📨・meta-help

[dapper skiff]

I want it too

[quiet lily]

in ur dreams

take it out

[dapper skiff]

Goddamn it

[still moat]

[dapper skiff]

Wasted my dream

[quiet lily]

finished

[dapper skiff]

Could have been a better use

[quiet lily]

[dapper skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/kyaru-smh-gif-26202091

[vague nebula]

S+ Qu was my wet dream fr

[quiet lily]

why are u wetting

[vague nebula]

but the wettiest dream was Hanying

[vague nebula]

idk

[quiet lily]

[dapper skiff]

It's such a good dream

U don't even realized u used 5* glory and SS0 kale with it

livWhat

[vague nebula]

nah it was A rank twink and A rank Wangshi equipped with 4 star weapon

[dapper skiff]

[woven haven]

i love sss qu

it makes your dmg not rise and fall like bitcoin stocks

but be more consistent over time

[dapper skiff]

[rugged cloud]

[hazy sandal]

Sounds like her flat balloon size concave

[simple basin]

Question about weapon banner is it always 80% chance to get the weapon you picked when hitting pity or is there a different banner?

[steady otter]

[mighty tusk]

always 80%

[steady otter]

dude trust me

[quiet lily]

so qu is sick

nice

[hazy sandal]

Qu is so sick that I got a tons of illness

[simple basin]

Ouch

[steady otter]

[pine slate]

Glad to know there's no one that can solo as efficiently as qu

[simple basin]

So there a chance I could get a really old character's weapon

[quiet lily]

qu is solo queen, I should sss her then

[pine slate]

K whel

[rugged cloud]

yeah, but then you'll use that for resonance

[quiet lily]

weapon banner is permanent, just choose

[simple basin]

I know that

[quiet lily]

and get lucky i guess

if lose, go agane

[simple basin]

I understand now why it's 30 pulls

[quiet lily]

u played qu?

[still moat]

[quiet lily]

must be nice to be playing the best solo unit

[steady otter]

i have to solo qu
2 times in my life
this is insane

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eating-box-boxing-angry-fast-cat-eating-a-box-gif-10756722895901289016

[still moat]

i not only played qu, but i also play her at S5 with 5* weapon

[quiet lily]

must be fun

[woven haven]

wtf betrayal

[mighty tusk]

skill issue

[steady otter]

[mighty tusk]

no one can play like windbellao

[steady otter]

nah, im casual player

[mighty tusk]

beaten by a casual player?

[quiet lily]

only windbell plays like windbell

[steady otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/865899693468418049/1199236675470118982/image0.gif

[opaque ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/boy-when-angry-lxxbig-shang-abi-chinese-tiktok-douyin-gif-23504730

[still moat]

[steady otter]

here, real dalao

mr dalao, step on me pls

[pine slate]

[opaque ridge]

Lilith when?

[mighty tusk]

lilith dark observer class?

[pine slate]

Phys attacker*

[steady otter]

playing guess game with kuro

[ripe stag]

Guys

We finally got GOD OF BRICKS

[rugged cloud]

I saw that harmo lumi

[mighty tusk]

harmo type zero

[clever schooner]

[woven haven]

observer is inherently the most whatever class in the game tbh

Its too restrictive

[mighty tusk]

even better
dark has always been the scuff team

why not make it even worse

[woven haven]

Nah just make dark amp dps

i’m so done with attackers

[quiet lily]

lilith dark amp

[woven haven]

hogging space in the team

[ripe stag]

I know what this dude will say
"Alisa cannot hold 4 phil 4 dv and still have the crit buff like lumi"

[vague nebula]

Imagine Lilith a 7th element

[quiet lily]

u mean void?

[mighty tusk]

void

make that 12th element instead

[opaque ridge]

bro gonna bite his words when the meta shifts

[rugged cloud]

[vague nebula]

oh wait

I meant 7th element

[vague nebula]

fine

[woven haven]

its not about meta its the restriction for the class

you can’t even select what class and element ishmael copies manually

like yeah balance and all that but that just feels clunky

[rugged cloud]

tru

[woven haven]

having to slot an attacker every team with her is also not nice

[vague nebula]

[woven haven]

esp when tank dps exist

[mighty tusk]

especially if said attacker deals less dmg than tank

[vague nebula]

[mighty tusk]

looking at nanami

[vague nebula]

[woven haven]

honestly the way pgr classes have skewed

[dapper skiff]

We just need a gen3 attackers now

[woven haven]

it heavily does not incentivise anyone but tanks and attackers from fielding rn
but tanks esp need to field themselves

Or you lose their omnipotent shred application

attackers need to actually do more dmg to pull their weight

the way amps/supports work also doesn’t really support them being dps

sure the dmg numbers are there but what do you lose otherwise

their heal buff carries through waves you don’t need them to reapply it

[mighty tusk]

the only amps I see that fields more than 5 sec is alisa and capri

and both are scuffed that they can't hold eins/cath /4 guin/ 4 phillip

[barren plank]

And they aren't fielded out of choice either

I can't spell

[woven haven]

tanks applying shred on and off field is important and off field shred is tied to onfielding

amps already provide everything as qte slaves

attackers now have branched into qte dps for better or for worse

[mighty tusk]

future amps giving 1 orb per sec for 15 sec upon ult when?

qte cd reduction when?

[rugged cloud]

[mighty tusk]

matrix reduction when?

[pseudo fog]

Why is co-op so funky, my attacks don't even lock onto the boss

[quiet lily]

there is a coop?

[woven haven]

also i hope they stop making trashy affix leaps tbh

[pseudo fog]

Maybe

[woven haven]

cw’s was literally 20% qol 10% dmg increase 70% umbra element

Like woooo… you buffed her ult dmg slightly…

[stuck sphinx]

Wdym crapi is supposed to use ein

[woven haven]

she wouldn’t have to if seraphine didn’t block dv and guin from co existence

[mighty tusk]

4 dv 2 eins 2 guin capri when?

or 4 guin 2 gloria 2 lantern/sam

[woven haven]

balter leap had pretty much no dmg increases besides some core/orbs increase, swordwaves and sss/sss+
+75% edb to ult1 holy

[mighty tusk]

balter leap has sss buff?

[woven haven]

sss recorded dmg 100% -> 110%
also core and orbs do slightly more base dmg

sss+ increases dmg bonus per ult stack

[mighty tusk]

core and orbs don't deal enough dmg

then cw leap is only slightly better it seems

at sss

[woven haven]

balter leap had one qol
qte trigger on matrix and that’s it

[stuck sphinx]

i mean if she was like fat cow it would be dv guin ein

[mighty tusk]

case in point, amps should have their element dmg buff not locked to memory

next gen amps powercreeping existing main dps when

[stuck sphinx]

still holding ein

i guess the ein hot potato is a bit annoying

balter gets cath eventually

[mighty tusk]

and alisa can't hold 4 dv 4 phil

[woven haven]

balter leap:
20% more base dmg for orbs
15% base dmg for core
moving during swordwave does additional dmg
75% edb for ult1 non sss
qte triggers on matrix
sss: recorded dmg 100% -> 110%
sss+: dmg bonus per ult stack 6% -> 7.5%

cw leap:
0.15% base dmg for next ult per stack consumed during slam (up to 90%)
hold dodge +60% base dmg
all orbs outside ult are converted to blue
slam now rerolls all orb colours and sorts them by colour
orb +50% base dmg
core charges faster after 3ping red/yellow
gain 9 energy on swap in
upgraded domain overlimit

sss: qte dmg x11 after ult2 permanently for that battle
sss+: 15% edb in ult mode

[stuck sphinx]

alisa trolling

[woven haven]

honestly very short leaps

[stuck sphinx]

insane 75% edb on ult1

[woven haven]

if you discount the affix buffs

[stuck sphinx]

wouldve been funny to see cw 75% edb on ult1

[barren plank]

That does way less damage than Balter Ult1 it would have to be like a 350% increase for it to actually be impactful

[stuck sphinx]

balter ult1 also does nothing

[distant wren]

couldn't get 10s, just missing a tiny bit

[unique jay]

Is it normal for this to happen when using Nanami?

[mighty tusk]

what is?

[stuck sphinx]

for what to happen

[mighty tusk]

if you're wondering why nanamech slowed down, it's because you got hit

[stuck sphinx]

spending 27s on her isnt normal

[mighty tusk]

it's deep blue wz

[unique jay]

It's not very detailed in the video, but if you look carefully, I suddenly wander around the map while fighting the boss. I'll record it again if the same thing happens.

[stuck sphinx]

are you talking about her trash autododge or her animation hitting a dead enemy

[austere prairie]

When i get Basic R&D should I keep summoning a single A rank? In my case since my main DPS is Lamia, Rozen?

[stuck sphinx]

that looks like a bug

[mighty tusk]

does that mob wander around that much?

even outside of events?

[stuck sphinx]

nanaschizo couldnt find a padded room so she went to space

[orchid vault]

Guys next prio after watanabe?

[mighty tusk]

qu next patch

roadmap

[vale raft]

Current Roadmap (as of Nov 15th 2024)

[mighty tusk]

all s-ranks that are not free are a must pull

[still moat]

oh no, its the infamous mewing liv pp

this guy gonna jump to 1 on sunday

[hazy sandal]

?

[raw swift]

Oh no

[hazy sandal]

Haven’t seen that nickname before in the page one

[still moat]

maybe im safe then

[rugged cloud]

[dapper skiff]

[mighty tusk]

[dapper skiff]

Inb4

It was some whel that just changed their name

Ur cooked

[still moat]

nah this guy fake whale

doesnt have hyperdawn

sss brs tho

[rugged cloud]

[raw swift]

[zenith thorn]

sss brs > sss pyro

[rocky wedge]

[jaunty beacon]

[unkempt grotto]

why is there still misinfo

[rocky wedge]

could be bought acc also

[still moat]

[still moat]

did u hit 10m this week

[rocky wedge]

i dont think i will since for 1 i am in legend and 2 - we have dark + ion/light

[dapper skiff]

[summer topaz]

man it seems like in hero its a free top 1 with a swap light team against all these cw soloers

[still moat]

[dapper skiff]

Brickion

[rocky wedge]

maybeee if I was in hero i could but in legend i dont think so

[gloomy shale]

yo what should be my next omniframe s rank. i already got lee

[still moat]

hopefully next week is another fire wz

[rocky wedge]

not like it matters, one guy's fire score is 11 mil xD

[still moat]

mobs wz sucks ass

[dapper skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1136502007914569791.png

[rocky wedge]

u can check on huaxu

[unkempt grotto]

also what's this about wuwa getting best game story award

[still moat]

[rocky wedge]

oh i can skip slash next round or ion, whatever that second zone is

man where the fire wz's smh this patch is like done in a week and a half

when did they add the buff / debuff indicators?

[still moat]

i dont have lamia so my dark wz gonna be

[still moat]

nanami

[digital moat]

[rocky wedge]

oh ye that will be interesting

from looks of it, ss0 nana could hit 5mil?

[dapper skiff]

How's malding light wz

[still moat]

doubt

[digital moat]

Legend I slacc

[rocky wedge]

i saw someone with skill issue hit over 4mil tho

[still moat]

u probably need sss cw for that

[distant wren]

the absolute pain when your solo cw scores higher than swap which is actually the more fun way to play 💀

[digital moat]

I got some juicy discount on steam instead

[rocky wedge]

swapping should be better in this zone

[dapper skiff]

Just swap better smh

[mighty tusk]

I've been trying to play solo after playing swap, it was lower

[rocky wedge]

i tried this a lot on my tw acc, alpha was pretty bricked without amp passive

[dapper skiff]

Sp delaying with swap light is peak

[distant wren]

nearly a mil diff when solo

[dapper skiff]

I missed one = bricked run

[mighty tusk]

I kept running out of orbs as r0

[woven haven]

skill issue fr

[digital moat]

I did 1.1mil in legend and left

[dapper skiff]

Just do 1.0 rot bro

[still moat]

like full ss0 team ?

[dapper skiff]

It works

[mighty tusk]

I do 2 rot

[rocky wedge]

u shouldnt try that strat without dlt

[distant wren]

blame garnet for not doing dmg

[dapper skiff]

U don't even have ss3 for double rot

[rocky wedge]

she doesnt have enough gas to do that

[dapper skiff]

What r u cooking

[mighty tusk]

something burning

[gloomy shale]

does anyone know which one should i get from the s rank omni selector with 10 options. or does it not matter. I don't have lami fish yet

[mighty tusk]

rigor

[rocky wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/intro-rosetta-pgr-gif-24323263

[dapper skiff]

You can pick toniris from sig selector by this point tbh

Alisa harmo is more futureproof than 20% def shred

[distant wren]

pls let leap garn actually deal dmg

i'm tired lmao

[gloomy shale]

rigor is the gundam chic right

[dapper skiff]

Good thing

[rocky wedge]

leap flare deals good damage actually

[mighty tusk]

it should, because of orb rearrange

[dapper skiff]

Light team never had any actual dmg since the first place

[rocky wedge]

she feels like a gen2 char after her leap

[dapper skiff]

So slight better dmg on Garn is good

[rocky wedge]

its not even slight lol

[mighty tusk]

even at ss garnet?

[rocky wedge]

and wdym light was a peak team for awhile after flare back then

[rocky wedge]

yes

[dapper skiff]

U can do follow up ult slam with dat

Good dmg

Idk about s0 tho

[rocky wedge]

she is like a different char

[dapper skiff]

No rights

[mighty tusk]

will prob leave garnet at ss

[distant wren]

i started because of her, the first few patches after her release was peak

[mighty tusk]

can't afford sss

[rocky wedge]

ye thats fine, i would say empy's is more important

but if u arent buying BP u will be stuck to Ayla > Alisa and wanshi

pretty much the newly released voucher S ranks

[mighty tusk]

I only need 30 shards for sss empy

[rocky wedge]

but this is ok since empy and karen will get sacced eventually

[opaque ridge]

what if new weapon resos, she’ll be the one to hold shred, heal passive and 8% atk

[rocky wedge]

flare im not sure if her sss holds any significance after nana

tho wont she have higher shred at SSS then ss0 nana

[mighty tusk]

if ss nanami with sss garnet but no sss cw, we can still use garnet

[opaque ridge]

4dv2guin2eins observer soon

Who the hell is flare

[rocky wedge]

my wife

[dapper skiff]

Just have R1 Garn

R1 for light shred so nana can use DPS resos

[dapper skiff]

[mighty tusk]

me

[opaque ridge]

cn players

[gloomy shale]

how about rigors weapon. should i just keep her 4 star weapon that comes from the selector or get the 5 star weapon from the exchange shop

[rocky wedge]

tw players

[opaque ridge]

[clever schooner]

No Rosetta sig?

[dapper skiff]

Went to toniris

[opaque ridge]

Burn rosetta sig for hanying

[gloomy shale]

no idea what that is

[clever schooner]

[mighty tusk]

weapon rigor

[vale raft]

Rosetta: Rigor

Gungnir ★★★★★★

Everlasting Brilliance

Damaging a target will reduce their Physical DEF by 20% for 8s. The duration is refreshed each time this effect is triggered. Dealing damage with small/medium/wide-area electromagnetic beam also applies a damage over time effect for 8s, dealing Physical DMG equal to 25% / 50% / 100% of ATK every second.

ATK

458

CRIT

230

Spear Shield

[gloomy shale]

nope don't have that

[opaque ridge]

[clever schooner]

Which 6* weapon you picked?

[opaque ridge]

Plume sig probably

[gloomy shale]

none i haven't gotten to that point yet

[opaque ridge]

[clever schooner]

Her wep is good pick fyi

[opaque ridge]

Is it really?

[distant wren]

it's either rosetta sig or the bow

[ripe stag]

Damn Wata just beat the shi* out of Nigel

[dapper skiff]

Nah, he'd get the "Murasama" blade from the selector

[gloomy shale]

so just save the 5 star chips aight then

[opaque ridge]

Physical sucks ass rn

[dapper skiff]

It's always has been one

[gloomy shale]

i haven't played that game for 5 years ngl

[mighty tusk]

skip balter fr?

[dapper skiff]

Yup

Less trouble

No need to mald phys anymore

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1174906710285090876.gif

[opaque ridge]

Real advice

From real helpers

[deft apex]

[vague nebula]

same

[mighty tusk]

because I won't have sss cw on day 1 of her leap

[vague nebula]

nanami will have matrix lightning

[vague nebula]

because i am gonna bench that hobo

[dapper skiff]

Rip bozo

Cw sig gonna be reso fodder fr fr

[vague nebula]

not yet
only after new lightning attacker

[dapper skiff]

Actually

I should still get cw sig

Harmo it

[vague nebula]

true

[dapper skiff]

So it can hold 4 DV 4 Heisen for nana

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1154393445113274399.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=clueless

[vague nebula]

fr fr

[naive apex]

Oh, I didn't notice how little time there is left of this patch. I think I calculated my harmo mats wrong and Qu will get delayed a bit. Oops.

[deft apex]

Phat whel

[hidden forum]

If u have a 2k rc total top up you’ll get a free set of 25 harmo mats next patch

[naive apex]

huh

I wonder if I've been whaling that much

Oh yep, almost exactly. Pay to win.

[hidden forum]

[naive apex]

Money saving me from my own dumb mistakes.

[hidden forum]

U can get another 25 at 15k rc

[naive apex]

Also patch adding one new set of enemies for achievement rewards, right?

[bold thicket]

Dam when will simulated siege get their A rank trial characters leaped lmao

Guessing it's never

[rocky wedge]

🤝

[dapper skiff]

Legs

Time to learn 5* qu

[median spade]

https://tenor.com/view/真尋射爆-gif-4215101428231110151

[visual topaz]

They are but most likely lvl 1

Rozen gets leaped orbs this gb rot in eu

[ripe stag]

@visual topaz you play on CN right ?

[ripe stag]

I have it R1 harmo

[dapper skiff]

Qu patch in kr is 37 days

[still moat]

[onyx palm]

until just before christmas

[pine jay]

vera rosen

erm

char rozen

[still moat]

build rozen

[vale raft]

Vera: Rozen <:a_rank:1290613305416880169><:support:1290613751242035303><:dark_element:1290613554923438102>

Main Support Set

Usage

QTE Support Healer/Buffer

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

QTE support set
Used at all ranks.

Memories

4x Da Vinci
2x Guinevere

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Any ATK+15 Variant

Harmony Recommendation

None

[pine jay]

ty

[visual topaz]

Never played

[velvet agate]

k whel

[hidden forum]

Me f2p

[velvet agate]

You lie at the same pace as you breathing

[restive grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1193541472058888282.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=lamiawiggle

[hidden forum]

[ripe stag]

Seriously ?

[deft apex]

I do if you need help with something (though if it's old units you can forget it)

[wheat jewel]

How do i make eclipse heal other allies? Coz her orbs dont seem to heal them

[ripe stag]

It's not me
Dustfly needs some help

Can you ?

[ripe stag]

You qte

[deft apex]

dustfly sama

[wheat jewel]

Um what is that ? I started yesterday

[deft apex]

i can sure, depends on what he needs though

[ripe stag]

QTE is short term for Quick Time Event

so, you can see that in every team, every character is place in a colour coded slot right?

Blue red yellow

[wheat jewel]

Yes

I thought that didnt matter

[ripe stag]

Can you contact him

[austere prairie]

Is there any Rank A unit I should focus on the basic banner?

[ripe stag]

We have red blue yellow orbs for every character

Basically,
Say your Eclipse is on Blue slot
Your onfield unit pings a 3-ping blue orb
You'll see that the blue frame around Eclipse's pic will start glowing and pulsing.
Click on that while it's pulsing and it'll let eclipse come onfield for some second and do a move

That's a QTE

[wheat jewel]

Ah

So who do i put where

[opaque ridge]

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[ripe stag]

TF IS THIS

[opaque ridge]

[wheat jewel]

Or it doesnt matter ?

[opaque ridge]

divine punishment

[ripe stag]

For you it doesn't matter

[wheat jewel]

So basically do a 3 blue orb ping and click on her?

[ripe stag]

Yes

[wheat jewel]

Thank you

[austere prairie]

I figured this out a while ago, since my Fish can only ping Red and Blue on burst, I realised I could leave her on yellow

[ripe stag]

Wait

[wheat jewel]

Does it say ingame what their qte does ? And if yes where is it ?

[austere prairie]

?

[ripe stag]

Yellow blue on primary form

Red blue on dark tide form

[wheat jewel]

Found it thank you

[ripe stag]

Oh yea
Fun fact
SS lamia can ping all QTEs if available on her hold atk in burst form

[austere prairie]

Yeah, since most damage comes from dark tide,

[rugged cloud]

yes, that is indeed the correct position
dv on rozen?
cause dv is good on blue

[austere prairie]

I was thinking of farming her alr

Dv?

[rugged cloud]

Dive wastes time, no?

I only use it whenever I don't get blue in fish form, to proc qtes

[ripe stag]

Kills low hp waves

[rugged cloud]

davinci memory

[ripe stag]

I use it to retrigger the qtes

[rugged cloud]

oh, true

[austere prairie]

All my memos

[wheat jewel]

Um what is the difference in fate and themed fate construct

[ripe stag]

DV Guinevere

On vera

[ripe stag]

Never pull Fate

[austere prairie]

I'm farming for Guinevere

[wheat jewel]

The first two.They just seem to differ in pity

[rugged cloud]

[ripe stag]

Must avoid any banner which has

• Fate
• Arrival
  In their name

[wheat jewel]

Why

[rugged cloud]

That's it
the pity gap is so big

[ripe stag]

Only pull on Themed

[wheat jewel]

Ohhh

[ripe stag]

Scam banners

[austere prairie]

Arrival is rerun of previous character?

[wheat jewel]

Ok thank you

[ripe stag]

Yes but backpulling is no good for F2Ps

[rugged cloud]

cause for f2p, if you are unlucky and have to pity on themed, you can still save for the next S rank
not so if you're on fate

[wheat jewel]

I literally joined coz i wanted that character so hopefully i get him

[rugged cloud]

do story for more BC
and event stuff

[austere prairie]

F2p is strictly no money at all spent? Cause if so I'm no F2P anymore

[wheat jewel]

Event stuff is mostly locked rn

[rugged cloud]

arrival only good for big spenders

[rugged cloud]

hmmm
cursed waves in special challenge has orange tickets for pulling

[austere prairie]

I bought 2 Monthly BC supply, Both BP and Serum pass

[wheat jewel]

I just started 2nd chapter.I doubt i have that

[rugged cloud]

I see
just do story for now

[wheat jewel]

Ok

[opaque ridge]

will do anything for black cards

[rugged cloud]

Yes, you're mostly gonna use those for weapons and cubs
not really worth pulling on arrival, especially because it's not 100% guaranteed

[wheat jewel]

Also whats the diff in omniframe and uniframe ?

[rugged cloud]

uniframe trash
kinda left behind and ignored by the devs now

[wheat jewel]

Ok

[wispy robin]

They give free guin set for clearing the story btw
Can put samatha for now

[austere prairie]

Once I get Guine, I'll have an optimal memory set for each of my main team

[grand jay]

Dude Ion is such a pain in the ass

[austere prairie]

Should I start getting Derketo Dupes ?

[grand jay]

I'm like a millisecond off from getting the 5th ult every time

I even went out of my way to ping extra blues so I have enough energy to do the first 4 in super quick succession

[opaque ridge]

ur missing s+ wanshi, thats why

[grand jay]

You might be cooking actually

[wispy robin]

I would get wata set first so you have 2 teams for ppc

[austere prairie]

I'll probably have to fix this abomination before resonance, Cottins on top, Derketo on bottom

[grand jay]

Can they buff Daren Ion so that Ion lasts a second longer

[wispy robin]

It doesnt really matter dont bother

[austere prairie]

Doesn't it on the late game?

[opaque ridge]

top cottie again

[grand jay]

I think I kinda figured out how the higher score Ion runs work though

[wispy robin]

You would have to scrap 45lvl memos which probably take week of serum to farm at this stage

[austere prairie]

If I start to do resonance I'll be considerably harder to fix this later on

[grand jay]

Looks like they ping a bunch of blue orbs so all the excess energy can be used for the 3rd and 4th ults to get them off super quick

The 5th ult is near impossible since it has super tight execution especially when you need to ping the extra blue to get the energy necessary

[opaque ridge]

why are u telling us that, ur scaring all the global players

[grand jay]

Just warning them now

[sly geyser]

we still have some months before starting to worry about it

[grand jay]

Ishmael and Ion Lucia are the hardest characters to optimise by far

The dexterity needed

[cinder turtle]

worry about what

[sly geyser]

oh nyo

[opaque ridge]

dexterity needed at SS?

[rigid coral]

Is this what I have to aim for on Lamia? And is this true for all characters? Like the ingame advice

[dapper skiff]

No

[sly geyser]

About all the affixes and wz optimization

[grand jay]

Definitely not Ishmael.lmao

SS0 has no rights

[dapper skiff]

In game recc straight garbage

[opaque ridge]

lamia uses 2 cottie, not darwin

[sly geyser]

dw on lamia lmao

[rigid coral]

4 Derteko and 2 Darwin?

[sly geyser]

no

never follow in-game recommendations

[slender aurora]

2 darwin

[rigid coral]

Ooh oops sorry. Ment 2 Cottie and 4 Derteko?

I can buy 6 6 star memories in the event shop.

[sly geyser]

yeah

[rigid coral]

Which slot goes Cottie?

[opaque ridge]

0506

[spiral merlin]

04 06 if you’re normal

[sly geyser]

0406

[rigid coral]

?😅

[opaque ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-rayleigh-silvers-old-man-tears-gif-6827173038490503333

[spiral merlin]

[sly geyser]

but I think 0405 is better

[rigid coral]

What's difference?

[spiral merlin]

None

[sly geyser]

there's none

[ripe stag]

Difference is
Aesthetic vs Laziness

[rigid coral]

I will do 5 and 6

[spiral merlin]

[sly geyser]

[rigid coral]

How do I know this for future characters? What Memories to buy?

[spiral merlin]

build lamia

[vale raft]

Lamia: Lost Lullaby <:s_rank:1287636749052412026><:attacker:1285839106240417803><:dark_element:1290613554923438102>

Main DPS Set

Usage

Main DPS

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set

Memories

4x Derketo
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

Cottie

[grand jay]

Oh yeah and I think it's wise to 3 ping blue before the 2nd ult

Even though you already get enough energy for the 2nd ult

[rigid coral]

Thank you

[grand jay]

It just makes it so that 3rd and 4th don't require more pings than needed

[rigid coral]

And last question. How do I get 5 or 6 star weapon for her and other characters?

[grand jay]

I still think they need to buff Daren leap

[sly geyser]

6 star only via gacha

[still moat]

i wanna try ion but i dont have daren sign

[sly geyser]

5 star via coop

[grand jay]

The orb rng and 12 seconds for Ion mode is torture

[sly geyser]

random drop or 3 weeks farm

[grand jay]

Dont

[opaque ridge]

wtf is this ionshit

[grand jay]

It's not worth the trouble

[dapper skiff]

Why Daren sig

[still moat]

dlt

[dapper skiff]

Just solo and yolo hyperdawn for ion smh

It's not dat hard

[spiral merlin]

First team to ever score 0 points

[grand jay]

I wish that were the case...

[sly geyser]

we need an A rank ion construct fr

[opaque ridge]

just get 50,000 and call it a day

[digital moat]

You need dlt for ion daren?

[spiral merlin]

Yeah

[grand jay]

Yeah because you need to get enough orbs to fill up Ion gauge

[opaque ridge]

u do?

[digital moat]

Ig it shouldn't be a problem since 8% shred is useless

[spiral merlin]

sss+ is different

[digital moat]

Just switch that out for dlt

[grand jay]

At least 11 orbs

[opaque ridge]

ion sounds like dogshit

[grand jay]

It is

[opaque ridge]

sss+ is different?

[digital moat]

ss0 ion

[grand jay]

It scores incredibly high though

[spiral merlin]

S+ actually gets orbs

[grand jay]

My Ion team is higher ranked anyways with R3 so

[opaque ridge]

cant relate, i wantap

[spiral merlin]

[grand jay]

That probably explains why 4S runs have an easier time with the first rot with Daren

Every other rotation after is easy enough as long as you get red orbs

[rigid coral]

Thanks

[opaque ridge]

thats like 1 in 100 runs

[digital moat]

Where is that 0 red orb ion daren video

[grand jay]

Yeah

[opaque ridge]

me swapping to karen with blue/yellow

press 3-6 orbs, 0 reds

[grand jay]

The moment I see no reds I just restart

[opaque ridge]

i need a new controller soon

[grand jay]

Why couldn't they have just guaranteed red orbs every rot

[ripe stag]

Anyone who's an old player in CN ?
A content creator named DUSTFLY needs help about Norman changes and need screenshots and clips

[opaque ridge]

uh, its called gameplay

[grand jay]

It would fix the biggest issue with her

Hi

[opaque ridge]

or else why would the restart button exist

[still moat]

there is literally 3 people that fits ur criteria talking here

[sly geyser]

how much does he pay ?

[opaque ridge]

cant be me, im playing runescape

[ripe stag]

0 penny per year

[sly geyser]

that's called exploiting

[digital moat]

1 feet pics per ss

[sly geyser]

[still moat]

what happen to fabio

[sly geyser]

[onyx palm]

don't really see any reason to do sim subversion anymore since I have all rewards

[sly geyser]

u can rest my friend

[grand jay]

The crazy thing about Ion is that it's tied with Lightning in CN meta

[onyx palm]

Was hoping the pull ticket would get me Lamia sig

[sly geyser]

unless u want to see urself on the leaderboard

[grand jay]

Despite Lightning being far in a way easier to play Ion still scores crazy numbers

[sly geyser]

for no extra rewards on top of that

[opaque ridge]

if u dont have lightning team built in cn, ur bricked fr

free feral and cw

[spiral merlin]

Qte bot 1 and qte bot 2

[grand jay]

For high scores you want Nanaknight

[opaque ridge]

why do u think i have eins on cw for

[grand jay]

She makes good use of Lucia downtime

[onyx palm]

doesn't Feral get field time?

[spiral merlin]

[opaque ridge]

crimson support

[sly geyser]

how does s+ nanaknight perform against phantom?

[opaque ridge]

'attacker'

[opaque ridge]

what the hell is phantom

[spiral merlin]

Tifa

[sly geyser]

iron maiden

[opaque ridge]

uh, bad

[sly geyser]

[grand jay]

I think CW is faster since Nanaknight requires a bit of start up

[sly geyser]

I thought it was just wantap

[grand jay]

Assuming your CW is invested in

[sly geyser]

CW still alive ?

[grand jay]

Otherwise you can throw Nanaknigjt

[opaque ridge]

put it this way, nanaknight will kill tifa 'faster' if she can one shot with core + ult

[grand jay]

She does need to 3 ping twice before doing so

[opaque ridge]

if u can do that with ur nanaknight and u cant with ur cw, thats the solution

[grand jay]

And her orbs are pretty slow

[opaque ridge]

u can cancel them

though i dont play with macro

cant relate to those perfect executions from ur local cn casual player

[grand jay]

Yeah lmao

I'm still traumatised by seeing that 8.5m score for Ion

How do they do it

[sly geyser]

just do your 4m and call it a week

[opaque ridge]

lots and lots of practice

[grand jay]

Must be yeah

[opaque ridge]

i used to have that passion/time, i dont now

[grand jay]

I wish I could at least see a run from their end

Oh well

[opaque ridge]

its just muscle memory

u can blindfold me and i can do some team's rot

[lethal sun]

Ok I’ll blindfold u then

[opaque ridge]

i'll fold u

[ripe stag]

Bruh

He can't find anyone who can give him screenshots of Pioneer Norman's screenshot and clips

[sly geyser]

it was just a joke

[ripe stag]

I know

[opaque ridge]

sorry, u cant joke around here

[ripe stag]

Ofc I know

[still moat]

https://tenor.com/view/mutsuki-bluearchive-gif-27128372

[sly geyser]

he can ask rex to give him some ss

[ripe stag]

Now get gun'd

[grand jay]

I wonder what Burn and Umbra will look like

Glaci too

Burn will probably be super easy lmao

[spiral merlin]

Umbra will be pain

[opaque ridge]

burn

[sly geyser]

probably more or less cancer

[grand jay]

Umbra is gonna suck ass naturally

[sly geyser]

than ion

[grand jay]

Might be even lower scoring

[sly geyser]

imagine playing wz with mobs regenerating HP

[grand jay]

Glaci is too early to tell

[opaque ridge]

wdym

[grand jay]

But we do know that Wanshi has decent enabling

[hidden forum]

@lethal sun another crash happened again

[opaque ridge]

umbra already suck ass coz cw is in the team

[hidden forum]

People don’t know how to drive istg

[grand jay]

Umbra is going to also require 15 stacks as well lmao

[opaque ridge]

dont care, just wantap

[grand jay]

Lilith better apply 3 stacks every millisecond or Umbra WZ will be skipped like every week

[digital moat]

I have a driver's licence and im scared to use a car because I'd crash

[grand jay]

Also CW is only going to be able to do a single rot since the leap slam is incredibly slow

[digital moat]

[hidden forum]

[grand jay]

Just a single ult

[digital moat]

Its manual too

[distant wren]

does it have to be cn?

[ripe stag]

Any server is fine

[opaque ridge]

just drive a bike

[ripe stag]

As long as it has revamped Norman

[distant wren]

k then what does he want screenshot of?

as long as it's pioneer and not standard lmao

i have my jp acc

[ripe stag]

Oh
Wait let me tell him to dm you about it

[ripe stag]

The one which unlocks for level 85+

Yea

[distant wren]

aight got it

[still moat]

rydle did u do machi yet

[distant wren]

no, only did red liv and hamlet

saving machi for last since i hate that mf

[still moat]

i wanna know whats my invest benchmark for machi

though idk if lamia is better she still have 2 AP

[hidden forum]

Do the painful ones first

Easiest ones last

[distant wren]

yeah you can save some dark+fire for it

[hidden forum]

So I’m gonna do red liv last

Machi now

Hamlet yesterday

[still moat]

who am i using to gapclose on dark or fire

[lethal sun]

Nice one

Where exactly

[hidden forum]

Capriccio or daren on dark

[still moat]

they can gapclose machi ?

[hidden forum]

Verrazano bridge again prob

Gotta check

[still moat]

i thought daren is short

[hidden forum]

💀

[hidden forum]

It works

[turbid bridge]

Red orb + hold forward

[hidden forum]

Red gap close

[still moat]

i'll try tomorrow ig

[turbid bridge]

Same for Empyrea but yellow orb

[distant wren]

gap close? not happening if no infinitas

[hidden forum]

Just mald for red

Can’t be that bad

[lethal sun]

Pinging orbs on Karen

[still moat]

just infinitas them 5head

[opaque ridge]

wtf using karen for gapcloser

[lethal sun]

Yea man

Cope era

[hidden forum]

That red really sends her flying

Not to the level of hyperreal ofc

[still moat]

what about fire

[hidden forum]

Liv yellow I guess

[lethal sun]

Empy yellow

My favorite

[still moat]

whats the ap split gonna be ?

my cow is ss3 r1 for comparison

[still moat]

@distant wren

[distant wren]

idk tbh, why don't u do all ice tmr, then try again with fire/dark on thursday?

[still moat]

that works

[distant wren]

as long as u don't accidentally use your fire/dark qte members on ice and lose ap for it

[snow tapir]

Just got this why he's weak

[still moat]

i can gapclose with wanshi

i think

[hidden forum]

@lethal sun bro it was a car that got caught on fire

Caused the lower lane of the bridge to get closed down

[unkempt grotto]

tf yall taking about

[hidden forum]

[unkempt grotto]

there's like 4 diff topics ongoing

[snow tapir]

Since i am pulling for watanbe, i should choose lamia here right?
Is she important though?

[unkempt grotto]

now it's 5

[snow tapir]

Everything everywhere all at once

[onyx palm]

Lamia is very important

[lethal sun]

[valid moss]

lets build a Fire team since youre pullin for watanabe

[paper bone]

Do I just split fire low diff fish high diff for ap this week

[hidden forum]

How’s ur lightning

Can try using it on hamlet if fire doesn’t work

[paper bone]

222 322 double harmo

yeah ult kill

[pine slate]

Yup, dawn isn't important tho

For A ranks get changyu, wanshi, xxi, rozen, sophia

[still moat]

dazzal did u do machi yet

[pine slate]

Ur gonna be using xxi and rozen with lamia, changyu and wanshi with qu next patch

[paper bone]

wait can lightning do machi faster than fire if similar invest

[pine slate]

I'm on a trip, can't mald until Sunday

[paper bone]

grass touching noway

[still moat]

oh yea i forgot u told me u were going to dubai

[pine slate]

[paper bone]

wtf oiler

[pine slate]

I'm poor

[still moat]

we live in a society

[ashen edge]

[jaunty beacon]

We live in a sausage 😔

[sly geyser]

who are those 6734 people who saved a bad score enough to be in the 95%

[barren plank]

No, usually the case is they only do like 1 or 2 stages and then leave it
Or newbies w sht teams

[glass bay]

Dammit I need to mald early

This weekend can't mald

[sly geyser]

I see

but why deleting though?

[barren plank]

Cringe censor

Anyways how do I convince a random person to gift me BP before Wednesday I want SSS Rose

Also can I get enough coins for 12HT from scratch before Qukra patch

[sly geyser]

why not using dorm currency?

[barren plank]

I...

Burned it all already

[sly geyser]

on who ?

wata ?

[barren plank]

Scire

I already have Wata Infinitas if ur worried

But now I gotta worry ab Qu and Balter

[sly geyser]

scire is mostly qte bot now

why infinitas?

[barren plank]

Idk 😭

I asked Kurai to rate my account and he said no Scire infinitas bad so I HTed her

[sly geyser]

helper misinfo?

[floral plover]

No infinitas on the qte bot smh

[snow tapir]

Watanbe, Sophia, Nanami right?

[barren plank]

I mean ig it's not the end of the world it's not like I spent BC or anything ig

[turbid bridge]

[mighty tusk]

Infinitas for red as gap closer?

[sly geyser]

I guess... she might be useful on wz

but I play solo lamia so idk

[barren plank]

Yea I mainly did it cuz she hits like a pool noodle in WZ

[sly geyser]

[snow tapir]

What about this one? From lv 50 rewards he's kinda different than normal characters and also weak

[turbid bridge]

Even with HT she still hits like a noodle

[sly geyser]

bro was lazy?

[valid moss]

watanabe, Lee hyperreal and Liv Empyrea

[sly geyser]

yeah tru

[turbid bridge]

I just like to open all the stages by suiciding then malding on weekend

[sly geyser]

that's why she's relegated to qte bot in my end

[sly geyser]

oh I see ur doing it for the BCs

not so dumb actually

[turbid bridge]

Easier to decide how to split my AP after trying out different teams for different boss

[snow tapir]

Let's keep it f2p, I won't have those for sometime

[turbid bridge]

Because my invest is skewed

[empty cargo]

Is there a bianca memory list yet

[turbid bridge]

Pretty much useless outside of uniframe content, and as new joiner I’d suggest not wasting any resources on him

[valid moss]

hmm, well decent only for vanguard team (dont mix him with omiframe units, it will not work out good.)

[valid moss]

ok try Watanabe, Lee palefire and Silverfang

[sly geyser]

wdym ?

like u want more than one build for her ?

[distant wren]

aether would like a word

[rocky wedge]

there is more then one build for her

[empty cargo]

List for Bianca memory sets for next patch for the memory rework

[zenith thorn]

insert aether balter pasta

[ripe stag]

More is an understatement to how many builds Balter has

[rocky wedge]

ss0 - 4 charlotte, 4 patton. ss3 & above - 4 patton, 4 cottie (keep your 4pc charlotte set)

[ripe stag]

[zenith thorn]

if >=ss3
4pat 4cottie
if not
4char 4patton

[empty cargo]

I'm ss3

[still moat]

do u know whose weather is this

After three eliminations, the ice damage is increased by 30%, which lasts for 8 seconds. It can be stacked up to 2 layers. Repeated triggering will refresh the duration.

[ripe stag]

Yea go for 4 Patton 4 Cottie from next patch

[zenith thorn]

4pat 4cot

[rocky wedge]

Qu

or wait i think that might be wanshi's

[still moat]

whats wanshi's weather

[empty cargo]

What about the other sets

[still moat]

cause this could be either lmao

[distant wren]

then switch to 4 charlotte 2 cath 2 signa on hanying

[rocky wedge]

qu had some weird one

[still moat]

eternal cold abyss sounds like qu thing ngl

[zenith thorn]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t7TXDtfZdpHQy8SZAeIMpxcSi1pheSUVgDwkhicCw6s/edit?usp=drivesdk

[ripe stag]

I have a question
The buffs for core and rearrange isn't big enough to not make you use Charlotte instead of Cottie ?

[ripe stag]

Ah yes
Qukra
The Cryo Raiden Shogun

[empty cargo]

I think the energy buff is better

[still moat]

thats cw's weather why is it showing up on ice wz

[snow tapir]

Ok

[snow tapir]

Oh that's why he's weak

[rocky wedge]

more like patton's debuff and dmg boost is better

also the patton proc dmg is pretty good

[ripe stag]

Damn.
Wait
So
After Pyroath patch, I'll have to ditch Charlotte as well ?

[zenith thorn]

don't worry
i don't too

[rocky wedge]

https://youtu.be/E3aqROchvBE?si=_9bn_R6HRKWH6nE_&t=258 i mean u can see at the end here, the proc dmg from the changed sets is pretty good

[sly geyser]

a cooking lulu short story ig

[rocky wedge]

shake proc took like 1/3 of a HP bar of a tanky bear

[zenith thorn]

could be

[distant wren]

All i know is lee has bad sense of direction and tends to get lost

[zenith thorn]

check the twitter or smth

or go to bilibili

[distant wren]

But not sure if that's the case for the joke here

[rocky wedge]

no, u use charlotte in physical wz

patton u use in true slash since charlotte doesnt buff her slash dps

[zenith thorn]

comments sayin anythin

[rocky wedge]

but i mean if u have ss0 team or dont care much about minmaxing score u could probably just use charlotte in both zones

[ripe stag]

Also
When does true slash drop ?

Hanying patch or Pyroath patch ?

[rocky wedge]

but from next patch till hanying, 4pc patton will have good impact for bianca

[paper bone]

23s hell red liv

bruh I need sss echo or harmo balter

[sly geyser]

even whel struggling

[rocky wedge]

true slash content > hanying (its just ppc boss in onslaught) then true slash wz and ion are released in lucia's patch

[hidden forum]

Ur hella cooked

[paper bone]

It could be 1rot kill if sss echo

[ripe stag]

good to know

All I care about is warzone

[still moat]

can 20

[ripe stag]

That's the only place I'm good at

[still moat]

need to trigger qte fast so its up at 18

[paper bone]

holon brb

[rocky wedge]

well something u should accept right now, is that true slash is not a big time sink with ss0 han

[paper bone]

I’ll go get a recording

[ripe stag]

I'll have SS3 Hanying on Pyroath patch

[vague nebula]

how did i get better timing than knight in chaos vs hamlet

[ripe stag]

That's literally my target rn

[rocky wedge]

since u are limited to what u can do (so far from what i've seen), ss3 hanying's diff is also insane so ss0 slash u generally try few times then dip

[ripe stag]

I see

[rocky wedge]

but ye thats still far, idk how many people in global will even handle the content properly

[ripe stag]

I mean
I doubt they'll try to even understand affix as a whole

[sly geyser]

if they don't they're cooked

[rocky wedge]

cause i mean on TW i promoted to legend with phys, slash and void and my han is ss0

[ripe stag]

I mean they'll be like "oh Ionization affix thingy is same as lightning?" And then smacks lightning team there

[sly geyser]

and watch their score dropping

why are mobs so tanky ?

[still moat]

are u decent at ts hanying rot ?

[ripe stag]

He's my god

[rocky wedge]

at ss0? probably not i only just started learning it

[ripe stag]

If I'm the God of Skill Issue

sNazz is the God of Skill

[still moat]

ss3 doesnt change the rotation much tbh

its just a bit longer cause she got more orbs

[ripe stag]

"why is my CW not doing damage at all? I thought Ionization is lightning?"

[rocky wedge]

it changes it drastically

[still moat]

how so

[rocky wedge]

well there must be something cause u don't get 600k+ score diff from doing the same thing

tho ig im basing this off SSS vids ive seen which is probably also diff

[still moat]

well ss3 hanying gives more ts stacks faster

so it gets more stacks = more damage

but the rotation doesnt change significantly its still core > blue > core > blue > basic and repeat but longer since she has more orbs to play around

[paper bone]

took less time to upload it to youtube than send it through discord

https://youtu.be/5KaTJHPGEqM?si=K4mf7UHFm260k5UX

[sly geyser]

wait Alisa is base S ?

[paper bone]

[sly geyser]

dang

[still moat]

20s is 1.5 rot

[paper bone]

I dont have thay dmg

[still moat]

3s rose though

[paper bone]

dont @ me

[still moat]

i did it with 2s rose

[sly geyser]

is there even a drastic difference between 2s and 3s rose ?

[paper bone]

99ult and full sw gauge leaves her around 7bars

[still moat]

80% vs 100% shred iirc

[paper bone]

20% def shred

thats it

[sly geyser]

so u should be fine

[still moat]

so yeah its pretty big

[paper bone]

idk how then

Aight

[sly geyser]

try to ping trs

he usually answer

[still moat]

trigger qte literally at the start > trigger qte again at 12s > trigger qte again 18s

[barren plank]

Also for this I actually did blue so that she can trigger Cap QTE

[still moat]

trs did 14

[sly geyser]

trs is whel and PPC malder

[barren plank]

Welp better to hit like a wood noodle than a pool one

[sly geyser]

I'm not surprised

[still moat]

sad i dont have my run saved

the timing is so tight i have to trigger qte frames after they are up

[still moat]

im also using rosetta start

red infinitas

alisa on red slot so u can swap to balter and instantly trigger all qtes

[paper bone]

so rose red swap balter

[digital moat]

5% physical shred toi

[paper bone]

Ph right leap

[ashen edge]

S alisa

[still moat]

the run goes something like this

[paper bone]

ohhhh

gg 6/12 ht rose

[simple sonnet]

when is pyrooath?

[verbal flint]

Is getting 6 star weapon and memory hard for f2p players

[unkempt grotto]

memory no
Weapon yes

[hidden peak]

Does receiving help during mission from someone via Support option count as Coop mission?

[hidden forum]

No fdodge?

[still moat]

no im slow

[hidden forum]

[still moat]

my fingers cant do that thing

[sly geyser]

not even 20% smh

[digital moat]

She doesnt even reach 20% at sss+ with shred reso

Just 18%

[distant wren]

just triple tap
my success rate went from 10% to 70% after trying that