-pgr-pgr-hanying-hanying-pgr-ult-gif-9635544102985002506

[raw swift]

Compared to other gen 2 he's better than them

[restive grove]

every boss ingame model are always taller than it meant to be

[raw swift]

Right I'm thinking about that now

But he doesn't look much taller than 6'

[restive grove]

except alpha

[ripe stag]

Unless you are a gigawhale
You won't even SSS+ 99% of the S ranks

F2P? You barely SSS 3 base S ranks who are free and in meta....that too with actually Aizen level planning.

A ranks are easy to SSS+

[raw swift]

Still short

[raw swift]

There is 1 person in the entirety of asia server (excluding tw, cn, jp, and kr) that has everyone SSS+

[ripe stag]

I'm 7 at 20 years

7 km

[vague nebula]

zeratu?

[raw swift]

Yeah

[ripe stag]

Yes I'm a Titan shifter so what ?

[short coyote]

So sss+ is purposely designed to be difficult unless you spend an insane amount of money. Thank you! I was doing the math to get to sss+ and it just seemed so unreasonable, and I thought maybe I was doing something wrong

[vague nebula]

i thought xenolao too has all s+ but maybe not

[raw swift]

ss3 with sig can get you to like hero-legend if you have the right rots

[restive grove]

zera may have all S+ but not all r3

[little laurel]

transfer into titan then and be naked

[short coyote]

I’ll just stop at sss for wata then. Maybe it was actually a good thing that I forgot his banner ended yesterday

[vague nebula]

[raw swift]

Are u f2p?

[rose yew]

so teddy's patch up next

does she have a cub I forgor

[short coyote]

Good to know sss+ isn’t required then. Thank you!

[vague nebula]

theres no teddy patch migu chan

[rose yew]

I call it teddy patch since its merged in tgt with qu patch

[ripe stag]

You are too skill issue if you even need SS3

[deft apex]

Luna teddy bridget patch

[ripe stag]

SS0 + sig can hero legend

[short coyote]

Not f2p, but I am a newbie and I did buy the monthly a and battle pass (the bigger one)

[raw swift]

ss3 compensate for skill issue cause ss0 is a bit harder

[raw swift]

Don't get anyone SSS

[ripe stag]

No it's not
Most SS3 doesn't even change the character much

[raw swift]

Most of the time you'll only be able to afford their sig if even that

[vague nebula]

migu chan its only qu patch then its gonna be teddy

[raw swift]

Dark for scire

Assuming you have sss capuccino

[vague nebula]

I call ss3 rank as scam3 rank

[rose yew]

I don't like waiting for farming patch

[raw swift]

But for the most part ss0 and sig will get you to hero-legend consistently

[fresh hill]

lilith flux team

G.O.A.T

[raw swift]

Just 1 more patch for a year...

[rose yew]

that's like 3 episodes of skyblocks

[ashen edge]

not really if you save bunches of ticket and constantly topping up RC

[short coyote]

Thank you for the advice, I’ll not do that for the other characters. I only did it for wata cause I really liked him and he was the reason I started playing the game. I’ve already decided to only get one copy of the other s ranks and maybe just try to collect their shards in other ways.

[ripe stag]

Guys

[ripe stag]

Lilith Electroconvergence works better than Daren ?

[ashen edge]

she recharged affix point faster ye

[ripe stag]

NICE

FINALLY

[ashen edge]

and constant lightning buff

[fresh hill]

It is faster and can even cause “FLUX damage even in the process of charging the battery.”

[ripe stag]

UWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

[rose yew]

don't ping the entire na region again

[short coyote]

Constantly topping up sounds hard though. I guess I’ll just stop at one copy from now on

[orchid vault]

@ripe stag any upcoming cool asf char with mind droopingly cool effects and op cool gameplay?

[vague nebula]

[raw swift]

With monthly a pass with BP won't get you the sigs reliably, i mean you're lucky now because qu's patch gives like 11k bc

[ripe stag]

Ping who ?

[vague nebula]

[ripe stag]

Yea
Everyone

[orchid vault]

Plz help anyone and why the heil is bro so short

[raw swift]

He doesn't belong in that team lol

[orchid vault]

E v e r y o n e ?

[short coyote]

That’s so cute. He’s like half their height

[raw swift]

Yes

Isn't liv around changyu's height

[short coyote]

Do you also like wata?

[orchid vault]

Its a story mode

[raw swift]

She's only that tall because of floating

[rose yew]

liv's hair is longer than changyu height

[woven haven]

but the 14 mil ion wz run on bili didn’t ult at all, just core and out

[orchid vault]

Recommend me a char that is coming that i would love for the rest of pgrs history

[raw swift]

Oh.. haven't finished chapter 27 yet

[vague nebula]

yes

[ripe stag]

Shota

[raw swift]

Qu

[short coyote]

That’s a lot! Wow! 11k bc! Hooray!

[orchid vault]

Sadly Qus motivation and power isnt enough.

[raw swift]

Then we're gonna go into gear 2 and have 2 patches in 6 weeks so we catch up to cn

[ashen edge]

she doesn't use ult in the 14mil run, you simply charge the affix point then swap out

[short coyote]

Yay! Another wata enjoyer!

[ripe stag]

You........started PGR for CW ?

[raw swift]

Don't make me do this again

[orchid vault]

Therefore. I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING

[ripe stag]

With this treasure

I summon

[orchid vault]

i summon Vergil

[rose yew]

why are you surprised

[raw swift]

I started because of Selena Cappricio and Qu Pavo

[vague nebula]

[ripe stag]

@silk tendon

[orchid vault]

Nah i played this gamr mainly for Vergil And Watanabe and CW and Pyroath

[short coyote]

I’m not looking forward to this at all. I don’t even have a proper team yet 😢

[ripe stag]

If you wanna play Vergil
Why not go play DMC 5 ?

[rose yew]

this demon inside has a hold of me
clenching it's power truing to break free

[ripe stag]

[raw swift]

Actually it'll be better since we're gonna get more characters quicker

[ripe stag]

Smh

[orchid vault]

Bro doesnt understand im mob only

[ripe stag]

What mob ?

[orchid vault]

Now recommend me a upcoming frame i would love

[ripe stag]

You are a mob character of your own life story

[orchid vault]

Uhhh just mobile

[vague nebula]

just save all bc for dmc collab

[ripe stag]

Everyone

[rose yew]

dmc5 collab is something you can't miss

[ripe stag]

Go watch Vergil videos and stay happy

[orchid vault]

Yeh of coutse

[ripe stag]

[ripe stag]

I'll miss it intentionally

[orchid vault]

i said cooler than Qu Shakira Shakira

[vague nebula]

I wonder if this is the patton vera guy

[slender spoke]

hi is there a summary on how the speed up will be done?
are my funds in jeopardy is the better question ig xD

[ripe stag]

Qu shukra doesn't pique your interest? Wtf are you into bruh

[rose yew]

for detailed version, it's pinned
TLDR, we don't know

[ripe stag]

Not yet but they'll not jeopardize funds

[slender spoke]

gotchu

[orchid vault]

Nah shes peaking my interest over pyroath a lil now but idk whose cooler

[slender spoke]

oh didn't realise pin was updated thks

[deft apex]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-lucia-lucia-pgr-pgr-lucia-punishing-gif-7940593225601612831

[rose yew]

yeah I don't check pins myself either

[ripe stag]

You pull everyone and skip no one in PGR my guy

[ripe stag]

Looks so bad

[vague nebula]

joe mama

[deft apex]

Ok hater

[ripe stag]

https://tenor.com/view/hanying-pgr-pgr-hanying-hanying-pgr-punishing-gif-11055123097379557126

Would love to get stabbed by her

[deft apex]

Hanying is literally the midest of the releasing characters

[orchid vault]

I KNEW IT PYROATH ON TOP

[deft apex]

On par with lilith rn

[raw swift]

I need her for a proper team

[orchid vault]

PYROATH >>>> EVERYTHING IN PGR IM DIPPING SO NO DEBATES

[short coyote]

I’m still worried about clearing all the new content though, cause the only reliable dmg dealer I have is watanabe.

[rose yew]

brs doko

[deft apex]

I knew you'd goon

[raw swift]

As much as I love plume and the past lotus, pyroath is just not it

Not to say that she's bad but I don't feel the same as I do with plume

[deft apex]

I dont like her 2d sprite or pfps

[ripe stag]

Then don't ask
Just brick yourself and leave the game

The restart

[deft apex]

Her 3d model is a plume improvement for me, in spite of the ass crack

[orchid vault]

Dis shi is so cool whoever hates Dis frame jus likes simple frames

[orchid vault]

No im still pulling every upcoming frames but i rlly just like pyroath

[short coyote]

Are you talking about the brs collaboration? I wasn’t here for that so I missed it 😢

[vague nebula]

she is flying but her hitbox is on the ground so any grounded enemy can hit her. PeAk DeSigN

[stark magnet]

yk, for balancing

[raw swift]

It's just a pain

[orchid vault]

U know what

[raw swift]

Kuro whyy

[orchid vault]

Im gonna GO FOR QU SHUKRA SHES SO MIND DROOPINGLY OP I SWEAR I SEEN A SHOWCASE

[rose yew]

yeah
don't worry it's getting a rerun after dmc5

they gotta keep the fire lit for longer

[raw swift]

Just wait till you realise everyone else is mind droopingly op

[orchid vault]

Shukras cooler than everyone in pgr tho

She slayed🔥

[raw swift]

That's literally what I told you at first

[raw swift]

[orchid vault]

Well i havent seen a Qu Shukra gameplay back then

[ripe stag]

Try to use that combo when it comes out btw
Having a taste of it will make you realise hopefully why everyone who used her hates her

[orchid vault]

I changed my mind Qu Shukra>>>

[raw swift]

Qu solo is definitely something

[ripe stag]

Everything she has is a core passive in itself

[ripe stag]

Worst experience I had after CW solo kekw

[stark magnet]

oh my god

aint reading allat

[ripe stag]

This isn't even the biggest btw

[raw swift]

Please kuro stop making light novels for character kits

Who's the longest

[orchid vault]

Burn that shi down

[ripe stag]

Ishmael has the longest core passive and qte description in this game currently

[ripe stag]

@raw swift @stark magnet

[last blade]

is the rotation easy tho?..

[ripe stag]

Her QTE looks like it has its own core passive

[orchid vault]

Is ishmael cooler than Qu: Shukra?

[stark magnet]

can believe theres a day i have to learn combos in a gacha game

[ripe stag]

Kinda but very much in need to timing and precision to hit swap to Ion while doing fire and fire while doing ion

[ripe stag]

Qukra

Needs

Combos

Wata needs combos

Everyone needs combos in gen 2 and 3

[stark magnet]

nah i just spam number 1 with watah