#📨・meta-help
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she replaces 21 and rozen solo lamia i think
6s elite hamlet run
its barely possible without harmo but yeah
test elite get removed on luna anyway
mb im blind
but wtf giga smart using empy blue to avoid shark dodging
is that SSS3
She can do those kinds of kills
https://youtu.be/9ICUEnb2rv4
最終区
サメピー[狂暴]
00:00 騎士
00:15 混沌
00:32 地獄
輝ける行進者
00:52 騎士/混沌
01:11 地獄
ブードゥー
01:33 騎士〜地獄
鏖戦区
01:53 氷区
02:38 空区
ye
zaza strat

ok smart guy


tempest, no doubt
What does harmo Tempest even do?
hi
10% edb from koya harmo 

so she really seems like a specialized unit for min maxing ppc but wont replace any of the meta fire/dark/ice/phys/light wz teams ?
i mean duh cuz shes a void unit
Oh wait I didnt know u played CN

recent thing 
I still dont understand what Harno does for uniframe?
I see
I thought void introduced more wz variations sowwy

It does introduce a lot of variations...for void wz only lol
ohhh its independant?
its literally just another element
Luna herself enables lots of different compositions with her
Nihil 
But she doesn't offer any particular value to other teams
so does WZ stay in rotation with void added or is there another 3rd WZ ?
She just has lots of options to build void around herself
Dude its just another element
There's no permanent zone
weird void comp 
Oh I already have 6s in test and elite Hamlet so I could care even less xD
Its just in rotation like any other
DV luna
zaza build
if it works it works
yea its just to free up a balter ap



Time to swipe
U only need 250 bc for a reso
How long would it take to max out DFM from scratch?
Im critically low on HT rn so I need everyhting I can get
I've done maybe 8 runs total and I'm lvl 70
So like 3 hours?
So maybe 10 ~ 13 runs to max?
You can do a run or two a day, or no life it while listening to a podcast/audio book on the weekend.
dfm is hell 
would say 5-6 probably, depends
there are also a decent amount of levels from the quests iirc
Well, I have the patch bonus so probably need more
You have to do diff 1 to unlock diff 2 to unlock diff 3
Chill
I did it in about 4 days, two weeks ago. I played it for about 2 hrs a day not too try hárding or sweaty such, and only used lamia or stigmata based on the memys you get early
I switch character I play to get exp on them
Next patch is the last patch DFM gets updated or is there more?
There are more I believe
Goddamit
I see more lines on the sheet
I hate these rouglikes
I spent 3 hrs on his account to do 28 levels on dfm and 22 on cw, although dfm was from 0 so probably spent more time on that
Isn't there another one on Lucia patch too????
Kill me 
They are NOT fun bro
Skill issue
counterpoint, they are fun
Skill issue
It's not even skill issue they're just long and boring
i envy your wrong mindset they're fun
You just suck

I regularly still play dfm cursed waves and rdf even though I maxed them out a long time ago
Wdym suck I can clear it fine

Your mental is weak
Sometimes
No sht I have crippling ADHD
It's a real good day if I actually have the motivation to do smth and stick w it
if you go fast yeah ig
i would say closer to 15-20 for an average run but i tend to pick more battle nodes so that its comfortable
adhd so fun 
ADHD doesn't make you find things boring, that's just you personally
It doesn't make things boring, I just am incapable of sticking to them
I know its a often asked question but who do I pull with my 40 pity guaranteed S rank? Do I pull a dps as a newbie or can i go for any amplifier or tank
Yeah, hence back to the original point
They're fun and you're just skill issued about it 
awakening tundra lets u skip fight
Lamia
Do u have Epitaph
and the exp per run is capped anyway so u can avoid unnecesary battle
Nah I dont only Rosetta
it also come with big mommy -tidies


How much BC u have
Can't miss epitaph bro
6700 BC with 5600 event ticket
Pull for him
Get him when he comes out in 2 patches
I could get him RN and get Lee Hyperreal for a fire team?
No Hyperreal is bad rn
You have Empy?
❗
If you can get watanabe right now on the themed banner yes but don't waste ur pulls on hyperreal
Pull Epitaph
If u don't get him, save ur standard select for him
If u do get him, I think I would still save the standard select to see if u get Qukra or not

what is snapdragon 8
Like a phone chip
Phone chip
can u even make phone pgr 120 fps
CPU I think?
thought it capped at 60 in the settings
yea cpu
Yea but Snapdragon 8 Elite will have frame generator
Works for WuWa, PGR, Genshin, ZZZ

Good thing I dont play mobile games
I'm still using 8 yrs old phone
why not just build a pc rather than buying a phone with that chipset
WuWa can consistently 120FPS as much as Qualcomm (the company who made Snapdragon chipset) is claiming
why not just build a pc rather than buying a phone with that chipset
Portability
laptop ?
Laptops are typically more expensive then PCs at the same spec range
Don't ask
That's my throne of heroes

I play pgr on the sacred seat
Mobile gaming for the need to play literally anywhere is a good indicator of brainrot
THEY USED WUWA AS EXAMPLE
can you look at the images again
Why is that

Welcome to
Idfk
It's probably WuWa by miHoYo
But still WuWa

Is that actually what shorekeeper looks like
bro thats clearly edited
idk why u fall for the bait
There's no way bruh
Idk
I see the edit now

For harmo and or buying 6* memories

Where is the shop for it
don't use it for the shop
bruh
Battle > resources > to the memories stage > shop in the bottom left
Prioritise harmo first over memories cuz each harmo memory is 1200 of those tops
i'm too old to understand these mobile specs 
wait till he plays lucia
i actually enjoyed it doing with wata 
Well you can actually use the shop bc CR rewards give more than you need for harmo unless you're doing multiple harmo sets per character
I can't find it-
This processor is basically gonna give the same performance as rtx 3050
Do you have AE5 unlocked
not like i can afford such a phone
I'm lvl 102 so ig I prolly do

I'll wait for Iqoo's phone
Gonna be in 700 USD range
He already did...
too much 
Battle screen > resources > first option > AE 05
I have a low range 5 year old phone
Playing PGR on 45fps does not feel good
Ye
How much hp does hell trailblazer have
Its memory shop after alp
AE 05 isn't there for you?

i prefer pc, but pgr at least works on mobile, when i need it
||ag is lagging af tho||
So that currency can't be used for anything else
Nope
AG lags now ?
Bruh
Just memories and harmo
on my phone
Weird
redmi note 10s
Cuz AG is has similar performance for me as PGR gen 1
not the lowest settings tho
You can't buy harmo
You need this to unlock memories after unlocking the harmo slot for a signature weapon
Btw
Are you in my bracket ?
i haven't checked yet
let me see
I remember harmonizing Alisa
What I meant to say is that resources shop is only for memory right?
@shadow holly what resos for chaos tb?
You use different canister to unlock harmo. And you use that "top" to get the memory set on said harm9
Yes
Yeah I have 27 of those red things
But do not use those currency for memories
Eh
incan shred ml
no need for dlt but ig if you have r1 on pulse then you can run shred there
Just use that for harmo stuffs
Just get mem with your stamina/event shop
wait i got it, that was easier than knight wtf 

did u get knight too
yeah, i had to ulti 1 again to get it though 
nice
yeah i malded it again today and it wasnt fun
idk where ur lacking damge tho

9s hell darkshark with wata?
S+ lamia
wata can do it too but i didnt know the strat so i did with lamia
Ah, I can only do 10s on lamia
wata strat is what shuen did for chaos
empy blue abuse to bind shark
i didnt even think about that
yeah demon is s+ wata tho so he can replicate
No
we're playing in different servers, no? 
i don't see any shi-yori anyway
3s3
oh 

staring at yukihax's 11s hell tb at .5x speed
I'll take 10s its fine
i might have to go .25x
forced timer bug on an sp delay kill
Its physical limitation xD
It shouldn’t be this close

So many Ishamel pfps on CN holy
As it should be
ishmael mommy


swap>dodge>basic>3ping>dodge>basic>3ping+ult1>basic>spam blaze orb
u need to trigger matrix during 2nd blaze orb
can u do it with DLT?
7 orbs and hoping for 2x3p 
i havent tried i was short dmg with pulse without dlt, its not that bad to get 2x3p


this is the bar i see every try 
Whats the reason to do the pings in basic form? Does 4p cottie run out or sonething
for hell tb?
Yeah
need 5x blaze to do enough
thats for 5stacks sss wata only
Whels
But theres no difference to doing the pings in ult form right?
because you can cancel the last one by ult1
there is, the window to trigger parry u can only hold 3blaze orbs
In cn terms yes
But normally you cancel the swap in so its the same as dodge canceling anyway isnt if
basically considering ur doing 3 bullet stacks you would have to do 2 3pings and dodge thrice overall
like this you're only dodging twice
Like whether you cancel swap with ult or cancel another 3p with ulg
and insta cancelling the 2nd 3ping with ult1
Either way you're cancelling one 3p with ult
??why
They wrote dodge cancel for swap in
look try it urself in game
and you'll understand
I don't have sss wata
dodge cancel for swap in? why?
I cant do this anyway LOL
you dont have to have sss to dodge cancel
can't u just ul1 swap in
Lamia is busy in this week ppc xD
literally emulate the clear on ur wata and you'll see the diff
Thats the strat they wrote out
in time
I dont think i have the damage to replicate this
for example u do one 3ping on normal form and do one 3ping on ult form, the moment u start spamming blaze orb, tb will parry the 1st blaze orb instead of second blaze
you cant just press buttons?

^yeah also gotta match the parry timing
I can press the buttons but i dont know if I'd see the difference in a clear

I understood the parry part of the logic
I just wanted to know what trs was going on about
if he parry 1st blaze i cant get 5stacks

I genuinely don't understand
this feels like dshit for wata instead of cw 
Yes

If swap normally gives bullet, and you normally ult cancel swap bullet, but this strat is dodge cancelling swap instead and using ult to cancel a different bullet, is that not still the same amount of dodges
You're just moving the ult cancel somewhere else aren't you
.
can you not comprehend me just being stupid and miscounting dodge cancels
Sarcastic thing

Like "i dont wanna deal with this convo anymore so just pretend you're right" thing
but yeah idk how the game works that it makes tb attack later if you do the pings before ult1
because technically youre spending the same amount of time right
but also pings before ult1 allow for proper double qte which is also a bonus cuz its more damage because you get better 4guin buff coverage
im too obnoxious to just give up like that

Just say "it feels more convenient" and give no room to elaborate
I usually do the 4guin ping early anyway because uhhhh
I'm still using nanamech so i do insta 3blue before swap
Laugh in r2 pulse
rhythm is u can do fast click except a bit delay between dodge and basic
its not that bad from my experience i got 2 11s run under 15mins
so I have my dorm maxed out, and can buy more spots with coins but have no more units to fill them. Is there any reason in terms of dorm currency to get the NPC units to fill them?
I feel rich
I am a returning player
Should I keep this account or start from the beginning? Please help me out
Not a necessary reason but you can get more gifts xD
You could probably start over and get better S rank from selectors
Start over
You'll have better S ranks
depends on whether your luna is from standard banner rateup selector or from random pity
i can't get 11s
it keeps going to 12
Guess what
none of them look good
Probably neither
its from selector
yeah start over
I see Luna.
Yea just reset
Yeah start over
Returnee so probably took laurel from selector item
One of the best ult symbols tbf
needed to get the hook parry in
glad my bshark was pretty slack
ill start over but where can I find a tier list?
Which character should I pick from the starter selector once i start over all again @crimson hill @ripe stag
10s chaos because i need full 3rd blaze damage anyway, and hell i just copy the 11s tb run
There's no tier list in PGR
Just pull who's the latest as F2P
As for Selectors
Small options in selector - pick Entropy
Lots of options - pick Rosetta Rigor
@sand dome is your wata 12 HT with shake and darwin harmo?
Use the Standard Banner selector (do not spend black cards) on Lamia Lost Lullaby
bro hes not gonna get wata atp
use it on wata

yep , i have many disc spare to harmo darwin
He has to save for 2 patches
Without any actual DPS for any content
Okay
yeah and? epiitaph goes away in what like 3 days bruh
he'll have shukra as dps next patch
how many times did you take to get to 10 from 11?
Check this pin I guess #📨・meta-help message
i started malding this 1 hr 30 min ago
finally finished
💀
We need a character like Francesca Prelati in PGR
Playable that is
how long will I need to use the A rank characters?
Til you replace with s rank
any S ranks?
go back and get 9s
The relevant one

whats ur ap split
im debating to do sharky or tb first and going to accept nothing but 1% lol
Theres like a fake tier list for character of each element team
also is there a way to delete the account?
yes
I cant find the option
should be in the settings
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SusxJ3tYwsBqY3dPwJ9BG2tDW0ox5GqVJgGZHYnAqa8/edit?usp=sharing
Is this fake tier list?
Its not outdated u bum ass
balt cw balt wata lamia
balt balt wata wata wata
balt lamia lamia lamia lamia
holy core kill?
I even have a cn version

no its outdated
So u cant even joke about no hanying
nah I'm pretty sure its outdated


ur s+ harmo
It a war I guess
Cuz global?
core kill for u ig

Its real info
Its "fake tier list" because "tier list" as a concept is not super applicable to pgr
So it is actually just a bunch of mini tier lists for each element and role
Oh nvm thanks man I need that tier list as I love meta.
Meta = fun
Theres a cn tab
You can still merge with me and we become s+

You blind af xD
I put tier list in the title specifically to direct the newbies like you that want a tier list, to look at that sheet


Maybe if I call myself Herman I can reach 6M
void slacking waduhel
Germany darkest hours
But that's better
Komrade
wow
Void is a casual guild
yes we are casual
I have controller issue. Cant ping fast
I just go in and afk
Which is that?
hello, may i know wich guide i should follow about lamia rotation in wz?, still bit confused with the rotation
bs hell
With lamia?
ye
poverty gaming rotation
notes:
Dont do ult2 early, always wait for qte before doing ult2
Dont ping core orb during ult form, this will make you run out of orb
(initial)
loop1 → loop2 → repeat
If 3ping before ult 2 is red orb (no other option) you can do Hold AA + red qte before doing ult2 + qte to ensure you trigger your dv holder on blue too
...
this one can applied on wz too right?
yes
alright
It's strange that ppl only ask for a rot on 1 char in WZ
It atleast makes sense for lamia
Well 99% of players dont have swap invest for dark so

Hmm true
Is holding off on using your voucher right now the best thing to do?
Yes
When should I start using them?
Well
I don't see SS3 Daren users beating lamia solo users in this server
When Wanshi Lucid Dreamer comes out
Buy 20 of his shards every month till SSS rank
You can use ppc skulls to boost if you can afford
Garnet in 1 patch
Empy in 2
Scire in 5
Wanshi in 6
Stigmata in 7
CW in 9
Lilith (i think?) in 10-11
And glb is getting accelerated patch schedule so these will come even faster than normal
@simple basin
I see lilith coming out today in beta test 
Damn I can get shards for scire nice
I am a returning player
Should I keep this account or start from the beginning? Please help me out

Well go read the convo then
Wait
Another returnee with nearly identical account?
Bruh
Oh that's the same dude
it's prob the same acc bruh

smh acc sharing ban doko
Hey?? It’s diffrent account!!! It’s different player!!
Wait
It's not the same player
Yea so
Reset
💀

not same
🙂 but I got Garnet
Abt to be replaced in 3 months
It’s just 1 step up
And my black card…
Luccsacc on fate
Rip all those years of old days farming
Boy you get more than that by restarting imo
@carmine reef
Come Heather
Okie okie. If u say so
Wait get a professional help
Me no professional
I don't even play this game
I feel like I need metal therapy now
Everyone who plays PGR does

Sleep?
Not the game ZZZ
omg i did it 

Yes
It's alright, Kuro about to force me to quit anyways
im too old for this 
?
Why quit
Guys how should I split my AP
Accelerated schedule
Means faster events but bonus rewards
What bonus reward?
Yea there will 100% be compensation
finally u did it
took u long enough


Theres noway the compensation will make up for it xD
Compensation for the accelerated schedule
If the patches move faster with no compensation we lose out on BC, skulls, harmo, HT, etc
bs was way more cancerous with wata than i thought
u might have to revise ur ap
It has to or else people will complain way too muchb
and allocate some lamia ap to bs
? How bad could it be
5 CA, 5 Veritas, 5 Laurel
Thank me later
Yeah but I dont think it will
I can hit moving royal guards in wz this should be fine 
if u get close to her and try to hook blud will just dodge out of the way and not let u parry
Just wait

Nice node unlocks
That's why I'm being a hopeful pessimistic rn

surely itll be fine
If they don't compensate enough
sunk cost bro
Cuz I cant see how this will end well enough for me
I'm leaving as well
arent u a whale
I am still waiting
I'm leaving becuz I'm paying, yes
It's time for a new era of pgr whales/ malders

@lusty tendon help
S0 5* malders
If you fund me i will become the new generation, jeremy
now onto bs chaos and hell

I'll go to ZZZ
everyone migrate off PGR if it goes badly 
I'll go to MH Wilds xD
I'm using 3080ti, kinda copium but serviceable

Althou, I'm looking for sale to move to better stuffs too xD
Based on KR's update, theyre having 2 A rank patches and Luna in 1 update. Technically you get 3 patches worth of bundles to filter for an easy s+ luna. 
Waitimg for 50xx series, maybe 40xx series price will come down
why are these whales playing on a non 40xx card
and 3x to spend in 1 month

pure 
S+ Luna for only like $500
nvda gonna jack up prices wdym
Any word on compensation?
5 terb, noted

global has news? 
Don't know yet, will have to ask setsu/ empress
When will news come out for lilith and compensation

Probably wont know about compensation for another month
How's Jeremy supposed to know that

Lilith is for CN. The ones releasing info regarding early schedule that we are looking at is KR

100 series for 69420 dollars

Yeah but someone said lilith would come out for beta on Wednesday or Thursday
What does Lilith have to do with this though 
was excited for her
Maybe hes just asking 2 separate questions
She*

Just reset the account
You'll have more worth
KR got early news thanks to the influence of our supreme leader Kim
Lilith CN beta will be streamed by empress for convenient viewing
so the bundles are x3 in quantity but at the same RC: BC Rate?
Empress streams on YouTube, you can follow her
Empress is a woman???
Let me find her ch
yes
Korean pgr player
free advertisement is crazy

I wonder if there are any pgr streamers on afreeca
I just assumed everyone playing this game is a guy
Ok demon got it
Thats cause ur dumb
Yeeyyee already subscribed
No u
now we advertise altera only 
Advertise Shuen
everyone is a man on the internet
I will do free ads for trs
hi sir, you're late on your feet livestream release schedule
Friday btw

Hey everyone look at my pookie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT0N1w3ODs4



Altera do you live in Birsbane

how can we get this material ?
Liar
Im homeless 
AE5 or clash reflection
Clash Reflection and AE5
okey thanks
top resource stage 
He lives in the air you breath then 
Altera is covid
Altera is Mpox
wrong
I'm f2p
i am at 96 level and still i dont know lots of things 
So what i said
Hello son
Forced
2
Pay
who tf is that

Twingo Rolls royce Skoda
Gesundheit

filthy pilot
Zexius 
in cn there a convenient skip button for this thing
I Had the same problem on cn when this patch dropped
I didnt have any problem in glb anyway
Ffs
is it me or is phys wz hard to get 1m on?
both
it's not a problem, it's specific to the story node
think it's about them moving the joystick but the character isn't moving
Kuro: breaking the 4th wall* players: bug
Not just you, WZ variance must be higher this week.
Pray there aren't too many whels in your bracket.
this zone is ass
highest scores in legend are 2.5-2.6m and that's definitely saying something
i only have 900k on it rn and its definitely skill issue, but i swear i feel like i can push to 1m
*leader
I´m struggling at phys too but I have not practiced it enough and dont know when to swap 😓
It ain't helping that each wave has the hopping mech or royal guards, if you don't use your gather properly... there goes the wave, reset and try again.
All I can suggest, is read the sticky physical guide in the pins.

YEAH maybe skill issue, cuz i have that score without balter
What's your phys team then?
I coped on phys this rot, super painful
22.32 221 010 alpha/alisa/rose
Any chance you have a recording?
no i not like recording
and also nowaday not screenshoting my wz score
222 100 101 balter rosetta alisa
Sadge
I'd actually like to see OG Alpha in modern WZ
i refuse to fix roses resos till solacetune
u too
im still trying to give reds to wata and it has been almost 3 weeks doing so


the quadboots go crazy
IT ONLY WANTS TO GIVE ME BOOTS
quadboot new wata tech ????!!!!
I KNOW IM A PERMANENT CANADIAN RESIDENT BUT IM STILL BROWN AND DONT SAY ABOOT LIKE THE MAPLE LOVERS
except that he is in leader
eat my nuts Xeno
tf where do you live where people say aboot
The lack of Reso on Alisa certainly ain't helping

its a canadian stereotype
but ive heard one who actually said aboot
long time ago tho
im gonna have to fix my amps at some point yeah
all 2 of em
wait for lilith 
@hidden forum how do you 9s tb with uncle
which are the priority characters to SS with vouchers?
ngl first time hearing that and I've been here for almost 2 years now
same strat as 7s MD
going fast 
save ur vouchers
for...?
about that
i didn't malded MD
good
i was thinking Kaleido or Echo, but how many to buy them all of 1 character?
just swapin, insta ult, then basic + hold dodge instantly, spam blaze
main thing is getting fast enough swap in and perfectly timed parry so that you don't waste time
With the upcoming patch crunch, Wanshi, a "free" S rank ice tank is going to arrive much earlier, which is why you should save your vouchers.
also perfectly timing ult2 so that final blaze orb damage goes through but not too late 
dumbass kill
but lamia 9s shark is worse
i know, but my vouchers are enough to buy wanshi and someone else (who?)
alisa ig
why are u distributing them between characters?
Since you are f2p, and we don't know yet if f2p voucher income is being boosted, it's best to wait and see.
u should aim for sss wanshi for the long haul
uh, but getting him from dorm + vouchers is just SS
paincage?
dorm S
paincage SS
vouchers 20/90
then wait for monthly reset to finish him in 5 months time

You want Wanshi 3S to amp his damage, shred and 3 second swap cool down reduction, he ameliorates Qu's downsides significantly.
All this just for kuro to replace him just like he did with nanami
Obviously, new Selena is ice tank after all, males must be removed!
Oki got it 
wait i can't kill chaos smh
can
but that's where the cancer starts
you have to be fast enough that you get full blaze orb DMG
so you can't ult2 too early
and not too late
bugged timer
Chaos Configuration:
SSS+ Epitaph - 4 Alphons/2 Cottie 12 HT 6 Red Orb 6 Ult Reso SSS+ Pet 2 Cottie Harmo
Weapon - Diode Torch/Incandescence/Matrix Lightning
SSS+ Pulse - 4 Shakespeare/2 Eins 6 Tank Reso
Weapon -Diode Torch/Incandescence/Resonant Echo
SSS+ Empyrea - 4 DV/2 Guin 2 Amplifier Reso 2 Guin Harmo
Weapon - Superconduc...
i used wrong set
Empy 422 and pulse dv ein

this kill is pepega
i don't have marko speed
can't afford to let 3rd blaze orb animation to dmg tb

chapter 21 slight spoiler
any idea what is hapening here, centipede just went invisible and cant hit it
(restarted and pulled a hypereal by following the invisible path to skip the starting scenes
, this time boss didnt go awol )
Does wanshi rotate with Qu when they're both SS0?
yes
That's really nice
nice still managed to get 175w thanks to hamlet 
I'm guessing wanshi can do multiple rots/extend his rotation and that's why it works?
Qu can't 580k emperor at ss0?
double ult at ss0 5* achievable
rotation doesn’t change after
no, at least not without cub
Wata, at equal invest he already eclipses hyper's damage
but the dmg is astronomically different without sig, cub or sss
Thanks!
if u have kal with reso then probably should 580
Hmmm so he's functional with 5* just much weaker?
like a lot weaker
I´m trying to improve with Stigmata after reading many phys wz guides and vids, and trying to grok swordwave, but so many videos are really outdated. Can anyone tell me if this is the general idea that I do her waves 2-3 times before I ult? so I dont have a delay for matrix when I land?
like literally 40-50% of his total dmg comes from sig cub and sss
What's your stigmata invest exactly
Interesting I'm guessing ss3 is also good?
garbage
sss6 r3 harmonyd
Pain
Wanshi sig: Doubles core passive dmg (independent multiplier)
Wanshi CUB: 2.5x ult1 dmg,
1.5x ult2 dmg
Wanshi SSS: 45% shred -3s swap cd
both ults deal 1.5x more dmg (independent multiplier)
ult1 gains +60% dmg bonus on top
@shadow holly whats the new limit after qu patch for total recharge milestones
30k
He's basically getting the capri treatment except he actually does something at sub SSS+sig
20k for gameplay rewards only
I'm guessing lilith will be the same
also he’s the best scaling unit at sss3/sss6/sss+
cuz the buffs from those 3 ranks is almost undiluted
Interesting
They made sure to make the whels satisfied even with him being a free unit
Fair enough tbh
Btw does ss0 wanshi do better or worse in ppc than qu?
I'm guessing bosses like emperor will use both of them together?
I thöught the same thing like in wuwa vip only
you do one round of swordwaves and ult
Stigmata at ss3 and higher can perform dry rots without matrix
that's the whole point of running Cottie
otherwise you have a ton of dead time in your rots
i mean he’s still not dealing more dmg than qu at the same ranks so
what he gets is the most broken cub multiplier ever seen before

also refer to this guide @subtle zinc
literally can't find a better person to be your guide/ref for phys
Lmao yeah makes sense guess kuro just wanna make sure the free characters still have room to bring them some money
What's more important for wanshi between cub and sig?
If it's cub that'd be convenient considering the lower cost + 100% guarantee lol
im still never gonna use him, or use him as little as possible
you’re asking the one unit who there is no definitive answer rn
Good luck on warzone 😭
"or as little as possible"
Hmmmm interesting
cub is a much bigger dps increase than sig
sig has the harmo utility and resos
Ah true
qu runs out of steam like almost immediately
sig can get later while cub limited so should always prio cub for him
wanshi is literally the fk ing duct tape for her kit and still he didn’t fully fix her
if you want to avoid using wanshi be our guest but don’t complain about wz/ppc feeling like ass 
i mean idc as much, ill rotate but meh im s+ing qu anyways
Btw I've heard newer ppc bosses are balanced around duo-dps is that true?
yes

trust me you’ll care after a month of solo qu
Honestly sounds much more fun but also a problem for newer players lol
s+ fixes nothing
hehe I have both up! I guess I was just over thinking it but really I want to use this to extend time before qte or matrix because its better than autoing right? just the principle
she fixes me
i mean solo dps can still do it its just that at lower ranks its much better to run both tank and attacker dps
esp considering units like pyroath are off field dps
doesn’t make sense to solo if she runs out of steam before boss dies
if wanshi was the duct tape to qu’s garbage cardboard kit
wata is the legs to lucia’s kit
90% of her rotations and kit passives lose meaning once you solo without wata

wata walked so that lucia could
man i hate this so much
having to hold ult each time feels so annoying
I have SS Nanamech + Sig, isn't better if I use Wata Empy Nanamech intead of Wata Empy Lee?
Yes.
Yea might as well
Since u should be killing the boss on one unit before they run out of gas
She's only off field at ss3 though right?
Oh why's that? She just isn't good solo you mean?
I will try. Lee isn't doing it well.
shes the worst solo char in the game by far
literally Lee level solo
but have u played crimson abyss
if you fail to hold ult every 12s you have a hard 6s cd before you can re enter ult
and solo lucia doesn’t refund any orbs like qu does
Oh wow lmao
yea swordwaves do more damage plus it's a ton of energy regen from the SS3 passive
they did everything they possibly could to punish wata skippers
quite literally she’s an engine that screeches to a halt the moment you lose wata
just look at some actual 3s phys WZ vids
Even without those passives she's still reliant on wata+empy swaps right?
uncle is 3s, got 500 rc left over and bought out the shop, prayge i have enough for goth wifey
Even in paincage? (I imagine she just does enough dmg to destroy 90% of pain cage bosses though)
empy is a dv bot, as are most amps now
lamia, selena, empy, ayla, alisa all qte bots
why tf did i say lamia shes rent free in my head 
She still does fill dmg + f2p/light spender invests have to actually swap to her in wz from what I've seen
feral is the only slightly useful one iirc
Well Alisa and selena still do swap in wz too but yeah they're useless on field in ppc
Aether do u happen to have the Lilith banner details pasta
in cn right now i dont believe they do
Also feral iirc is just benched to pure qte bot after nanaknight iirc?
Yes they still do
Even at swap invests it's just back and forth between nami and cw
They are both CD stallers but yes
Yeah amps fell off lately so lilith will likely be the start of a new generation of amps that will be more field-worthy

just search in this channel
oh k
It's just kuro has to REALLY balance the new amps well because they'll either make attackers obsolete or won't be worth rotating
I think they learned how to do that tbh
Gen 3 tank swap cd reduction makes it hard to balance a 3-way rotation imo
You guys think Kuro balances around wz 
So we'll probably see amps that spam timestop like Ishmael

Kuro balances around ur wallet
balance in pgr nice one
They don't necessarily but they do clearly wanna make swap gameplay the meta in both casual and hardcore gameplay
well the last time they made an amp she became a tank

..... that's just the whole identity of the game ?!
tf u say
Pretty sure the vast majority of pgr players are non sweats who just want cool and strong characters
You think kuro balances?


They don’t even play their own game 
that’s why they roll ss3 cw and skip feral
It literally got lost for a whole year until they started trying harder to bring it back
More fodder
do u blame them? xd
you really don't play the game ...
Well yeah they could make it less trash 
they just need to make it no cd quickswap like wuwa
Also whoever discovered fake dodge, double shit, sp delay, etc needs to be studied
???? Balter Cw lamia qu solo carries say hello
Some of them needed new characters specifically tailored to force them to swap
Now they are, back then they weren't
none of them does except at poor invest, which isn't the target of every game company
It’s not back then anymore
Relativity and whatnot
Does anyone know if the 100% rate up coming in Polaris bond is for limited or standard

i never soloed with cw





just build pc










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