#📨・meta-help
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maybe S rank will merge with A rank only?
Nah A S S formation
s rank + free unit only

then how do you solve this one
im telling u they will move lilith after nanami
their goal is to catch up by december
skill issue
then ish selena? even worse
damn we catching up to CN next month?
in a sense, there is leeway
U gave me geometry class flashbacks with that

we dont know if selena is actually after lilith

2025 
its just a teaser and people assume she is after lilith
was gonna say, this december would be wild
it would be so funny if she was
? how
4 s rank back to back to back to back is crazy

thats like 10 patches?
not even chernobyl would compare to the meltdown that would ensue

f2p days are over pgr now have to fund the wuwa
we're still in ishmael patch rn
good
u never said 2025 specifically that time 

oi dwagon what did u say

nobody talking about you
me asian too bish. brown on brown
nobody talking about you (2)
nobody talking about you (3)
nobody talking about you (4)
nuh uh
yuh uh
U guys are such a good friend 🤗
3 patches
Time to enter onslaught ppc and slack
DMC?!?!?!
Lmao
Dmc 
Actually cn should get dmc collab after lilith
hell no
But dmc a-ranks instead
4 S rank back to back 
I think we can safely assume we'll follow KR schedule

Skip qu patch

We don't have to suffer solo qu
Isn't that always been the case?
in context to the condensation of patches, no
Well kr is ahead of us so I imagine the news is more urgent
Wuwa money trust
wuwa collab with idolmaster please 
who they
if wuwa is on the verge of eos with their revenue, pgr should be 6ft underground
we still need qu tho
We'd skip qu fr
Skip the hag

We can skip qu for the integration right 
Btw can anyone link the kr schedule
what a copium way of thinking
That's just image
Aren't KR already in like Qukra patch ?
ain't no way kuro giving away weap tix
The dates are above I think?
That's first patch only
That's the main story
2 main stories and 1 extra record between 23th ~ 6th
Oh


I just want to see the rest of the schedule
Releasing the sequel first before prequel
Still lasts till the end of their patch tho
Mb all story somes at once not like i caught up to it
Luna Oblivion rateup from 12/23 to 2/5
Teddy rateup from 12/30 to 2/5
Bridget rateup from 12/17 to 2/11
Maybe they'll release the story all in one go
Yeah but still releases before

So this is what they mean by 6 weeks
Nah story is in order of release
skip luna for teddy

Well duh
Teddy first then luna then bridget
I mean like release teddy Luna and Bridget story all in one go
Yeah they will release in that order
Teddy's patch main story - 12/23
Luna's patch main story - 12/30
Bridget's patch side story - 1/6
looks like glb schedule will be after qu

KR is in Qukra patch no?
Kr already in qu patch tho, so glb might be different
Our schedule might start from Qukra
Ye

Releasing teddy story on Luna rate up
I wonder how they'll handle skins
Imagine
they should let us enjoy our 3.5 anni first 
No anni
no
Nuh uh

that's called the counter effect
wait
globlul shaft increased to 310%
I can’t read kimchi


Who said that I am a kimishi
@hazy sandal have you even tried using Vanguard's Flame of Hope music in your video?
Goes hard tbh
yeah its a banger
No. This week video is about the 4cottie Ice Qu warzone run with GF2 music

thats a thing?

Shi* got me copyright claimed

Faster ult + ult damage

Yea
I got it the moment you said 4 Cottie
Faster ult + ult damage
Wanshi holding zu already
I didn’t like 4 Zuwen Qu from the very start

At her release
Doubt it works for SS0

Yea figures
She’s 18 wdym

Although its ‘legal’
I think this works solo Qukra too with Glory holding Zu Eins ? @hazy sandal
im a miner so i guess i should watch out

All that stress got to her, she looks 30

No.
I mean
Isn't she too not a hag by age
Why not
Like trigger qte for 15 + 15 shred
Well I can understand that it won't be 100% uptime
Think this is the problem
Also gloria+lantern on glory, and 10% edb from qu using 4cjy herself
Could I send my current characters rn and get an opinion of if my acc can be salvaged after not playing for since Alisa?
Lmao
#퍼니싱 #퍼니싱그레이레이븐 #pgr #pgr_cn #punishinggrayraven #パニグレ
I can understand why it's not worth to use 4cottie on qu
I don't understand what you are saying most of the time but I still like your videos
This video is not kimchi language how could u-
dv
empy doesnt have much on field time to double core + ult
You think I know kimchi ?
Chatgpt help u
the chrome vid is in english…
I don't know any language except 2 of my hometown language and Fish and Chips
No like
I don't understand why harmo Glory
My brain unable to process anything Glory

wdym sync patch means glb will have same patch duration with CN 

If you were on a fresh account would you use the standard s rank selector for Lamia and get her on the 40 pity asap or just get whoever off the 40 blue ticket pulls and then use the guarantee for Lamia? 
Kr server gonna combine Teddy, Luna, Bridget in 44 days 
what's the difference...
You would just have Lamia a lot sooner at 40 pulls than having to hit 40 and do another 60
F2p finished

i mean it's a waste to waste the discount to gamba S rank unit right..?
i live for the gamba
I would assume so lol
for clash do I use ss3 lightning or fire?
ice
not to mention it will be hard to collect another blue tix for lamia
blue tixes are really scarce
I only now just logged in after awhile what is the global synchro plan gonna do
no, this is not based off TW - this is based off global
im not blind, I can see what good players are doing with their smart but different ideals
If ur not aiming for a hero legend bounce and 1% ppc, u can definitely skip characters in glb
but unfortunately different is not allowed 
But the thing is, most ppl don't know wtf they doing
Can get 5% ppc and hero retain with xxi instead of Daren
yes and as I said, IF --- IF you know what u are doing, u can skip ONE out two specific chars
that time has now passed now, and i know im not wrong xd
There's a reason why I'm skipping garnet leap

since the people who know what they are doing that have done this are doing completely fine
imagine being overtaken by a wata / dps solaeter team when u have lee xdd
with 3 patches in 1
ofc 
nothing in my opinion, i am not a fighter
You are an assassin
Not a knight class
And I'm a priest
thats 7 weeks
i'm sorry we don't talk about whel glb acc here 
dont need to be whel in this game
Dw, GLB will get the same but in 35 days
in any scenario xd
people can cook wild stuff that u would think is dumb but ends up working
cough waiting for matrix on ss0 balt cough

@still moat hmm +70k with double ults
Will try the fast fast rot now and see if there is major diff, if there is then its probably better xd
70w is 700K ?
this is legend also, freaking fat mobs
No, the thing is u can still score high without hyper
ahhh i meant +70k sorry
Even pre wata, with ss0 empy
ahh
Ik this cuz I got trashed on by Lodi
well i wouldnt say high, but you could retain hero with that for sure
Can definitely hero retain and 5% ppc ez
i can retain hero and 1-5% ppc with skipping oblivion
ye and u dont need 1% lmao, u can be completely fine with 1-5%
Even in moon eater, Lodi has close scores with me despite using empy dps, altho tbf my fire is kinda brick
What was the difference in terms of dps between SSS+ leap palefire and SS0 Hyperlee
and those people prove the fact
TW is on pyroath now?

thats the great thing with this game is that u can do things like that if u are smart
I prove a fact that u can hero/legend bounce with solo cw

am i smart for skipping oblivion
yes
come here to NA/EU
i even told cat he was dumb before for skipping lee, but now i feel like the dumb one xD
Ew no
omg xenolao 
I thought cat didn't skip
he did, and he is beating many people with lee xDD
tho ye honestly once liv is on BP shop, lee will have a bit more impact i think
but not like fire would die without hyper anyway
Does ish actually do more dmg?

and i mean even with karen, dark had a very small peak from her release and then u have only 2 bosses to think about till Lamia in ppc
Moth and voodoo?
ye
U can do that without Daren
I got 1% on moth and voodoo weeks using cw

Asia ofc

I can still take it
ppc after lamia was suffering tho without karen, but again can still get away with it
ngl i hope our qu patch is expedited too
and i mean in TW if u want to compare, for me to get 1-5% is like getting 1% in global
so usually im stuck in 5-10%
yet my account is fine
ik, they said its gonna be 6 weeks tho
maybe 6 weeks for 2 patch, 7 weeks for 3 patch ?
i assume they are not gonna bother to triple the reward for 3 patch
I think qu only merge with teddy so ge prolly not happening
and ive had periods where i couldnt play as well like i literally didnt login for 2 weeks one time, days another time
so they just doubled it and make it longer
U gonna become a gurl for GE again? 
good, ge is trash
we r deadge
GE will still happening i think
GE every patch now
speedrun content time literally
Isn't GE on Luna
Fr
i wonder if they will skip some events
you know that they only copy pasted the event contents and rewards from CN
and just add the ones that were successful and boost rewards
they better not skip cooking lulu

||immunopolis||
There better be a new Immunopolis coming or ill be madge
they will prolly just copy pasted all events and rewards from CN and pack it up in one patch

i just wanna know how they will deal with each patch's CR
since new rot bosses will come every 2 patches
nice so i can play at f2p level now with other people on global
just on a different server
xd
the plan should be like :
step 1 : sync all patches in every server to be same with CN
step 2 : game is dying , populations are decreasing , merge the server
step 3 : follow the wuwa plan and release 2 S ranks in one patch
And huaxu's wz schedule
well tbh the wuwa second one is rerun
Any schedule/plannings is basically ||-||fucked
No exceptions

~~ or new A rank can only be pulled from rerun banner~~
everyones plans are screwed now lol
what about the prop hunt event for Hanying patch
I like goth qu tho tbh

She still stronk right?
Now. Guess who have 2 cubs to skill up on some patches 
u mean qu is still strong?
and what about the ppl who have their monthly pass activated 
wait u like the goth skin
Yeah
k whel
I thought the victory animation was good
well not no.1 in strength anymore
Anyone have the goth qu profile?
i think she is 3rd now?
me
Behind startrail and pyroath?
ye for sure
goth qu 
idk about luna also if she is stronger
pretty sure she is also behind luna
well not stronger but around same
luna is really really fast
U don't use Luna in exppc?
ye basically the rotation sheet is only correct till end of qu patch

Ok so how about Luna 168 rc skin

huaxu gonna go cooked


that one is super good ye
thats no peacock btw
its an eagle cosplaying as a peacock 
also the balt one is ajshdhajsd
well time to set everything on TBA
By 168 Luna I meant the one on her release
How much is 168rc

Pervert
dlt + shred
If ur talking ppc quick rot, ML
this skin?
best skin
flex 

ye its really good
top cottie tho 🧱
Look at em thighs
im checking someones character on their profile
oh ye i forgot u can just check in character screen lmao
Question what will be the builds of lee and epitaph on Polaris bond patch?

Still the same?
xdd
i have r3

cn, i wanna try ur pyroath rot
Yes, except 4 shakes on lee if ss3 and above

🪵
oh i use ml on r3 wata but u can try both if u want and see for urself

My lee is only SS0 and should I harmonize him?
no
No
he's ded
u only do that if u have extra harmo materials doing nothing, then its worth it for ss0 lee xd
don't violate him anymore with harmo
but dont forget garnet also needs harmony for 4 heisen
What about balter? Should I change the cottie to Patton? She's only SS0 too
herro guys
ye she uses 4 patton next patch
Even at SS0?
u can use the cottie still in ppc
ye, 4 charlotte 4 patton
u'll get plenty of harmo later 
ss3 and more 4 patton 4 cottie
what if i'm f2p
ye those things are also piling up for me
K whel
im f2p though
So I won't change anything on my fire team
4 Charlotte 4 Patton
f2p CN is different tho 
Ss3 and above is 4 Patton 4 cottie iirc

try harmo ing all sigs with being f2p in global 
i have 17 extra rn
4 Turing 2 cott 2 eins harmo doe
Honestly no matter what kuro does one side will be unhappy

Is this the max score I can get on warzone with this fire team? Leader rank btw
I'm f2p and I got some harmos


Prolly can get more, it's wata's weather
Would be difficult to guess if it's leader because the mobs scaling and overall hp are diff with hero
Omg p2w Akira ai
how do u still have the 6 stacks after exiting ult ?
@rocky wedge your new wz vid is up?
Alright
Free trial
Omg snazz new wz vid, time to go get tissue
u mean for lucia?
yea
show me where pls i cant remem xd
SS0 Lucia Pyroath | SS3 Watanabe Epitaph | SS Liv Empyrea
Zone: Single Mobs
Fire is super strong & very fun to play C:
Lucia has quite a bit of a learning curve though ngl, Wata as well if you are not used to playing him with shakespeare.
There is quite a lot of misinformation about builds regarding SS0 Lucia which I will mention in the commen...
i tried but she loses her 6 stacks
do i exit ult state faster ?
oh u 3p before leaving the field with her with this rot
not purple nick ewww
Am I the only one whose Norman mode challenge is missing? It should be reseted yesterday
Returns with qu
it's gone

prep for norman rework on qu patch
Free is free
it doesnt matter if there is no stacks ? i already linked the timestamp u had 6 stacks before leaving with 3p
well 3p+ba

9 actually xd
oh wait i see what u mean

yea 6 + 3
cause I levitated with 6 stacks
i do too
but once i exit the ult state the stacks is lost
ur rot is my first swap rot except the 3p before leaving
Can anyone remind me if conde also buffs veritas core basic after red + blu
its wild getting 3.52mil on 28 waves
Zone = Mobs
Weather = Empyrea
SS0 Lucia Pyroath R2 | 4 Heraclitus 4 Cottie
SS3 Watanabe Epitaph R3 | 4 Alphonse 4 Shakespeare
SSS Liv Empyrea R2 | 4 DaVinci 4 Guinevere
Yea it does
It does buff sniper mode arrows
Thanks
well no i also don't basic before levitating

yea the basic is to generate orbs
its needed for the double ult next swap
our rot is different remember
ye but i mean ive seen like every single ss0 lucia do that xd
its very tight u can see the second swap on lucia
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1kDbXeDEYd/?spm_id_from=333.788.recommend_more_video.2 and if u mean double ult rot, u also dont need to do that
yeah thats because her first swap is straight up ult, my first rot is hold ult
We'll be playing too fast
are ur score's this high tho 
Hyperskippers rejoice
is the reason really just because of strict dmc copyright ?
Glb is their main cash cow for DMC Collab
yea thats what i wanna test
tho not such a nice test with the zone u have now
thats also true
isnt it that trash mob zone?
yep
i mean like kuro doesn't want to get dmc's license everytime other server came like previous nier
but i mean u can see which score u get highest in the current zone if u do want to see which rot works better
thats what im trying to do now since im also in legend
so they decided to sped it up and get the license once
Probably that too idk
So
By that point every server will be at same month
Does that means glb patches get same duration as CN past that point?

probablyy
yes
0
well they probably will be all the same
Y'know what would be funny?
eos right after all server is same patch
ye that wont change
Gobla beta test with CN doko
They just gonna prolong global patches with rerun contents while CN still going forward with new contents so glb at least still behind CN little bit

gets a cease and desist from capcom
i mean it would be really good for the game tbh
i think we will have same patch length days after synced
granted they do it properly
well that means no cn exclusive skin bs like blue rose again
which i think if they do, they would be the first to do it maybe
I could finally do SSS+ gacha after 2025
Reddit is going crazy with new charas build

reddit is 💀
New patch cookings aren't limited to cn only anymore
Goosbwle beta test with CN let's goooo
it will be good for content creators as well
sync it and then merge all servers when the populations decrease 
wont be good tho if everyone quits cause it was done badly Dx so ye I really hope they already had a plan
i want to send @pine slate to elite wz
Does it also mean that goebaala feedback will be taken like CN?
||Surely not
||
The only place ur sending me is to ur heart
GLB legend retainers get demoted to Elite after CN merge

Nah, but we will get more patch length ig
my heart is only for atsu
So f2p more bc
Isn't he 6 ft under 
how'd you know
Where does glb people even send feedbacks to cn

r/pgr
or r/gachagaming
U just know that?
he kiwi for year 
He's already resting in peace for months
Prob a year already ig
I'm blind with time 
Its been 282 days without an Atsushi's video, I can’t stop shaking and I’m having severe mental breakdowns. I woke up today and immediately logged onto Youtube but all that greeted me was nothingness, 0 activity from Atsushi. I had a major panic attack but managed to calm down after a few hours. I am nothing without Atsushi , it is my life and my everything. I don't think I can hold on for much longer, put a note on my grave when Atsushi uploads again
282 days and still counting.
Erm I havent played this game since Wintry Shackles, did I miss something
Everything
ZENBU
brik
Well quite literally
Are there new characters?
roadmap
roadmap fked now 
Everything is pretty much

rip bc planner
if they fk up the acceleration im dropping
time to ask lloyd to make one
now the future is truly unpredictable
new roadmap after sync
they might even merge S and A rank patches and somethings gonna go down burning
The first thing going down burning is def dem wallets
got better score but then again this is like my second tries so i think i can still optimize it

also ppc rots sheet might be fked too
#📨・tech-support gonna blow up
ur not worth it
good luck my friend 🫡
U know who else gonna b-
D:
tbf you always got fked by kuro with offrate every patches
wdym i'm just stating facts

It's all part of the f2p plan
ye same man i think ye this rot could be much better xD

cause u also can lucia ult within amp passive
i can't imagine what if you offrate 2 S rank sigs in one patch 
Yea
a nice warm blanket from the dryer always makes my day
i can for sure kill this wave also, just need to play faster
seems doable

and my global acc in legend is stuck on 15 xD
ping me if you already done with your ice wz vid

how many dorm coins i needed for lvl 8 from 7 (i heard dorm lvl cap is 8 next patch)
should be 21 like the previous 3 levels
luna 3 vfx skins already
meanwhile wanshi 0
biased kuro
m*le debuff
Punishing Gooning Rapidly
How many time did she won edenfest?
Across all server
maybe amount of edenfest won = amount of coating 
Every Eden fest outside of CN are boted 🏃♂️
I am from the blue team I have invested my black cards in the blue team however what I am going to say will sound contradictory but it is the truth you have to vote for karenina so that she goes to the final and you have to vote for Selena also so that she goes to the final final and they will say because for a simple fact if there are two members of the blue team the votes may be divided And that would allow the red team to take the lead by winning the event it is not something that I know can be allowed because we all want to recover our black cogs
TRUE?

usually whoever wins edenfest got a new frame
And get multiple coating 
lets make sophia win for 2025
Then Jp gain a poster. And global a song

glb sux. didn't count 
Can u show profiles?
profiles?
Luna skin pfps

I wanna see how good they are
He's embracing the p2w mindset

My f2p plan requires me to buy a skin
168 rc skin
Whale when drunk and f2p when sober?
Wtf brick plan
Allocating competitive fund to cosmetics
Just got Watanabe epitaph what build should I go for him?
4 alphonse 2 cottie
Mid way luna patch we getting teddy?and mid way teddy patch we are getting bridget?
Am i seeing this right
Wait that's pretty good wtf
How will kuro compensate for the rewards
luna first, then teddy, then bridget
Ur so cute bbg
Can't tell yet, it's kr schedule
We prolly might get the same
kr schedule is global schedule
But probably the same since kr and global are on par
kuro aint got time to play around
when does teddy come to global...
No one knows
soon.
We actually don't know this time
is she free or was that a lie
Ofc she's free
Kuro ||-||fucked up schedule
</3

A Rank character
Wait i thought its saturday
Kuro recently made a change to make sure that we are synced up with cn by the end of 2025
Depends but not really
Good design yes
She's a rank support character
Don't expect anything for gameplay 
yaaa i saw
so when's BRS
or did that alr happen.....
That was almost 2 months ago
but i wanna play her shes so cute </3
Br what again
okay
i wasnt active back then so thats what i assumed
blackrock shooter
You can but don't expect to place high on the leaderboards
What's that
i got wata epitaph...i still need lamia and alisa
Never heard it
lamia is still in meta right...
She just came out bro
It's fine, idc about meta
Still the best dark DPS in the game
But if ur talking cn yes she's still meta
ok great
Not for long though
@still moat this rot is mald actually lmao
so ima get alisa and lamia next

who else do i need
Alisa is free
Everyone else coming out
Lamia can get from standard
ik i didnt play during her patch
Save ur bc for qu, pull all future units
i forgot abt qu omfg
Future s ranks

too broke for this
You should've expected that it's pgr
Every upcoming s rank is meta
What the best set up on deep warzone
im still using empyrea bruh
She's meta
yay
But reduced to mostly a qte bot rn
What happen
And in CN you don't swap to her at all
u dont?
any sec delay and lucia's last rot is bricked
Oh right
nice qtebot
You do my bad my bad I'm dumb

i do?
what abt crimson weave
QTE bot in CN
i dont wanna pull her.....
Nobody likes Crimson Weave anymore
okayy
also powercrept as main dps
shes qte bot in cn?
exaggeration
If they're asking on who to pull then they definitely don't have the funds to SSS crimson weave
She's benched below SSS
at SSS and above can swap provided good Feral Scent
no im ftp
How tf does this mfs get this time
Luck
38 seconds my goodness
Insane RNG
Wdym
instakill + RNG
How do u insta kill on this
Deadly collapse
It's luck based lvl


Wheres that
should i keep pulling for epitaph to get shards or save
do you have him in the first place
also do i need his 6* weapon or is 5* enough-
got him today but i had to go all the way to 60 </3
nvm im brain rot, im basic attacking every entry which is why my rot is slow lmao, stuck in mindset of double ult rot Dx
the base is Nanami SS cuz of the lightning team BP providing enough to SS Nanami off the bat
Now more than ever save
okie
i do whatever i want
Do u use Bridget in ppc with wata
Omg
Yes
why would u use bridget for ppc?
Why not
Muscle memory 
want one with Lamia core passive 
Res shred? What do u use with wata on fire ppc
double amp or pulse or mech
empy pulse

Pulse better than Bridget?


But if your empy isn't sss or lacks heals resos. You can put another amp
I see
I want wata to cover me in his red orbs 
remind me
do event banner pulls carry over to the next event
im kinda second guessing if i want epitaph
carries over, and you should pull both epitaph and shukra
skipping epitaph means no void sub-dps and fire subdps with lucia
bad idea with accelerated timeframe
you also have no guarantee they won’t change how the skin is priced
im 90% sure PGR won't screw us over with currency
they’re readjusting everything with the skip forward
they aren't that kind of company
they could just reprice the gacha skins to be rc only
surely

Yeah that’s a dumb argument they already said they were adjusting packs bp and monthly
nothing paid is safe anymore lmao

besides that lamia skin doesn’t matter after she’s getting her ass powercrept by a free unit
Honestly vfx skins should just be rc exclusive
surely lilith is gonna powercreep lamia
Just watch bro, Lilith 0.5 tick heal with no gather and no aoe dmg

she has to number wise otherwise dark is solidly still last place
Needs double qte to trigger 2 guin
do I look like I care about keeping up with meta?
meta channel btw
No but this is meta chat for a reason
Ask general sewer chat if you want to spend bc on gacha skins
yeah im not arguing that
honestly its not like they can mess up
Lilith is free with free sig and possibly free cub
mandatory sss unit
she’s also 1.6 years after lamia
just hope lilith is good enough at ss-ss3
Yeah, I'm just not that confident in her class
her base numbers can be as scuff as possible and they can just buff the fk out of her sss
Cuz tanks r usually the dmg dealers, not amps
that’s because they release the amps late
She isn't gonna have 100% shred unless there's new amp mechanics going on with her
unless they revive the whole empy powercreep
By that I mean the team won't have 100% uptime
at this point you have to accept that Scire ss3 field might be dead
Ye
and like yeah its bad but
sss should be daren baseline now right?
what exactly are you doing about it anyways
if lilith has good dmg
dark swap cd is still 15s
so its not impossible anyways
Lamia as a subdps can rotate out in 8s
Then just use scire after
DV Bathlon Scire
Lamia 4cottie
then see what lilith prefers to use
and scire can just shorten her rot with her leap?
not worth
you still just spin to ult its faster
esp on pc
once you hit 834 stacks just mash ult
Lamia leap burn dps
Whaduhell
after we get dark tank we probably will fully kill lamia unless everyone has short rotations
Surely Lilith won’t need Cottie to function 
surely
Bath on scire seems like kinda a waste with lilith idk
no bathlon scire means someone else has to hold bathlon
Yeah
I don't know
Haven't played non cottie
It's just that I feel like the bathlon dmg should go to someone else who isn't dealing no dmg in this comp 
Unfortunately it might be locked to her
you’re even assuming lilith can run 4bathlon and isn’t relegated to cottie
no eins holder unless lamia holds it and no guin holder
I know it's not looking feasible at the moment
for wz atleast
Honestly just solo Lilith with Ishmael and Daren
Can’t sir
Ish does nothing
for ppc......let's see if new dark boss benches lamia for solo or solo lilith
need attacker btw
Back to running Crapi? 
Nah just run random amp 

now see why everyone despises how ish class works?

if only lilith is self-sufficient to not need to hold 4 cottie like feral
can’t even use ish to sub for daren
her off field shred is locked to sig mem
sss ishmael also has lower shred than sss daren
But doesn't she have -3s swap
Surely that helps with Lilith lamia rot
Daren doesn't have off field shred as pure qte either
Not for dark
Basically all other elements have a tank that can reduce 3s swap CD so Ishmael tank effects are based on that
Dark doesn’t have a tank with swap CD, hence Ishmael doesn’t get that when acting as dark tank
Wtf 
ishmael only gets the bonuses of the BEST unit of the class/element
daren is the best dark tank
Yea and her SSS dark tank stats only give 35% dark shred











