📨・meta-help

[frozen creek]

Use dark for everything

[prime drum]

mk

[dapper skiff]

Ehhhhhh

[terse plinth]

btw i think trs is in the same bracket as mine somehow

[dapper skiff]

Ig that's how u play qu normally

No wonder she's very slim

[shadow holly]

I'm eu

[dapper skiff]

She barely eats any orb

[wispy robin]

kr

[terse plinth]

then prob not

[dapper skiff]

3+1 > 3 or matrix > hold basic and ult

That's the entire qu input

The normal one

[hot ravine]

I see, then until then should I raise Lucia lotus to progress the story? Thanks again!

[terse plinth]

legend suk get me back to hero

[wispy robin]

for story you can get entropy from the first 5 char selector and rigor from beginner missions selector they will carry all early content for you

[shadow holly]

you're fine to raise whoever you need to progress story

[fringe kestrel]

Is the build for empyrea 4guin2gloria2sam?

[terse plinth]

isnt it 4 dvc 2 guin 2 eins

[shadow holly]

yeah sounds right for ppc

[fringe kestrel]

9s chaos so hard

[shadow holly]

oh ur in bracket with xeno

[river nymph]

omg hi

[shadow holly]

[terse plinth]

dalao

[river nymph]

just chillin

[shadow holly]

kwhel

[terse plinth]

kwhel

[thorn creek]

kwhel

[tender vessel]

can i s+ qu if i get all of this patch and next patch packs with no bc saved

[novel sleet]

How can I recharge if the game is banned in my country

[tender vessel]

coda

[shadow holly]

I remember seeing that all packs should be around 80k? I think
so you prooooobably can

[tender vessel]

80k per patch or total

eh thats only 3s

[novel sleet]

Codashop don't got pgr here

[tender vessel]

thats why you use codashop from another region

[novel sleet]

Heh do I use vpn too?

[tender vessel]

no?

go to where it says country, click on it, go to philippines or pakistan

[novel sleet]

First gotta check which all countries banned pgr

[tender vessel]

pakistan might work but ive not tested it

phil is the cheapest atm but needs a number, which you can use virtual numbers for, i have a site for it

if you dont wanna deal with allat just go on us/uk

or saudi

[shadow holly]

per patch

[tender vessel]

wtf

[shadow holly]

@woven sable hi swiping expert need your help

[tender vessel]

80k per since when?

wtf werent patches only doing 40k before like lamia?

[novel sleet]

Now I need to see where the country section is

[tender vessel]

at the bottom

[thorn creek]

800k

[woven sable]

slander, im f2p

[tender vessel]

if its 80k then im chillin

[shadow holly]

ogey no slander but they're asking how much are all packs usually
per patch

[woven sable]

$ count or what

[shadow holly]

bc

[terse plinth]

oh it is fire mobs next wave....

[shadow holly]

.

[woven sable]

like 60k ish from packs only

depends on patch

[shadow holly]

oh I misinfo

[woven sable]

i think this patch is only like 45k

[shadow holly]

dead patch tf

[woven sable]

just bad packs

[thorn creek]

just get more top ups

[shadow holly]

at least had some good ones

[thorn creek]

[woven sable]

direct convert is so fu cking bad

[wispy robin]

if ur whel you gonna get 2 s rank selectors from recharges
just use them for whale shards for qu

[shadow holly]

just one tho

[novel sleet]

So like

[river nymph]

here is some pack info, the wata one i think is from before wave 2 packs but i think those only added like 10k

[novel sleet]

Its ggs for me I suppose

Don't got Phillipines number

[unkempt grotto]

whel

[terse plinth]

try indo

[wispy robin]

theres 2

[terse plinth]

i have better conversion rate there

[shadow holly]

can't pick one char twice

[wispy robin]

huh you can't?

[shadow holly]

yeah unless it for some reason works differently from the weapon/cub forging tickets

there's only stock of one copy of each char/weapon/cub in the shop where you exchange these

[wispy robin]

well surely he must have at least 2 s+ chars around for free shards

[novel sleet]

So cheap lmao

[thorn creek]

nice now i can whel even further beyond

[terse plinth]

glad to help u

[novel sleet]

Now what abt payment method? Which one do I use

[terse plinth]

visa ofc

not many coda have paypal

[novel sleet]

Oop

[tender vessel]

onlinesim.io

[visual topaz]

[tender vessel]

waot how much is indo

[carmine mesa]

Do they all require a local phone number?

[carmine mesa]

80$ for 600 RC is pretty nice

[woven sable]

smh u guys are whels

[novel sleet]

[visual topaz]

k leviathan

[terse plinth]

about 16 euro for 119 rc

[tender vessel]

but does it work out cheaper than coda

[terse plinth]

it is coda indo

[tender vessel]

phil i mean

phil is what 65

[terse plinth]

i mean you can just try and compare them

[normal sierra]

but it's not 60$ for 600 rc, so it's scam

[tender vessel]

phil is cheaper

[terse plinth]

pgr cannot aboose jp vpn for top up smh eos when

[tender vessel]

thats 13.02 for 119 rc, so 595 rc for 65, phil is 600 fpr 65

[carmine mesa]

Better then Xsolla, thankfully they are gone now, so if coda doesn't work, at least I'm not paying 7% processing charge.

[unkempt grotto]

funny how when I search pgr in their website it shows no result but it works when I just add the title into Google search

[normal sierra]

yeah, also much better than regular gplay prices
I just miss the saudi brothers, so anything more expensive is scam

[cold walrus]

Do you guys have codashop in your country

[visual topaz]

[carmine mesa]

PGR doesn't ship on Gplay here, I can't even see their prices.

[visual topaz]

i can't top using google lol

[unkempt grotto]

my Google pay got blocked

[normal sierra]

good, no one should ever top up via google

[unkempt grotto]

can I top up using my supermarket voucher instead

[woven sable]

nou

[tender vessel]

if only a new cheap coda came along

[carmine mesa]

If your Gplay is blocked, I doubt Gplay pre paid cards will work.
If you have a PC, you can buy there.
But no coda shop.

[tender vessel]

saudi betrayed us

[visual topaz]

9/11 moment

ripge arg coda

[tender vessel]

[unkempt grotto]

mk revolut card it is
buying using crypto

[tender vessel]

[deft apex]

F2p rc?

[visual topaz]

nah

was like 30 usd for 710 RC

still whel

[tender vessel]

it was gross i wish i got in at that time

[grand jay]

I THREW A TENFOLD AT FATE AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED

[visual topaz]

mommy

gib

[foggy ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/lee-meme-at-the-end-of-time-cease-your-existence-low-tier-firegod-punishing-gray-raven-gif-17197449370593838908

[tender vessel]

nice

[grand jay]

[hidden forum]

@visual topaz where’s ur hell tb 10s clear

[tender vessel]

i cant wait for s+ ish in only like 4 patches now instead of 10

[stiff elm]

huh, I was watching some content by kurogames and I found this dude wearing this funny little t-shirt

[deft apex]

This is why u should always pulls fate

[stiff elm]

WHERE DO I GET IT

[grand jay]

I just need to SSS Luna now

[visual topaz]

buy me wata packs

[grand jay]

I only need one dupe

[hidden forum]

[grand jay]

Or 18 frags I think

[deft apex]

Meanwhile I pulled regular anniv and managed to pull hanying, midcia and wata with around 60 pulls

[carmine mesa]

Lucky duckling everywhere I look, meanwhile 3S Wata cost the full 4 pity.

[grand jay]

Yk what's crazy as well

I have Wanshi, Lucia, Nanaknight and Ish all at 3S minimum

[tender vessel]

no s+?

weak

[grand jay]

I'm SSS6 on Wanshi

[lethal sun]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-fun-white-cat-dance-cool-and-fun-times-gif-16435335956387921912

[grand jay]

I would spend my vouchers for S+ buuuut Lilith is next so I'm saving

[lethal sun]

sick

[carmine mesa]

Still no news about the patch crunch

[tender vessel]

bro did not whale for hot anime women,

i wasnt gonna s+ qu but i decided shes too hot to not s+

[grand jay]

@opaque ridge you were right

Fate is low-key goated

[hidden forum]

S+ so I can have her take over wata’s role in tb chaos and hell

[grand jay]

When it wants to bless me

[hidden forum]

[grand jay]

I'm done with Ishmael

[tender vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/energy-beam-gif-23567842

[grand jay]

Not gonna go any further I think

[tender vessel]

s+ so i can still solo qu and not use wata

[hidden forum]

[novel sleet]

Was wondering what are yall jobs if you can whel on gachas

[tender vessel]

i work on subs

[novel sleet]

300 USD hourly

[wispy robin]

not even s+ is enough t make solo qu playable

[hidden forum]

I relocate people for a living

[tender vessel]

nah im in uk

[lethal sun]

Relocate me to heaven

[hidden forum]

[novel sleet]

Give mpa and I will forget this happened

[deft apex]

Weakling

[hidden forum]

[tender vessel]

im on bad pay but im applying for better role

[carmine mesa]

Night shift manager, no GF, no social life, don't drink, so gacha is my vice.

[tender vessel]

i can whale cuz i dont buy anything else except ado merch lmao

[novel sleet]

But like you always spend over 100 usd on this game per patch right?

[onyx palm]

applying for better jobs just to whale

[tender vessel]

no

i spend 300

[novel sleet]

Must be a good job

My undergraduate ahh can't comprehend

[onyx palm]

3k a year?

[tender vessel]

i live at home, no expenses except my car which is good fuel efficiency, no gf to drain wallet, abd the only other stuff i buy is ado merch and recently world tour vip tickets

[tender vessel]

i just finished my bachelors im an intern lol

[onyx palm]

you could save?

[carmine mesa]

I spend about 50$ a patch, I'm a fake whel, it gets me what I want from PGR.

[tender vessel]

im applying for better role which will pay me like 10k more

[onyx palm]

for a house

[novel sleet]

Buy everyone mpa on ur birthday

[tender vessel]

whats mpa

[novel sleet]

Monthly pass A

[tender vessel]

no

[novel sleet]

Anyways send the site for the fake number

[tender vessel]

in this economy?

[tender vessel]

onlinesim.io, put 10 bucks in and gen them

[novel sleet]

I'm stuck

[shadow holly]

try in-game through VPN

[novel sleet]

Oh yeah

Leme connect to Phillipines for cheap pack

[shadow holly]

ph topup doesn't work for me, conversion rates into cad are ass

[grand jay]

I love CN prices

It's so cheap

128RC is like 13 dollars give or take

[cold walrus]

How much points on average i need to reach 10% in ppc?

[carmine mesa]

How would that change the phone number required?

[grand jay]

About 1.7m I wanna say????

[shadow holly]

1.75m is probably good enough but it heavily fluctuates depending on week

[grand jay]

It's doable with decent invest

[shadow holly]

in-game topup doesn't need phone number

[grand jay]

You do have fights like Hamlet that inflates scores

[carmine mesa]

Oh, so with a VPN in game top up is cheaper?

[shadow holly]

[grand jay]

Low key I got lucky with Ishmael

[shadow holly]

y'all should be discussing this stuff in dms anyway

[grand jay]

I got an early copy so I managed to get SS3 with 19k BC

Then I built pity on fate banner then this happened

Like WOW

[novel sleet]

Is there a good free vpn

[empty cargo]

Tunnelbear

[grand jay]

I think my lilith is probably SS3 day 1 since the pulls are time gated obviously

[novel sleet]

Alr

[shadow holly]

[wispy robin]

i wonder how much it's worth throwing like 10pulls on fate per patch to fish for luck

[whole spire]

lmao

[tender vessel]

china vpn or phil

[grand jay]

If you're purely f2p don't do what I did

[whole spire]

what if youre dolphin

[grand jay]

You need to be incredibly lucky to begin with seeing as the odds of getting doubles are very slim

[whole spire]

whats the rate for any srank on fate

[grand jay]

More over hard pity is 100

[whole spire]

1%?

[grand jay]

1.5%

Higher than the 0.6 on regular

[shadow holly]

ph

[whole spire]

hmm okok

[grand jay]

Point is regular has far less pity so it's wise to chuck any currency you have there

[shadow holly]

0.5

[grand jay]

I just happened to have pity built up on fate and then got insanely lucky

Then again I've been fairly lucky these past few patches

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twitter-stan-twitter-meme-adele-instagram-live-adele-confused-adele-thinking-gif-3910816615708400991

[tender vessel]

is it cheaper than codaing?

[grand jay]

Methinks Kuro gave me a dev account

[whole spire]

wheres my dev acc

[grand jay]

Because how do you explain the earlies I've been getting the last 2-3 patches lmao

[wispy robin]

dw you will just keep hitting pity for the next 10 patches till it evens out

[grand jay]

Thanks for early SSS Selena ig

[whole spire]

is there soft pity on fate banner

like after 80 pulls do the rates start to go up

[grand jay]

Technically 80 I think

I got the double on like 76 pity???

[shadow holly]

don't remember, try it

[tender vessel]

bet

ill mudfish it tomorrow

see if it works

[grand jay]

That being said SSS Ishmael probably isn't doing me any favours making her rot easy to learn

I also have an imbalance in ranks which feels icky

I need to get Luna to SSS too ugh

https://tenor.com/view/kam-edwards-when-your-son-is-a-geek-kam-edwards-tiktok-juneau-chair-slam-gif-3950632174044793484

[tender vessel]

s+ ishmael does me favours

[grand jay]

Rank passives are very nice still

[whole spire]

are there charts for soft pity rates on fate banner

[dapper skiff]

No

[deft apex]

Can I do favours for mpa?

[woven haven]

ss3 is where it stops

sss is just more dmg

[whole spire]

gacha rates are are legally required to be shared in china, it wouldnt make sense for it to be hidden

[normal sierra]

what is there to hide if there isn't any soft pity?

[river nymph]

[tender vessel]

s+ is for wife

[whole spire]

p sure there is one

[normal sierra]

[whole spire]

it says 1.9% overall rate

which is higher than 1.5%

that implies the rate increases

[hidden forum]

Average =/= Actual

[whole spire]

its not the average

its the same wording as hsr soft pity

[hidden forum]

Overall rate implies average

[hidden forum]

No soft here at all

Hard pity only

[whole spire]

bro if your rate is 1.5% then your average is also 1.5%

[hidden forum]

We go by 0.5% or 1.5%

[whole spire]

if your rate is 1.5 and your average is 1.9% then theres some statistical anomaly going on

[feral pollen]

[normal sierra]

isn't that just including the random pity chance there?

[feral pollen]

what this guy is on about

[hidden forum]

Blud is yapping

[visual topaz]

yes

[hidden forum]

Keep cooking

[celest socket]

hi guys, what should i buy in voucher exchange do you have suggestion

[hidden forum]

I need some entertainment

[feral pollen]

or am i in gayshin sh1tpact discord that there's some imaginary soft pity here

[hidden forum]

Whaduhell

[opaque ridge]

bro if your rate is 1.5% then your average is also 1.5%

[hidden forum]

Hoyo talk in pgr

Crazy

[rocky valley]

cute

[whole spire]

so theres no soft pity in fate

then why does it say pity is 80-100

im just trying to understand

[normal sierra]

cuz it's random?

[visual topaz]

random pity between 80 to 100

[grand jay]

Even though I did get that double

[whole spire]

what affects the chances of it being within that range

[normal sierra]

brah, you don't have to make up some theories about random chances
random is just random, unless stated otherwise

[grand jay]

I'm probably not touching fate for a hot min

[visual topaz]

you spend 20-25k BC for a dupe instead of 15k on the normal banner

[tulip spade]

How to COnvert Coating Sketches into Coating Blue prints boys?

[grand jay]

I've seen certain individuals get bent over

[visual topaz]

in case you hit the pity

[grand jay]

I'm not trying to deal with that tbh

[deft apex]

Nice

[normal sierra]

there's a menu for it in the shop
I think it's under the "exchange" tab

[visual topaz]

photoshopped i only know gambling winning Altera

[opaque ridge]

thanks

[whole spire]

im not making up theories, other games have soft pity so i just thought pgr might have one, its not that crazy lol

[grand jay]

What do you need the extra frags for lmao

[whole spire]

honest mistake

[grand jay]

Ohhhh right I just realised lmao

[whole spire]

but w.e

[grand jay]

To buy Lilith

[normal sierra]

it's ok, you just sounded so convinced about it

[opaque ridge]

Ahshitlmao free roll wep again

[tulip spade]

I love you.

[visual topaz]

I love Liv

[opaque ridge]

[visual topaz]

ban that whale

why do i pity and get offrated

[grand jay]

Pull better

[visual topaz]

Altera teach me how to pull sigs

[opaque ridge]

Why not

[normal sierra]

you don't whel enuff

[dusky quarry]

Cheating the rates 😡

[visual topaz]

ofc i don't

didn't bought any packs yet

[normal sierra]

Ew slaccing on packs

[visual topaz]

@hidden forum you tell him

[deft apex]

Great editing skills too

[visual topaz]

[opaque ridge]

what are ya buyin'

[visual topaz]

slandering my dalao

what buy

[hidden forum]

I feel ew’s gravitational pull

[visual topaz]

buy sirius

[opaque ridge]

Its right there

I used a a weapon selector for that

[grand jay]

Could I borrow like 3 weapons

I need them for Ish and Lilith resos

[visual topaz]

tf

starter selector doesn't have sirius

[grand jay]

My Ishmael is R2

[stuck sphinx]

Jk baseline is r2 for amp

[grand jay]

Oh riiiiight

[opaque ridge]

Shes not amp

[grand jay]

I can use her over Selena in PPC now

[deft apex]

Yea for like a month

[grand jay]

Until Lilith but yk

I wonder if like Lilith will be double tick

[opaque ridge]

U know what u can do, burn starfarer and hypnos sig into Lilith

[deft apex]

I wonder if lilith powercreeps lamia

[opaque ridge]

Yes

[grand jay]

I bet you she does

[deft apex]

[grand jay]

Ik they're cooking something diabolical for Lilith

[opaque ridge]

Lamia useless now

[whole spire]

do we know what lilith frame looks like

[grand jay]

First amp to become main dps since Liv

[deft apex]

They're cooking horni

[opaque ridge]

Yeah looks awful, no peg leg

[grand jay]

Mostly the same aside from her legs being more normal

[whole spire]

lmfao

[shadow holly]

[grand jay]

They shouldn't have changed the legs tbh

[deft apex]

What if her ult is that leg strangle she does lmao

[grand jay]

Let's complain and get Kuro to fix it

[opaque ridge]

How does she strangle 6 mobs of different sizes?

[buoyant hornet]

I hope it's at least available as one of her rank up coatings

[deft apex]

They changed her legs? How?

[grand jay]

It's probably the card domain she has in her fight

[whole spire]

ok i will fix it

[grand jay]

They're regular feet

They're still mechanical though

[deft apex]

Werent they always like that?

[grand jay]

No

[deft apex]

Do you have a photo?

[grand jay]

She had literal needles for legs lmao

[glass bay]

Whel

[tender vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-ltg-tie-him-up-gif-11927923657429006938

[opaque ridge]

yummy near expiration serum

[grand jay]

The lower legs basically become heels at the feet

[deft apex]

Ic

[grand jay]

Which is kinda lame since Lamia is a mermaid

[opaque ridge]

She is?

[grand jay]

Isn't she?

[shadow holly]

Lilith is cringe anyway
who cares what her legs are

[opaque ridge]

I thought lamia was a lamia

[grand jay]

She can toggle between human legs and fish tail

[stuck sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1185498808499572766.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[grand jay]

If you mean by her boss form ig that's a fair assumption to make

[stuck sphinx]

Not my fault kuro making everything so obese

[stuck sphinx]

What if she has hammer legs

[grand jay]

Most characters these days need resos to at least work properly

[shadow holly]

[opaque ridge]

Most characters need sss and r3 to work

[woven haven]

i hope lilith continues the trend of dark units absolutely guzzling orbs like no tomorrow

[grand jay]

PLEASE no

[woven haven]

[stuck sphinx]

Idk crapi does no dmg

It probably doesn’t matter if she doesn’t have dlt

[opaque ridge]

I hope kuro continues to cook units that requires ss3 and r2 to even breathe

[stuck sphinx]

I guess 1 bar could make a difference

[grand jay]

Out of the characters not in glb atm, most of them require SS0 minimum

[glass bay]

Fk whels

[grand jay]

I think it's really only Hanying and Ishmael that really want SS3

Lucia too with the massive QTE buff

[stuck sphinx]

Daren still wants

[opaque ridge]

[stuck sphinx]

Imagine no heat field

[whole spire]

who tf daren

[grand jay]

Not in glb

[stuck sphinx]

Yes in glb

[grand jay]

Daren Ion wants more ranks tbh

[opaque ridge]

Not in gbl

[grand jay]

I mean by characters not in glb

[stuck sphinx]

No dv in dark team

[grand jay]

Qu onwards lol

[stuck sphinx]

And you think it’s playable without heat field

[hazy sandal]

2dv

[stuck sphinx]

No 4p

[grand jay]

High key I need Lilith to demote Daren to DV holder

[shadow holly]

my wife

[grand jay]

Gen 3 amps being the main dps of the team would actually be so funny

[stuck sphinx]

I’m daren

[opaque ridge]

Daren no field time

[whole spire]

is daren dark karina

[grand jay]

Yes

[hazy sandal]

Karina

[shadow holly]

[hazy sandal]

I should play gf2

[whole spire]

i cant spell

[dapper skiff]

Saem

[unkempt grotto]

3rd impact when

[woven haven]

nah

she’ll replace daren entirely and have qu level rng

[stuck sphinx]

🚮

[woven haven]

and now good luck figuring who holds dv guin eins and heisen

[grand jay]

I beg you stop jinxing Dark for me

[opaque ridge]

Shes free though, cant be too good

[grand jay]

It's so mid atm

[woven haven]

i hope no one agrees on a build

[opaque ridge]

Looking at u ishmael

[woven haven]

and we end up arguing about this all the way until new dark attacker

[opaque ridge]

I hope global cooks when they catch up

[grand jay]

God that actually would suck now that I think about it

[opaque ridge]

No more foresight

X guide, memories and build

https://tenor.com/view/cook-chef-wok-saute-cooking-food-gif-16993886

[grand jay]

Imagine Dark being unsolved because of attacker and tank being so middle of the road/outdated

[dapper skiff]

Can you elaborate me if there is any other thing to do on qu besides 3+1, 3 and hold basic to ult

I read something about matrix thing

[grand jay]

Lamia doesn't hit as hard as she used to I feel

More like she's probably lacking behind the other elements

[opaque ridge]

Coz they keep artificially adding hp to enemies

[grand jay]

That too

Dark content hasn't really changed at all over the time Lamia's been out anyways

[deft apex]

Yea she didnt get weaker the enemies got more hp

[opaque ridge]

Its fine, global will carry everyone with new strats and builds in 2025 onwards, we eating good

Dont need to sell our souls to bilibili anymore

[whole spire]

i love bilibili

[grand jay]

I'm looking forward not having to search bilibili for clears to copy anymore

[opaque ridge]

Search Youtube instead

What an era we live in

[stray siren]

Just ask Doomy

[unkempt grotto]

bilibili no censorship = good

[opaque ridge]

No more copying bili, copy from youtube mains

New rosetta frame this year btw

[deft apex]

New noan pls

[opaque ridge]

New vera frame this year too

New bridget frame this year too

[sand laurel]

new rosetta pls

[opaque ridge]

Shes finally getting 4 legs

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-rayleigh-silvers-old-man-tears-gif-6827173038490503333

[sand laurel]

karen also new pls (she been very nice this year 😳)

[whole spire]

new vera pls

[unkempt grotto]

kamui is ded af

[sand laurel]

[opaque ridge]

Wdym

Hes in wuwa next patch

[whole spire]

xd

[unkempt grotto]

@_@

[wispy robin]

jinshi in pgr when

[unkempt grotto]

LUNA? UWOOGH

[whole spire]

when they put cw in wuwa

[grand jay]

She*

[wispy robin]

i want autokill

[grand jay]

Don't deadname Phoebe like that

[deft apex]

He*
Kamui cant fool me twice

[unkempt grotto]

can't go above 480k damage in toa without sig weapon there

[grand jay]

Speaking of congrats Phoebe on your transition 😁

[cold walrus]

Does voltaire reduce only phys def?

[unkempt grotto]

no, general
aka it works for all element team

[unkempt grotto]

different kind of shred

[unkempt grotto]

for a sec I thought it's dragon ball collab with super saiyan hair

[stuck sphinx]

mem voltaire

[vale raft]

Voltaire ★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

Attacks reduce the target's DEF by 10% for 5s. 12s cooldown.

4pc Set Bonus

When taking damage, reduces the attacker's Physical DEF by 15% for 7s. Can be stacked up to 2 times. Duration resets every time it is triggered.

ATK

107

CRIT

51

DEF

181

HP

1232

[opaque ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/minions-lol-laugh-despicable-me-popcorn-gif-15384326

[stuck sphinx]

What am I reading

[woven haven]

hold dodge when matrix is active for fast ult core
hold atk otherwise for slow ult core

[river nymph]

[hazy sandal]

Now I know how to play

[lethal sun]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-gif-21712801

[dapper skiff]

Both is good?

[woven haven]

slow ult core does way more dmg

[hazy sandal]

Ngl the next guide video title is gonna be sth like : 3 years of playing and you still don’t know how to b@s!c attack

[woven haven]

For the ult*

Fast ult: Only 1 3ping for max stack ult
Slow ult: 3 3pings for max stack ult, double stack dmg bonus

[rocky valley]

where doomy

[stray siren]

sleeping maybe

[rocky valley]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/292525256373960705/972830700061470760/733508930633990217.gif

lets wake him up

[stray siren]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/292525256373960705/972830700061470760/733508930633990217.gif

[dapper skiff]

This?

[dapper skiff]

Do you do max 4 stack on every ult?

Or are there any cases that she doesn't

[stray siren]

ye, 3 + 1 + hold dodge + one x3

[dapper skiff]

I mean for fast core

[stray siren]

This refill some orbs iirc

[dapper skiff]

Really?

I have 16/16 orbs on trial, so I can't tell

[wispy robin]

man qu in tutorial is so far from reality

[stray siren]

i do

[dapper skiff]

What 16/16 does to a chara

My qu orbs economy boutta get as complicated as current economy in my country

[woven haven]

base S ew

[dapper skiff]

That's base s?

[woven haven]

ofc

[dapper skiff]

What her ss do again

[woven haven]

you’re spending 2 3pings

[dapper skiff]

Something about entering fray

[woven haven]

when ss is only 1

[stray siren]

iirc Aether said last node is SSS-SSS+, try that

[dapper skiff]

3+1 already gave u 3 stack with ss?

[woven haven]

ss shukra

[vale raft]

Qu: Shukra

Skill - SS

To Climb Beyond an Endless World

Level 1 - Unlocked at S5

Upon performing Rimy Valediction, Tor Invocation, or Ascended Sovereign, Quell Their Spirits, trigger all available QTEs. Upon performing the fourth move of the Basic Attack sequence after a successful dodge, Qu: Shukra will immediately activate Enter the Fray. Activating Enter the Fray this way does not grant an Engravement point.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SS

Upon performing Star of Dawn, Indite Their Souls, immediately gain 1 stack of Soul Ripple. After performing Rimy Valediction, Qu: Shukra gains 3 stacks of Soul Ripple for every 3-Ping performed during Sovereign's Accession for the next cast of Star of Dawn, Indite Their Souls. After performing Tor Invocation, Base DMG increase effect of Ascended Sovereign, Quell Their Spirits granted by each stack of Soul Ripple increases to 45%.

[dapper skiff]

Or did I got it wrong

[woven haven]

read the damn kit

[wispy robin]

the rotation is you start from dodge ult then rotate
but you need to learn a timing when the matrix reset comes, you can't really speedrun her rot so you need to do precise ba waving for timings to match

[dapper skiff]

Wait

Were u talking about I did 3+3 for follow up?

[tender vessel]

s+ shukra

[vale raft]

Qu: Shukra

Skill - S+

Mine Accession, Forevermore Etched in History

Level 1 - Unlocked at SSS3

Extra DMG Bonus of Rimy Valediction, Fleeting Frost, and Tor Invocation increases by 50%.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SSS6

Extra DMG Bonus of 3-Pings, Tabula Akasha - Inscribe, and Star of Dawn, Indite Their Souls increases by 50%.

Level 3 - Unlocked at SSS+

Extra DMG Bonus of Ascended Sovereign, Quell Their Spirits increases by 45%.

[dapper skiff]

:kekl:

[tender vessel]

[woven haven]

[dapper skiff]

Yeah I was only asking about hold dodge core

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/836100799859654663/1310769865191194635/qu_be_like.mp4?ex=67466d10&is=67451b90&hm=2d9ee94c2603062541936ce5ca9ad2a472e675ba66230b58a0e2443a5d06bbf4&

[tender vessel]

3s shukra

[dapper skiff]

Broda
#📨・bot-info exists

[tender vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-chase-ltg-running-lowtiergod-gif-2430341001542408875

[dapper skiff]

How often you do hold dodge tho

Whenever it is available?

[wispy robin]

[dapper skiff]

So everytime it is available?

I mean her sig force matrix on core too

[wispy robin]

1 hold dodge 1 hold ba 1 hold dodge 1 hold ba....

[dapper skiff]

Idk if there are case when it's better to just let sig do matrix

Instead of hold dodge

[wispy robin]

it's like separate timing from sig matrix

[deft apex]

Its hands of time timer

She gets 4s to hold dodge during matrix

Otherwise she wont do it

Also u need feathers if im not mistaken

[wispy robin]

but you still need matrix to work so you need to time it with your bas

[deft apex]

Yea idk timings and stuff

[dapper skiff]

[wispy robin]

if you do rot too fast your 2nd hold dodge won't be there

[deft apex]

Yea probably cuz you'll have no orbs to actually get feathers and do it

Too hungry

[wispy robin]

it's fine as long as you get blessed with singles and not waste on doubles

if it's full triple it's literally over

[woven haven]

no it isn’t

sig matrix is regular matrix

[wispy robin]

i mean the hands of time thing has its own timing

[stray siren]

Almost the entire game, I switch 3-1-3, holddodge,3-1-3,holddodgeI don't know if I'm playing well, but it works for me.

[woven haven]

core shukra

[vale raft]

Qu: Shukra

Skill - Core Passive (Lv. 18)

Blade of Mandate - Gnomon Dominion

When Qu: Shukra enters Matrix activated by herself, activate Hands of Time for 4s. Gains 20 Energy every time she enters the battlefield.

2/5

[hazy sandal]

Uuuk — kozakashie—

[woven haven]

that is matrix

matrix effect lasts 4s too

[dapper skiff]

So you're telling me this is how I should play qu

[hazy sandal]

Tf

Are you kimchi

[dapper skiff]

livWhat

[hidden forum]

no im shibal

[hazy sandal]

I am Ziral

[wispy robin]

s rank is painful to watch...

[dapper skiff]

I don't think that's s anymore

[deft apex]

Why is shukra's fan tl so big

sig shukra

[vale raft]

Qu: Shukra

Dwelling Will of Inscription's Key ★★★★★★

Lucent Insight

ATK increases by 10%. When activating Enter the Fray, trigger Matrix if available and additionally gain 1 point of Engravement. When performing Tor Invocation, every attack additionally grants 3 Energy.

ATK

467

CRIT

241

Longsword

[deft apex]

This just turned into akasha keyblade

[stray siren]

yea i play like that

[wispy robin]

oh wait it's actually ss here

[dapper skiff]

[hazy sandal]

I forgor to edit posting last warzone

[woven haven]

wasted 3ping at start

also this is sss+ qu so just do sss rotation

[hazy sandal]

3.1/4.0/3.1

[dapper skiff]

That's the alternates to swap in cause that's qu start

No energy from 1st swap

[hidden forum]

am i watching powerpoint

kurai is that u

[hazy sandal]

30fps

[hidden forum]

[hazy sandal]

[foggy ridge]

why

[hazy sandal]

I am degrading my play

[dapper skiff]

There is diff rotation???

[hazy sandal]

Gosu doesn’t care machine spec

[woven haven]

you get 20 energy from swap in
3p is only 12

[hidden forum]

i took ur 2+3 wata rot and used it on tb hell

got 11s from it

my dalao

[dapper skiff]

I mean what else can I do

Haven't pulled her yet

Trial the best I can play

Maybe I should get to lvl 40 and unlock event

But I'm pretty sure her debut tutorial trial is still s

Putting that aside

[hazy sandal]

[dapper skiff]

How to do the sss rot

[hidden forum]

https://streamable.com/sf2tdy

like this right

[hazy sandal]

Isn’t 5stack run looks cool to rewind playing

[hidden forum]

frfr

[hazy sandal]

I always like that

Fr haha

https://youtu.be/_esxIR29Mio?si=mFdw1FHbarThSAZM

[hidden forum]

[dapper skiff]

@wispy robin

[quaint fern]

Guys do I really go for Watanabe or save? I got 23k gold tickets

I don't play as much btw

[dapper skiff]

Just go for him

[quaint fern]

How good and future proof is he? Like powercreep

[dapper skiff]

By the time you keep playing 3 weeks into qu patch you will get enough for another 7k to get qu

[dapper skiff]

Still the best fire tank at least until the end of 2025 for us

[quaint fern]

Oh nice

[clever schooner]

Changyu fire tank where

[quaint fern]

Who's the fire dps btw?

[dapper skiff]

Well if you're talking about the main Dps in current fire team

Epitaph is the main dps

Hyperreal, a fire attacker is just a sub dps to him

[quaint fern]

Oh I see, so is epitaph debuted or will be?

And who's the next character after him? She good?

[dapper skiff]

Already debuted

[onyx palm]

He is on global right now

[dapper skiff]

His banner is like 1 week left I think

[sly geyser]

3 days

[dapper skiff]

Qu Shukra also good

[onyx palm]

She’s very good

[dapper skiff]

That's what I said

[quaint fern]

Oh nice

[dapper skiff]

Dang

[onyx palm]

You’ll need her for ice teams

[dapper skiff]

Brick incoming

[wispy robin]

@dapper skiff https://stream.new/v/JYAuDjBY029sWjaaPNXgDa3A954XvJgkqWlcIXJ32Cvs basically this

[dapper skiff]

[sly geyser]

time to be quick

[onyx palm]

He’s until the 29th

Holy crap….

Todays the 26th? 💀💀💀

[sly geyser]

lmao

[onyx palm]

I swear I thought it was the 23rd or something

[dapper skiff]

Time to update the standard selector yet once again

[sly geyser]

dw u'll get it sooner than u think

[sly geyser]

bro's living in the past

[carmine mesa]

With the crunch, will the standard selector update mid patch?

[dapper skiff]

No idea

[onyx palm]

We don’t know

[sly geyser]

who knows

[onyx palm]

Let Korea server find out first

[sly geyser]

let them cook

[dapper skiff]

The speed up patches boutta mess up any kind of schedule and Update throughout patches

[onyx palm]

Yeah it’s gonna be a few busy months

[sly geyser]

I wonder how they'll sell skins

[dapper skiff]

Nothing is certain until stated otherwise

[shadow holly]

@jaunty beacon

[onyx palm]

2 years or content squeezed into 1 year

We bout to eat good

[sly geyser]

if by eat u good u mean burn out then yes

[dapper skiff]

That's sss rot?

[onyx palm]

I think I burn out when there’s nothing to do

I won’t burn out if there’s lots to do

[sly geyser]

fair point

[onyx palm]

I’ve been playing for months and I’m still wanting more PGR

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/emang-babi-kau-ini-gif-22277749

[hidden forum]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-posting-about-among-us-among-us-stop-posting-gif-20952496

[onyx palm]

Gimme more PGR 😭🙏🏻

[wispy robin]

i'm not whal

[sly geyser]

the lazy ass I am is pretty concerned

[dapper skiff]

So it's not

I was wondering why you do both core

Does is stacks?

[onyx palm]

I guess maybe I’m concerned I’ll omega brick my account by missing like 6 S ranks in 6 months instead of missing 3

[wispy robin]

wdym

[sly geyser]

dw kuro got u covered

[carmine mesa]

At point, might as well start a new account

[onyx palm]

But I have Wata, Lamia and CW

[sly geyser]

still bricked

u have to get everyone

[onyx palm]

But not omega bricked

[onyx palm]

Must get chrome glory

[sly geyser]

best husbando so yeah

[dapper skiff]

Nothing

[dapper skiff]

So this is how you play her everytime?

[wispy robin]

yes

[dapper skiff]

[wispy robin]

till wanshi ig

[dapper skiff]

[stray siren]

I forgot how to play Qu solo thanks to Wanshi

[grand jay]

You were right the first time

You cycle between 313 and matrix core

[deft apex]

Glb wont suffer too long with qu solo

[grand jay]

Lucky

[deft apex]

Thank god

[wispy robin]

even here jp is shafted
where my han + wanshi patch!!!!!

[stray siren]

Me?

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/emang-babi-kau-ini-gif-22277749

[gilded dawn]

Is it interesting to pull Lee Hyperreal now ? I heard multiple times Wata Epitaph completely powercreeped him but I know people are easily overreacting so I need a confirmation.

[stray siren]

Wata is better, and hyper will be replaced by Lucia

[shadow holly]

he's just shifted to sub dps but he's not a good pull rn considering you would be backpulling and also we're getting the schedule speedup lol

[carmine mesa]

Lee is severely depreciated, don't pull for him.

[gilded dawn]

OK thank you

I don't plan to wait for Lucia for a fire dps, but Wata will do the job greatly

[deft apex]

Oh yea so hyper lasted less than mech

[gilded dawn]

So I need an Ice and Dark damage dealer. Qu is coming, and Lamia is in the arrival banner so I guess it's my chance

[wispy robin]

even less considering speedup

[wispy robin]

theres 100% half anniv banner after qu patch with lamia

[deft apex]

Also wishing banner during qu

[shadow holly]

wtf
i just had a dark wz run so fast that i didnt get dlt orbs fast enough on the 2nd rot on last lamia swapin

[carmine reef]

ur such a gamer

[gilded dawn]

I start playing just before the BRS collab so I don't know what you are talking about. Can you tell me more ?

[wispy robin]

it's as simple as that, just additional 100% banner up to lamia that will last few weeks

[thorn creek]

There's going to be a banner that guarantee a selected S rank soon

[wispy robin]

1 char limit only tho iirc

[shadow holly]

yall are assuming they even have enough pulls to pull wishing banner

[thorn creek]

Since other banners currently will only net u a 70% chance for a selected S rank and u can be bricked

Im no assuming anything. just giving the bare minimum info

I could care less what happens to another life

[shadow holly]

ur such a gamer too lets game together

[thorn creek]

[carmine reef]

[gilded dawn]

Oh, that's great.
Thank you for telling me this
So, spending my card for Qu, then saving for that banner and I'm good

[shadow holly]

uh

[wispy robin]

be aware luna most likely comes right after qu

[shadow holly]

ur saving for the next debut banner so yeah

[quiet lily]

[shadow holly]

you're only gonna be able to pull wishing if you have surplus which is unlikely unless youre a spender

[gilded dawn]

I forgot about Luna, but that's okay

[shadow holly]

even if you had surplus I'd just spend it on more resos or sigs or cubs

[thorn creek]

Just ensure u have another 15k bc ready by the time the next S rank comes

[dapper skiff]

Sped up patch

[wispy robin]

if you are f2p ot's not worth pullnig lamia at this point since we don't know what compensations will be

[dapper skiff]

closed beta soon

[gilded dawn]

I'm a spender, but if I can spend less (the less the better), I will not complain haha

[quiet lily]

surely youre a 100$/month spender

[thorn creek]

das chump change

[gilded dawn]

[wispy robin]

yea if you can afford def get lamia out of it
lamialess game is pure suffering

[gilded dawn]

Let my deal with my gambling addiction

[quiet lily]

aite bet, time for u to clear all this patch packs

[gilded dawn]

Already done

[quiet lily]

nice, you got the license to pull on wishing target banner

[dapper skiff]

Yeh

Fk u kev

(ain't deleting)

[thorn creek]

ay

discrimination

[dapper skiff]

What

[shadow holly]

yess got wave spawn finally

[dapper skiff]

Wym

[deft apex]

[gilded dawn]

Seriously, I spent too much for my own good on this game.
But I have to slow down.
(I don't seek help, I know what I'm doing, I'm just laughing with you)

[dapper skiff]

U deleted ur own msg

[quiet lily]

[thorn creek]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-i-didnt-see-what-you-deleted-deleted-delete-discord-gif-25993865

[shadow holly]

alr ur good then
im assuming f2p by default

[white pulsar]

[shadow holly]

[unkempt grotto]

[white pulsar]

[dapper skiff]

We should smooch

[white pulsar]

no

[dapper skiff]

:(

[quiet lily]

[unkempt grotto]

I reject your rejection

[thorn creek]

smh i need gameplay help not gooning help

[dapper skiff]

*mental

[floral plover]

What is the most reliable way to farm blue tickets? After a week playing all I see is BC. Not that its bad, but It feels bad to use BC for blue gacha (Im at 50/60 pity)

[dapper skiff]

You mistyped that

[sage ridge]

hi, how can i realize witch element is the best against these bosses (shark/traiblazer)?

[thorn creek]

patience is the only way

[shadow holly]

theyre neutral

[quiet lily]

u used BC on standard banner what?

[thorn creek]

use ur best team

[sage ridge]

is there like, a guide to wich units is best against them?

[dapper skiff]

[How to Obtain Basic Construct R&D (Blue) Tickets](#📨・meta-help message)

[shadow holly]

rn the strongest teams are dark and fire so these

[floral plover]

I would not. But idk where i would get more.blue ticket. Hence the question

[thorn creek]

the current meta team

with lamia or wata as main dps

[sage ridge]

ty ! @thorn creek i tought i should choose lamia vs voodoo

[thorn creek]

other than the fos tutorial thingy, the only other source of blue tickets is with patience in the daily log ins

[dapper skiff]

Split ap

[thorn creek]

ye voodoo is doodoo to fight without lamia

[dapper skiff]

U have 5 attemp points on lamia, you can use some for voodoo and some for trailblazer too

[quiet lily]

dont use all lamia on voodoo, save some lamia AP for tb or even dshark too

[dapper skiff]

Or maybe shark too if you're still lacking team in general

[steady otter]

15 AP Lamia

[thorn creek]

attempt*

[dapper skiff]

Use your strongest team on higher difficulties for more efficient score accumulation for the week

[sage ridge]

oh... thnx guys i always used all attemp in 1 boss ;=;

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/kucing-tolol-cat-gif-23534645

[dapper skiff]

Latest units are strong enough that most of them can score great on bosses that aren't weak to them

[gilded dawn]

Anyway, thank you everyone for your answers

[dapper skiff]

So proper distribution may give you better overall score

Still

All of this still depends on your actual investment overall

[sage ridge]

i see c:
thank u so much guys

[dapper skiff]

[thorn creek]

That'll be 600 rc

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-chimpanzee-gimme-dat-money-gif-13040583

[sage ridge]

yeah my lamia team is kinda weak, i have tenebrion and selena

[dapper skiff]

Sir, that is not lorian

U r asking to the wrong person

[thorn creek]

Sir, ur not my dad

[raw swift]

[thorn creek]

[dapper skiff]

Or am I?

[thorn creek]

WAH?!

[dapper skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/bradley-belt-take-off-gif-1313222693264484168

Now get yo ass here

[thorn creek]

https://tenor.com/view/woman-running-away-scared-meme-gif-20081024

[quiet lily]

[dapper skiff]

Whaduhelll

[steady otter]

[steady otter]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-cat-gif-25407007

[thorn creek]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-cat-gif-16534979835682612734

[wispy robin]

do they put leaps into v1 beta

[thorn creek]

who tf ghost pinged me?

[hidden forum]

@thorn creek hi kev

[thorn creek]

oh hai

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-happy-jumping-gif-26555219

[hidden forum]

[thorn creek]

acceptable person to ghost ping me

[hidden forum]

it wasnt me btw

[raw swift]

[thorn creek]

no longer acceptable...

[lavish slate]

is sss+ wanshi lucid dreamer self sustaining

[wispy robin]

i more care to see the feral leap than lilith ngl

[hidden forum]

[raw swift]

wait... Feral is getting a leap?

[wispy robin]

well shes the next relevant char in the row

[raw swift]

[lavish slate]

well

[warm cobalt]

anyone got the planner for pgr?

[lavish slate]

bianca got a leap and then alpha

so feral being next is unsurprising

[quiet lily]

yesnt

[warm cobalt]

wat

[raw swift]

yesn't

[quiet lily]

it was planned very well until...

[woven haven]

nah new gen amps are coming
we’ll get lee-lamia leap instead

[raw swift]

synchro plan..

[warm cobalt]

I came back just now after 3 months so im confidently... lost rn

[raw swift]

Synchronization is coming, no more planning. Just whaling

[wispy robin]

the current plan is waiting 23dec to see how kr server speedup campaign will go hard to plan over that

[woven haven]

they’re speeding up glb with 2-3 patches crammed into one over the next year

[warm cobalt]

damn

[woven haven]

so bc plan is literally out the fk ing window

[warm cobalt]

back to back to back banners in 1 is diabolical

[wispy robin]

it's luna + 2 a ranks for start

[woven haven]

first combined patch is luna teddy bridget all each within one 6 week patch

[steady otter]

bc plan rn

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936177367230058496/1304291012532899911/200w.gif

[warm cobalt]

💀💀💀

[dapper skiff]

Absolute cinema

[woven haven]

good luck with triple the spending

[raw swift]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[warm cobalt]

sooooo should i pull what a noby rn

[wispy robin]

also new gen attackers already came and they still leap old ones so

[dapper skiff]

Also how to 3s qu rot

Haven't found one

[distant wren]

I know how to
in theory that is

[wispy robin]

why you need to know something you will never get

[woven haven]

hold atk after entering core
then 3ping to interrupt it

[fringe kestrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936534258741301298/1310799760700997632/Eh.mp4?ex=674688e8&is=67453768&hm=e5397c49ed50c9cdede8633c2a908cdbcc996b4005e287d52746a953b6382753& is there something im missing for this hell shark

[woven haven]

then do whatever hold dodge or hold atk core

[dapper skiff]

Broda
I do have 3s acc

I told u

[woven haven]

that’s all

[dapper skiff]

I have ss0, SSS0 and sss3

[wispy robin]

[woven haven]

sss shukra

[vale raft]

Qu: Shukra

Skill - SSS

To Become Dawn's Star and Vanquish the Evil

Level 1 - Unlocked at SS3

When Qu: Shukra activates Enter the Fray, her Extra DMG Bonus increases by 25% for 8s.

Level 2 - Unlocked at SSS

When performing Rimy Valediction or Tor Invocation, Base DMG of the current cast of the skill increases by 50% for each point of Engravement Qu: Shukra currently has. Upon performing Fleeting Frost, performing Rimy Valediction or Tor Invocation during the current Enter the Fray duration will consume 1 point of Engravement to grant buffs from both Rimy Valediction and Tor Invocation for the next cast of Star of Dawn, Indite Their Souls and Ascended Sovereign, Quell Their Spirits.

[woven haven]

go read it now

[distant wren]

just watch empress vid ezpz

[dapper skiff]

Like after the initial 3+1

[raw swift]

S+ rot

[distant wren]

real talk tho s+ should be the same as 3s as after that point it's just dmg

[wispy robin]

is there even any s+ that change rot

[rocky wedge]

i learned how to play on a f2p acc by watching setsu, empress and ackman xd

[distant wren]

you know if u hold atk when her core is less than 3 stacks, she does a dash then jump over move right? in ss u never do that move
but 3s qu use that move after core activation, then u cancel it with another 3p, then do the full core stacks hold dodge/hold atk

[lavish slate]

sss wanshi lucid dps is less than ss qu shukra right?

[woven haven]

yes ofc

oh that

[lavish slate]

sorry forgor

[woven haven]

eh it might be a bit more equalish

[quiet lily]

i bet this guy wanna skip qu

[woven haven]

but you run both anyways

[lavish slate]

i was planning to get qu until the patch speedrun

ill get qu when i have wanshi at sss, thats when future selector is used for qu

[quiet lily]

patch speedrun doesnt change anything. you would still get qu either way

[lavish slate]

im doubtful if the reward is sufficient enough for me to atleast sss wanshi day 1

[distant wren]

with 3s rank every time you do this rot her ult will have both the benefits of the short+long ults, only 1 ult 3p to full stacks on short version AND keep the huge dmg bonus from long version