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Dat?
yeah
why would you even consider 3s day 1 if you are concerned about bc income
you just get him from dorms bruh
yes
but i simp wanshi hard

yeah just that
Pyroath>>>>>
well you still have orb mald + stagger problems though btw 
his rot doesn't even changes between ss and 3s and you need qu to make use of -3sec
just get from dorm and then buy vouchers for few months won't change anything
Nah Pyroath coolest frame ever
Just restart smh
so just ss qu then
Let me guess she replaces lucia plume?
pulling for wanshi is whale only territory when there are so many broken ss3 now
guess ill sss+ him on reruns
just stock vouchers and buy them each month eventually you will get there
meanwhile you can't do the same for oher chars
s+ is obviously nice but keep in mind that if you take too long to do it your s+ unit will lose more value
well ill probably still keep maining him even if he gets powercreep
i already plan to skip pyroath too
how many shards you need for s+

i just prefer gun overall
so like 3-4 months to 3s then 9months to s+
surely he will be relevant for longer than year
300 from s to sss+
so..... 10 copy
if pull him
i have 50 shard from shop
- ticket = 70
230 away
efficiently, need 7 more copy and a ticket shop reset
that’s certainly some dedication to maining a unit you could sss+ for close to free
tbf going from base s to s+ without pulling at all will take way too long though
well if ur "waifu" player you can go for it if you want
just don't regret your decisions if you will actually want some decent wz scores 
if anything nothing will change if he aint free
ill still try to sss+ him, just takes longer
i still use wanshi hypnos sss+
my first full hypertune, full sig reso and harmo
ill do the same for his s tank frame








@distant wren something like this rite
@sand dome do you have a S+ lamia ref for black shark hell? im not sure what im missing here for 2 bars of hp...
Just pulled Lamia guys
Just confirming , her memory set is the 4 pc Sig and 2 Pc Cottie yeah?
basically, yeah
anything i missed here? @shadow holly im at 18 3/4 bars on ulti 1 
float

shark iframes
also no holding forward
oh wait i did hold forward in the vid

idk that -shits random
i had a metric ton of underkills too
he's leaping in the air in my vid
build lamia
Main DPS Set
Main DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set
4x Derketo
2x Cottie
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
Cottie
oh, is there random iframes in there

its shark

Welcome to the random bullsht a black shark got for you to enjoy


who put iframes in here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdaDJoHLYro
here ref from marko @fringe kestrel
shark does the jump here
maybe bad qte timings?
Bugged timer
SSS+ Lamia - 4 Cottie/2 Derketo 12 HT 6 Ult Reso SSS+ Pet 2 Derketo Harmo
Weapon - Incandescence/Glorious Afterglow/Matrix Lightning
SSS+ Scire - 4 DV/2 Gloria 4 Tank Reso 2 Einsteina Harmo
Weapon - Tenebrion Shock/Boundarie's Annihilation/Resonant Echo
SSS+ Capriccio - 4 Seraphine/2 Samantha 2 Guin Harmo
Weapon - Superconducting...
Trailblazer weakest in onslaught
hey gen 2 units had super armor too
gotta be fair
i was using marko's ref already 
Have fun with cradle and lamia
that's the neat part
doesnt feel like it
it jumps a lot but it doesnt have iframes
it's hitbox is very consistent even if its in the air
looks like marko triggers his qte pretty quick
@shadow holly can u take a look at my setup and see if anything is missing, marko's ulti 2 hits for 2k more dmg per tick
https://huaxu.app/na/players/11573196/characters/1271003
Lamia: Lost Lullaby of DANDY from the North America server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
im seeing 155k ticks, you're hitting 156.7k, am i missing something? 
qte
build balter
Main DPS Set
Main DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Main DPS Set
For SS0 and below
4x Charlotte
2x Leeuwenhoek
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
Signa
please limit the usage of bots in the respective channel
Should I prioritize amps on harmony or its always debut unit first?
Debut
huh. 
everything looks fine i think

The real damage dealers need em big pp harmo
Thanks!
4 cottie abuse
just wait for ish and save up on 4 amp harmos
youre using cub skill asap for the 5% edb right
yeah, im trying to at least
otherwise im not sure what ur missing 
Bro talking like we all can afford sigs for amps
whats the RC threshold for the 6x HT
nice try but you only save 2 at best
try to record a good attempt maybe
i cant afford amps
100rc
Rc spent reward should give some leeway with harmo currency when it comes next patch will harmo qu first then think from there
I'm in the same shoes as miku
no kaleido
Shes free
Yoooo snazz

dorm takes away my sanity
How
feral sig still not completely free so it's still 3 at least for f2ps
You never had one as far as I know
no i mean 2 usbs
true
Whel.
Too bad the sync plan gonna give us minus harmo cola's 
how I wish I could share a room with luna 😩😩😩💢💢💢
your premise of using ishmael to “save usbs” is already flawed
it's harmo mats not usbs
morning
please stop coping
bruh now with 3 s ranks in a row
and they lock 50 behind paywall bp
btw why you quit pgr aether
that’s the feral bp you bozo
they give like only 25 for free
yes
but do you realise everyone will already have a fk ton of excess
of a f2p achievable item
Because game peaked at Luna patch obviously. Only downhill from there
everyone who play since launch i guess 
Why are you so focused on the dumb 68 rc
it will take me over a year to catch up on harmo mats
When its like literally one of the best deals in the game
omfg man classic it gives me core resos
💦
you started late you accept the consequences
time is more valuable for a pgr account than anything else
its just your problem not everyone else’s 
yes that's why ish is the goat because even if i get amps sigs theres no way i can get enough harmo mats 
between alisa and ishmael patches you have way more than enough
you can you’re just too narrow minded to see it
you have to harmo an amp anyways
- u can skip other harmos like scire and capri
ideally not scire because still relevant for dark and ion
dv + shred 4pc needed
i mean i will probably get that bp but if you consider f2p that's -2 harmo with 3 s ranks in a row
I have a question 
well just keep playing and u will be fine
come on stop complaining already and just play the damn game
You will have enough
if you don’t just yap off kuro feedback forms
for compensation during catchup
how will they even deal with the new cr rots after speedup
will it be new rot each patch
if you’re going to be so negative about it then don’t play on an account that needs to catchup

If they're smart, they will just double/triple the rewards. If they're normal, they'll make it every week.
If they're dumb, they'll give them in the compensation events/mail.
If they're brain dead, we get nothing
i wasn't even negative about anything just tried to explain how goated ish is for plebs like me 
nah i'd whel
win every time
hi sir, my MPA is running out soon, fund me pls
bcs youre the best 
I can sense the lies
sure


What's the major diff between ss0 qu rot and sss0
I just learned both

wow kurai learned both qu rot so fast, she must be super easy and convenient
Surely
If Kurai learned her, then ANYONE could
Whaduhelll
i mean u can read her rank up, she gets buffs from hold atk + she doesnt lose dmg on hold dodge ult
and ss3 gives a huge dmg buff
So SS0 doing SSS0 is useless cause the buff you're aiming is not there
ss0 and ss3 is already big dmg diff

yes
Oke
its only useful to reposition
or if u want to avoid getting stunned but u can break out of it anyway
Ready to suffer?
Cause I'mma abuse that sht to the ground
we need the option to skip the starting animation and a hotkey for restart 
kurai tryna be abusive 
Is it worth getting Qu cub when you have SS Squid?
Just to make sure, SS0 and ss3 has almost like 0 diff in rotation rite?
I know her cub is only a minor upgrade at S
Bet you want him to abuse you

if she will be ss0, not really unless u can ss her cub
Only small difference between s qu cub vs ss squid iirc
but if u can get it i mean may as well
ye its only dmg diff
well only is understatement but ye
Wanted to see if I could save em to SS more important future cub's
Luna CUB getting SS 100%

Doesn't matter
Qu sucks to play eitherway
Wantap ice fr
even if dmg diff not that big you want every bit of dmg you can get for emperor ppc 
What's a ppc?
1 tap ice because you're an ice dalao now?

well its 25% edb so ye never wont be insane
especially after wanshi
but there is other more important ss3
its been whale mode since weapon reso change
and now its worse since the rank ups are so much stronger then before
what change was it 
One tap ppc and save run 
One tap ppc and save run fr
thats when f2p could manage high ppc ranking in adv back then, i think the highest i got was 10
then after wep reso change u had some whels even throwing resos on their qte units for that bit of extra dmg for a one shot xD
qu and onetap are antonyms
emp took me like 4hrs this week because you need entire wz rot on him 
I cant open Discord app on my laptop it syas it's downloading an update but it never launches
What do I do
google it
Paying
Player
Contest
open in browser
Close the discord from task manager then open it back
Any idea about team distribution in ppc ?
Idk
15ap lamia
Dark Shark
Trailblazer
Voodoo
I closed it but it still was doing it
I just decided to delete and redownload
People in my guild is killing themselves in ppc to unlock hell on boss to test which's which better
Since we have 5 ap a day now, by today reset we already unlocked both shark and TB hell
I sacc test elite voodoo
For dark shark you can choose either lightning or phys, depends on which is higher invest
I'll use fire and 2 ap dark on ds and tb
Using 5ap on one boss not practical for this week bcs 2 neutral bosses
no ga back then as well, everyone has dlt/incan/matrix reso
Wait
222.3 131 100 lightning
222 111 001 physical
5 ap fire for knight-chaos tb and ds
Ur chracters arent locked to a boss?????
Never was
I was thinking about
what the fck how was i never told ab this

Idk what to use for chaos hell between 2 bosses 
Aintnoway dawg
Voodoo - full dark
DS - L/L/L/L/F
Trailblazer - L/F/F/F/F
ppl tell this daily in this channel to all the newfaces 
Oh wait


Tbh if ur phys is equal investment I would go w that
Better sacc test and elite for voodoo i think
Lightning on shark is really cringe
Compare bruh
Lightning vs dshark 
use dark or fire on chaos shark at least
elite tb isnt that tanky
is ur fire full 3s?
Hmm
Then
DS - P/P/D/F/F
TB - L/D/F/F/F
Voodoo - L/L/D/D/D
how about this ?

Nope, only wata 
I will use wata emp alisa though
ehh then 3s wata ss emp match 3s dark on hell tb
same for chaos too
if sss empy could do 12s hell
Ohh then i could just unga bunga 


Shark - P/P/P/F/F
Blazer - L/L/F/F/F
Voodoo - Full Dark
How's my AP

Im afraid to scarifice dark AP bc from experience Voodoo feels real bad to off element
Im reserving 2 dark ap for either dark shark and tb
you can sacc test voodoo at least
test voodoo just use cw 3x3 ult
guys guess who lost 250 BC worth of warzone weeklies
saved 1 dark ap
it doesnt kill at ss0 invest tho
unless 2 harmo ig
acaxilao 
then prob phys kills
Wait omg empress too 

Needs 2 harmo?
yeah can insta excal
im not even sure if can kill with 2 harmo, i tried on mine and it was a bit far away
ss0 no orb dmg bricked invest
I never bothered learning because isnt that like whel stuff?
now trslao will guide us
Wait fck where's my phone
I can't find it :kekw:
Crimson brick
Amen 
normally applicable from ss3 balter
so not very whel
so... somenthing I can do around oblivion patch
yes I will ss3 her that patch
yeah sure if you even care about ex at that point
20 stacks only right?
46
im pretty sure theres some nitpicks that make it like, hella not worth it

either need dlt or lingya orb + perfect orbs
but the need ofr lingya orb kinda defeats the purpose lol
cant do it fast enough


Does it matter you phat whel
depending on how they decide to solve packs
probably not
if they actually do something about pack prices/contents it should be around the same bc/rc total
hey guys which A ranks should I s+ for guild
Pgr all the way
Need dlt + it's only like 26 stack
oh I was right its called simulated siege
Not worth
Tong

hwat
seek medical attention
Wz?
I'm seeking your attention

I sense ntr

I'd assume ppc
Wz is above
Clear 4 stage in wz

maybe its operation guardians
There is no ntr when everyone's happy
it's luna luna luna for me
As long as you can use fire and some dark ap for ds and tb



I've been sitting
for 30 minutes
dark because LUNA UWOOOGH
equal on tb but the only diff is tb hell which needs really good hands
Welp im screwed
both dark and void
she handles two at once 😭💢💢😭
only two? kinda weak
Broken hands with broken invest 
Lucia meanwhile taking on phys lightning ion ice and fire

can't help it even the face of the game icon is Lucia
and then they made her a side character
I didnt ask
No need to guess. I was in that bracket 
The cat isnt real
The cat is in ur walls
the cat is catting
sometimes.. I think about it.
Dew it

man I dont even have scire, cow, or fish waifu sig
Get all of them 
this just ognna burn a hole into my pocket
I would but...
21k bc and not spending it
the accelerated patches owuld make this come sooner..
Nice brick
how is that brick
At least get Kaleido weapon
lil bro gonna get butterfly skin for someone who sees like 5s of field time
And will soon be a total QTE bot
It's for the simps
only a total qte bot with sss wata xd
that's okay...
I still wanna know where this t-shirt is from though

Just get it off temu
solon special
Prolly custom made
taobao
I'm sure that's purchasable
one custom shirt cost like one coffee
don't expect good quality tho 
u need to have a tank in a team or it will always be terrible
hyperreal 2 eins for the memes
but lee should be on the bench by that time anyway
nothing he can add to fire after lucia is out
I guess Cerberus still has the best team comp
this is RC right? I will cope every time I see it.
well not really, it doesnt do anything good besides give the user entertainment i guess
Was just talking how well would canon team comp do
I mean you can probably use it.... for general content
like double of that team you suggested
aside from that... 
none of them do good Dx even in pve content they will struggle
unless kuro drops like set bonuses where if you use 3 characters from the same squad they get like a trio ultimate with high scalings
ig cerb would be better after vera leap next patch
They have actually once
not for main content
but noctis is literally useless
that don't count, we dont see any joint ultimates after that 😭
is A Bridget better than nanapulse
Ooooh joint ult
like wuwa has joint ultimates (I think)
Yes
Took em 4 years to make a free fire tank
yes and no, for whel, no
welp I just got her sig from random wep banner
Yeah use her
pulse is good for wata since her sig is like what, 5% more shred on top of wata's
mk
pulse herself is probably like trash im pretty sure people only use her for her sig in ppc
Vanilla s rank moment
Pulse Leap 2Cottie quickswap DPS
She probably has it better though
its purely in the event, just like the cerberus special ult was
Considering entropy and amber
ima be honest I saw it like once in a video and it almost got me willing to come back

but heaaring that it's not part of the main game makes pushes me away again
Oh yeah, how angry was karen amber simp when an a rank palefire powercrept her
depends
is she ss or ss3

to be fair, wuwa having a joint ultimate in the main game would probably make a lot of sense still
cuz I'm sure half the glb can't afford ss3 qu
I thought she didn't need it because she was famous.
i mean
ss0 ss3 rots are the exact same
Ss = ss3
famous for making ppl wallet go broke yes
No difference in cycle
maybe cuz they want to actually be doing a bit more damage than zero
The additional damage effect in the core passive state is larger than expected.
25% edb after core
bro what happened to her being a massive dps outputter compared to wata 💀
nothing
im just joking
but yea tbh i dont think we have any qu guides out yet so that would be nice for those people who dont want to learn it themselves
great, ss0 st for 5 patches before I can chill with trueslash team 💀
even with accelerated scheduling thats still like what, 12-16 weeks?
you mean like pulling fate?
imagine not pulling fate
or arrival?
Whel selectors
hey should I pull feral to complete my team composition for weave or just pull watanabe
mmm.
uncle
just pull wata
no wata = your fire team is dead
this reminds me of the "skip feral because sss lux is better"
Perma banner + selector 10 K rc
funniest sh on the planet
tho honestly if you dont have wata atp you could get him from standard later unless you've used it already
unless you've just been holding onto the pulls and have some stocked up
if I crack my neck and feel lightheaded, am I fcked?
i meann im not really looking to build a fire team rn but investing on lightning
you need all teams anyway
touché
its not really about what youre "looking to build"
its what you need
you just build teams in accordance to what you get and what characters come out

i see i see
mfw I dont really need pillow ss3 but im still getting her on oblivion patch instead of scire ss3
the more i know, i guess
is there a setting that remembers / forgets the team that was previously used in ppc? after i switch team position it keeps resetting when i exit the boss and go back in, for example, it was hyperreal blue, nanamech red and sola yellow, i switched hyperreal and sola so it became sola blue and hyperreal yellow, but after resetting the boss fight the position became the former again. has anyone encountered this issue?
but yeah ig also depends on how casual you are
if you're fine with really bad performance in competitive modes and not being able to complete some endgame modes, you can do whatever you want
The thing at the top right corner
Hey guys what's better invest: SS3 Balter or SS3 Lamia ?
fish
right now, ss3 balter
wait actually?
for the new set ?

Whats her build for SS3 then ?
to be fair I just remember stigmata as pretty outdated
in which screen, the unit formation screen?
4charl 2 cot iirc
I think leeu is for 2S
Yea the screen where you are about to fight bosses
but do keep in mind that the impact of her ss3 will be reduced by quite a lot with the release of hanying
4 charlotte 2 signa
if you want to be more future proof then maybe ss3 lamia would be a better choice
so SS3 lamia then ? hahaha
signa > leeu unless you already built leeu
oh that team preset thing isn't what i'm talking about
is SS3 Lamia very minimal impact ?
lamia ss3 doesnt change wz much
its mainly pretty big diff in ppc
If it is not then man, i have no idea
Sss them all 
SS3 Balter big impact in both WZ and PPC ?
yeah its not a very high impact rank
usually energy related ranks are really good but that's just how it goes with lamia's energy thresholds
ss0 can still do the same rot as ss3 in wz
and in ppc stuff like sp delay need good execution

Just ss3 hanying
k so I read on it, ss3 is basically huge for stigmata because it basically cuts down on stigmata's rotation by a lot when wanting to gain stacks
where are you getting ss3 from tho lol @tulip spade
U gotta remember we get a free balter copy and she's in voucher soon
pfft, SS6
So wherever ur getting ur ss3 from
even though it gives nothing.
It's not worth rn
Sweet, free SSS1 balter
Ive been reserving quite well and investing correctly since i started.
Yeah just wait for hanying to ss3
so?? you want to pull arrival or what
just save it either for ranks on chars where it matters more or for weapon resos
thats probably gonna go down the drain around parhelion patch, or what dazzal said, hanying ss3 since trueslash is like... kinda cope without it
I made sure by the first day of QU Shukra Patch
all my MAIN DPS elements will be SS minimum, SIG, R1 and CUB (including QU) So I essentially ahve all elements finally covered for endgame content. I've been coping so much
did you skip watanabe 

You mean bare minimum for a non-bricked f2p account?
not really especially after hanying
u is the because why glb still standing
SS3 balter is free down the line
just save the extra funds for ss3 on hanying/pyroath/ishmael
So there’s no point getting ss3 now
i thought you're asking about picking from some selector, but if you plan to spend pulls for it, better get some better ss3
Save 
Getting ss3 balter now would be “dunce cap trophy” move number 1
ima see if I can spot a pattern
imagine if the next base S tank requires ss3 minimum invest or else mald
im aware of that. My patience gets the best of me at times.. unfortunately. I need chains on me
cause if I had to predict, every other S frame tank seems to want ss3 or else mald
Hanying wants ss3 badly
Lucia wants ss3 badly
ishmael needs ss3 to be proper main dps
its not like nanami needs ss3 minimum invest
scire wants ss3, two tanks later, hanying wants ss3, two tanks later, ???
every OTHER base s tank maybe?
Should I just leave Balter at SS0 and use DLT on her Reso and cop as a SOLO Main DPS for phys in the mean time ?
nah tanks min invest now is sss 
nah dont make me cry
well yeah you shouldve wrote that right away
how abt we cry together
just play swap if you have ss alisa
if you dont, ss0 balter can solo without dlt
MEN KISSING?!
nanami is fine without but that’s because she is too simple to have any human rights locked ranks
was tryna figure out how but the sentence sounded weird
so Ultima is sufficent for her orbs ? to rot a few times ? My Alisa is s5 btw
anyways if the next base s tank requries ss3 invest then I can safely say that theres a pattern
every other base S tank needing ss3 minimum invest or mald
its not like that ffs
at ss0 youre basic attacking a lot so your orb sustain is enough
Just get everyone at S and worry about the investments later 

just saying it out of superstition if one can be made
Wata Nanami Wanshi aren’t ss3 needy
Ishmael/Hanying are
just so we can have a funny "curse" that every other base S tank wants ss3
so like what fk ing “pattern” is there
its just 2 tanks and 1 attacker
there’s no superstition
Just get everyone at 3S and worry about the investments later :InaNodFast:
qu ss3 used to have her ss0 effects then they swapped them last minute
hanying is the only gen3 tank that really wants ss3, the others are fine without it
so you are superstitioning over nothing
no fkin way
and ishmael excluded, every other new gen char is fine at ss0
so SS0 QU is fine ?
who even thought that it would be any kind of remotely decent to have her ss0 passive at ss3
ye nothing wrong with that
qu is fine af
True, just 3S R3 everyone so you can one tap wz and get 5m score 
fun ruiner, I was saying it out of entertainment reasons not like legit
ss3 is a rank u get if u can afford it, want to spend a decent amount but not enough to suffice for sss
no doomposting plez 
her ss0 passive used to be on sss, and her current ss3 was on ss0
then they moved sss down to ss3
and then moved it down to ss0
and the beta ss0 moved to ss3
all this time and we could be vcing right now ... 
thats impossible for global players

So out of fun can i stab you for saying dumb things 

thats probably gonna sting
stabbing for fun

i mean its literally 1min, imma hit the shower now and dip xd
I’ll make sure to twist the knife for maximum organ failure


u seem to have experience in stabbing
yummers?

10/10 in this server would like to be stabbed by you
hes secretly british
Noway

Serrated blades 
Ha got dat stabbin loicense
does he have the loicense for getting shtabbed
A warning for all global players: You must have SSS ishmael for all future content, or else your acc is bricked
DS - P/P/D/F/F
TB - L/D/F/F/F
Voodoo - L/L/D/D/D
How's this ?
My dark isn't that strong thanks to no Daren
welp, time to quit
if i could read, i would probably be very sad
Seems reasonable, but try to compare anyway
former british colony moment

Anyways sss ishmael is… okay
SSS Ishmael will take over everything
sss ishmael

one passive is decently useful
one passive is useless
the tank/amp passives up are good
How?
holy text jumpscare
But like its the same as other tank sss

Wadapak
ezra mod abusing
Hm?
Use lvl1 units to unlock hell, then do run for both dark and fire
oh was that not you who deleted it 
What's ppc for this week again
what delete ?
dshark tb doodoo
DS
TB
VOODOO
Is this real chat?
he’s joking
Ishmael will be revised over time with new characters, she will have the highest longevity as a unit
its real if you base standard is sss all units
That wasn't mod aboos
sss ishmael
Churning Wheel of Fate
Upon casting Afterglow of Worlds for the first time upon entering the battlefield, gain 180 Gravitational Collapse Points and a Mark of Collapse. Base DMG of Signature - Extinction Sentence increases by 60%. While the Incorporeal Inhibition Domain is active, every Phantom Abysm generates an extra 3 Signature Energy. Enhances the special abilities triggered based on the Observation Chronicle.
Gravitational Collapse Points' damage amplification effect increases by 50%. During the 5th hit of Phantom Abysm, you can input one 3-Ping to deal an additional 1000% Nihil DMG and gain 180 Gravitational Collapse Points. Enhances the special abilities triggered based on the Observation Chronicle. Base DMG efficiency increase against Equilibrium Fields increases to 150%.
Tank State
Fire: Unlocked at SS3: Scorching Invasion and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%.
Unlocked at SSS: Scorching Invasion and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%. Switch cooldown of all members in the team is reduced by 3s; this effect does not stack with others of the same type.
Ice: Unlocked at SS3: Frost Corrosion and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%.
Unlocked at SSS: Frost Corrosion and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%. Switch cooldown of all members in the team is reduced by 3s; this effect does not stack with others of the same type.
Lightning:Unlocked at SS3: Turbulence Interference and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%.
Unlocked at SSS: Turbulence Interference and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%. Switch cooldown of all members in the team is reduced by 3s; this effect does not stack with others of the same type.
Dark: Unlocked at SSS: Chain Fusion and Collapse Singularity effects increases by 10%.
Amplfier State
Fire: Unlocked at SSS: Amplifier Class Skill effect increases by 100%.
Ice: Unlocked at SSS: Amplifier Class Skill effect increases by 100%.
Lightning: Unlocked at SSS: Amplifier Class Skill effect increases by 100%.
Dark: Unlocked at SSS: Amplifier Class Skill effect increases by 100%
damn ok buddy
So what I'm hearing is, skip everything and S+ Ishmael? 
helper aboos
Reading overdose is dangerous
actually saved some ppl
Just sss is good enough
Yes
ah yes listening to troll




Kuro planning to make her viable in more ways for future units
In what terms does your account get bricked anyway
depends on your own definition
Entropy
lmao
SSS is where all her benefits are maxed in
It's funny how entropeak is actually an option now 
Spending bc on base pulls is bricked
not having all units at sss = bricked
for some its just losing your competitive ability
for some its not being able to complete all pve content
for some its just uhh
idk
she’s already inherently incompatible with ion and burn teams
Skipping everyone just for s+vergil included?
so you can cross those off the list
Entropy
Whogil?
😱😱
Lucia Pyroath>>> Vergil
Lucia Pyroath is the offspring of lamia lucia and vergil
Post that in reddit I dare you
she’s only usable as the qte slave when her buffs “update” because she still sucks at dealing dmg outside of void comps
You can S+ vergil using voucher 
Wait Will vergil have his dt?
Kuro didnt specify what, just know she will play as a viable unit for a long time
They plan to revise her over time
whats a dt? i know only dlt
Imn not scared my ass was a vergil rider for four years
no they don’t need to specify
we already know she cannot function in ion or burn
so vergil can die on time 
Devil trigger is his base devil triggeer upon dmc5 his base devil trigger became his doppelganger
Ungga bungga
Ungga bungga
Dark Team
Gotcha 
her buffs are updated accordingly to the best tank/amp of the current slots only
Better if pgr eos before dmc collab
that’s all
Her dmg typing is still void
well for kit we wont know yet since theres no update on collab ever since announcement so just 
It's a rank

yeah current as in
when we get a new amp/tank her buff numbers will match them
doesn’t change that
- That unit is highly likely onfielding and thus redundant for ishmael to copy buffs from because she’s going to be the wrong class when you put them together
- She’s still only a dv carrier at best who can’t use eins or deal effective dmg
*b-rank
A rank meta powercreeping S rank ong frfr
maybe before you freak out over sss ishmael
I bet vergil would be a dark type tho
you actually consider how the homeless class works first
because there’s too many inherent restrictions in it to work
Vergil would probably be almost similar to cw in terms of parry
I just hope 3S collab has stickers this time, like BRS
My nier sticker has been robbed from me
Considering homeless???
Dont need to, its something kuro plans to do for ishmael
current tanks in pgr also need to onfield for their shred effectiveness which basically defeats the point of tank ishmael outside of void
homeless mentioned 
They’re only updating her buff numbers not her base mechanics altera
If you didn’t read the kit text
Btw since a lot of people are active rn
Did they ever fix the leaderboard not showing the scores in siege in future updates?
core ishmael
Sanctified Event Horizon - Observation Chronicle
Ishmael: Parhelion's ability is determined by the Observation Chronicle. The Observation Chronicle's abilities will be strengthened along with the subsequent release of other Constructs.
- If there is only one elemental Tank in the team, Ishmael: Parhelion will become an Amplifier of the corresponding element.
- If there is only one elemental Support/Amplifier in the team, Ishmael: Parhelion will become a Tank of the corresponding element.
? Bro never thought of leap
Its just the Observation Chronicle list
she just released why the hell are you considering leap already
Anything can change and kuro plans to change her over time for new characters
Wait 2 years before coming back with that theory
Not anything
look at the text above
the observation chronicle can change
That’s all
we already factored this into how she plays out in future
‘we’
while she can match the buff/shred numbers she won’t match the dmg
Dont put me in that bracket
she can’t be used in affix teams where the enabler is a different element than what she wants to buff
she can work in glaciation but not burn or ion
yeah ofc because you’re still only just barely reading the surface of what it means
you didn’t even understand what they mean by kuro updating ishmael over time

Did I do good ? First time in ultimate ppc
i’ve already explained it, there’s too many caveats for her sss “universal buffs” to be that relevant
New Amp/Tank releases -> they’re likely main dps or have a forced swap mechanic requiring them to onfield -> ishmael gets the same buff numbers but can’t fill in for them because they’re new main/subdps and she can only be a qtebot
first ever top 99% in ppc while actually playing
once we get lilith + new dark tank there’s literally no place to slot ishmael
ofc u dalao

I miss clicked 


I blame Fel
I blame Fel
I blame Fel
is there a free feral 21 somewhere or a free rosetta? I can't pick what to take on my standard s rank rate up
guys when qu update
21 will be free on ishmael patch
next week sir
when next week
4th
I see, but is it worth to take rosetta on the standard, or will they give out another s rank selector
Rigor should be in the novice mission s-rank selector
o

So when would be ish patch drop on global

well my old self fumbled and took nanami 
in 2 days 
When Fel apologies
atp just cope until hanying comes
When cn eos just before dmc collab


for standard S rank select, right now would be suggesting to get lamia if u havent gotten her
pretty much both my lightning and phys teams are set just missing 21 and rigor, if they'll be coming for free and rigor will be replaced in the meta who would be the optimal pick on the standard
ohh okie
4th dec
as for fire who else do I need? already got unc and flashbang do I need lee?
lamia or save if you are really afraid
and you think the catchup will make you miss 1 or 2
that's a long time to wait man
wdym its literally next week
the standard selector won't be updated right? it only goes up to lamia patch?
It is but....
it does
ohhh

2 patch delay after debut
but with the integrated catchup patches we dunno how fast it updates
i guess I'll hold onto it
thanks! is the free feral coming with a free weap?
or just the construct
wait free feral is coming?
I heard both her and her weapon are free
free weap only u buy the 68rc pass
but trust me that is worth the investment
free at the price of 68rc 
Not free feral weap iirc
when is free feral gonna come?
free 
Man people do not like doing research
weap + like 2 yellow usb + harmo mats and skulls iirc
wait thats a steal
Free cw, her weap and cub, but not ferals
there’s a new permanent “lightning team freebie event”
free:
CW
CW sig
CW cub
Feral
2 wep usbs
100 skulls
25 harmo accelerators
A rank CUB selector
12 hypertunes
68 rc pass:
680 bc
feral sig
400 skulls
2 wep usbs
50 harmony accelerators
36 hypertunes
permanent banner:
15k bc for mats and selector up to nanami
68rc for 3 weap usb 
its gonna 680rc when it comes to globlul 
which nanami? mech?

nanaknight
Lightning Tank
ohhh
The one who powercrept CW so hard
They know that feral still has worth so they ain't giving her sig for free
knight one
that cw needs sss to barely compete with an ss knight

i guess it's free knight
its still a black card banner
not exactly free
?
oh yeah i forgot the bc spending part
the permanent nanami selector banner still uses 15k black cards for pity
you can just get nanami on debut anyways
now where do I use that dupe cw sig
poor cw
thanks for the info!

CUCUMBER
CUCUMBER
Is that meant to be kowloong
they love to make qu look so cool
but then her gameplay is absolute ass

Like uniframe like omniframe

mine will be same build but r0 hobo 
i missed the delete button like i missed pinging orbs
@woven haven do we have extra 50 lilith shards after getting her for free through special banner?
qu ugly and bad
is ayla ugly and bad too?
Same, but ss3 cw because of that free copy
free copy + sig + cub
+16k bc for 2nd copy (30 shards)
+20 shard pack in shop from banner coins

Mandatory sss unit or else
I mean you can just voucher to sss without the extra rolling 1 copy
but the banner shop also has her skin
so if you think 16k bc is worth the skin + other goodies in it
all in selena


when all server aligned
dmc collab starts
how do i get more hypertune materials except from guild and dorm











